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Open Thread * Obama Can Try to Run But He Can’t Hide

While Sarah Palin continues her assault on Obama’s lies about his extensive, long-term associations with Bill Ayers, the Obama campaign is madly scrambling and is now claiming that, in the mid-1990s, Obama had no knowledge of Bill Ayers’ background. See The Page’s story, “Axelrod Says Obama Was In the Dark.”

If any of you believe that, I’ve got a mansion you can’t afford to sell you. But, I know that you know that makes no sense at all.

One blog has gone to a great deal of effort to explore the contemporaneous news atmosphere circa mid-1990s in the Chicago area, where both Obama and Ayers resided at the time, and to point out that it is impossible for Obama not to have been aware.

Check out Red State’s “In 1996, Media Coverage of Bill Ayers Was Too Extensive to Believe Obama Did Not Know Who Ayers Was.”

ALSO: Stay tuned for Steve Diamond’s latest devastating attack on the New York Times’s failure to report the full Obama/Ayers story … we’re posting it soon …

What else is going on today? The markets don’t look too hot.

OPEN THREAD!

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P.S. About that “mansion you can’t afford,” see especially these stories:

P.P.S. Also check out Medusa’s great essay, “The UnDemocratic Party: The New Culture War pt 2.”

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Comment by wodiej | 2008-10-06 11:48:30

SHIT IS HITTING THE FAN NOW….

Comment by Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion, Proprietor of the NQ Popcorn Concession | 2008-10-06 11:50:49

It is Baracktoberfest after all. ;)

 

Comment by MikeG | 2008-10-06 11:58:03

[Admin. Edited: Comment removed. Inappropriate, homophobic comment]

Comment by wry | 2008-10-06 12:04:56

No…but I’d like to know who Barky was involved with in New York while at Columbia. He’s 47 years old and there’s never been ONE lover mentioned from his past.
Isn’t that strange?

Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-10-06 12:06:21

Comment by Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion, Proprietor of the NQ Popcorn Concession | 2008-10-06 12:14:30

This begs the question do we have the right to know a presidential candidate’s HIV status?

Comment by PhxNickD | 2008-10-06 12:20:19

Not that it matters and I do not condone outing anyone’s HIV status, but everything about a potential president should be known.

 

Comment by tzada | 2008-10-06 13:03:23

He does look skinny and unhealthy. Why only show a one page medical and was mental included? How about a drug report on all 4?

 
 

Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-10-06 12:30:29

sorry admin for inappropriate comment.

 
 

Comment by PamFlorida | 2008-10-06 12:33:57

I don’t care about his love interests. I want to know where are all of his friends? Don’t you find it strange that a 47 year old man, who went to 3 universities, lived in 5 major cities, was a community organizer and an Illinois senator, has no friends eager to publicly vouch for him?

Comment by Liz B | 2008-10-06 12:44:11

When you have an ego like Obama’s, you don’t have friends. When you have the background of Obama, what friends you might have, you don’t want mainstream America to know about. I would like to see the Hannity report on the “Unaccounted for” years. If anybody can expose the dirt, it is Sean.

Comment by csuzeq | 2008-10-06 13:24:08

Rumor has it that Hannity has an FBI file on Obama that isn’t too great for the candidate. I don’t know for sure it is true, but I am hoping!

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2008-10-06 16:54:04

please, let that be true.

 
 

Comment by Kathleen | 2008-10-06 13:54:01

No. Obama has been groomed by Brezinski, Ayres, Wright to move with meteoric speed into power since the day he met Brezinski at Columbia Univ. while BO was a student and Brezinski was a professor. He’s their front man. They are his friends. He will help them realize their agenda for a socialist America and one world government.

To keep the truth from being told about who he really is, he couldn’t afford to fraternize with average people who might take issue and ask questions about his association with the likes of Ayres and Wright. Heck, even Oprah left Wright’s church because she did not approve of his message, but Obama stayed.

Obama = Manchurian Candidate.

Comment by lastlemming | 2008-10-06 21:55:17

Actually I think the machine planned to run Blagojevich but when it was clear B would be indicted, went to their second choice. That’s why Obama seems to be unusually strange as a candidate. I don’t think he ever thought he would do anything more than local (eg mayoral) politics. He has a good web of friends to go places in Chicago.

 
 
 

Comment by JP49 | 2008-10-06 13:26:17

Obama has a lot of friends. Did anyone see Hannity’s report. Outstanding. Its just that Obama doesn’t want to admit to the friends he has, all America haters.

 

Comment by vinnie | 2008-10-06 15:12:41

I find it odd too. Not ONE friend who comes out to say “Barry and I used to…”

 

Comment by Brendy | 2008-10-06 15:35:07

I find it VERY strange and VERY interesting that his white grandma or his sister is NEVER in the picture; they’ve never even been photographed have they? Does Obummer have any other family - nieces, nephews? And I don’t want to hear about his grandma being old or ’sick’ - McCain’s MOM is 95 YEARS OLD AND SHE ALWAYS AROUND.

Besides, Obummer was RAISED by his white grandma; you’d think HE would want her around him during this historical and exciting time of his life. Maybe he’s afraid his family members might acidentally mention something that Obummer doesn’t want us to know!

Are the majority of Americasn in this country THAT stupid (or selfish - ‘thinking’ they’re going to a ‘free ride’ with Obummer) that they are willing to OVERLOOK his secret and mysterious past, along with his KNOWN corrupt, dangerous, racist past?

 
 

Comment by tek | 2008-10-06 12:38:48

He lived with a white woman in Chicago until he left for Columbia. They were never married. Rumor has it they had two children.

Comment by AyersIsMyDaddy | 2008-10-06 12:42:03

 
 

Comment by Soldier of Christ | 2008-10-06 12:50:45

He was too busy planning the radical takeover of our country. Don’t all terrorist plan ahead? Well, so do radicals. I thought he was married around 1995 with Michelle. The years 18-until he married is SURE MISSING….Let me see…we know Palin’s life….18- present…so why don’t we know Obama’s? Because he has used socialist tactics forcing the media to shut their mouth and follow his commands. I guess the media has sold their soul to the messiah because they have made it a point not to “fish or search” the records. The end of journalist. Wait until “freedom of speech” is removed from them. You will see a bunch of them screaming and ranting- but it will be too late.

 
 
 

Comment by Liz B | 2008-10-06 13:04:37

I was just reading some posts from the Stealing Ohio thread and it occurred to me, two can play this game…if homeless can go to Ohio to vote for Barack, then why can’t homeless go to Ohio and vote for McCain?
I live a couple of hours away from Ohio, and I don’t have any problem anymore with playing dirty right back…at the very least, if we countered the effort, in an organized way, it would cause the Election results to be frozen and the courts to have to step in, manual vote counts in every state, if necessary. Sometimes you must push back.

Comment by savage | 2008-10-06 13:07:37

that would make you a felon. but do what you need to do I guess. you sure are patriot.

 

Comment by Maverick | 2008-10-06 14:00:36

Go Liz! Fight fire with fire. Don’t forget to bring packs of cigarettes as bribes and coupons for steak dinners.

 

Comment by athena | 2008-10-06 14:11:48

Well - you could certainly seek out legitmate citizens who are elgible to vote. I wrote “last day to register” on my car and I printed out the form to register to vote to have with me. I already helped register 35 people this morning. They were republicans.

 

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2008-10-06 17:06:47

better to ba a poll watcher, officially or unoficially.

 
 
 

Comment by Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion, Proprietor of the NQ Popcorn Concession | 2008-10-06 11:49:38

While Sarah Palin continues her assault on Obama’s lies about his extensive, long-term associations with Bill Ayers, the Obama campaign is madly scrambling and is now claiming that, in the mid-1990s, Obama had no knowledge of Bill Ayers’ background.

LMAO!

Mac’s site has a link on this with quotes:

Obama Campaign Now Claims Obama Didn’t Know About Ayers’ Past

Popcorn anyone? ;)

Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-10-06 11:52:20

oh, this is good news. if he now is denying he knew about ayers that will stop him right there. It will make him look rather stupid, eh?, not knowing his buddy’s history of radicalism.

Comment by Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion, Proprietor of the NQ Popcorn Concession | 2008-10-06 11:58:45

I guess he’d rather look stupid than admit he knew of his past.

Comment by McHope | 2008-10-06 12:35:22

The very fact that Obama LIED to the entire country about even knowing this man- just a guy who lives in his neighborhood- is the proof that he knew exactly what Ayers was about.
If he were truly unaware,once AGAIN, then he’d have had no reason to lie about their relationship.
Ayers, like Pfleger, Wright , Farrakhan (sp?),and all the others do not even remotely hide their views. We all know what they are about, Obama KNOWS- Obama is the centerpiece of the entire radical overthrow of America. His supporters just don’t seem to care.

 
 

Comment by JP49 | 2008-10-06 13:29:04

That doesn’t hold up for Obama since on 9-11-01 he is reported to have said that “I regret we didn’t do enough” when talking about his home side terrorist organization and what the perpetrated on America. obama is a liar. I bet he lies to himself. He can’t say the truth. He never learned how. He only learned how to lie and manipulate.

 

Comment by JP49 | 2008-10-06 13:29:54

That doesn’t hold up for Obama since on 9-11-01 Ayers is reported to have said a newspaper or reporter that “I regret we didn’t do enough” when talking about his home side terrorist organization and what the perpetrated on America. obama is a liar. I bet he lies to himself. He can’t say the truth. He never learned how. He only learned how to lie and manipulate.

Comment by imustprotest | 2008-10-06 23:35:02

Yep, here’s a snip from the article:

”I don’t regret setting bombs,” Bill Ayers said. ”I feel we didn’t do enough.” Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970’s as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago

Comment by imustprotest | 2008-10-06 23:36:09

It was the New York Times by the way.

 
 
 

Comment by Brendy | 2008-10-06 15:42:32

Sorry - Obummmer’s supporters could find out the WHOLE corrupt, lying truth about Obummer and it wouldn’t make a bit of difference to them - they JUST DON’T CARE ABOUT HIS CHARACTER - they just want him to WIN - period! I’m beginning to believe there are more people in this country looking for a free ride and/or just looking out for themselves and who could care less about values, honesty or decency.

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2008-10-06 17:11:36

sadly, i think you’re right.

 
 
 

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright | 2008-10-06 12:27:54

Obama Campaign Now Claims Obama Didn’t Know About Ayers’ Past

When the Main Stream Media Won’t Expose your lies…why you worry?

Barack Obama - Getting ready to Give America the Best ButtLovin Ever!

Don’t worry he will text message you in the morning.

Comment by BernieO | 2008-10-06 12:58:25

I don’t get why this is such a big deal. Obama didn’t know the Rezko was a slum lord and a crok either or that Reverend Wright was a hate monger……
I am surprised that the Republicans aren’t bringing all of this up as evidence of a pattern of making bad judgments then playing the naive innocent instead of just focusing on Ayers.

Comment by tzada | 2008-10-06 13:08:23

Sarah is after him today on Rev Wright :)

Comment by Maverick | 2008-10-06 14:03:37

This URL bears reposting. Appalachia cannot be stolen!
BO has no chance in the swing states.
hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/a-word-or-two-or-twelve-hundred-on-new-voter-registration/

 
 

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright | 2008-10-06 23:30:11

one step at a time. First lay the groundwork then make the argument.

 
 

Comment by savage | 2008-10-06 13:09:17

 
 

Comment by Jackie | 2008-10-06 12:48:19

Call me a nerd…but I knew the name Bill Ayers and I have lived out side the USA for a total of 19 years and I am 6 years younger than Obama.

My 21 yearold knew the name and the deeds when she was a freshman in Highschool. The same year that we lost the Twin Towers. We lived in southern Germany.

He has NO FUCKING Excuse. Not in the Age of Google.

Comment by csuzeq | 2008-10-06 13:27:40

and let us not forget he is all high tech ya know! Remember, he can text and email and Mccain can’t. I hope someone at the debate tomorrow asks him why he did not use those skills to find out about Ayers or Rezko.

 
 

Comment by AMERICAN SAWBUCK | 2008-10-06 13:16:11

AND I WILL BE 21 NEXT JUNE

 

Comment by vinnie | 2008-10-06 15:20:23

First he said he was never Muslim. Then the AP photo came out, and he says that his step father stated his religious affiliation as such because it was easiest for everyone for him to do so. Then he said he never had Kenyan citizenship, but now on his own website, he ‘fesses up that he had Kenyan citizenship because Barack Sr. was a British subject and by default, he also had Kenyan citizenship. He never heard those hateful words from Rev. Wright, but maybe perhaps he did. Now, Ayers is moving from “just a guy in the neighborhood” to “I didn’t know his radical past”. Larry Sinclair, you may have your day yet. Popcorn anyone?

 

Comment by Karma | 2008-10-06 15:21:28

That is the biggest bunch of bull there is.

If he sticks with the claim that he doesn’t know who Ayers is. It completely contradicts his claim that living in foreign countries as a child made him more politically and socially aware of the world.

Since these acts of terrorism were done in the name of third world countries and were also his mother’s causes. The Weathermen stayed in the news for years with their communiques and bombs. To think he wasn’t aware of Ayers and his group shows an incredibly ignorant child of the world.

So was he sheltered from the reality around him as a child or was he fully aware as he claimed previously for his foreign policy cred?

And why would saying….Obama is an idiot of recent American history….be a good excuse for a man running for President as the smart guy?

 
 

Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-10-06 11:50:03

What will be interesting to see is if Obama’s attacks on McCain “distracting with swift boat attacks instead of talking about issues” will work.

I am convinced that they knew this stuff would come out and are trying to handle it with the race accusations, swift boat accusations, keating stuff.

I hope that McCain will be able to defeat these distractions from Obama. I am getting nervous as obama seems so confident that he will win. It may be masking fear, but this is a game of chicken here. I hope obama blinks and stumbles soon, like in tomorrows debate.

Comment by Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion, Proprietor of the NQ Popcorn Concession | 2008-10-06 11:53:23

I am convinced that they knew this stuff would come out and are trying to handle it with the race accusations, swift boat accusations, keating stuff.

That tact worked with Hillary but the GOP won’t hold back like she did.

 

Comment by countryfirst_obamanever | 2008-10-06 11:56:37

Uh, confident like sending out mass email after midnight about their Keating 5 video? Sounds like desperation is setting in at the Obama camp.

I heart popcorn!!

Comment by Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion, Proprietor of the NQ Popcorn Concession | 2008-10-06 12:03:06

With butter? That will be 50 Quatloos please.

Comment by Jackie | 2008-10-06 12:50:17

Sold! Extra Salt I am splurging.

Comment by athena | 2008-10-06 14:14:41

Can I have a box of Goobers too?

 
 
 
 

Comment by Urban Hillbilly | 2008-10-06 12:05:59

They (dems) don’t understand why the “Swiftboating” worked against Kerry. That would be my first concern about Obama’s efforts to fend off “Swiftboating”.

Comment by Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion, Proprietor of the NQ Popcorn Concession | 2008-10-06 12:09:05

But in this case it is no Swiftboating. The GOP does not have to make up anything.

Comment by Perry Logan | 2008-10-06 12:22:54

That’s the problem. Everyone knows the GOP lies about Democrats, so they won’t believe any of what they say about Obama, even though it’s true!

Comment by Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion, Proprietor of the NQ Popcorn Concession | 2008-10-06 12:26:25

This is where the PUMAs can help. We are not GOP and we are saying the truth.

 

Comment by Urban Hillbilly | 2008-10-06 12:34:21

Not true. Swing voters study all information they have access to WITHOUT the partisan filter. They will consider it, may or may not make a difference to them.

 

Comment by Andy | 2008-10-06 12:56:02

No Peggy Logan: the problem is people like you who know the truth about Obama and still give a damn about it. Shame on you.

 

Comment by athy | 2008-10-06 14:03:12

Perry
I agree.
The facts (with sources from the right,center, and left political spheres) need to get out quickly.

People need to know that it is not JUST Fox that is making these accusation.

Today’s msm has been corrupted so we need to go back in time to research these facts and put together for the voters.

Go back AT LEAST five years (in my opinion, based upon my observations) and consolidate facts from varied sources and put together to present to voters.

A liberal voter would be more open to believing facts that he/she learns are sourced from -oh I dont know maybe The Village Voice (prior to 2000) versus something sourced from FOX.

I heard Tom Hartman radio broadcast this morning and he was furious about the recent ’swiftboat attack’ against Sen Obama and he was quoting the article in the NYT as PROOF that Obama relationship with Ayers was casual.

Lately he has been shouting down guests on his show who question Sen Obama’s integrity and he did this morning. Today he shouted down a person he was interviewing. This woman (I think she was with the International WOmen’s Forum-sorry I caught tail end of interview)was politely trying to bring forth facts about Ayers and Obama that negate the conclusion reached by the NYT but Tom Hartman kept shouting over what she was saying each time she brought out a fact that we here at NQ know has been confirmed several times over by investigative journalists and others.
I have been a long time listener of Tom Hartman show and it bothers me to see the low levels he has been stooping too both in his use of ‘arguments and fallacies’ as well as shouting down guests who question Sen Obama’s ability to lead this country

 
 
 
 

Comment by Monet | 2008-10-06 12:18:49

I am convinced that they knew this stuff would come out and are trying to handle it with the race accusations, swift boat accusations, keating stuff.

Of course the Obama campaign knew the McCain campaign would hit them with the Ayers association in October. Why else would there have been a NY Times article this past weekend declaring there’s nothing to find between William Ayers and Senator Obama?

Unless the McCain campaign can prove a direct association with Senator Obama holding a smoking gun puffing goals of overthrowing the U.S., it’s going to be ignored. It will have less impact than Rev. Wright did.

The over age 40 voters have lived through Watergate, Irangate, Whitewater, etc… and they don’t pay attention to scandals anymore. They know they go nowhere. A few people might end up in a federal prison, but most end up with talk shows, book deals and speaking engagements that make them rich.

Comment by PhxNickD | 2008-10-06 12:26:40

The over age 40 voters have lived through Watergate, Irangate, Whitewater, etc… and they don’t pay attention to scandals anymore. They know they go nowhere. A few people might end up in a federal prison, but most end up with talk shows, book deals and speaking engagements that make them rich.

Not true - these are actually the ones who will care most of BHOs associations with terrorists. We are the ones who grew up being taught to be proud of our country. We are the ones who care. It is the younger generation and those under 40 who spent their time fighting the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools, desecrating the American Fag and removing “GOD” from everything who won’t care. And that is exactly who we see voting for this anti American unpatriotic person who the democrat heads think should lead this country.

 

Comment by Urban Hillbilly | 2008-10-06 12:36:35

You’re right and I don’t think Obama should even respond to these allegations.

Comment by Shiloh | 2008-10-06 12:40:04

He thinks he can neutralize it all with age old counter attacks like Keating even though everyone knows McCain and John Glenn were completely cleared. He also thinks all he has to do is chant the magic words “racism” and “swiftboat” and the attacks will be foiled. Well I’ve got news for you, the republicans were planning for all that. There is a lot of hard documentation in the form of tapes, videos and documents from abroad to come.

Comment by Patrick | 2008-10-06 13:19:17

Shiloh- I hope you are right! Can you elaborate? Are you a political insider for the GOP? Millions of us have been waiting patiently for the GOP/McCain to pull out the myriad of dirt on Obama, and so far–nothing that is sticking in the hearts/minds of many voting Americans (as is indicative of the poll numbers). Please reassure us that this stuff will finally come out and we will see Obama’s numbers plummet?

 

Comment by csuzeq | 2008-10-06 13:30:31

Mccain just wants to prove he can be high tech, too! Hooray!

 
 
 

Comment by Buzz Latte | 2008-10-06 12:46:31

Monet,

That’s real sweet honey, but the over forty set do pay attention to those nasty ol’ terrorist ties and nuclear proliferation, and anything that hints of Hitler or communism.

Barky is just too dirty rolling around with all this shyt sticking to him.

It doesn’t matter if the Obama/Ayers connection isn’t made today, it will be.

 

Comment by Postmaster | 2008-10-06 14:15:36

Not true Monet, the over 40 are the ones that will pay attention, and yes, it matters! Kick butt McCain/Palin.

 
 

Comment by Diana L. C. | 2008-10-06 12:27:36

The McCain campaign just needs to keep pushing him for proofs by asking specific questions: “You didn’t know about this when at that time you were here doing this?” etc. Keep Obama on the defensive, no matter how “above it all” he wants to be.

McCain just needs to firmly say that the American people need to have a possible future President open records to his past–We are the ones who deserve to know these things. It should be easy to open records completely.

Hannity’s show made it clear that O kept blocking access to lots of information.

 

Comment by Chicago | 2008-10-06 16:17:23

Obama’s camp are panicking about the Ayers attack. we see Axelrod spew out a blatant stupid reply stating that Obama had no clue about Ayers’ bombing days…this after the fact that Obama had alrady stated that he condemned what Ayers’ did.

if that isn’t a sign that they are panicking, I don’t know what is.

the problem that Obama has is that in order for him to nullify the Ayers’ connection he has to answer the question about his Chicago Annenberg Challenge connection (the only executive experience he’s got that he doesn’t want to tout). If he can wiggle out of that, he’ll have to answer his Khalid connection. if he wiggles out of that, he’ll have to answer the ACORN connection. if he wiggles out of that, he’ll have to explain his citizenship status….it goes on and on and on, and I believe that McCain has a plan to lay all of them out in the open. Obama will have to shoot down bogies from all directions and by the time he shoots all of them down, people will start seeing that “where there’s smoke, there’s a fire.”

 
 

Comment by Objective analysis | 2008-10-06 11:50:40

Did you guys see drudgereport of the following article?

Ayers, Obama shared stage in 1997; Michelle Obama praised…
http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/971106/justice.shtml

They knew each other and I bet you Michelle Obama had something to do with it.

Comment by Woman Voter | 2008-10-06 11:58:15

Ayers will be joined by Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the Law School….

One hundred years later, the system is “overcrowded, under-funded, over-centralized and racist,” Ayers said.

Michelle Obama, Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University Community Service Center, hopes bringing issues like this to campus will open a dialogue between members of the University community and the broader community.

http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/971106/justice.shtml
……………………………………..

WOW…Michelle was aware of Ayers too. :-(

CAN WE HAVE HILLARY BACK NOW? Waaaa, the media has been hiding all of this, they had to have known, how is it possible that little bloggers are finding the information.

Comment by Diana L. C. | 2008-10-06 13:24:26

Yes, I agree with Ani who mentioned this earlier in a thread. Hannity knew this stuff I am sure clear back during the primary, but he tried to throw mud on her. Hannity is just really agains Dems and wanted her out of the way because the Republicans knew she was the biggest threat to them.

So–while I’m happy that Hannity is outing O’s past ties–I would have liked him a lot more if he had done it during the primary.

I still feel strange watching Fox. And it really turns my stomach to have Ann Coulter now on this band wagon. I know women should now support all women, but Ann Coulter has not convinced me she is really a woman.

Comment by countryfirst_obamanever | 2008-10-06 13:25:56

He talked about it and Wright extensively during the primaries. No one listened.

 

Comment by csuzeq | 2008-10-06 13:37:14

I still love Hannity.

I look at it this way. Hillary should have brought these things into the picture. She really should have. It is for the safety of America. Sure, the party may have frowned upon her for a while, but the voters would have felt she put country before party and been greatful to her.

 
 

Comment by Jan, NC | 2008-10-06 15:21:08

Michelle worked with Bernadine Dorne (sp)?

 
 

Comment by sjc-tx | 2008-10-06 14:17:42

[Chronicle]

Nov. 6, 1997
Vol. 17, No. 4

Close-up on juvenile justice
Author, former offender among speakers

By Jennifer Vanasco
News Office

Children who kill are called “super predators,” “people with no conscience,” “feral pre-social beings” — and “adults.”

William Ayers, author of A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court (Beacon Press, 1997), says “We should call a child a child. A 13-year-old who picks up a gun isn’t suddenly an adult. We have to ask other questions: How did he get the gun? Where did it come from?”

Ayers, who spent a year observing the Cook County Temporary Juvenile Detention Center in Chicago, is one of four panelists who will speak on juvenile justice at 6 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 20, in the C-Shop. The panel, which marks the 100th anniversary of the juvenile justice system in the United States, is part of the Community Service Center’s monthly discussion series on issues affecting the city of Chicago. The event is free and open to the public.

Ayers will be joined by Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the Law School, who is working to combat legislation that would put more juvenile offenders into the adult system; Randolph Stone, Director of the Mandel Legal Aid Clinic; Alex Correa, a reformed juvenile offender who spent seven years in Cook County Temporary Detention Center; Frank Tobin, a former priest and teacher at the Detention Center who helped Correa; and Willy Baldwin, who grew up in public housing and is currently a teacher at the Detention Center.

The juvenile justice system was founded by Chicago reformer Jane Addams, who advocated the establishment of a separate court system for children which would act like a “kind and just parent” for children in crisis.

One hundred years later, the system is “overcrowded, under-funded, over-centralized and racist,” Ayers said.

Michelle Obama, Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University Community Service Center, hopes bringing issues like this to campus will open a dialogue between members of the University community and the broader community.

“Students and faculty explore these issues in the classroom, but it is an internal conversation,” Obama said. “We know that issues like juvenile justice impact the city of Chicago, this nation and — directly or indirectly — this campus. This panel gives students a chance to hear about the juvenile justice system not only on a theoretical level, but from the people who have experienced it.”

http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/971106/justice.shtml

How much of this article ‘rings a few bells’ eh??! Someone send this to Hannity or the McCain campaign.

Comment by meileen | 2008-10-06 15:44:38

Damn. And this candidate spoke out against the recent supreme court ruling regarding the death penalty? He believes it should be used for heinous crimes. Hmmmm. What is the predominant race sitting on death row? And how many were incarcerated at a young age?

This man is full of contradictions. Or is bullshit a better word?

 

Comment by Chicago | 2008-10-06 16:46:33

The right action here is not to send it to Hannity, I can guarantee you that he knows that stuff. the right action here is to send it to the mainstream media and tell them that “even us non-journalists can dig up evidence of Obama’s connection to Ayers yet you media types can’t. it’s either you are all idiots or it’s true that you’re all turned your backs on journalistic ethics and are actually coevering Obama from his dubious past.”

the more people that does that, the more pressure it’ll have on the mainstream media.

Comment by Chicago | 2008-10-06 16:49:11

sorry that should read “you’VE all turned your backs….”

 
 
 
 

Comment by Woman Voter | 2008-10-06 11:51:05

Palin: “Obama Disqualified To Be Commander-in-Chief” (In My World)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8f2kIVCu_s

&
Dangerous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjEKRIBDv6Q&eurl

……………………………..

You know I didn’t know he made that statement and was telling his supporters that for over a year. Where is the media?

 

Comment by MikeG | 2008-10-06 11:51:37

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Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-10-06 11:55:50

the marraige to charley manson i can beleive, especially with friends like bernadette dohrn who loved what charlie manson did to sharon tate and her family.

you’re scared, aren’t you mikey? are you old enough to remember these days of rage? Or are you old enough to read about them now and get educated?

ayers groomed obama…his job is to take us down from within. he has started already…by bamboozling you idiots to follow him like hapless sheep. That’s how Hitler started too–bamboozling people just like you, mikey.

 

Comment by Mel | 2008-10-06 11:57:01

Now2 now Mike G, everyone knows, it was documented that Obama was sitting in Ayers/Dohrn’s livingroom when OJ murdered his wife, OBama has witnesses, the druges of Chicago politics like Edward Said et al!

As for Manson, that is Obama’s good friend Dohrn who simply settled on marrying Ayers because Manson was occupied for a lifetime!

 

Comment by Arabella Trefoil | 2008-10-06 11:59:43

Ayers and Dohrn were there at the founding of the Weather Underground. At a 1969 “War Council” that helped launch the organization, Dohrn raised three fingers in a “fork salute” to Charles Manson, whom she proposed as a revolutionary inspiration. She went on to joke about Manson’s victims and dubbed them the “Tate Eight” after Sharon Tate, the pregnant actress whom members of the Manson tribe stabbed in the womb with a fork. “Dig it,” said Dohrn at the time. “First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!”

George Mason University’s History News Network

 

Comment by J.J. | 2008-10-06 12:00:16

I didn’t know that about Obama being married to Charlie Manson. WOW. I just thought they were dating.

Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-10-06 12:10:32

 
 

Comment by Gal from Tex | 2008-10-06 12:24:54

Or about how he was married to Charlie Manson?

Well anyone who lived in Southern CA during August of 1969 remembers well the horror that happened and how freaky Charles Manson and his “family” were. More than a few screws loose for that evil man. Disturbing is it not that Barry is friends with a person who admires Charles Manson? Does Bernadine Dohrn think it’s perfectly acceptable to stab a 8 month pregnant woman 16 times?

God help us if Barry gets elected.

 
 

Comment by Not Your sweetie | 2008-10-06 11:52:39

The other SNL skit - how Democrats created the party - See Soros with the title of “Manager and Owner - Democratic party”
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/snl-who-created-the-crisis/

 

Comment by OhVoter | 2008-10-06 11:54:10

I hope McCain takes this issue on strongly in the Tuesday debate. McCain, as a former POW, can certainly have righteous indignation and disgust with a person like Bill Ayers. McCain can validly claim that he would not want to be in the same room with someone like that. I think this is a point only he can make and I hope he makes it. McCain’s convention speech was most effective when he talked about his love of country and his POW experience. Most Americans (except the DK crowd) do feel a great deal of love and respect for their country and would not want to be associated with someone they KNOW hates this country and wants to defeat this country. McCain can talk about this better than anyone.

Comment by Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion, Proprietor of the NQ Popcorn Concession | 2008-10-06 11:56:49

The gloves need to come off. Mac needs to go after the race baiter Obama hard during the debate.

 
 

Comment by sarainitaly | 2008-10-06 11:56:09

So, again we need to ask - is Obama the biggest liar on the planet, or the biggest moron? He didn’t ever know what Wright was preaching, and he didn’t know that Ayers was from the Weatherground?? So he is a HUGE liar, or the biggest idiot on the planet…which is it?

I saw this on HotAir and thought it was hilarious!

Obama’s Keating moment: Glenn stumps for Team O

The Barack Obama campaign has decided to attack John McCain over his involvement in the Keating 5 scandal of the 1980s, but they have already demonstrated a rather peculiar way of doing it. Team O deduces that a rehash of the 20-year-old scandal may resonate with the current financial crisis, which may be true. If so, perhaps they should re-think their surrogate lineup:
When the astronaut made way for the Boss on the Oval, 10,000 people roared in unison, “Bruuuuce!”
“You don’t get introduced by John Glenn every day,” Bruce Springsteen said, breaking into an impromptu version of Mr. Spaceman.

The Ohio State University campus was in a festive mood yesterday as the rock legend performed a seven-song, solo acoustic set on behalf of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. The free event, one of several Springsteen is doing for the Illinois senator, highlighted Ohio’s early-voting law.
John Glenn? Senator John Glenn got caught in the same Keating 5 scandal that Obama now wants to use as an attack on McCain.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/06/obamas-keating-moment-glenn-stumps-for-team-o/

Comment by katmandu | 2008-10-06 12:37:14

I thought the Glenn thing was hilarious. There’s a better word than irony here . . .

Ben Smith at Politico makes this observation about Obnama not knowing about Ayers:

On the other hand, Obama’s not that young. He started at Columbia University, for instance, in 1981, when their names were certainly in the New York tabloids, which haved always loved the story of upper-middle-class radical cop killers. Kathy Boudin’s role in a botched, fatal 1981 Brinks roberry was huge news. Bernardine Dohrn was imprisoned in 1982 for refusing to testify against fellow Weather Underground members. And Ayers’ past was hardly a secret in Chicago, where he was regularly quoted as an ex-radical and ex-fugitive.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Ignorance_of_Ayers.html?showall

Comment by sarainitaly | 2008-10-06 12:46:20

And you have to love this too:

Update: Erick Erickson says that Obama would have had to avoid local media altogether in 1996 to miss the mentions of his friend and neighbor. In 1996, the Democrats held their national convention in Chicago, and Ayers got a lot of attention beginning with the decision in 1994:
At the height of this exposure, major media outlets were quoting Bill Ayers and pointing out his radical past.
What else happened in 1996 when the media was reminiscing about the Democratic Convention of 1968, and interviewing key players like Bill Ayers?
Bill Ayers held a fundraiser for Barack Obama.
And we’re really supposed to believe Obama did not know, by 1996, given all the major media coverage of the 1996 Democratic Convention going back to Chicago despite the 1968 riots — including local and national media interviews with Bill Ayers on the subject — that Obama did not know?
You’ve got to be kidding me.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/06/videos-the-ayers-connection/

 
 

Comment by sarainitaly | 2008-10-06 12:53:10

And IF Obama didn’t KNOW what Wright was preaching, and Obama didn’t know who Bill Ayers was, and he didn’t know about Meeks or Phleger or Khalidi or any of these other people he has tossed under the bus, we are NOW supposed to give him the keys to the white house?

So, when we find out he was lunching with bin Laden, or Ali Atwa or Ayman Al-Zawahiri we are supposed to believe that he didn’t know who they were?

So, again - is he a liar or an idiot?

Comment by Helen C | 2008-10-06 13:15:01

 

Comment by csuzeq | 2008-10-06 13:43:50

Don’t forget, he didn’t know about Rezko either.

I always tell people who say it’s not true that Obama is involved, well, he’s either dirty as can be or dumb and easily manipulated. Neither one is a quality I want in my President.

 

Comment by athy | 2008-10-06 14:39:48

sarain italy
well said!

 

Comment by Goblintrain | 2008-10-06 14:46:40

I’m wondering how many how many times a duck has to prove its a duck before it is called a duck?

Anybody figured that one out yet?

 

Comment by vinnie | 2008-10-06 15:28:10

His hands are over his ears with eyes shut.la la la.

 
 
 

Comment by savage | 2008-10-06 11:57:00

Comment by Typical Bitter Whitey Woman | 2008-10-06 12:00:39

Let’s see. Obama is an admitted crack addict who won’t state clearly when (or if) he stopped doing drugs, and has released a 1-page “summary” of his medical condition.

Yeah, keep going on that subject. LOL.

Comment by Arabella Trefoil | 2008-10-06 12:01:59

I think it’s the ciggies he’s worried about.

Comment by Chelsea Patriot | 2008-10-06 12:20:51

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Comment by savage | 2008-10-06 12:05:17

yes, let “turn the page”

answer the question. at least obama admited to using drugs. Palin is passing off someone else’s child as her own.

I will keep going on the subject.

Who is Trig?

Comment by Typical Bitter Whitey Woman | 2008-10-06 12:12:05

Oh OK. And did you see that National Enquirer and Globe stories about Obama’s involvement in Donald Young’s murder?

LOL. D.E.S.P.E.R.A.T.E.

Comment by savage | 2008-10-06 12:36:51

it would be D.E.S.P.E.R.A.T.E. if Obama was losing. he is not.

Comment by Newly Independent | 2008-10-06 17:19:49

Obama is losing.

The MSM polls are giving you a false sense of security.

 
 

Comment by tzada | 2008-10-06 13:26:14

There were 2 other homosexual black men from that church murdered in the same way within a short time. Pesky details they sometimes come back to haunt ya. What happened to ALL 3 MEN?
Had they ever been to the Purple Room? Doing drugs and party all day… hmmmm

Comment by savage | 2008-10-06 13:30:26

wow, you PUMAs sure are racist and homophobic. keep talking, it only makes your group look bad.

 
 
 

Comment by wry | 2008-10-06 12:21:00

You are a sick fuck. Innocent babies with developmental disabilities are off limits. If Larry or Susan finds your address I hope they publish it on the Drudge Report.

Comment by savage | 2008-10-06 12:35:36

You’re comment is stupid.

I have no problem with babies. Really, This has nothing to do with the baby itself. I DO have a problem with Gov. Palin’s honesty. If Sarah Palin were running against Sarah Palin, she would demand evidence, as she did with something just as accessible with respect to John Stein’s marriage license.

All she has to do is release her medical records, like all of the other canidates have done.

Comment by wry | 2008-10-06 12:41:36

Obama never released his medical records. Get your facts straight.

Comment by savage | 2008-10-06 12:51:43

Obama releases medical information
May 29, 2008

what facts?

Comment by Jackie | 2008-10-06 13:14:21

that was a note from his doctor saying he is healthy not his medical records.

And as for Sarah Palin’s pregnancy in Early April she was being filmed by an Israeli Documentary Maker and they discussed her “tight abs that minimized her babay bump.”

But she was clearly pregnant and very honest about it.

Comment by savage | 2008-10-06 13:26:49

it’s not the baby bump, it’s that there is no visable record of Trig being born at the hospital Gov. Palin said he was born at:

http://www.matsuregional.com/nursery/nursery_calendar.php?month=4&year=2008

Comment by K Lynne | 2008-10-06 14:34:37

I have a two-year old daughter. When she was born, I had to sign a release allowing her birth to be ‘announced’ on the hospital web site. My sister, whose son was born at the same hospital, did not. His name was not listed on the hospital web site.

By this same evidence, my sister is not *really* my nephew’s mother.

LAME!!!

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Comment by countryfirst_obamanever | 2008-10-06 13:36:02

Do not feed the troll. He/she is trying to divert the conversation.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by Zeke | 2008-10-06 12:54:31

We know Trig is an innocent human being.
We also know that you are the lowest piece of shit to ever drop from your mother’s ass.
GO FUCK YOURSELF

Comment by savage | 2008-10-06 13:04:18

zeke, my mother was murdered. why did you have to bring her into this discussion?

Comment by Paul3triple | 2008-10-06 13:46:51

because you want to bring someones child into the conversation.

 

Comment by Zeke | 2008-10-06 13:49:46

I’m sorry your mother was murdered. You’re still an asshole.

 
 
 

Comment by Postmaster | 2008-10-06 14:50:04

good grief, that’s a stupid post.

Comment by Postmaster | 2008-10-06 14:53:44

I was referring to savage’s original post.

 
 

Comment by street_parade | 2008-10-06 15:00:11

Sweetie, if the mothership is sending out THAT as your talking point of the day…then indeed, armageddon is upon Obama.

Ayres, Dohrn, Wright, Phlegar, Rezko, al-Mansour, Meeks, Khalidi, Marshall, Jones, Blagojevich, Daley, no birth certificate, no school transcripts, no medical records, no friends from his past (that aren’t certifiable or crooks).

You know you’re over the target when….

 

Comment by vinnie | 2008-10-06 15:35:35

Trig is John Edwards’ baby, doncha know.

 
 
 

Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-10-06 12:04:31

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How are we to know that obama could stroke out at any minute from his poor health, and then replaced with a guy who’s had 2 aneurysms?????

let’s find out how truly sick obama is and why he looks so terrible.

 

Comment by Woman Voter | 2008-10-06 12:09:14

Trig is with his parents ALIVE and well.

Release Obama’s medical records. I just learned recently that Kerry’s wife never released her tax record, but everyone was going to die if they didn’t see Cindy’s. Cindy has released them…NOW ITS TIME OBAMA HANDS OVER HIS MEDICAL RECORDS.

 

Comment by AyersIsMyDaddy | 2008-10-06 12:27:20

Ayers is a good start.
Frank M. Davis
Nahdmi Auchi
prince Alweed bin Talal
Khalid Mansour
Raila Odinga
Tony Rezko

are on deck.

Anyone have a list of Who’s Who Under The Bus?
Bets on next under the bus- john glen, keating5

 

Comment by Jackie | 2008-10-06 13:09:39

She released her financials already and I would say she can release her medical records in due time. As soon as Barfy releases his.

 
 

Comment by Hope is the last to die | 2008-10-06 11:58:29

So they’re coming out with the very same excuse they used with Rezko: clueless little Obama simply had no idea. Wow, that’s really boosting my confidence in his judgment.

Comment by Mel | 2008-10-06 12:04:31

Especially when Odumbo was supposedly a Political Science major at Columbia U….lol

Comment by katmandu | 2008-10-06 12:39:12

let me just repeat the link to Ben Smith’s comment about Obama living in NYC:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Ignorance_of_Ayers.html?showall

How could he not know?

 
 

Comment by Kal | 2008-10-06 12:29:24

Amazingly poor attention to political matters, I guess.

Wouldn’t that go to judgment, knowing what’s going on around you?

 
 

Comment by Urban Hillbilly | 2008-10-06 12:01:20

Bring out the picture of Ayers standing on the American flag.

Comment by Urban Hillbilly | 2008-10-06 12:02:38

If people see it, no one will give a damn about the Keating 5.

Comment by Mel | 2008-10-06 12:10:38

Keating 5 vs Obama having a campaign finance co-chair who owned a failed sub-prime bank and owes fines of $460 million to American taxpayers that she hasn’t made a payment on in 5 years!

Comment by athena | 2008-10-06 12:54:09

Oh-oh-oh and is from Iran and hosted an event at the NY Hyatt for Mr. Achmadinijad (SP) Pronounced “I forgot my dinner jacket”

Valeris is Obama’s money person…..

 
 
 

Comment by Shiloh | 2008-10-06 12:09:21

Comment by wry | 2008-10-06 12:22:30

I don’t think Barky was 8 years old here, was he?

 

Comment by AyersIsMyDaddy | 2008-10-06 12:30:05

That pic needs to be on Drudge
Email it guys!

 

Comment by Urban Hillbilly | 2008-10-06 12:38:40

Now that will help America understand who Bill Ayers is. Thanks, Shiloh!

 

Comment by Lee M | 2008-10-06 12:48:46

This picture was also on Hannity’s program last night.(Sunday)

 

Comment by Jackie | 2008-10-06 13:18:30

That pic ought to be a 5 x 8 poster at the next Obama stop.

 
 
 

Comment by benny | 2008-10-06 12:06:19

Unfortunately, I dont think even he (obama) knows whether he is a socialist, communist or a fascist. he vacillates between all these personalities. but if he gains the presidency, and with nancy loony pelosi in the house, he’ll have absolutely power, and with her thinking he is gift from God. IF he wins, I guarantee that this will be an election america regrets.

Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-10-06 12:19:04

that is why he is a perfect manchurian candidate. he is manipulated through his ego and lack of self confidence. he just goes along with this, but he is not stupid. he know’s he has been groomed for this moment.

 
 

Comment by missE | 2008-10-06 12:10:46

An ad titled Obama, how did he not know? should be made.

How did he not know Rev Wright his spiritual adviser who has “been like family to me” for 20 years ranted about America and whites?

How did he not know the conditions of the buildings of his slumlord friends Rezko, Butler,Davis and Jarrett who were given millions in taxpayer money and made rich with his agenda of private/public housing reform?

How did he not know Ayers terrorist history when he was hired for the CAC and sat on the Woods Fund board?

Comment by Shiloh | 2008-10-06 12:18:31

How about “What did he not know and when did he not know it?”

Comment by beebop | 2008-10-06 12:36:07

…. why does he now want you to believe it?

 

Comment by oowawa | 2008-10-06 12:50:23

PERFECT! Let this become our mantra.

 
 

Comment by Denise | 2008-10-06 12:34:09

No an ad that says:

Obama blind to his obvious surroundings not being able to recognize terrorist is not ready to lead.

Obama not being accountable for anything not ready to lead.

Obama Radical past and present not ready to lead the future.

 
 

Comment by hadenough | 2008-10-06 12:13:12

When the bailout bill failed and the stock market dived we were told it was bad news for mccain. Now post bailout the stock market dives even farther. Is that still bad news for mccain?

obama said the bailout bill met his ‘four principals’ and that he personally rounded up votes for the bill. Now stocks are tanking. Will the “liberal media” notice? Will they ask obama what happened? Or will just be more bad news for mccain?

 

Comment by kavala007 | 2008-10-06 12:13:47

The much touted bailout bill has failed to do its job and stabilize the markets. That is the result of the lack of trust in the system and in one another. This lack of trust, to a large degree, has been brought about by the current Democratic leadership and the MSM. Whatever they say no one believes. It is the end result of their attempts to subvert our democratic principles and like the first bailout bill loaded with pork, shove a candidate for the presidency down our throats. American citizens deserve better.

If we had reporters with journalistic integrity, if the New York Times and the Washington Post were to do some real reporting and if the Democrats would stop saying such things as “GOD sent him” perhaps things would begin to stabilize. A little truth goes a very long way.

Comment by Perry Logan | 2008-10-06 12:38:45

Unfortunately, the Repubs have been trying to blame their screw-ups on the Democrats for too many years. People have gotten wise. ;-)

Comment by ohio | 2008-10-06 13:06:05

Perry, I’m so sick of hearing about the Repubs coming from your mouth. I was a democrat and I also did home mortgages. I remember it differently than you evidently do. I walked out of my job because of what they were doing. Why don’t you man up and quit your BSing. The democrats hands have not been clean in a long time. And to say that the Repubs haven’t either does not take away from the Dems. Two wrongs do not make a right. It’s about time to decide what is right with this country and who is right for this country and it is not Obama. So either help get rid of Obama or go back to your dislusional thinking that the Republicans deserve it and therefore so does the country. Obama isn’t good for this country, period. Whether it is the Democratic party or the Republican party. We are Americans first. Got it?

 

Comment by Postmaster | 2008-10-06 15:04:55

Perry: SHADDUP! please

 

Comment by tillthen | 2008-10-06 17:21:52

Perry, still?

 
 

Comment by Jackie | 2008-10-06 13:21:22

It will take about 6 weeks for the bill to have an effect. THis is a HUGE mess and the world monetary system is in crisis.

In about a week we will start to see some turn but it is going to be a bumpy ride for a while.

 
 

Comment by doc99 | 2008-10-06 12:14:29

LA Times won’t release tape of Obama’s praising PLO Operative. What media bias?

 

Comment by Arabella Trefoil | 2008-10-06 12:14:41

When is Ayers going under the bus?

Comment by benny | 2008-10-06 12:18:50

Ayers under the bus? no way, arabella. ayers has got a hold on barry. ayers launched him, and helped obama get all his connections. obama aint gonna diss ayers. just aint gonna happen. all obama can say is that he knew ayers around the neighbourhood, and thats it.

Comment by Arabella Trefoil | 2008-10-06 12:25:10

I didn’t think Ayers would go under the bus, for all the reasons you mentioned. On the other hand, how is it possible for Obama to distance himself from Ayers after Hannity’s program?

Axelrod claims that Obama “didn’t know the history” but that’s not enough.

I am interested to see how Obama will extricate himself from his connections to domestic terrorists and foreign money.

Comment by Jackie | 2008-10-06 13:25:06

But Mr. Axelrod knew the details of Ayers and has palled with him and Rezko. If he had half a brain he would have steered Butthead away from them and come clean in the 1st week of the campaign.

THe hiding and lying are going to catch him.

Comment by Thinker | 2008-10-06 13:28:56

Obama is caught on tape, saying that Axelrod was a guy in his neighborhood.

Now they are saying they are friends, but Obama was in the dark about Ayers activities.

It’s the lies, It’s the pattern of forming friendships with people that hate this country and it’s all catching up to him.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by Typical Bitter Whitey Woman | 2008-10-06 12:15:05

But he’s SO smart, they say! He graduated Magna Cum Laud from Harvard!!!

And he didn’t know that people who hosted a private fundraising cocktail party at THEIR HOME were the FAMOUS FOUNDERS of the Weather Underground, an off-shoot of the SDS, which Obama belonged to at Occidental?

Yeah, okay. Sure Barack. If that’s the case, I’d say he’s unqualified based on stupidity.

Comment by Urban Hillbilly | 2008-10-06 12:52:25

Well, heck. Obama didn’t know Wright said “God damn America” and “U.S. of KKKA” until somebody told him! Michelle might never have known it if it weren’t for those “snippets” she hates!

 
 

Comment by Linda | 2008-10-06 12:15:54

“If any of you believe that, I’ve got a mansion you can’t afford to sell you. But, I know that you know that makes no sense at all.”

roflmao

…?makes no sense? Heck, it’s an outright lie, you know, the kind Obama says for the moment.(like ALWAYS)

 

Comment by pm317 | 2008-10-06 12:19:06

the Obama campaign is madly scrambling and is now claiming that, in the mid-1990s, Obama had no knowledge of Bill Ayers’ background. See The Page’s story, “Axelrod Says Obama Was In the Dark.”

He is digging himself into a deeper hole. Somebody find a picture or something to show he knew Ayers in Columbia or Occidental…people who knew him then if you’re patriotic and want to save the country, you’ll come out of your hiding and tell us what you know.

It is always the coverup..

Comment by Postmaster | 2008-10-06 15:08:34

yep, the devil is in the details.

 
 

Comment by wodiej | 2008-10-06 12:20:22

I agree w the rest of you, McCain absolutely needs to go after Obama tomorrow night. Rezko, Ayers and Wright, Dem’s created the mortgage crisis. Come on McCain-GO GET HIM.

Comment by Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion, Proprietor of the NQ Popcorn Concession | 2008-10-06 12:23:36

Contact the McCain camp and urge them that Mac should no longer hold back! Take the gloves off!

 

Comment by Shiloh | 2008-10-06 12:24:33

Careful what you expect of McCain tomorrow night. it is still the plan for him to hold back although he will be tougher than ever before. I look for him to raise issues but not sink the fangs in. Then the next day Palin and others chomp down.

 
 

Comment by Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion, Proprietor of the NQ Popcorn Concession | 2008-10-06 12:21:04

And now we bring you our regularly scheduled program, “As the Trolls Squirm” brought to you by Opampers, the diaper that never leaks because there is nothing of substance inside.

Comment by Shiloh | 2008-10-06 12:22:32

How about “The diaper that’s full of shit right out of the box.”

 

Comment by Perry Logan | 2008-10-06 12:26:09

My compliments on your awesome monikker, Mr. or Ms. Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion, Proprietor of the NQ Popcorn Concession. :)

Comment by Galt, Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion, Proprietor of the NQ Popcorn Concession | 2008-10-06 12:36:20

Thanks!

And a free (value of 50 Quatloos) hot buttered popcorn for you! ;)

 
 
 

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-10-06 12:25:49

TAKE ACTION! I am calling on all PUMAs to do a little extra and print out some flyers to sway undecideds and “reluctant Democrats” - post them in your local coffee shop, etc.

Pass it on - you can download a flyer here:

http://hillaryorbust.com/2008/10/october-puma-flyer-campaign/

 

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-10-06 12:26:06

John McCain has said he’d run a clean campaign, but he sends out little Sarah to do the sleazy smear attacks. The MSM is not amused by the McCain campaign’s effort to turn this historic election into another mud slinging event. Sarah Palin should stop the personal attacks on Barack Obama and apologize to the American people. How would she like it if the tables were turn on her? Barack Obama knows how to take the gloves off and punch back.

Comment by Shiloh | 2008-10-06 12:31:51

Did you really think he would get away with keeping his sordid past a secret? Obama never had a prayer, he is the most fatally flawed candidate in history.

 

Comment by beverly leslie | 2008-10-06 12:34:19

Oh what poor Obarf can’t handle being picked on by a woman? Mccain is a genius for his strategy of using Palin. shows Obarf can’t handle a strong woman and he’s gong to cry about it, doesn’t present a good picture of him.

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-10-06 12:38:24

Too bad the press reactions to Palin’s attacks are universally negative. The more she attacks, the lower her approval will go down. The race is over already anyway, she should just lose graciously.

Comment by PhxNickD | 2008-10-06 12:42:41

yeah that’s why 30,000 show up to see her without even the offer of a free concert. yep we sure think a lot less of Sarah now.

Comment by breeze | 2008-10-06 13:14:30

IT WAS A THING OF BEAUTY IN CLEARWATER, FLA.

THIS MORNING!!!

The spectators formed a white, red and blue
humongous flag upon the bleachers!!!

Sarah wasn’t too shabby, either….

WHAT A GLORIOUS MORNING!!!

No, no rock bands, beer and/or hotdogs…..

SARAH IS BIG ENOUGH OF A STAR, HERSELF!

 
 

Comment by countryfirst_obamanever | 2008-10-06 12:58:30

Freedom Fighter … nice moniker. Same as what Islamic Extremists use.

 

Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-10-06 13:20:50

let’s see, where have I heard this before??

“the race is over, they might as well quit”

it is not.

the msm is in the tank for barky. When he loses, so will they–their credibility will be lost even more than it is now. that’s why it is so fierce now, and why all polls show barky ahead.

Barky can be expected to trip and fall now. he won’t recover.

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-10-06 16:13:40

Hey Dr Same scrip different day. Obamoxycontin.

:0

 
 
 
 

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Barack Amerikkka Wright | 2008-10-06 12:34:50

smears truth…to obots they are the same thing.

 

Comment by mel | 2008-10-06 12:37:07

Nothing dirty in speaking the truth Freedumb!

Only glove taking off Odumbi knows of is the race card and that is gettir defending theng very old just like your defending points are troll!

 

Comment by Gal from Tex | 2008-10-06 12:38:10

How can it be termed a smear if every word of it is true? The truth hurts, doesn’t it?

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-10-06 12:45:25

Because it’s not true. Every news outlet is characterizing Sarah Palin’s attacks as smears.

Comment by Gal from Tex | 2008-10-06 12:53:17

bzzzzz wrong answer! You are quoting the MSM as truth? Oh my dear you are lost.

 

Comment by Perry Logan | 2008-10-06 12:54:34

People are won’t to say Republicans are brilliant campaigners (usually the Repubs themselves), but using Sarah Palin as their “attack” person is what you might call really stupid.

Think about it. Sarah burst upon the scene, and millions were smitten with her. This shouldn’t be surprising because—smart or not so smart, experienced or not experienced—she is an attractive and personable woman. Those unaware of this are urged to have their eyes checked.

But the Republicans have sent her out to dish the dirt on Obama, threatening to dissipate our good will for her. Are they trying to make her look like one of the gang—another dirt-dealing, potty-mouthed Republican? What were they thinking? (No need to answer that.)

Comment by Perry Logan | 2008-10-06 12:56:38

“Wont to say.” I believe my auto-corrector uncorrected what I typed!

 

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-10-06 13:25:50

I was there when she talked about Obama palling around with terrorists to the crowd of 30,000. Let me tell you - the cheers that went up when she said that were defeaning. The media is not telling the full story. A lot of people HATE Obama!

 

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-10-06 13:33:24

Good point. Although I don’t personally know anyone smitten with her. Everyone I know thinks she is either stupid, scary, or both. I’d say rage and disgust are more appropriate emotions Sarah Palin elicits.

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-10-06 13:40:45

You obviously need to widen your circle of friends. I’ve seen it with my own eyes, here in California of all places, people LOVE Sarah Palin!

 
 
 

Comment by oppo | 2008-10-06 13:10:31

not FOX! they were snickering about fauxbama pretending he “didn’t inhale ayers”…

cnn was just running the startling news that fauxbama was being investigated for illegal campaign contributions…

 
 
 

Comment by countryfirst_obamanever | 2008-10-06 12:40:52

Are you friggin’ kidding me? What’s the number on the lies and smears told about Palin … 68? Troll.

 

Comment by Linda | 2008-10-06 12:49:22

ROFLMAO.

..ALERT, ALERT Obambot trolls

Oh yes, the man who claimed he wanted a different kind of campaign, but has played gutter politics and the race card. Oh yeah….mmm tea kettle… black….lmao

Obama is so screwed….which is why you all are here. lol

 

Comment by Jackie | 2008-10-06 13:34:11

Tables turned on her??????

She has been personally attacked over and over by barky and biden and all of their surrogates.

From her children to her church to her job as mayor.

Obama is fnally getting what he has dished out for 2 freakin’ years. And Sarah owes noone an apology–she is not implying anything she is stating facts.

Obama associated with Ayers the unrepentant terrorist
Obama accuses the soldiers in Afghanistan of bombing innocents
Obama funded and defended Tony Rezko a slum Lord
His finance lady owes the American Tax payers 400 million dollars
He helped train Acorn militants
He supported a law that allowed doctors to not help a baby born alive if it was the result of an abortion.

NO APOLOGY he is a CREEP

 

Comment by Diana L. C. | 2008-10-06 14:10:55

So why doesn’t he? Afraid more detailed information will come out? Maybe doesn’t want his brainless minions to know the details.

 

Comment by Brendy | 2008-10-06 16:39:59

So? Let Obummer take off HIS gloves and fight back - we’re waiting. All Obummer has to do is come out and say “Yes, a kick-off campaign for me was held in Bill Ayres’ living room”. What is so HARD about saying that? If there was NO campaign in Ayres’ living room - why doesn’t Obummer just come out and say so? He just keeps reverting back to accusing McCain of ’smears’ yet he won’t deny what he is being accused of!

 
 

Comment by fluffy bunny | 2008-10-06 12:27:00

Comment by Sue | 2008-10-06 12:53:12

I love Tammy Bruce. I’d switch teams for her. ;-)

 
 

Comment by Shiloh | 2008-10-06 12:27:34

Comment by savage | 2008-10-06 12:45:17

cool shirt!

 

Comment by Gal from Tex | 2008-10-06 12:48:17

ROFL! What’s with the look on Michelle’s face? Oh my GOD hahahaha thanks Shiloh needed the laugh.

 
 

Comment by Lipstick LaPig | 2008-10-06 12:27:47

Speaking of the market. I am indebted to Cramer for commanding everyone to sell last time the market was through the roof.
It’s the only time I ever listened to him.
He’s wrong a lot (saying Bear Sterns was in great shape right before it went under)
For some reason it sounded right, this time. We pulled off the road on our vacation and called our broker. Revealing our age. if we were 15 years younger, we would be text messaging e-trade.
At any rate, we went liquid out a hair before everything went over the cliff.

 

Comment by beverly leslie | 2008-10-06 12:28:09

The Obarf campaign must think we are really stupid. If we are not stupid, Obarf definitely is, not knowing about Rev. Wright and sitting in his church for 20 years, and now not knowing about Ayers. Poor thing, a plant could outsmart him and he wants to the the Pres. of the country.

 

Comment by benny | 2008-10-06 12:31:10

I know that it sounds sinister, but its like a man appeared out of nowhere. obama wont release his columbia records. and we dont know his friends from that time. During his entire education, we dont even know who this guy dated, or didnt. lol, McCain is old, but we got news bout his old fling with a brazilian woman. and that was ages ago. with obama, there is no history. sorry, but that is very suspicious.

 

Comment by Docelder | 2008-10-06 12:31:13

I have an idea for a new 527 commercial… kids “trick or treating” dressed up as IronMan, Indiana Jones, Power Rangers, maybe a kid with a sheet with eye holes etc. and the tag line…

Would you let your kids “trick or treat” in Mr. Obama’s neighborhood?

 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-10-06 12:32:16

I’ve got FOX on while I work and I’m dumbfounded that the idiot reports keep down playing the connection between Ayers and Obama. I’ve lost count of them saying it’s exaggerated and so forth. There are a few points noted how the Obama campaign is “coming unglued” at the questions.

I’ve written on the topic before at NoQuarter and on my own blog. The evidence and many admissions by people around Obama of the connection and friendship is very clear. It definitely is not a question of Obama being 8 years old when Ayers was bombing the Pentagon. These two guys worked together while Obama was an adult. Obama worked for Ayers and together they spent over $160 million dollars. I’m sorry, I don’t know anyone throwing money around like that without knowing the people doing it. Plus, the spending was to fulfill Ayers’ agenda.

Comment by jangles | 2008-10-06 13:27:28

It’s really amazing that Fox news daytime seems to be clueless about what Hannity put together and aired Sunday night. Don’t they talk to one another?

 
 

Comment by [CHANGE YOUR USERNAME] | 2008-10-06 12:32:41

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Comment by Shiloh | 2008-10-06 12:36:07

I tell you this was all planned months ago. There will be a torrent of stuff now and all of it is designed to bait Obama into denials and lies then release documentation that has been held back for exactly that purpose.

 

Comment by jrterrier | 2008-10-06 12:38:20

And McCain has to hit the Obama story that this mess is the final score on the failed Bush years and deregulation. Here’s another good analyis.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/05/AR2008100501253.html

 

Comment by Duras | 2008-10-06 12:39:43

As much as I wish it weren’t so, I don’t see how Obama can possibly lose this thing now. Even the “whitey tape”, if it actually exists, may not be enough to pull it out for McCain.

With Wall Street and the economy in free fall along with housing values, voters are reflexively going to vote to put a different party in the White House, never mind which one of the candidates is the more genuine or better qualified (McCain) or which party is primarily responsible for this whole sub-prime credit debacle (the Democrats).

Once again, George Bush sat around with his thumb up his ass and did absolutely nothing as this housing bubble inflated. I defended him for a long time, but I have at last been forced to conclude that he’s simply brain-dead. And now his parting gift to his country and his party is going to be the election of a limp-wristed, wet-behind-the-ears socialist as our next president.

As a Republican, it pains me to no end to see that the percentage of voters identifying themselves as Republicans is now back to where it was right after Watergate. All of the gains that were made in the 80s and 90s have now been lost. Why? Because the reactionary elements of the party slimed a true leader and great American in John McCain in 2000 and instead nominated an idiotic, shallow frat boy who has wrecked both it and the country.

Goodbye, George, you fucking moron. Kindly have the decency to retire quietly to Crawford after Obama’s inauguration in January while we try to rebuild what you and your cronies have destroyed.

Comment by benny | 2008-10-06 12:43:32

obama rebuild? yeah sure, keep dreaming. If you thought bush was the worst, you better get ready for worster if Obama comes into power. he’ll bring change allright, but all hopes will be smashed.

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-10-06 13:28:39

You misread what he wrote. When he said “rebuild” - he meant REAL REPUBLICANS REBUILDING THE PARTY after Bush destroyed it.

 
 

Comment by Shiloh | 2008-10-06 12:44:22

Trolls like you remind me of little kids who cover their heads and say, “you can’t seeee meee.” Obama never had a prayer of winning.

Comment by ottovonblood | 2008-10-06 12:46:11

who’s the blind one? have you looked at polling lately?

Comment by Gal from Tex | 2008-10-06 12:59:51

Polls can be and are weighted in favor of Barry. Try again Otto.

 

Comment by Uña de Gato | 2008-10-06 13:00:08

I remember the polls that said Obama was going to sweep CA, OH, TX and NH in the primaries. How’d that turn out?

 
 

Comment by Duras | 2008-10-06 13:23:21

I am most assuredly NOT an “Obama troll”. I am a registered Republican and I have been a strong supporter of John McCain for many years. I’ve even sent him about $300 this year, which I’ve never done for any candidate before. That’s why it pains me so much that he’s probably going to lose this election when he is CLEARLY the better man. And it’s all because George Bush, schmuck that he is, has basically wrecked the Republican Party’s brand through 8 years of colossal mismanagement and cronyism. I’ll give Bush credit for preventing another 9/11 here in the US and for not giving up the ship in Iraq when almost everyone else in Washington wanted to do so. But in almost every other respect, he’s been a total fuck-up as president. Only Jimmy Carter ranks as low in my lifetime.

Comment by Jackie | 2008-10-06 13:41:47

I live in Virginia. I have been calling people and conducrin polls for John McCain for weeks now.

In over 1000 calls I have had fewer than 125 pro Obama folks.

I have had 330ish undecideds and the rest were hard for McCain.

I am not seeing the spread that the national polls are giving here in VA.

Keep working and fight for every vote.

 
 
 
 

Comment by samb | 2008-10-06 12:40:18

Obama hates to be challenged, If you think about it, it’s smart Obama will have a harder time attacking Palin then McCain. McCain want Obama in a corner, McCain sees his weakness, its Obama’s Massive Ego . I hope there is more attacks from McCain to come.

 

Comment by kavala007 | 2008-10-06 12:41:11

In the last election 122 million people voted. Polls are done using some 1000 to 3000 people. These very same polls had Hillary Clinton losing in a number of states she won. They are your basic joke and are only used for propaganda purposes by the group that is ahead in the polls. Does anyone really believe that polling 0.001% to 0.002% of potential voters has any significance. Give me a break.

Comment by John | 2008-10-06 12:46:43

Kava, you haven’t noticed that the best polls have been very accurate?

What, you think that candidates spent millions of dollars in polling every election cycle- for nothing?

I’d call you a moron, but I think tinfoil-paranoid is more appropriate.

 
 

Comment by NOBAMA | 2008-10-06 12:41:48

Going after Ayers, Rezco and Dohrn is McCain’s entry act to the “whitey” tape. I am eagerly awaiting.

 

Comment by Tom | 2008-10-06 12:42:08

You guys could whine all you want and cry…

I am heading to PA to put in some work for McCain….

Get active and stop whining…..I might print out 1000 negative articles on Obama and post them across the PA STATE

Comment by benny | 2008-10-06 12:46:51

lol. you think this is whining? please expand your vocabulary.

 
 

Comment by Shiloh | 2008-10-06 12:42:39

Obama thinks he can neutralize it all with age old counter attacks like Keating even though everyone knows McCain and John Glenn were completely cleared. He also thinks all he has to do is chant the magic words “racism” and “swiftboat” and the attacks will be foiled. Well I’ve got news for you, the republicans were planning for all that. There is a lot of hard documentation in the form of tapes, videos and documents from abroad to come.

Comment by sarainitaly | 2008-10-06 13:00:10

 

Comment by savage | 2008-10-06 13:21:39

McCain would write in 2002 that attending the two April 1987 meetings was “the worst mistake of my life“. Glenn has described the Senate Ethics Committee investigation as the low point of his life. McCain said, “The appearance of it was wrong. It’s a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do.”

Cleared?

 
 

Comment by ottovonblood | 2008-10-06 12:43:16

I see you nut jobs have moved from the birth certificate on to bigger and more important things.
Idiots.

Comment by countryfirst_obamanever | 2008-10-06 13:05:07

Yeah, bigger and more important than Who is Trig’s mother? FOAD, troll.

 
 

Comment by John | 2008-10-06 12:43:22

Air America is at it again- on Young Jerks, the host first trashes Sarah Palin’s “hick” accent, spreading the smarm on thick. Then he dismisses the Ayers deal, saying “Obama should not be judged on stuff that someone else did when he was eight years old…anyway, whatever happened to Christian Forgiveness?”

On the Bill Press show, the guest host actually started to use the word “repent” when referring to Ayers- as if Ayers has ever apologized for his actions.

Let’s see- if I had a friend for years, and found out that forty years ago, he molested children, and to this day is proud that he molested children and whose only regret was that he had not molested more children, would I remain friends with this guy? Would I expect to be judged based on my decision to call this guy “honorable” and remain friends with him?

What’s so hard to understand about this? The “Obama was only eight” crap is a total smokescreen. He’s not eight years old now. So what’s his excuse for associating, and being PROUD OF HIS ASSOCIATION, with this moron?

Comment by beebop | 2008-10-06 12:46:57

And sitting on two foundations — one of which was paid for by Ayers? PUH-LEASE …. The very notion that 0bama had no idea who Billy is is just outside the um uh ur uh pale.

 

Comment by wodiej | 2008-10-06 12:50:49

excellent analogy….I second THAT!!

 

Comment by Brendy | 2008-10-06 16:47:57

And as early as 2001, Ayres was UNREPENTENT - he stated he ‘wished he had done more’! That was only SEVEN years ago when he said that!

 
 

Comment by Arabella Trefoil | 2008-10-06 12:45:34

Obama is not going to win. Hannity’s program was just the beginning. In the next few weeks Americans will learn about Obama’s associates and his lies.

Obama can’t handle the truth. He’s going to come apart in the debate like a cheap sweater.

 

Comment by Urban Hillbilly | 2008-10-06 12:45:54

IGNORE THE TROLLS!!!

This story with Ayers and Obama is on CNN. It is being reported.

Comment by Arabella Trefoil | 2008-10-06 12:48:56

 

Comment by savage | 2008-10-06 13:16:07

Comment by Urban Hillbilly | 2008-10-06 13:44:37

Which one of the Keating 5 tried to blow up the US Capital?

Comment by savage | 2008-10-06 13:53:33

none of them did. your point?

which one of them accepted contributions of about $1.3 million, and then resisted regulators?

ALL OF THEM!

What happened when the regulators backed off?

FINANCIAL DISASTER!

Comment by Brendy | 2008-10-06 16:49:38

How much money from ACORN has Obama received?

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by Shiloh | 2008-10-06 12:47:39

I think Obama is taking the bait by reacting so panicky about Ayers. It’s the PATTERN, stupid! Ayers, Dohrn, Rezco, Monsour, Wright, on and on and on. Barky doesn’t have anyone in his past who isn’t an America-hater, and his wife is at the top of the list.

Comment by Thinker | 2008-10-06 12:56:32

exactly!!!

Over and over and over we see how Obama seems to become friends with all of these people that hate this country.

You are the company you keep.

If Obama is friends with all of these people that hate American, then Obama hates America as well.

I don’t hang around American terrorists. American terrorists never helped me get a job. I didn’t go to a church for 20 years led by a man that says Goddamn America.

Who does the reference checks for people who want to be the President?

 
 

Comment by Tom | 2008-10-06 12:48:18

Face it guys, We can’ control any narrative on the msm because there in the tank for Obama.

Work hard, use phone banks get the message across

 

Comment by Shiloh | 2008-10-06 12:49:28

This is what you get when you lift the stone of Chicago politics and look underneath - lots of creepy crawly things.

 

Comment by Thinker | 2008-10-06 12:50:07

Obama was in the dark?

I mean, seriously, WTF?

This man has all of these friends that he wants us to believe that he knows nothing about.

He went to Wright’s church for 20 years, but didn’t know about his anti-American “sermons.”

He was friends with Rezko, let the man help buy his house, but didn’t hear about the slumlords tenant complaints, didn’t know that slummy was under investigation.

Now he wants us to believe that eventhough he kicked off his career in the living room of an American terrorist, he didn’t know about Ayers past?

This is such bullshit. I’m so pissed that this clown has made it this far in the campaign to become President of the United States of America.

We could have had Hillary, but those bastards at the DNC felt the need to lie and cheat for Obama.

My question to Dean and Pelosi is this: “Was Obama worth it????”

The Democratic Party threw away the working class, threw away women, threw away seniors, all for Obama??

It’s amazing how they were so willing to throw away their base and the votes of 18 million people for him.

Either they are seriously delusional or Obama is blackmailing them. This doesn’t make any sense.

Comment by kgirl1028 | 2008-10-06 13:17:15

if obama fails to do any resarch before he takes a job, joins a church or buy a house why in the hell would we want him as president. OBama is trying to convince us he’s the one, but for an indiuidual running for a post that involves judgment and decision making, he is proving time and time again he sucks. I don’t care what the bots say, obama isn’t going to win this election, if he get’s in office, it’s because he cheated end of story. And in the end what ever happens to this country is not going to work out for them. you would have thought after eight years of a cheater in office they would know this but it’s so obvious they don’t. Obama’s a failure and lying on mccain, palin, and hillary does not change this. They will rot in a grave of their own making.

Comment by Thinker | 2008-10-06 13:45:17

And I think that a lot of Obama supporters don’t want to admit that they made a mistake. They were fooled.

Also, how can people like Shriver or other Kennedy’s continue to support a man like this?? Are they that afraid that The Clintons will become America’s first family?? Because imo, they already are. Sure, they aren’t perfect but I don’t think anyone on this whole entire Earth could ever accuse Bill or Hillary of being un-American, or not really caring about voters.

And I blame the Obama voters for this mess. A lot of them are low-information voters and I bet you most of us on this site initially tried to warn the Obama supporters in our lives, but they just wouldn’t listen. The shit is about to hit the fan, and it didn’t have to be this way.

We could have had Hillary, and I’m beyond pissed.

 
 
 

Comment by cynic | 2008-10-06 12:50:18

With the rapidly worsening economy dominating the news and economic worries foremost in the mind of nearly every American voter, McCain and Palin are going to obsess about Obama’s aquaintance with an over-the-hill 1960s radical-turned-college professor?

I’m beginning to wonder if they have completely lost their minds. If they can’t keep their focus on an obvious, immediate, serious threat to every middle and working class household in the nation, they’ve got no d-mn business being in the White House.

Comment by Soldier of Christ | 2008-10-06 13:03:58

Listen-you koolaid troll! This country is not for sell to people who have no respect for our values and our land. The flag pin IS important to us- the respect to our troops is important to us- the love for our purple land is important to us….and then you have a guy who hang around domestic anti-white shady characters involved with terror want to decide what policies we should implement with the middleast. His Friends that are thinking of only putting radical socialist values into our policies. You can continue to sell out our country if you wish, but, we will keep presenting the facts and those facts are: Obama is a PLant- a plant developed by the likes of Farrankun, Ayers, Soros, Lewsinky, Wright, and the HOPE, the orgainzation run by American Islam. Something we haven’t forgotten. H.O.P.E. and Obama have had meetings- it is that the public seemed to forgotten that H.O.P.E. promoted Obama before he even stepped in the race. Research it, idiot!

Comment by cynic | 2008-10-06 13:23:24

yadda-yadda-yadda

Just ask yourself how much of a threat what Bill Ayers did 40 years ago represents to America today. You can be angry at him if you want, but Ayer’s isn’t today’s news. He isn’t even yesterday’s news. What Bill Ayers did hasn’t mattered for four decades.

Turn on your television and see what’s happening to regular Americans right now.

Maybe that doesn’t matter to you because it hasn’t affected your own household yet. Believe me, it’s going to be visiting your neighborhood long before Louis Farrakhan, Bill Ayers, or Jeremiah Wright show up. They’re probably sitting at home watching the news and going through their recent mailings from AARP.

Comment by Typical Bitter Whitey Woman | 2008-10-06 13:27:46

Would it matter to you if Obama didn’t write his own memoir?

http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/did_bill_ayers_write_1.htm

 

Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-10-06 13:35:43

you are uneducated, you know. YOu have missed the concept entirely of Ayer’s very CURRENT efforts to overthrow america through reparations and “re-education”. Take a look at obama’s education proposals and you will see bill ayers all over it. HIs saul alinsky tactics are designed to threaten and guilt trip the middle class into voting for him. he is covering up an agenda designed to destroy the middle class, capitalism, and to bring america down from within.

cynic is right. but you don’t have to be so uninformed. If you were educated, you’d be cynical about barky’s hopey changey dopey thing.

Comment by cynic | 2008-10-06 14:09:32

There’s a difference between education and indoctrination. I have little difficulty discriminating between the two.

Why would Barack Obama wish to “destroy the middle class, capitalism, and to bring America down from within”?

(Judging from the market news right at the moment, someone else seems to be accomplishing just that.)

 
 

Comment by kgirl1028 | 2008-10-06 13:46:51

You know it is so obvious people don’t read anymore, did you completely miss asope fables, did you ever pick up a bible, read a myth. My God! Obama is an individual who tells you nothing about himself. You don’t know him, cause he has only ben in the senate for two years and he wants you to elect him. you know people by their friendships the choices they make. You are about to place and individual in a job that is nothing but 100% decision making and you poo-poo the friends they keep. Screw this maybe these people are right. You have the ability to pick your leaders, and this is how much fracken thought you put into it. You have all these rights people would kill to have but you refuse to protect it by researching the people you place in office. See bush ran over us not because bush is bad but be cause dumbasses let him do it. You don’t care, all someone has to do is say all the right thing and you spred them. This bullcrap line of logic is the reason for all of our problems. “birds of a feather flock together” asope said that figure it out and then ask yourself the dumb question why does it matter who he hangs out with.

 

Comment by Obamassiah | 2008-10-06 21:16:26

Ayers, Soros, Brezinsky and all the rest of the Obama gang are going to affect how our government is run if Obama wins. The $$$ that you and I unwillingly give to Acorn through some of the people in this new radical democratic party will be used to take over their poor. In Venezuela, Cuba, or any other socialist or communist country it all starts from the bottom up, getting the poor on your side and convincing them they did not cause their poverty or misery, that it was all the horrible government and horrible corporations fault. The fact that anyone could think that Obama the man that has been so busy continously social climbing and has achieved nothing for the most corrupt, and now crime ridden city in the country is the answer to the economy and that you are going to give this social climber the power of the 11% approval rated senate is even scarier.

 
 
 
 

Comment by [CHANGE YOUR USERNAME] | 2008-10-06 12:50:42

ROFLMAO to the trolls here.

So, let me get his straight…

If Obama knew about Ayers he is a LIAR

If Obama “didn’t know” about Ayers he is STUPID

Which one of those makes him a great leader?

Thought so.

That’s why the only way Obama gets close to the White House is on a tour of DC.

 

Comment by Arabella Trefoil | 2008-10-06 12:51:21

Why is Axelrod claiming that Obama was “in the dark” about Ayers’ history? No lights on?

Comment by Maverick | 2008-10-06 14:17:31

What did Reagan say about socialism?
Reagan video warning of socialized medicine and socialism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

 
 

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-10-06 12:51:46

How can you be “in the dark” about the Weather Underground, unless you’re an idiot who slept through your Twentieth Century History classes?

How can you be “in the dark” when this Ayers guy has a certain additional home-town noteriety in your very own community?

Obama is an inexperienced, clueless CROOK…but he wasn’t “in the dark.” He consorted with radicals because that “worked” in Chicago, that was “acceptable politics” at the local and state level. Now that he’s on the less accepting national stage, he’s trying to deny the bastards who gave him the leg-up in the first place.

He’s not only a liar, but he’s an EXPEDIENT liar. Reminds me of Bush in that respect, actually.

 

Comment by samb | 2008-10-06 12:52:59

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Ignorance_of_Ayers.html
AIDE TELL CNN OBAMA WASN’T AWARE OF ARYERS

ARYERShttp://chronicle.uchicago.edu/971106/justice.shtml
CHECK OUT THE DATE ON THIS ARTICLE MICHELLE KNOWS AYRERS TOO.

 
 

Comment by DanL | 2008-10-06 12:53:59

I was just watching FOX NEWS..They got a text message from John McCain in reference to Barack Obama insinuating John McCain Lies…McCain said Obama is constantly avoiding telling the truth on any questions put forth to him. He then stated if he (McCain) needed to tell any truths about the Keating 5 thing, he would tell the American people and NOT a “CHICAGO POLITICIAN” such as Obama…OHHH Man!!! hehehe GO JOHN!!!

Comment by Arabella Trefoil | 2008-10-06 12:55:45

 
 

Comment by scorbs | 2008-10-06 12:55:41

Repubs need to keep hitting this Ayers stuff, if there is a real connection. Yesterday Obama and his buddies were laughing at the attack. Yet Palin was saying Obama launched some political campaign at the Ayers house. The media must be forced to actually scrutinize obama which they’ve FAILED to do. They accept every excuse Obama and his campaign says, an appalling LACK of journalistic standards.

Comment by Thinker | 2008-10-06 13:04:16

They accept every excuse Obama and his campaign says, an appalling LACK of journalistic standards

- very true, which is why I thought it was joke when the media questioned whether or not Palin was vetted. ??? The same media that refused to ask any hard-hitting questions about Obama. If they asked any real questions about Obama anti-American associations, ask what he was doing at Columbia, we would have Hillary as the nominee and not Soetoro.

Comment by beebop | 2008-10-06 13:09:34

I have to step in and correct you :) …. we’d have Hillary as the nominee and not Soretoes especially now that his are being stepped on and he is whining and crying about it!

 
 
 

Comment by scorbs | 2008-10-06 12:57:08

Obama could cause WW3, with his lack of experience and real hard work interacting with others to get things done. It is not funny to ignore this stuff and to continue playing American Idol with him.

Comment by beebop | 2008-10-06 13:02:11

If — living in Chicago — he didn’t know the opinions of a minister whose church he attended, the financial dealings of a mobster whose money he borrowed, and the terrorist background of a guy he sat on TWO foundations with RIGHT THERE IN CHICAGO … it shows an amazing lack of curiousity so much like George W Bush that America can absolutely not afford an 0bama administration. And I don’t believe any of the BS stories he’s trying to tell, I’m just saying that IF you believe him, he’s GEORGE III.

 

Comment by Maverick | 2008-10-06 14:14:53

Barack Obama (2/19/2008)
And I don’t know about you, but I think it’s about time we made college affordable for every young person in America.

So we’re going to provide a $4,000 tuition credit, every student, every year, but, students, you’re going to have to give back something in return. You’re going to have to participate in community service. You’re going to have to work in a homeless shelter, or a veteran’s home, or an underserved school, or join the Peace Corps.

So we’re going to increase taxation with an even more progressive tax system and all of these students will be working for the state! No wonder the Communist Party USA loves you. College kids WAKE UP!

 
 

Comment by Indy | 2008-10-06 12:57:42

Well, well. I’m sure you’ve all seen the lovely video of the teens waxing about TheOne. Now, their teacher is suspended. But it should go farther than that…the publicly funded school knew the video was created during a school related function.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/06/middle-school-teacher-suspended-obama-frat-spat/

 

Comment by The Robot | 2008-10-06 13:00:00

“If Obama didn’t know in 1995 about the bombings Ayers was responsible for, when did he find out — because Obama was promoting Ayers’ book in 1997, serving on boards with him until 2002, and trading emails and phone calls with him as recently as 2005.”

http://thepage.time.com/mccain-campaign-release-on-obama-and-ayers/

This is looking pretty good so far.

 

Comment by Illinois_gal | 2008-10-06 13:03:42

CHANGE we can believe in… Yep! He’ll CHANGE America alright. Lord help us all!

Comment by Maverick | 2008-10-06 14:07:34

Obama’s Voting Record:
Barak Obama:
Strongly supports an increase in taxes for the wealthiest Americans
Voted NO on raising estate tax exemption to $5 million
Voted NO on supporting permanence of estate tax cuts
Voted NO on permanently repealing “death tax.”
Voted NO on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax
Strongly opposes the reduction of taxes on capital gains
Voted YES on $47B for military by repealing capital gains tax cut
Voted NO on retaining reduced taxes on capital gains and dividends
Voted NO on extending the tax cuts on capital gains and dividends
Supports universal health care which provides access to health care regardless of ability to pay.
Supports increased government spending on health care.
http://
glassbooth.org/explore/index/barack-obama/11/

Limit benefits given to recipients if they have additional children while on welfare? Barak Obama: NO
Eliminate government-funded welfare programs? Barak Obama: NO
http://www.vote-smart.org/npat.php?can_id=9490

 
 

Comment by Mercedes | 2008-10-06 13:04:53

Wouldn’t the FBI have a whole shelf full of files on Ayers and his lovely wife, Bernadette? I would think that the files would identify his associates. I don’t know who has access to that information. Dick Cheney, probably; he knows everything.

This point of view just conjurs up all sorts of possibilities in my mind. But we need to see how this all plays out.

 

Comment by Paul3triple | 2008-10-06 13:06:47

Listen, all of you need to start going to widely visited sites such as politico and so on.
Post links to Youtube clips of Obama and Odinga.
That is the shot that will put him away.
There are loads of youtube video’s of the two in Kenya last year and 06 with obama campaigning together.
Start calling into talk radio and pushing the Odinga story and Al-Monsour. Those are 2 radical connections that will end him.
Odinga is important. Odinga massacred christians after he lost to the point there was so much bloodshed they made a power sharing agreement.
The kenyan Government called Obama Odinga’s stooge.
Odinga himself is on tape saying Obama’s father is his Maternal Uncle. Meaning they are first cousins.

Start spamming sites like politico with video links from youtube. Go everywhere with alot of traffic and spam them with odinga. He is a murderer that Obama helped come to power, just a year ago.
Odinga signed a document of Jihad and is trying to enforce Sharia Law.
America needs to know this stuff.

What about that Freedom Fighter? Do you really think it does not matter that every influential figure in Obama’s life has wanted the overthrow of our government and violence against whites and the destruction of isreal?
It does not bother you that Obama’s teenage mentor was a communist and author of child pornography books? Obama’s own site says Frank Marshall Davis was his mentor. What can you say? How do you know there is not much much more to obama with all of the evidence mounting?
I know you are a dem(like myself) that just hates repubs but are you willing to be so blinded by your hatred you will turn the keys to the kingdom over to a guy who refuses to talk about or give info about his life in the 80’s. No one from columbia knows him except a drug addict homo he lived with. No one knows how he got into Harvard, but a guy in an interview said Al-Monsouur founder of the panthers had been raising money for obama to go and lobbying him and others to get in.
Al-Monsour also believes that me and you(if you are white) should be killed and god wants us murdered and maimed.
All on video. Concrete proof of this stuff.
Are you really just going to close your eyes plug your ears and act like it is not there?

Comment by savage | 2008-10-06 13:13:28

desperation at it’s greatest.

you guys sure are cute.

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-10-06 13:34:12

If we are the “desperate” ones, WHY ARE YOU HERE? If you think you have it wrapped up, why would you bother with a site like this one?

Comment by savage | 2008-10-06 13:45:08

“When you see your opponent sinking, throw the son-of-a-bitch an anvil”

Comment by kgirl1028 | 2008-10-06 14:00:51

We are not you opponent dumbshit. We are your fellow citizens. However this does give us a view into the mind of an obamabot. obama has you so screwed up you can’t even think straight.

Check this out. This is why these jerk offs come on here. We are trying to figure out how to promote McCain. You should be trying to promote your candidate. I know i sure as hell wouldn’t care who you voted for if you left me the hell alone, but obama has the weak minded little trolls thinking they are in this shit that we are the enemy cause we don’t like your master.

Look keep you childish wisdom. If you were so sure you had mccain beat you wouldn’t care. Who are you trying to fool, you aren’t even a baby boomer, you aren’t gen x you are generation y did your parents have you, which means you have no forethought, no self control, and absolutley no self-motivation. So the only reason you would be on here is because, your ass is scared. motivation is something that burned out of the american gene pool almost 20 years ago, you have none. Go tell it to someone who doesn’t have cousins and siblings your age. You guys invented the word procrastination the only reason you are on here is cause you guys are scared.

 
 

Comment by Thinker | 2008-10-06 13:53:20

They don’t have it all wrapped up.

They display a false sense of bravado, and I see right through it.

 
 

Comment by Maverick | 2008-10-06 14:12:22

Hows this for desperation? Let it R.I.P. Sarah!

Obama gets an endorsement from the “Communist Party USA”
“Our Party actively supported Obama during the primary election.”
http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/858/1/39/
Criticisms of socialism
# 1 Reduced prosperity
# 2 Distorted or absent price signals
# 3 Reduced incentives for workers
# 4 Slow or stagnant technological advance
http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticisms_of_social ism

 
 
 

Comment by Maverick | 2008-10-06 13:07:01

Axlwrod says “Obama was in the dark about billionare Ayers.” SoetorObama was not in the dark. He was in Ayers fancy, well lit living room jump starting his political career. How cozy can you get?
Ayers inherited all his money from his Daddy. He never worked for it and was born with a gold spoon in his mouth. After being so privledged, at 17 years old he decides to bomb government buildings and judges homes and he is a threat to this day. What an ungrateful pig. Birds of a feather flock together. Make no mistake about it.

 

Comment by katmandu | 2008-10-06 13:08:15

A mini scandal. The Jewish Council for Education and Research, a pro-Obama group run by Sarah Silverman among others, came up with a video that has Israelis up in arms. Israeli officials were interviewed and then their comments were taken out of context. There are stories at http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1222017470356&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/110672.html

“This is pure and simple deceit,” said Dayan, a former deputy military chief of staff and national security adviser. “I never expressed support for Obama, his approach or his opinions. I’ve also never expressed support for McCain. I think that these are respectable people, but we should not interfere in the American elections.”

Halevi, a former Mossad chief, is quoted as saying Obama is “very impressive.” But he added he thought McCain was also impressive, a comment that was not included in the film.

“I was asked at the end of he interview who I support, and I said that I didn’t think it was appropriate for an Israeli citizen to give such advice to an American voter on who should be the U.S. president, just as I think it is not proper that an American citizen give advice to an Israeli citizen who should be the prime minister of Israel.”

He said his last comment was not included in the film either.

Alpher was also angered by what he called “an act of deception.”

“I made it very clear that I did not wish to take sides in the American elections,” he told the AP. “I never would have given the interview had I known that they would edit my words into a film that endorsed either candidate … they really misrepresented the purpose of the film.”

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/10/06/news/ML-Israel-Obama.php

Really classy, Obamabots.

 

Comment by countryfirst_obamanever | 2008-10-06 13:11:04

McCain’s Monday Remarks in Albuquerque:
My opponent has invited serious questioning by announcing a few weeks ago that he would quote — “take off the gloves.” Since then, whenever I have questioned his policies or his record, he has called me a liar.

Rather than answer his critics, Senator Obama will try to distract you from noticing that he never answers the serious and legitimate questions he has been asked. But let me reply in the plainest terms I know. I don’t need lessons about telling the truth to American people. And were I ever to need any improvement in that regard, I probably wouldn’t seek advice from a Chicago politician.

Read the rest … it’s good.
Link button not working …
http://thepage.time.com/mccains-monday-remarks-in-albuquerque/

 

Comment by Maverick | 2008-10-06 13:11:14

A middle America Democrat is not the same animal as a Massachusetts, New York or California Democrat. He or she may be fiscally conservative, in support of the Second Amendment and of the war on terror and may very well even be pro-life. This is exactly the type of Democrat to whom John McCain can appeal. There are also a lot of independent votes he can win here.

John McCain and Sarah Palin can still win this election. In the same way that Democrat primary voters spent the latter races handing victory after victory to Hillary Clinton, the voters of Omaha Nebraska, Iowa as well as other farm belt areas and the rest of the nation will spend the next month soul searching as to whether they can really vote to put a radical like Barack Obama in the White House.

 

Comment by jangles | 2008-10-06 13:12:30

Obama did not know the racist, Black Power theology of his pastor of 20 years; he does not know about Ayers even though he served with him for some 8 years???? This guy is too uninformed to be POTUS.

 

Comment by Paul3triple | 2008-10-06 13:13:03

yes Maverick, what is even more sickening is this man is a proffesor in our schools. A man who has killed and bragged of bombing poeple is pushing radicalism in our schools and with Obama heading the Annenberg challenge Obama gave nearly 160 million dollars to radical activist to liberalize our schools.
Obama and Ayers are friends and conspirators in the destruction of america’s youth in chicago.

What did obama organize by the way? Chi-Town is one of the most deadly places in america and has the largest task force for corruption.
Evil is afoot.

 

Comment by Paul3triple | 2008-10-06 13:15:17

Listen, all of you need to start going to widely visited sites such as politico and so on.
Post links to Youtube clips of Obama and Odinga.
That is the shot that will put him away.
There are loads of youtube video’s of the two in Kenya last year and 06 with obama campaigning together.
Start calling into talk radio and pushing the Odinga story and Al-Monsour. Those are 2 radical connections that will end him.
Odinga is important. Odinga massacred christians after he lost to the point there was so much bloodshed they made a power sharing agreement.
The kenyan Government called Obama Odinga’s stooge.
Odinga himself is on tape saying Obama’s father is his Maternal Uncle. Meaning they are first cousins.

Start spamming sites like politico with video links from youtube. Go everywhere with alot of traffic and spam them with odinga. He is a murderer that Obama helped come to power, just a year ago.
Odinga signed a document of Jihad and is trying to enforce Sharia Law.
America needs to know this stuff.

What about that Freedom Fighter? Do you really think it does not matter that every influential figure in Obama’s life has wanted the overthrow of our government and violence against whites and the destruction of isreal?
It does not bother you that Obama’s teenage mentor was a communist and author of child pornography books? Obama’s own site says Frank Marshall Davis was his mentor. What can you say? How do you know there is not much much more to obama with all of the evidence mounting?
I know you are a dem(like myself) that just hates repubs but are you willing to be so blinded by your hatred you will turn the keys to the kingdom over to a guy who refuses to talk about or give info about his life in the 80’s. No one from columbia knows him except a drug addict homo he lived with. No one knows how he got into Harvard, but a guy in an interview said Al-Monsouur founder of the panthers had been raising money for obama to go and lobbying him and others to get in.
Al-Monsour also believes that me and you(if you are white) should be killed and god wants us murdered and maimed.
All on video. Concrete proof of this stuff.
Are you really just going to close your eyes plug your ears and act like it is not there?

Comment by Liz B | 2008-10-06 13:44:54

Do you think the white people who support Obama believe an Obama t-shirt will make their whiteness invisible? I don’t think their voting for him is going to matter when shit goes down, in fact, ironically, if being white becomes a death sentence, the dumbasses who elected him will probably be laughed at, and then killed.

Comment by Kal | 2008-10-06 14:10:33

Seems silly, but lots of white middle class and professional class men I know are channeling Obama and black oppression. Very strange sort of identification with the oppressed that is going on. I know that white men have felt victimized by a lot of things (the women’s movement, queer movement, youth movement, antiracism movement), but is this sort of how they get to be the victims for a change. ??

 
 
 

Comment by Johnny at Work | 2008-10-06 13:17:26

It is impossible to go to Columbia and not know who Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground were. This is espececially so for someone who has Community Organizer and Political aspirations.

SDS and the Weather Underground had their foudation in Columbia University.

Columbia University has several web pages on SDS and the Weather Underground. It is woven into the fabric and history of the school.

Just like at Notre Dame, everyone knows who Knute Rockney, the Gipper, and Rudy were, when you attend Columbia, you know who Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground were.

 

Comment by Maverick | 2008-10-06 13:18:49

Obama himself attended socialist conferences in the 1980’s and lectured his family after attending these conferences.

“He went to socialist conferences at Cooper Union and African cultural fairs in Brooklyn and started lecturing his relatives until they worried he’d become “one of those freaks you see on the streets around here.” ”

Source: New York Daily News:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/01/14/2007-01-14_obamas_quiet_yrs_ in_nyc_pols_rise_stu ns_.html

 

Comment by tillthen | 2008-10-06 13:22:28

Do you think Axelrod helps Obama make up the falsehoods when asked about embarrassing topics like Kenya, Ayers, Rezko, et. al.?

I know its not fair to judge people by their appearances, but when the POS, Axelrod, speaks, it sounds genuinely phony and looks thusly as well. Thusly? Does that work?

 

Comment by Maverick | 2008-10-06 13:22:40

Obama attended meetings with the “Chicago Democratic Socialists of America”
From their website: “Our mission is to establish democratic socialism as a political force in the United States and around the world by training and mobilizing socialist activists to participate in a vibrant and diverse socialist organization at both the local and the national level.”

In 1996 Barack Obama attended one of their meetings:
“Over three hundred people attended the first of two Town Meetings on Economic Insecurity on February 25 in Ida Noyes Hall at the University of Chicago. Entitled “Employment and Survival in Urban America”, the meeting was sponsored by the UofC DSA Youth Section, Chicago DSA and University Democrats. The panelists were Toni Preckwinkle, Alderman of Chicago’s 4th Ward; Barack Obama, candidate for the 13th Illinois Senate District; Professor William Julius Wilson, Center for the Study of Urban Inequality at the University of Chicago; Professor Michael Dawson, University of Chicago; and Professor Joseph Schwartz, Temple University and a member of DSA’s National Political Committee.”

“A true welfare system would provide for medical care, child care and job training. While Barack Obama did not use this term, it sounded very much like the “social wage” approach used by many social democratic labor parties. ”

Source: Chicago Democratic Socialists Website:
http://www.chicagodsa.org/index.html
http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/…hive/ng45.html

 

Comment by Maverick | 2008-10-06 13:25:02

Obama Campaign Workers Seen With Communist Cuba Flag Depicting Marxist Che Guevara on it. Other Obama supporters “Che” Sympathizers

For those of you who don’t know who Che Guervara is:

“Guevara later served as Minister of Industries, in which post he helped formulate Cuban socialism”
“Guevara played a key role in bringing to Cuba the Soviet nuclear-armed ballistic missiles that precipitated the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962. During an interview with the British newspaper Daily Worker some weeks later, he stated that, if the missiles had been under Cuban control, they would have fired them against major U.S. cities.”

http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara

Comment by beebop | 2008-10-06 13:28:18

You might want to send this to 0mama since he obviously wants to get ahead on the information curve!

Comment by Zeke | 2008-10-06 18:10:28

THE REAL CHE GUEVARA
“Crazy with fury I will stain my rifle red while slaughtering any enemy that falls in my hands! My nostrils dilate
while savoring the acrid odor of gunpowder and blood. With the deaths of my enemies I prepare my being for
the sacred fight and join the triumphant proletariat with a bestial howl!”
“Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his
natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine. This is
what our soldiers must become … ” Che Guevara

From the reports I heard when he was captured, he wasn’t so full of hatred then. He was cold, tired and wounded after being chased by “They Who Shall Be Unnamed” and when they caught him, they killed him. A Bolivian operative, more like a small time hood, had Che’s head and hands cut off and collected on the reward twice.

Che’ Guevara was responsible for the documented murders of 180 Cuban citizens. He was a piece of shit.
Anyone who idolizes him is, to me, less than that.

 
 
 

Comment by Johnny at Work | 2008-10-06 13:27:57

Columbia University is where Obama learned of William Ayers, and first met him.

SDS originated in Columbia, and the Weather Underground became the violent offshoot for those who felt peaceful demonstration was not enough.

Mark Rudd was a leader of the 1968 Columbia University strike against the Vietnam War and racism, the last National Secretary of Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), the largest radical student organization in the country in 1969, and a founder of the Weather Underground.

http://www.markrudd.com/Homepage/Who%20is%20Mark%20Rudd.htm

William Ayers ties to Columbia and Mark Rudd go back to 1968. It is undoubtedly where Obama first met Ayers.

As a Columbia Student interested in “Community Organizing” meeting Ayers would be like a Buddist meeting the Dalai Lama. Ayers would be the ultimate mentor for Obama’s organizing ideology.

SDS started in Columbia. From Columbia, SDS organized on many university campuses, of which, UM was one.

The Weather Underground was the violent offshoot of SDS. The Weather Underground was started in Chicago, during the 1968 Democratic Convention.

SDS members from campuses across the US met in Chicago during the convention. The radical offshoot split from SDS during the convention and started it’s rampage of violence during the convention.

As a leader of the New Weather Underground, Ayers found a home at Columbia, where SDS got its start.

Comment by Typical Bitter Whitey Woman | 2008-10-06 13:38:48

Obama was a member of SDS at Occidental.

Comment by Patrick | 2008-10-06 13:41:21

How do you know this? Why hasn’t that been covered on any of these blogs?

 
 
 

Comment by Patrick | 2008-10-06 13:34:21

TAKING MATTERS INTO OUR OWN HANDS:

Clearly the McCain camp is taking too long to bring out the information that Americans should know about Obama. I understand the sensitivities of it all, but McCain has to hit now and he has to hit hard.

Here is what I propose: EVERYONE READING THIS COMMENT, should contact the RNC at 202-863-8500 and state that we want McCain to ask Obama, IN THIS DEBATE TOMORROW NIGHT, about “Why has he not allowed any of his college records to be released or why has no one he knows from any of those years, come forward stating they know him?”

THIS QUESTION WILL BE A TIMEBOMB THAT EVEN THE MSM WILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE NEXT DAY. This is one area where we, the average Americans, can make a difference.

CALL THE RNC NOW and spread the word on other blogs for McCain to do so!

 

Comment by katmandu | 2008-10-06 13:36:59

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/06/mccain-blasts-obama-democrats-for-fannie-mae-meltdown/

McCain is finally taking off the gloves about Fannie Mae, directly accusing Obama of lying.

Senator Obama has accused me of opposing regulation to avert this crisis. I guess he believes if a lie is big enough and repeated often enough it will be believed. But the truth is I was the one who called at the time for tighter restrictions on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that could have helped prevent this crisis from happening in the first place.

Senator Obama was silent on the regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and his Democratic allies in Congress opposed every effort to rein them in. As recently as September of last year he said that subprime loans had been, quote, “a good idea.” Well, Senator Obama, that “good idea” has now plunged this country into the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.

To hear him talk now, you’d think he’d always opposed the dangerous practices at these institutions. But there is absolutely nothing in his record to suggest he did. He was surely familiar with the people who were creating this problem. The executives of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have advised him, and he has taken their money for his campaign. He has received more money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac than any other senator in history, with the exception of the chairman of the committee overseeing them.

Did he ever talk to the executives at Fannie and Freddie about these reckless loans? Did he ever discuss with them the stronger oversight I proposed? If Senator Obama is such a champion of financial regulation, why didn’t he support these regulations that could have prevented this crisis in the first place? He won’t tell you, but you deserve an answer.

Comment by Zeke | 2008-10-06 18:21:44

“…he has taken their money for his campaign. He has received more money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac than any other senator in history, with the exception of the chairman of the committee overseeing them.”

That, dear friends, is Barney, the “Big Purple Dinosaur” Frank, whose ex-lover was second in command at Fannie’s ‘new business’ bureau and directly benefitted from pillow-talk.
McCain MUST bring this out, too. The MSM will fight tooth and nail to keep from these stories. McCain’s best chance is to force a response from Barry and the MSM that they can’t deflect or dodge. Ayers, ACORN, Fannie and Frank.

 
 

Comment by Patrick | 2008-10-06 13:38:05

I suspect, that if all the college records were revealed by Occidental, Columbia and Harvard (particularly Occidental), that is will show he applied with “Kenyan citizenship”. That would explain how a self proclaimed “bad student, with bad grades” got into this college (and the others). Many colleges will lower the standards to admit student listed from other countries to make their enrollment stats look more appealing.

Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-10-06 13:58:27

HI Patrick, always glad to hear your comments.

My own view is that Obama probably had someone else take the classes and tests for him at Columbia.

But its time for this unknown candidate to come clean about everything. He is running for POTUS for gods’ sake!

Comment by athy | 2008-10-06 15:00:55

Dr Kate-

You may be correct.

Not sure if you have read this article containing interview with Webster Tarpley-

Read what he says about Sen Obama’s missing college/law school years ….

16 May 2008 |
The men behind Obama: interview with Webster Tarpley
By Daan de Wit

http://www.deepjournal.com/p/7/a/en/1497.html

P.S Maverick, this may be of interest to you too
re: Communism.

 
 
 

Comment by Maverick | 2008-10-06 13:41:10

Many Obama supporters on his website see “Che” as a hero: add the http:// in front of each URL

my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/CjjF

my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/CjjF

my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/gGJKjv

my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/gGB5hc

my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/CLmp
my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/gGGMQB
my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/gG5SSr
my.barackobama.com/page/commu…t/marisela/BV3
illinois.barackobama .com/pa…rd/public/CC8v
my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/gYQqz
nevada.barackobama.c om/page…/public/gGVCjm
iowa.barackobama.com /page/c…up/IowaHQ/CJQ3
my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/gGNXhB
my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/gGv3LW

 

Comment by Maverick | 2008-10-06 13:43:17

Obama Wants to Normalize Relations with Communist/Socialist Cuba
Source: Obama Himself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqO37BBhCqY
(This pizzed off a lot of Cuban Americans that fled from Communist Cuba)

 

Comment by Maverick | 2008-10-06 13:47:11

Obama’s mother, Stanley, attended classes in high school where there was a member of the Communist party on the school board. 2 teachers that highly influenced her life taught about Communism and Marxism.

“In 1955, the chairman of the Mercer Island school board, John Stenhouse, testified before the House Un-American Activities Subcommittee that he had been a member of the Communist Party.
At Mercer High School, two teachers — Val Foubert and Jim Wichterman — generated regular parental thunderstorms”
“”I had them read ‘The Communist Manifesto,’ and the parents went nuts,” said Wichterman”
“For Stanley Ann, the teachings of Foubert and Wichterman provided an intellectual stimulant”

“Obama called his mother “the dominant figure in my formative years. . . . The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics.”

Source: Chicago Tribune
http://www.chicagotribune.c om/news/politics/chi-0703270151mar27,0,51 57609.story?page=1

No_Socialism

 

Comment by Maverick | 2008-10-06 13:50:46

Here’s a repost of the above broken URL
Source: Chicago Tribune
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0703270151mar27,0,51 57609.story?page=1

Comment by athy | 2008-10-06 14:50:09

Maverick,
Here is a Times article on Sen Obama’s mother.
Acc to article, she met Sen Obama’s bio dad during her first semester at University of Hawaii when they were both taking a Russian language course.

Sen Obama NEVER talks or wirtes about his mother.Why not?

This woman had a PhD. She worked on setting up BANKING PROGRAMS in several countries in Asia.
Read this article…

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-2,00.html

 
 

Comment by hootnannie | 2008-10-06 14:23:22

Gee, if Bobo is so dense that he didn’t realize the facts about Ayers, Rezco, and Wright–for starters–then what will HE see in Putin’s eyes?! And did ole’ Bobo just hear about the accusations regarding Ayers? Why didn’t he protest several months ago? Lord have mercy, how can ANYONE even think of putting this man in the Oval Office? Either he’s one of the biggest liars or biggest fools on the planet!!

 

Comment by Arabella Trefoil | 2008-10-06 14:34:27

McCain on Fox and boy he rocks!

Glove off, bay bee.

Comment by LookingForwardTo2012 | 2008-10-06 14:50:18

Extremely impressive. JohnnyMac has chosen exactly the right time for this type of campaigning.

Maybe other news outlets will join Fox and the mainstream media will begin to do their jobs by finally vetting Barack Obama, now.

 

Comment by Deb | 2008-10-06 15:07:19

Whoa- McCain hit Barry with both barrels- blasted him!

What a terrific speech- nailed him on Fannie and Freddie- and that was just the beginning. Fantastic! Now- get ready for cries of racism- and when they start- let McCain say- SEE? When Sen. Clinton brought these questions up- they claimed the same thing!

Comment by fif | 2008-10-06 15:29:46

They’re trying to dig up Keating 5. Ridiculous. Let’s ignore McCain’s record for 26 years, and find something for which he was exonerated. Are they going to go after John Glenn too?

 
 

Comment by fif | 2008-10-06 15:31:02

 
 

Comment by Patrick | 2008-10-06 14:52:47

Did everyone call the RNC yet to get McCain to ask Obama DURING THE DEBATE “Why won’t you release, UNEDITED, any and all records from Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard?” He should then further make a public challenge while millions of us are watching stating “I challenge you, Senator Obama, to allow the release all of these records tomorrow”

RNC 202-863-8500

It wouldn’t hurt to contact the McCain headquarters to state the same thing.

 

Comment by fif | 2008-10-06 14:52:51

That Axelrod excuse is absolutely pathetic. You know what’s worse? People will eagerly believe it. Just like we are supposed to believe that he had no idea what Rev. Wright’s ideology was, and he had no idea that Rezko was unethical, despite the fact that all of Chicago knew he was under federal investigation.

Obots are blind when it comes to Obama. That’s what is frightening, and the media will willingly sell the lie. This morning Andrea Mitchell was on TV citing the NY Times story as PROOF that Obama is not close to Ayers. That is exactly what happened with the war. Bush & Co. planted stories in the Times with Judith Miller, and then they cited the Times as proof that it was true.

Comment by athy | 2008-10-06 15:06:33

fif-
That is what radio host Tom Hartman did too-he cited NYT article as PROOF that Sen Obama’s relationship with Ayers was casual and that the Republicans are out to swiftboat Sen Obama.

I cant believe the NYT would write an article like this ignoring all the well researched info out there which provides excellent support for the contrary situation (close personal/professional relationship) being more likely.

And they are doing this so close on the heels of the Judith Miller Iraq’s WMD fiasco is UNBELEIVEABLE
and UNFORGIVABLE

Comment by fif | 2008-10-06 15:27:23

The McCain camp should create a commercial of Obama and his friends with clips of him denying every single relationship exactly the same way:

Rev. Wright:
“I was not in the church that day” & later
“He is not the man I knew 20 years ago.”

Rezko:
“He is not the man I knew.”

Ayers:
“Just some guy from my neighborhood.”

Kahlidi:
“A professor that I knew casually at Columbia.”

etc. etc. etc. He is a compulsive liar, and gets away with it.

 
 
 

Comment by Lindsy | 2008-10-06 15:56:41

I honestly think Americans will elect Obama despite his questionable associations. Our country really is that selfish and stupid.

 

Comment by Deb | 2008-10-06 15:58:33

Anyone want to hear the video of McC this afternoon in New Mexico?

The beginning is normal stump- but then he gets into it :)

http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/includes/templates/library/flash_popup.php?pID=281630-1&clipStart=&clipStop=

 

Comment by whoframedrudy | 2008-10-06 16:02:38

McCain should tie Ayers to Obama’s base.

Obama supporters see nothing wrong with the Weathermen. Bill Ayers is their hero. Bill Ayers knows he can sell books on Daily Kos by stomping on the American flag. These are the people who are giving Obama money and trying to foist Obama on America.

 

Comment by donnal | 2008-10-06 17:10:44

How could he not know?

He has been sitting in Rev Wright’s church since at least 1985, and Wright knows who Wm Ayers was.

It is possible that his friend Frank Davis may have introduced them back at his Columbia days?

Why does he not have any friends to come forward, well other than Larry Sinclair.

Take a look at his district in Chicago, either this man is a fool or needs glasses, how could he not know what is happening around him?

 

Comment by firefight | 2008-11-23 23:27:49

Your comments are all so comical now that it’s over…

 

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