Comments on: Which Candidate Wins The “Who Gives A Crap About Me” Contest? A Debate Roundup. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:32:38 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: C.S. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-877188 C.S. Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:40:53 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-877188 <blockquote>Why in hell would you ever want to put a Republican in the White House again?</blockquote> Why in hell would you ever want a <em>political party</em> to put a president in the White House again? Bush? Soertoro/Obama? The track record for both parties is abysmal! Political parties have no Constitutional standing, disenfranchise voters who aren't members of one of the two, and usurp state authority over elections by deciding whose votes will and will not be counted! (i.e. 2008 primaries - Florida and Michigan, Texas vote/caucuses) Don't blame McCain because the system stinks, blame the politicians who put their political party before their <strong>duty</strong> to Country.

Why in hell would you ever want to put a Republican in the White House again?

Why in hell would you ever want a political party to put a president in the White House again? Bush? Soertoro/Obama?

The track record for both parties is abysmal! Political parties have no Constitutional standing, disenfranchise voters who aren’t members of one of the two, and usurp state authority over elections by deciding whose votes will and will not be counted! (i.e. 2008 primaries – Florida and Michigan, Texas vote/caucuses) Don’t blame McCain because the system stinks, blame the politicians who put their political party before their duty to Country.

]]> By: Annie Oakley http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-877039 Annie Oakley Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:08:10 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-877039 Thanks, Ani. I didn't like the debate - calling it a town hall was a joke - and thought McCain's demeanor was not his best. The thing is that even though I was willing to concede it to Obama at the time, the more I've read and thought about what McCain actually said, the more I think McCain won. Watching Obama, I thought my "who gives a crap-o-meter" was broken. I know people are taken with his rhetoric - I don't know why - but my bottom line is that I do not believe he cares for the people of this country. I could not possible vote for someone who doesn't have our best interest at heart. It's one thing to disagree on policy, but fundamental to know we're on the same side. I don't know whose side Barry Jesus Soetoro is on, but my meter says its not mine. Thanks, Ani. I didn’t like the debate – calling it a town hall was a joke – and thought McCain’s demeanor was not his best. The thing is that even though I was willing to concede it to Obama at the time, the more I’ve read and thought about what McCain actually said, the more I think McCain won.

Watching Obama, I thought my “who gives a crap-o-meter” was broken. I know people are taken with his rhetoric – I don’t know why – but my bottom line is that I do not believe he cares for the people of this country. I could not possible vote for someone who doesn’t have our best interest at heart. It’s one thing to disagree on policy, but fundamental to know we’re on the same side. I don’t know whose side Barry Jesus Soetoro is on, but my meter says its not mine.

]]> By: Annie Oakley http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876976 Annie Oakley Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:48:52 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876976 And to brag that you (Kelvin) only come here to laugh at people you find pathetic would indicate a sadistic streak. No wonder he so eagerly anticipates Obama, who has given many indications he doesn't care for us either. And to brag that you (Kelvin) only come here to laugh at people you find pathetic would indicate a sadistic streak. No wonder he so eagerly anticipates Obama, who has given many indications he doesn’t care for us either.

]]> By: AnninCA http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876961 AnninCA Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:44:16 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876961 He didn't look angry at all. Pointed, yes, at times. But only on key points where he needed to be very clear about the differences. And I don't think he's at all irrelevant. I think both parties are in disarray. 58% of Americans want Congress (remember....that's Dem controlled) GONE. He didn’t look angry at all. Pointed, yes, at times. But only on key points where he needed to be very clear about the differences.

And I don’t think he’s at all irrelevant.

I think both parties are in disarray. 58% of Americans want Congress (remember….that’s Dem controlled) GONE.

]]> By: C.S. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876774 C.S. Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:28:58 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876774 Soertoro/Obama is not trying to create a utopia. You don't create a utopia by savaging your opposition, or stealing their votes and delegates, like he has consistently done over his political career. That's just power hungry greed. Utopia - <em>A place of perfection in laws, government, and social conditions</em>. You can't build a utopia on a foundation of lies. Soertoro/Obama is not trying to create a utopia. You don’t create a utopia by savaging your opposition, or stealing their votes and delegates, like he has consistently done over his political career. That’s just power hungry greed.

Utopia – A place of perfection in laws, government, and social conditions.

You can’t build a utopia on a foundation of lies.

]]> By: Read my lipstick http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876676 Read my lipstick Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:04:26 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876676 Phillip, a vote for BHO is a vote for Communism in America. "...he Communist plan to take over America from within, by installing educators at all levels of our educational system, gaining control of the media, getting Liberal judges appointed, recruiting, training and backing people to be elected to public office. snip ...the Socialist Party in Chicago (called the New Party) which Ayers is also a member of...helped launch and finance Obama’s political Career. <strong>Obama…..selected, trained, groomed, and scripted to become the “puppet” leader of the United Socialist States of America."</strong> http://contributors.blogsome.com/2008/10/09/god-bless-you-marion-valentine/ Vote for Democracy. McCain/Palin 08. Phillip, a vote for BHO is a vote for Communism in America.

“…he Communist plan to take over America from within, by installing educators at all levels of our educational system, gaining control of the media, getting Liberal judges appointed, recruiting, training and backing people to be elected to public office.

snip

…the Socialist Party in Chicago (called the New Party) which Ayers is also a member of…helped launch and finance Obama’s political Career. Obama…..selected, trained, groomed, and scripted to become the “puppet” leader of the United Socialist States of America.”
http://contributors.blogsome.com/2008/10/09/god-bless-you-marion-valentine/

Vote for Democracy. McCain/Palin 08.

]]> By: hootnannie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876670 hootnannie Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:02:27 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876670 I'm glad to know others believe Mac connects much better with people than Bobo. When Johnny walks up and addresses someone, you can sense a human link there, but when BO does, it's just like a salesman making a spiel. All the Obamaniac press can say is that "he looked Presidential". Instead of like the flim-flam, bamboozling street hustler he is, I guess....And I too have noticed the scrawniess, and it looks like he's aged years instead of months as well. He must look like a wilted reed in person! And something else I liked was how McCain said we all needed to get involved in the fixing of the economic situation, when Bobo said we need inspiration from the top. I'm sure that suits all his minions who want an emperor who doles out the goodies. I’m glad to know others believe Mac connects much better with people than Bobo. When Johnny walks up and addresses someone, you can sense a human link there, but when BO does, it’s just like a salesman making a spiel. All the Obamaniac press can say is that “he looked Presidential”. Instead of like the flim-flam, bamboozling street hustler he is, I guess….And I too have noticed the scrawniess, and it looks like he’s aged years instead of months as well. He must look like a wilted reed in person! And something else I liked was how McCain said we all needed to get involved in the fixing of the economic situation, when Bobo said we need inspiration from the top. I’m sure that suits all his minions who want an emperor who doles out the goodies.

]]> By: C.S. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876613 C.S. Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:51:32 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876613 He wants to be president and he doesn't know who has veto power in the UN? I learned that before I got to high school. He was back from Indonesia and attending prep school in Hawaii; supposedly graduated from college and went to Harvard Law School; he should <em>know </em>this. That doesn't bode well for those emergency 3:00 a.m. phone calls. Who's going to look these things up for him? Michelle? Sigh...Bush deja vu. He wants to be president and he doesn’t know who has veto power in the UN? I learned that before I got to high school. He was back from Indonesia and attending prep school in Hawaii; supposedly graduated from college and went to Harvard Law School; he should know this.

That doesn’t bode well for those emergency 3:00 a.m. phone calls. Who’s going to look these things up for him? Michelle?

Sigh…Bush deja vu.

]]> By: Phillip http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876587 Phillip Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:45:49 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876587 McCain completely lost that debate... he just looked like an angry old man.... he has nothing new to offer and he can call himself a Maverick all he wants, but he just sounds stupid... Mavericks don't have to call themselves Mavericks... John McCain is a Republican. And the Republican party is a broken party with nothing to offer the American people... its policies do not work... whatever their policies are these days... Why in hell would you ever want to put a Republican in the White House again? The Republicans have done absolutely nothing in the last 8 yrs except screw up this country. Pick an issue and they have screwed it up... I would vote for anyone other than a Republican to be President of this country. And even if I were a Republican, the Republican party no longer even represents Republican values. Bill Clinton was more of a Republican than the Republcian party is right now... the Republicans are nothing but big spending, big government, want to be policemen of the planet, who have trampled on individual rights and the consitution... the Republican party needs to go away and reinvent itself.... it is just full of a bunch of angry white men that are becoming increasingly irrelevant... McCain completely lost that debate… he just looked like an angry old man…. he has nothing new to offer and he can call himself a Maverick all he wants, but he just sounds stupid… Mavericks don’t have to call themselves Mavericks…

John McCain is a Republican. And the Republican party is a broken party with nothing to offer the American people… its policies do not work… whatever their policies are these days…

Why in hell would you ever want to put a Republican in the White House again?

The Republicans have done absolutely nothing in the last 8 yrs except screw up this country. Pick an issue and they have screwed it up…

I would vote for anyone other than a Republican to be President of this country.

And even if I were a Republican, the Republican party no longer even represents Republican values. Bill Clinton was more of a Republican than the Republcian party is right now… the Republicans are nothing but big spending, big government, want to be policemen of the planet, who have trampled on individual rights and the consitution…

the Republican party needs to go away and reinvent itself…. it is just full of a bunch of angry white men that are becoming increasingly irrelevant…

]]> By: C.S. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876494 C.S. Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:17:34 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876494 That was no Town Hall; too tidy, too rehearsed and no one allowed to speak that wasn't pre-approved. Soertoro/Obama wouldn't last one minute in an open debate, I've seen him try to stop hecklers in his friendly crowds: "hold on....hold on...uhhh....hold on..." while he fumbles for an off the teleprompter answer. That was no Town Hall; too tidy, too rehearsed and no one allowed to speak that wasn’t pre-approved. Soertoro/Obama wouldn’t last one minute in an open debate, I’ve seen him try to stop hecklers in his friendly crowds: “hold on….hold on…uhhh….hold on…” while he fumbles for an off the teleprompter answer.

]]> By: C.S. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876443 C.S. Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:05:55 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-876443 I agree that we have some potentially great leaders and we should <em>elect</em> some instead of allowing political parties to use the Peter Principle to <em>select</em> them. Neither party has done a very good job lately; considering all they could come up with were Bush and Barack who share the same conviction that they had already "won" before the first vote was cast and the only major difference I see is that Bush was content to take it one term at a time while Soertoro/Obama has already moved on to his <em>second</em> term in his mind. The greed he displayed in the primaries is still going strong. Does anyone think he'll stick it out more than a year if he is given the presidency? My biggest question is what job does he plan to go after the <em>second</em> year...and how many troops will have to die to satisfy <em>that</em> quest. I agree that we have some potentially great leaders and we should elect some instead of allowing political parties to use the Peter Principle to select them. Neither party has done a very good job lately; considering all they could come up with were Bush and Barack who share the same conviction that they had already “won” before the first vote was cast and the only major difference I see is that Bush was content to take it one term at a time while Soertoro/Obama has already moved on to his second term in his mind.

The greed he displayed in the primaries is still going strong. Does anyone think he’ll stick it out more than a year if he is given the presidency? My biggest question is what job does he plan to go after the second year…and how many troops will have to die to satisfy that quest.

]]> By: elise http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-875748 elise Thu, 09 Oct 2008 07:53:02 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-875748 Ani, Obama also took some words right out of Hillary's mouth: "Energy independence is opportunity and challenge". Some of the youtube videos I saved have been pulled. My brother-in-law has been forwarding emails from the Obama campaign and I wanted to reply with the one in which he was plagiarizing phrases from Patrick, Farrakhan and others, but I couldn't find it. If anyone managed to save it, please post it for me. I thought McCain did a good job last night, but it wasn't a lively debate on either side. Obama seemed to be throwing a drag and didn't smile much. I am so tired of this whole process and a little discouraged. Thanks for your excellent post. You made me want to be part of the conversation again. Ani, Obama also took some words right out of Hillary’s mouth: “Energy independence is opportunity and challenge”. Some of the youtube videos I saved have been pulled. My brother-in-law has been forwarding emails from the Obama campaign and I wanted to reply with the one in which he was plagiarizing phrases from Patrick, Farrakhan and others, but I couldn’t find it. If anyone managed to save it, please post it for me. I thought McCain did a good job last night, but it wasn’t a lively debate on either side. Obama seemed to be throwing a drag and didn’t smile much. I am so tired of this whole process and a little discouraged. Thanks for your excellent post. You made me want to be part of the conversation again.

]]> By: Ani http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-875657 Ani Thu, 09 Oct 2008 07:14:14 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-875657 And don't forget how many times the media declared the McCain campaign dead -- all the way back to last summer. He is still kicking and everyone else fell by the wayside. He's been around a long time and is a very smart, crafty and determined man. And don’t forget how many times the media declared the McCain campaign dead — all the way back to last summer. He is still kicking and everyone else fell by the wayside. He’s been around a long time and is a very smart, crafty and determined man.

]]> By: Bellevue_NW_Voter The Renter http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-875649 Bellevue_NW_Voter The Renter Thu, 09 Oct 2008 07:12:46 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-875649 Awww, he's just one of the local court jesters. The mods here try not to ban folks unless there's a lot of bad language, vulgarity, etc. NQ sees itself as a place for more open discourse than kos, etc. Awww, he’s just one of the local court jesters. The mods here try not to ban folks unless there’s a lot of bad language, vulgarity, etc. NQ sees itself as a place for more open discourse than kos, etc.

]]> By: jd4hill http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-875637 jd4hill Thu, 09 Oct 2008 07:09:43 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/08/which-candidate-wins-the-%e2%80%9cwho-gives-a-crap-about-me%e2%80%9d-contest-a-debate-roundup/#comment-875637 Wow. A very interesting and scary point -- especially with both houses in Dem control. Wow. A very interesting and scary point — especially with both houses in Dem control.

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