Comments on: Obama/Ayers Update: New York Times Ignores Evidence of Ayers’ Role in Annenberg Board Selection http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/ Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:08:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Chuck Norton http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-847896 Chuck Norton Sun, 05 Oct 2008 03:46:35 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-847896 Great Post - I linked to you guys here --> http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/ny-times-more-palin-smears-more-covering-up-of-obamas-record/ Thanks for the great work. Great Post – I linked to you guys here –> http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/ny-times-more-palin-smears-more-covering-up-of-obamas-record/

Thanks for the great work.

]]> By: Postmaster http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-847429 Postmaster Sun, 05 Oct 2008 02:33:46 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-847429 avo....obviously you've mistaken us for someone that gives a damn what you think. avo….obviously you’ve mistaken us for someone that gives a damn what you think.

]]> By: mrkwong http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-847280 mrkwong Sun, 05 Oct 2008 01:57:17 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-847280 oh and bss - one further point. I do not know why the McCain campaign has not been putting out 'WANTED' posters with Barney Frank's picture on them. Were I in the Senator's position I'd have been naming names three weeks ago, and I'd be demanding a special prosecutor to look into FNMA's lobbying and contributions and the recipients thereof. Jesucristo, does McCain think he has to worry about chasing away black voters? As for healthcare, there is only one candidate in this race who has any personal experience with the healthcare world that the average worker or small businessperson faces. There's only one candidate in this race who does not at this point have free health insurance for life. There's only one candidate who has to consider in her future plans that her family would be absolutely uninsurable outside of a big-employer (or government) group plan. And that's Sarah Palin. For everyone else it's academic, for her it's very personal. oh and bss – one further point. I do not know why the McCain campaign has not been putting out ‘WANTED’ posters with Barney Frank’s picture on them. Were I in the Senator’s position I’d have been naming names three weeks ago, and I’d be demanding a special prosecutor to look into FNMA’s lobbying and contributions and the recipients thereof. Jesucristo, does McCain think he has to worry about chasing away black voters?

As for healthcare, there is only one candidate in this race who has any personal experience with the healthcare world that the average worker or small businessperson faces. There’s only one candidate in this race who does not at this point have free health insurance for life. There’s only one candidate who has to consider in her future plans that her family would be absolutely uninsurable outside of a big-employer (or government) group plan. And that’s Sarah Palin. For everyone else it’s academic, for her it’s very personal.

]]> By: mrkwong http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-847227 mrkwong Sun, 05 Oct 2008 01:45:09 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-847227 bss - the issue is not that Obama 'exchanged views' with Ayers. The issue is that anyone whose worldview is close enough to that of Ayers that the Weatherman would find him a useful protege probably ought not be running the country. We know enough to conclude that Obama and his campaign have lied, repeatedly, about his involvement with Ayers, that while the press strains at the gnat of Sarah Palin being able to see Russia from the state she governs they're willing to swallow the horse wherein Ayers is just a guy Obama sees in the neighborhood. So, if it's such a tiny thing, if their relationship was arm's-length, why do they feel a need to lie about it? Why will reporters spend days fraudulently editing Sarah Palin videos in an attempt to prove she was a member of AIP but fail to read even the available documents to evaluate the closeness of Ayers' relationship with Obama? If they think he's clean, what have they got to lose? The fact that Ayers is a university employee is not germane; one could argue that the problem is the mindset within the university administration that would permit his hiring in the first place, but I'll leave that one alone for now. bss – the issue is not that Obama ‘exchanged views’ with Ayers. The issue is that anyone whose worldview is close enough to that of Ayers that the Weatherman would find him a useful protege probably ought not be running the country.

We know enough to conclude that Obama and his campaign have lied, repeatedly, about his involvement with Ayers, that while the press strains at the gnat of Sarah Palin being able to see Russia from the state she governs they’re willing to swallow the horse wherein Ayers is just a guy Obama sees in the neighborhood.

So, if it’s such a tiny thing, if their relationship was arm’s-length, why do they feel a need to lie about it? Why will reporters spend days fraudulently editing Sarah Palin videos in an attempt to prove she was a member of AIP but fail to read even the available documents to evaluate the closeness of Ayers’ relationship with Obama? If they think he’s clean, what have they got to lose?

The fact that Ayers is a university employee is not germane; one could argue that the problem is the mindset within the university administration that would permit his hiring in the first place, but I’ll leave that one alone for now.

]]> By: Madison http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-847067 Madison Sun, 05 Oct 2008 01:12:21 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-847067 All In the Family The democrats and ceo Fannie mae Freddie Mac and more-Down load this on Disk and send to all…I have it on VCR - DISK -CD- ALL IN THE FAMILY And download as you see this- All In the Family http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rodIc9E1g7E All In the Family The democrats and ceo Fannie mae Freddie Mac and more-Down load this on Disk and send to all…I have it on VCR – DISK -CD- ALL IN THE FAMILY

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]]> By: bemused http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-847025 bemused Sun, 05 Oct 2008 01:04:11 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-847025 You just failed your creative writing assignment. You just failed your creative writing assignment.

]]> By: bemused http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-847017 bemused Sun, 05 Oct 2008 01:02:28 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-847017 Judy, the population of AZ in the late '70s was very small. Phoenix was correctly described as "the world's biggest small town." Everyone knew everyone, including crooks. The persons who were identified in Don Bolles murder may or may not have been connected with Kemper Marley (get the names, girl), a mover and a shaker and often suspected of not being the nicest person--but! innocent until proven guilty. It would have been impossible to be either well-connected, rich, or politically inclined in those days and not have known people like Marley or Keating, they were everywhere. And being invited to a birthday party is not exactly like being invited to be on a board of directors, hmm? You are really stretching for dirt on Mac. Judy, the population of AZ in the late ’70s was very small. Phoenix was correctly described as “the world’s biggest small town.” Everyone knew everyone, including crooks. The persons who were identified in Don Bolles murder may or may not have been connected with Kemper Marley (get the names, girl), a mover and a shaker and often suspected of not being the nicest person–but! innocent until proven guilty. It would have been impossible to be either well-connected, rich, or politically inclined in those days and not have known people like Marley or Keating, they were everywhere. And being invited to a birthday party is not exactly like being invited to be on a board of directors, hmm? You are really stretching for dirt on Mac.

]]> By: Goblintrain http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-846797 Goblintrain Sun, 05 Oct 2008 00:10:02 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-846797 You can put lipstick on an Obamatroll... But its STILL an Obamatroll! Nice try kid! ; ) You can put lipstick on an Obamatroll…

But its STILL an Obamatroll!

Nice try kid! ; )

]]> By: ReginaldL http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-846740 ReginaldL Sun, 05 Oct 2008 00:01:50 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-846740 Axelrod-inspired astroturfing at no quarter? You bet'cha! Axelrod-inspired astroturfing at no quarter? You bet’cha!

]]> By: bss http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-844988 bss Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:06:58 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-844988 No one has answered my question: Can the argument be made effectively to voters that "exchanging ideas" with Ayres disqualifies one for public office? If so, how do you rectify that with the fact that Ayres is a government employee whose salary is paid in part by Illinois taxpayers and whose job is with a public institution? And that Ayres is employed by the U of I, and has been for years, expressly to "exchange ideas" as a public university professor? And more importantly: Why has Ayres'/Obama link not resonated with voters so far, and can McCain really make it more important to voters than current-day issues like the economy and the health-care crisis? No one has answered my question:

Can the argument be made effectively to voters that “exchanging ideas” with Ayres disqualifies one for public office? If so, how do you rectify that with the fact that Ayres is a government employee whose salary is paid in part by Illinois taxpayers and whose job is with a public institution? And that Ayres is employed by the U of I, and has been for years, expressly to “exchange ideas” as a public university professor?

And more importantly: Why has Ayres’/Obama link not resonated with voters so far, and can McCain really make it more important to voters than current-day issues like the economy and the health-care crisis?

]]> By: On the mark http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-844973 On the mark Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:04:30 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-844973 Perhaps they are aware that while Obama was completing his degree at Columbia in 1982-83, Bill Ayers was attending Bank Street College from which he graduated with a Masters in Early Childhood Education in 1984? Ayers then attended Columbia until until 1987. Bank Street College is less than a quarter of a mile from Columbia, and they collaborate on courses. We know, from his own writings, that Obama “was drawn to foreign students, Marxist professors, and punk poets”. One such professor was Edward Said, who was also an associate of Bill Ayers. It is inconceivable, given their concentric politics, and Ayers’ penchant for recruiting black radicals, that they did not meet in the two years they were studying within a quarter mile of each other. Is this why Obama won’t release his transcript from Columbia? Does it reveal a tie to Ayers? Were they classmates? Did they perhaps even live together or close to each other? If this theory is correct then an awful lot of other dots fall into place. Where did Obama go on graduation? Not home to Hawaii - he went to ……..Chicago! Where did he meet his wife? At a job with a law firm where Bernadine Dorhn worked and Bill Ayers’ father had influence. How did he insert himself into the Chicago political structure so easily? As Kurtz asks “who sent him”? Perhaps they are aware that while Obama was completing his degree at Columbia in 1982-83, Bill Ayers was attending Bank Street College from which he graduated with a Masters in Early Childhood Education in 1984? Ayers then attended Columbia until until 1987.
Bank Street College is less than a quarter of a mile from Columbia, and they collaborate on courses.
We know, from his own writings, that Obama “was drawn to foreign students, Marxist professors, and punk poets”. One such professor was Edward Said, who was also an associate of Bill Ayers.
It is inconceivable, given their concentric politics, and Ayers’ penchant for recruiting black radicals, that they did not meet in the two years they were studying within a quarter mile of each other.
Is this why Obama won’t release his transcript from Columbia? Does it reveal a tie to Ayers? Were they classmates? Did they perhaps even live together or close to each other?
If this theory is correct then an awful lot of other dots fall into place.
Where did Obama go on graduation? Not home to Hawaii – he went to ……..Chicago!
Where did he meet his wife? At a job with a law firm where Bernadine Dorhn worked and Bill Ayers’ father had influence.
How did he insert himself into the Chicago political structure so easily? As Kurtz asks “who sent him”?

]]> By: Judy in Arizona http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-844970 Judy in Arizona Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:04:03 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-844970 What about McCain’s connection to organized crime? McCain didn’t seem to find a problem with using the finances and political connections of his father-in-law, Jim Hensley, a man who had close ties with organized crime. In 1948 Hensley was convicted of Federal charges, and in 1977, Hensley had close ties with who many believed was responsible for the murder of Don Bolles, the Arizona Republic reporter. Hensley was also in the thick of it with the Keating 5, of which McCain was one of the “5”. I don’t think Obama serving on a non-profit organization with Ayers (whose illegal activities took place when Obama was a child, and who was now a college professor) comes close to McCain’s affiation with organized crime. In 1995 McCain was also invited to the birthday party of crime boss Joe Banano. What about McCain’s connection to organized crime? McCain didn’t seem to find a problem with using the finances and political connections of his father-in-law, Jim Hensley, a man who had close ties with organized crime. In 1948 Hensley was convicted of Federal charges, and in 1977, Hensley had close ties with who many believed was responsible for the murder of Don Bolles, the Arizona Republic reporter. Hensley was also in the thick of it with the Keating 5, of which McCain was one of the “5”. I don’t think Obama serving on a non-profit organization with Ayers (whose illegal activities took place when Obama was a child, and who was now a college professor) comes close to McCain’s affiation with organized crime. In 1995 McCain was also invited to the birthday party of crime boss Joe Banano.

]]> By: Steven http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-844541 Steven Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:54:48 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-844541 People of the USA need to come out swinging,force investigations into the people murdered at Obamas Trinity church,voter fraud,caucus fraud,illegal overseas donations,violation of Logan act,forging presidential seals,illegal candidate run TV stations and attempts to silence free speech.These are all crimes. Long live USA People of the USA need to come out swinging,force investigations into the people murdered at Obamas Trinity church,voter fraud,caucus fraud,illegal overseas donations,violation of Logan act,forging presidential seals,illegal candidate run TV stations and attempts to silence free speech.These are all crimes.
Long live USA

]]> By: snosandy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-844464 snosandy Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:40:29 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-844464 Never has one candidate been so polarizing that he tears long standing relationships, even families apart. Never has one candidate been so polarizing that he tears long standing relationships, even families apart.

]]> By: typewriterstreaming http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-844425 typewriterstreaming Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:32:59 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/04/obamaayers-update-new-york-times-ignores-evidence-of-ayers-role-in-annenberg-board-selection/#comment-844425 You're right Paul F. Thank you for that. It's a mind screw and that's why the media is beginning to announce the election is over. You’re right Paul F. Thank you for that. It’s a mind screw and that’s why the media is beginning to announce the election is over.

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