Joe’s Foot/Mouth Problem * Open Thread [Video Update]
By SusanUnPC on October 3, 2008 at 11:30 AM in Joe Biden, Sarah Palin
Update: I’m adding Paul’s video clip of Frank Luntz’s “focus group” results, aired last night on Fox News following the Biden/Palin debate. (Thanks, Paul. View more of Paul’s videos here.) The voters’ reactions are fascinating, and Luntz makes an important prediction at the end of the video:
Original post: This is a riot. You’ll remember that, last night, Joe said this:
“Can I respond? Look, all you have to do is go down Union Street with me in Wilmington or go to Katie’s Restaurant or walk into Home Depot with me where I spend a lot of time and you ask anybody in there whether or not the economic and foreign policy of this administration has made them better off in the last eight years.” — Joe Biden
A Delaware newspaper blogger responded to Joe’s response.
Essentially, the headliner is this:
Closed For Many Years
Here’s the full quote:
During the debate, Joe Biden gave several Delaware shout-outs, including Wilmington’s Union Street… Maybe, I heard this wrong, or misunderstood, but I think he mentioned Katie’s restaurant…… Wilmington used to have a Katie’s restaurant – way back in the day – and it was in Little Italy, as is Union Street, but I’m almost positive Katie’s wasn’t on Union Street. And it hasn’t been Katie’s in, well, years. Maybe he said Kozy’s – as in Kozy Korner?









































Gaffe Machine Joe is back, and he said something like 14 lies.
Frank Luntz’s focus group told the story. Gigantic win for Palin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3vyXaHhEsg
Thanks for the link. I was watching this last night and was so excited at the overwhelmingly positive reaction. Go Palin!!!
I think that maybe for this years voting for Democrats we should be known as “Liberatives.”
Susan, thanks so much! Everyone needs to see this video.
Palin showed everyone exactly why the Dems and the Obama Media is so scared of her. A fantastic performance by the Alaskan governor.
Obama and Biden are not only LYING – they’re both claiming Obama never said he’d meet with hostile world leaders WITHOUT preconditions!!
And of course Obamedia gives them a pass. It’s Germany, circa 1938 all over again.
Dem debate – July 24, 2007
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/24/us/politics/24transcript.html?pagewanted=print
QUESTION: In the spirit of that type of bold leadership, would you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?
COOPER: I should also point out that Stephen is in the crowd tonight.
Senator Obama?
OBAMA: I would. And the reason is this, that the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them — which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration — is ridiculous.
(Hillary then schools Obama on his willingness to be used for propaganda purposes!)
Yea, Hooray!!!
http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx
Yea, Hooray
http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx
Hahahahahahah!!!!
That’s one of the comments.
At first I thought he meant Klondike Kate’s in Newark, DE, but that’s nowhere near Wilmington.
Someone just sent this to me and I had to pass it on. It might be old but I just saw it.
I don’t know if most of you are old enough to remember Jackie Mason but this is a great clip.
My Mom actually dated him years ago when she was a Copa girl in New York!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9DjDlN6clIo
The Ultimate Jackie Mason… one of my favorite New Yorkers.. Jackie Mason is great – Thanks for posting his latest Ultimate Jackie Mason…..
You can’t help but laugh but he speaks the truth – and I love it…. Thanks again… Looking forward to his next one after the debate last night…. Yippee! And yes I am old enough to remember Jackie Mason though not as old as many who were around from his New York beginnings…..
I just want to put this out there because yesterday an Obot had this story twisted as if it was Sarah’s gaffe and not Bidens-Sarah makes no gaffes and if she is accused, double check it. Exchange the names and you’ll have the truth…they are very desperate in Barky camp~
`quote from coulter-
“While Gov. Sarah Palin is being grilled on her position on mark-to-market accounting rules, the press can’t bother to ask Joe Biden if he could give us a ballpark estimate on when Franklin D. Roosevelt was president — or maybe take a stab at guessing the decade when televisions were first available to the public.
Being interviewed by Katie Couric on the “CBS Evening News,” Biden said: “When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened.’
For those of you who aren’t hard-core history buffs, Biden not only named the wrong president during the 1929 stock market crash, he also claimed a president who wasn’t president during the stock market crash went on TV before Americans had TVs.
Other than that, the statement holds up pretty well. At least Biden managed to avoid mentioning any “clean-cut, well spoken” Negroes he had met.”
~A Coulter
So far today we’ve had Dick Morris and Ann Coulter quoted here this morning. The other day way a Michelle Malkin lovefest.
Mavericks, you sirs are not.
Mavericks, you sirs are not.
You just gave away your idol, SIR.
Obot-my quote by coulter was to clarify and out your lies. Nice try in saying yesterday that it was Palins gaffe when it was Bidens. Upset much?
On the rare occasion that those three actually speak the truth they should be quoted.
It’s pretty pathetic when you’re candidate is so FUBAR that it takes Dick Morris, Anne Coulter and Michelle Malkin to get to the truth. Barky WhoSein is that bad.
You certainly don’t need to be a hard core history buff to know that Hoover was president during the stock market crash and that he did not do anything to help the people of this country. Hasn’t Joe Biden ever heard of a Hooverville? Both Obama and Biden really are as dumb as a box of rocks.
Yeah, you’d think that Biden, with all his 37 years of “experience” would know something about our country’s history? I mean, I didn’t get to go to all those lovely ivy league schools, yet I knew it was Hoover in 1929, I know about Hooverville, and I know there wasn’t television in 1929. Duh.
Then again, I don’t drink.
Joe spends a lot of time in Home Depot?
That is too funny!
Maybe he’s trying to hire illegals, LOL? I don’t know why else anybody would hang at Home Depot.
Maybe he’s hoping he’ll get rounded up in a deportation sweep and not have to be VP anymore?
I think he’s actually hoping some woman will ask him about his “hardware”…
I was really hoping Sarah would jump on that comment and ask him what he purchased last, how much it was and what interest he is paying on his credit card.
Look, everyone knew Biden was a goddamned idiot before the debate. What surprised me, though, was that he didn’t even RESPOND when Palin quoted Biden as saying Obama is unqualified and McCain is. My God…Biden knew it to be true and didn’t even throw out a defense.
Yes, that one kind of conveniently slipped by.
Yeah, I saw on one of the wingnut sites that Biden’s non-response to Obama as unqualified didn’t slip past the Pubbies, either. I’ll link it when I find it again. “Silence as acceptance” is what I took away from that diary.
Biden voted present on that one….
Here it is: http://www.redstate.com/diaries/spainishirish/2008/oct/03/biden-soiled-himself-when-he-accepted-obamas/
SOILED is the operative word. Thank God Hillary didn’t demean herself over that sorry son of a bitch.
From yesterdays MSM reaction to Palin it it seem that they don’t even try to hide the fact that they are all working for the Obama campaign.
Here we are in an other election where people try to install a puppet as president and the people who are involved are not even trying to hid the that fact anymore.
The obamabots don’t even know that they are working for toward something that they say they are against.
LOL! Say it aint so, Joe! I’m so in touch, blah blah, here are examples that show I am OUT of touch. LOL. Ya, and he kept talking about his neighborhood, but we all know he lives in a mansion…mansions tend to sit in mansion neighborhoods. uh…
Also, I want to share Sugar’s blog post:
BREAKING: British Ambassador Calls Obama Aloof
http://sugarnspice.typepad.com/sugar_n_spicea_meeting_pl/2008/10/breaking-britis.html
…seven-page letter from Sir Nigel Sheinwald, British Ambassador to the U.S. leaked…
You have to watch this video from Sugars post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEQz5dltmI
This along with the Children Sing Praise of Obambi is 100% pre WWII Hitler.
At least Sen. Biden didn’t WINK at the American people. What was that about? Is she a vice-presidential nominee or a dime-a-dance girl?
Sen. Clinton has never WINKED in the middle of a debate.
Also, Sarah Palin’s general overuse of the word “also” is starting to becoming annoying also.
Oh, ya, she winked. That makes her a stripper whore.
Stop being stupid!
You need to educate yourself about what a “dime-a-dance girl” was, kat.
I recommend Google.
UBM:
You need to educate YOURSELF. If you think “dime-a-dance girls” were NOT in any way connected to entertaining men for sexual gratification. Yes, some of them became actual prostitutes. You know EXACTLY what you were saying.
It’s still STUPID to think a woman winking is a dime a dance GIRL.
What’s a man when he winks?
What’s a man when he winks?
Not to be trusted.
Ya, winking is horrible. HORRIBLE. lol.. If a woman winks she is entertaining men, or MORE (wink wink), and if a man winks, he is a devious untrustworthy liar. lol…
Stupid conversation…
Sarah winks all the time. It’s her trade mark. It means nothing but snark. She’s snarky.
Snark is fine… if she wants to be Vice President of Teh Intarwebz.
Alas, she wants to be Vice President of the United States.
Oh, yes, I do prefer my President display his the vibrating cell for all to enjoy, Sweetie.
May be next time, she should (strategically) scratch her face with her middle finger or dust off her shoulders or slap her husband on his behind on a rally stage in front of millions, or fist bump with him… (just like your American Idol, Obama running for the President of the United States). Educate me if I have missed others, I am sure I have.
O gives Hillary the finger for his cult followers to see — you don’t think that is ghetto and tacky?!
Sarah was talking about her Dad who was sitting in the audience. She was winking at him. Apparently, you can’t stand those affectionate love signs. I thought it was endearing.
Wrong, Irish. I was watching the debate. She was addressing the American people, not her dad. Come with the facts… or be quiet. Thank you.
If you cough twice that means you are a jerk; if you scratch your elbow, it means you are a thief; if you sneeze in the morning, that means you are a planning a bank robbery; if you get the hiccups, you are likely a serial killer; if you smile too often, you are a cannibal; if you wink, you are either a dime a dance girl or a liar.
Relax UBM. Even though every person with a brain say how well she performed last night and how well she connected, the MSM will start walking it back to a total disaster for her by the end of the weekend.
By Monday the MSM meme will be that Palins performance was a disaster and they will fix the polls to show McCain losing another 5 points in the polls because of that wink and will be calling her the Pamela ANderson of Politics.
You don’t have to worry Under Cover Bullshitartist, your OMessiah is safe and the world still loves him and believes everything he says.
You should go out and celebrate…Obama has this election in the bag and their isn’t a single thing the MSM won’t find too objectionable or slimey to do to ensure that.
So do yourself a favor, relax, go on vacation, get a second job maybe to pay for those 500.00 contributions you send to Barry (rofl) but don’t worry. The Next president will be Barack Obama.
Ah’m lucky they raised the minimum wage. Cause lawnmowing season is over.
UBM, your a dumb ass. She did wink at her dad and your either too stupid to comprehend what you were watching or drunk. probably both and again who the hell cares.
no…you are wrong….she was winking at her father….go see the film again.
So its against the roolz if Sarah winks affectionately at her dad, but when Joe tears up mentioning his family it shows he has emotions? There go those double standards again.
She wasn’t winking at her dad, she wasn’t talking about her dad. She winked at the camera while talking about policy.
And ’twas the wink heard round the world. She has given the spoofers something else to make fun of.
And hey, you guys… no fair pointing out that Biden’s plastic surgery makes it impossible for him to wink.
again, the truth is she winked twice (three times depending on how you define wink) during the debate and once it was at her dad and again who the hell cares.
again, the truth is she winked twice (three times depending on how you define wink, what a dumb ass discussion this is) during the debate and once it was at her dad and again who the hell cares.
Joe Biden winked at Gwen Iffil.
I think UBM is sexually aroused by Sarah Palin….
At least someone in this race does not try to pretend who she is not.
Palin winked and said ‘also’ more than you like. That’s one helluva strong case you make there buddy.
Sure is, no reason to vote for McCain/Palin because she winks and says also to much, so going to vote for the pathological liar Obama instead….yea right….lol
The oborg are such rubes, so dumb they are barely upright. It’s amazing they can breathe.
“I’d um, ah, like to um, ah, note that, er, um, I think that Sarah’s er, ah, um, winking was, um, quite sweet.”
I’m Barack, um, er, Obama and, um, I, uh, er, approved this, um, message.
(Sure, use “also” too often, and you’re unfit to be Vice-President. Stammer and hem and haw and you’re ready to be Leader of the Free World.)
Need I connect the dots for you, hadenough? Sarah Palin behaves in a manner ill-suited to the dignity of high office (winking and flirting during business hours).
And she speaks in “word salads,” indicating a mediocre intellect.
Everyone but pie-in-the-sky partisan Republicans realizes that she remains an unthinkable candidate for the vice presidency.
uhhhhhhhh, ummmmmm ahhhhhhhhh
also
ummmmmmm, ahmmmm, ihmmm
also
ahhhhhh
ehhhhhhh
ihhhhhhhhh
ohhhhhhhhh
uhhhhhhhh
“Flipping the bird” as Obama did is so very appropriate for a POTUS. No double-standards there. As for “a mediocre intellect”, speak for yourself. Your opinion of Sarah Palin is worthless to anybody other than yourself.
Is Teh Intarwebz in one of those 57 states Obama talks about that are not on the map. That is a fact?
pie-in-the-sky? UBM; You couldn’t connect the dots if they were the pimples on your face.
mmm A manner ill suited for high office?
BO owns that in spades. OWN YOUR CANDIDATE.
In “spades,” huh? Okay… mm-hmm…
I thought that would be what you focused on, since you seem pre-occupied with the race card.
Sucker.
You like Clubs or Diamonds or Hearts? Did you know that BO plays poker with criminals?
Did you here that Jay-Z is doing gig’s for Obama in Florida? You know the 99 and th Bitch is not one of them in reference to Senator Clinton?
So, you think Obama was totally presidential when he flipped off Hillary? His wife calls him her baby daddy?
Keep it Klazzy.
lol
Geez, you’re just not getting any, UBM.
“Sarah Palin behaves in a manner ill-suited to the dignity of high office…” UBM
You are joking right? You forget Obama and his sly middle finger to Hillary, and brushing his shoulders off? Telling a woman reporter that it’s his cell phone vibrating on her…didn’t want her to think he was getting fresh–heh heh. Or how about him twirling around on his plane so all the woman reporters could see how his ass looks in jeans?
Gimme a break. Winking vs. fake make-believe cardboard presidential seals…lol…”dignity of high office.” LOL!
I really can not access the intelligence of any of the candidates… but their character is easier to detect.
Based on actions, track records, associations and words, I have determined that Obama lacks the moral and ethical standards to be CiC.
Everyone but high on koolaid Obamacrats realizes Obama is an unthinkable candidate for the presidency.
rev wright? Talk about unthinkable. The Precious not only sat in that hate filled church for 20 years but brought his children there.
And you really should take some time to look through biden’s record. Is that really change you can hope in?
How could you tell if Biden was winking or not, with so much egg on his face last night and so many lies to keep organized, he was too busy to do much of anything towards the American people except cry.
And had Biden not lied flat out so many times last night, especially over the restaurant visits and the bold one on Afganistan, then sincerity could be considered in his tear shedding, but as Jesse Jackson Jr stated of Hillary in NH, phoney and needs to be looked into the sincerity of those tears!
Boo Hoo Biden!
He couldn’t wink if he had wanted to with the skin around his eyes stretched so tight. Could be why he cried as well, his tear ducts were undergoing extreme stress.
B. Hussein Obama ass sniffers became annoying a long time ago also.
Also, Sarah connects with people. Normal people feel that connection and don’t think twice about a wink. Stuck up, stodgy, antisocial, emotionless weirdos are the only ones would find a wink offensive……ALSO.
That’s right Hillary didn’t blink, she kept her eyes closed. Hopefully, she will open her eyes and acknowledge what BO is all about.
Good one Hank.
Hillary knows what Obama is all about during the primary. Then when she accepted defeat, she closed her eyes and endorsed Obama. Since then, she kept her eyes close.
Hope she opens it again for the sake of the country.
That will happen when O loses the eletion, and she is no longer financially enslaved by the Party that dissed her. Then she will be able to clean out some of the deadwood.
Let’s be real. She has been on the national stage five weeks, whereas Biden has been running for president the last 20, and McCain as long, and Obama has had over a year to work out rough edges. She is not Washington, which is the point, but you know if she had as much time as the others to “prepare” she’d be as sensational as her early efforts indicate she really is at heart.
People are looking at her for the “seed” or “promise” of her. She’s the youngest of the bunch, remember, only 42. There’s a lot of promise there as well as good enough substance already.
I concur…She beat OBiden and how long has OBiden been doing this. And look all the lies he said. The best moment for me was on Afghanistan, when OBiden had to admit what Palin said was true and not what he had just said about the highest ranking General in Afghanistan.
Yes, and I loved how the VP on the Hopey-Changey party ended the night with the declaration that he would not change after all those decades in office.
Cognative Disconnect, any of you Obots! (That is assuming you have any cognative functions.)
UBM: had you been paying attention to Palin rather than be obsessed with any errors she might make, you would have seen she winked at her Dad when she was talking about him being a teacher. What a jerk.
She winked at her father MORON!
Her dad is her biggest mentor. She is who she is because of her dad. She was not taught to be weak or unimportant because she’s a female. Her dad really supported his kids without gender bias. That’s the way it used to be in larger families. Everyone had to pitch in and there were no gender roles.
What do you call Obama assslaping his wife on national TV? The Wright Bump&Grind Part Deux?
Suck it up pissant.
or french kissing biden’s wife, huh sweetie!
Ooooooooh! That was gross! Thanks for the reminder!
If my choice is between “also” and “uh,uh,aaaand”, I’ll take also every time.
At least she didn’t LEER with those overly-capped big teeth during the whole debate – ole Joe looked like The Joker on steroids.
and he had his hands ALL over Palin’s daughter…yuk!
Didn’t see anything wrong with that…let’s not get perverted like the Obats.
I trust a winking Pallin over a hoodwinked Obama any day.
On Palin and Dime a Dance Girls:
Comparing Sarah Palin to Joe Biden is like comparing a Girl Scout to a prostitute. Everybody knows that a beat up old whore ain’t gonna sell no damn cookies, but (s)he’ll make more money, though!
But we expect that, don’t we?
This debate may have been characterized as a draw by the ‘in the tank for Obama’ media, but it totally destroyed the MSM’s characterization of Sara Palin. Despite Biden’s eloquence and passionate speaking style and the MSM’s accusations that she has ‘no real experience’, Palin can definitely hold her own against an old pro without working up a sweat. I wonder if Biden thinks he underestimated Sarah Palin?
The most important thing this debate showed us is that the ‘heartbeat away’ sound byte off the table for good.
Sarah Palin demonstrated that she can stand up against one of Congress’s favorite sons and hold her own; and proved further that she can stand up to Congress itself and bring the reform we’ve been lacking there.
Way to go, Sarah. I now totally believe in you
if that is your only objection and her frequent use of the word “also” your being a bit nit picky don’t you think? Let go of Hillary and move on.
wow, you must know a lot about “dime-a-dance-girl”, lap-dance, winking, wanking, etc. Circles I move in don’t know about winking meaning wanking.
For us, winking is like a thumbs up.
You’re so much better at this than I am
She was winking at her father who was in the audience. The subject was drilling for oil in Alaska. A big topic up there.
Watching the house bailout debate on c-span.
Farmers can’t buy seed!
The elderly will lose their pensions!
Where have they been? The price of oil has been killer farmers for a couple of years now and corps have been raiding pensions for years. Why can’t supporters of giving $700 billion taxpayer dollars to failed corporate chieftains and billionaires make a reasonable case for doing so?
is the media going to make an issue over Biden’s tearful moment? Just before the election? LIke they did when Hillary was sincerely tearful in New Hampshire, and she was attacked as if showing weakness, yet no none is attacking Biden? Of course not, that would make the Obama/biden ticket look weak.
The contrast was strking: Palin- strong, confident, poised woman; Biden — seasoned politicain, yet weak, flustered, tired, and TEARFUL. Some say that was a good moment for him, so you see the double standard. HIllary cries; she is a weak woman, Biden cries, then he is sincere.
Biden is weak. Too bad, can he handle a crisis with the strength and poise of McCain and Palin? Doubt it.
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I’m pretty sure he did say Katie’s. He just proved how out of touch he is with his own neighborhood. If he’d been there, visiting with constituents and living the kind of life that would identify with the rest of ours, he would know the restaraunt had been closed for years. Most likely he hasn’t been in that neighborhood for a very long time. The man’s worst enemy is himself.
Also, WTF was up with his eyes last night? Limbaugh just said he looked like a Klingon. LOL!
I wondered that myself. Maybe I never noticed that before, but they were pulled really back – looked like he was in a wind tunnel.
a plastic surgeon said biden had his forehead “done” but not the side temples, which could still be seen wrinkling up…
my husband thought biden looked like greta van sustern’s older brother!
There were some YouTube clips circulating where Biden was totally drunk (the Villages).
They were trying to get the puffy eyes covered, God knows how.
Beginning to think that Biden had a little fossil to fossil chat with Pelositysauras and complimented her on her eyes being stuck in the shock and awe mode. She probably (with his advancing age) referred him to her paleontologist for a little work.
lol @ paleontologist
She’s certifiable. She called Barney Frank the Maestro of this fantabulous bill that she no doubt thinks will save her planet.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/10/and_now_the_mother_of_all_bide.html
Thank You for that link.
I have totally missed this comment yesterday, but even if I had heard it, I guess I would not know what he was talking about.
This sounds, written down, very much like George W, not like an experienced foreign policy expert.
Since I was not familiar with the details of the Hezbollah/Lebanon/Syria thing, I did not know he was lying too.
What a creep, what a double standard.
They are saying Gouvenor Palin got the name of the miitary guy in Afghanistan wrong (Mc-something).
Shocking!
He is pouring out stuff, a gaffe a sentence, nobody notices.
Thanks mimi, odd isn’t it? If on one hand a person thinks Biden has all these qualifications and internatioanl expertise and on the other he says that…he either is not all that “wordly” or he is knowingly telling a lie.
Gaffing this is not.
Thank you for the link. I was scratching my head at that one…I knew that Hezbollah was still very much in contol of Southern Lebanon and had not been kicked out of anywhere.
I think Joe got all confused, maybe he got the PLO’s leaving Lebanon in 1982-83 mixed up with Israel’s failed war against Iranian-backed Hezbollah in the summer of ‘06? Or maybe Syria leaving? Who knows with Joe.
I thinks he’s been in Washington too long and it’s all starting to run together for him.
I didn’t get a chance to see the debate last night (I was at a previously scheduled function), but at the minimum, it certainly seems that Palin made a positive impression and has injected some life into a McCain campaign that’s been hammered by the events on Wall Street these past couple of weeks.
Now, McCain really needs to come out swinging and do two things …
1) Lay the blame for the mortgage mess squarely at the feet of Democrats like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, remining voters that he tried to pass legislation in 2005 that would have avoided this bailout while Barack Obama was busy accepting campaign cash in buckets from those who caused it.
2) Hammer home the fact that a Barack Obama victory means drastically higher taxes and drastically higher government spending.
Also, McCain can’t be aloof like he was at the last debate. He needs to engage Obama directly and aggressively challenge him. Obama does not like to be challenged directly. Also, when McCain is not looking at Obama he needs to be lookinng directly into the cameras, not at the moderator.
Duras, I respectfully disagree with #1 – People are tired of blame, although calling out Obama on the financial support he gets from Freddie/Fannie, the investment and banking industries may square things.
I agree with you on taxes. McCain needs to hammer on reform, govt spending and energy independence.
I’d like to see him emphasize his moderate positions, ie environment. And improve his proposals, ie health care and education. Biden did best last night when he listed off everything McCain has voted against.
I liked Mac’s debate answers. He had me whoop whooping. He brought it home. He knows how to handle Barky.
Why is there even a question about who to vote for? I’m just appalled. Barky and Snarky, on the BS ticket, are so old, tired and full of it. Snarky looked like he wanted to date rape Palin last night. What a perv. And the hair plugs, cruddy face lift, and Louis Vuitton trunks under his eyes, WOW. Also, did anyone catch him stroking Palin’s ARM after? WTF?
Dear God, every day I pray that you will have mercy on America, give Americans their brains back so they will vote like adults and save this great country from Barky and Snarky.
GO ‘CUDA
MCCAIN/PALIN 08
COUNTRY FIRST, PARTY SECOND
I had to work last night but when I got home I asked BF who watched debate if Biden’s woody was showing.
about katie’s restaurant. YES, Biden said Katies.
And yes Katies has been out of business for 15 years, so who is out of touch.
Also, UBM nice talking point. That is the meme from Obama HQ’s. Palin winked.
If that is your only issue then i would say she did just fine against a guy who has been in the senate for 36 years and has run for president twice.
Biden told lie after lie on stage. Maybe that is applauded by you, not most americans.
Also, as a man with a family in middle america. Obama’s tax plan will kill our country’s competitiveness around the world and destroy business.
His tax plan UBM is to give “95%” of families(fact check says it is really only 80%!) a 500 dollar check. Now, 40% of the folks that recieve this check DO NOT PAY INCOME TAXES, OR ANY TAXES FOR THAT MATTER.
Also, he says this tax “cut” will spur growth. Well we just had a round of free money given to the american poeple and it DID NOTHING.
obama’s plan to redistibute the wealth is not patriotic it is disasterous. He plans to RAISE TAXES.
Not cut them.
Also for middle america, working parents like me. McCain is going to increase the earned income credit for families to recieve 7000 instead of 3500.
That is factually the biggest tax relief in our nations history. So who is really for middle america?
The guy like mac who is going to cut taxes ACROSS the board for EVERYONE or a guy who is going to send welfare checks to poeple who do not even pay taxes and funds it off the backs of small business and succesful men and women who have good paying professions?
If mccain can articulate his ecomic plan better he can win because his plan is better for EVERY american in any class.
I just got a call from Dish network…yes we had dish on one TV for the RFD Network-Don Imus- anyway he wanted to know why I canceled my dish…so I proceeded to tell him…I left Obama out of it when I canceled it but I didn’t when they called me back, about as well be truthful…I told them I thought what Obama was doing to this country was wrong and I thought they were wrong in selling him a channel that runs in a loop, the same thing over and over…He ask me again why I canceled…I said could you not hear me he said yes but…so I repeated it all again.. then I was silent… and he said are you still there? I said yes and he hung up on me.
I bet a lot of people are dropping Dish Network….
Yea, doubt it.
You do know ANYONE can buy programming on Dish Network, right?
It would be illegal for them to refuse to sell him the time.
so what? obama is anti-american ergo subscribing to DishNetwork is anti-american;
CANCEL YOUR DISH NETWORK NOW!
Dear Leader will not let anyone watch any channel but his.
I recommend DirectTV. Their service is great – I add and drop channels over the phone and they have walked me through some problems.
My Mom & Dad get Dish and my Mom is always unhappy with the guide. Sometimes, the programming schedule does not load, sometimes it has the wrong shows at the wrong times. The programming guide with DirectV has always worked for me.
Tell them I referred you and I get $50 off my next months bill!
what the hell is wrong with the posting function.
I had to change my name to get it to work.
The trolls will be out in full affect today.
THE TROLLS ARE COMING!
THE TROLLS ARE COMING!
THE TROLLS ARE COMING!
“Farmers can’t buy seed” ferilizer or gas. They are looking to private loans from single investors to plant their winter wheat crop. WAY TO GO congress! I hate this bill. There are so many ways to handle this that doesn’t necessitate the bail out of wallstreet speculators who brought the credit market down. I don’t like the bailout of foreign banks either while middle America gets nothing! Worse yet there is still no oversight as Paulson is still going to get his grubby paws on the money and ACorn is still in the bill!
This bailout is a complete slap in the face to every american. Rather than Ceo’s taking responsiblity and cutting their pay to match the reduced profits they are experiencing, they getting congress to pay off their bad investments so they can continue making the same rediculous amount of money they make every year.
In earlier days, this would have caused a revolution. You’re tax money is going to pay someone who doesn’t represent you in government. This is treason what they are doing.
What a joke Americans are today. This is the first time I am sad to say, my country is failing miserably.
They make a million/month pay! And taxpayers are bailing them out and they’ll resume their pay. The bill was only about severance pay..
While I agree the Golden Parachutes and ridiculously high pay (wait a minute, aren’t sports figures paid like that?) seem unfair and in many cases have been just plain wrong (Raines hiding his $21 mil as 6-7 mil), I feel like it’s up to the stockholders of a company to decide that.
“Golden Parachutes” just sounds like another pandering buzzword to give us that feelgood feeling when they say they’ve eliminated them.
I feel like it’s up to the stockholders of a company to decide that.
Stock holders do not decide ceo pay. The board of directors does. 60% of most board members are ceo’s of other companies. So they decide their own pay.
And most sports figures that get giant pay get it for a good reason. lee raymond recently retired head of exxon got a $400 million good bye kiss. Raymond said he deserved it because look at fabulous profits exxon was racking up. I couldn’t figure out if Raymond was taking credit for the outrageous gas prices or something else. An individual sports figure does not get paid outragous sums just because they happen to be on a winning team. ceos rake in the bucks no matter what because they decide how much they will get paid.
I am not suggesting regulating their pay. i am suggesting that you let them fall when they become so greedy that they eat all the cake before the other one if finished baking. Get the analogy.
You guys are just talking in an echo chamber. No one in the wider media consider this a big deal. As Chuck Todd of NBC said: “This is a one day news story, we won’t even be talking about it by dinner time.” The expert consensus is that Joe Biden won the debate by a wide margin, and it’s time to move on.
Free dumb: It just speaks to you because it’s you everytime you blog here:-)
Stop the hate, racist baiter!
Hey Freedumb, still watching the National Barack Channel huh?
So which department at Home Depot were these Biden experts working in who claim he won, sanitation or the Make-Over Department?
Oh, NBC just happens to be the largest TV network. Dismiss it at your own peril.
Freedumb, don’t you practice as you preach to the girls laughing at you when you keep telling them “large is not always best, most times smallest is best”?
I dismissed it 5 years ago and been doing fine without it.
And bigger is better, eh?
Listen up, FF, you dimwit Obot: the media is not Liberal. The media is all corporate-owned, and I challenge you to name ONE (1) liberal corporation, just one, that owns any major media.
NBC as well its many offspring/offshoots is owned by General Electric, and GE doesn’t just make lightbulbs and small household appliances these days.
They’re the sixth largest corporation in the world, and a major defense contractor CONVICTED TWICE–in 1990 and 1992–of defrauding the government.
Anyone who thinks the MSM is in the tank for Obama because either the MSM OR Obama is liberal, has got shit for brains.
Mel- that was hilarious. Sanitation….Make over…Ha ha ha
Tool Town, Mel.
I swear Biden has a tatoo matching the one Obama has on his ass “Craftsman”. What tools!
So in other words, if the media isn’t talking about it, then it doesn’t matter. Does your journalism masters give you a boner too? Would you like to be locked up in a dungeon and chain to a wall while Anderson Cooper sucks your dick to speeches of Obama.
I can’t tell you on how many levels this argument is fallacious. It is one blaring call to authority.
Whom are these “experts”. Where do they rein. What is this “consensus? Whom was it conducted by? How were the results come by?
Please you are a walking text book case of a bad education.
Just head on down to HuffPo and take a quick scan of the headlines. It all negative for Palin. Palin is toast, consensus there is that it was a disaster for her. Looks like it’s time to reinstate the Palin drop out pool.
you just proved my point.
The press is going absolutely insane with this winking shit. Notice that they aren’t talking about Biden’s sighs. He sighed like 5 times that I caught. Not a word from the media about that. Instead they are talking about a winking woman. This country is disgusting to me.
Biden cried because he was exasperated and losing! He just used the 25 year old story of his “loss” as an excuse. He was really crying because he was losing and embarrassed to be up there lying for Obama. Biden cried and Palin winks at her dad as if to say “look at this weak lying shmuck”
OT and UNBELIEVABLE!
IS THIS THE POLITICS OF HOPE AND CHANGE OR THE POLITICS OF INTIMIDATION?
ON HIS OWN WEBSITE! If you want to see it click my name on this message
Continued:
And my commentary:
The OBama Campaign Engaging in the divisive and partisan politics of intimidation and boorishness.
Barack Obama – Liar, Panderer, Manipulator, and Intimidator in Chief
But then what do you expect from a guy who rose from the dirty machine of Chicago where every vote must be stolen, every opponent intimidated, and every question about your shitty record avoided and suppressed?
Maybe he can get the Obamajugend to sing about dear leader at this “peaceful” demonstration to welcome Palin.
And have his Truth Squads arrest people who say he has a funny name.
You know what?
When these leftwing nutjobs engage in violence at one of these “ObamaKrat counter-insurgency events,” this prick and his Slimebolynski intimidation tactics get exposed even more.
I Wonder what Barky would do if McCain was advocating his Glass Eyed Followers TO show up at his events and “welcome” him…oh wait, McCain doesn’t have a cult of personality full of morons who will do anything say anything disrupt anything intimidate and threaten and bully for their DEAR LEADER!
Are they calling for a riot? That is what it looks like to me…
One could get that impression, yes.
in Texas.
This will not end well.
I am sorry, I only protest $28,500.00 per plate events. Anything less is just beneath me, and I am frankly shocked you would even suggest otherwise *dusts off shoulders*.
So the free speech zones only apply to Bushco and Obamanation? If you are protesting Palin, the can march right outside the door?
When she was in Philadelphia last week they gathered across the street to protest her appearance at a local pub.
The police kept them across the street, but I’m sure if they had their druthers, they’d have rushed the place. It looked like there was about 50 protestors from the news footage.
But here’s a little “back at ya” -
I’ve seen posts on NQ about the silent majority rising this election. And I have noticed an undercurrent this election year – different from 2004. I drove by one of the local trade union halls, last week they had their front lawn festooned with all the Democratic candidates, local up to presidential.
Today there were a few signs missing: the 0bama binBiden signs. The Congressional and state senators were left alone.
Pennsylvania.Does.Not.Want.
So Obama is inciting violence?
There is a Palin event in SF- Hyatt in Burlingame. like this one and there will be “protestors” there as well.
A manner ill suited for high office?
There was a McCain event in Central Park in Johnstown PA. And the Obama Thugs were there to intimidate and threaten. The pictures in the newspaper made me see how easily these “brownshirts” can climb out of the woodwork and do their thuggery.
FBI Raids Obama Friend’s Office:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/03/fbi-raids-obama-friends-office/
I am sure this, too, will be buried by the Corrupt Media. Sigh . . .
On the other hand, The Washington Times is The Rev. Moon’s newspaper. Moon is a religious zealot and fascist, very tight with the Right Wing and, of course, VERY corrupt.
Just a small comment. She did great! Not one single gaffe, stay calm, cool and composed and looked like a real person. Not some lying and weasel like politian. She might not have all the answer now, but she is a fast learner and there is no doubt that she is an “iron lady ” and will do our country proud.
I really think she saved McCain’s butt once again. He will have to thank her when he is elected president. I hope he will give her the credit she deserves.
All money trails lead to ACORN/Obama, voter fraud registration, foreclosed illegal unsecured “mortgates for votes” that lead to the need for a $700 billion dollar bailout.
And, to top it all off, the Dems thought they’d stick it to the American taxpayers one more time, because they were so sure that the first Bailout Bill would pass. They put a clause in the first bill so that HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars would once again be funneled to ACORN.
Obama was ACORN’s lead defense attorney-he defended their criminal practices.
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/10-13-2004/0002275937&EDATE
Lawsuits against ACORN currently going on in every swing state now. WoW!
FEDERAL HOUSING ENTERPRISE REGULATORY REFORM ACT OF 2005
They are voting now…
Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright | 2008-10-03 12:04:11
OT and UNBELIEVABLE!
IS THIS THE POLITICS OF HOPE AND CHANGE OR THE POLITICS OF INTIMIDATION?
ON HIS OWN WEBSITE! If you want to see it click my name on this message
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I’m APPALLED. Just APPALLED.
And people wonder why the rest of us hate liberals, with all their cheating, lying, anger, rage and hate. How pathetic it is to be a WOMAN and see these vile B**tches pull a stunt like this. They should be shot.
OBAMA IS NOT A LIBERAL.
OBAMA IS NOT A DEMOCRAT.
THE MEDIA IS NOT LIBERAL.
And anyone who thinks he is and they are, has shit for brains.
That is so true!!!!
Marc, thank you for that article about defeating Obama & still feeling good in the morning. Myself, that would not be hard to do, but i appreciate that it is more difficult for some. I believe that this election we all are having to make some partisan concessions in order to safeguard our Capital value: the future of Liberty & democratic process in our Great nation.
As a Reagan conservative i find myself in an unprecedented place as well. I back a Republican, McCain that is more liberal than myself & dearly wishing he were running against a Democrat, HRC, who is more liberal than him. Why do i compromise? Because, that is what the nation needs right now, & i think that is what President Reagan would do right now too.
Lets consider some things here. I find it humorous that you list a number of reasons why Obama looks more like Bush than McCain. While we may take opposite sides on the virtue of those particular points, i share your disgust at Obama’s shameless lack of integrity in trying to adopt them as his own. Obama is a political doppleganger, and correct me if i’m wrong, but a doppleganger is only a shell of what it appears to be. Beneath the skin it is a monster!
I did not know McCain had promised to be a 1 term president, though it makes sense that he would be. I also appreciate that you dispel some misconceptions about Roe vs Wade. This is a radioactive issue that no 1 term administration is going to commit political suicide over, & no supreme court justice is going to risk civil upheaval for. McCain & Palin have both made it very clear that they have no intention of criminalizing abortion, regardless of their personal views on the issue. As much as Obama’s people have tried to use Palin’s conservative religious views against her, it just doesn’t stick. Both candidate’s on the Republican ticket have demonstrated a remarkably moderate, hands-off approach to matters of faith in personal choices and politics, and the Obama camp has earned serious credibility problems in such accusations.
From, a different angle, while we are discussing the politics of fear, let me point out one danger that is clear & present: unipolar extremism! We all saw how unhealthy 2000-2006 was under Bush with Republicans in majority. We are looking at this again if Obama is elected, but with Democrat majority. Would it surprise you that one-party dominance like that has nearly always proved disastrous in our nations history? Obama, together with the most hated & mistrusted congress in our nations history will not & CAN NOT bring our country together! he will inevitably polarize it more, tearing it asunder. Consider the other option. How much partisan damage can McCain do in a one term administration while checked by a Democrat majority in both houses? If anything, it behooves him to hold true to his campaign promise to work with the opposition in the interest of the American people. As a conservative, is this ideal to me? No, of course it isn’t. Problem is, i love America, and i know that i serve my conservative values better through bipartisanship than through stalwart obstructionism! On the other hand, Obama if elected will not need bipartisanship. He will not need cooperation. He can effectively get rubber stamp approval to turn his back on half the nation.
This is a year that requires Americans to set aside differences and unite! Marc has correctly pointed out that McCain is a moderate. As a Conservative or a Liberal, don’t lose sleep over voting for him next month. As a Liberal or a Conservative, you are not betraying your partisan values by doing so, you are defending them! I mean that! How so? Integrity! We keep our Nation & our democratic process intact, & survive to debate our differences 2008-2012. Now is not the time for partisan politics, now is the time to defeat Barry on November 4th!
This is the deal though. Because our Economy is soooo bad, people are looking for someone to blame.
Obama represents all that is broken with america. He represents the poor college kid, who is going to college not because they earned it, but because its a necessesity now, and they resent it subconciously.
Obama represents the angry black man, who sees his precidency as either and excuse to find hope where there is none, or a blatant excuse to get back at the “white man”
Obama represents the anarchist, whom believes that our government, for good or worse, is inheritantly evil and should be shat upon at all costs.
Lastly, Obama represents the lazy and corrupted man, whom either makes so much money, the idea of Obama is a toxic drug, or makes so little money, he believes the rich man owes it too him just because he exists in the same country with him.
Obama represents the failure of the American Dream. He is the broken of our society. Untill the economy gets better, we are all screwed, because this man will ride this wave of discontent and bad kharma all the way to the white house. The rising surge will break down every positive thing in america and lead to our destruction.
This is the classic fall of a bloated and decadant society eating itself from within.
Here is what fraudbama represents…thug thiggery
http://www.barackobamaassociates.info/
Right. We need to all come together and vote against Fraudbama and who will Fraudbama elect for the bench and who will be sleeping in the Lincoln bedroom.
http://
zachjonesishome.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/who-will-be-sleeping-in-the-lincoln-bedroom-in-an-obama-whitehouse/
http://www.barackobamaassociates.info/
The house is voting on the bailout right now.
Right and the house will not pass it as it stands now. The house members seem to be the only ones who actually read the 400+ page bill. They want to rewrite it and do other things.
One of Sarah Palin’s best moments was talking about her and Todd having no health insurance at times in their lives. Many, many people can relate and now know that she can relate.
This provides an opening, an opportunity for McCain. His current plan is not enough. Many voters do not believe Obama is capable of passing health care reform.
McCain needs to improve his plan and put it out to the American people by his next debate. Bill Clinton, during his candidacy, was always looking to improve his ideas and plans– part of what made him such an exciting candidate.
Republicans need to swallow hard and do it. Call Elizabeth Edwards for help. Improve your health care reform proposals, McCain!
Agree, he needs to paint it, breathe life into it, make it tangible. He laso needs to harp, harp, har that in light of the wallstreet meltdown, his plan is still tenable, while Obama’s massive spending project is a pipe dream in these circumstances. He needs to turn the economic troubles to his favor, because like the plan or not, it is the more realistic.
I agree. And, I don’t believe people have confidence in Obama to massively reform health care (since he has never accomplished any reform close to it in magnitude). Most people also realize huge spending on natl health care is unrealistic.
It is unlikely that McCain will offer more reform, since he voted against CHIP, etc. (Hope I got that right.) But I sure wish McCain would find other reforms that would help people who need medical care and don’t have the bucks.
http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/kmov-stlouisnews-081002-mccain-laptop-stolen.d2ec3e83.html
Someone broke into McCain office and stole a laptop.
We know how these thugs like to operate…
I am surprised ap reported it.
Sorry if this has already been posted. I just found this over at Liberland, website for the pathetic Alan Colmes. Enjoy.
Obama Motion to Dismiss Denied
Justia.com |
October 03, 2008 08:18:27 by Right Cal Gal
This just in – Obama’s Motion to Dismiss Berg’s lawsuit denied! This is the text of the Order:
PHILIP J. BERG, ESQUIRE, : Plaintiff : vs. :CIVIL ACTION NO: 08-cv- 04083 : BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, ET AL, : Defendants :
ORDER ON DEFENDANT’S, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE’S MOTION TO DISMISS PLAINTIFF’S COMPLAINT PURSUANT TO RULE 12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6)
THIS CAUSE came before the United States District Court Judge, Honorable R. Barclay Surrick on Defendant’s Barack Hussein Obama and the Democratic National Committee’s Motion to Dismiss. Having reviewed the Motion and Plaintiff’s Opposition to said Motion and for good cause shown, it is hereby ORDERED that the Motion to Dismiss pursuant to F.R.C.P. 12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6) is DENIED.
It is further ORDER of this Court that the following discovery is to be turned over to Plaintiff within three (3) days:
1. Obama’s “vault” version (certified copy of his “original” long version) Birth Certificate; and 2. A certified copy of Obama’s Certification of Citizenship; 3. A Certified copy of Obama’s Oath of Allegiance.
IT IS SO ORDERED
Is the order signed on this one, or just a copy of Berg’s filing again?
Had to go that way. What else could the court do? determine that Article II is just a suggestion not a requirement? Now it gets interesting. Don’t expect any smoking guns. What should be in place is a “board” of top document experts to examine anything that is produced for authenticity. I’m surprised that Berg isn’t seeking record copies directly from the state of Hawaii.
no, no, no. Not true.
ALWAYS check Berg’s own website for the latest due to tons of internet rumors:
http://www.obamacrimes.com/
It isn’t on Berg’s site so I think you are repeating the rumor that has been going around. Berg is waiting for that ruling – unless it has come in today Friday, october 3 and he hasn’t posted it on his site yet.
FF, you put so much stock in the MSNBC. gimme a break. That is obama headquarters and the biggest propaganda outfit in the nation. These same geniuses said palin was a know-nothing.
You called CNN professionals when they have Roland Martin doing the post debate analysis. You are such a stooge. Joe Biden could not have won by any objectionable analysis. He lied over and over about big points. BUT, i guess if you live and die by MSNBC and the likes of Roland Martin Keith Olbermann and Chris”obama makes me horny”Mathews you think lying on national tv is great strategy.
These idiots do not even point out that he lied.
If it was a misstatement fine. Bidens were full fledge lies. He tryed to be scholarly about the constitution and got the article wrong. He said Mccain opposed things he did not oppose.
He blatantly lied about obama saying he would meet with dictators. He was a gas bag and put poeple to sleep.
Go watch Rachel Maddow or something. Your a complete loon.
What is even funnier is you said how good she did last night.
OH, and Biden LIED about his war vote. The same vote YOU hammered Clinton for over and over. How can obama rely on Joe when in obama’s own words he was WRONG.
Biden called Bosnians, bosniacs. He named a store that has been out of business for 15 years. He lied completely about 3 weeks in Iraq being the same amount of money in afganistan. And i could go on and on. There were more lies.
Look if your guy wins, it is not because he is a better candidate. It is because he and his campaign were better liars and duped americans into believing things that are not true.
I said I thought it was a tie last night, and that Palin came across articulate. But after reading and watching more indepth analyses from CNN, and HuffPo, I was convinced that Biden had won. Apparently the majority of Americans who voted at the various news sites agreed as well.
obviously u can’t make up your mind
cnn and huffy puffy
now that’s critical thinking
Been sniffing the Huffington Koolaid, haven’t you? And to think it took a nasty liberal magazine for you to see the light. I think that light is darkness that you are seeing, child.
BS you were convinced Biden had won when they first agreed to a debate date. LOL!
Use your own brain and your own powers of judgement to make your decisions. You are the PRIME example of what is going on with the obamasession we’re seeing. Sheep are allowing themselves to be told who to support, who to vote for, what to think and what to do. You’re a sheep FF, chew on that for a while.
FF you have to be TOLD who won? YOU can’t make up your own mind?
NOPE; for you once the kool-aid runs out you have to re-up? Quit slagin k?
Who thinks that if social welfare/affirmative action cloaked as mortgages “works” (meaning we pay), that another wave is coming in the form of a consumer credit bailout? Clue: there are a lot of people out there who have been living on a series of max’d out credit cards for years. Many are the same people who were given mortgages they couldn’t possibly afford. When that bubble breaks the threat to the economy will be even bigger. And again our brave congress will jump in and save us from ourselves with our money.
Unrelenting Bowel Movement sounds scared.
Donkey Brazziere, that what happens with all that hate.
TGIF; Donkey: We can stay up late, swapping manly stories, and in the morning, I’m making waffles!
UBM do they really PAY you for this crap?
4 minutes left out 15 minute vote in the bialout vote and about half the hosue has not voted yet.
How’s McCain/Palin doing in the polls?
Any changes from the debate may be reflected in polls tomorrow.
Look at the polling data, you will find they are skewed to favor Obama.
I am waiting for the real poll, Nov. 4.
I keep forgetting… you don’t believe in math.
It’s too sciency – WITCHCRAFT!!! You are using numbers- WITCHCRAFT!!!
oh and also, the ratings for last nights debate were 30% higher than fridays between Mac and O.
Meaning, more folks were interested in sarah. And she handled Biden. The fact is, Biden has been debating for the past 36 years in the senate on these issue and ran for prez twice.
She more than held her own and Biden was playing loose with the truth on almost every answer he gave.
The left shouldn’t have tried to make Palin look like a dimwit. Honestly, they (the left) are so snotty and insecure, they get in their own way.
The MSM has exposed themselves – people do not trust them. People believe the MSM are rooting for Obama. Now Sarah Palin has completely “faced them off” and further exposed how slanted and out-of-touch they are!
Umm, did her performance last night really change any minds? I will bet she is still Dan Quayle on the Daily Show, Letterman, Leno, and Colbert.
and that is why you are so retarded. You think america should base our politics and direction of this nation on comedians.
Now i know not to take ANYTHING you say serious at all.
You are a tortured soul and i suspect you have never fought for freedom. May god bless you. even if like half of my friends on the left do not believe in him.
Of course it did!
The wingnuts who haven’t drunk the zombie elixir were getting nervous — and now, they’re back to being satisfied!
Yeah! Sarah Palin has gone from being dropped from the ticket, back to merely being a drag on it.
But, umm…. I guess that all the wingnuts who will vote for McCain anyway will now vote for McCain with a smile on their face.
That’s a good thing, I guess.
In answer to your question: Yes.
FF – Stewart, Letterman, Leno and Colbert are the Hollywood / Manhattan echo chamber.
Because they’re celebrities they mean the world to Obots…the rest of us? Not so much.
Biden made some minor errors, but so did Palin. But the expert consensus was that Biden had won the debate. Biden was hammering McCain and Bush all night, and all Palin could do was mouth off talking points. Bob Schrum said: “She could barely keep up”.
Regardless who you think won, this debate is no longer of any interest to the media or the American people. No one will be talking about it by dinner time.
everything you just said was nothing but opinion, you do realize that.
What are these talking points? How did these talking points have any less credibility than Obiden’s talking points?
Your comment said one thing: IN MY OPINION WITHOUT ANY SPECIFIC POINTS, I GENERALLY CALL THE DEBATE FOR BIDEN.
Thats retarded dude. You just repeated what someone else said and then acted like it was the scientific conjecture. DUMB ASS.
who are you talking about?
If your going to call poeple dumb ass you may want to specify who, no?
Touchet is replying to freedum fraud.
Don’t be a dumbass Paul3triple.
My best Jim Mora impression:
Bob Shrum?? … Bob Shrum!??!… You gotta be kidding me?… Bob Shrum?!?
.
The voters in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Missouri and Ohio matter a whooooole lot more than Bob Shrum. I know for a fact in one of those states, they liked what they saw.
Bob Shrum…geez.
FF — Biden said that the US and France had kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon. This is news to many, many people in Lebanon, including Hezbollah. And foreign policy is his supposed expertise. And he’s the experienced one on the ticket.
Obama and Biden are a punchline.
Saying that France and NATO cleared Hezbollah out of Lebanon is NOT a minor error, especially from a “foreign policy” expert.
You are an embarassment to all trollkind. Go sniff glue.
the expert consensus ???
FF Please define what that is for the
non-Jihadist in the crowd. Perhaps your Wahhabist Imam proclaimed a Fatwa to this effect?
I think one wink would have been plenty and she can overdo it with the “you betchas” and “doggone it”s, but she did great. Biden looked amused at first, then rather taken. I did not like him stroking her arm!
(My first post — I’ve been lurking for weeks)
Re: Biden and the tragic death of his wife and daughter
Sen. Biden has publicly and repeatedly besmirched an innocent truckdriver over the years since his wife’s death by implying the driver was drunk and caused the fatal accident. In reality his wife crossed the center line and drove head-on into the truck. So Everyone Else, please forgive any of us who fail to be as touched as you are by Sen. Biden’s tears.
Yes he lies about this on the stump and no one calls him on it…oh and welcome!
Patience, Salutations. Hope you you delurk and post more.
freedom Fighter why not respond to me?
FF, you put so much stock in MSNBC. gimme a break. That is obama headquarters and the biggest propaganda outfit in the nation. These same geniuses said palin was a know-nothing.
You called CNN professionals when they have Roland Martin doing the post debate analysis along with Jeffrey Toobin who is a legal analyst and has nothing to do with politics or Paul Begala a guy who is clearly on obama’s side. You are such a stooge. Joe Biden could not have won by any objectionable analysis. He lied over and over about big points. BUT, i guess if you live and die by MSNBC and the likes of Roland Martin Keith Olbermann and Chris”obama makes me horny”Mathews you think lying on national tv is great strategy.
These idiots do not even point out that he lied.
If it was a misstatement fine. Bidens were full fledge lies. He tryed to be scholarly about the constitution and got the article wrong. He said Mccain opposed things he did not oppose.
He blatantly lied about obama saying he would meet with dictators. He was a gas bag and put poeple to sleep.
Go watch Rachel Maddow or something. Your a complete loon.
What is even funnier is you said how good she did last night.
OH, and Biden LIED about his war vote. The same vote YOU hammered Clinton for over and over. How can obama rely on Joe when in obama’s own words he was WRONG.
Biden called Bosnians, bosniacs. He named a store that has been out of business for 15 years. He lied completely about 3 weeks in Iraq being the same amount of money in afganistan. And i could go on and on. There were more lies.
Look if your guy wins, it is not because he is a better candidate. It is because he and his campaign were better liars and duped americans into believing things that are not true.
You know why all the trees in Kansas lean to the East?
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It’s because of how much MSNBC sucks.
lol
It passed.
Yup. Just needed a little more pork to grease the skids.
Pandering bunch of crap.
The stock market is diving.
The woman stood up in front of the nation and spoke like a Vice President. As soon as the debate was over Chris Matthew and his minions Andrea Mitchell were running their mouths with envy. Chris’s face looked like a deer hit by the headlights of a car. He was uncomfortable everytime he had to admit she was good. Even the other clown that normally puts in two cents in had to admit that the Lady was Fine! The CNN and their black cacaus members and the wicked witch of the east couldn’t wait to start chewing Palin’s bones. Unfortunately, the American people ALL SAW THE RESULTS
She was wonderful and we all know it…let the media lie…people can still think for themselves, well most can…I hope they will be offended by the liars and change to Fox like Hillary supporters did.
If this bill passes, you need to watch the market. The second that stocks get high enough to make back the money most people put into them, they will sell and the market will crash. Thats what this bill is, a last ditch effort for those people to bail out and run.
They can’t do it know because they would take a loss.
Thats what a bail out is people: Its a way out, not a way to proceed. DUH!
Did the Acorn pork get put back in. If it did, its over, Obama won.
20% of $700,000,000,000 which is what Dodd wanted to begin with for ACORN, IE $120,000,000,000 would buy the White House for the dems for years to come. Bunch of crooks.
How about the Senate Bill 2433-the Global Poverty Act of which Obama is a sponsor. Eight Hundred and Fifty Six Billion Dollars–$856,000,000,000– over a period of seven years. With $27,000,000,000 going to Kenya where Obama’s cousin, Odinga, is co-ruling with another man in their presidential sharing arrangement. I mean like it’s the end of the world because of this $700,000,000,000 bail out going on in our own country but no one seems to mind spending $856 billion mostly on Africa. Where is our representation?
The DOW is dropping since the voting started.
Why on earth should we give
$700$850 billion of our tax dollars to Wall Street?Why was 150B tacked onto the top? Isn’t that the figure amount they wanted to give ACORN? We have a Democrat party that can be renamed Kleptocrats.
in-depth from cnn and huffpo? oh god your hopeless.
Are you really that lost that you need them to shape your opinion and tell you how to think.
I feel sorry for you.
Like huffpo would be fair to begin with. They are the same site posting lies about sarah palin and NEVER mentioning all of the ignorant and dumb things your team says or calls out the lies.
They lie along with them and encourage it.
That is what is saddest, poeple like you are brainwashed and do not care if the guy they want to lead us is constantly lying about everything.
If biden told the truth i would say he had more substance. But his substance was based on falsehoods. Also, his thing about SCOTUS was horrible. He said who cares about their accomplishments we have to go after their ideology.
I also bet you were on of the same poeple making fun of clinton for getting choked or the bosnia sniper fire.
BUT, Joe does and says the same stuff no problem. You like liars. Bold faced liars. That is sad. We should expect more from our leadership.
I am glad you are so happy you have candidate that is winning the battle of percpetion, not by his deeds or the truth of his words. But because the media is an extended arm to your campaign. That is sad.
I pray for america everynight because of poeple like Freedom Fighter. He does not care who is right or who is honest or trustworthy. He just cares about his side. even though they are lying scum bags and have the media running around for them like all day infomercials. america has truly lost its way and i hope we can found it real soon.
It’s offensive that Biden’s ignorance is always passed off as mere “gaffes” — yet another glaring example of double standards. Oh yeah, he’s just jolly old Joe putting his foot in his mouth again…
To me, the man seems like a serious drunk and could benefit from a good detox program. In fact, should Obama win, I think this is requisite — for the safety and security of our nation.
And thanks for the welcome 30yrdem-notanymore!
We always need new fighters…ignore the trolls.
You have to wonder how Katy Coric is feeling today, being used as a pawn by the GOP the past couple of days as they provided an image of Palin as weak and unknowning, to off-track Bidne for last nights debates!
So Katy you want to play in the all boys club, making you the easy target to be used and used you were!
She was no pawn…she edited her interviews just like Charlie…we got to see Palin with no edits and she is what America needs in Washington.
is Katie Couric the blond one?!
BTW I saw the clip twice of Biden talking about the restaurant and he said Katie’s.
Hangs out in Home Depot…omg…talk about reaching…lol.
Vote on controversial $700-billion legislation to rescue financial system passes 263-171
Congratulations, Sarah. You won last night’s debate.
Joe? Good old Joe, take another shot of tequila. You are gonna need it.
Noquarter:
Can we get a blog about the Educate the Idiots campaign?
A leaked memo from top-ranking Coloroado Democrats said that “minorities, GED’s, drop-outs” are idiots that need to be educated.
Colorado
I saw that , was it from2006 elections…still calling people idiots now matter what year it was.
Us Idiots don’t listen to dem lies anymore.
I have a degree in Molecular Biology. I don’t consider myself an idiot.
Infact, a truely intellegent and NORMAL person doesn’t consider himself above anything.
To call someone less intellegent and then discount any sound arguments they may have on that basis is nothing but ad homenien. You would know this if you were truely intellegent.
Instead it is my hypothesis that you are actually NOT a real educated person, but rather someone whom believes that educated people ONLY vote for Obama. This makes you feel smarter than you are. It is called feeding the ego. Its a classic political tatic used to sway, well, idiots, lol.
LAST NIGHTS DEBATE IS SET FOR BREAKING ALL RECORDS.
October 03, 2008
Huge early ratings for Palin-Biden debate
UPDATED: Thursday’s highly anticipated face-off between Alaska governor Sarah Palin and Delaware senator Joe Biden may be the most-watched debate in 16 years.
Last night’s event totaled a 45.0 overnight meter-market household rating, according to Nielsen Media Research.
That’s 42% higher than Friday’s presidential debate between top-of-the-ticket contenders John McCain and Barack Obama, which scored a collective 31.6 rating among broadcast and cable networks.
It’s also a stunning 60% higher than the 2004 debate between Dick Cheney and John Edwards. In fact, the early figure surpasses any presidential debate since 1992’s second bout between Bill Clinton, Ross Perot and George Bush (which received a 46.3 rating).
The measurement will likely decrease slightly when Nielsen releases total national viewers later today. If the rating stays above 43.6, it will mean Thursday night was the highest-rated vp debate in TV history, surpassing 1984’s most-watched record holder between George Bush and Geraldine Ferrarro.
Thursday’s match was expected to potentially overthrow Friday’s presidential debate in viewers due to questions about Palin’s readiness and because the vp match was held on a Thursday, the most-watched night of the week. The audience response puts the election back onto the familiar historic and record-breaking ratings territory that characterized the convention coverage.
http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/10/vp-debate-ratin.html
Thursday’s match was expected to potentially overthrow Friday’s presidential debate in viewers due to questions about Palin’s readiness
Prolly all tuning in to hear joe talk about his family tragedy for ten thousandth time.
The ‘questions about Palin’s readiness’ was a “liberal media” created narrative. Palin bested obiden. So how did that work out for the “liberal media” ?
Obama’s goose steppers KNOW Sarah Palin kicked Biden’s ass last night….like everything else, they have not an objective bone in their body. When they rely on skewered polls, registering homeless people to vote, filling out illegal registrations, and getting their info from comedians, their knowledge base will not be expansive. They’re a bunch of satanic kooks.
in-depth from cnn and huffpo? oh god your hopeless.
Are you really that lost that you need them to shape your opinion and tell you how to think.
I feel sorry for you.
Like huffpo would be fair to begin with. They are the same site posting lies about sarah palin and NEVER mentioning all of the ignorant and dumb things your team says or calls out the lies.
They lie along with them and encourage it.
That is what is saddest, poeple like you are brainwashed and do not care if the guy they want to lead us is constantly lying about everything.
If biden told the truth i would say he had more substance. But his substance was based on falsehoods. Also, his thing about SCOTUS was horrible. He said who cares about their accomplishments we have to go after their ideology.
I also bet you were on of the same poeple making fun of clinton for getting choked or the bosnia sniper fire.
BUT, Joe does and says the same stuff no problem. You like liars. Bold faced liars. That is sad. We should expect more from our leadership.
I am glad you are so happy you have candidate that is winning the battle of percpetion, not by his deeds or the truth of his words. But because the media is an extended arm to your campaign. That is sad.
I pray for america everynight because of poeple like Freedom Fighter. He does not care who is right or who is honest or trustworthy. He just cares about his side. even though they are lying scum bags and have the media running around for them like all day infomercials. america has truly lost its way and i hope we can found it real soon.
Stand Up For Chuck!
Two buck?
It’s three buck chuck now.
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The Democrats nominated Porky Pig for POTUS
My thirteen year old walked into the room as Palin was giving her closing speech. Now mind you this is a teen that rolls his eyes at everything to do with politics. He was talking to me and stopped mid sentence and turned to the television to watch the rest of what Palin had to say. When she finished, he said “that was good stuff. I felt like she was talking directly to me, and I liked what she was saying. She sounded great.”
Now the fact that even a 13 year old could see her charisma and hear her message speaks volumes of her style. (And don’t bring it down to “she talks like a teenager and has the intellect of one”), the point is that she has the ability to engage people on many different levels. That is an invaluable skill sorely needed in politics today.
YouTube Pulls Obama Spot
NBC blasts clip as ‘outrageous’ and demands Obama camp cease running it altogether
http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/news/agency/e3i226441afd9c0206f7226b8d4daf82e2a
NBC is in the tank for Obama it is possible that Tom Brokaw had something to do with it.
BTW: there is no registration needed, you can leave a comment there. I just did.
Wow…
I think its safe to say that Sarah Palin tingles more legs than Obambi.
Sorry Chris Matthews, you are just not Normal.
I thought Bin Biden was going to have an anuerism right there on the stage.
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The Senate is run by and for millionaires…hopefully the House will shoot the bill down and demand they go back to the drawing board.
They didn’t.
It’s a good bill.
where is that troll, UBM? She is winking at her dad, the school teacher when talking about education.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhaGY6SZ39o
where is that troll, UBM? She is winking at her dad, the school teacher when talking about education.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhaGY6SZ39o
Bin Biden is a cry baby! Whoooo. Get over it Bin Biden! Damned cry baby. What’s with the New Dem ticket? It’s the cry baby ticket. Get out the bibs!
Gee, Bib Bidens forehead looked like it was double the size of normal. And he has beady little fish eyes like Fraudbama does. Beady eyes indicate a lack of future vision and understanding. LOL
Large, bright eyes indicates a genius who understands past, present and future. = Palin
I liked Sarah Palin from the day she was “announced” – but she exceeded even my expectations. She was on point, she was moving at 100 MPH while Joe was trying to keep up (if anyone was sticking to “talking points” it was Biden), she is informed, and has the instincts to lead. Some have cricized her for “patriotic” answers. This is what the Left is reduced to – patriotism is a bad thing. Except when they want to use “support the troops” to fool people. Palin owned that debate: she was Reaganesque in her presentation. She spoke past the media directly to the people. If McCain-Palin don’t win in 2008, I am eager to support Sarah ini 2012. As the Presidential candidate.
Meanwhile, Hezbollah party members in Beirut are stunned by the Biden announcement that they have been ousted from Lebanon. As one Hezbollah member sardonically noted, “Wish I was here?”