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Ipso facto, The Deep Connections between Barack Obama, Michelle Obama and Unrepentant Terrorist Bill Ayers Are Established

SusanUnPC’s Note: It is critical to read below the fold, where you will see these three paragraphs:

[Bill] Ayers will be joined by Illinois State Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the University of Chicago Law School, who is working to block proposed legislation that would throw more juvenile offenders into the adult system; Randolph Stone, Director of the Mandel Legal Aid Clinic at the University of Chicago; Alex Correa, a reformed juvenile offender who spent 7 years in Cook County Temporary Detention Center; Frank Tobin, a former priest and teacher in the Detention Center who helped Correa; and Willy Baldwin, who grew up in public housing and is currently a teacher in the Detention Center. [...]

At the end of this SAME PRESS RELEASE are these two paragraphs that put Bill Ayers in the same program, the same views on criminal justice, and the same physical location as Michelle Obama — as well as Barack Obama:

Michelle Obama, Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University of Chicago Community Service Center, hopes bringing issues like this to campus will open a dialogue between members of the University community and the broader community.

“We know that issues like juvenile justice impact each of us who live in the city of Chicago. This panel gives community members and students a chance to hear about the juvenile justice system not only on a theoretical level, but from the people who have experienced it.”

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November 4, 1997, The University of Chicago, Chicago, Illinois

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Here is the text of the University of Chicago press release dated November 4, 1997:

Should a child ever be called a “super predator?”

A panel at the University of Chicago debates the merits of the juvenile justice system

Children who kill are called “super predators,” “people with no conscience,” “feral pre-social beings”–and “adults.”

William Ayers, author of A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court(Beacon Press, 1997), says “We should call a child a child. A 13-year-old who picks up a gun isn’t suddenly an adult. We have to ask other questions: How did he get the gun? Where did it come from?”

Ayers, who spent a year observing the Cook County Temporary Juvenile Detention Center in Chicago, is one of four panelists who will speak on juvenile justice at 6 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 20, in the C-Shop of the Reynolds Club, 5706 S. University Ave.

The panel, which marks the 100th anniversary of the juvenile justice system in the United States, is part of the Community Service Center’s monthly discussion series on issues affecting the city of Chicago.

The event is free and open to the public.

Ayers will be joined by Illinois State Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the University of Chicago Law School, who is working to block proposed legislation that would throw more juvenile offenders into the adult system; Randolph Stone, Director of the Mandel Legal Aid Clinic at the University of Chicago; Alex Correa, a reformed juvenile offender who spent 7 years in Cook County Temporary Detention Center; Frank Tobin, a former priest and teacher in the Detention Center who helped Correa; and Willy Baldwin, who grew up in public housing and is currently a teacher in the Detention Center.

The juvenile justice system was founded by Chicago reformer Jane Addams, who advocated the establishment of a separate court system for children which would act like a “kind and just parent” for children in crisis.

One hundred years later, the system is “overcrowded, under-funded, over-centralized and racist,” Ayers said.

Michelle Obama, Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University of Chicago Community Service Center, hopes bringing issues like this to campus will open a dialogue between members of the University community and the broader community.

“We know that issues like juvenile justice impact each of us who live in the city of Chicago. This panel gives community members and students a chance to hear about the juvenile justice system not only on a theoretical level, but from the people who have experienced it.”

FACT CHECK

Obama claim:

STEPHANOPOLOUS: Can you explain that relationship [with William Ayers] for the voters and explain to Democrats why it won’t be a problem?

OBAMA: George, but this is an example of what I’m talking about. This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn’t make much sense, George.

The fact is that I’m also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who, during his campaign, once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions.

Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn’s statements? Because I certainly don’t agree with those, either.

So this kind of game in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, that somehow their ideas could be attributed to me, I think the American people are smarter than that. They’re not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn’t.

Facts:

  • Michelle Obama scheduled a round table with Barack Obama and Bill Ayers at The University of Chicago in 1997
  • The round table and the press release connect Barack Obama, Michelle Obama and Bill Ayers
  • Barack Obama, Michelle Obama and Bill Ayers exchanged ideas before, after and during the round table Michelle Obama organized
  • Barack Obama and Bill Ayers collaborated during this conference, and their exchange of ideas informed Obama’s opposition to the Juvenile Justice Reform Act in the Illinois General Assembly in 1997
  • This exchange of ideas reveals that Ayers’s governing philosophy is reflective of Obama’s views; indeed, Ayers’s philosophy shaped and determined Obama’s views
  • Obama’s relationship to Ayers is anything but flimsy
  • Obama lied during the Philadelphia debate
  • One of Obama’s present votes in 1999 in the Illinois state Senate on juvenile justice legislation is also a result of his 1997 collaboration and collusion with Bill Ayers
  • Obama’s legislative activity in Illinois can be tied to his intellectual relationship with terrorist Bill Ayers

How does the Obama campaign account for this official University of Chicago press release? And does Michelle Obama also share Bill Ayers’s ideas? It appears she does.

Michelle and Barack Obama have deep and controversial ties to Bill Ayers the Weather Underground terrorist and bomber.

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Comment by Bingo | 2008-10-14 08:32:16

THis is PRICELESS. Howard Sterns talks to Obama supporters, but infuses McCain’s policies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU

Comment by larryfan | 2008-10-14 09:13:08

Ayers believes all prisoner in the U.S. should be RELEASED…..

I am sure some of this has rubbed on to the obamas…….

so, an obama Presidency will be so LAXED on CRIMES, imagine the judges he’ll pick, imagine the advisers he’ll continue to support…..

this explains all his relationships to wright, pfleger and farrakhan …( don’t forget his personal relationship with Frank Marshall Davis, pedophie and communist)

and isn’t it funny how obama doesn’t have any personal friends?….no one spoke on his behalf at the convention that knew him in his personal life, other than michelle……

no friends, no past writings,(other than the books he claimed he wrote, I seriously believe there is a well paid obama ghost writer out there)

obama is a liar, a cheater, a scrumbag….. and he is the most racists of all…race baiting McCain and his campaign……we must vote against him

Comment by lark | 2008-10-14 09:32:37

Ayers believes all prisoner in the U.S. should be RELEASED…..

Alert.

That can be done once we are done with today’s hearing in the Senate where we will be hearing how to organize and legitimize pilferage. Simply do with prisoners what will be done with the Derivatives marketeers.

Lets have Ayers design a Clearing House for Criminals and Wrong Behavior. There criminals can swap weapons and submit their plans for their next heist or murder spree and other criminals and investors can be on their chances for success and the size of loot or the kill.

The good thing is that the criminal market can move freely and efficiently and be transparent to all those, like the MSM who have a stakeholder interest in seeing it grow.

How many of you approve? Signify by saying I.

 

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-10-14 09:47:39

Of COURSE he believe that. He can use them to lob the future bombs.

 
 

Comment by mary | 2008-10-14 15:01:42

Seriously???? I am a really friendly person and I talk and exchange ideals with lots of people. That doesn’t mean that I always agree with them. My grandfather was born at the turn of the century and raised to me read 4 news source from different extremes in hopes to find the truth.
Are country is fundamentally about people with different ideologies living together in relative peace. Your comment seems so black and white as if someone holds one extreme ideal that nothing they think could be valid.
I want president who listens ,weighs all the options, and is flexible enough to come to the right decision no matter who has the answer. We cannot afford to base our votes on philosophy when the challenges before us need real answers not rhetoric. So who cares who the guy had coffee with.

Comment by socalannie | 2008-10-14 16:30:20

Your comment seems so black and white as if someone holds one extreme ideal that nothing they think could be valid.

Your own comment is absurd, but typical of the obot obtuseness we see around here.

Bill Ayers is a terrorist. He planted bombs. He admits it & is proud of it, and said that he wished he “had done more”. His bombs caused deaths and injuries (one man paralyzed for life). No, I do not think that anything that comes from this sick bastards mind is worth hearing. I would never let him have anything to do with educating my child. I would never speak to him, shake his hand, work with him on any project, or show any interest in his opinions.

It is truly a shame, and a black mark on our judicial system, that this disgusting person & his equally horrible wife have not spent the last 40 years in a federal penitentiary.

Comment by suzanne | 2008-10-15 00:10:21

and Bill Ayers is now a respected educator in Chicago, someone who teaches at a major university, advises the mayor as well as many other leading educators – even educators i other countries. he is NOT a black mark on any present day measure. he did wrong and has come out okay, even his chief prosecutor said that….he is proud that he redeemed himself with his life actions.
give it up – not working anymore, it never did.

 
 

Comment by Chiten | 2008-10-14 20:42:15

Mary,
I CARE who the guy had coffee with, especially when he did it on a regular basis for many years while being mentored by the other coffee drinker.
If that is the kind of President you want, then you certainly do not want obama.
He did more than have coffee with the man. They were close friends, they shared IDEAS and IDEALS, they discussed many topics, obama learned FROM him, he was obama’s mentor, obama is not flexible at all, nor does he have the best interest of the country as a priority. I do not believe he has the ability to make decisions that would be best for our country, nor would he want to if he did. We DO need real answers, not rhetoric, obama is capable of rhetoric and only rhetoric when it comes to the good of the country because he wishes to CHANGE, HOPES to change, the country to one that we would not recognize as the United States of America at any point in it’s history. He HOPES to CHANGE the US to something that is totally opposite what our founding fathers intended and what we, as Americans intend, want and need.
If you are interested in living in a society where freedom of speech does not exist, where dissent is met with stiff penalties, where the government is more communistic than democratic, then obama is your man. However, most Americans don’t want this, if you still do, there are options out there for you. You could try Cuba, China, Iran, North Korea or any number of nations that share the same IDEALS that obama does.
(please note the difference in “Ideas” and “Ideals” as well as “our” and “are”. Just a personal pet-peeve)

Comment by suzanne | 2008-10-15 00:12:00

You are a big idiot – could you gain a little more knowledge of this world instead of ranting with your hatred?? you don’t know what you are talking about.

 
 
 
 

Comment by larryfan | 2008-10-14 09:13:31

Ayers believes all prisoner in the U.S. should be RELEASED…..

I am sure some of this has rubbed on to the obamas…….

so, an obama Presidency will be so LAXED on CRIMES, imagine the judges he’ll pick, imagine the advisers he’ll continue to support…..

this explains all his relationships to wright, pfleger and farrakhan …( don’t forget his personal relationship with Frank Marshall Davis, pedophie and communist)

and isn’t it funny how obama doesn’t have any personal friends?….no one spoke on his behalf at the convention that knew him in his personal life, other than michelle……

no friends, no past writings,(other than the books he claimed he wrote, I seriously believe there is a well paid obama ghost writer out there)

obama is a liar, a cheater, a scumbag….. and he is the most racists of all…race baiting McCain and his campaign……we must vote against him

 

Comment by tillthen | 2008-10-14 09:35:11

…and look at the bright side. Its the first time the Obama voters have givern Palin a fair shake. Yesiree, she, as Obama’s VP, is OK with them, yup.

 

Comment by William Jennings | 2008-10-14 09:45:00

If the Michelle tapes that talk about ‘Whitey’ really exist, they’d better come out sooner than later. Personally, I don’t think they exist but, if they do, waiting much longer will allow Obama to blow it off!

Comment by timepassages | 2008-10-14 10:27:20

 
 
 

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-10-14 08:35:01

Great post, McCain is going to give a presser on ACORN this morning.

I haven’t read it yet but Stanley Kurtz was on Fox this morning and they were connecting the dots with Ayers, Wright etc.. and said he has a piece up at NRO today.

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-10-14 08:42:08

Wright 101by Stanley Kurtz

This is the piece I mentioned above.

Comment by lark | 2008-10-14 10:18:46

This is what I say that the piece from Howard Stern showing the ignorance of those voters towards Obama’s own policies, etc. reflect us also. We are so ignorant of so many other things.

Here the reality of the connection between Obama, Ayers and Wright are made clear. I didn’t know that until today.

 

Comment by vbonnaire | 2008-10-14 13:02:36

Hi Larry et al –
The Wright 101 makes more sense now — in light of the youtube “child army” video.
Months ago I dropped off this link, because I had no idea –

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE1D61E3AF933A15754C0A964958260

the site I got that from http://www.raceandhistory.com appears to have taken it down.

Has there been a movement we don’t know about?
Both the O’s seem to be Black Nationalists given their early mentors Malcolm X and Stokely Carmichael — the Ayer’s worldview as well is to destroy white patriarchy — ironic — since he is one — perhaps AMERICA ought to question further?

Like big media? I remember starting to research after seeing Wright because I couldn’t understand that level of hate. Is this only in Chicago?
For us it has been a Martin Luther King world –
I don’t trust O. Too many hidden details — it seems like we have a CIA who can check? Geez.

After the last eight years? This is insane to contemplate…

 
 
 

Comment by Rob in Chicago | 2008-10-14 08:35:34

While I might agree about the caution needed when dealing with a “13 year old who picks up a gun”, what about an 18 year old who picks up a bomb and attacks his country ?

Comment by MEchelle Hates America! | 2008-10-14 09:04:13

Oblowme wouldn’t have lied if he didn’t have something to hide.

Do you feel the need to lie about your friends?

Guess what?

You aren’t Presidential material!!!

Comment by Kyle | 2008-10-14 09:57:19

He didn’t lie.

“He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.”

&

“somehow reflects on me and my values doesn’t make much sense, George.”

&

“regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, that somehow their ideas could be attributed to me, I think the American people are smarter than that. They’re not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn’t.”

None of those are lies. Obama and Ayers do NOT share ideas ON A REGULAR BASIS , and Ayer’s radical ideals had nothing to do with Obama. You can’t compare Ayer’s bombings, with a board trying to help children with mental issues. They are completely separate.

Obama had no control over whether Ayer’s shared this individual ideal , and this individual ideal in no way represents Ayer’s other ideals.

To call this a deep connection is ludicrous. you people are looking for anything you can to make you feel better about your xenophobic freak-out.

Comment by Kyle | 2008-10-14 09:59:08

and Obama’s right

“the American people are smarter than that. They’re not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn’t”

at least half right.

Comment by Truthteller | 2008-10-14 10:01:27

It seems to me Obama and Ayers share many views. And it also seems to me that he lied multiple times during the Philadelphia debate.

 

Comment by Buzz Latte | 2008-10-14 11:37:06

BWAAAHHAAAA!

The stilted nonlogic of an Obot is really too precious, isn’t it?

That moral compass of yours could use some work, Kyle.

Contrary to your asshat beliefs, America isn’t that broken and most of us aren’t xenophobic. We just believe that it should be about blending rather than take-over.

 
 

Comment by Truthteller | 2008-10-14 09:59:24

I see a low information Obamabot is having a spasm.

 

Comment by lark | 2008-10-14 10:20:42

Just because my car is parked does not mean it can not race on the highway over 90 mph.

 

Comment by MEchelle Hates America! | 2008-10-14 10:41:11

The folks who flew planes into the World Trade Towers hardly ever talked to Osama bin Laden…

Certainly not on a REGULAR basis.

It’s about a shared belief system – terrorism.

ZERO critical analysis in your OOOOOOblowme head.

Comment by JP | 2008-10-14 14:12:18

jesus christ. comparing this to bin laden. you idiots are so (a) stupid (b) desperate (c) pathetic.

Comment by Chiten | 2008-10-14 22:30:33

Actually,it’s d)more insightful than the kool-aid drinkers

 
 
 

Comment by tommyo77 | 2008-10-14 11:31:42

he worked with Ayers on education projects, to the tune of millions and millions of dollars, Ayers view of education is clearly represented in his address in front of Hugo Chavez 2 years ago. He has a hatred for american capatilism (and funds teaching people that hatred with the help of Obama), he has a hatred for “white supremacy” (and funds teaching people that hatred with the help of Obama), he is a strong advocate of revolution and chavez style socialism (and funds teaching people that philosophy with the help of Obama), I don’t know if Obama shares Ayers “bomb and burn” affinity from the ’60’s but unless he is a complete idiot he shares his views mentioned above because he allocated millions of dollars to support the education of those views.
How is this hard for you people to understand!

 

Comment by larryfan | 2008-10-14 13:07:34

and the 200,000.00 that obama sent to rev wright via the woods fund–owned by ayers is all nada…….ok….keep on dreaming and

keep on trucking obamabutt

the money that obama loves so much is going to smother his campaign……dirty money always does.

 

Comment by Chiten | 2008-10-14 20:58:08

Kyle,
He indeed lied. His relationship with Ayers is much deeper. His political career was began in Ayers’ living room. Ayers has been his political mentor along with Rezko and others. He is VERY close to Ayers and does share not only the same ideas, but the same philosophy and desires. If obama had been 18 instead of 8, he would have been helping set those bombs.

 
 

Comment by JP | 2008-10-14 14:07:26

what’s the lie? obabma said he doesn’t exchange ideas with ayers on a regular basis. he did not say he never did or does. he exchanged ideas with ayers at this conference. and? what’s the lie????

Comment by Deep Truths | 2008-10-14 16:09:06

You can split hair all you want Obamabuttkisser but you cannot explain the fact that your Messiah is so frightened of being linked to Ayers that he omitted the Annenberg project from his wafer thin resume.

What say you to that, putz.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Galt. Master Thrall of Planet Triskelion | 2008-10-14 08:37:47

VS, great post!

Dots are being connected. The Precious better have parachutes for himself and his lemmings as they fall over the edge of the cliff. ;)

Comment by Pennsylvania goes RED! | 2008-10-14 09:24:14

I was listening to Bill Bennett this morning.

A self-identified “leaning liberal” caller spoke, expressing his discomfort over Ayers, Rev. Wright, and Farrakhan naming 0bama as the messiah. The caller sounded youngish, and really troubled over the turn the Democratic party has taken. He said he didn’t recognize his own party anymore.

This guy was not PUMA, may not even know what PUMA is. But he certainly was a voice for the misgivings that many centrist Democrats must be experiencing this election cycle.

Comment by Chiten | 2008-10-14 22:56:10

I always considered myself a left-leaning Democrat. Obama is making me question this.For 38 years, I have supported the Democratic Party and I still do, I am a democrat, through and through.
BUT. I know a load of manure when I see one and obama is a load of manure. McCain is an honorable man and probably the only republican who would be capable of getting my vote because even though he’s a republican, he’s an American first. He lived through pure hell out of respect and dedication to his country and that is a mark of an honorable man.
Obama has consistantly aligned himself with criminals, terrorists and people who seek to do this country harm.
Yes, there are very, very patriotic Democrats out there, I’m one ofthem. I’m a Democrat, but I support our troops (I don’t like the Commander-In-Chief any more than I like obama).
I trust McCain to protect our country and to put the country’s interest at the top of his list. I don’t trust obama and already know that he is at the top of his own list while our country isn’t even in his top 5.
I’m a Democrat for McCain/Palin. If Hillary had won, I’d be voting for Hillary, but it was stolen from her, so I will choose McCain because he is the best choice of the two we have.
Pelosi lost me when she took impeachment off the table.
Dean lost me when he handed the nomination to obama even though Hillary won the popular vote and would have won the delegate count if it had not been fixed at the convention.
The DNC does NOT represent the Democratic Party this year and many of us will show our disgust by voting for the opposing party because McCain is safer for our country.

 
 
 

Comment by Patrick | 2008-10-14 08:42:20

Hey, last night on Fox (Hannity) there was a pollster who said the only way McCain could win is if something big comes out about Obama in the next week. Then he went on to say, “like this young man being caught on the Pakistan border thing”. What???? How is that linked to Obama? There is more to this than meets the eye! The Colmes quickly cut the guy off and moved on to another topic. It was THAT obvious!

Can someone tell me what is the link between that 20 year old man that was caught on the border and Obama? I know they confiscated his laptop,etc. Why would he say it? The mainstream media knows something we don’t right now! Someone please help!

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-10-14 08:48:42

We will have to read more about it….One can hope for McCain and Palin to get the truth out. I did see where one tee vee station reported on the law suit that Berg had against Obama and the DNC and in the interview he said that he thought that the RNC was going to break the story soon, maybe the week before the election, I think he was guessing.

Former UT law grad sues Obama, questions citizenship

Full interview-click little picture of Berg.

 

Comment by Richard | 2008-10-14 08:59:18

Does anyone have an other information about this? I saw him mention it too and he was quickly pushed to change the subject. Something is up! Oh to have Obama on that young man’s computer–it would be too precious! It would truly be a gift to America if somehow this 20 year old were connected to Obama.

Please, do more research on this subject. I found the article from this story on the AP, but it doesn’t mention a link to Obama yet.

 

Comment by Denise | 2008-10-14 09:01:30

Maybe this 20 year old was collecting campaign money.

Comment by Patrick | 2008-10-14 09:03:49

Good one. But have you heard how this relates to Obama, because the pollster referenced that it did.

Comment by Denise | 2008-10-14 09:15:40

Maybe this 20 year old works for ACORN and is registering people to vote absentee.

There are so many articles out now with something to say about Obama it makes it look as though he is being smeared instead of it being truth (to his voters).

Someone needs to pick one topic and stick with it but simplify it so that even the people interviewed by Howard Stern’s show can see the light.

 
 

Comment by HARP | 2008-10-14 09:12:40

Must be from Acorn……Getting out the vote.

 
 

Comment by Mark | 2008-10-14 09:02:02

THIS COULD BE BIG! Really big! Does anyone know what the pollster was referring to and how it relates to Obama? Seriously, he would not have pulled it out of his rear end. He had to have already heard there was some sort of line between this kid on the Pakistan border and Obama!

Comment by tzada | 2008-10-14 10:27:15

U.S. Man Arrested In Pakistani Hot Spot
Officers Probing Why 20-Year-Old Was In Border Region Frequented By Taliban, Al Qaeda

A 20-year-old American man was arrested late Monday at a checkpoint near the Afghan border in a tribal region where Pakistani troops are fighting Taliban and al Qaeda militants, police said.

Officers were investigating what the man was doing in the border area, which is believed to be a possible hiding place for Osama bin Laden and other foreign extremists, said one officer, Pir Shahab.

He said the man — identified on his passport as Juddi Kenan — did not have permission to be in the region as is required by Pakistani law. He was arrested at a checkpoint trying to enter Mohmand agency, Shahab said.

“He is holding an American passport, which shows him as a resident of Florida,” Shahab said.

Another police official, Marjan Khan at the station in Sarrokali, said the man was wearing traditional Pakistani clothes and appeared to be a civilian. “He has told us that he was a student at a community college in Florida, and wanted to enter the tribal region to see a friend.” Khan said the man carried a laptop and a travelling bag, adding that he had been shifted to an unknown place for more questioning, also by intelligence agencies.

A U.S. embassy spokesman said he had no information on the arrest.

Asked whether he was believed to be a journalist, a tourist, a researcher, or a suspected militant, Shahab said: “These are the questions we are trying to investigate.”

Militants in the tribal regency are blamed for rising attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Pakistani authorities often claim to kill or arrest foreign extremists, mostly from Afghanistan, the Middle East and Chechnya, in the area.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/13/world/main4518634.shtml

Comment by Mary Kay | 2008-10-14 10:44:25

Student from Florida, figures! Why do all the terroist nutcases end up down here?

 

Comment by Tucson | 2008-10-14 11:44:40

Fox News just reported about this guy.

 
 
 

Comment by Angelica | 2008-10-14 09:07:59

No, I had not heard! I think NO QUARTER should delve into this further. My Goodness, it keeps coming and coming! If they can link this young man to Obama, depending on what they find on his computer, we will finally have what we need.

 

Comment by waldenpond | 2008-10-14 09:51:29

On a different Fox show another person come on and statee that the American govt could not even confirm who it is? They had a name but no record of that person so they aren’t sure if is someone using an alias or the exact details? I wonder if our govt will hide this so that it has no effect on the election.

 

Comment by bemused | 2008-10-14 10:24:20

This was posted several times yesterday evening, here on at least two threads. Not sure who Ben is.

Comment by Ben | 2008-10-13 21:36:48
American man arrested in Pakistani border region
The Associated Press
Article Last Updated: 10/13/2008 12:46:09 PM MDT

PESHAWAR, Pakistan—A 20-year-old American man was arrested late Monday at a checkpoint near the Afghan border in a tribal region where Pakistani troops are fighting Taliban and al-Qaida militants, police said.
Officers were investigating what the man was doing in the border area, which is believed to be a possible hiding place for Osama bin Laden and other foreign extremists, said one officer, Pir Shahab.

He said the man—identified on his passport as Juddi Kenan—did not have permission to be in the region as is required by Pakistani law. He was arrested at a checkpoint trying to enter Mohmand agency, Shahab said.

“He is holding an American passport, which shows him as a resident of Florida,” Shahab said.

Another police official, Marjan Khan at the station in Sarrokali, said the man was wearing traditional Pakistani clothes and appeared to be a civilian. “He has told us that he was a student at a community college in Florida, and wanted to enter the tribal region to see a friend.” Khan said the man carried a laptop and a travelling bag, adding that he had been shifted to an unknown place for more questioning, also by intelligence agencies.

A U.S. embassy spokesman said he had no information on the arrest.

Asked whether he was believed to be a journalist, a tourist, a researcher, or a suspected militant, Shahab said: “These are the questions we are trying to investigate.”

Militants in the tribal regency are blamed for rising attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Pakistani authorities often claim to kill or arrest foreign extremists, mostly from Afghanistan, the Middle East and Chechnya, in the area.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_10710292

Comment by JustMe | 2008-10-14 16:12:53

they covered same thing again this morning on Fox just went over what was offered last night.

 
 
 

Comment by nancysabet | 2008-10-14 08:42:59

Why FOX or McCain campagin is not talking about this? The fact that Hussien Obama, Michelle and Ayer had this conference and it is documented is a great news.

Comment by csuzeq | 2008-10-14 11:47:01

I did see it on FOX today just a short while ago, but not much for details and nothing linked to Barfy, yet….

I hate internet rumors that may not be internet rumors, but we have to wait and see!

 
 

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-10-14 08:43:28

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Comment by nancysabet | 2008-10-14 08:44:39

 

Comment by jackie | 2008-10-14 08:45:46

This drives me nuts.

~~Obama hangs with anti-american terrorists.
~Promotes the removal of secret ballots for workers.
~Wishes to take money from people who have worked hard and been responsible and give it to folks who don’t act similarly.
~As a lawyer for ACORN sues banks that do not give irresponsibly unsound loans to people that cannot pay them back
~who buys houses with slumlord friends
~who hangs out with Louis Farahkan
~Accociates and funds ACORN through a shell company to illegally register people in at least 14 states.
~supports allowing babies born alive during an abortion to die.
~whose supporters threaten a 10 year old girl to influence the political activities of her mother.

ANd the media is promoting his as the next messiah.

Yes it was my daughter met by 2 thugs just off school grounds in a quiet Northern Virginia neighborhood. I’m the mom they want to stop from working for McCain apparantly I made a fuss here.

Confront me but leave the kids out of it.

Comment by Puget Sound Island Girl | 2008-10-14 09:06:25

Yes… LEAVE the kids out of this!

Very scary!

 

Comment by wodiej | 2008-10-14 10:13:16

that’s bullshit,I would press charges of harrassment, was your story carried by local news? Contact Fox and Hannity

Comment by PhxNickD | 2008-10-14 12:02:21

I would get a gun for self defense.

 
 
 

Comment by InsightAnalytical-GRL | 2008-10-14 08:50:58

When do we get a paid half-hour by the RNC/McCain exposing ALL this stuff???? Maybe they should turn it into a half-hour “Law and Order” or “CSI”…

****

A short, snappy literary excursion by guest poster American Lassie on some of the main characters in the ACORN-mortgage affairs…

Shakespeare, Warlocks and Barack Obama…

http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/shakespeare-warlocks-and-barack-obama/

You’ll like how the quotes are used to describe certain politicos…

 

Comment by Steven | 2008-10-14 09:02:00

reposted:
I have been pouring over pages and pages of the
Freedom Information Act
Federal Bureau Investigation-Weatherman Underground

Foreign Influence-Weather underground

Summery – It seems that the FBI has been on to an international Communist plot to overthrow the US government.Ayers is key player and it seems he is attempting to complete his dream of the destruction of Imperial USA thru a network of Communist countries, black panther groups, Islamic terror groups all bent on destroying USA.I come to this conclusion after reading pages of FBI secret documents released by freedom of information act. This explains Ayers intent and also the huge amount of overseas funds. I have forwarded all of my research to RNC and two news networks’ almost certain the gov knows of this plot and have stopped it in its tracks. I think the next phase is to calm the public’s fears and not cause mass rioting. This becoming public would be a major embarrassment to the US government. My best hopes are that they have a manufactured defeat of Obama in the works and he will bow out gracefully after the election rather than cause riots. All is not as it seems.
Its a pdf. file,please look up on line it contains damming evidence of Ayers group to destroy the USA :(

Comment by jackie | 2008-10-14 09:05:02

link please???

Comment by Steven | 2008-10-14 09:17:06

Comment by tzada | 2008-10-14 10:40:55

Steven please send it to the Drudge Report

Matt Drudge is a moderate and has no love for the MSM. Ask him to do an in depth expose. Send it to the UK Telegraph and the Canadian Free Press too and Asian Times.

 

Comment by tzada | 2008-10-14 10:56:33

Stanley Kurtz may do something too. The Washington Post as well as the Wall Street Journal, or World Net Daily. Hopefully it will start here with one of the Q writers. Great investigative work by you too.

Comment by Steven | 2008-10-14 11:46:09

Thanks,I do need some help,these files need so be saved to our computers and spread around the world.This info is a must read for all Obama supports.I hope NQ will save these pdf. files and we can dissect them together and put an end to Ayers socialist rebellion before its to late.

Comment by LookingForwardTo2012 | 2008-10-14 11:48:16

Steven…did you send your info to Sean Hannity? He has this up on his website now. Good work!

Comment by Steven | 2008-10-14 12:59:51

Do you have the link to the info? I dont see it on Sean Hannity site.

Comment by LookingForwardTo2012 | 2008-10-14 16:26:17

Steven,
It was there this morning on the left side, under “Hot Topics From the Boards”. It’s gone now, but you can probably access this mornings entries. Sorry to be so late in responding – just got home.

http://www.hannity.com/

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by LookingForwardTo2012 | 2008-10-14 10:46:35

Thanks for the link. It should be a very enlightening read!!!

 
 

Comment by LookingForwardTo2012 | 2008-10-14 09:03:28

Great discovery!!! Ayers has to make sure that all the other little terrorists-in-training get away with it, too. Was the title of the round the meeting between the three named “Guilty as Hell, Free as a Bird”???

Someone recently wrote that John McCain should just go ahead and accept defeat and lose gracefully. That arrogance will be the downfall of Obama. He has behaved, for the past 2 years, as if he would be POTUS. He has tried to brainwash everyone with that notion. I think his radical ideas are finally causing Independents, Republican and disillusioned Democrats to understand that…and that’s why we are seeing huge numbers for McCain/Palin at rallies.
Now, the media needs to take notice of that.

 

Comment by hank48188 | 2008-10-14 09:11:55

I saw a flyer online at a Blog I ran into from looking in the READERS ARTICLES Section at realclearpolitics.com. This Flyer was from the UIC about a Conference they were having, it was called “Intellectuals: Who Needs Them”, this Conference had Obama, Ayers and Michelle Obama speaking, I think it might have been 1997 but I could be wrong.

Comment by hank48188 | 2008-10-14 09:20:25

I was wrong about a few things, it was at UIC Union on April 19 & 20, 2002, it had one session with Obama, Ayers, author of “Fugitive Days” and a couple other people, in another it featured Bernadine Dohrn, it didn’t mention Michelle Obama. Intellectuals: Who Needs Them?

Comment by Truthteller | 2008-10-14 09:22:20

Why did Barack Obama attend this conference? In my opinion he is not an intellectual.

Comment by hank48188 | 2008-10-14 10:47:12

The subject for the Group Discussion with Obama, Ayers and 4 other was “Intellectuals in Times of Crisis”, Dohrn was one of 5 people talking about “Why Ideas Matter”

 
 
 
 

Comment by kgirl1028 | 2008-10-14 09:17:45

I can say i agree on ayers on that topic because kids do get a bad rap and depending on race and SES status a child can thrown in jail with an adult sentance. While others serve time in Juvi and have their records expunged. HOWEVER! if aryes and obama had wanted to do something to change this they should have not wasted their money in the anneberg challenged on teaching children on liberal values they should have could have created alternative programs for students at high risk. there are a lot of parents that try to get their kids help for what ever reason and are bushed off. and sometiems if a child completes a program they can not return even if their behavior relaps. They could have started after school progams given children constructive, activities considering their school days are so short that provided toutering, improving the quality of education provided, provide couciling for students, PSAT preperations, more challenging class work, work programs for older students that allowed them to do things to make them feel included like helping yonger students, working with senior citizens, I mean the list of things they could have done could go on and on.. but they choice their own personal agenda over the kids they claim to be trying to help. That alone should have told obama ayers was not “reformed.” Maybe if Bill spent more time actually doing something for other people, he wouldn’t have so much free time to stand on top of flags.

 

Comment by countryfirst_obamanever | 2008-10-14 09:24:31

Unfortunately, we will need a photo of Ayers and Obama together at Columbia University to wake people up. :-(

SOMEONE PLEASE DO A THREAD ON OBAMA’S TAX PLAN SHOWING HOW HE WILL RAISE TAXES ON EVERYONE!
http://wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html

 

Comment by Will Smith | 2008-10-14 09:32:01

While the foregoing Democrats collected obscene sums of cash as reward for their complicity in the subprime mortgage debacle, by no means were they the only beneficiaries of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac money. Between 1989 and 2008, no fewer than 354 members of Congress received funds from Fannie and Freddie. Of those, 209 were Democrats who pulled in a combined $4.84 million. The leading recipient of Fannie/Freddie money was Connecticut Democrat Chris Dodd, the Banking Committee Chairman who collected more than $165,000. Dodd opposed oversight of Fannie and Freddie and pushed hard for the continuance of subprime mortgage loans. In second place was Barack Obama, who, in just three years in the U.S. Senate, raked in $126,000. Third was Massachusetts Democrat John Kerry, with $111,000.

Republicans, too, deserve a measure of criticism. Some 143 of them received Fanny and Freddie funds totaling just under $3.02 million. Utah Republican Robert Bennett, a Senate veteran, led the GOP with $107,999 in total contributions from the mortgage giants. Two independents also took in over $28 thousand.

As further evidence of the Democrats’ role in the credit crisis, consider Fannie Mae’s intimate relationship with the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC), which represents the far-left of the Democratic Party. At a 2005 ceremony, Fannie Mae’s interim CEO Daniel Mudd told the CBC (of which Barack Obama was a new member) how deeply he valued “the friendship and partnership between Fannie Mae and the Congressional Black Caucus.” Mudd referred to the CBC not only as “good friends to Fannie Mae and our mission,” but also as Fannie Mae’s “family” and “the conscience of Fannie Mae.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0

 

Comment by Zimeeisme | 2008-10-14 09:34:34

OT but…Oh Geez…Acorn is the victim now. I see it coming..

 

Comment by lark | 2008-10-14 09:40:49

On ACORN crimes.

If Barclay, the Domino’s employee who registered 13 times or more does not acknowledge after submitting to inquiry by the Election Board that he has committed a crime or violated the law, and says in no uncertain terms that he has done no wrong, then there is only one alternative left, prosecute the fellow to the full extent of the law.

Since we will probably be unwilling to do that, then as the letter from Michelle suggests, why call him anything but a “MODEL CITIZEN.”

Those complete lack of moral compass is what ACORN, Ayers, and Sen. Obama use to cash in order to set up the ‘CHANGE IN AMERICA’ that they are after.

 

Comment by notrees | 2008-10-14 09:43:41

In Germany at about the same time a fascist movement similiar to that in Italy steadily gathered strength; it called itself the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (Nazi Party). It’s leader, Adolph Hitler, won support from the middle class ruined by inflation, from certain elements of the working class, especially the unemployed, and from discontented war veterans; he also gained the backing of powerful financial interests, to whom he symbolized stability and order. However, it was not until 1933 that Hitler could carry through his plans for making Germany a fascist state and the National Socialists the sole legal party in the country.

Encyclopedia.com

 

Comment by ConcernedCitizenX | 2008-10-14 09:43:46

Here is a link to a page I found using the old Google Search engine. It is an interesting document reflective of the Marxist revolutionary views of Ayers and Dohrn in the late 60’s and how they tie into the “black liberation” movement. As those who have seen the videos of Ayers and Dohrn talking in Nov. 07 know, they still hold these views. Now remember, Obama’s training is as liberation-oriented Alinskyite organizer and Rev. Wright’s church is a “black liberation theology church”. I know this is just more connecting of the dots but it helps flesh out the full picture of Obama’s obvious radicalism. Interestingly, the document quotes Bobby Rush, who defeated Obama in his original bid for Congress largely by calling Obama inauthentic, as saying he will judge Ayers and Dohrn’s SDS by “the company it keeps”. Funny how the far left, when it serves it’s ends to hide under the umbrella of the Democratic Party, now wants to disavow judging Obama by the company he keeps. Here’s the link for those interested:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010109183000/www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/wim/wyl/text.php?mimfile=sdsonplp.txt

 

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-10-14 09:44:47

They want to make sure super predators stay around so ACORN can get out their votes between their murders. Not that their dead parents wouldn’t be voting in Chicago.

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-10-14 09:45:26

“Kill your parents!”
–Bill Ayers

Comment by MEchelle Hates America! | 2008-10-14 09:52:01

Maybe that’s Oblowme’s plan for Social Security.

 
 
 

Comment by notrees | 2008-10-14 09:55:39

Mussolini distinguished fascism from liberal capitalism in his 1928 autobiography: The citizen in the Fascist State is no longer a selfish individual who has the anti social right of rebelling against any law of the Collectivity. The Fascist State with it’s corporative conception puts men and their possibilities into productive work and interprets for them the duties they have to fulfill.

The Concise Encyclopedia of Economics.

Benito Mussolini was a one time Marxist editor.

 

Comment by The Hawk | 2008-10-14 09:58:36

The media will refuse to report anything about Obama that may hurt him politically. There is an active federal court case Berg vs. Obama that the media has refused to report about.

If you do not know about this case here is a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

Obama lies about everything, ACORN, Ayers, and Wright.

But he hasn’t had a chance to lie about his citizenship. Please spread the word about this active court case. Here is the official court docket:
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/

And check out this site for updates:
obamacrimes.com

 

Comment by CE415 | 2008-10-14 10:00:04

reference to story of 20 yr old American detained in Pakistan

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4941047.ece

 

Comment by liz | 2008-10-14 10:04:50

Ayers’ new book is called “Race Course Against White Supremecy”. It’s available now on Amazon for pre-order—to launch in June 2009.

Also, I saw somewhere that Ayers (in his 1988 book) mentioned Barack Obama as a “writer” in his neighborhood. Does anyone have Ayers’ books to check it out?

 

Comment by LookingForwardTo2012 | 2008-10-14 10:10:31

I linked this on an open thread yesterday.
ACORN group says they’re going to beat McCain down.
Very short quip, but it certainly discredits the notion that they are non-partisan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tkM7evLrEU

Comment by Millie | 2008-10-14 11:21:16

Please forward this video to Hannity or Greta at Fox news.

Comment by LookingForwardTo2012 | 2008-10-14 11:49:31

Thanks…just forwarded.

 
 
 

Comment by Jessie Britton | 2008-10-14 10:13:49

Fox just had an article on Obama’s tax plan. I will speak to only one part and that being where he gives tax credits to up to 63% of the so called tax payers and they will receive refunds, although they paid no taxes, the government will just mail them a check, I don’t know the amount, maybe $ 1,000 to $5,000 who knows, maybe more based on their tax credits, even though they paid no taxes. I know this sounds confusing. Obama just wants to let some of his base know that a vote for him will get them a check in the mail. You know who will pay for all this, the tax payers who do not get a check. He says just 5% will pay this and I say you got to be “kidding”, this kind of welfare program is nothing more than a redistribution of wealth. I am a middle class retiree and I get no tax credits and if I have to pay any more, I will have to start requesting some of those welfare checks. That is what they are, no more no less, welfare checks!

Comment by wodiej | 2008-10-14 10:17:41

that is exactly what Obama’s plan is….take money from hardworkers and give it to lazy ass people.

Comment by Docelder | 2008-10-14 12:08:51

I believe he wants everybody to have a job… everybody in Cuba has a job. He is very adept at phrasing his rhetoric. You just have to decode it.

 
 

Comment by LookingForwardTo2012 | 2008-10-14 11:53:24

That was my thought, too. Bill Clinton worked with others on the “Welfare to Work” program. An Obama POTUS would work hard to undo it…and add more to the rolls.

 
 

Comment by typewriterstreaming | 2008-10-14 10:15:55

Remember this woman who posted here a few days ago:
This is on Drudge right now:
Secret Service visits Lufkin woman after ‘death threat’ allegation from an Obama campaign volunteer
Talk about Commie tactics.

 

Comment by sjc-tx | 2008-10-14 10:23:50

No, we are not responsible for our actions… That is what obama sets by example. That may be why the ‘youth’ eat it up. He is about their age in maturity. Just look at the people he “looks to for advice”… Does he even know ANYONE who isn’t slimy in some form or another??? Who will he blame or the media blame when he says something really ridiculous to a foreign leader?? He won;t have the protection of msm running interference… This man is DANGEROUS and I am sick of hearing how well spoken and intelligent he is. BullSHIT. He is a clever self-serving thug!

link abit OT but maybe not…
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/washington-times-calls-obama-out-for-race-baiting/#comment-7573

Comment by tzada | 2008-10-14 11:17:20

Look at this picture. Look at Obama big toothy grin. To me the person who made the sign is accusing Sarah of being KKK and Obama grin is approving that message.

They may try and make it about “scary” halloween but we know it for what it is RACISM. Hey that card plays both ways. It was on the Drudge report today.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081013/capt.df31609e4849466094b710181193af07.obama_2008_ohjh120.jpg?x=400&y=314&q=85&sig=G4_e_gnAecYjj2pBPhCRtA–

 
 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2008-10-14 10:32:38

WTF is wrong with people? What does Barack Obama have to do so he can be held accountable? Isnt it ironic that they use the whole “McCain is just like Bush” theme by using the guilty by association, message but when you do it to bambi with Ayers its different. But thats alright. We start early voting on the 16th in NC and we are going to delight in sending his as$ to the house. Plus we are almost at are goal to have all our vans running ALL day instead of a couple of hours. Gas prices went down a little bit….enough to make you think your not really paying alot…

Comment by LookingForwardTo2012 | 2008-10-14 11:58:11

Good! Send him to the house and let him at least attempt to do the stepping-stone job that he was elected to do! (being that he got that one so honorably)

 
 

Comment by Linda | 2008-10-14 10:34:34

OMG EXCELLENT WORK, NQ

Well, more proof to uncover his lies and fairy tale.

A close working relationship between them all. Michelle called upon her husband and friend to join together, plan, and speak. AND, AND, because of AYERS interest in children, who was studying this….did YOU notice, OBAMA “WILL BE BLOCKING LEGISLATION” FOR AYERS PET PROJECT

…just some guy in his neighborhood?

Comment by Linda | 2008-10-14 10:50:34

just some guy in his neighborhood? More proof of Obama’s lies and fairy tale. They not only organized and worked together on boards, launching his political career, but, when Obama tries to claim they never interacted, they magically joined together for a discussion panel and Obama was going to use his position in his newly elected government seat that Ayers launched to block legislation for Ayers pet project?

 
 

Comment by AdrianS | 2008-10-14 10:46:51

 

Comment by Soldier of Christ | 2008-10-14 10:51:18

Some guy in his neighborhood. Let them go back to Frank Davis from Obama’s book. Frank Davis knew Thomas Ayers who knew Obama’s mother’s father. Obama’s mentor, knew the Father of Billy Ayers, and Then Obama was introducted to Frank Davis. What is wrong with this picture? This friendhship involving all the families go way back. Frank, a child molester, and disqusting sexual predator, was OBama’s mentor. Let me get this straight- Obama thought that a child molester, sexual predator, a man who enjoying someone urining on him and flogging him, is a MENTOR? Obama is really mixed up—-I think that limo incident is true.

Comment by Docelder | 2008-10-14 12:03:54

Question is… what kind of grandparent would let their grandson hang with Davis? Not a grandpa that takes you fishing and gives you butter rum lifesavers… and not a grandma who bakes you cookies. Barack is a product of his environment… no doubt about that one.

 
 
 

Comment by Truthteller | 2008-10-14 11:02:07

The press must ask Michelle Obama about her deep, lasting and controversial ties to Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.

Comment by Linda | 2008-10-14 11:10:23

DEFINITELY.

 
 

Comment by PewL | 2008-10-14 11:13:01

Hope someone sends this info to Sean Hannity at Fox,He’s not afraid to show Obama’s true colours… Fox is the only station,not in the tank for Obama…

 

Comment by IndieDogg | 2008-10-14 11:36:25

About time we took a look at Mama Obama (Michelle). She is a link that will lead to interesting places, I wager. Her past is closely linked to activism and organizing. After all, she is the one who uttered the amazing comment that this is the first time she’s been proud of her country. Check the famous fist bump. These are partners in every sense of the word. Nothing against fist bumps, but it’s more illustrative than a hand shake. They’re in this together, and have been for many years.

Good work.

Point. Michelle is actually FROM Chicago, as is Bill Ayers. Barack is not. She grew up on the South Side. Her dad was a Democrat organizer. I wonder about whether or not she had connections to Trinity church. Who decided to go there, her or Barack?

Michelle worked at the law firm where Dhorn worked. Barack, too, of course, later, where he met Michelle. But, Michelle first. Remember, Barack waited 5 years to go to law school after college. What was the relationship, if any, between Michelle and Dhorn.

We always overlook the women, don’t we. Awfully ironic.

Comment by Docelder | 2008-10-14 12:00:17

What was the relationship, if any, between Michelle and Dhorn

These two worked together at Sidley & Austin. Barack intened there and met Michelle there. They all know each other from Sidley & Austin days.

 

Comment by Chelsea Patriot | 2008-10-14 19:19:46

Bernadine Dohrn was in charge of the summer interns when she met Michelle. Dohrn played matchmaker and introduced Michelle and Barry.

Dohrn is the real sicko in the Bill/ Bernie couple. And Michelle is the real freak in the Obama’s

 
 

Comment by PewL | 2008-10-14 13:09:44

 

Comment by Steven | 2008-10-14 13:52:23

Alice J.Palmer Dem state senator 13h district served as an executive board member of US peace council which the FBI identified as a Communist front group.An affiliate of the world peace council an international Soviet front.Palmer hand picked Obama to fill her new senate seat.The only trick was distancing herself from him, so they ran against each other,wink wink.To clean Obama from Communist affiliation.All in FBI memos.

 

Comment by PamFlorida | 2008-10-14 14:07:15

The stories about Ayers, Dorne, the Weathermen, & the radicalism of the 60’s and early 70’s are not resonating with people under 50 because they are too young to remember. They don’t even understand the meaning of Civil Rights Movement, much less Nazism, Facism, Socialism, Communism, the cold war, Russia, Castro and the Cuban Revolution, etc.
What needs to be explained is how these social experiments exploited the poor and middle class and enriched the elites. Cuba is a perfect example. The masses are all equal-they have nothing. The elites have everything.
The connection between Obama and Ayers is better explained by the socialistic ideas they share and the radical means by which they hope to achieve their ends.
The promises Obama makes are Socialistic and virtually the same as all the other ‘isms’. For every handout you receive from the State, there is a price to pay. Loss of freedoms that we take for granted. You are at the mercy of the State and the decisions it makes for you.
Anyone who has ever applied for unemployment, social security, medicad, or any other government program can tell you how many hoops one has to go through to receive those benefits and how slow they are in coming. Ask an Iraq war veteran or a Vietnam vet how they are being treated? Mounds of paperwork and bureaucracy to justify why their wounds, physical or mental, are a result of serving in the military.
Take note of the fact that those who promote ’spread the wealth’ are very wealthy. The “wealth” they intend to spread around is ours, not theirs. This is Socialism, pure and simple.
Obama & friends are Socialists. That is the message we need to send.

 

Comment by Fredpr62 | 2008-10-14 18:54:50

“He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.” = He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis, BUT ONLY ON OCCASIONALY BASIS.

 

Comment by Kathie In Arkansas | 2008-10-14 20:37:39

I sent this to CNN, NBC, FOX, etc. please people do the same. I cannot believe they are carping about Ayers and ignoring this.

*************************************

Please someone report on this, it is so much worse than Ayers, Wright, Rezko, or ACORN. Obama went to Kenya as a US Senator and campaigned on behalf of his first cousin Odinga, who lost then ordered the murder of thousands. Please go to the BCC site and then to the Washington Times story from Sunday. If this gets air it will have a major impact and could very well be the October surprise that could shock people back to the reality of who Obama is.

If he can do this as a sitting US Senator, what would he do as president?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7176683.stm

http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/oct/12/obamas-kenya-ghosts/

 

Comment by Rob Diego | 2008-10-14 23:09:03

Of course Ayers would want special treatment for kids who do what he wants them to do…which is kill their parents.

 

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