Depravity, Not Decency
By Ani on October 6, 2008 at 10:00 PM in 4th Amendment, Gender Bias, Hillary Clinton, Misogyny, Sarah Palin, Sexism
At a work-related function Thursday, two bosses of mine decided to make a snarky, demeaning remark about Governor Palin in my presence. I’m sure they assume I am a Democrat and as such, the fact that I am a woman would have no bearing on the fact that they were deeply insulting someone of my gender.
She is a Republican. Therefore she is not human. She has chosen to raise a Down Syndrome baby and therefore that makes her something of a Neanderthal.
“She is only the Governor of Alaska – not a real state after all. Don’t they just have lots of snow and ice up there? I mean, who lives there, like 50 people, you know, next to that bridge to nowhere. What does she: shovel moose poop in front of the door of the shack she lives in with that husband of hers and five brats? God, she’s really stupid, huh? What an airhead. It’s a disgrace. Just because she can see Russia from her window, what does she know about foreign policy?
She’s a heartbeat away from the Presidency. I mean, McCain’s on his last legs, isn’t he? So she commands the Alaska National Guard – what are they, like, the boy scouts? What did Congressman Charlie Rangel say – “she’s disabled”?
It just keeps getting better.
I was in the yard while the Vice Presidential debate was taping. A neighbor poked her head out to say, “He’s slaughtering her!” I read some news story in the Boston Globe where a voter talking to Joe Biden said, “Take her down.” Someone else said, “Make her cry.”
Do all these filthy degenerate pustules of the lowest order have any idea of the hateful misogyny they are guilty of?
Thursday night, all the feelings came back – the misogynist Hillary horror show of the last nine months. Every nasty thing they said. Every great thing she did that they pretended didn’t exist. Every time the media, the DNC elite and the Obama thug squad keep moving the goal post and rearranging the rules to suit themselves and saying:
It’s not enough. You’re not enough. You’ll never be enough. No matter how you do it, we will find something wrong with it. We will find something wrong with you. Your pantsuits. Your ass. Your face. Your cackle. Your statements. Your family. Your solid record, which we will pretend amounts to much less than the empty briefcase of the charlatan against whom you are running.
Cold comfort to see this was not reserved for Hillary alone. How nice for her that she gets to sit in Washington, D.C. or in her New York office and witness this debacle leveled at Sarah Palin, so she can relive the lovely experience herself as well.
I was never so ashamed of having spent my life as a Democrat. What makes Democrats any better than the Republicans they have been forever characterizing as evil? I thought we were the party of tolerance, equal rights, equal opportunity and openness.
I was wrong.
We have been screaming at the Bush administration not to condone torture. Tell me, to whom do I apply for redress when I feel like I am being figuratively tortured having to listen to, and by extension, be slapped with these kinds of insults and demeaning behavior.
It is abuse. It is misogyny. It is vile no matter the source or object.
God forbid you find fault with someone on the issues. On something real.
A peripheral friend emailed me an offensive piece of material on Palin. It was written by Eve Ensler, another pretend feminist who penned something so vile and so bogus, I wonder that her nose didn’t grow and poke a hole in her computer screen before she hit the send button. Prior to this, the friend and I had not talked politics this year. I politely, so politely, informed her that I am not an Obama supporter. Her response was that she was shocked! Shocked!!
Oh, the humanity!! The self-righteous, pretentious outrage of it all! My response to her little missive, suffice it to say, was somewhat more thorough.
And you can take that any way you want to take it.
I suppose now, for all my education and the respect I have previously received from this person, and all the times I have fed and entertained her at my home, I am now considered a low information Neanderthal as well. Everything before has been wiped away. She even intimated we must be suffering from some deep seated racial bias.
She is an idiot. Let her worship at the foot of his “HOPE” poster and never darken my door again. Our friendship is over.
After our neighbor gave me the ‘review,’ I finally sat down with my husband to watch the debate we had TiVo’d for myself. Imagine my surprise when Sarah-cuda gave as good as she got – in fact, by all accounts she did much better than that.
I found myself weeping. It’s not that I’m so enamored of her, but I was so puking sick of watching yet another woman treated like dirt. Well, plenty of Dems treated Hillary like dirt. What did I expect they would do to a woman on the other side of the aisle?
It must be truly threatening to see a successful woman step up to the plate and stake a claim to something even bigger. The ‘male’ whom history seems hell bent on anointing as this ‘historic candidate’ is as thin as tissue paper but how dare we tell the truth about that. The contrasts in acceptable criticism of one versus the other show so wide a chasm, it defies description.
The horrid occurrences that came flooding back once again ensured I will never stand with any of this hateful cadre. If they can win this election, let them do it on their own.
What kind of a decent human being can treat a woman, a mother of five, a fellow human being this way? Have we lost so much as a society that this kind of low behavior is tolerated, even accepted?
Registering as an Independent when the primary ended was not only an act of protest against this undemocratic Democratic Party, but it helped to open my eyes. I can actually see how the other side has a point and is sick of our side’s elitism and snobbery.
Since the DNC says we need to elect Obama because he is a ‘symbol,’ well, America is a symbol as well. And electing ‘Party’ is not half as important to me now as electing character, decency, and honor.
Rove’s thugs may have stolen at least one of the last two elections. Does that make it permissible for our side to do it? The answer is a resounding no.
Just because neo-cons hijacked the Republican Party eight years ago, if the far left hijacks the Democrats, will that lead to a better end? Again, no.
Since I mentioned torture earlier, that is as good an analogy as any. Abu Graib represented the worst of America, not her best. We are who we are because we respect others rights, because we stand for freedom and decency. Once we show that it is all right to treat the other side with depraved indifference, we are no better. And they have succeeded in turning ‘us’ into ‘them.’
Likewise, if you think that Obama’s fraudulent tactics, nefarious connections and constant dissembling are acceptable, then Rove, Cheney and their ilk win.
The people attacking Sarah Palin are just as vile, if not worse, than any attack ever leveled at ‘us’ by Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter.
What makes us better?
What makes the left better than the right?
Right now: nothing.
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great post, ani. thank you for this.
The sexism must be stopped.
Both Hillary trashing and Palin trashing are not just sexism. It’s sheer hatred.
I totally agree with Ani.
Here’s my thought.
http://colberturdead2me.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/a15/
Whats hillarious about this whole Sarah Palin thing is the empty-headed terrorist loving Democrats who bow to their idol Obomber are just pissed they didn’t pick a woman to run! The party who is supposedly feminist and open-minded free thinkers are the ones who just followed the norm!! ha ha Obama lovers, you better grab your balls- (O sorry you don’t have any) and look out for Sarah Palin
Ani, I meant to mention this over at Camille’s blog, but you’ve said EVERYTHING I have wanted to say in this one essay. As always, I’m impressed and grateful to you!
Well written.
Hey guys, Jake Tapper is mention right change on his nightly post. Apparently he caught one of the right change ads that was posted here a couple of days ago, in North Carolina.
The one regarding Fannie and Freedie, here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP7QbjjJi6A
Very well written Ani! Thank you for this.
And add my thank you, Ani. A long time ago we stopped talking politics with our Democratic friends (we are now independent)in an attempt to keep our friendship after this horror ends. And it will - one way or another. We’re just hoping the end that spares the country his Presidency prevails.
I just realized that I said we were keeping our mouths shut when these horrific remarks swirl around us. We used to be Democrats but no one knows we are now Independent and voting McCain/Palin. I’m watching CNN and their raising Obama polls. How many are there like us that are either refusing to be polled or telling the pollsters we are Obama supporters because Obama supporting friends/relatives are nearby? In this atmosphere I would find it unusual for Democrats for McCain to step forward publicly. Does anyone else feel that way?
I am hearing this, too.
I don’t have evidence as to actual numbers across the country, but I do know quite a number of people, previously die hard Democrats, who are just quietly going about their business, and who will vote for the McCain ticket and a few who will vote third party.
A/C 360 covered the Obama/Ayers relationship and they were pretty hard on Obama.
Since they repeat the show several hours during the night, the segment occurs about 15:00 after the hour. It should be on again in a few minutes.
How the Democrats created the meltdown on Wall Street
By BLOOMBERG
Greenspan’s warning The clear gravity of the situation pushed the legislation forward. Some might say the current mess couldn’t be foreseen, yet in 2005 Fed chairman Alan Greenspan told Congress how urgent it was for it to act in the clearest possible terms: If Fannie and Freddie “continue to grow, continue to have the low capital that they have, continue to engage in the dynamic hedging of their portfolios, which they need to do for interest-rate risk aversion, they potentially create ever-growing potential systemic risk down the road,” he said. “We are placing the total financial system of the future at a substantial risk.” What happened next was extraordinary. For the first time in history, a serious Fannie and Freddie reform bill was passed by the Senate Banking Committee. The bill gave a regulator power to crack down, and would have required the companies to eliminate their investments in risky assets.
Different world If that bill had become law, then the world today would be different. In 2005, 2006 and 2007, a blizzard of terrible mortgage paper fluttered out of the Fannie and Freddie clouds, burying many of our oldest and most venerable institutions. Without their checkbooks keeping the market liquid and buying up excess supply, the market would likely have not existed. But the bill didn’t become law, for a simple reason: Democrats opposed it on a party-line vote in the committee, signaling that this would be a partisan issue. Republicans, tied in knots by the tight Democratic opposition, couldn’t even get the Senate to vote on the matter. That such a reckless political stand could have been taken by the Democrats was obscene even then. Wallison wrote at the time: “It is a classic case of socializing the risk while privatizing the profit. The Democrats and the few Republicans who oppose portfolio limitations could not possibly do so if their constituents understood what they were doing.” Mounds of materials Now that the collapse has occurred, the roadblock built by Senate Democrats in 2005 is unforgivable. Many who opposed the bill doubtlessly did so for honorable reasons. Fannie and Freddie provided mounds of materials defending their practices. Perhaps some found their propaganda convincing. But we now know that many of the senators who protected Fannie and Freddie, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd, have received mind-boggling levels of financial support from them over the years. Throughout his political career, Obama has gotten more than $125,000 in campaign contributions from employees and political action committees of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, second only to Dodd, the Senate Banking Committee chairman, who received more than $165,000. Clinton, the 12th-ranked recipient of Fannie and Freddie PAC and employee contributions, has received more than $75,000 from the two enterprises and their employees. The private profit found its way back to the senators who killed the fix. There has been a lot of talk about who is to blame for this crisis. A look back at the story of 2005 makes the answer pretty clear. Oh, and there is one little footnote to the story that’s worth keeping in mind while Democrats point fingers between now and November 4: Senator John McCain was one of the three cosponsors of S.190, the bill that would have averted this mess. Kevin Hassett, director of economic-policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, is a Bloomberg News columnist. He is an adviser to Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona in the 2008 presidential election. The opinions expressed are his own.
Pardon me, but what does this have to do with topic of this post?
REPUBLICAN DAILY SCHEDULE:
1. Get up.
2. Pee.
3. Screw things up.
4. Blame the liberals.
Is either you have not being paying attention, or you do not want to face the truth.
Let’s see…
The left didn’t steal two Presidential elections, put convicted criminals, traitors, and war criminals in the White House, let the terrorists get through and tried to blame Bill Clinton, lose a major city (and try to blame the Democrats) piddle away the Clinton surplus, shame America before the entire world, let our wounded vets lie around in their own urine, engineer the Second Great Depression (and tried to blame the Democrats), create and spread misogynistic lies about Hillary and Chelsea Clinton, create and spread scrofulous rumors about their own candidate, smeare a Viet Nam War hero to win the Presidency, lost all our allies of consequence, rack up more debt than all previous Presidents combined, cause the violent crime rate to go up, cause the infant mortality rate to go up for the first time in 40 years, insinuate corruption into every fiber of the body politic, or make torture national policy.
We’re also more tolerant and intelligent, generally.
This election is not about left versus right. It is about stopping The Precious, a wannabe tyrant from taking over our country. We can go back to ideological debates after the election.
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Not this year, Perry.
Most unfortunately.
Our own party turned on us and every night Perry is here defending them. It’s getting on my nerves!
Perry’s rants are getting on my nerves, too. So I ignore them. I pass over his strange video links, too. One was too many.
I’ve had enough of Perry. I just unsubscribed from his videos on YouTube.
Great article, Ani. As usual your work is superb!
Perry — did you know 4 of the Keating 5 were democrats. Did you know McCain was the only one of them EXONERATED.
Did you know Barney Frank was having a love affair with one of the men charged with overseeing Freddie and Fannie? And that it was Barney (Along with Senator Dodd) who blocked regulation of Fannie & Freddie? And speaking of Senator Dodd — did you you as the head of the banking committe it was clearly an illegal favor when Countrywide gave Dodd a very low VIP mortgage rate?
Did you know Nancy Pelosi is funneling her campaign contributions to her husband as a “consultant” by setting up a company under his name?
Did you know the Chicago Daley cabal selected Biden to be Obama’s running mate because favors were owed. And that Biden’s top fundraiser was indicted ALONG WITH Obama’s buddy, Rezko. Weird coincidence, no?
Going further back —
Did you know Lyndon Johnson was tied to the murder of a leading Texas businessman who was about to turn state’s evidence against him. Johnsin was actually bane in court papers as part of the conspiracy. But the case was shuffled aside when Johnson became JFK’s VP.
Did you know that Jack Kennedy’s father squeaked out a win for his son’s presidency by teaming with Mob bosses in Chicago and ordering all union members to stuff ballot boxes for JFK and provide muscle at the voting polls?
These things are off the top of my head — I bet if I research I can find more.
Perry - can you say with a straight face that Democrats — especially Obama — come into office with clean hands?
If that’s what you’re implying then intelligence isn’t your strong suit.
I really don’t know how many times this needs to be said.
BOTH SENATORS MCCAIN AND GLENN WERE EXONERATED.
Get your facts right.
Obama supporters are quick to say “This is no worse than John McCain’s involvement with Lincoln Savings, John Keating, and McCain’s role in the “Keating Five”. The difference is, no one from Lincoln Savings, including John Keating ever served on John McCain’s election campaigns. And, John McCain donated all campaign contributions from Keating, his relatives, and his employees to the US Treasury.
John McCain only requested that Federal Banking Regulators give Keating and Lincoln Savings a fair hearing, and make sure they were treated with due process by the regulatory agency. McCain specifically told regulators “I wouldn’t want any special favors for Keating or Lincoln Savings” and “I don’t want any part of our conversation to be improper”.
The Senate Ethics Committee probe of the Keating Five began in November 1990, and committee Special Counsel Robert Bennett, a Democrat, recommended that McCain and Ohio Senator John Glenn be dropped from the investigation.
In February 1991, the Senate Ethics Committee exonerated McCain and Glenn, saying “McCain and Glenn attended the meetings but did nothing to influence the regulators” and declared his actions were not “improper nor attended with gross negligence.”. McCain contributed $112,000 (the amount raised for him by Keating and associates) to the U.S. Treasury. http://www.slate.com/id/1004633/
They are reaching, because that’s all they’ve got. And it’s not just Ayers–it is part of a very obvious radical pattern: Ayers, Wright/Black Liberation Theology, Pfleger, Meeks, Khalidi et. al. If the Fourth Estate was not dead, this would have all been investigated months ago.
You forget that the committee found that McCain exercised poor judgment. Isn’t that the claim that you repugs use when talking about Wright and Ayers? That Obama exercised poor judgment in his associations, so its fair game to me. I think there are better targets than the Keating 5. You want to talk associations? G. Gordon Liddy. I hope Obama counters with that association tonight.
OK. Let’s Play the Bad Associations Game:
McCain - 1
Obama - 38
Don’t forget that when the Wright tapes first broke in the national (soon-to-be-in-the-tank-for-Obama) media, many were comparing Wright’s connection to Obama with Hagee’s connection to McCain. Never mind that McCain didn’t sit in Hagee’s church for 20 years. Never mind that McCain didn’t have Hagee officiate at his wedding or have Hagee oversee his children’s baptisms. Never mind that McCain didn’t consider Hagee to be a “close friend”.
The simple fact that a white right-wing Christian nutcase had endorsed McCain was enough to be the absolute equivalent to a Black left-wing Christian nutcase’s connections to Obama.
So that makes 3 Democrats not Exonerated, 1 Dem and 1 Rep Exonerated.
Next.
Thank you, Susan!
Perry you are full of it. During the primary, the Democrats were disgustingly misogynistic and sexist towards only covertly so. They stood by in silence while the right skewered her.
Obama said that Regan had all of the good ideas, thereby snubbing Bill’s Presidency and then Obama’s surrogates started saying Bill was a racist. In fact, Tim Russert caught Obama in his own lie about playing the race card “under the radar.”
The Democrats did much damage to the Clinton legacy. I wish Bill Clinton would piss all over you and Obama.
Get your facts straight! Obama said Reagan was a transformative figure in politics, which he was whether you liked him or not (I didn’t) and as Obama countered when attacked, Hillary said glowing things about Reagan’s economic and foreign police in a Tom Brokaw book.
Ani posted this for you to think about what we have been doing to women: the way the men “world” treat your sister, your girlfriend, your mom, your wife.
All your doing here is going off point, sounding like you have ever cared about the Clintons. As always sounding off.
Oh, I forget your are Perry Logan.
Stick to the topic next time.
This election isn’t about party, anymore. This election is really about saving America to improve her, or losing our Traditional American Way of Life.
This fight is not along party lines, it is along patriotic lines. There are democrats-whose-party-left-them, centrists,moderates on each side and repubs whose party leadership left them. Against the bots and the Shadow Candidate. The importance of this election is trememdous, and it has allowed many of us who would ordinarily not speak, work together for a common good. A cause greater than ourselves. We wont give up, and we will not forget the bond that we have forged. Onward! Distribute flyers, make phone calls, and make this video go viral http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voBBx9EaEGA&feature=related
God bless you all and God bless America.
God Bless You, too.
No one said the Democratic party didn’t have heroes. There’s FDR, John and Robert and Martin to name a few and they left some mighty big shoes to fill. Our complaints are that the Democratic party chose the least qualified of the candidates to fill them - although the rank and file party members chose Senator Clinton.
And just as the Republican party turned away from its ideology to put George W. Bush in power, the Democratic party has turned away from its ideology to put some mystery man named Barry/Barack Soertoro/Obama in power. And We the People have every right to reject him with or without a reason whether you find that reason acceptable to you or not.
What makes you think FDR is a hero? The stupidity and economic thoughtlessness he showed in his New Deal greatly prolonged the Depression, which meant that millions of poor people suffered for years longer than they would have. He was just another economic lefty who thought you could get out of a depression by taxing and spending. Big mistake. Oh, who’s this, just around the corner, about to try the same thing? Why, it would be….Curious George?
Jason..
Years ago I might have been angry at you since I’ve always considered myself an FDR liberal.
Now I have changed and can see the folly of raising taxes and pushing tariffs in an economic downturn
http://townhall.com/Columnists/DavidRStokes/2008/10/05/fdr_and_the_great_deflation
Man, you have not lived in Chicago. Come live here for a year and you will see that the left is equally repulsive and has committed similar offenses over the years.
I have a friend who was a gerontophile until he saw one of Perry’s videos. That cured him.
Perry, sometimes you really are a twit.
More Tolerant?
Stop living in the past.
Thats Democratic Party doesn’t exist right now.
They gave up all claim to the principles they believed in this election cycle.
The Obamacrat Party is about as Tolerant as Hitler’s was as he rose to power.
And you Perry are so lock step commited to believing the worst of the other side you can’t figure out whether to get off the fence and sell it all down the river or fight against it.
I don’t envy you at all in your confusion.
Perry, I have NO party affiliation…I am an independent thinker and voter…The biased garbage that you are spewing is the very problem that is wrong with our broken two-party government…Anyone that blindly follows ANY political party and spews hatred toward anyone that disagrees with them is simply a cultist…That’s right, just like the cultist Obots…You need to take a good long hard look at yourself in the mirror and you will see the stains left at the corners of your foul mouth from the Democratic Kool-Aid that you have been drinking, sir.
In short, you are no better than the Obots that you despise so much…The Republicans that spew their foul and ridiculous talking points about the Democrats are in the same class…That is the class of NO CLASS AT ALL!!!
Quit drinking the Kool-aid sir, get yourself deprogrammed and start thinking for yourself…I’ll bet that you will be a much happier camper…Independent, try it!!!!
Wow, you managed to cram just about every liberal myth of the last 8 years into one paragraph.
Not much of an achievement however - it’s almost a carbon copy of the exact same letter that liberals have been sending to their local newspapers obsessively throughout the entire Bush administration.
And further, the left certainly doesn’t nominate for the vice presidency someone who:
(1) Uses the inherent powers of her office to wage a personal vendetta against a former in-law, thus conflating a private family matter with public policy;
(2) Credits the personal blessing of an African witch doctor with her election as governor; and
(3) Winks at her TV audience in a faux-suggestive manner, like she’s a waitress at Hooter’s soliciting a 20% tip.
A faux-suggestive manner??
You should have watched the O’Reilly-Obama interview — Obama was flirting with O’Reilly so hard, flattering O’Reilly’s sporting skills, I thought he was going to ask him out — he was being completely flirty and seductive. It was sickening to watch…go look for yourself. What a joke — he will do anything to get elected — this is the Presidential candidate!! But he is the messiah so he gets a pass on this.
And her former in law had many citations for inappropriate behavior and used a tazer on his nine year old step son — wow — what a pillar of the community.
Go spread your tripe someplace else please.
Perry - I hate to break it to you, buddy. But -
“create and spread misogynistic lies about Hillary and Chelsea Clinton”
YOU DID
“rack up more debt than all previous Presidents combined”
YOU WILL
“cause the violent crime rate to go up”
YOU WILL
“insinuate corruption into every fiber of the body politic”
ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? YOU’RE DOING THIS RIGHT NOW!
Get off your sanctimonious soap box. Go preach to your New Democratic choir, where they’re still buying this bullshit.
Your comment was so astounishing in its mendacity and ignorance that one wonders if you make your living writing copy ofr extenz or if your just an associate at a sixth rate law firm, or perhaps just another sociology PHD candidate.
Given your many complaints wouldn’t you be well advised to seek greener pastures in a more honest country that is closer to your political inclinations, say Cuba.
Just one little comment on your spiel of lies about your god the democratic party- sounds like you are really into conspiracy!! Anyway my comment, since when did you democrats give a rats ass about the infant mortality rate? What a sick joke!! you are the pro-abortion party but you care about the infant mortality rate supposedly going up with George Bush- get real, you need to take a good long look at your own sick demented minds and the sick empty mind of your precious Obama- he voted against partial-birth abortion and leaving babies to die that survived abortion! Come on, welcome to the real world! I won’t comment on the other steaming heaps of crap but this one really caught my attention- Oh, we care so much about the infant!! My ass!!
Pathetic that people would treat a capable patriotic woman as you have outlined. More reason to vote for Mac and Palin. She is actually being discriminated against, unlike The Precious who pretends and fabricates discrimination. I hope Obama and his brownshirt trolls burn in hell for what they have done to Hillary, Palin and womenkind.
You are not alone Ani. So, you lose one friend and you gain another. Great post.
Obama can’t take what his campaign has been dishing out since the primaries. Sarah Palin’s comments are obviously hitting some soft-spots. And she’s a woman to boot! Their customary charge of “racism” which worked do well against the Clinton democrats are nothing to the republicans. Boy, is he going to be discombobulated soon.
Good News everybody McCain is up in Georgia… That Ayers stuff is really working. lol lol lol lol lol.
FloridaFOX/Rasmussen Obama 52, McCain 45 Obama +7
VirginiaFOX/Rasmussen Obama 50, McCain 48 Obama +2
ColoradoFOX/Rasmussen Obama 51, McCain 45 Obama +6
Missouri FOXRasmussen Obama 50, McCain 47 Obama +3
NationalNBCNews/Wall St Obama 49, McCain 43 Obama +6
Virginia SurveyUSA Obama 53, McCain 43 Obama +10
North Carolina PPP (D) McCain 44, Obama 50 Obama +6
New HampshireSurveyUSA Obama 53, McCain 40 Obama +13
National CBS News Obama 48, McCain 45 Obama +3
National CNN Obama 53, McCain 45 Obama +8
NationalGallup Tracking Obama 50, McCain 42 Obama +8
National Rasmussen Trac Obama 52, McCain 44 Obama +8
NationalHotline/FD Trac Obama 47, McCain 41 Obama +6
Ohio ABC News/Wash Post Obama 51, McCain 45 Obama +6
Virginia Suffolk Obama 51, McCain 39 Obama +12
National Democrac Corps Obama 49, McCain 46 Obama +3
Pennsylva Morning Call Obama 49, McCain 38 Obama +11
NationalGW/Battleground Obama 50, McCain 43 Obama +7
New Mexico Albu Journal Obama 45, McCain 40 Obama +5
Georgia Research 2000 McCain 50, Obama 43 McCain +7
What does this have to do with the topic ofthis post?
Nada, zilch, zippo and the MSM and polls are all rigged so meaningless to boot! Those numbers are supposed to demoralize us and make us give up. Put in context they only further our resolve to fight on for Mac!
I doubt you were saying that a month ago. But hey No Quarter is the Twilight Zone. Just make it up as you go.
Be kind. Obots have severe reading comprehension problems.
We take after our hero Sayrah. lol lol
God you are a moron. These polls were done PRIOR to the Ayers story. Plus, if you actually knew how to read the polls you would see that they are oversampling AAs & Dems in general. Now, go study for your mid-terms.
Oversampling AKA rigged!
Yeah you’re right. I’m sure Sayrah’s comments will make an 8 point diff in the polls. What could I have possibly been thinking. Oh.. and Sayrah is the biggest idiot VP ever. Only a true moron would suggest otherwise. But blame her stupidity on the media… easy out for you sheep.
Truly, why must you come here and be so vile?
I would never dream of going to an Obama website and behaving this way.
Why would you want to instigate this?
This post is not even discussing poll numbers or who is winning.
What’s more vile? To suggest that Palin truly is ignorant (as she’s proven over and over again) or that Obama is Hitler, or the Anti-christ etc. etc. etc.
Well, it is vile because it is not true that she is ignorant. Sexism rears its ugly head again at Camp Hopey/Changey.
What makes you think Sarah Palin is ignorant? She is an extremely intelligent woman. Just because she has views different from yours does not make her ignorant. If she were ignorant, she would not have been elected Mayor of Wasilla, nor Governor of Alaska, nor all her other accomplishments.
It must gall you that a woman has achieved more in her lifetime than you have in yours.
Your candidate of choice is not as intelligent as he makes himself out to be. He is a good orator, but if you really listen to what he is saying you would discover that he isn’t saying anything. He speaks in double speak.
Your candidate of choice invokes in me the same feelings I had of George W. Bush - I didn’t/don’t like him and I definitely didn’t/don’t trust him. My feelings about Bush were proven correct and I know they will be proven correct on Obama.
You think this administration sold us out? Wait and see what will happen if your candidate gets elected. God help us all.
Ani, if you went to one of the Obama websites, you would be banned as I have been and I am sure others posting here have been. It appears on a lot of their websites that unless you support The Lucifer, then you can’t post on them.
I’m sure you would never dream of behaving this way on an Obama website, until it came to Smart, sexy, accomplished Sarah Palin, then the true colors come out- you self righteous, Obomber fondlers, You can put lipstick on a bigot, self righteous, air head, pig, and its still a terrorist running for president! OOPS - did Obomber really say that lipstick-pig comment? O but he meant it in a good-hearted, mature way!!My ass, you wouldn’t behave like this!!!
What part of oversampling do you not understand? What part of those polls were done a week ago, don’t you understand?
You think Palin is dumb? Guess what, she is practically Einstein compared to BO — I bet she knows how many states are in the USA & I bet she knows that the US didn’t liberate Aushchwitz. You might not like what she says (heck, I don’t agree on half her policies) but at least she says what she means the first time & doesn’t have to have everyone explain “what she meant to say” for 3 days after she says it (”an undivided Israel” or “NO preconditions” ring any bells?). Also, Palin hasn’t told me that she will vote against something & then turn around & vote for it (FISA). The fact is the guy you have put all your pre-pubescent hopes in has no redeeming value other then “not being the other guy/gal.” BO is the biggest idiot presidential candidate EVAH. The man needs a teleprompter with him in town halls because he can’t string a sentence together without twenty “uhs” thrown in there on his own. The fact that you yourself compare him to the VP candidate on the other ticket shows how unqualified of a candidate he is. Never in the history of presidential elections has the top of one ticket been compared with the second spot on the other — know why? Because BO can’t compare to McCain, so you, and the msm, don’t eve try!
Unlike you, this isn’t my first time at the rodeo. I remember how the msm fawned all over W. & lied about Gore & Kerry to propel him twice to the White House. And I can see the same fawning by them over BO now and I’m smart enough to know — if the media loves your candidate you are on the wrong side.
Angie… you were mentally deranged in the rodeo. MSM NEVER loved Bush. Irrelevant.. you’re blinded by the light. No matter, I think Palin is vastly more qualified than Hillary anyway. She can see Russia from her porch, she reads anything she can get her hands on (only she can’t remember any of them), she’s met all those foreign leaders (in one day no less), and she really knows how to duck a question. Palin in 2012, go SAYRAHHH!!
OBAMA: 57 states of American, Great Lakes in Oregon, My Muslim Faith, I Pushed The Wrong Button. My Banking Committee, He/She’s not the _____________I’ve known, I didn’t know Ayers was a Weatherman Terrorist………
Poor McBush..
You are a pacifist and a wimp.
I’m just glad that people like you have no effect on this nations foreign policy.
“She can see Russia from her porch”.
The distance between Russia and the US through the Bering Strait is only 58 miles.
I don’t see what the problem is….
I can see Canada from one of my front porches.
actually she said one could se Russia from an island off alaska. that was in an interview.
It is only 3 miles from Big Diomede Island (Russia) from Little Diomede Island (Alaska). She was right.
Yeah, there used to be military people there, and they told us that on clear days, they’d wave to the Russian soldiers on the other island.
Also, there was a man, who after having had a bit too much to drink, walked to Russia over the Arctic Ocean. That was in about ‘85 or ‘86, when we lived up there. It was still the USSR, and it created a bit of an incident.
Outstanding Seattle in Johnny Mac’s admin you could his ambassador to Canada. lol
I think your first priority wussy should be learning to speak English correctly.
hey little boy go foad .if you half a brain and did any research you might find that in colorado ppp has ocaca up and their breakdown is 39percent dems 33percent rep and the rest ind.if you check colorado sec state has voter registration at 30 percent dem,34 percent rep and 36 percent ind .so go foad.
Gee, media polls are sooo accurate, aren’t they?
I wonder if the knome who posted these polls know that Obama is following in John Kerry’s footsteps from four years ago? I wonder if he/she/it knows that John Kerry lost the 2004 general election in spite of being ahead of GWB in virtually every MSM-generated poll between the Dem convention and Election Day?
Thank you Ani.
I want the bumper sticker I saw in rural Washington — Palin for VP!
Palin IS a feminist — and now I have questions about some of the so called liberal “feminists” — some of these women are being so damned nasty toward a woman who happens to be a Republican.
I don’t have a tv — but I did have access to a fast Internet connection and I’ve been able to view the Thursday night debate.
What Palin did was superb.
The younger generation IS paying attention to Palin, thanks to her ability handle tough questions and stand up to Biden.
I could not agree with you more Ani. Mind boggling to behold the the dark side of humanity being given overt approval. The intruments of a requiem are being conducted by a baton of indifference.
What is this I hear? Is it the sound of a lone outcast flute?
Ani
If I may paraphrase a friend, Shtue,
“Oh. Don’t hold back now. Tell us how you really feel.”
I am glad you wrote this. Some people have no natural way of understanding the complexity of your pain and anger until you simply, in unchained words, tell them.
Thank you for sharing a “feeling” that I have had a hard time explaining to other men.
Ani,I agree with you wholeheartedly. I’ve received urgent emails from friends I’ve known since I was younger than my daughter(20).Urgent !! npr poll “Is Sarah Palin Qualified”? How dare she be McCain’s nominee as if “all women were the same”!! Well at least AA are loyal. Women certainly aren’t to other women. In the interest of lifelong friendships I delete their e-mails. I’m sadder but wiser. They are shocked a professionally educated woman such as myself would support such a highly unaccomplished rube as Sarah. I mean the idea that she is a governor at 44, has 5 children, a supportive husband is certainly indicative of her unreadiness, right??
When Hillary was eviserated by the press and the enlightened feminists I felt so sucker punched. I’m not allowing myself to be that invested in all this after that- out of a sense of self preservation. I do think decency and honesty still count.The dems gave up that this time. I can’t support that.
I want to say that I do feel so grateful to have people who see this the way I do on this blog.It makes me feel less alone. All things are cyclical and this will pass though maybe later than we’d like it to.
Yes, Laura…I felt sucker-punched as well after the Plastic One stole the nomination. And I also am wary of getting too emotionally invested in this race for fear of going through that again.
A lot of my family members are Dems and just cannot fathom that I would support McCain/Palin. We just don’t talk about it in the name of family unity.
We’ll see…it’s still almost a month till the
coronationer, I mean election, and anything can happen.B. Hussein Obama will never be my president.
First–please all of you, try to ignore Perry and expecially any dim-witted trolls. I know from experience that it hurts them way more just to be treated as if they are invisible and unhearable (if that’s a word). IGNORE THEM!
Second, Ani, I cannot tell you how alone I feel at work, with friends, with family nowadays. Hillary’s campaign started me back on the road of feminism. The newer feminists HAD turned me off, and now I know why. But now again I am starting to understand the meaning of sisterhood, and nothing makes me angrier now than people who prejudge a sister for the choices she has made.
Sarah had me cheering during the debate, not crying, though I understand the crying. I try to channel all my strength to her as she campaigns because they’re going to try to wear her down, make her cry, and then make fun of her. We’ve all go to somehow let her know she is fine the way she is.
If anyone–and thank heavens no one has so far–says anything mean about her baby in my presence, I may not be able to contain myself. She is making her children proud and giving them valuable examples.
Go Sister Sarah!!
You would not believe the sexist comments I am getting FROM WOMEN who have gone to my website because I mentioned the LA NOW president endorsing Palin. Women, who call themselves feminists, calling Palin an “airhead” among other sexist things. I have a policy on my website not to approve sexist comments, but I am saving the worst of them for an upcoming feature.
I am also emailing these sexist women back saying I am rejecting their comment for including a sexist slur that is the equivalent of using the “N” word against Obama.
We MUST not be silent with these people. We MUST speak up and express our disapproval.
Can someone here do a post on the LA NOW president with contact information so we can support her? I’m sure she is getting attacked from all sides for her endorsement.
Yeah, I was looking for her email addy yesterday and couldn’t find it. I’d love to send her an email of support.
fif, go to the California NOW website (google it) and to the left is a tab called California Chapters, click on it and scroll down you’ll find Shelly Mandell’s name and LA NOW there. Good luck. I already left her a message and sent her a supportive email.
Good for you Hillary or Bust.
It’s true what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
Very well said.
Great post Ani, I know how you feel. I live in Hollywood and went Hiking on Sat. morning, I heard three women talking about the election. 2 white and 1 AA. They were saying the most horrid things about Gov. Palin and her pregnant daughter, and the woman who was talking about the Pregnant daughter was pregnant herself! She was saying that the boy who HAS to marry the daughter is probably regretting it for his quick thrill, she was also disgustingly animated in performing a sexual move as an example of the quick thrill. The other women were laughing, goading her on and then they started talking about Gov. Palins hair saying she “looked mean” and “something in her eyes says she is evil.” The AA woman then said during the debate Gov. Palin was so pushing her support of Israel and she thought, “why would she say that has she ever been to Israel” and then, this is the topper, she said, “I HAVE NO DOOUBT THAT SHE WOULD ENSLAVE MY PEOPLE AGAIN.” The other women agreed with her. They were so loud while they were talking and I was on the verge of saying something to them, but I just stared in disbelief as they walked away and continued their embarrassing conversation.
Anyway, this election cycle has challeged all of my beliefs. I’ve always considered myself part of the left, but no more. I want nothing to do with these psychos. I’ve started to reexamine evolutionary psychology and believe our inate animal instincts no matter how “developed” we believe ourselves to be, take over and it will always be about survival of the fittest.
beverly: I just wrote the same thing about my thoughts re: evolutionary psychology below, just before I read your post. There is something very primitive going on in this election cycle, and it is not pretty. Frightening. And why haven’t we been influenced by it? Even though I have extremely negative feelings about Obama, I would never think wish him physical harm or degrade him like they do with her.
I think women are distinctly different in how they view problems and how they resolve differences. Women talk, men fight.
I also read some great books one I would suggest is Darkness at Noon by Arthur Koestler. Watch what happens to the rightous revolution.
Great post. Thank you!
By the way, Eve Ensler was for Obama and against Hillary as far back as February 2008…….There is NO woman she’d like to have on the Nat’l ticket, apparently.
Which is astonishing considering that Hillary has spent so many years helping to put Women’s Rights organizations on the map, giving that unbelievable speech on women’s rights in Beijing in 1995 (against the advice of the State Dept. by the way) and fighting for women’s contraceptive rights (morning after pill, anyone) and who knows how much else.
What has Obama done for women’s rights. Nada.
Eve Ensler, supposedly a champion of women, after writing The Vagina Monologues. You would think she would have one hundred reasons to support Hillary.
Not so much, eh?
She chooses to support a sexist instead. AFter his playing “I Got 99 Problems, BUt a B*itch Ain’t One” in Iowa — I would have thought Miss Ensler would figure out that this is not the candidate for her.
Unbelievable.
They should have been carrying Hillary through the streets on their shoulders. So many of these prominent “feminists” supporting the callow, inexperienced man instead. Hypocrites.
Yeah they’re really hitting home.
Excellent post. I too was appalled by the Eve Ensler e-mail I received (about two dozen times now). I am both embarrassed and outraged that this misogyny is coming form the left and from self-described “feminists” at that.
Bloody hypocrites!
P.S. And, yes, I’m going to vote for Palin simply because she has a vajayjay.
That’s the only reason to vote for here… lol
Eve Ensler should go back to letting her vagina monologue for her, she had so many more eloquent things to say.
Ani, I could have written this blog. You reflect what many of us are going through. We were all Democrats for a reason and that reason is taken away by the current crop. Were they always there? I don’t know how they got their voice now if they did. What is so surprising and sad is that they are ready to stoop so low to win for this guy that it almost makes them inhuman. I also came across a low information voter, the other kind this Friday who had voted for Clinton but now says she will stick with Obama — she said she had principles. She does not know what she is talking about.
Thursday night, all the feelings came back – the misogynist Hillary horror show of the last nine months. Every nasty thing they said. Every great thing she did that they pretended didn’t exist.
I thought we were the party of tolerance, equal rights, equal opportunity and openness.
Ani, I am always amazed by how in sync we are. I have felt exactly the same way, and I have also received the hateful emails re: Palin. A good friend of mine–a liberal LA TV producer, sent me an email asking if I hated Palin as much as she did and “she’d like to shoot her from a plane” (referencing the wolves issue). I deleted it and have not written back. I have also argued with my boss (another feminist Democrat), a single mother of four, who is outraged that Palin thinks she can raise kids AND be VP. “It is incredibly selfish!” When I point out that we don’t know her circumstances, she has a supportive spouse, and besides, isn’t choice about it being none of our damn business? she yelled, “It’s not the same!” She also cited the Eve Ensler email. At the time I didn’t read it, I just said, “What do I care what Eve Ensler says–she can be wrong.” Synchronistically, I was clearing out papers for her today and she had printed the Ensler email and I read it. I was disgusted. She basically copied all of the smears that are circulating and reported them as fact: she bans books, doesn’t believe in evolution or contraception, and shoots wolves. All of these have been debunked as distortions. It doesn’t matter. “Feminists” with authority are slandering her with vicious abandon, and women like my boss read it and pass it on to all of their friends. What sickens me is that this is EXACTLY what was done to HRC in the 90’s and had a good part in preventing her from securing the nomination–her “negatives.” The lies that were created about her then have had a lasting effect on many people. Obama had robocalls going into PA & OH that said, “She is untrustworthy” just to remind people of one of the smears so he could use it to his advantage.
I share your horror and pain at this realization. These people have become what we despised. I was just thinking about it earlier tonight and wondering what it says about human nature–the primal nature that we barely cover with socialized rituals. It is very ugly. I do not share much of Palin’s ideology, but I am so proud of her, my sister. Today, she slapped down a heckler with great conviction and aplomb, and I thought, “You go girl!”
Amen!
We need to create an alternative email debunking the Palin smears and pass that around instead. Does anyone have a good one? Perhaps we can all start writing some of these letters to send?
We should never just delete these horrible emails and say nothing. We should have a response READY and send it back!
How about just sending them that quote, “There should be a special place in hell for women who don’t support other women.”
That’s a good idea. I have collected some of Palin’s quotes to rebut the claims re: gay rights, the wolves, evolution (her father was a science teacher), contraception, and experience. Then again, most people who are in this mind set are fact averse. They have been the same way about Obama all along. They do not want the truth–they want to be right and to WIN, regardless of what is real. It’s like a disease. Pure dogma. Obama fundamentalism.
I have been fighting with everyone at work also. None of them have facts or a clue, they are mindlessly voting party. I’ve gotten Gloria Steinems email sent to me and I was nice when I sent it back saying although I like Gloria, I do not agree, friend said she was disgusted and I responed with a scathing email filled with facts and told her to shove her disgust where the sun don’t shine.
Brilliant post, Ani. These vile assaults on female candidates and others who stand up for decency take some spiritual maturity to see through. It’s like there’s an invisible dividing line between those who understand the bigger questions of human decency and those who don’t. And it’s as if the revolution we are involved in is for the Soul of what America represents in the world.
Whenever I peruse the net, there are always comments directed at her looks, lack of intelligence *(not may words)* and that nasty c word. Some type it out and others well they do it a little more creative. Anyway those are the ones I respond too.
I let them know that they should be attacking the policies not the person. Of course then they call me names, and some I havent even heard of. Im 46, I dont know all the new lingo. And my teenager wont tell me what they mean. So I guess its pretty bad.
Obama and his supporters soured me on him in the primaries. There behavior isnt any better in the General.
I wouldnt tolerate that behavior from my sons, and I dont reward that type of behavior. They should have thought past the end of their noses.
I will vote early on November 4th, its my day off. And in case no one you didnt know it, I will vote for McCain/Palin.
PS; I dont believe in polls. Its wishfull thinking. Its like asking a child what do you want for Christmas..
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I think you mean exposed by the MSM and knocked off his pedestal. The Precious has already been exposed here on NQ and other blogs.
The MSM is the culprit. Are we citizens powerless to their decisions? They decided Obama, just like they decided Bush, the Patriot Act, and AUMF.
Ding! You win the truth prize!
C-span just played the townhall from 92 with Bush,Perot,and Clinton.
It is fascinating that through elections, we still face the same challenges, many of them
That speaks to obama who promises the world but history is evidence he could never succeed in his plans(thankfully)
It also speaks to Palin and Mccain. Poeple who work not talk. Take action instead of laying in the cut.
We need workhorses. Not show horses.
Well said, Ani. And, Hillary or Bust, I’m going to take a page out of your book. I’ve been inundated with emails from female friends who have truly shocked me with their venomous, sexist comments. I have tried to avoid further damage by not responding, but your analogy with the N word is perfect. I’m going to start firing back. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Go away McBush, evil bot.
I think that the Ayers story might have some legs. I’m still terrified of the prospect of Nobama, but maybe there is a possibility that the MSM will run with the story. Furthermore, it looks like Rezko is going to start squealing. That would be so great!!!!! I hope McCain crushes Obama in the debate tomorrow. Barack Freddy&Fanny Obama
my friend from haiti told me a couple months ago that they won’t vote for him because he is black. when i said i wouldn’t vote and listed reason after reason, he said i was different, but they wouldn’t because he was black.
he is black himself. and it was also very sad.
I spoke with a black college student Friday who said he could never vote Democratic.
A black person told me Obama was the black Hitler for his false charges of racism and other tactics reminiscent of Nazi Germany. I’m pretty certain they will be voting for Mac.
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I thought we were the party of tolerance, equal rights, equal opportunity and openness.
I was wrong.
These are not Your Father’s Democrats.
In all of the elections that I have seen (several) I have never seen the Republicans be as vile, disgusting, and personally offensive as the Oborg have been this year. Disagree with a candidates policies - that is fine. But what the Oborg are doing now is obscene.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/mccain-palin-do.html
You may not like him, but it is a good thing he is endorsing McCain/Palin. Might help with the poll numbers.
You missed the memo Andrew… as of today we don’t believe in polls. lol lol. That is until they show McCain ahead again.
Shut up and go away. If you haven’t anything constructive to say, leave.
Constructive???? What a joke. 2 wars, worst economy in 40 or 50 years and you all are discussing Bill Ayers as a reason to vote for your guy. Reaaaaaaaalll constructive.
hmmm…..terrorism is just a game to you big guy? Ayers is a terrorist, you know, bombing buildings……Gee, maybe Obama could make Timothy McVeigh the Chief of Staff or something eh? What about Charlie Manson for Secretary of Health?
Way to dig deep for that one, talk about a reach. Let’s be straight. This WHOLE site is about Hillary. Obama’s biggest transgression is beating Hillary in the primaries. To suggest otherwise from YOU PEOPLE is a flat LIE!!!
I’d rank his sell out on telecom immunity number one. His expansion of bush’s faith based giveaways is definitely number two.
Substantive Wildchild. But what about Healthcare, education, economic policies all of which he is pretty much on the same page as Hill. What ASTOUNDS me is that Hill supporters could actually try and make a case for that ignoramus Sayrah. Hill would put her to shame politically when she was still in college. But NQ is so emotionally invested in hating Obama ALL of your sensiblilites are gone. It’s truly pitiful.
ok, let’s do substantive. Hillary opposed telecom immunity. She said she would and then she did. Substantively, Hillary is good for her word which makes her policy positions believable. Of course BOBO isn’t good for his word which makes any similarity in policy between him and Hillary seem like nothing more than BOBO’s whim of the day. Substantively speaking of course.
ummm, check his policies. They are NOT similar to Hillarys.
Then come down to Chicago and see for yourself how he executes the change he promises. NOT. If he can’t do it here what makes you think he can do it anywhere.
When did Obama ever supported UHC? In fact, he’s the one trashing Hillary for supporting UHC during primary.
Education? How did the Chicago public schools do? What make you think the fail attempt in Chicago will translate to success in the country?
As for economy, the Clintons are for balance budget and small government and middle class tax cut a well as welfare reform. Obama is for tax increase and big spending(almost a trillion increase). How did you come to the conclusion of their similarities on those three issues?
If you are going to lie, at lease try it where people are too stupid to understand! Like Pro-0bama sites!
McBush, you’re wrong, Obama’s BIGGEST transgression is that he has idiots like you as supporters.
It’s that why you support Obama? What has him ever done for any economy? Where did he ever learn anything regarding ECONOMY? His Harvard years of constitution law really made him a specialist on our economy, not!
What had him ever done other than a speech that had show you his ability to handle two wars? Surge? Not!
You’re here selling a guy who’s nothing but a slick salesman and you actually have the guts to turn attention to the war and our economy? Are the Obots suppose to be highly informed? It must be just like Obama’s new politic, another flat out false advertising!!
Thanks to Obama ACORN’s economy is doing great.
great post Ani, y9u put into words what many feel. What an amazing place NQ is and all the loyal writers!! TY to all
McBush this is exactly the game you all played with Hillary and guess what we know the truth looks like your man will need his case on the 4th packed ready to get back to his home turf.
Lifes a bitch and it will pop out and bite u all.
HELL YEA!!
Go Mac/Palin
Gosh, what I wonder is how does Camp Obama poll all of the dead people they’re registering?? I mean do you hold a seance? Call in psychics? When you register these dead people, how do you know that they’ll vote for Barry Soretoro/Dunham/Obama???
Are you five years old? You sound like a child. Grown up.
I have not heard an O-bot say anything positive about Obama, anywhere, for quite some time now. Not the trolls here, not the trolls on conservative sites, and not on their own territory either (Current, Youtube). I post about how McCain-Palin is a huge improvement over Bush-Cheney (blechh!), about McCain’s courage, honor, integrity and service, about Palin’s expertise on energy, how Palin points to a better Republican Party, which will be good for the country.
Notice the O-bots have nothing good to say about Obama — now that Obama has reneged on FISA, NAFTA, healthcare, campaign finance, hope, change, unity. ‘The Leader’ has no clothes on.
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Depravity, Not Decency.
Will Obama be attending Biden’s mother in law funeral? He’ll call it in. Probably he’ll work the phones during the funeral and get a few more supporters. And send an email card. I’m sure Biden will allow him to get 4 funeral principles.
What does this have to do with the topic being discussed? Nothing.
Ani your question at the end is a false argument.
No side is better than the other and we would all be better if we quit thinking it was about sides.
It is about america and making sure her greatness is always there for the world to see.
Left vs. Right is the same as crip vs. blood.
This is not gangwarfare.
This is about making sure our children pick this country up better than those who came before.
The left against right is a false argument. No offense to you at all.
It is just we have to stop pitting americans against americans. it is not who is better.
They both have flaws and they both lie. At the political level. But the average american that is left or right is just trying to make it and put their vote to who can make america better and brighter.
That is why obama pisses me off so much. He is using the emotions of downtrodden americans against other and instigating racial tension and hatred for republicans.
Almost all republicans and dems just average poeple. Not sleazy pols or TV anchors.
I’ve substituted two words in bold to illustrate something:
He is using the emotions of downtrodden Germans against others and instigating racial tension and hatred for Jews.
Sound familiar? It could be straight from a history book. Aren’t we supposed to learn from history?
Paul — I always respect your posts.
Perhaps I didn’t say this properly — but that is exactly my point — no one is better than anyone.
That’s why I changed my voter registration to independent on June 7th.
I made hundreds of get out the vote phone calls across the country and had the privilege of speaking to many wonderful people in all parties in about ten different states.
I was thrilled to find how much we had in common and it is certainly my wish and dream to promote more of this kind of communication.
What I am addressing in my post is that we have an us vs. them mentality — this is particularly coming from the vile behavior of the far left this year and I do not like it or want it to continue.
Wow, fabulous post, Ani. Right on target.
Let’s do all we can to see that ACORN vote stealing won’t work. Let’s take our country back by supporting candidates with the best character and integrity. That’d be John McCain and Sarah Palin.
PUMA!
“Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society.” — Rush Limbaugh
“The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.” — Rush Limbaugh
“They oughtta change Black History Month to Black Progress Month and start measuring it.” — Rush Limbaugh
“This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation…I’m talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You ever heard of the need to blow some steam off?” — Rush Limbaugh on the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal
“We’re not sexists, we’re chauvinists — we’re male chauvinist pigs, and we’re happy to be because we think that’s what men were destined to be. We think that’s what women want.” — Rush Limbaugh
“If I’m going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I’ll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot.” — Ann Coulter
“We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens’ creme brulee. That’s just a joke, for you in the media.” — Ann Coulter
“We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity.” — Ann Coulter
“My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.” — Ann Coulter
“If we took away women’s right to vote, we’d never have to worry about another Democrat president. It’s kind of a pipe dream, it’s a personal fantasy of mine, but I don’t think it’s going to happen. And it is a good way of making the point that women are voting so stupidly, at least single women. It also makes the point, it is kind of embarrassing, the Democratic Party ought to be hanging its head in shame, that it has so much difficulty getting men to vote for it. I mean, you do see it’s the party of women and ‘We’ll pay for health care and tuition and day care — and here, what else can we give you, soccer moms?’”– Ann Coulter
But you are right quotes like “Take her down” and “Make her cry” are worse than anything they have ever said. You guys are pathetic. Besides you calling them “filthy degenerate pustules of the lowest order” makes you more guilty of misandry than they are of misogyny.
I guess this would be important if we were voting for a Limbaugh-Coulter ticket, but since you just pulled those quotes out of your ass, you can shove them right back up there to keep your brains company.
These are all well known quotes and the diarist brought up the point saying people criticizing Palin were saying things worse than anything Limbaugh or Coulter ever said.
You are an idiot to not see the connection between my post and the diary.
I only see a desperate attempt to play tu quoque. Guess what, we already know Limbaugh and Coulter are vile, now we know the Democrat apologists are just as rancid when they spew their racist and sexist trash. That’s the real eye opener and the point of the original diary. Too bad you are too blind to see it.
I guess then you are going to pretend you didn’t read Eve Ensler’s vile piece or some of the other disgusting crud that is circulating around the internet and even on the news about Palin — or you are going to pretend you don’t remember a newscaster saying about Hillary “Someone needs to take her out behind the barn” or all the disgusting names Hillary was called or that someone on Obama’s website talked about ’slitting her throat and throwing her in the trunk of a car?’
We get the message of this post — we don’t need to list every instance of misogyny or misandry — perhaps she didn’t want to repeat all that crap here.
We heard it, we read it and we know it exists. Plenty. Take her down and make her cry were nothing compared to all the other stuff that you are probably saying about Palin yourself.
Stop lying.
In my youth, I figured out that the feminists were probably going to be mostly academics who talked a lot about the topic. I was right. They are talkers. I decided to actually do something different, so I went into corporate and competed. Did OK, too. It was fun, challenging, sexist, but….who cares? When you get that bonus check, who cares?
So I learned….just go do it. Who cares what the “feminists” think.
Their articles on Palin are laughable. They will blush to reread them in years to come. It’s like 1950’s thinking! One was, “Why is the baby up so late?” LOL*
They are just simply nuts.
Oh but she did repeat that crap and it wasn’t anything close to Limbaugh or Coulter.
Oh and your quote about Hillary, “take her out to the barn” is misquoted and misguided. It was a story about Hillary not giving up her campaign even though it was lost and the Dems not wanting it to go on forever. “Those who don’t want it to go on for 30 rounds. Those are the super super super delegates who are going to have to decide this.” “Right someone who can take her into a room and only he comes out.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv9FfZfegNg
It wasn’t about killing or raping it was about ending the primaries. But since it was used in metaphor it is open for interpretation, guess where the minds on this board will go.
Actually my response to Palin has been mirth. There has never been such a blatant grab at a demographic. It may have worked if she wasn’t so unqualified. The only sexism in this campaign has been from McCain shielding her from the media as if she needed to be protected. Besides she is using her femininity and sexuality, winking during the debates. Don’t get me wrong I have said she is stupid, but then again I also called McCain stupid for choosing her instead of a qualified woman, so I guess it isn’t really sexist.
actually it was jesse jackon jr that used the killing and raping metaphor.
Please link, there were his comments questioning when Hillary cried. I think you are reaching.
Hillary never cried.
here’s you link
http://www.zimbio.com/Congressman+Jesse+Jackson+Jr./articles/4/Jesse+Jackson+Factor+Obama+Quest+Presidency
Oh, so I see you believe to wrongs make a right!
I never said it was right I said Ani’s take that,
is wrong and that just because you level accusations of sexism towards someone doesn’t give you a right to call them names in return.
I could not make myself repeat some of the slander in writing that has been said verbally in front of me in re Palin, her baby, her family, her life.
That does not mean it is not happening right here and now. It most assuredly is.
I had every reason for my statement which is and was absolutely on target. If you do not wish to ackowledge that, it is fine.
Palin is AMAZING…but ONLY if you are healthy, happy and a normal human being. If you are an ugly, nasty, filthy, dirty pig, MASQUERADING as a WOMAN, then you will hate Palin. Shame on you scum. I am a woman. I don’t care WHAT her issues with abortion are…I will deal with that. She IS our future POTUS. And if there are a ton of you ugly witches who hate other women…how about you MOVE?
I am astounded by the level of Misogyny directed at Palin.
I understood it when directed at Hillary, as an excuse for any and everything else that was not liked about her.
But both Hillary and Palin have endured abuse simply because of their gender.
A man with the worst character flaws is being more welcome than either of two very capable and intellegent women.
Nice try Johnny but parroting the remarks of ultra-extreme feminists who consider any criticism aimed at a woman as “misogyny” isn’t going to get you laid.
Matchie!!! Such a charmer you are!!!! Ultra-extreme feminists??? Sounds like you’re a little scaredy of the big bad WOOMANN!!! BOO! Poor little bot.
Yeah real scared… where was your huge bounce today?
Matchie you’re sooo scared because the truth about Obama’s friends/terrorists is coming out!!!!!! OH, NOOOOOOO!!! OH, YESSSSS!
Yeah, it worked so well for Hillary. Not too worried about the guilt by association game, McCain has his own board he served on full of racists and guys involved in iran-contra.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBBbUf5BJKY
Also there is the Keating 5, which is certain to play a role with the economy in the tank because of the banks. You tell me if a tenuous relationship with Ayers and whatever outrageous remarks by Rev. Wright are going to do more damage than these?
Do you still have tour hand between your legs playing with Petey and the twins? You pervs are all the same. I can smell you from here.
HARP this Ayers talk has got the Obamabullies out in force! Love it! What you smell is FEAR!!!
Awww, from a bot to a bully. I’m moving up your ladder protest. Pretty soon you are going to miss it when I’m not coming around here.
Don’t get ahead of yourself. LOL you have always been and will continue to be a BOBOweenie.
I’ve always liked your name for them, BOBOweenies! But I didn’t want to steal it from you WildChild, you are the master in my book I bow to your greatness.
Awsome, I’m going to enroll in clown school now and take Boboweenie as my name.
LOL it’s probably a good career move on your part
You can stop fantasizing about me anytime now.
OMG, matchie!! How Obama-like of you…..Narcissist is as Narcissist does!
Why do you assume I am a woman.
I don’t have to assume you are a woman for you to be fantasizing about me.
no, you just had to assume there was a fantasy involved out side of your own.
Keating 5= 4 DEMOCRATS including John Glenn, a Obama surrogate. Glenn and McCain (they had to pull in at least one Republican)were not indicted.
The Weather Underground was Ayers and 10 other anti-war activists whose actions took place when Obama was 8 years old. Obama then served on a board with Ayers with other democrats, republicans and independents working on education reform.
Oh and Ayers is now a Distinguished Professor at the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. You going to contact them about a terrorist working on their staff?
Your point?
BOBO’s BFF Bill Ayers waged war against the USA.
No Worries.
My lovely wife never turns me down!
That one will work. Show her the post.
Johnny.. you can’t be THAT stupid. The only reason Sayrah is on the ticket is because she’s a woman. McDumbo was counting on more idiots like you to vote for him because he chose her. She’s a MORON, but keeping sipping the kool-aid, ignorance is bliss.. or so I’m told. lol
ah, the boboweenie is back to reducing sara to nothing more than a vagina.
Please, please, please make your case for her then. I can appreciate a smart, determined, tough-minded woman. But that aint Sayrah. She’s J-Macs arm candy and women should truly be offended. I mean compare her bonafides to Hill. It’s embarrassingly lop-sided. But go ahead make your case.
Sure you appreciate smart women!!!! Give me a break! And tell me another fairy tale….tell me the one about how you appreciated Hillary Clinton…
hahahaha! My god man, we were here! It was only a few months ago!!!
she’s an elected conservative governor who is one of the few republicans out there not tainted by the actions bush administration these last eight years. That’s huge this year. And, she seems true to her word and her principles.
I saw her in person in Carson California. She is an amazing politician. And unlike Obama, she really connects with the crowd and interacts….you know, THINKS on her feet w/o a teleprompter!!!
AND THE CROWD LOVED HER!
what I find hilarious is that BOBO is running against HER. she commands the stage as well as he does when he is out there alone and compared to this point in his beginning, he was even more bumbling than she was. She’s a much quicker study then the BOBO.
I rest my case.
don’t you have to make one first?
WC–LOL!!!! Good one.
Maybe he meant he was bringing in a case of beer or something…..he couldn’t have meant that he actually had a real legitimate argument…that would be nuts! Wait, he’s and Obamasoretoro bully, my bad!
Does your train of thought have a caboose?
Actually, I think his head is buried in it.
It doesn’t have an engine, either.
Do you REALLY think ANYONE here listens to you?
You’re a sad, lonely, misguided pig.
GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.
Today at a coworkers birthday party (!) the whole gang started in on Palin and McCain, particularly Palin. I won’t even post what they said about her because it’s nothing new. I defended her a little and a bigwig stepped in and started slamming her so I shut up. I couldn’t believe it. I looked around and thought I was surrounded by corporate Obots. Disgusting!! The women were ruthless towards her too. I realized I was the only Republican (former Democrat) among 2 dozen angry Democrats. They were saying how great Tina Fey is mocking Palin, and a bigwig said Letterman is great because he’s all over her. I responded that Letterman’s a cook and he’s lost it. Screw them if they fire me.
Great post Ani.
I have a theory about sexism practiced by other women especially. But bear with my preamble.
I received an anti-Sarah email from my best friend (who live in another state)with this note: “Well put by columnist Geoffrey Rips!” This colimnist refers to Obama as fresh feaced then, true to his name, rips into Sara mentioning her husband’s DUI, her “knocked up” daughter, and other nonsense then ended with this paragraph:
Here’s the sad part — two months ago when my friend visited she admitted she knew absolutely nothing about Obama. Zero. Nada. I filled her in a little.
But now Sara is on the scene my friend is chomping at the bit to tear her down by forwarding articles like this one.
This is how I replied:
My theory:
Too many women are like crabs in a bucket, whenever one crab tries to climb out, the others drag her back in.
The subtext: “How dare you make me look bad by accomplishing something I couldn’t do.”
Don’t get me wrong — I love my friend but I know she has the jealous streak too many women have. .
Too many women have this menatlity that if you dare to stick out (like Hillary, like Sara), they must pound you back in before you overshadow them.
And THIS is why sexism is still gleefully tolerated in this country. Because women are often the biggest anti-women sexists of all.
I think America deserved Obama. The destruction of America is not because of criminals like Obama but it is because of lazy and apathetic people.
Excellent post Ani. It reflects so many of my own thoughts and feelings about this election. Thanks for writing it.
Ani,
In this election, I first time observed that Americans can be ugly, unfair, nasty, dishonest, brutal, senseless, unjust, and cruel to the extreme. I have seen people hating others similarly during the Cultural Revolution in China.
I also learned from the Cultural Revolution that evil may prevail sometimes, but it will not last forever.
Ani, I am quite depressed now but I will never give up the important things: be honest, be fair, be kind, be patient.
Obama is just doing exactly that. He’s as bad as Mao. Manipulated the youth, and use their enthusiasm for his own political gain. The youth are always most susceptible to such manipulation. The learn enough in school, but yet to be able to tell the difference reality and lies without real life experience. Having grew up in China, Obama really give me the chill.
Check out about this creepy book I found over at aol online poll.
http://www.uncorrelated.com/2008/10/welcome_to_the_banana_republic.html#more
Maybe share on an open thread instead of here on this post where this is unrelated?
Bethtopaz,
The book is very creepy, beyond what I can believe.
Welcome to the People’s Republic of America under the Age of Obama.
The left produces more of its fair share of scum than the right. They can be some of the nastiest people around.
I’ll never forget, 9/11 - I went over to a friends house and there were some people there that I knew and were friendly with, all leftists, but it didn’t matter at the time because I wasn’t particularly political back then.
I was in shock and very upset. I had figured everyone else would be too. So we all sat there and I was feeling emotional and just as I opened my mouth to voice my anger and hatred for these b*stards, a girl there that I knew said, gleefully:
“Well I just think it’s great, you know, that they can do something like that, to show those greedy capitalists that they’re not invincible.”
I walked out of that room and never came back. It was at that moment that my sheer hatred of the leftist mindset began and I’ve been exploring and studying their depravity and ignorance ever since.
Stupid dumb ass is probably also walking around with a $300 iPod, brought to her by the horrible capitalist American system. What idiots!
I remember 9/11, too. I was watching NBC. Soon after the second plane hit and everybody in the world knew that we were under attack by terrorists, Katie Couric was interviewing a counterterrorism expert who said probably the most unbelievably stupid thing I’d ever heard (quoting from memory here) - “I wouldn’t jump to any conclusions, Katie. This might not be a terrorist attack at all”. That “expert”’s name? Larry C Johnson.
This whole election cycle has been very disillusioning and painful. I am completely in limbo and disconnected from what I thought I believed and knew. The “progressive” mask has been ripped off and beneath it is more hatred than I ever saw from the right. I hear my friends talk about Sarah Palin and I’m shocked. It is so ugly and hateful that they look different to me now. I can’t hang out with most of them because I can’t stand the conversation anymore. It actually hurts me. And many of these people had hypocritical and uninformed criticisms of HIllary as well. Just irrational sexism and misogyny. It stunned me. I’m not sure how all of us that feel lost and deeply disillusioned will get through this or where we’ll be when enough time has passed. Everything looks very different now. I hope you’ll keep writing about your personal experience regarding the loss of our illusions about the “progressive” party. Your words help me. Thanks.
The left is bitter and twisted. Leftists get more so as they get older and they realize that their perception of human nature is wrong. They become particularly angry at the working classes, whom they always saw as the ideal beneficiaries of their attempts at socialist revolution. Slowly, it occurs to them that the working man doesn’t want to be enslaved to the “common plan” of socialism - he wants to be independent and free, to climb the economic ladder, to buy property and start his own business. On the whole, he aspires to be wealthy and he doesn’t despise those who have already achieved it.
This enrages leftists as they get older. They can’t believe that the proletariat are so ungrateful to them. They seethe at the thought that the average person doesn’t want to have his or her life mapped out and controlled by demented socialists like themselves.
What’s particularly funny is when they call themselves “progressive”. I fail to see what’s so “progressive” about an ideology which was exposed as a failure 30-40 years ago.
You know the pompous little holier-than-thou leftists who tap away on their laptops in Starbucks with their $5 latte next to them? Give them a Marxist revolution and they would be the FIRST to put on the uniforms and peaked caps and herd the insubordinate masses into the Gulag. They’re not “kind” or “caring” at all. They hold mankind in deep contempt.
After some years of observation I have come to this conclusion - conservatives tend to be hard on the outside but soft on the inside. With leftists, it’s the opposite. Many of them have swinging bricks in place of hearts.
I think you’ve described Perry very well.
And don’t forget the USA. They hold this nation in contempt too.
I’m going through the same thing, so your not alone.
Don’t grieve. Think of it as an awakening. The mud is out of our eyes and we’re seeing leftist thug extremist wackos for who they really are. This is a renaissance of conservative values and a rejection of the narcissistic, hedonistic, marxist, nihilist and any other negative “ist” thugs who have hijacked the Democrat Party. They’re destroying what the party originally stood for from the inside out.
(CBS) In a sign that the race for president has returned to about where it was before the first presidential debate, the Obama-Biden ticket leads the McCain-Palin ticket 47 percent to 43 percent among registered voters in a new CBS News poll.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/06/opinion/polls/main4504633.shtml
Thank heavens - the momentum is shifting back towards McCain perhaps!
A whopping 20% in the CBS poll have not committed to a candidate.
Rassmussen has that number at still large 14%.
I have never seen a pool of this many voters still up for grabs 4 weeks before the GE.
It may partially be “The Bradley Effect” because Obama has 8% in the Rasmussen saying they may change their vote. Double that of McCain.
That is astonishing to me.
People are telling Pollsters they will vote for Obama because they are tired of being called Racist.
But their preference, according to the polls, is very soft.
Thank you Ani for your eloquent remarks. You most certainly are not alone!
There have been times in my life (the death of my beloved mother in particular) when my Internet friends have been a reliable and much-needed source of sense, wisdom, good will and more.
I have a very tenuous relationship with a female friend who dismisses Gov. Palin as ignorant white trash and can’t say enough horrible things about her. It’s ugly and absolutely sickening and the friendship is virtually over. It would take some serious back-peddling and a$$-kissing on her part before I would even consider resuming a relationship with her. Luckily most of my friends feel the same way I do and admire and respect Gov. Palin’s talents and achievements.
I really do think the vicious attacks prove how threatened these people are, which is no small consolation!
God Bless, Hillary. She will not be suckered into bashing Sarah just because Sarah carries an “R” behind her name:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=93e_1223050306
Whooo…hoooo!
Hillary sent out a fund raising email recently. And it was not for Obama but a down ticket Dem.
The only e-mails I’ve gotten from Hillary lately are requesting donations for down ticket dems. I have been getting all kinds of e-mails from other Dems requesting donations for the DNC. I sure hope that they didn’t get my e-mail from Hillary. They could have got it from some of the Super Delegates I sent e-mails to throughout the primaries.
I appreciate the honesty and introspectiveness of this post. To me, progressive politics suffer from a more fundamental flaw: using government to take money at gunpoint and redistribute it. There’s a built in, ends-justify-the-means mentality. Why should we be surprised that Obama’s thugs are this way?
OK you need to stop with the redistribution of money line of bullshit. Anytime you buy or sell anything your money was just redistributed. and then it’s redistributed again….and again…..and again…
The difference being - on the free market, your money is redistributed voluntarily. Humans are traders - they trade values. Within capitalism, humans trade of their own volition to each others mutual benefit. It sees mankind as a society of free traders
Socialist redistribution is not voluntary. It’s the act of plundering at gunpoint - i.e. criminal thuggery. Socialists see mankind as a society of producers and parasites. Their ideal is to have one man enslaved to the wants and needs of another. It’s grotesque.
Then there is no difference. Your taxes are paid voluntarily since they were raised with your consent. The real difference is you have no duty as a citizen to buy and sell, but you do have a duty to support your country with cold hard cash.
No, my taxes are NOT paid voluntarily. They are paid with a gun to my head. Don’t believe me? Think what ultimately happens if I don’t pay my taxes and resist all the government’s attempts to force me. Ultimately I go to jail. If I don’t want to go to jail and defend my life, what happens to me?
I may have a duty to support my country with cash, but not in the form of wealth redistribution. The only proper role of the state is to protect the individual rights of its citizens. That means: national defense, law enforcement and a system of justice. It doesn’t mean: transferals of wealth from one citizen to another.
If I had the choice not to pay taxes that were going to be squandered on things aside from defense and law, I wouldn’t pay them. So they are not “voluntary” at all.
The tax are used for the safety of everyone as well as the way of life for us.
Can you imagine what the had not will do if over 50% of the country live in poverty? Why do you think some countries turned to communism? When the poorest of the country is not taking care of, there will be riot and no one is safe. Most of the rich in this country aren’t as stingy as you think. So long as the govt don’t waste tax dollars, it’s not an issue.
You may not notice this, but the USA is more socialist than China is today.
We need to give everyone a chance to succeed. A peaceful and prosperous society is in the interest of everyone.
Obama isn’t for social justice. He’s a spending and tax nut. He will run the economy to the ground with his approach in this economic hardship.
Jason, the welfare state for the common citizen [as distinct from the welfare state for corporations and fat cats, much of which is the real purpose of "defense" spending] was not invented out of misguided compassion, or out of any sort of compassion.
It was invented to keep desperate masses of poor folks from invading the estates of the rich and decapitating the residents.
It was invented to prevent revolution.
I consider that a bargain, and yes, I also pay taxes.
Even if the police and military forces are so efficient that I need never worry about crime and revolution, it still serves my enlightened self-interest to support the welfare state [for the common citizen] for two other reasons:
[1] I might need its services someday; anyone can have a run of bad luck.
[2] Even if I never need it personally and revolution will never happen–poor people, on the average, are less healthy than the rest of us. Hence, epidemics start and spread more readily among them. Once those epidemics get started, they have this nasty habit of breaking out into the general population, and disease germs don’t give a damn whether I–or YOU–are a hard worker or a layabout. To the germs, I–and YOU–are LUNCH.
I absolutely knew it was sheer sexism in the primary. Democrats said it was THAT woman, but that’s incorrect. So the sexism toward Palin is not unexpected to me.
However, it is what it is, and who cares, anyway? The best revenge in life is living well, and Palin had a blast at that debate. She’s having a blast now. And even though Hillary lost, it was a pleasure watching her show them all what’s what. She won the popular vote, and they knew it.
Palin’s crowds are huge. And she’s getting the message out, doing a great job for Mac. And they know it.
The sexism will stop when it no longer means squat. When the person espousing it simply looks like the one who came out of the trailer and still doubts those pictures of man walking on the moon.
Then, and only then, will be stop. And of course, by then, nobody will care.
Annin.. you know I respect where you’re coming from, but sexism?? McIdiots picking her as his VP candidate was the ULTIMATE act of sexism. She’s brain-dead. In that debate she memorized talking points, didn’t answer direct questions and showed a lack of knowledge on every issue INCLUDING energy. If she has become the new martyr for sexism then all of you have truly lost credibility.
She;a an elected governor. LOL She’s not brain dead. And she’s more polished after a few months on the campaign trail then BOBO was ofter a few months on his campaign trail.
Yeah you’re right let’s just forget about how J-Mac wouldnt let her answer a single question for about a month. And when she did, she made herself into the butt of every late night comedians jokes. Real polished.
You ever done anything similar? Trust me. You can’t memorize it.
You have to be fluid and responsive. I think I saw 2 questions where she didn’t really answer the actual question. But even so, there’s no question that she had a great debate.
Part of intelligence is knowing how to use the format to deliver your message, too, remember.
Brain dead? That’s funny, because she’s a hell of a lot more qualified to run this country than Barak “law degree” Obama!
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I see BOBO is pushing open racism now. LOL he must be out of card stock.
What do you mean “now”? Has 0bama ever campaigned on any other issue?
If you act like an ass, don’t get insulted if people ride you.
About the polls…. for the trolls….
We do watch the polls here, but we also analyze them.
Unlike Obots, we are not brain dead.
On Rassmussen TODAY:
Up until two weeks ago, “Leaners” were being tallied with “Undecideds”. Now, the leaners are being tallied with the candidates hard support.
Both Rassmusen and Gallup have 8% of Obamas vote as “Leaners”.
On Rasmussen Today:
In 2004, Bush had 51% of the vote, including “leaners” on Oct 9, and 10. Bushes support shrank only to 50% on Oct 22.
Kerry pulled within 0.4% of Bush by Oct 31, 2004.
On Oct 6, 2004, without Leaners, Bush had 47.2%.
On Oct 6, 2008, without Leaners, Obama has 44.0%, McCain 42%.
A whopping 14% of voters as of TODAY say they are undecided, or may change their mind.
The vote has not yet solidified.
Tomorrows debate is critical, and McCain and Obama both know it.
Obama is such a weak candidate he’s such an empty suit. Can’t get anything done in his whole life and can’t close the deal, whata loozzzer!
Looks like this deal is closed, my friend.
The very latest national polls:
CNN: OBAMA +8
Gallup Tracking: OBAMA +8
Rasmussen Tracking: OBAMA +8
GW/Battleground Tracking: OBAMA +7
NBC News/Wall Street Journal: OBAMA +6
Hotline/FD Tracking: OBAMA +6
Unidentified Bowel Movement—you mean closed like it was for Gore and Kerry?? More spinning from the MSM to sell us on the idea it’s over.
The tide is turning again UBM.
As a former democrat and Gore/Kerry supporter I thought they had it wrapped up at this point and was sorely disappointed.
The CBS poll today shows tightening.
Obama has peaked too soon and now faces the onslaught of scrutiny about his past.
The missing years will show that he was in fact a black panther.
You should have wished for McCain winning at this point. Instead all focus will be on Obama and his radical associations and the democrats that caused our economic debacle…Enjoy!!
Those polls count leaners.
On Oct 6, 2008, without Leaners, Obama has 44.0%, McCain 42%.
A whopping 14% of voters as of TODAY say they are undecided, or may change their mind.
Ani this is a beautifully written piece.
Keep fighting the good fight.
remember what goes up must come down and that includes obama and his robots who think repetitive screeds pass as thinking
I spoke to a friend today who is for Obama and said he HATES Palin.
He is not political junkie, so i said why? Because Keith O,Tina Fey, and comedians and liberals make fun of her small town roots and that she is not from an elite college?
I said to him, what do you think these poeple would think of you(or me)? We both our from a small town in central pa who did not graduate.
I said were the same as her, except she went from the PTA to the City council to Mayor of her town to the governor of her state.
Palin is middle america.
I told him, if they dislike her for being from a small town and not going to an elite school, what do they think of you? the exact same thing they do of her.
They are not for the middle class, that is just classs warfare. When a middle class women like Palin(who by the way would qualify under Obama’s robin hood tax plan) is shredded for just being an everday american who made it on hardwork it shows who they are and how they really think.
He was with his girlfriend and i asked him what she thinks of her. He said she likes her, but i knew he was just saying that so i would not go off about her.
I said look, she should like her. Palin is the same as us with alot more hard work and bit more of an opportunity. She should look at her as role model for small town women.
Sarah Palin makes angry leftists sick because she destroys every argument they have.
She is middle america. she is a women who made a choice and erred on the side of life.
Sarah Palin makes me proud, even though i feel down about obama now and then. SHe is a beacon of hope that the ideals of america and the hope that anyone can be anything with hard work. She embody’s what is good in america.
Shame on any liberal who trashes hher, their just showing their own asses and how they really view small town americans.
Ani, Thanks for the post. You described my experience as well. The Eve Ensler piece was disgusting. The first response I gave was (I thought) polite, reasoned and, just as I used to post on Huff & Puff about Hillary, a request for civility toward other women…even those with whom we don’t agree. Eve Ensler and Gloria Steinem don’t do my thinking for me.
One (the son of the woman who originated the post) responded with a vile insult to me. Thankfully he doesn’t know me or where I live. Three others responded in the same way and haven’t heard from them again.
The kicker though was from a woman I’ve known for many years, owns her own business and next sent me a freaked out email about the economic meltdown…as in “How Could This Happen?” I responded with the ACORN story, etc. Then she said: “Oh, come on. How could anyone get a mortgage without a credit record?” What can you do but laugh. They’re uninformed, self absorbed and can’t think outside the box. Bless their little pea pickin’ hearts.
Well, when the subprime loans were beeing issued at full speed, from 1999 - 2006, I and many of my peers, could not understand how so many people were qualifying for $500, - $1,000,000 dollar homes.
Even with 50 year mortgages, and ARM’s, it just did not make sense. There weren’t that many people in income brackets that could support that size of a loan.
The numbers did not add up demographically. Only 5% of the public had the inome to pay on the median price home.
How the hell were they buying them?
Now we know.
They could not pay for the loan, and now we all are going to pay for them.
Palin may turn off the Washington elite, but isn’t that what we want and need. A FRESH START.
What is somewhat disturbing to me besides association of Ayers with Barack, which is HUGE, is the fact that it points out that a man as radical as Ayers is teaching our college kids and there are many more out there in our schools and these kids are going out into the world and another generation and we won’t even recognize America. I am glad I will hopefully be in heaven by then but sorry for my grandchildren who won’t get to experience the freedoms I grew up with. So sad.
“Just because neo-cons hijacked the Republican Party eight years ago, if the far left hijacks the Democrats, will that lead to a better end? Again, no.”
I think this is what we are seeing - the Dems being hijacked by their extremists.
I have been amazed by the degree of hatred directed at Gov. Palin. I think she is too attractive and too vibrant to be ’serious’. You have to be east coast elite to qualify for their club. (I don’t mind dissing this attitude because I am east coast ivy.)You have to be slightly boring to be considered intellectual. Frankly, I think the intellectuals have done a fine job of ruining things.
The way Hillary was treated really hit home to me. It was what I had experienced my whole life, the worst being from women in the work world.
Why don’t women realize that the hatred is directed at them also, if they should dare to achieve; and the men at their sisters if they don’t toe the line?
I spoke to a friend today who is for Obama and said he HATES Palin.
He is not political junkie, so i said why? Because Keith O,Tina Fey, and comedians and liberals make fun of her small town roots and that she is not from an elite college?
I said to him, what do you think these poeple would think of you(or me)? We both our from a small town in central pa who did not graduate.
I said were the same as her, except she went from the PTA to the City council to Mayor of her town to the governor of her state.
Palin is middle america.
I told him, if they dislike her for being from a small town and not going to an elite school, what do they think of you? the exact same thing they do of her.
They are not for the middle class, that is just classs warfare. When a middle class women like Palin(who by the way would qualify under Obama’s robin hood tax plan) is shredded for just being an everday american who made it on hardwork it shows who they are and how they really think.
He was with his girlfriend and i asked him what she thinks of her. He said she likes her, but i knew he was just saying that so i would not go off about her.
I said look, she should like her. Palin is the same as us with alot more hard work and bit more of an opportunity. She should look at her as role model for small town women.
Sarah Palin makes angry leftists sick because she destroys every argument they have.
She is middle america. she is a women who made a choice and erred on the side of life.
Sarah Palin makes me proud, even though i feel down about obama now and then. SHe is a beacon of hope that the ideals of america and the hope that anyone can be anything with hard work. She embody’s what is good in america.
Shame on any liberal who trashes hher, their just showing their own asses and how they really view small town americans.
it should be did not graduate from college.
I think a lot of people just like to identify with being liberal because they think it is elitist. Often, if you try to talk about issues, they actually are fairly ill-informed.
In defense of Sarah - tonight on Rachel Maddow’s pathetic show, Pat Buchanan not only defended Sarah against Maddow’s attacks, but gave Sarah Palin full credit for McCain not being 20 points behind in the polls. He accused Maddow of being blind to the obvious - people are flocking to see Sarah Palin.Maddow couldn’t get Buchanan to agree with her on a single anti-Palin remark. Way to go, Pat Buchanan.
Buchanan is one of the better conservative voices in the media.
Now that’s hilarious A. Pat Buchanan is another fool. When he ran for President he was as far right as you could get. He was Rush’s bosom buddy. Now he’s a good guy??? First Fox, then Hannity, now Buchanan?? You all have truly sold your souls. There is no one, and I mean no one who has insulted Hillary more than these guys.
Change is the only constant in life!
We understand that the democrat party has been hijacked by the radical left which has a Chavez agenda for ending our way of life.
Obviously you’re on the Anti-American side
So true That’s why my patriotic vote will go for change. I love America. America love it or leave it. God bless you all and God bless America. There… did I hit all the repub notes. How about this God bless this world we live in. I think that’s better.
Please leave it, and take Obama and the rest of the Obots with you.
At least I don’t mock my country like you do.
Seattle you’re a fool. America doesn’t exist in vaccum as J-Mac seems to think we do. I mock the repugs and people like you who think that if I and others don’t believe as you do that we’re less than patriotic, love this country less than you do. I don’t believe any of you could have ever been democrats. You were Hillocrats on loan to the democratic party. Now scurrying back like cockroaches to the repug party.
Mc
Just in case you wondered…
We are FDR/Reagan/Clinton/McCain Democrats.
We decide every election!
Your democrat selection doesn’t meet the min requirements for the job of president.
We are looking for a much better experienced candidate in a time great of crisis.
We are looking for a candidate with core values and convictions that have passed many laws and stood behind them despite opposition.
We are looking for a candidate that values country before party, country before self.
We want a candidate who will defend America and will never surrender and will never cause America to be humiliated.
John McCain won the Iraq war for America!
Obama wished defeat for America and therefore is disqualified from being president by the voters who decide all elections.
What pray tell did we win:
1) Over 4,000 Americans dead and countless Irag innocent civillians.
2) A stronger and more powerful and influential Iran.
3) $10 billion a week in taxpayer money
Yeah score one for McCain.
Oh and btw, you won’t decide this election.
Iraq is a Brilliant Strategy!!
I was originally against it..
We have Iran surrounded on two sides. The Russians are unable to advance past Georgia. We have two allies Iraq and Israel that insures that there will be no resource wars or control of the middle east outside of America’s sphere of influence.
Not to mention that the Stalinist Saddam is gone and eventually the Iraqi’s will be rich and free.
I’m sure you enjoy material goods.Without the western world controlling vital resources and preventing terrorism you have nothing
McBush believes that O’barky will pay for that “Affordable” loan that McBush defaulted on, and that O’barky will pay off his credit card debt for good measure.
Whatsamatta McBushie Boy,did the mean credit companie make you buy a lot of stuff you did not need and can’t afford?
Those big businesses are sooo mean that way. They force you to do all kinds of bad things that you don’t want to do.
ever notice whenever the truth starts coming out against Obama, or his campaign gets caught off guard, his supporters go absolutely batshit?
it is kind of sad to watch, but angers me that at one time this was my party.
As a mother of two daughters, Palin is just about the only national figure these days that is a decent role model.
She gets my vote, and my respect. Her positive approach is contagious, and makes me think there is still hope for America, and for my daughers’ future
Go Palin (and McCain). The HONORABLE ticket.
Yeah so true.. I mean Hill smart, knowledgeable, accomplished. Versus Sayrah dumb, shallow, sex as a weapon (wink, wink) yeah I want my daughters to grow up JUST like her.
And yet, Obama and the new Obamacrats threw Hillary under the bus and treat her like scum, except when they want to trot her out as a Stepford Wife Supporter of BO.
Riiiiight. The Democrats are clueless when it comes to the value of Hillary who has more integrity in one of her hang nails than BO has is his entire body.
I’ve noticed that whenever someone brings up Obama’s ties to some shady people…the bots do in fact go BATSHIT GOO-GOO!
Do they forget that they went batshit over Cheney’s associations? I suppose those were Innocent also.
By the way….
REZCO IS TALKING! Better hope Obama has a good Lawyer!
It is my sincere hope that J-Mac continues with this course for the next 30 days. Please talk about Wright, Rezko, Ayers, the tape, the gay guy, porn on the plane, and whatever else they can think of BESIDES the economy, healthcare and any other substantive issue. It’s surely a losing proposition. The only people who care about such fantasies at this point are people like you.. too ignorant to know any better with thoughts only of winning rather than finding solutions. Good luck with that.
I think you should start thinking about getting a real job.
The party is over!
Hasn’t anyone told you.. The bailout is costing a trillion and there is no more money for all these programs that you want..
I supported these programs at one time.
However, tax increases at this time will cause the greatest of depressions
http://townhall.com/Columnists/DavidRStokes/2008/10/05/fdr_and_the_great_deflation
8 years of the stupidest (”just one of guys, just like you”) Presidents will do that to a country. Sound familiar - Sayrah.
I vote for experience!
I never voted for Bush because of his lack of experience and will not vote for Obama for the same reason.
As for this debacle..I blame the misguided good intentions of the democrats that caused the subprime meltdown.
Ridiculous article. None of the criticisms cited by the author have anything to do with Sarah Palin being a woman.
What does the word depravity have to do with sexism? She is on the receiving end of plenty of sexist attacks and every other kind that you can name. This is not about sexism alone.
Just about the disgusting treatment of a politician, where as the opposition doesn’t get dealt any of that. How is that so hard to understand?
Oh, man, that’s rough. Your neighbor actually said Biden was “slaughtering” Palin in the VP debate? S/he really used a completely common expression to describe a situation in which one person is completely outclassing another? I don’t know how you live with all the misogyny. Really, I just don’t.
So let me get this straight — you read everything disgusting that was said about her in the article and you also read the Eve Ensler piece and now you are picking one relatively mild phrase out of the whole thing, ignoring the rest - along with the other tripe you know that is being said in the media, and probably by people you know, which I did not lower myself to list — and arrived at the false conclusion that there is no misogyny.
Brilliant deductive reasoning.
Try the truth. It works better.
By the way, the best known Congressman, Charles Rangel fro NY, being on the news and calling her ‘disabled’ is not good old fashioned sexism and woman hating?
Great piece, Ani. I had a bit of heated debate with a coworker recently in which I expressed similar sentiments, but nowhere near as eloquently.
I received my absentee voter ballot in the mail today and did what I never thought I would do: I voted for a Republican, John McCain. There’s an odd sense of liberation; I no longer have to do what, as a Democrat, I’m supposed to do. The files in my head that tell me how to think about the candidates and the issues are no longer automatically downloaded in batches from the head office, i.e., the DNC. We’re the good guys now–not the Republicans and certainly not the Democrats anymore, but rather those of us who care enough to truly think for ourselves and look beyond the media snowjob.
Ani, I have a peripheral “friend” who emailed me the same article by the writer of “The Vagina Monologs”. I wrote back that it was hyperbolic b.s. and sent a REAL feminist (who’s actually done something besides writing fiction) article back to her (Dr. Long). Well, actually, I sent that to her entire distribution. heh, heh
Back in the early 80’s, I managed a small apartment complex that she and her husband owned. Back then, this woman would not have permitted my renting an apartment to Barack Obama.
What’s up is down. What’s black is white.
If Obama wins, his obnoxious supporters had better learn to STFU or they will spark a devastating backlash against their candidate and his party in 2010 and 2012.
Great article, Ani
Thank you.
Oh please stop whining about alleged misogyny. When one treats the office of the presidency like a backwards wilderness reality show (like ms.Sentence to Nowhere) has attempted to do, people aren’t going to take you or your candidacy seriously.
She is mocked and laughed at because she demeans herself with the hick speech and the ‘I’m -proud-to-be- a- backwater- hillbilly-no-nothin’ attitude concerning national and foreign affairs.It has nothing to do with her gender but all to do with her lack of insight in regard to the electorate, inept lack of capability and savoir-faire, and being culturally oblivious to the sophishication and education of many (especially Obama supporters)in the lower 48. Thank God the joke is almost over.
I was close tears when I read Ani’s post because she expresses my feelings exactly. I can’t believe the pure nastiness and mean spiritedness that is running rampant in this great country of ours right now. It truly sickens me.
Thank God for sites such as No Quarter which provides a haven for those who actually see what is happening.
Culturally left elitists despise anyone not of their ilk. Bill Clinton is a neanderthal in their eyes, so where do the rest of the “great unwashed” stand? The Christian right sometimes accuses these leftists of being evil, and this year the latter appears to have proven the former correct. In the eyes of the cultural far left, you are apparently a deserving minority or deprived gender only if you hold to the proper dogma. Otherwise, you are subhuman and to be annhilated. And this bunch doesn’t have enough subtlety to keep quiet about their hatred. Can you imagine Darth Cheney sputtering such venom in public?
This Forbes article shows another reason that I had not thought of. The elites hate her because they are lazy and Sarah is not. She probably gets more done before 8:00am than they do all day.
These creeps are no liberals. They are fauxgressives. These creeps are also trashing Cynthia McKinney (Green Party presidental candidate)
with sexist and surprise, surprise real racist attacks. Never mind, unlike Obama, McKinney has experienced real racism- she marched in Civil Rights marches as a child with her father. She was harassed by DC capital policemen for not wearing her congressional pin- no man of any color was treated that way, but the sexism mixed with racism- a middle aged AA woman was an “outsider”.
The Obots smear her a “crazy” for going public about that treatment- ala “making something out of ‘nothing’”, but the least criticism- and truthful at that- of their god Obama and they scream “racism” from the rooftops. They also have tried to smear her as anti semitic and she’s not.
Our financial advisor, during a recent meeting, started to make a joke about “Trig’s” college fund. I told him not to. I don’t think I’ll retain his services.
Oh, I should mention that the only person of color at my advisor’s 20-plus person firm is the receptionist. While our company has a record of hiring 30% AA (and the job we hire for is the same job for everyone–the pay is identical). We walk the walk. He is fond of prefacing his remarks with “When Barack is president…” It’s the white guilt trip –these “faux-liberals” have few or no AA associations and may secretly be racists. They think if they vote for Obama their racism will be absolved.
The Obama trolls are all over the polls, but I did not see them mention the last Zogby poll! This is a daily tracking poll of the last three days and involved 1237 likely voters. It has Obama leading 47.7 to 45.3 for McCain. This is a difference of 2.4%, with 7% unsure. Obama was leading with women by a vote of 51 to 42 For McCain, with men McCain leads by 49 to 45%, with whites McCain leads by 55 to 39%, wuth AA Obama leads by 90% (did not give a number for McCain), with Hispanc’s it was 57 to 30 for Obama. Many of the polling numbers that are “thrilling” the Obama trolls are not majors and I did not jot down some of the break down numbers, but many of them showed the Number of Democrats polled against the number of Republicans and Independents was as high as 12% more Deemocrats in the polls. This has got to give you a distorted number!