Go Fish. Novus Ordo Seclorum
By Eastan McNeal on October 11, 2008 at 1:10 AM in Current Affairs
Well Zbigniew Brzezinski (You know. The guy who kicked some soviet butt by creating the Afghan mujaheddin network, some of which would later form the Taliban and would shelter Al Qaeda camps. Yes. You remember him. He, as he admitted in a post Reagan era interview, and the CIA, “knowingly increased the probability that they (the Russians) would invade” by supporting Afghan rebels before the invasion and drawing the Russians into an “Afghan trap”. ) is getting his wish come true even before he is installed as the leader of the world, run from under the desk in the U.S. Oval Office.
For those who have not been paying attention I add this. ZB is Obama’s top foreign policy advisor. Yes. The Jimmy Carter guy who preached peace by talking to our enemies, while planning wars around the world is now planning to get back into the same seat he had while he piloted our last global nose-dive.
Why should I start this day picking on this man? Well it has to do with a phrase he has used and still utters today.
A New World Order. Yes, I know. That phrase has been printed, in Latin, on our currency ever since we started a government-regulated economy. But I think the treasury founders were thinking the new order would be individual economic freedom, not collective, one-world ownership.
Everybody in the middle can run away now and not read further. Left wing kooks can start salivating for the salvation of socialism and the right nuts can slam their fists on the table and say I told you so. But I am in a fifth dimension. One where product, produce and service have value.
Gordon Brown, the PM of Less Britain, today announced he is considering suing Iceland.
Yes. You read that right. A country is talking about suing a country. Why?
Iceland nationalized its banks this week to control and protect against runs. Heck, the Icelandic PM could have quoted FDR when he suggested that, if people would just chill, it might all just work out. Just read Dr. Heidi Li Feldman’s “Confidence and Cooperation: Franklin D. Roosevelt’s first Fireside Chat – “The Banking Crisis.”
Though I am grateful that the actions taken by FDR saved our nation, I am doubtful that today’s leaders understood his true meaning when he said we need to have “a devotion to public welfare.” I fear that those who advocate a one-world government see this crisis as an opportunity, to be embraced and promoted, to create a downward economic spiral that can only be halted by flat-lining the ownership society.
Here in the U.S.A. we are considering bail-out models that will have the government take partial to full ownership of companies that we help. France, Germany and Holland are moving to the same above-the-flood plateaus – government control and ownership of the once-free market system. We are considering a progressive transfer of private wealth to the commune, under the auspices of a devotion to public welfare.
The first step toward ensuring that the goal of everyone equally owning everything is to first make sure that nobody owns anything. The only path to a functioning socialist democracy is through a temporary trip through a communist demise. In other words, every corporation and entrepreneur must be eliminated and their personal empires destroyed and turned over to the single payer-payee government larges before the collective wealth of the world can be redistributed and shared equally with and for all.
Look. I already told you not to read this far. You should go from here to NPR while you still have a Lemming gene left in your little toe.
Long before my people got stupid and started becoming the new financial power base of Europe by buying up a bunch of British banks that were secretly holding a bunch of ACORN assets, they went fishing. They still do.
Over half of Iceland’s money transferred from other countries into their coffers comes from the export of fish. Making up most the other half is sheep wool and aluminum. Someday hydrogen and direct electricity will be added to their export buggy. They just have to stay nationalistic long enough to not be bailed out by thieves cloaked in shepherds cloth.
You catch a batch of fish. 90% of your catch you sell. 10% you eat. From the proceeds of what you sell, you put some into operating your boat, some into paying your crew, a little bit into living and the rest into saving for a new boat.
I know that sounds silly. It is much easier to go to the bank, borrow a bunch of money, buy into a business that owns businesses, sit on your butt and wait for your money to grow, then sell high. But that is not how this country was built. Sorry to tell you that Wall Street did not finance the pioneer wagon trains that plowed across this great land. Don’t get me started on how high finance pressed DC into allowing the railroads to take those settled lands for the common good of all man.
There is a fine line between socialism and fascism. In the middle is the nationalization of private assets.
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
In the spirit of full disclosure I admit that my family is from Iceland. I am 100% Viking. I have a fishing pole and I know how to use it. There are still some fish in nearby waters. If you wish, you are welcome to come and fish in my stream. But if you come with a trawler and try to take all of my fish for the collective good then remember … as I said, I am Viking.
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Eastan, thank you for this provacative post.
And why anyone would want Zbignieu Brezinski anywhere near our foreign policy ever again is beyond me.
Voila. Another red flag about Barack Obama.
Red being the operative word.
My Brother is a Five foot Viking.. He has A fishing Pole too..and he paddles his own Canoe..
I think Iceland is a Hoot..I think I saw Ziggy fly into Keflavik Once…on His way from Moscow..
Interesting and scary post. I hate to sound like a kook but I keep thinking about Naomi Klein’s Shock Doctrine related to this financial mess.
I know we don’t hear much about Zbig but when I tell my Obot friends/family about him being in Bambi’s inner circle they think I’m crazy. WHY would we want to return to CARTER’S foreign policy?
Do people remember how Nightline started? This is Day 444…..
I really wonder how McCain is going to handle the last debate. Does anybody here think he will bring up Obama associations. He could really set him up if he plays his cards correctly. Although I just don’t see McCain going after him on personal things. I think he needs to hammer home about Fannie& Freddy.
While it is true that certain secretive groups such as Bilderbergers are working for a new world order, I’d like to clear up one thing.
Novus ordo seclorum actually means “new order of the ages.” Doesn’t mean new world order. Sorry.
On the other hand, I could do without that Freemasonic/Illuminist pyramid on our dollar bill.
What they ought to do is get Webster Tarpley or someone in here who can give us a fifty minute lecture about the Grand Orient and how it’s attempting to rule Europe through the European Union.
It is by no means true. That’s just what conspiracy buffs believe.
Great post Viking. My heritage is Scottish.
johninca, here is a link to an article by Tarpley. Very thought provoking.
http://www.deepjournal.com/p/7/a/en/1497.html
Tzada, I just finished reading the link that you posted. Scary, and I believe every word of it. I am going to read it again as soon as my brain calms down. This explains a lot of things that have been going through my mind during this election cycle. Especially since June,2008.
Thanks for the tip. Everyone should read this.
tzada,
The article may explain something I’ve always wondered about: How does Obama keep pulling in so much money? Very frightening!
We really needed Hillary.
Tie a red Ribbon around the ACORN Tree..
The problem is not ZB and his ilk. the problem is that we, as a people, refuse to use critical thinking when making crucial decisions. Novo Ordus Seclorum is not new, it is the hi-falutin goal of the intelligentsia of the 18th century Enlightenment. As such, it proposed a reorganization of global economics and polity which recognized the inherent rights of the individuals inre the state.
We’re still struggling to make that goal a reality. Brezinski is an old cold warrior who sees everything through the lens of the cold war soviet vs capitalist conflict.
Whether we like it or not, it’s a brave new world out there and now we have must think our way out of this – there is no other choice.
You think. I’ll go vote for McCain.
I’m right behind ya…you betcha!
I think People would be happier if the “Thinkers” left them alone..and we all got back to Farming..
While we’re at it, note that Brzezinsky was a member of David Rockefeller’s Trilateral Commission like many members of the Carter administration.
Does anyone remember the Republican Primary debates?? Remember how McCain would totally laugh in the face of EVERYTHING Romney said, basically insinuating that the guy was a joke? Remember how he would say things like “Well, it’s hard to know where you stand on that issue, Governor, because you change your positions so often, we can hardly keep up..”
It was SO effective. McCain used the debate platform as a FREE advertisement for himself, elevating his struggling, dead broke campaign to the nomination.
I wish he would get back into that taunting, testy, sniveling debate mode. It would be effective. And Gutter Ball already behaves that way in debates.
McCain’s lost his nerve. I genuinely think that he’s frightened of Obama. I saw it in his face and heard it in his voice in the last debate. He came across as a kid who’s upset that his friends are impressed with a newcomer that he sees right through. His debate sounded like he was pleading with his friends, terrified he was going to lose them to this horrible little snake-oil salesman socialist shitbag.
I felt sorry for him, to see him lose his nerve like that. The guy has survived explosions, raging fires, imprisonment, torture. And yet in his final battle – against some snot nosed little left wing upstart with a fancy suit – he loses his nerve when face to face with the punk. I hate to say this, but someone needs to get a line of coke or two into McCain’s nostrils before a debate. Let’s see him all cocky and full of himself.
I have pondered that. Is this a cat, squatted down, backed up and fearful? Or is it a lion ready to pounce?
McCain is difficult to read, but I have this unusual confidence in him. I question my support for him. But. I was in the USAF during war time and learned to read my gut about my feeling and how I should decide when to question my gut and when I should just take a person for what they say they are and what they want us to do.
This is a difficult time. I am going to trust this man now.
Democracy Now cited a report that indicates McCain’s campaign has gone 100% negative, as opposed to Obama’s campaign, at around 30% negative. This really surprises me, and is not a good sign.
Perry-
please define ‘negative’.
To me, negative ad is where the ad is promoting a lie, a falsehood.
Attack ad is where the ad is exposing a truth which an opponent mght not want questioned or exposed.
I have seen most of Sen McCain’s ads and TRUST ME PERRY- THEY ARE NOT…NOT negative.
Are they attack ads- YES BUT THEY ARE NOT NEGATIVE.
Sen Obama’s ads where LIES are spread regarding effects of Sen McCain’s policies on social security-these are LIES- These are Negative Attack ads.
Sen Obama’s stomping around the country while promoting ‘unity’ and attacking devisiveness in politics while at the same time promoting racism and telling his supporters to get in people’s faces loud and clear and tell them to vote for Obama- well Perry…in my book that is just NEGATIVE campaigning.
Okay?
And the time has come where Sen McCain MUST increase his attacks on Sen Obama- NO NEGATIVE campaigning-just increase the attacks on Sen Obama’s lies and innuendo’s.
Sen mcCain MUST get the truth out-It is so sad that it is left completely up to an opposing candidate and CITIZENS and Indy journalists to vet another presidential candidate so late in the campaign process.
Thanks DNC…Thanks MSM- I say thanks in a sarcastic manner.
I think the fear is being called a racist. I think it even has the media on the run.
Bingo, you took the words right out of my mouth!
On television this morning (Sat) in response to someone in the audience at a rally urging McCain to fight harder and blast Obama more about his associates, etc., McCain shocked me when he said not to get so bitter against Obama. He said Obama was a fine man whom we wouldn’t need to fear as president. He said that it’s just that he, McCain, would make a better president.
What gives? I nearly dropped my teeth. Is McCain, the old fighter pilot starting to sip the kool-aid? If so, were done, people we don’t have aa chance. Here I was, expecting him to unload all his goodies on Obama at this next debate – as Obama dared him to do – and instead he gives a rounding endorsement?
As I have said before GOD HELP US ALL.
It is not that. McCain knows that attacking Obama is a “trap” and would feed into his Alinsky playbook of “victimology”… Indeed Obama is baiting fot it with the “he wouldn’t say that to my face” remark. Next his will question McCain’s courage and manhood. But if McCain strikes back Obama would fall into this… “Look at how I have suffered for you people… This powerful establishment white man is crucifying me… I am just doing this for you… it’s never been about me… I an the one you have been waiting for… I am the way”. Realizing it probably sounds “kooky” if you haven’t thought about it before. Just because it’s a “kooky” plan doesn’t mean it’s not “the” plan and unfortunately… it doesn’t mean that plan would not work. Combined with the parallel orchestrated attacks on our economic system… and the parallel attack on our election system… and the parallel negative propaganda from the MSM about everything American.
What makes you think that the actions of FDR “saved the nation”?
It is widely recognized among economists now that FDR’s actions exaggerated and prolonged the Depression to an extent which was needless and which caused an untold amount of suffering among millions of Americans.
His New Deal was one of the biggest mistakes in American economic history.
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx?RelNum=5409
Criticizing FDR– brave, but on this site the rough equivalent of yelling, on a downtown Beijing street corner, that Hu Jintao doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Why? I thought this was a conservative website. Conservatives generally agree with the principles of free trade don’t they? (In spirit at least). FDR extorted money from the productive in society in order to fund pointless public works projects which were abused and exploited and paid for with money which could have otherwise been invested in the economy and gotten us out of the Depression far sooner.
I am not as well read in economics to state for certain if I can say FDR did “save the county.” You are right there.
He did demonstrate courage. And he inspired a nation to not fall. We did not fall. Perhaps it was the great will of our great people. Perhaps he could be given some credit for leading us out of a great big problem.
The bottom line is – we survived. I think we will survive this. And we won’t have to go fishing. Although, that is a pleasant alternative to fretting.
Interesting take, although if I held your head underwater for 2 minutes, waited until you passed out and then pulled it out again, I’m pretty sure I could argue that you owed your life to me by similar logic.
Similar logic. Not identical logic. Similar.
If I were criticizing FDR here, I’m not sure I’d begin by going after his populist side.
I’d probably start with the disastrous appeasement of Stalin, which handed eastern Europe (including Poland, for which country’s sake our allies went to war) over to the Evil Empire for forty years.
I have read the same thing as Jason. My parents used to talk about the depression while I was growing up. All I can say is, I want no part of it!
What a whopper!
To be a bit more accurate—two (2) UCLA economists have cooked up this revisionist history.
That’s two guys…
The rest of the world thinks the New Deal lowered the poverty rate from over 50% to around 20%. Republicans have never forgiven the Democrats for this.
Taking money from the productive to give to the poor may “reduce the poverty rate” on a short term basis but it does not lead to the kind of economic growth that is needed to get out of a Depression.
Welfare has always and will always be about paying the poor to stay poor – and taking money from the productive to do so.
It’s a little like taking corn seed from the farmer to feed to the poor. It’s not going to do much for the long term nutritional prospects of the village now, is it?
I don’t care what “the rest of the world” thinks. There are a lot of economists now who recognize the folly of the New Deal, and the reasoning behind it is sound. The Depression lasted far longer than it should have, because FDR stifled the kind of production and economic growth which was needed to end it. You can whine in defense of your hero all you like – he’s no hero to me.
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Riding on The wagon while Uncle ben drives the tractor in from the Field..Watching when Gerald M ilks to Cows..and all the Kittens line up for a Drink..
Go down to the Swimmin Hole in the Summer time..and fishin for trout off the Old railroad Bridge..Comin Back to Aunt Catherins Farm House..and going out in the morning to the Rashberry Bus Outside the Kitchen Door and pickin a Bowl full of rasberrys and coming back in the Kitchen..and Pouring Home made cream all over th berrys..while aunt caterin gets some bacon and Eggs going…and uncle ben talks baseball and says He is gonna take you on on the Lake in the Morning so get to bed early…but dont forget to get some worms and put em in the old Pipe tobacco Cans..Everyone Knows Worms is Best..
Yes Sir..Yes Mame….
And best of all..Uncle bens gonna Teach you how to thrown a Curve Ball..right after you get the Chores done…
You always have good dreams and Sleep Good..
At Uncle Ben and Aunt Catherins..
Not entirely OT: The current economic crisis is caused primarilyby one thing. Businesses are no longer in business to make products. They are in business to make money. F*ck the Economy. F*ck the environment. F*ck the employees. F*ck the customers. Just rake in money.
There is no quick fix. There may be no solution at all. It will be an interesting time for historians 50 years from now. This assumes that we live that long.
guys do you think the palin stuff will be big or will it die down. I am worried. Hopefully the focus on Tuesday’s debate will shift the issue, but it seems like it will be an oppotunity the MSM will not pass
Well when the public that support Obama reads these words how many will trust his character or judgment?
These are two people that Barack and Michelle Obama have been friends or associates with for years. Would they be your friends?
In his book Fugitive Days Bill Ayers omits the following.
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“Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that’s where it’s really at.” He also omits any discussion of his wife Bernardine Dohrn’s famous reaction to the Manson killings, as conveyed by journalist Peter Collier: “Dig it. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!”
For the normal people on this site, just cut and paste this into an email Make sure the young people who love their parents see this. Maybe the old rock star wanna be they idolize will take on a new light.
How many more ghosts of Carter past
will be revisited in this election cycle? Good and somewhat scary article.
I hate to admit it but I voted for that ole goober back in ‘76. That was when I was just out of college and still a democrat. By the next election I went to vote in our little village with my 2 year old son in tow. He entertained the polling ladies with a vote for Reagen cheer.
So much for keeping my vote a secret.
If this turns out to be Carter’s 2nd term may it also be Obama’s ONLY term. This country will not be able to recover if it’s 8 years.
And may God have mercy upon this nation.
Hey! What’s wrong with Jimmy Carter? The economy grew FAR more under Jimmy than it did under the much-touted Reagan boom, and money wasn’t hemorrhaging out of the country under Jimmy.
The 1980 Carter Doctrine, which announced that the United States was determined to dominate the Persian Gulf against all comers, is at the root of the first Gulf War, of the present Iraq war, and of a clash with Iran which could come at any moment.
If it wasn’t for the persons of Jimmy Carter and Zbigniew Brzezinskiwe we might not be in the Middle East at all. It is reality the United States may well have to be there forever. A base there,should another 9/11 happen, could be vital.
Let us not forget that Jimmy Carter went to Syria to meet with Hamas, which is a Federally Designated Terrorist Organization. Also of note, Obama’s church is a supporter of Hamas. Lastly Hamas endorses Obama. The DNC had a member of the Muslim Brotherhood as a keynote speaker. They are a direct arm of Hamas.
Super Delegate Jimmy Carter after his trip to Syria, to meet with Hamas , declared to UK paper The Daily Telegraph: “Obama can transform America’s image“
Is Jimmy Carter back to his old tricks of Regime making? Is Barack Hussein Obama next? Is Barack a made person, as some speculate, molded by Jimmy Carter and Brzezinski? Their influence maybe going as far back as 25 years.
May God bless the souls of those lost that awful day. And may we never forget 9/11
http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=77419
Tzada – Another enlightening read. This is the other traitor in Hillary’s stable. While we were aware of Patti Stolis treachery, we thought Mark Penn was just inept.
Thank you for another great link.
Some facts about Carter:
From 1978 to 1982, the number of poor blacks rose by more than 2 million.
Reagan inherited 21% interest rates, 14% inflation, 12% unemployment and falling incomes.
Some facts about Reagan:
From 1980 to 1989, black household income increased 84%. The number of black owned businesses increased 38%. Receipts of black owned firms doubled. Black unemployment dropped 9%.
Etc.
Don’t forget how much many in the country loved the long gas lines and how much the military appreciated not being paid for two weeks because of a budget fight with Carter. That was fun!
Look Perry, it is way past bedtime for you children. Those of us who lived through the disaster that really was the Carter administration would prefer not to remember any of it after the walk he took until the day he left office. He was an abject failure as President.
Larry I know you never said the tape actually existed, but can you at least give us an update on what your Republican sources are saying, if possible?
Im gonna smoke some Salmon tomorrow..Uncle ben taught me how..Boy now…I consider Smoked salmon
“Goodies”…Like to Break off a Piece and Put it on a saltine Cracker..
Went to a fun Octoberfest last ..Week..they had some goodies…Live Music…Little Kids Dancing and clapping thier Hands…The smell of bratwurst Grilling…Bought my son in Law one good German Beer.. made a Prost and had some Laughs..
Life is still Good..
I got a whole case full of Tapes..good stuff..
I even got the Origional Pong Game..and 15 Baseball caps..and a Dog named Leroy..
and a pickup Truck..
I hardly ever drive the BMW..
Once a Month i take my Wife on a date and we go get this pizza that is Sooooo Good..then we drive on out to the Bay…and watch the Birds and salmon Jumping and look acros and see Snow covered mountains…After Pizza in the Van…we g for long walks along the shore…and i always find wildflowers to pick her…sometimes we find cat tails…and even honey Suckles..
Live is Good…Good as you Make It..
I don’t know Camille, will the MSM EVER report any dirt on the ONE? I think they are afraid of being labeled racist. This whole Obama worship reminds me of Jim Jones and Jonestown and the kool-aid that the people drank willingly. Scary.
Deep down, voters know BO can’t be trusted on the economy, since he has no experience or accomplishments regarding ANYTHING economic related. This will show up in the voting booths on the 4th.
Also, it is laughable that BO is know commending the Clinton years as good for the economy, when he would not say ONE single good thing about the only two-term Dem president since FDR during the primaries. BO did, however, compliment the Reagan economic policies at two different debates (Nevada – MSNBC Debate and South Carolina – CNN Debate).
Obama is a FRAUD.
Oh my, did I just call the faithful followers of the One cultist? Yep and with no apologies.
I wonder if Dems have any ACTUAL idea how many MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of Hillary supporters are telling pollsters they’re voting for BO but are fully intending on voting McCain.
Every one I know that is Democrat is voting for McCain. Not ONE Dem I know is voting for Gutter Ball.
PA anyone?
Same here in WV. ..almost. But, very close.
I did see an Obama sticker. But the garbage men took it away with the rest of the trash.
Gonna have a Fresh Bagle with my Coffee in the morning…Whipped creme Cheese..and fresh Home Made Plum Jam..Bout out of Orange juice..better get some more….
You all Have a Good Nite..Dont forget to call someone you Love or care about..
Lifes Good…Good as you make it..
Since we know the MSM is biased against McCain/Palin, I expect them to be relentless in coverage making a mountain out of a molehill. Palin can make a statement at a campaign rally with a positive, upbeat, “can-do” spirit about the matter and she will be OK.
That is no news.
The question is if someone promise to kill your father-in-law, and you knew that that individual is capable of doing that, what do you do?
It is the worst type of politics that our party DNC and CNN and the rest of them type of media play. It does not have any leg.
Likable, please let it be so. I would rotflmbo if the ONE losses by a landslide or just plain losses by an indisputable margin.
I don’t even care if he loses by a disputable margin. In fact the disputabler the better. Imagine all those cars parked up on the Golden Gate bridge.
DJ, agreed. She has a big rally scheduled tomorrow in PA, and like ALL the other times she has been up to bat, she will hit it out of the park. You don’t take on the establishment of you own party in one of the most corrupt Repub states in the nation and then turn around and shy away from a liberal-funded “ethics investigation”.
Besides, this is a great opportunity for her to talk more about BO’s abuse of power in the form of funneling tax payer money to ACORN to create national voter fraud.
I love how the Obama campaign thinks the GE is a caucus. LOL
OT: What do you all think about the primetime TV ad buys of BO’s? He’s bought 30 minute blocks on CBS, NBC, (and trying for ABC, too, to run at the same time at 8:00PM). McCain should buy primetime TV time , too, for Palin to make her case for McCain/Palin. Palin is the draw on TV. Put it to good use. This may be the only way to get Mac’s message out to undecided voters through, unfiltered by the MSM.
Obanta Claus has also bought ad time on MTV, which previously disallowed campaign ads. They’ve made a special exception for Obomber this year because he’s a rapper and the kids love him.
That suggestion was put out on this blog a day or so before Barry’s bots announced they were going to do the media buy…that McCain needed a 30 minute spot on all channels to lay out his policies/platform and use the last half to dissemble Obama and his minions…Acorn and his ties and how it all adds up in the economic collaspe, and to let him have it about the Saudi backers, Gaza supporters, etc.
Do we read minds here and they had this going all along? Or do they read NQ? It has been done before so Mac should let Barry go first (6 days prior to the election) and then respond with his own 30 minutes the next night.
Do you think they(media) will let him buy time? Bet they find a convenient excuse why they have no time to spare. It will be the final proof that they are Obamabots.
Let for a moment think about the party, my party that claim to represent me, the middle class is spending lots of money.
Who are those contributing money?, and yet we are losing our jobs.
The stock market is plunging, the middle class are being laid off.
Have you ever been employed by a homeless person?
How do you give a tax cut to someone that is not working and did not pay tax to begin with? 95% of Americans gets tax cut. 5% will be taxed? Does it make sensce?
No, but that’s the appeal to many voters of BO…. you’ll get something for nothing.
Obama will let the Bush tax cuts expire so our taxes will increase before he gives his tax cuts. If he raises capital gains I will be forced to sell my mutual funds because every year I pay tax on them without selling.
I don’t have the income I used to have and it will be harder to hold on to my investments.
Gore was ahead by 11 points 8 years ago this week according to a Gallup/CNN poll conducted that year.
That Gore administration sure was great…oh wait…
This will be a close win for McCain, but a win nonetheless.
As much as I used to loathe her, Ann Coulter made a great point today that since 1976 Dem candidates have out-polled Repub candidates up until the day of the GE, and the Repub has still won. The exception being Clinton, of course. God love him.
Interesting to note……I was getting all kinds of polls when I was a Democrat. Friday week ago I became a Republican. Not one poll since nada.
Totally not important, but has anyone noticed how gray BO’s hair is getting?? Fraudulently registering ineligible voters sure can be stressful.
So can smoking crack in the back of limousines. There, I’ve said it.
LMAO
I noticed that his grey was last month on the other side of his head and now it on the other. I think he changed his make up artist.
Eastan:
You sound like a cross between Alex Jones and Huck Finn!
Oh my. Someone who reads.
hey check out the great obama’s friends
http://www.barackbook.com/
that site really nails barack haha
BTW. Camille works for Obama. He pays him to pretend he is a she and post really weird stuff all over the internet late at night.
Camille. STFU and go home. If you have nothing to say, just do not waste people’s time.
Some folks engage in constructive discussions and share observations. Those who just throw bombs are ..
Bomb-Tossers.
Deliberate aggravation is one of the Alinsky urban rules. Do not start a conversation that may be engaged. Submit only fire-bomb statements that can’t be answered. Toss and run.
I would love to hear your declaration of why you think that Obama’s economic plans are so much better than anyone else’s. Being aware, as Hillary and Mac are, of a global economic structure does not mean you should embrace a one-world economy, as the Obi One seems to advocate.
I do not advocate entire closed-door nationalism. But I do believe that each families’ finances are their own business and that dependent economics is a dangerous position.
So…now is the perfect time for the Whitey Tape to come out…
and it hasn’t…
and it won’t.
Because there never was one. It’s locked in a vault with Karl Rove’s indictments.
Liar Johnson lied to you. And you know it.
Carry on, you pathetic dupes.
Larry lied to us? Now what reason would he have to do that, you silly anchovy
Besides we don’t need no stinkin’ tape as we already know MEchelle just hates all us white folk or any other folk that don’t look like her, ya know what I mean?
On the other hand, the Obammunist lies to you on a daily basis. And you know it…you betcha!
Talk about pathetic
E: You are losing your sense of humor. Not good.
Not loosing. Never had. Humor is funny. I am only funny when I try to be serious with my kids. The rest of the time I am just odd.
As is the world. Are we the world? Are we the children?
I don’t know.
I do know that today is festival day in our town and we will be tasting foods and laughing out loud. Maybe today we will be the children.
We’re pathetic huh? Hehe, our guy’s not relying on voter fraud to win.
The GE isn’t a caucus. And we all saw what happened on big state primary days when Gutter Ball had outspent Hillary 5-1 and she still won by double digits.
Keep telling yourself BO will win states like PA, IN, and NC. It makes Hillary supporters like us chuckle.
Hey Camille, let’s talk about BO’s incredible ground operation in PA. Now, is this the same unparalleled ground operation that was to defeat Hillary during the PA primary? Oh wait…
Ya know …just because the guy buys time on tv doesn’t mean anyone has to watch it ….that’s the beauty of it all…just don’t watch….
also he stole this idea from Hillary…she bought time in Texas the night before the primary and it worked out great for her…for him at this point i really don’t think it’ll get him all that much…
So many innuendos so little time.
artsykr, that’s because most voters would rather have a colonoscopy than listen to Gutter Ball rant and stutter for half an hour.
lL-lynn tardface.
Eastan: Maybe we are the children we have been waiting for.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones
I saw Guyana Tragedy: The Story of Jim Jones, on TV when it came it out, everything in that show, and what I read on Wiki, mirrors what I see with barack HUSSEIN obama. I post on youtube more than here, but I visit NQ 2 or 3 times a day, I just lurk here. Just a suggestion, posting on youtube confronts the enemy, and you could possibly convert a few. We’re preaching to the quior here, so let’s engage the enemy. Get the word out, let the lemmings see what’s happening. I’m not saying move to youtube, just post there. This is a safe haven for me since TM turned communist.
I just looked at Google News and a Reuters story at the top says BO leads McCain by 4 pts. Didn’t read the story but what happened to that 11 pt lead I kept hearing the past few days?…. This race is not over.
Well, I won’t be watching that’s for sure. But I really believe McCain/Palin should do the same. Especially Palin… the reason being everyone from Tina Fey, SNL, Letterman, Leno, Entertainment Tonight, all the MSM are riding off the coattails of Gov. Palin and the public’s fascination with her. Put Palin on the tube for their own infomercial. The only way to get their message across to the most voters. Like you said, Hillary did this to great advantage. Another thing Hillary did was do campaigning door-to-door. Yes, Mac and Sarah should pound the pavement door-to-door to convince voters + it gets media coverage. Palin did it when she ran for re-election for Mayor of Wasilla. Adds a personal touch.
I agree. Use the interest in Gov. Palin.
DJ, awesome news. Thanks for posting.
4 pt Obama lead = Lots of undecideds = McCain wins.
I wouldn’t expect the ‘whitey’ tape to surface until after next week’s debate. But you can bet your bottom dollar that if that tape exists it will be seem around the world day and night immediately after the debate.
I fear that those who advocate a one-world government see this crisis as an opportunity.
Except no one is advocating a one-world government. This sounds like conspiracy stuff.
Speaking of which…if you’re ever being bothered by “9/11 Truthers,” who think 9/11 was an inside job, here are my three favorite conspiracy debunking sites. These sites will have no effect on conspiracy buffs. But they will cure a normal person in a matter of minutes:
http://www.911myths.com/
http://www.debunking911.com/
wtc7lies.googlepages.com/home
Perry, millions of intelligent people would beg to differ with your statement that 9/11 myth has been debunked
For example here is JUST ONE group:
Scholars For Truth and Justice:
http://stj911.org/
The New World Order, UFOs, and 9/11 are my favorite conspiracy theories. Each of them has a wealth of good solid facts to support them. It’s true that some unbalanced people buy into them, but then even more unbalanced people buy into conventional wisdom. If a person accepts with an open mind the possibility that each of these theories could be true, it changes one’s outlook drastically and dramatically. Although a refreshing beginning, this post only breezes over the surface of the implications of these theories.
Right now, I wish someone would put a magnifying glass to General Electric, supposedly the 6th largest corporate power in the world, owner of the propagandists NBC/MSNBC, keeper of high-tech secrets, and friend of Barack Obama the Manchurian Candidate.
You guys need to check out the Jewish Case Against Barack Obama. http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=193353
What about this should surprise us? Didn’t Michelle call this a mean country? Benjamin Franklin must be rolling over in his grave!
Brzezinski and all these other ADVISERS have been recycled one too many times!
I thought the “O” wanted to put a new face on Washington…guess he decided he might need someone to pretend to govern.
That’s above his pay grade!
I would prefer a veteran, who KNOWS what he is doing…and will tell the American people why!
i just made a trip to talk left for a look see. a trip down memory lane. it isn’t the same neighborhood. sure the same ole gang is there. but the posters who made for good debates and real energy are gone. what you have left are the bots all singing in unison together. boring! no diary gets more than 20 or so responses. whereas the 200 cut off point was almost always reached before they drank the koolaid. tchrist gets 2 or 3. that is like yelling at passersby and having them say no thanks. maybe jeralyn likes it now so she doesn’t have to do as much monitoring. beats me!
Easton,
Excellent article. Very informative. Thank you.concern about Sen Obama’s candidacy started the day Z Brzezinski-out of nowhere-endorsed Sen Obama for Pres during the Dem primary.
I asked myself- ZB is a heavy duty player in int’l affairs so on what basis is he endorsing Sen Obama-who has absolutely no career experience (I dont mean titles- I mean career experience) in Int’l affairs? This honestly didnt make sense-especially in light of the fact that I studied my history and I remember what ZB’s reign was like when he was with Carter. Outside of the US many people want to capture Brzezinski (and Kissinger for that matter too) and try them as war criminals.
Hundreds of thousands of innocent people located on several continents have died because of the policies of these two men.
This one fact alone caused me to go ‘independent’ and start my own research on Sen Obama and…I have not looked back since.
Thank you for this article.
Easton, Here are some more links regarding Brzezinski
ZB has been accused of being 1 of the several MAJOR reasons Osama Bin Laden was able to carry out terror attack on 9/11. Read why. He helped to arm Bin Laden & provide trained soldiers for his war on the US. (Infowars see below)
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a1097chessboard#a1097chessboard
“Context of ‘October 1997: Brzezinski Highlights the Importance of Central Asia to Achieving World Domination” Cooperative Research History Commons
http://www.infowars.com/?p=370 “Meet Obama”s
Foreign Policy Brain: Zbigniew Brzezinski” By Aidan Monaghan 911 Blogger 2/20/08
I came across the infowars article quite by accident because -my apologies if I inadvertantly insult any of my fellow NQ bloggers- but I USED TO read more mainstream websites, publications etc…
(no disrespect intended for Mr. Monaghan)
One think I have learned during his election cycle is that it is VERY important for people to keep an OPEN MIND about anything and to learn to hold opposing views in their head while they continue to seek the truth.
http://www.nysun.com/article/71123
The New York Sun 2/12/08 “Obama Adviser Leads Delegation to Damascus By Eli Lake Supposidly Sen. Obama had no idea that ZB, one of his foreign advisors at the time, was making a trip to Syria several weeks ago???
Some more informative reading. These come from independent media sources.
http://www.counterpunch.org/brzezinski.html ”
Zbigniew Brzezinski: How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen” 10/08/01 In 1998 (ZB) was interviewed by the French newspaper Nouvel Observateur on the topic of Afghanistan . Here is excerpt from that interview in Counterpunch”s Investigative Journalism website
like I have previosly stated,Brzizinski and Rockeffelar are co-founders of the TRILATERIAL COMMISSION meaning North America and Europe and Japan…all the richest wanted to control world..do u think maybe the foreign nations getting involved is no coincidence???Obama is a puppet for Trilaterial like Carter was. He was a member of tri in 1973 and when he took office he brought on board 17 members from the trilaterial commission…notice Michelle obama is a member of COUNCIL OF FOREIGN relations …coincidence that Carter was also a un-known and got the media behind him thanks to the trilaterial people and backing $$$…
Egads, John Birch Society and Lyndon LaRouche kooks galore.
As a new book on the global ruling class by David Rothkopf, “Superclass: The Global Power Elite and the World They Are Making,” notes the Trilaterial Commission has long ago ceased to have any influence in those circles.
As for Zbig being one inclined to see virtues in Marxism/Communism, jeesh, he carved his reputation writing a series of books vs. Soviet totalitarianism in the 50’s and 60’s. See a book on the debates on totalitarianism by Abbot Gleason.
dear easton – VIKINGS unite, you have nothing to lose but those trawlers! Thank you. I am of Scot Irish/native american descent, my father was wounded at guadecanal and I TOTALLY understand the spirit of your great post.
Comment by lidia | 2008-10-11 11:23:20
OK, now please tell us how REAGAN did the same and MORE (after all, he had 8 years, while Carter only a year) LOL All USA politics are so durty and repugnant, be it dems or reps
Yup. All Zbig gave the Mujahedeen was a few ancient rifles circa WWII. Reagan (read the book by Steve Coll on the CIA and Osama) sent millions of $ and tons of weaponry. The Stingers we sent starting in ‘86 turned the tide. http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2001/2001-December/028084.html Covert Aid to Afghan Mujahdeen in the 80’s Pg. 146, Larry P. Goodson, “Afghanistan’s Endless War, ” Univ.
of Washington Press.
1980 $30 Million
1981 $35 M
1982 $$35-50 M
1983 $80 M
1984 $122 M
1985 $280 M
1986 $470-550M
1987 $600M
1988 $400M
1989 $400-550M
Citing NYT, Washington Post, Henry Bradsher, “Afghanistan and
the Soviet Union, Duke Univ. Press, 1985.
Soviet and Chinese Aid…
Besides being one of the first regimes to recognize Pinochet
after 9-11-73, along with the USG giving Savimbi lotsa weaponry,
the PRC also gave arms to the anti-Soviet mujahadeen in the 80’s
through the ISI pipeline.
>From Larry P. Goodson, “Afghanistan’s Endless War, ” Univ. of
Washington Press, pg. 99. “The Soviet Union supplied $36-$48
billion (yes B!) to the communist Kabul regime from 1978 to the
early 90’s. Over the course of the war, the United States, Saudi
Arabia and China supplied $6-12 billion to the mujahdeen…”
Pg. 142, Goodson again. “The Soviets took natural gas from
the Shiberghan fields (for example 2.4 Billion cubic feet in
1986, 50% of Afghanistan’s total export value) and supplied essential
commodities (including wheat)along with arms, machinery and transportation
equipment.” The gas was “sold” at BELOW market rates to the fSU.
Pg. 57, Goodson. “In the early spring of 1979 war came to the
cities of Afghanistan. In mid-March there was a general uprising
in Herat. More than a hundred Soviets were hunted down in savage
violence that killed 3-5 thousand. Revolts and uprisings in other
major cities followed. In April Afghan Army units mutineed in
Jalalabad, killing their Soviet advisors and refusing to fight
the resistance. Many of these soldiers joined the mujahdeen…
(Afghan Army strength from late ‘78 to early ‘79 declined from
80K to 30K.)
In April (1979) Afghan government forces with Soviet advisors
massacred 1,170 men and boys of Kerala village in Kunar, near
the Pakistan border.”
Michael Pugliese
The problem is not ZB and his ilk. the problem is that we, as a people, refuse to use critical thinking when making crucial decisions. Novo Ordus Seclorum is not new, it is the highfalutin goal of the intelligentsia of the 18th century Enlightenment.
The problem with this guy is that he is in charge of MSNBC with his daughter at the wheel. MSNBC was a decent network until his daughter started working there. She has brainwashed everybody, including her co-host Joe Sarbourgh (spelling). I have lost respect for this man.
Please see this video (and save it) before YouTube censors it. It pulls together all the pieces to show why Obama is not constitutionally qualified to be president.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs
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are you the type of person who eats a bit and often?
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8 am breakfast
3pm lunch
9pm a snack.