Comments on: Missing Bin Laden http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:32:38 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Dalton Fury http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-993439 Dalton Fury Mon, 03 Nov 2008 03:15:28 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-993439 cmsmith, the CIA folks, including Gary Bernsten, were professional, aggressive, relevant, and brave during the entire battle of TB. There is no hidden agenda or implication of blame on the CIA in the 60 Min interview or in the book itself. Gary has nothing to accept any blame about. He did his job spectacularly. As for me, I accept my full share of the blame, which is explained in detail inside the book. cmsmith, the CIA folks, including Gary Bernsten, were professional, aggressive, relevant, and brave during the entire battle of TB. There is no hidden agenda or implication of blame on the CIA in the 60 Min interview or in the book itself. Gary has nothing to accept any blame about. He did his job spectacularly. As for me, I accept my full share of the blame, which is explained in detail inside the book.

]]> By: Zeke http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-875489 Zeke Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:23:48 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-875489 Workin' I feel for the major... he's the victim of exceptional communications technology. The mission was never his team's mission. It belonged to the CIA dude on the ground and his satellite phone back to Langley, then on up to who? to Larry, Is it SOP to let the top dawg play the mission by phone or what's your guess as to from how high the decision was made. I remember reading that Bill had a shot or eight at UBL and never squeezed, so is this the same thing? Workin’
I feel for the major… he’s the victim of exceptional communications technology. The mission was never his team’s mission. It belonged to the CIA dude on the ground and his satellite phone back to Langley, then on up to who?
to Larry,
Is it SOP to let the top dawg play the mission by phone or what’s your guess as to from how high the decision was made.
I remember reading that Bill had a shot or eight at UBL and never squeezed, so is this the same thing?

]]> By: Zeke http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-875434 Zeke Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:05:24 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-875434 No "dough" puns, please... No “dough” puns, please…

]]> By: red_sleeves http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-873926 red_sleeves Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:29:51 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-873926 <blockquote>We <em>could of</em> had him; we <em>should of</em> had him; but we let Bin Laden get away.</blockquote> Pet peeve.... "Could <em>have</em>... Should <em>have</em>..." I wasn't an operator, I was just a grunt.

We could of had him; we should of had him; but we let Bin Laden get away.

Pet peeve…. “Could have… Should have…”

I wasn’t an operator, I was just a grunt.

]]> By: john http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-873668 john Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:37:42 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-873668 Larry, do you believe 9/11 was an inside job by the Bush administration? If not, then who ordered NORAD to stand down on 9/11? Why was there no criminal investigation of 9/11 by the US attorney from New York? Was the original draft 2001 Patriot Act actually written before 9/11? I would like to hear your views on this. John Larry, do you believe 9/11 was an inside job by the Bush administration? If not, then who ordered NORAD to stand down on 9/11? Why was there no criminal investigation of 9/11 by the US attorney from New York? Was the original draft 2001 Patriot Act actually written before 9/11?

I would like to hear your views on this. John

]]> By: dst http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-872923 dst Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:10:05 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-872923 Comment by Troy | 2008-10-08 14:39:54 "Osama Bin Laden is dead and has been for quite some time" The last few videos of OB kind of look a bit like computer generated images. Comment by Troy | 2008-10-08 14:39:54 “Osama Bin Laden is dead and has been for quite some time”

The last few videos of OB kind of look a bit like computer generated images.

]]> By: Troy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-872747 Troy Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:39:54 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-872747 Osama Bin Laden is dead and has been for quite some time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg Osama Bin Laden is dead and has been for quite some time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg

]]> By: cmsmith http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-871895 cmsmith Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:58:12 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-871895 It's kind of Gary Berntsen to compliment "Dalton Fury" considering that on 60 Minutes "Fury" was not complimentary of the un-named CIA officers who were with him. I saw Gary Berntsen discussing his book on C-SPAN. In that appearance, I didn't find him so critical of the Pentagon, etc., but rather saw - as with "Dalton Fury" - a man confident in his own abilities who was frustrated that he came so close to "getting" bin Laden. Nothing new to find in military histories leaders who felt "if only THEIR plan had been followed ..." Also good to note that 60 Minutes reported that "Dalton Fury" initially thought bin Laden had been killed. Did he then perhaps think that the effort had been adequate? 60 Minutes did not report why follow-up efforts were not made then rather than months later. Do Gary Berntsen and "Fury" share any blame for that? Don't mistake that I blame them. I think both men's stories should be celebrated for the audacious effort and for the success they did have. It’s kind of Gary Berntsen to compliment “Dalton Fury” considering that on 60 Minutes “Fury” was not complimentary of the un-named CIA officers who were with him.

I saw Gary Berntsen discussing his book on C-SPAN. In that appearance, I didn’t find him so critical of the Pentagon, etc., but rather saw – as with “Dalton Fury” – a man confident in his own abilities who was frustrated that he came so close to “getting” bin Laden. Nothing new to find in military histories leaders who felt “if only THEIR plan had been followed …”

Also good to note that 60 Minutes reported that “Dalton Fury” initially thought bin Laden had been killed. Did he then perhaps think that the effort had been adequate?

60 Minutes did not report why follow-up efforts were not made then rather than months later. Do Gary Berntsen and “Fury” share any blame for that?

Don’t mistake that I blame them. I think both men’s stories should be celebrated for the audacious effort and for the success they did have.

]]> By: Smilin' Jim http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-871829 Smilin' Jim Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:44:45 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-871829 "Back when NoQuarter was attracting only about 1500 individual visits a day (December 2005)" It was a much better place then and attracted people with the ability to reason. Speaking of reason This guy was out of the loop. A Major's tiger-tale is superfluous when you know in your heart of hearts that ISI was sandbaging the operation ----- and still is. “Back when NoQuarter was attracting only about 1500 individual visits a day (December 2005)”

It was a much better place then and attracted people with the ability to reason.

Speaking of reason

This guy was out of the loop. A Major’s tiger-tale is superfluous when you know in your heart of hearts that ISI was sandbaging the operation —– and still is.

]]> By: bayareavoter http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-871682 bayareavoter Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:21:02 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-871682 The question for me, Larry, when I read this stuff is WHY? Did someone deliberately screw it up or was it more of the same ineptitude from Bush and the military we saw in mismanaging Iraq? The question for me, Larry, when I read this stuff is WHY?

Did someone deliberately screw it up or was it more of the same ineptitude from Bush and the military we saw in mismanaging Iraq?

]]> By: workingclass artist http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-871511 workingclass artist Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:50:05 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-871511 Soeterobama = WORSE than Carter...in every way Soeterobama = WORSE than Carter…in every way

]]> By: roy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-871493 roy Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:45:34 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-871493 And yet you've thrown your support behind a guy that is Bush III, and will continue ignoring those who attacked us on 9/11. And yet you’ve thrown your support behind a guy that is Bush III, and will continue ignoring those who attacked us on 9/11.

]]> By: Urban Hillbilly http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-871430 Urban Hillbilly Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:29:52 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-871430 Good point. Obama also contradicts himself by saying he will pull troops from Iraq and move them to Afganistan. He is not ending war! Can you please tell me how the anti-war people on the left square this? Good point.

Obama also contradicts himself by saying he will pull troops from Iraq and move them to Afganistan. He is not ending war! Can you please tell me how the anti-war people on the left square this?

]]> By: Urban Hillbilly http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-871401 Urban Hillbilly Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:24:20 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-871401 McCain is absolutely right about this-- Obama needs to shut his mouth. Does Obama honestly think the Pakistanis will support or even have good will towards the U.S. if the Pres. is threatening to attack their country? If so, Obama IS dangerous. If not, he needs to admit a mistake and change his rote response. McCain skewers Obama on this issue. McCain makes Obama look like a chump. McCain is absolutely right about this– Obama needs to shut his mouth. Does Obama honestly think the Pakistanis will support or even have good will towards the U.S. if the Pres. is threatening to attack their country? If so, Obama IS dangerous. If not, he needs to admit a mistake and change his rote response.

McCain skewers Obama on this issue. McCain makes Obama look like a chump.

]]> By: lark http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-871344 lark Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:13:02 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/missing-bin-laden/#comment-871344 No. They are product of my imagination. But think about it. What else can explain Ben Ladin's disappearance? Please. The man is unique, with unique characteristics and by golly where the heck in this wide world can this man hide when his illnesses require constant medical attention. No. They are product of my imagination. But think about it. What else can explain Ben Ladin’s disappearance? Please. The man is unique, with unique characteristics and by golly where the heck in this wide world can this man hide when his illnesses require constant medical attention.

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