Comments on: Going To The Chapel, And We’re Gonna Get Married http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/ Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:18:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Hillary or Bust http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-903712 Hillary or Bust Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:01:42 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-903712 This is precisely my point. What a tangled nightmare we have made marriage. People should legally be treated as individuals. Marriage should only be about committing to spend a lifetime with the one you love and nothing more. Joint taxes and benefits should be kept out of it. Health insurance benefits would not be an issue if we fixed healthcare and should not be a reason for people wanting to marry. (I had friends get married just for health insurance!) Children should be taken care of by parents and guardians...but you don't need to be married by the government to be recognized as a parent. This is precisely my point. What a tangled nightmare we have made marriage. People should legally be treated as individuals. Marriage should only be about committing to spend a lifetime with the one you love and nothing more. Joint taxes and benefits should be kept out of it. Health insurance benefits would not be an issue if we fixed healthcare and should not be a reason for people wanting to marry. (I had friends get married just for health insurance!)

Children should be taken care of by parents and guardians…but you don’t need to be married by the government to be recognized as a parent.

]]> By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-903151 Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:14:50 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-903151 Congratulations on your engagement! I hope, and pray, that you and your partner are able to have your wedding sooner rather than later! All the bet to you both! Congratulations on your engagement! I hope, and pray, that you and your partner are able to have your wedding sooner rather than later! All the bet to you both!

]]> By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-903125 Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:02:33 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-903125 WOW, Medusa, that is heartening. Thank you for that! Abt DADT, McCain and Obama's positions are very similar (now - Obama backtracked - big surprise - a month or so ago). Obama has taken a much more passive position now. Typical. WOW, Medusa, that is heartening. Thank you for that!

Abt DADT, McCain and Obama’s positions are very similar (now - Obama backtracked - big surprise - a month or so ago). Obama has taken a much more passive position now. Typical.

]]> By: PUMAinNY http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-903053 PUMAinNY Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:36:34 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-903053 RRRA, you nailed it. My partner and I have been engayged for the last two years, anxiously awaiting for broader legalization of gay marriage before we did the deed. We are in a loving, committed relationship, and plan to have children -- in essence, we want what our friends, siblings and parents have. My parents were a great role model -- happily married for 38 years, in sickness and in health, for richer for poorer. Why wouldn't I, as a gay person, want that as well? It's what I already have, except I don't have the same legal protections my parents did when my father got sick and died, my children won't have the same legal protections as my siblings and I did as the children of a legally married couple. Thank you Connecticut, thank you Massachusetts, thank you California, and thank you Governor Paterson of my state of NY who has directed that NY recognize out of state gay marriages. Someday maybe my children won't know a world where their parents marriage isn't seen as a political or ideological wedge, but is just a boring, mundane marriage like any other. RRRA, you nailed it. My partner and I have been engayged for the last two years, anxiously awaiting for broader legalization of gay marriage before we did the deed. We are in a loving, committed relationship, and plan to have children — in essence, we want what our friends, siblings and parents have. My parents were a great role model — happily married for 38 years, in sickness and in health, for richer for poorer. Why wouldn’t I, as a gay person, want that as well? It’s what I already have, except I don’t have the same legal protections my parents did when my father got sick and died, my children won’t have the same legal protections as my siblings and I did as the children of a legally married couple. Thank you Connecticut, thank you Massachusetts, thank you California, and thank you Governor Paterson of my state of NY who has directed that NY recognize out of state gay marriages. Someday maybe my children won’t know a world where their parents marriage isn’t seen as a political or ideological wedge, but is just a boring, mundane marriage like any other.

]]> By: hootnannie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-902926 hootnannie Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:04:49 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-902926 I don't agree with the concept of same-sex marriage, though I agree with Hillary or Bust that marriage should be a wholly religious institution. Courts overturning same-sex marriage laws leads to states passing amendments against it, and when these elections are held, cultural conservatives come out and elect people like W while they're at it. This year, of course, such a ballot issue may help McCain win CA. Left-wing cultural agendas are one of the biggest mobilizing tools that the GOP has, and the more states pass "gay-marriage laws", the more good Dems like Hillary will suffer. I don’t agree with the concept of same-sex marriage, though I agree with Hillary or Bust that marriage should be a wholly religious institution. Courts overturning same-sex marriage laws leads to states passing amendments against it, and when these elections are held, cultural conservatives come out and elect people like W while they’re at it. This year, of course, such a ballot issue may help McCain win CA. Left-wing cultural agendas are one of the biggest mobilizing tools that the GOP has, and the more states pass “gay-marriage laws”, the more good Dems like Hillary will suffer.

]]> By: Kal http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-902702 Kal Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:07:07 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-902702 Great. Now they'll be looking for handouts too. Great. Now they’ll be looking for handouts too.

]]> By: Kal http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-902690 Kal Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:03:51 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-902690 Don't you know, denial of political and civil equality + the equal right to be involuntarily drafted and forced to endure constant harassment and worse in the military = 'equality with a vengeance!' This lets all us sweeties know that if we are really going to cut up about BO's misogyny, he is going to make sure we get equal treatment, starting with the worst first. I can hear it now: 'If you want the privilege of full equality, you must take up all the responsibilities that entails, no matter how burdensome.' Etc, yetch. In other words, a typical male leftie. Don’t you know, denial of political and civil equality + the equal right to be involuntarily drafted and forced to endure constant harassment and worse in the military = ‘equality with a vengeance!’

This lets all us sweeties know that if we are really going to cut up about BO’s misogyny, he is going to make sure we get equal treatment, starting with the worst first. I can hear it now: ‘If you want the privilege of full equality, you must take up all the responsibilities that entails, no matter how burdensome.’ Etc, yetch. In other words, a typical male leftie.

]]> By: DancingOpossum http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-902684 DancingOpossum Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:02:43 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-902684 This is wonderful news, RRRA. I have nothing to add or expound upon, just--wonderful. This is wonderful news, RRRA. I have nothing to add or expound upon, just–wonderful.

]]> By: Bob White http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-902144 Bob White Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:49:53 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-902144 There's an amendment on the ballot in FL this year that not only attempts to define marriage as between a man and a woman, but also seems to nullify civil unions. <blockquote>This amendment protects marriage as the legal union of only one man and one woman as husband and wife and provides that no other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized. </blockquote> I very much dislike having the courts overrule popular laws. I am sympathetic to both sides in the debate. But this amendment is beyond the pale. It seems rooted in anti-gay bigotry. It needs 60% in favor to pass. It won't get my vote. There’s an amendment on the ballot in FL this year that not only attempts to define marriage as between a man and a woman, but also seems to nullify civil unions.

This amendment protects marriage as the legal union of only one man and one woman as husband and wife and provides that no other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized.

I very much dislike having the courts overrule popular laws. I am sympathetic to both sides in the debate. But this amendment is beyond the pale. It seems rooted in anti-gay bigotry. It needs 60% in favor to pass. It won’t get my vote.

]]> By: JozefAL http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901934 JozefAL Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:25:07 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901934 During the primary? What do you think was behind Barry's little "gospel tour" last year with "ex-gay" Donnie McClurkin? Barry claimed to have selected McClurkin SOLELY for McClurkin's "popularity" with AA Evangelicals but didn't think to check out what McClurkin's ministry was about before offering the invite. Hell, Barry even had the audacity to defend their social conservative views* as proof of how he would listen to people of all political views and criticized gay rights groups who didn't (or couldn't) understand what he was doing. *Amazingly, while many people are willing to condemn or criticize pro-choice advocates or LGBT community for failing to unconditionally supporting THE ONE because the GOP is "so bad" on abortion and gay rights, it's been surprisingly weird that there's been no similar attitude at the way that African-American ministers are willing to "hold their noses" and vote for Obama despite his (supposed) "liberal" views on things like abortion and gay rights. Apparently, his being "black" is more important than his alleged liberal social agenda. (Why a white voter who would dare offer support for a white candidate who otherwise stands against everything the voter supports must be a racist. A black voter who supports a black candidate who opposes everything the voter endorses, however, is not? Give this gay white man the REAL African-American candidate, Cynthia McKinney. She may be a nutjob but if you know her name and reputation, you know EXACTLY where she stands. ALWAYS.) During the primary? What do you think was behind Barry’s little “gospel tour” last year with “ex-gay” Donnie McClurkin? Barry claimed to have selected McClurkin SOLELY for McClurkin’s “popularity” with AA Evangelicals but didn’t think to check out what McClurkin’s ministry was about before offering the invite. Hell, Barry even had the audacity to defend their social conservative views* as proof of how he would listen to people of all political views and criticized gay rights groups who didn’t (or couldn’t) understand what he was doing.

*Amazingly, while many people are willing to condemn or criticize pro-choice advocates or LGBT community for failing to unconditionally supporting THE ONE because the GOP is “so bad” on abortion and gay rights, it’s been surprisingly weird that there’s been no similar attitude at the way that African-American ministers are willing to “hold their noses” and vote for Obama despite his (supposed) “liberal” views on things like abortion and gay rights. Apparently, his being “black” is more important than his alleged liberal social agenda. (Why a white voter who would dare offer support for a white candidate who otherwise stands against everything the voter supports must be a racist. A black voter who supports a black candidate who opposes everything the voter endorses, however, is not? Give this gay white man the REAL African-American candidate, Cynthia McKinney. She may be a nutjob but if you know her name and reputation, you know EXACTLY where she stands. ALWAYS.)

]]> By: JozefAL http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901857 JozefAL Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:05:15 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901857 That's all fine and dandy and everything, but the Constitution GUARANTEES that what is LEGAL in one state is binding on all. Do YOU want to be required to get a new driver's license just to visit another state? Under this "state's right" protectionism that permeates the anti-same-sex marriage ideology, that's exactly what would be required. I can't imagine how any hetero couple would feel knowing that, if the couple had to relocate to another state (say, for instance, that one spouse gets a better-paying job or spouse's employer transer him/her), the couple learns they are not considered legally married in that state because they didn't have a state-approved marriage license. Hetero American couples can get married while vacationing in Vegas or Atlantic City or Cozumel or a Caribbean cruise, and that marriage is treated as COMPLETELY legal no matter where the couple calls home whether it be Massachusetts, California, Connecticut or Alabama--the last of which is the only one explicitly barring same-sex marriage, or even the semblance of marriage. But, a same-sex couple who've built a life in Alabama can't get married in Massachusetts (Romney saw to that) or California (even though there doesn't seem to be any residency requirement) and have it recognized by the State of Alabama OR the US government. NO person (hetero or homo) should be forced to move to another state or country simply to enjoy sharing a life with the person he or she happens to fall in love with. The Loving decision declared that marriage is a civil right, and more than a few Democratic politicians and would-be kingmakers (I'm looking at you, Brazile nut, though not directly--like the Medusa of mythology, looking directly at Brazile can be hazardous to one's health) need to remember that. If they're unwilling to do so, they're no better than the extreme-right anti-gay religious nuts who've co-opted the Republican Party. That’s all fine and dandy and everything, but the Constitution GUARANTEES that what is LEGAL in one state is binding on all.
Do YOU want to be required to get a new driver’s license just to visit another state? Under this “state’s right” protectionism that permeates the anti-same-sex marriage ideology, that’s exactly what would be required. I can’t imagine how any hetero couple would feel knowing that, if the couple had to relocate to another state (say, for instance, that one spouse gets a better-paying job or spouse’s employer transer him/her), the couple learns they are not considered legally married in that state because they didn’t have a state-approved marriage license. Hetero American couples can get married while vacationing in Vegas or Atlantic City or Cozumel or a Caribbean cruise, and that marriage is treated as COMPLETELY legal no matter where the couple calls home whether it be Massachusetts, California, Connecticut or Alabama–the last of which is the only one explicitly barring same-sex marriage, or even the semblance of marriage. But, a same-sex couple who’ve built a life in Alabama can’t get married in Massachusetts (Romney saw to that) or California (even though there doesn’t seem to be any residency requirement) and have it recognized by the State of Alabama OR the US government. NO person (hetero or homo) should be forced to move to another state or country simply to enjoy sharing a life with the person he or she happens to fall in love with.
The Loving decision declared that marriage is a civil right, and more than a few Democratic politicians and would-be kingmakers (I’m looking at you, Brazile nut, though not directly–like the Medusa of mythology, looking directly at Brazile can be hazardous to one’s health) need to remember that. If they’re unwilling to do so, they’re no better than the extreme-right anti-gay religious nuts who’ve co-opted the Republican Party.

]]> By: pbsc http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901676 pbsc Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:17:51 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901676 I live in SC and you would not believe the homophobia exhibited by some of Obama's pastor-supporters in this state! During the primary here, I saw BHO take advantage of their endorsements without ever condemning them for it. And these were well known homophobes. It's rampant here among the black churches and their pastors. I live in SC and you would not believe the homophobia exhibited by some of Obama’s pastor-supporters in this state! During the primary here, I saw BHO take advantage of their endorsements without ever condemning them for it. And these were well known homophobes. It’s rampant here among the black churches and their pastors.

]]> By: athy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901631 athy Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:56:57 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901631 RRRAmy, well researched article and wonderful video. Thank you. I support Gay marriage. I have no conflicts with my religious teachings because the issue of gay/lesbian relationships is NOT up for discussion in my faith. It's a private matter between man (Or woman) and God. However I can understand the anguish felt by those who do not or can not support gay marriage because of their religious teachings. I can't judge so I won't. We have so many different beautiful religions out there and so many good people that practice their religions. To force these people to go against their religious beliefs is not right. In my opinion, any union that adds more love in this world is a good one. No one should ever be forced to be treated like a second class citizen because of their race, sexual orientation, or sex. I have several friends in gay relationships who can 'survive' with a 'civil union status' however they agree that their lives would be so much richer with an official 'married' status.It would denote an OFFICIAL,cultural, legal acceptance of the right for gays and lesbians to marry-versus just viewing it as a constitutional right only. Donna Brazile showed how myopic she is by not regarding Gay and lesbian rights as a civil right. There are many people who strongly support -on a constitutional basis- the right for civil ceremonies between gay people however strongly reject viewing the union as 'marriage' that has been performed by religious clergy because of their religious teachings. Let each state decide for itself (as McCain/Palin agree) and people can choose which state they will live in based upon their religious/cultural beliefs and how these beliefs mesh with gay marriage. If they feel strongly about it either way, they can relocate. We are a Democratic Republic after all. RRRAmy,
well researched article and wonderful video.
Thank you.

I support Gay marriage.

I have no conflicts with my religious teachings
because the issue of gay/lesbian relationships is NOT up for discussion in my faith. It’s a private matter between man (Or woman) and God.

However I can understand the anguish felt by those who do not or can not support gay marriage because of their religious teachings.

I can’t judge so I won’t.

We have so many different beautiful religions out there and so many good people that practice their religions.

To force these people to go against their religious beliefs is not right.

In my opinion, any union that adds more love in this world is a good one. No one should ever be forced
to be treated like a second class citizen because of their race, sexual orientation, or sex.

I have several friends in gay relationships who can ’survive’ with a ‘civil union status’ however they agree that their lives would be so much richer with an official ‘married’ status.It would denote an OFFICIAL,cultural, legal acceptance of the right for gays and lesbians to marry-versus just viewing it as a constitutional right only.

Donna Brazile showed how myopic she is by not regarding Gay and lesbian rights as a civil right.

There are many people who strongly support -on a constitutional basis- the right for civil ceremonies between gay people however strongly reject viewing the union as ‘marriage’ that has been performed by religious clergy because of their religious teachings.

Let each state decide for itself (as McCain/Palin agree) and people can choose which state they will live in based upon their religious/cultural beliefs and how these beliefs mesh with gay marriage. If they feel strongly about it either way, they can relocate.

We are a Democratic Republic after all.

]]> By: noepiphany http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901620 noepiphany Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:51:53 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901620 OT but a response to Angel: angel posted on the previous thread re jerome corsi not being on hannity's show as advertised: "I’m listening to the audio file of the phone interview Corsi did tonight on the MommaE show. ..... He (Corsi) just mentioned that he was supposed to be on Fox with Hannity & Colmes tonight but they cancelled it, then explained the news cycles are really short. I’m SO surprised that Hannity let this go." in this bizarro election campaign, keep in mind that joseph farah of WND is totally in the tank for BO. the very latest re Corsi on WND is the 22nd article on their homepage. give me a break. everyone has been waiting for Corsi's report from Kenya, and that is the best WND can do!!!!! earlier WND were the ones claiming Corsi was very ill and couldn't do interviews, but a poster on another blog mentioned that MommaE was going to have him on, which is what happened. always remember, Murdoch has said BO will win in a landslide. it looks like he's turned hannity, just as he turned o'reilly. no wonder the corpmedia is losing readers/listeners/viewers....and money. CBS4: Newspapers Facing Historic Debt Burden www.cbs46.com/money/17701634/detail.html?rss=lnta&psp=news if the link doesn't work, add http:// to the front of the above url. hope NQ will get to the bottom of the Hannity/Corsi thing tomorrow. OT but a response to Angel:

angel posted on the previous thread re jerome corsi not being on hannity’s show as advertised:

“I’m listening to the audio file of the phone interview Corsi did tonight on the MommaE show. …..
He (Corsi) just mentioned that he was supposed to be on Fox with Hannity & Colmes tonight but they cancelled it, then explained the news cycles are really short. I’m SO surprised that Hannity let this go.”

in this bizarro election campaign, keep in mind that joseph farah of WND is totally in the tank for BO. the very latest re Corsi on WND is the 22nd article on their homepage. give me a break. everyone has been waiting for Corsi’s report from Kenya, and that is the best WND can do!!!!! earlier WND were the ones claiming Corsi was very ill and couldn’t do interviews, but a poster on another blog mentioned that MommaE was going to have him on, which is what happened.

always remember, Murdoch has said BO will win in a landslide. it looks like he’s turned hannity, just as he turned o’reilly. no wonder the corpmedia is losing readers/listeners/viewers….and money.

CBS4: Newspapers Facing Historic Debt Burden
http://www.cbs46.com/money/17701634/detail.html?rss=lnta&psp=news

if the link doesn’t work, add http:// to the front of the above url.

hope NQ will get to the bottom of the Hannity/Corsi thing tomorrow.

]]> By: PhxNickD http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901618 PhxNickD Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:51:06 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901618 You know if the courts want marriage to be between one man and one women then that is exactly what it should be. One man and one women, that's it, forever and adultry becomes illegal as it would be against the state's constitution. You know if the courts want marriage to be between one man and one women then that is exactly what it should be. One man and one women, that’s it, forever and adultry becomes illegal as it would be against the state’s constitution.

]]> By: athena http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901616 athena Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:50:12 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901616 Hmmm. Wonder why Hannity canceled? I watched tonight hoping to see him. Hmmm. Wonder why Hannity canceled? I watched tonight hoping to see him.

]]> By: PhxNickD http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901592 PhxNickD Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:45:30 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901592 Yes but McCain has always said it was a state issue, Obama used to support gay marriage and then threw it under the bus. (When google opened the archives one of the first things I saw about Obama was he supported gay marriage in the early 90's. Yep, a true supporter of the community.) Yes but McCain has always said it was a state issue, Obama used to support gay marriage and then threw it under the bus.

(When google opened the archives one of the first things I saw about Obama was he supported gay marriage in the early 90’s. Yep, a true supporter of the community.)

]]> By: AnninCA http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901562 AnninCA Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:37:52 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901562 Oh.......you so nailed it. Thanks. I think cultural stuff or personal lifestyle stuff just sort of shifts and changes, regardless of politics or law. You're so right. It really is about collecting garbage. Oh…….you so nailed it. Thanks.

I think cultural stuff or personal lifestyle stuff just sort of shifts and changes, regardless of politics or law.

You’re so right. It really is about collecting garbage.

]]> By: AnninCA http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901556 AnninCA Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:36:02 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901556 I have a good friend who went for the legal partnership deal. They are protected now. And engaged. *haha They'll be engaged forever. They are happy as clams. She's got her diamond. Don't know why, but that stuff is way important to women. They live together. They so enjoyed the courtship phase that they just never got past it. :) I have a good friend who went for the legal partnership deal. They are protected now. And engaged. *haha

They’ll be engaged forever. They are happy as clams. She’s got her diamond. Don’t know why, but that stuff is way important to women. They live together.

They so enjoyed the courtship phase that they just never got past it. :)

]]> By: Eastan McNeal http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901546 Eastan McNeal Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:32:50 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/13/going-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/#comment-901546 I agree. Your marriage has not bearing on me. Collective governing has more to to with fines, fees and taxes used to share burdens of water, sewer and police. This business of social intervention makes very little sense to me or any other student of Western Philosophy. I agree.

Your marriage has not bearing on me.

Collective governing has more to to with fines, fees and taxes used to share burdens of water, sewer and police.

This business of social intervention makes very little sense to me or any other student of Western Philosophy.

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