Late Night Obamabot Pornography Open Thread
By Concerned Mother on October 14, 2008 at 12:30 AM in Misogyny, Obama's Thugs, Open Thread, Sarah Palin, Sexism
Well, Andrea Dworkin and I — she’s my colleague –define pornography as the sexually — a practice of sex inequality, and defined as the sexually explicit subordination of women through pictures and words that also includes a list of other very specific activities. In other words, it’s defined in terms of what it actually does. It subordinates women as well as being a sexually explicit medium. There are other media that subordinate women but are not sexually explicit, and therefore don’t have the same effects.
- Catharine MacKinnon
According to Catharine MacKinnon, the following words and images propagated by Obamabots’ are pornographic: they are sexually explicit, and they explicitly subordinate women. What concerns me is how a debate feminists had during the 1980s has relevance to the political situation in 2008. The Obama campaign has moved us backward, not forward, and women will ultimately pay the price.
Just view the following images of Obama supporters subordinating women in an overtly sexual manner:
I will vote Republican, for the Democratic Party and the Obama campaign are aiding and abetting the subordination and objectification of women with this pornographic imagery.
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These images are beyond disgusting.
Should I hold my breath until Senator Obama speaks out against these heinous graphics? Oh wait, I would expire first.
And since he disproportionately gets the vote of the life challenged, he would have no incentive to say anything at all.
Where is the Democratic Party?
marisa — Obama and his supporters can attack women in the most disgusting fashion. However, we cannot wear a white blouse or we are racists.
Still this one is the worst I think…
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/palin.JPG
Obama does not “attack women”. Good grief, please get a grip on your rhetoric. If you examine the policies of the various candidates with regard to women, for example, you will see that Obama is without a doubt the better candidate for women on the issuess. Just because a few fringe supporters of his make and wear these disgraceful T-shirts, do not fallaciously blame Obama for their actions. He does not endorse this sort of thing.
Oh yes he does endorse this hate with his silent consent as early as the primaries AND on HIS website.
Now go back and report to Axelrove you shameless Obot brownshirt.
You forget that your precious started this by calling Palin a pig. We all know that Obama and his obots hate women. Your attempt to obfuscate this point is laughable.
If you believe Obama called Palin a pig, then you’re ready to believe anything. You are incapable of critical thinking. He did no such thing.
OD That’s funny. The Obama campaign implied that the man selling Curious George T-shirts was working for Hillary… which he was not of course.
No, he prefers to associate with some real winners instead.
Classy people like Rev Wright, though BO sat in the pughs for 20 years the only time he was racist and accused the US Gov of inventing AIDS to kill black people was when the Obama’s were not in attendance. Real classy folks like Bill Ayers from terrorist to “respected” Professor. Like convicted felon Tony Rezko whom he bought some sweetheart land from. Oh but it’s all good. He is the messiah huh?
What I want to know is why none of the ‘great’ feminists of my generation aren’t decrying this mysogynism. Where are the men, who consider themselves civil rights leaders? Or are civil rights only for African American males.
I note that neither Bill nor Hillary have demeaned Gov Palin.
I think we got the message when this was posted earlier. There really is no place for this anywhere and especially on this website. Lets show more respect for every woman by refusing to show the pictures. Just flat out ban them. Its one thing to talk about them. It is another to continue to post them. I am offended by them and I think they should be removed immediately. I know they exist the same way I know there is evil in the world. I choose to rail against it and defeat it every chance I can.
Please remove these offensive pictures!
I have to agree.
I have to disagree.
Totally disagree. Everyone should have to look at these, especially people who think Obama represents some kind of positive change for this country. From here, the pics will get sent around the world.
Indeed. These pictures help define the obama movement.
And it will assist us in getting the word out to undecideds. I plan to create a brochure from these images with the caption:
“Is this the change we can believe in?”
and distribute on bulletin boards in my area.
A picture is worth a thousand words. So I think these pictures should be available to see not only what Obama’s young male followers are doing, but also to see as well how young women are foolishly tolerating what these boys are doing.
I cannot imagine how the mothers of these children failed to install a sense of respect for women.
Apparently many dont get the picture.
Apparently the Obama camp thinks that they have Very Well behaved Non-Sexist Non-Racist followers.
Apparently the Obama camp thinks that its the McCain followers who are sexist, racist and violent.
Don’t you DARE start removing the pictures or hiding this hate.
If people get offended, they can click on a different story.
Most of us are grown ups.
If you stop exposing this sort of thing, it enables them. Hiding it and not talking about it is half the reason we are in this mess.
Never stop shining the light on them.
I’ll have you know, the “Sarah is a cunt” photos from earlier entries were aired on Fox News.
The regular media wants to manipulate reality, only showing meanie McCain supporters, while HIDING the Obots and their hate. Don’t do it. Don’t help them.
Would make sense if Obots wanted these pictures removed.
It’s embarrassing shit.
kat in your hat — I agree. We all need to see what Obama really thinks about women. The words aren’t disgusting — the man who tolerates this being done in his name is disgusting.
I first learned about Hitler when I was very young. And I remember thinking, Hitler didn’t kill 11,000,000 people… it took thousands to kill millions. And most of them did this by just standing by.
Well said……
I agree Kat. This has to be EXPOSED to the light of day. How would anyone have known the horrors of the Holocaust if pictures didn’t exist? How would people understand racism if pictures of hangings of blacks weren’t shown? This is the behavior the msn has been covering up for months, first against Hillary and now Gov Palin. I wish someone would send them to N.O.W. since I don’t know how. They have sent out nothing but negative emails against Sarah Palin since the Republican convention. I would send them to John Lewis also after his comments this weekend.
I so agree with you. These people need to be exposed for the slime that they are, and shown to the world, as this is what Barky has wrought. Not inspiring confidence in me, and certainly not looking like change I believe in.
Hmmmm….What if these were shirts that had Barky’s picture on them and an equivalent epithet…Would that get news coverage?
I think it’s a bit nasty and adolescent…But these insults usually are.
Candidates cannot control this sort of thing but they can have an influence.
Republican supporters ( the tacky ones ) did this sort of thing in previous campaigns with Ferraro etc…2 wrongs don’t make a right.
I find it sad to see this…Obviously the people who choose to express themselves this way have been pampered and have never been the target of hateful speech and the violence that often accompanies it.
Would these children who pretend to care so much about Human Rights and other Worldly concerns care to wear a shirt like this into a hospital in Darfur and explain it to the hundreds of brutally raped and injured women and female children who were no doubt called something like this as they were assaulted?
I’m sure it an be translated into the appropriate language.
In this country we have laws that protect free speech. What we have lost in our culture is a sense of decorum…
My Mother always told me ” A little shame is a good thing…A little guilt keeps you on the straight road…”
The Democrats didn’t seem to care when such violent acts were committed by the Taliban in the 1990s, saying that forcing professional women to leave their jobs, forcing them to wear burkas and stoning them when they wouldn’t, in addition to rounding up women and killing them, because it was a “cultural issue”. So what would cause them to act now?
I would also like to note that I completely disaffiliated myself after 20 years for being an active member from NOW, NARAL, and Planned Parenthood for supporting Obama when Hillary wasn’t even out of the nomination contention yet. Obama has thrown all of these groups under the bus, and they still support him.
Then later, I emailed them and told them they are “Women who love their party too much” (this variation of the book is from InsightAnalytical, I believe) and need to wake up to the abuse they are putting up with from the Democratic Party and Obama in particular. Like abused women, by staying with their abuser, are setting up their young women for a lifetime of abuse.
So much for feminist empowerment!
Actually, I believe the reference was from Alegre’s Corner.
Have you ever got a response to your letters?
I disagree (and I’m a woman). Why should we help sweep the depravity of Obots and the Democratic Party under the rug? Whey should we censor them? The world should see the deceased maniacs these Obama worshippers are.
kathy — right if Obama can’t see this is wrong then the Democratic Party should say we don’t support these kind of attacks against women. They won’t say a word and it will cost them on Nov 4th. We all watched as Obama did the same thing to Hillary. Most of us called the DNC but nothing was done. This is the new Democratic Party and these are their new supporters. I am glad I no longer identify myself with this party or this nominee.
…and now Hillary is watching while he does this to Sarah…
I am very disgusted & disappointed that America is being torn to pieces by this thugs ! Is this what America wants to show to the world? To the countries, America wants to bring a democratic form of goverment? Total disrespect ? What a joke !
This abuse to women is unforgivable. Those doing this will carry the burden in their lives/conscience, for the next generation is following their behavior.May they burn in hell of guilt ! Shame shame shame !
God Save America !!!
What happened to women in these metropolis is a harbinger of things to come. It confirms our worse suspicions. Repression will ensue and a cultural war will end in great losses.
What’s the matter? Don’t like being exposed for what you are?
So, just how do you define the ideology of people who do this kind of horrible stuff?
BTW, Tina Fey says she’s leaving the planet if Palin wins. Maybe she’ll take up permanent residence on the space station.
Tina Fey, persona non grata
I hope so. Let’s beam her up now along with Letterman, Sandra Bernhard, Matt Damon, etc. etc.
Do you suppose that McCain will witness these kinds of display in his way to the Letterman show on Thursday? And will he bring up the subject for D. Letterman to mock.
I became so aware of sexism in the primaries and really thought deeply about the problem then, that I must confess….none of this bothers me much.
I got it. It was somewhat validating to be honest.
I think I prefer life when the challenges are clear and on the table.
My own life, in corporate america in the last decade, was a lot murkier. I sensed the sexism, of course.
But this is actually easier.
My best bud in corporate and I decided we should get small dildos, and that way, when we entered our meetings, we could whip out these *items* and just say, “OK, fellas….we’ve got one, too.”
*haha
I still think it would be a hot seller for Christmas gifts.
annin — I don’t get you at all. So this kind of sexism doesn’t bother you. Women have to wear veils and burkas in Muslim countries and Mr. Obama was born a Muslim. How would you like to live in a society where if a woman has sex prior to marriage her father has a right to kill her. Would you be happy if this country allowed women’s clits are sewed shut and they have to walk 12 paces behind their husbands? Think it can’t happen here? Or is it just too funny to contemplate?
Question 1. Did the fear of this happening to Hillary had an effect on her as the end of the campaign approached? We don’t know, do we.
Obama was not born a Muslim. (Even if it were true that he was — which it isn’t — it shouldn’t make any difference.) Please do not spread untruths.
This is a fact you cannot deny away. In Islam a child is automatically Muslim if the father is/was Muslim. Obama’s father was Muslim, thus he was born Muslim.
Islam also deems anyone born Muslim an apostate if the practice a different religion or become a convert to a different religio, unless they have done so to protect themselves and are thus dissembling.
In those cases where a Muslim has actually converted any Muslim from anywhere in the world has the right to kill that “apostate” since the punishment for apostasy is death.
There are english translations of the Koran in case you wish to verify this.
The Apostate portion of Sharia Law has bothered me from the start. If Obambi has really given up Islam how could Farrakahn support him? How could Congressman Ellison support him? How could all of the Muslim leaders still support Obambi?
Sorry, OD. Sharia law says he was. Muslim Daddy and all that. - Not to mention his adoptive Muslim StepDaddy.
(BTW, It may be time for you to consult a Sharia lawyer. Denying someone’s muslimhood is apostasy, a tongue-chopping offense in some countries.)
I wonder if Sheikh-in-Chief Obama’s new national health care plan covers mandatory clitorodectomies.
Barky was born a muslim and raised as one By Soetero…it is a fact.
Follow your own advice, OD. There is evidence he was in fact practicing Islam. Like his school enrollment and reminisces from people there. And Muammar Qaddafi. And the Kenyans. They all think he is or was muslim.
If Muslim law dictates that anyone born to Muslim parents is a Muslim, then that is a trivial sense in which to be Muslim. As anyone with an eye in their head can see, Obama — by hi sown free choice and not by the dictates of any others — is a practicing Christian. (Not that this is important either; I myself am strongly agnostic.)
WTF??!!
I believe that women who could support Obama despite his blatant misogyny are exhibiting the classic manifestation of the battered wife/woman/child syndrome.
exactly — all the female types pictured with the males will do anything to please their male type person.
Way back in the Vietnam war era — the levels of hatred toward women was also fever pitched. I asked the male types “why?”
Their response was because the women weren’t drafted and therefore really had no rights to have an opinion. THAT was basically the peace/anti-war males reasoning for yelling at women — some really rude sexist pig remarks.
There is no draft today — and I see the same sort of sexism but it is really much worse — it is far more vicious and vile compared to the earlier era.
I do NOT remember C*&t on t-shirts EVER EVER EVER! That sort of language was never out in the public — there were words — but not the images like I’m seeing posted here.
This is worse — this sort of behavior goes back — way way way back in time to the slaughter of females throughout Europe — supposedly because the women were witches. THIS was a holocaust for women — total lose of personal power. I’ve read some of the old documents in the original handwriting of the witch trials in Scotland of “witches” — completely barbaric. The same sort of hatred toward women can be found in the “testimony” of “witnesses” in the witch trails as we see on the faces of these mostly young sub-humanoids in the photos.
I hold Obama personally responsible for this vile evil malignant hatred he has unleashed in America.
If you don’t mind, I would like to use this statement on other blogs.
I hold Obama personally responsible for this vile evil malignant hatred he has unleashed in America
Obama needs an attitude adjustment!
He needs adjustments on many levels, but not on my time or my dime. And certainly not in the White House. He exhibits some disturbing personality traits, and reminds me so much of GeeDubya, only worse in a way, ’cause GeeDubya had a shorter leash on him.
You seem to disregard that he has given countless people immense hope.
OD…HOPE? Bull
Hope of what? To be called pornographic names by his acolytes?
Hope is something eveyone can have for free. It is not a commodity. It’s a FEELING. You don’t run the world on Hope. Try paying your bills on hope. Hitler gave many people immense hope right before he led them all to hell.
Please don’t be silly. I am not talking about hope as somehow detached from the content of what is hoped for. The hope that Obama inspires in people includes that of being led, finally, by an intelligent leader. You do not become president of the Harvard law review if you are stupid. After Bush, the prosept of being led by one such as Obama is immensely hopeful to many people.
OD, would you agree Obama was the lamest President of the Harvard Law Review ever since he’s the only person ever to hold that title without actually writing something to be published in the HLR?
It’s kind of like the other titles he’s held, such as Senator and State Senator. I think Obama really enjoys being a figurehead and enjoying the perks of his various positions. But the actual duties and work required in the positions he’s held? Not so much.
Whether he has published in the HLR is beside the point. Of course, if you would prefer a president who has published in that journal, then it is quite likely that I will agree to him or her being POTUS. The point is this: in a forced choice situation between Obama and McCain, Obama is the more intelligent, as is evidenced by his having even been the president of the HLR. McCain has no such credentials; quite the opposite.
He has given countless people immense HOPIUM, and now they march around with idiot grins and tombstones in their eyes.
Is that you, Freedom Fighter? Can these people take hope to the bank?
Northwest Rain — I totally agree.
The correct first response.
The man has never issued an apology yet, for anything whatsoever.
That’s right. Obama has personally called forth and unleashed the deep misogyny in this country, and has set women back decades.
The man has two daughters, which makes his behavior and complicity even more despicable.
Does anyone know how to contact Jerome Corsi? With all the documentation he has (emails, cell phone records, etc) linking Obama with Odinga, I would think that he could simply walk all that stuff into the FBI or the DOJ and plop it down on someones desk and ask to initiate an investigation. These were government email accounts (Obama’s and Lippert’s) for heaven’s sake. Aren’t they subject to the Freedom of Information Act?
It seems that it would be easy enough to investigate Obama’s and Lippert’s government email accounts and see if, they did, in fact, meddle in and/or raise money for Odinga in the Kenyan election. If it was a Republican senator taking “fact-finding” trips and campaigning for a foreign candidate, we would never hear the end of it. There probably would have been 5 or 6 Special Prosecutors appointed by now.
Marie,
You could try leaving a message here:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/stations/headingright/americatalks/2008/10/13/america-talks
David Zublick
Also, you could contact mommaE at monksblog.com
correction: http://www.monksmedia.com
I don’t think the FBI or Homeland Security give a darn, do you?
Now that we know the lack of intelligence and dignity of the followers, I think these should be sent to Axelrod by the RNC and the representative of their campaign should issue not only an apology but a statement that this won’t be tolerated by decent people. This sort of thing leaves people heart sick. Let’s get rid of it.
A temple has many columns. A house has many walls. These messages are part of the structure of a temple, a house. The house of Obama. You are looking at only one of those columns. You are looking at one of those walls.
What are the other columns, the other walls?
Appalling. These images are so far beyond the pale that I am almost speechless. This is the face of the new Democrat Party?
i’ve said it before; scary.
Do not remove them.
I had not seen them before and I’m sure there are others who have not either.
They are beyond offensive, but since they’re out there people need to know what the Obama followers inspired by their leader are doing.
Let people get the full effect of their nastiness.
Listen, I don’t have proof of this, but read in a comment on another thread in this blog that Axelrod & Obama are probably having their supporters dress up like McCain/Palin fans and yell things like “terrorist” and “kill him” at the McCain/Palin rallies.
Obama is a complete fraud - just like when he gave the Jerusalem press copies of the prayer that he stuck in the Wailing Wall and then set up one of his followers to “steal” it and leak it to the press.
That was so disgusting I wanted to puke.
Obama does this kind of thing all the time.
There is not one authentic bone in his body.
What is it that Obama does all the time? Please don’t make claims that, by your own admission, you cannot support with evidence (cf. your comment that “I don’t have proof of this, but…”).
Read about the Texas caucus. It has been going on for months. It is also documented.
OD, since when do Axelpuke’s employees make the posting rules at No Quarter? Bethtopaz can post her opinion as she likes. She doesn’t have to answer to your standards of “evidence”, especially since your posts show you to be incapable of weighing “evidence” even when it bites you in your self-righteous ass.
You are angry. No one can be reasonable when they are angry.
That was in a news report. The video was posted here somewhere.
This is like the most horrible election i have ever witnessed.
Me, too — I feel like I’m in the Twilight Zone.
Suddenly the Department of Education of the Schools of Arts and Sciences from the thousands upon thousands of great universities and colleges all over the country are giving away the results from the magnificence philosophies that have been developed over the course of the last two centuries, and the greatness of the theories of educational psychology that have shaped the properties of public education in our country in the last 40 years.
Yeah that must be why Johnny can’t read.
Do not remove them.
I had not seen them before and I’m sure there are others who have not either.
They are beyond offensive, but since they’re out there people need to know what the Obama followers inspired by their leader are doing.
Let people get the full effect of their nastiness.
May be somebody from the Republican campaign should start describing Biden as an “Old Saggy Prick” who could be Palin’s father, and he knows it.
Biden:
Do his ba** hand low, do they wobble to and fro?
Do his ears hand low, do they wobble to and fro, can he tie them in a knot can he tie them in a bow — do his ears hand low? (Due to his advanced age and all).
Late night ramblings of a pissed off old broad.
If you recall Biden during the Anita Hill hearings, you recall what a piece of crap he really is.
“Women are like that”.
Agree uppity…Biden is an ASS…Never voted for Teddy either…COWARDS ALL…Morally Bankrupt
I can’t even get angry. I am just so sad about all of this. I am so dis-heartened by these images. I wonder what the hell has happened to this country and the people in it.
Obama needs to come out and publicly condem this hatred, and the horrible images, and the bombings, and the tee shirts, and on and on. Oh wait, that’s right, he doesn’t do those kinds of things. That would be too damn fair, and just, and kind.
I hope McCain really does “Whup” Obama’s ass.
I think the minute Hillary threw her hat in the ring, we ALL threw a feather in there, too.
That’s how it goes when someone of my own gender takes a step out.
Ditto for Obama, of course.
Ditto for Palin, now.
It’s just part of the deal. I think women were totally ready, win or lose, with Hillary.
I’m not so sure about the AA community to be honest.
But……I’m sure willing to be wrong.
Obama is an educator, you see. He is a trainer, you see.
It could be ‘educational psychology’?
Come off it! Don’t be so disingenuous or naive to think that Obama would endorse such behaviour, much less “teach” it! Have you read what ex-law-students of his have written about him? Among other positive things, they have said that he was not only intellectually brilliant as a professor, but was also exceptionally balanced and fair in his assessments. You know, just because you believe or say something doesn’t mean that it’s true. You need to have an argument, and back your claims up with evidence, and present and assess that evidence in an impartial way. You haven’t even stated to do that.
Alinsky school of agitation. It’s very simple. Make sure everyone is unhappy, how much better than are than everyone else and not getting what they deserve. Give me power and I will make everything better, but they don’t. Give me more power to make everything better and money too! But I need even more power. I coundn’t get anything done because I need more power. They radicalize everyone and never do anything for anyone but themselves. Look at Chicago and their pathetic schools. It is a con.
Thanks, that is what is going on.
As to looking for more power, that is a Republican strategy. That is exactly what we have seen from the likes of Bush and Cheney (especially Cheney). The tactic of making “sure everyone is unhappy” is also a Republican, Rovian strategy of fear. There is no evidence of this from Obama. You are merely asserting something which you would like to believe.
We are discussing the use of offensive language here and you are using the guilt by association defense. And if you want to associate with O, you are one of his supporters. This is how they identify themselves. Having identified with them, you might as well say “I approve of these T-shirts” and if you want to change the subject, you are still giving implicit approval, and you are part of the problem.
Which shirt do you want, the one that says “OD is a C*nt”? Maybe you’re a guy–how about “OD’s mother is a C*nt?” Would you be proud to be associated with any group that put out such a shirt?
That sort of comment is inflammatory and not worthy of debating. Please try to be rational.
Od, if Obambi is sooooo brilliant why is he hiding his school records, all of his school records? And anyone can find someone and have them say they were a student. Since you are so into proof where are the transcripts for these alledged students that show they attended a class of Obambi’s?
BREAKING NEWS!!!!
Kerry ahead of Bush Oct 22nd 2004
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Hey Seattle! Double digits ahead!
Kerry
Dukakis
Mondale
McGovern
Alllllllllll ahead!
It’s interesting that the MSM, DNC, and Dumbocratic elite don’t see the irony of the “hope and change” followers who use the most vile, reprehensible language and pictures.
But then, they get it from the boy who would be a man if he only new how.
*Just want to make clear that the Palin bikini picture up there is photoshopped (to anyone who still doesn’t know).
*Check out this site:
http://www.womenamericans.com/
*Also, it’s really sad and pathetic to see young women so clueless. They grew up on Girls Gone Wild and E!, what do you expect?
Wake Up young ladies, you are being mocked and don’t even know it.
kat. they didn’t fight for their rights and they think they will always be there. They don’t recognize what’s happening because they never experienced it before. It is their loss in the end. They will Get It when it affects them. And it will.
Kat…(sigh)..It’s not just young women…
I know a 73 year old woman who is an early Barky Cracker guilt voter…She sent me a photo of a similar Anti-Hillary shirt…
I sent her an e-mail and said every time this word is used a woman is beaten down by it…either literally or culturally and that she should be ashamed of herself. I asked how she would feel if she saw her mother’s, daughter’s,grand daughter’s or her own picture or name on that shirt…
That made her stop and think…
Women are in great denial of this issue…No where to put the anger and the fear…imho
Males exploit this division…
My five-year old daughter is a voracious reader now that she has learned to read…how the heck am I supposed to explain the “C-word” to her at this age? We don’t even have a television but she often is standing behind me when I use the computer and may see these t-shirts and slogans. Who would think in 2008 that as a woman I would have to explain MISOGYNY to my daughter during a presidential election! Right now she has her sights on becoming the Mayor of Houston, Texas (she starting small…..)someday–with this political climate of hate and seemingly going “backwards in time”–what is it going to be like when she’s old enough to vote in a mere 13 years?
These photos are obscene but having said that, they should be left alone and publicized widely. By taking the photos down, we would once again keep things “hush, hush” and the photos neeed to be “in your face” as a constant reminder that “words” do hurt and “words” do have meaning.
These Obama supporters who are just idiots would be the first ones to yell “FOUL” if they were personally attacked.
Double standards AGAIN!
They are all dependent little shits, you know, sucking down their parents’ retirement money. They are takers. Many of them are still living home at age 30. These are the same little ingrates that, after spending down everything their parents have, will vote to get rid of their own parents’ social security checks.
These are the people who cut class to caucus and intimidate old ladies and the disabled, while their parents, who are paying for their education, were at work and couldn’t caucus.
For those of you who have one of these on your hands, you know that they cannot even coordinate trash night, much less pick a president.
I have been reading studies about the current college crowd, and how 80 percent of them score high on the Narcissism test. Just like Obama.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And yes.
A friend of mine is a Recruiter and told me this bunch of 20-something losers have their mommiesw call in to check on their job application. Is mommy still wiping their butt for them too? What losers. Obama’s the perfect hero for this bunch of narcissistic, antisocial, helpless and dependent wusses.
uppity — I hope there’s a draft so these little punks can serve their country. Then perhaps they might have some respect for it.
Yeah, but Heaven help us if those nitwits are allowed to handle firearms, given the keys to tanks, and asked to defend our Nation. When that happens, it’s over.
They’re too stupid to comb their hair and brush their teeth in the morning.
Look at the people wearing the shirts closely. All they have is their claimed superiority. Someone should nominate them for Darwin Awards.
AMEN!!!The parnets should throw the little shits out and tell them to get a job.
Not surprising to anyone at this point, as offensive as they are.
When you can’t tell the difference in the level of discourse between BO’s supporters and the fact that Mr, Flynt choose to produce a “film” with a Palin “look alike” and that story is carried as news; to watch as I eat my morning meal is pathetic.
Yes Michelle, I really do have to agree with you. And it is the only thing we agree on.
Barak IS pathetic. And by the way Michelle, I know you don’t give a dam, because you are not on the news saying this is NOT acceptable. But now that I think of it, the nasty looks you gave Hillary during the conventions says it all.
I’m very glad I have a gun. They can take me right after I empty my clip and my dog has a snack. These people are despicable, just like their leader.
My hunting rifles are only safe when protected by my shotgun and pistol!
This bring me to saying it, about the Clintons. Most of Sen. Clinton, Why?, Why?, Why would she be stumping for Obama?
They think it is OK to do the same thing they did to Sen. Clintin to Gov. Sarah Palin since it work then for them. They just lost my relatives vote. I have a big family down where home is, and they can make noise.
For Sen. Clinton, she may lose more. They, my family members are furious at her.
For me personally, they are all politicians, they have questions to answer.
I am supporting McCain/Palin ticket.
I will not be supporting Obama, because I do not know the man, or the one: Sen. Barack Hussein Obama.
The Obama that I can not ask a question without being called a racist. The obama that will not release his health record and etc, the one that has not been loving this country and respecting our troop, and the one that the only thing that he knows how to change is his stands on issue to please, that Obama will not get my and my folks vote.
As Sen. Clinton once said, this is not a game, it is about America, I will not trust America to Obama.
My vote is part of that power, I will not be given him mine.
Interesting perspective. Hillary promised to campaign for the winner.
She’s delivering on her promise.
I think that’s honorable.
Not this time. And he didn’t win. He’s a thief. This is the exception that proves the rule. And if she and her husband want our respect they have to get out NOW.
Thief? Didn’t win? Explain yourself. You are not making sense.
The caucuses were rigged.
SOETERO/OBAMA/DUNHAM…IS THE SELECTEE NOT THE NOMINEE OF THE NEW DEMOFASCIST PARTY!
It doesn’t become you to pretend to be naive.
Yes, thief. ACORN. On 0bama’s payroll. Synonymous with intimidation tactics and voter fraud. Under investigation in 14 states now (And wouldn’t you know it? All the battleground states too! What a coincidence!).
It may not have been so glaringly obvious in the primaries as it is today (except of course, to Hillary supporters)- but what was absolutely true then is absolutely true now.
annin — so Obama cheats Hillary out of the nomination but its the honorable thing for her to support him?
I can accept that she made a mistake by saying that she would campaign for the winner. But then we must see it as that. She made a mistake by saying that she would campaign for the winner. Specially when she didn’t know all that much about the winner and what she knew about him did not amount to much either.
I’ll answer your WHY question with another question. Name me one Independent who ever became President.
The answer is None. You must be in one of the two major parties. Ostracization from your party is the end of your career growth.
Now you know why.
Yeah but the question isn’t why she belongs to a party but why she stumps for a corrupt candidate.
I was angry at Hillary for stumping for Obama. I swore I would not support her in her next run for the White House.
I believed women should defend other women when they come under attack. However, while I was typing this I had an epiphany.
I dislike Claire McCaskill so much that, not only don’t I mind someone calling her names I’ve got a few I’d like to call her myself.
That being said, I still don’t know how Hillary can do it even though she promised. If I were her I would secretly give information to the McCain camp!
SEN. CLINTON IS NOT THE ISSUE…SHEEESH!
Soetero/Obama/Dunham is the issue at hand…Every time we gripe about either Clinton we dilute focus…I mean I don’t care right now what she and Bill are doin…sheeesh!
Uppity — there are worse things than not being the Senator from NY. When the Democratic Party trashed Hillary she should have left it then. Actually Teddy Roosevelt did win as a member of the Bull Moose Party. If someone doesn’t stand for something they will fall for anything.
No, Vice-President Theodore Roosevelt was a Republican when he became President following McKinley’s assassination in 1901. He won a term of his own as a Republican in 1904. TR stood aside in 1908, but became so disgusted with his party that he joined the Progressive Party [nicknamed the "Bull Moose Party" after TR said he felt "as fit as a bull moose"] and ran as its presidential candidate in 1912–and lost to Democrat Woodrow Wilson.
Uppity’s comment stands.
“Uppity’s comment stands.”
No, it doesn’t, because it’s wrong. George Washington (who warned of the perils of political factions becoming prevalent in American politics for various reasons) was not a member of a political party.
The last I checked, he served two terms as president.
if obama wins, hillary will never be prez or VP, and the rest of have to put up with these little socialist thugs pushing us around for at least the next 4 years. i hope hillary knows that.
I saw Hillary on CNN and FOX this morning and I must admit, I now see her as a liar. I have tried very hard to stick with her and believe she knows what she is doing, but to watch her lying this morning makes her not much better than Obama in my eyes. Hillary, sorry, but you are done! Sell your soul to the devil for this democratic diarrhea (shit that’s running)was not worth it. I have always known that you know everything that Obama is and how dangerous he is for this great country and you do not put country first. I will not support Hillary any longer. Hillary, you had your shot and you are done. Don’t come crying to me after McCain/Palin’s landslide and expect my support in 2012. Anyone who sits silently to let this creep win or even come close does not care about America. I am glad I finally see Hillary for who she is. A selfish politician just like every other one. I can no longer stand the Clintons. This is the end.
I’m disappointed in Hillary even while believing I understand her actions…I think in part it’s because O has adopted her health plan (among other things).
This is pretty disgusting. I could not imagine wearing a shirt that says anything remotely like this about any human being. My wife is going to be physically sick when she sees this, and she is a lobbyist with considerable experience in the rough and tumble of campaigns/parties/activists.
But look at the ’seriousness’ with which this pro-Obama blog regards this sort of thing. At comment #27 the journalist host even joins in the fray. This sort of thing doesn’t seem good for people’s souls.
Marisa, the first commenter, is correct to note that she should not be holding her breath in anticipation of a denouncement from the Obama camp. I would expect a shout out would be more likely, as well as zero media coverage. After all, I believe that I read here at NQ that elimination and denigration of Palin was job one according to Tom Hayden and his friends in Chicago. They are seemingly quite afraid of what she might do to their takeover plans.
Hey - they got no other arguments or policies or issues to come with. What do you expect? They can’t even smear John and Sarah! So they just launch an ALL-OUT HATE CAMPAIGN!
Some Ecards are a piece of work.
State’s Evidence 1
State’s Evidence 2
I just cannot but cannot tolerate cruelty. I have to ask where these people think they get off behaving in this fashion. They’re a shame and disgrace to their families - who should have raised them better.
It’s not sexist, it’s, uh, ironic! Post-punk post-modern post-feminist!
http://www.cafepress.com/rhiannonisacunt
- from your URL:
“a girl who is totally over self-respect.”
What the photos demonstrate is that a certain percentage of young people–usually young males–are total jackasses, who enjoy vulgar attention-getting displays.
I resent the assertion that such people are in any way representative of Obama supporters in general. This is much the same as asserting that the small percentage of hateful bigots present in McCain/Palin crowds are representative of McCain/Palin supporters in general.
I have no use for any such people, no matter who they claim to support.
ming — this is what the Obama Campaign is all about. So don’t tell me most of his supporters are nice people. Thats like saying most Germans during Hitler’s reign of terror were nice people. Nice people say bye bye when their candidate stoops this low.
What on earth are you saying? Did Obama manufacture these T-shirts? Hardly. Would he use or endorse this word? No. (Bear in mind that McCain has used this word about his wife in the past!) What possible plausible grounds could you have for asserting that “this is what the Obama campaign is all about”? That is ludicrous! You should really be more careful.
That has never been proven.
Your TShirts, however, speak for themselves - and your Hopes.
But the T-shirts were not made by Obama.
Nor are they, as you slyly try to insinuate, “my” T-shirts. I am appalled by these disgraceful t-shirts, as anyone should be.
…hence us former Democrats for McCain/Palin…
I’m sure…
Yet this is you.
I agree, but unfortunately the media has made it their focus to call John McCain out for inciting racism and divisiveness for the actions of those few supporters.
0bama? Rather than take the high road, he and his partners in crime gave a wink and a smile and the media nodded their understanding like bobbleheads.
Don’t people get it? 0bama WANTS this to happen. He NEEDS this to happen. This sort of thing is all part of his strategy, using the Alisnky method - it’s textbook. One just needs to read along to know what he’s doing, what it will cause, and what the result will be.
Um……..actually…………I believe that’s what Obama Was saying about McCain/Palin supporters during the last debate…………….or did you not watch it????????????? And, come to find out, according to the Secret Service, it didn’t happen - no one at McCain/Palin events called Obama a ‘terrorist’ or yelled ‘kill him’ which is what Obama claimed.
Years ago, during a very heated argument with my wife, I learned the hard way what a powerful, derogatory word that slur is against women.
Looking at all of these photos, I get the impression that this latest, young generation of women who tolerate that word and actually revel in it without even getting remotely angry, must have very low self esteem or a sense of not having much personal worth, or no dignity.
The “C” word is just as bad as the “N” word. Where is the dignity in these young women? Are they that desensitized that now anything goes?
I’m guessing they’re really anxious to belong. They want the boys to like them.
ugsome–perhaps that is Hillary Clinton’s problem too. This need to belong to a party who trashed her and took away her nomination….
HIllary’s a professional, a team player, and a woman of her word. There is a world of difference between a self-loathing insecure young woman and a powerful politician with huge responsibilities.
I’m guessing this is a root cause of all women doing stupid things when there is a man in the picture.
Could that be caused by too much time with a cell phone against their ears?
Destroy all cell phones! Grrr! I hate them!
I wonder what people would say if McCain supporters started using the N word. I personally don’t see much difference between the C word against SP and the N word against BO.
That’s because you’re thick.
Oh, STFU and grumble in your warm beer about your lost empire.
Good one Ivory.
The lost empire and the newly implemented Sharia law!
I had enough.
we need to boycott all biased major media.
First Step: boycott CNN for this week’s debate.
Pass it along.
I’ve been boycotting them since the primary. I only watch Fox now. Fox was the only one that was halfway fair to Hillary.
My sister, a democrat too, jokes that Karl Rove is her new best friend.
I haven’t seen much of Karl lately. Is he secretly playing in the McCain attack squad? Boy, oh boy, I hope so!
I’ve heard 10/15 is target date for the real attacks. Please GOP, don’t let me down!
My opinion. I think this issue is one of many that are advancing a future state of affairs as they have been portrayed in movies and other media, such as video games, etc. When we looked at those movies we never imagined that they would materialized and under what context. But those works of fiction and art, in these times of reconstruction, have the capacity to interact with cosmological ethereal influences to materialize as holograms would have the capacity to recreate a message. I couldn’t be more realistically vague.
What Obama’s campaign demonstrates is its capacity to actually produce a product. From that one product many other new components, features and utilitarian objects (objectives) may be extracted and put to use.
These people are fucking disgusting!, did you all see the photoshoped picture someone left in the comments section of Flikr, they put a Vagina on Sarah Palin’s mouth!!!! What the hell is wrong with these people! If these are the type of people that support Obama…and if Obama steals the election, God Help us!, because Evil will have truly taken over the country.
How could they do this to woman who has children???!
I’m so angry I can hardly even type!
I bet they never tear themselves away from MySpaceFlickrFacebook et al on election day.
This is the level of the intelligence of the Obama’s supporters. Unbelievable. The Democrats and the MSM encouraged this behavior when they stooped to attack and use sexist terms against Hillary. I am so disappointed that Hillary does not speak out against this thuggery.
kavala — someone said the women who wear these t-shirts want to belong. Isn’t that what Hillary is doing by appearing in venues for Obama where people are wearing these offensive t-shirts? That is Hillary’s achilles heal–the need to belong.
Obamabot Pornography
I think that universities and colleges have failed.
I think that university and college professors are for the most part, failures.
I believe in a complete redrawing of most curriculum and programs across the entire country in order to produce a completely different result.
MCPH–Enough of your carping. Hillary’s “need to belong” is not psychological, it’s practical, as Uppity pointed out earlier in the thread. She has too much time and effort and money invested in the Democratic Party to quit it. Also, someone will be picking up the pieces once Obama fails, whether it’s after 2008 or after 2012.
Hillary does not need to get involved in this, for God sakes. Leave her alone. She may be a little codependent toward the Democrats party, but this is everyone’s battle. Geez, she is not our mother.
doctorate, please, Hillary is a member of the Obama campaign leadership face. She is a variable and it should not remain constant because she herself chose not to remain constant.
This is such a generalization! Are all Obama supporters like this? Clearly not. Just as not all McCain supporters are defined by the ugly racists we have seen at recent Palin rallies. No useful purpose at all is served by propagating pat and unfounded generalizations of this sort. Be more careful.
Like he says, OD, Words Matter.
Your team…
Your words…
Yes, words matter; that’s why I am urging people to be careful how they use them. I am appalled by these T-shirts. The words on them are not my words, as you try to insinuate. Nor are they Obama’s words. Nor are they my team’s words (btw, what on earth are you talking about: I don’t have a “team”? Nor are they Obama’s team’s words (he, after all, clearly does have a team, but not one which endorses these T-shirts.)
Unfounded? This is’nt recent. A LARGE number of his supporters started this with Hillary and have now transferred their psychotic hate to Palin.
Obama has done NOTHING in 18 months to rein in his obots but yet points an accusing finger at McCain for a couple of idiots who may even be obot plants. That’s rich!
WE.WILL.NOT.BE.SILENCED.
PUMA!!!!
Well, the MSM certainly didn’t hold back from jumping into the gutter on Palin, her family, their relationships, including the suggestion of a covered pregnancy for her daughter and possible incest by Dad, (fictionalized, natch). If it reaches such upper echelons as those, I think the support for this sort of trash could be said to be very widespread.
OD–That’s at least the second time you’ve told us to “be more careful”.
Why don’t you make us, big shot?
Oh please! Where are we? In the school playground? Grow up. If you are an adult, then you are supposed to have gotten past that sort of bully-posturing years ago. I am urging people to be more careful in how they think. Thinking clearly is difficult — we are all prone to fallacious reasoning patterns and biases. But we have very little chance of overcoming these if we resort to the sort of “Why don’t you make us, big shot?” posturing that you are employing. So yes, I urge us all — and I include myself — to be more careful in how we think.
Just an observation — but every guy wearing these C-word tee-shirts doesn’t look like someone my beautiful daughter would date.
Then need some personal grooming for sure. And on an attractiveness scale from 1-10 … low single digits.
Perhaps it’s the only way for these dweebs to get attention. .
On a scale from 1-10, all digits are single except 10. So saying “low single digits” doesn’t add anything to saying “low digits”.
Nonsense. The two phrases describe entirely different aspects of ObamaMania.
“Low digits” describes the knuckle dragging aspect of Team Obama’s post-feminist constituency.
“Low single digits” better describes their collective IQs.
Like He says, ‘Words matter.’
just like you have added little to our conversation!
I appear to be one of the few who have tried to add something useful to this conversation. Do you wish to surround yourself only with people who endorse you ideas, without any element of critical thinking?
The polling data. Gallup had Bush ahead by 6 points before election. It basically says that this election if far from over. The polls are no indication on what is going on. They are more of an estimate which assumes a lots of things. I am sure you already know this but this is updated with new numbers.
This is a must read.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/understanding_current_presiden.html
Regards,
Tamas.
The people in these pictures have no idea how to fight for anything. They just think it is the thing to do right now. There is no difference about what they are doing and what racists are doing. The only difference is that this is acceptable.
Here I go again, showing my naivete, but I don’t think I have ever heard anyone actually use this word, and I work in an area where you see some pretty tough types, and hear some language. For someone to actually produce a shirt with this printed on is amazing.
I heard it when I had to do interviews in a prison. I had only read it before.
Proof of Obama-ACORN connection here:
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7203
(His campaign has been denying it). Here is quote from the article in the journal “Social Policy” which has been largely scrubbed from the internet:
“Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he ever ran for office. Thus it was natural for many of us to be active volunteers in his first campaign for STate Senate and then his failed bid for U.S. Congress in 1996. By the time he ran for U.S. Senate, we were old friends.”
VIDEO PLEASE
Someone needs to put together a video with these images (and there are others) and include cable talking heads being misogynist and frames of print quotes from the misogynist print media. As many as can be found. I have no idea how to do that stuff, or I would do it. I would be happy to dig for this stuff on the web if someone can do it.
Not only is this disgusting and cruel and prejudiced (”sexist” doesn’t seem to have the same impact as “racist” so I think it is best to call it prejudice to make it clear) but this is the stuff that neutralizes the horror of rape and sexual abuse (which is so common in our society). It is parallel to the offensive words about blacks, back in the days when this country was filled with racial prejudice, that encouraged lynchings and violence. May I say something very UN-PC? If you measured the number of racial physical assaults in this country in the year 2007–people who were physically assaulted because of racial prejudice–with the amount of sexual assaults on women (this would include adult men molesting little girls), how do you think those numbers would stack up? Are sexual crimes the same as racial violence? In a sex crime, is the woman physically and psychologically tortured because she is a female and the attacker is trying to subjugate/oppress/overpower her? I would say so.
women need to start raising hell (and fighting back) about sex crimes. as long as women don’t care, nothing will change.
Those guys are anti-women because women have never given them the time of day! I mean LOOK AT THEM. Never been laid.
I signed up for Flickr and then sent them an email with that search link asking if this was acceptable in their terms of services. I hope all those things get deleted.
P.S. Please please don’t remove the pictures. I am referring Obama supporters to this page so that they can see what their peers are doing. (I just posted on TNR and included a link). It is important to show this stuff collected together so people understand it is not isolated incidents.
I confess. I’m having fun stirring up some Obama supporters.
Somehow my yahoo e-mail was added to a list called “Florida Women For Obama.”
At first I deleted their announcements.
But then I started getting cc’d on their email exchanges. Especially one woman named Mary who continually discusses Palin. This woman is obsessed.
Regurgitating her belief that a woman with 5 kids serving as VP would be guilty of child neglect.
So now I have all these email addresses, right? And for all they know I’m an Obama supporter, right? Heh-heh.
I forward the “Palin is a C-word” pic to them and in the subject line I write: Obama supporters — do you agree? And I just paste the pic.
Half of them went ballistic. Highly insulted — “How dare you send me this! Take me off this email list!” The other half — no response (guess they do agree).
But get this — Mary-the-Obssessed responds to the email with yet another diatribe about Palin as a mother (and cc’s it to all the others).
I’m just seeding a little dissent among woman in the Obama Camp.
Well done. I forwarded the photo to my mother. That was sufficient to flip her vote. This in a tight state, too.
Thanks for the 12:30am chuckle.
it’s like many of us have said; they really don’t care about the truth; all they want to do is cling to their orthodoxy that obama is the messiah.
Yep. Kinda like Hitler’s supporters at the beginning of nazi Germany. It was’nt until after the war when the liberating armies had to force them into the death camps and shove their stupid faces at the what they had helped inflict on other human beings by their complacency, blind devotion to their leader and yes PREJUDICE towards those who believed or thought differently.
There is one thing that we democrates do not understand. That is we need not lie for someone because he is a “democrat”. You know that funny line that we use to defend Obama, …. oh you know he meant to say…are you in his head.
Obama, the one that I cannot ask a hard question without being called a racist. When infact, if they know me they may have difficulties calling me racist. Do you see how strange it is? The worst part of all this is, those young women just have no idea how stupid they look saying things and posing on those pictures. When you as a woman call another woman a name, it will be comming back to you as fast as drop it, you lost that respect, from your own boyfriend or your girlfriend. Now before you start ranting I have sisters that are well educated that are free thinkers from them I learn a lot, when I thought I knew it all.
If you are supporting Obama, please give me some substance, please do not steal other people’s work and intellectual work. Your Obama has no original thought of his. Just give me one idea that is his, what do know about him? Please do not kid yourself.
Just because we are democrats does not mean that I will be supporting a candidate that has no clue, someone that has to constantly read a prpared statement to make a point. I do not follow very well I think for myself.
It is not a race thing, it is Obama. He is not qualified. Just because Sen. Hillary Clinton say so, I do not fellow blindly, she is not on the ticket. Do you get that?
He, Sen. Obama, has not answer any hard question, the media has not being able to ask that hard questions. They are afriad of being called racist.
Do not forget, I have a choice, and my vote is mine, and in the voting boot, I will be alone, and I will cast my vote, the media will not be there, none of you will be there, just me.
Remember that.
I have always loved this country I will always love her.
I have a mum, sisters, ladies friends and a wife, I love and respect them.
It is up to you the way you look at a woman, becuase she, a woman is from the other party, she is still a woman, a sister, a daughter, a friend, a mother, a wife to someone, and she is more than you could ever appreciate. If you could not understand that, you are fool.
Words matters
Is it too off topic to ask what kind of people raised these monsters who have grown up to be such losers? Wait until their future potential employers start googling around for background info before their next job interviews and these pics pop up. These folks have herein made choices in their lives that will determine everything else that matters going forward. If one of them ever does find a serious partner who is not into the whole hate thing, end of the rope there, too, when these pictures turn up.
Short-sighted, self-centered idiots, yet not at all atypical of what we’ve seen from Obamabot kool-aid drinkers.
that is a very good point. However, the fact that Obama thinks we should spread the wealth around and take from those of us who have made a conscious choice to make a positive conribution to society and work hard and give it to people like this is why they don’t care how they act. I guess they are just planning on walking around in a kool aid stupor collecting public welfare. You are right though. No self respecting company would hire anyone with the mindset to call a respectful and accomplished Governor a “cunt”. What a nasty, filthy word. I pray for the sake of anyone wearing such a shirt that they do not cross my path. It won’t be pretty.
I can not fathom how Hillary Clinton can stand there next to a man, and raise money for a man who represents Hate against women. I just don’t get it?, and as much as I wanted Hillary to win, I am kinda hurt by what she is doing. I don’t undestand how she can put a smile on her face and say good things about a man who is so VILE! Hillary is better than me, especially after all the nasty things he said and did to her throughout the primaries. Now he is letting others do his dirty work, by trying to smear Palin. This man is DISGUSTING and DANGEROUS, and should not be running for POTUS PERIOD! and HILLARY should not be standing there next to him, letting him pimp her out! HAVE SOME PRIDE HILLARY!…I would rather SPIT in his face, than stand next to him!
I agree. The admiration I once had for Hillary is slipping away.
I too must agree. As much as we have learned of BO through sites such as these, there is little reason why she would still endorse him aside from her loyalty to DNC, which is now unrecognizable by lifelong democrats like me. If she is willing to put party above country to secure her political ambitions, then, I really do not recognize her anymore either.
Nikki,
Although I am also disappointed that Hillary is helping Obama, I don’t believe she has any choice if she is to continue her career in the democratic party. I can’t blame her for that - she’s doing what she has to do, like it or not. I will support McCain/Palin this time (believe me, it’s getting easier every day), and hopefully the dems will put forth a better nominee in 2012 (hopefully Hillary).
Unfortunately, if Obama wins this time, I see a landslide republican victory in 2012, and I bet it will be a 12 year run, with 8 years for the pres and another 4 for the vp. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s either Romney, Palin, or Jindal. I think we’re better off to put up with 4 years of McCain/Palin (the better choice anyway) so we can get somebody good in 4 years. Let’s face it - whoever wins this year won’t get too much done with our sucky economy. Just my opinion.
It has disturbed me that the young women and men of this era have a view of sex that seems more closely related to Hustler magazine than it does to love, intimacy and commitment. I was in grade school for the Summer of Love and starting high school when suburbia was swapping spouses and sex and drugs were on the agenda at Studio 54. I’m not a prim and proper prude. But at the same time, sex just for sex leaves me empty - I want emotional intimacy with it.
Many of the young adults don’t appear to connect emotion and intimacy to sex. Sex is for pleasure, lust and exploring their fantasies. I can’t see anything wrong with that. But it does seem like they’re missing out on the most pleasurable and gratifying part of sex, love and intimacy. Young adults who do connect intimacy and love with sex, see two different types of sex. There’s porn for fun, intimacy with a mate - the two are unrelated.
They use sex in ways I don’t understand nor would I ever want to. It’s a joke, it’s a weapon, it’s a game and possibly at some point, part of an intimate relationship.
I think we read too much into their t-shirts and posters. They want to offend. They know it will offend their elders. Quite frankly, what is left for them to offend their elders with? We don’t cringe anymore at bodies covered with tattoos and little else, more piercings on their faces than Lil’ Abner has freckles and hair spiked in neon colors.
They may end up being the most crass generation the world has ever experienced. The good news is, they will grow up and become us sooner or later.
i hear you. i guess i’m getting old; i’m becoming a “values voter.” the obamacrat party does not share my values, that’s for sure.
These images are obviously repugnant. But they are not endorsed by Obama. Moreover, there has been equally ugly racist activity and comments, targeting Obama, at recent Palin rallies. So there is ugliness on both sides. Anyone with any sense should know how to sift real information from amid the ugly chaff on either side. Obama is black, and it ought to be needless to say that there is nothing wrong with that. Palin is a woman, and it ought to be equally needless to say that there is nothing wrong with that either. Clearly, Palin is not stupid; however, she has demonstrated that, clever as she may be *politically*, she is shockingly ignorant when it comes to the sorts of things that a prospective VP (or POTUS) ought to know. Obama, though arguably he has more experience — and certainly more knowledge and good judgment — than Palin, is relatively lacking in experience on the world stage. Maybe you disagree. But at least now we’re talking about substantive items that we can argue about and discuss. Sexism and racism have no place in discussions about who should be elected POTUS or VP. Drawing attention to these people wearing T-shirts is not useful. They are “fringe”, at most. BTW, in full disclosure: I am a supporter of Barack Obama.
At this juncture, most people here would agree that his lack of experience is not the ONLY highlight of the debate of whether he qualified to be POTUS. Attacking Palin for inexperience and comparing her to Obama is superfluous at best. She is not the one running for President. And please do not rebunk with “What if McCain does not make it full term?” Nobody knows, either way.
If you had done research yourself, you would realize that it is BO’s background that is shrouded with so much secrecy and uncertainty that is raising so many red flags here. His lifelong actions and connections make his loyalty to this country and its citizens questionable. It is easy to make all sorts of promises along the campaign trail. As we all know, what happens if a politician does not live up to his promises? Nothing.
So, before we put someone into a position of such absolute power, it is the duty of every voter to question the integrity of the candidates. As we peel the layers of this onion, we are more and more alarmed at what we discover. You may not care or want to care about BO’s lifelong actions and background, but we do.
the photos show what kind of supporters O are attracting! And it is scary!
Barack Obama is a pig and an enabler. He has allowed this to happen through his own behaviors and the behaviors of his surrogates.
Proof? How has he allowed this to happen?
Indeed. I agree with UK chap, who sounds eminently sensible. Proof? You are bandying around insults, and you are obviously angry. But what justifications do you have for being angry with Obama? How has he “allowed this to happen”? These T-shirts would appear to have nothing to do with him. Have you ever heard of the principle of presumed innocence?
Kiss my ass UK. When you start writing me checks, I will take orders from you.
Yes, post these photos everywhere so people know what kind of scum supports Barack Obama. Because only someone of that caliber would continue to support someone who thinks it is ok to show such disrespect for a woman by wearing a tshirt calling Sarah Palin a cunt. THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE?? You’re damn right it is. Maybe not to alot of sexist pigs it isn’t. No, they think it’s ok, lets move on and talk about something else.
Shockingly ignorant? What is SHOCKINGLY IGNORANT IS THAT OBAMA SPENT 20 YEARS IN A RACIST, AMERICAN HATING CHURCH AND ASSOCIATES WITH BILL AYERS WHO CLEARLY HATES THE UNITED STATES. How is that for talking about the issues? Sarah Palin has more experience and integrity than Obama has in his little pinky.
OD piss off.Check out Old Biden manhandling a 5 year old Piper Palin post debate .
Yeek.
One one hand he stands behind her creepily feeling up her shoulders. But I have yet to hear him defend them in public against the primal hate of democrat supporters.
I no longer give Hillary a thought.
How is anyone supposed to debate with someone who says “Piss off”? By saying that, you are just putting up a stop sign to any further rational debate or discourse. You are, in effect, simply rejecting being rational.
These pics are disgusting, I haven’t heard that word
for some 20yrs. This election is upside down & backwards. Truly ashame when ppl lower themselved to this level.
Corsi interview on MommaE radio
http://www.monksmedia.com/momma/10-13-08.mp3
I wonder what Donna Brazille thinks about this.
I’d love to see her confronted and forced into responding.
Please do not remove them. Such digital information is archived in some server farm somewhere, so there will always be evidence of the shameful acts that these people committed. They are so proud of this now, the Web shall forever bare-witness to their lack of decency. One fine day, they will have to answer to their constituents if they run for office, employers, colleagues, wives, and their daughters, on their vile behavior.
This is unbelievably crude, isn’t it? But there are jerks on both sides. Have you seen the video of the McCain parade in Manhattan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQalRPQ8stI
We Republicans are used to abuse. Bush has been called a lot worse. In 1994, the rise of a GOP Congress was attributed to “angry, white males”. White males, true. Angry? Did the surveys actually contain questions to gauge anger? No, of course not. This was projection on the part of the media that cannot understand why a sensible person would choose to vote for a Republican.
The first three pics are almost funny, coming from these guys, who you know, have never even seen one before.
Chuckle.
That explains the lipstick lovingly worn by several of the O’Bot males in yesterday’s earlier set of photographs.
i am not implying they are gay, I am implying they are cheeto eating basement dweller idiots, who have never been with a woman.
On the same note, don’t you think that it takes so much energy to keep up with all that hatred and vile feelings? As every reasonable person wake up and go about their daily adult responsible life, these people wake up every morning thinking of how much they hate a stranger who I am sure does not give a damn about what they think of her. Not only do they lack intelligence and foresight and have limited vocabulary (hence the limited way they can express their dissent), they are completely oblivious to those facts too! How pitiful!
I have sent these pictures to everyone I know who might vote for nobomba….Everyone ansered me and said NO WAY…I hope this dumb ass keeps giving us things like this to throw back at him.. I feel kinda bad that none of these little bastards will try to get in my face. I am sorry but I would not sit back and let anyone degrade women like that..Maybe I am not a nice person…..
Tina Fey help create this atmosphere. She holds responsibility to rectify it. I am watching Tina. Do the right thing.
I tried to find contact information for Fey, but was unsucessful. I went to the NOW website, and did not find one word written about this misogyny. Joe Scarbourgh tried to tackle it this AM, but Mika changed the subject back to racism.
I am utterly disgusted. On my lunch hour I am going to send an email to every female anchor on the MSM networks.
Not a lot of racial diversity in this wing of BO’s supporters. Looks like the privileged misogynist non-racialized boys club (still) to me.
Strange how sensitive Republican supporters have suddenly become. I thought you Conservative guys hated all that PeeCee stuff.
Mind your owm business and stay on your side of the pond.
The failure of the Bush administration is in large part to blame for the global economic meltdown. People I know in the UK and elsewhere have been affected by this. If the POTUS also holds the title of “leader of the free world”, then I think that it is fair to allow someone from the UK to have his or her say. Moreover, I think that we should all listen to such points of view.
You just have to wonder if these types would wear a shirt like this in front of their mother?
and UK Chap maybe you think this is
I think you’re confusing me with someone who actually cares. The racial slurs against Obama and the sexist mauling of Palin are indicative of how behind the times the USA in respect of gender and race. Hurry up Yanks, the rest of the world is leaving you behind.
I see, so of course how you express that lack of care is posting on NQ.
So believable, ROFLMAO!
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“the rest of the world is leaving you behind.”
Maybe we can’t move as quickly because we’re weighed down with the burden of defending you decadent characters on the other side of the Atlantic?
Yeah UK Chap. We’re way behind. We hear you UKers are WAYYYYYYYY ahead of us in Sharia Law too. We want to be just like you and move women 600 years to the past and set them on fire.
Bug off you jerk. Your moments on this board are numbered. Go find Tony Blair.
Where is Obama, Sharpton and Lewis? Complaining about the prejudice of sexism used by Obama supporters? When they don’t complain they endorse and encourage it. Juxtapose a black person into what these images are and they would sing a different tune or in this case scream bloody racism. Prejudice is prejudice. You don’t right one wrong by committing another wrong.
Ayers wanted to right the wrong of social injustice by bombing. His protege Obama wants to achieve his aims by divide and conquer using racism/race baiting, threats of race riots, sexism, misogyny, classism, elitism and homophobia.
Everyone concerned about prejudice should really think twice before voting for Obama. His use of race, gender, class and sexual orientation to divide us is despicable! Do people really believe his tactics will stop if he wins? They are farking idiots if they do. He will use the same tactics for his presidential agenda after getting a taste for how well they worked during the election.
Everyone concerned about prejudice should really think twice before voting for Obama. His use of race, gender, class and sexual orientation to divide us is despicable!
Can you provide some examples? Thanks.
President Barack [DELETED BY ADMIN] Obama
Sounds good, huh?!
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Good Lord! You do realize, do you not, that just by the very simple act of typing That One Whose Middle Name Must Not Be Named’s middle name you’ve forced the administrators of this site to report you to the secret service?
Please, be very very careful!
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
“The Great Backlash Elections of 2010 and 2012″
Sounds even better, huh?
Of course, that’s assuming Obummer even wins it this time; let’s not forget the “Bradley Effect”.
I assume you are trying to insinuate that it doesn’t sound good. Sounds fine to me. What on earth does someone’s name have to do with whether they can be POTUS?
Comment by OD | 2008-10-14 04:32:19
Come off it! Don’t be so disingenuous or naive to think that Obama would endorse such behaviour, much less “teach” it! Have you read what ex-law-students of his have written about him? Among other positive things, they have said that he was not only intellectually brilliant as a professor, but was also exceptionally balanced and fair in his assessments. You know, just because you believe or say something doesn’t mean that it’s true. You need to have an argument, and back your claims up with evidence, and present and assess that evidence in an impartial way. You haven’t even stated to do that.
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OD- And just because Obama and his supporters deny things doesn’t make them false. You all are good at accusing people of lying when it has been the Obama camp lying since the begining. And I too personally hold Obama accountable for his supporters attitude, because in his rallies he tells people get in their face. And because he believes McCain should be accountable for to roque people yelling inapropriate things about Obama (probably Obama supporters) because that is how the Obama campaign has been run. He knows the only way he may have a chance to win is cause anger, divide people, and cheat. He has never won an election honestly. But his nastiness and that of his supporters will back fire. Mark my words.
You can only push people so far and then when they’ve had enough, they fight back.
OD
I have not read what ex-law-students of Obama have written about him. I’m sure that if those testements exist they would be highly promoted by the Obama imps. Please tell us where they can be found. I’m highly skeptical.
No problem. As reported in the NY Times, and re-reported on HuffPo; see here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/coming-from-nyt-on-sunday_b_127508.html
Thankyou OD
I read the article and as I suspected it is nothing more than another poorly researched, sycophantic puff piece to glorify the exalted One. Your comment made it sound as though ex-students were coming out of the woodwork to praise the new savior. Only three students were mentioned, only two by name; Dan Johnson-Weinberg, and Richard Hess. DJW is actively campaigning for Obama so you can’t really consider anything he says as an objective assessment of Obama. A google search for Richard Hess supplied too many names to research, but his comments were on par with the type of recommendation one might get from the boss when changing jobs. What I would really like to see is a testement from a character witness that intimately knew, or knows Obama who isn’t in his campaign, isn’t an unrepentent terrorist, isn’t a corrupt politician, isn’t a communist, and isn’t a co-dependant to Obama’s pathological Narcissism. But that eliminates everyone he knows. The only assessment of Obama that could be useful is a full psychological work-up from an independent psychologist.
I doubt such a work up would garner encouraging (to you) results regarding McCain, given his temper, etc.! You seem to be intelligent, and of course your plea for more compelling evidence than I have provided is praiseworthy; I agree, I have not given you much to go on. But why do you feel the need to use these sorts of expressions in your post: “the exalted One”, “co-dependant [sic] to Obama’s pathological Narcissism”, etc.? These are the sorts of terms that tend to escalate polarization of views. They reveal deep bias. You do not even attempt to apply a neutral “point of view correction” to your own thought processes — at least on the evidence of your post. Even if you are biased, you would have more success in persuading those with whom you disagree if you tried to hide your bias (not that I recommend that strategy, for what I hope are obvious reasons).
One more thing OD,
Nowhere in the article can be found the terms “intellectually brilliant”, or “exceptionally balanced”. That’s your embellishment. What the hell, let’s add “transendent” and “omnipotent” to Obama’s resume.
Obama’s intellectual brilliance is self-evident from his record as a student and professor. As to his “exceptional balance”, Hess’s comment in the article that “it was drilled into us from Day 1 that you examined your biases and inclinations. And then, when you made decisions, they were based on sound empirical reasons” clearly implies such balanced judgment. You may not trust the source of that assessment (i.e., Hess). That’s fine. But your suggestion that we apply the properties of being “transendent” [sic] and “omnipotent” to Obama is just silly! Nothing is omnipotent. “Trancendent” doesn’t even have a clear meaning. Nothing I said would suggest that I think these are qualities of Obama. You may be good at rhetoric, but what you say is unreasonable.
In your first posting you stated that his ex-students described him as “intellectually brilliant” and “exceptionally balanced”. They did not use those words, so you are guilty of misrepresenting and distorting statements. If those were your interpretations of what the students said then you should have said so. But to state without reservation that the ex-students said those words is dishonest.
Regarding my bias. I make no secret of my complete and utter contempt for Obama, his minions, and his supporters. Dr. Sam Vaknin, one of the most highly respected experts on Narcissism, has stated his belief that Obama is a Narcissist. Obama’s supporters are co-dependents in the symbiotic relationship. He receives the worship he craves (Narcissistic supply), and his followers get to bask in the glow of his perfection. It’s a shared psychotic disorder. Far more serious than a simple character flaw like compulsively writing “[sic]” after typo’s and misspellings on a web site.
You took exception to my phrases “exalted One” and ” co-dependent to Obama’s pathological Narcissism”, and called them polarizing. I’m so sorry if I ruffled your delicate sensitivities, I’ll be careful not to call Gov. Palin a c**t.
Obama will never condemn his supporters no matter how horribly they behave. As strange as it may seem, Narcissists actually appreciate the bad behavior of thier followers, (get in their face) it is a stronger display of devotion.
Given enough time and fuel, Narcissists do believe themselves to be trancendent and omnipotent.
If you think I’m overstating the worship of Obama, I’ll list a few other descriptions of him, that are not mine.
1. “The One” Oprah.
2. “The Alpha and Omega” Students pledge to Obama.
3. “Tingles up my leg” Chris Mathews.
4. “Intellectually brilliant” You.
You would have to be deaf, dumb, and blind to not recognize the bizarre and meritless adoration of the phony man-child Obama.
One last thing, it is not self-evident that his record as a student and professor make him intellectually brilliant. Nobody seems to be able to find his student records, if you have them I’m sure you could get a substantial price for them.
I’ve replied below (down a few posts).
The only thing evident is the absence of a record.
Make my day, OverDose. Show me a publication, anything, even notes on a napkin, from Obama’s tenure as a lecturer.
Why are you all so angry? It seems so unproductive.
Brilliant, OverDose!
You replaced his typo with your misspelling.
Next time you decide to correct your betters, you had better recheck your diction in a dictionary.
transcendent.
BTW, your assertion that transcendent has no clear meaning is nonsense. In this context, it is as meaningful as a tritism like “Change We Can Believe In.”
But that’s the foundation of Obama’s campaign.
Empty promises, Empty rhetoric, and Empty Heads to Suck it Up.
Mr. Natural,
Empty heads to suck it up? How POLARIZING! Kidding. Your last line should be translated into latin and put on the new Fuehrer’s seal. Thanks for the insight and support.
Many detractors of Obama disparage him as being “socialist”, implying that he is too left-wing. Now, according to you, he is the Führer, implying that he is too right-wing. But you can’t have it both ways! Just ‘fess up now — you simply don’t like him; that’s all!
I used [sic] only when quoting others, as is common practice, in order not to repeat the mistake. You could have done similarly. I didn’t insult anyone, nor try to make anyone feel bad. I took no pleasure in anyone’s making a mistake. You seem to gloat. Why take pleasure in anyone’s making a mistake? It seems an odd and unfortunate way to get pleasure. In any case, I am sorry to disappoint you: I am not in the least upset at you!
“Transcendent” is supposed to mean something like “beyond or above the range of normal or merely physical human experience”, or “existing apart from and not subject to the limitations of the material universe”. But that is a concept something like that of a round square. We can say what a round square is supposed to be: it’s an equiangular, equilateral, rectilinear, quadrilateral closed plane figure every point on the periphery of which is equidistant from a single point within its periphery. So we can specify the content of the notion of a round square, but only insofar as to be able to see that it is incoherent, i.e., contradictory. After all, meaningfulness is a necessary condition of contradictoriness. Similarly, the notion of something not subject to the limitations of the physical universe (which is, of course, all that there is) is just incoherent.
I would be ashamed to be those girls mother. Nice education! I just wondering, if the mother of those girls, could be one of the ” hyppies” of sixties, for whom was acceptable to see in a subway,near her,people making love,doing their everyday necessities. Sad time,from when, America start to loose the precious value of respect and morals,taught by their parents.WE should not hide, behind the bushes. This young kids, should learn their lesson for our future generations sake. What kind of education their children will get? They should learn, that every action has a reaction. Everybody has to be responsible for their action. If “momy” won’t teach her little puppy how to bark, she will never know how to do it.
I hope these kids mothers see these pictures. This is horrific, that a young man or woman would feel proud to wear such a shirt.
Song sung for all Obama followers
http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/nextgenblog/
pornography = the sexually explicit subordination of women?
So ‘gay porn’ is an oxymoron, then?
What is troubling is internals of the recent polls. I think its impossible to polls in today’s atmosphere. You have a solid AA vote, an anti AA vote, an anti gender vote and the PUMA vote. The internals of these polls are showing a steady loss of the women’s vote in the the critical states of Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida. Why? The media is claiming its the economy an I might get myself in trouble here, but I guess you can disrespect them and call them any vile names you wish, they might not like it, but they are scared. That is very sad and we have to try and make them understand that McCain also feels their pain and he has a plan to turn the economy around. I trust him more than I do Obama.
This is just awful and the Obama people need to come out and denounce this today!
It’s just too contemptable to even bother denouncing.
When people wear around tee shirts like that they’ve already proclaimed that they’re mindless idiots and public embarassments. It would be a better use of time and energy to send sympathy cards to their parents.
obama’s uncle odinga web site http://www.raila07.com/index.html
look at bottom of first page– says “vote for change”
sound familar?
also under the vision tab at the top i found where he says odm “is the only agent for change and hope”
sound familiar?
http://www.raila07.com/vision.html
also he states that he offers a “radical government”
at least he is more honest about it than obama.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!
It is pretty self-evident that, in comparison to most people, including most politicians, someone’s being a professor of constitutional law is good evidence that he or she has some serious intellectual goods going on. And in comparison to Palin, in particular, but also McCain, Obama has a superior intellect. I think it is wise to choose as intelligent person as possible to be POTUS. That is not the only relevant criterion, certainly. But being a “good guy (or girl) to have a beer with” is not the relevant sort of criterion at all.
Look, let’s not be silly. Yes, I thought the expressions you used were needlessly polarizing. And don’t worry, you didn’t ruffle my sensitive feathers, or whatever you said! I also agree with your implied condemnation of anyone calling Palin a c**t; I would condemn anyone calling anyone else that, ever. I certainly condemn anyone calling Palin that.
As to my misrepresenting what the students said, I certainly didn’t mean to. I was, as you say, interpreting what they said, in the following respect: I was just trying to recall from memory what they said. As we all are, I am also subject to bias. The students did not use exactly the words I used to describe Obama. Perhaps I ought to have been clearer about that. I just didn’t think of it at the time, and I was responding to you in a (perhaps too) casual and informal way.
As regards the charge of Obama’s narcissism: I am not in a position to judge whether it is justified or not. It doesn’t look to me that he is narcissistic. But that doesn’t count for much, of course. Yet for every Vaknin you can find, there will always be apparently rational views on the other side, such as here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/17/opinion/17brooks.html?em
That makes quite the opposite case, doesn’t it? And it appears reasonable. My point is simply that it is all too easy to jump to conclusions about a candidate on the basis of select information. In a way, I take it that this is your point too. Perhaps the main difference between us is that you think I may be jumping too quickly to a positive conclusion, while I think that you may be jumping too quickly to a negative one.
I’ll make a deal with you! I’ll spend a day trying to find out all the information I can to convince myself that Obama is narcissistic and a bad choice for POTUS, if you agree to do the opposite and find out all you can to convince yourself that he’s a good choice.
What do you say!
(All above is in reply to Andrew191; I’d meant to insert my reply below his comment just a few posts above.)
Larry dear, you are freaking amazing. Thank you.
hmmm. informative.