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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/15/thread-2-post-debate-analyses/#comment-915801</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have stacked this with republicans.  What debate were you people watching?  McCain is sooooooooo out of touch with the little guy.  Sounds like you are a bunch of ignorant white people who are afraid to have a black president.  The republicans have destroyed our economy and our world reputation.  It is time for a big change, and not one where the V.P.&#039;s foreign policy experience is that she can see Russia from her house!  Wake up people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have stacked this with republicans.  What debate were you people watching?  McCain is sooooooooo out of touch with the little guy.  Sounds like you are a bunch of ignorant white people who are afraid to have a black president.  The republicans have destroyed our economy and our world reputation.  It is time for a big change, and not one where the V.P.&#8217;s foreign policy experience is that she can see Russia from her house!  Wake up people!</p>
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		<title>By: tommyo77</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/15/thread-2-post-debate-analyses/#comment-914934</link>
		<dc:creator>tommyo77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So do you believe a woman has the right to have an abortion untill the ninth month, till the last foot comes out of the uterus, till the umbilical cord is cut? If you are a Roe v. Wade-er or a main stream Dem/Lib they declare 3rd trimester abortions off limit or at least open to government intervention. Did a woman&#039;s body stop being her body by the 3rd trimester? 

Angry rehtoric and name calling is not going to help come to a workable public policy, I don&#039;t give a damn what your conviction is and you don&#039;t give a damn what my conviction is but, it&#039;s not about that, it&#039;s about living in a society together. You are angry, rude and disrepectful of others views and therefore should not even be allowed to have a seat at the table when it comes to public discourse on this topic (and probably many others).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So do you believe a woman has the right to have an abortion untill the ninth month, till the last foot comes out of the uterus, till the umbilical cord is cut? If you are a Roe v. Wade-er or a main stream Dem/Lib they declare 3rd trimester abortions off limit or at least open to government intervention. Did a woman&#8217;s body stop being her body by the 3rd trimester? </p>
<p>Angry rehtoric and name calling is not going to help come to a workable public policy, I don&#8217;t give a damn what your conviction is and you don&#8217;t give a damn what my conviction is but, it&#8217;s not about that, it&#8217;s about living in a society together. You are angry, rude and disrepectful of others views and therefore should not even be allowed to have a seat at the table when it comes to public discourse on this topic (and probably many others).</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Oakley</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/15/thread-2-post-debate-analyses/#comment-914865</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Oakley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one! And someone should ask Sen. G. why if he&#039;s so new his policies are so last century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one! And someone should ask Sen. G. why if he&#8217;s so new his policies are so last century.</p>
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		<title>By: tommyo77</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/15/thread-2-post-debate-analyses/#comment-914847</link>
		<dc:creator>tommyo77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucky Ducky, Nothing? Here&#039;s a few more:

7. I will fillibuster FISA
8. I will accept public financing
9. I will renegotiate NAFTA or unilaterally withdraw
10. I oppose off shore drilling, I support off shore drilling (take your pick)
11. I never heard Rev. Wright say those things.
12. I don&#039;t accept donations from lobbyists.
13. No lobbyists work for my campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucky Ducky, Nothing? Here&#8217;s a few more:</p>
<p>7. I will fillibuster FISA<br />
8. I will accept public financing<br />
9. I will renegotiate NAFTA or unilaterally withdraw<br />
10. I oppose off shore drilling, I support off shore drilling (take your pick)<br />
11. I never heard Rev. Wright say those things.<br />
12. I don&#8217;t accept donations from lobbyists.<br />
13. No lobbyists work for my campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Angie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/15/thread-2-post-debate-analyses/#comment-914696</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A manufactured crisis, exactly!

I actually had my boss agreeing with me yesterday that it was in fact something more than just the free market.

He is still an Obama supporter, but I feel as though I&#039;m working overtime trying to get him to see the light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A manufactured crisis, exactly!</p>
<p>I actually had my boss agreeing with me yesterday that it was in fact something more than just the free market.</p>
<p>He is still an Obama supporter, but I feel as though I&#8217;m working overtime trying to get him to see the light.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Oakley</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/15/thread-2-post-debate-analyses/#comment-914675</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Oakley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Well, if Dumbyuh was “qualified” to be president&lt;/em&gt;.... I think the media standard in that election was &quot;Who would you rather have a beer with?&quot; They have a lot of nerve to be trashing Gov. Palin after that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Well, if Dumbyuh was “qualified” to be president</em>&#8230;. I think the media standard in that election was &#8220;Who would you rather have a beer with?&#8221; They have a lot of nerve to be trashing Gov. Palin after that.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Oakley</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/15/thread-2-post-debate-analyses/#comment-914641</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Oakley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but don&#039;t wear your tin hat IN the bank...security and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but don&#8217;t wear your tin hat IN the bank&#8230;security and all.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Oakley</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/15/thread-2-post-debate-analyses/#comment-914621</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Oakley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sharia law thing is a jaw-dropper. I wonder what young liberal women would think if they knew Sen. G. is down with that in Kenya. You now, you think it can&#039;t happen here, but I saw an article that sharia law was being upheld in Texas in arbitrage... as long as the woman &quot;agrees.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sharia law thing is a jaw-dropper. I wonder what young liberal women would think if they knew Sen. G. is down with that in Kenya. You now, you think it can&#8217;t happen here, but I saw an article that sharia law was being upheld in Texas in arbitrage&#8230; as long as the woman &#8220;agrees.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Angie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/15/thread-2-post-debate-analyses/#comment-914593</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;kill him&quot; statement never happened. At least according the a northern PA newspaper. The Secret Service has yet to find one person to substantiate those claims.

I&#039;m new here, so forgive me if I&#039;m double posting information, but here&#039;s a link to the article I read this morning:

http://www.timesleader.com/news/breakingnews/Secret_Service_says_Kill_him_allegation_unfounded_.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;kill him&#8221; statement never happened. At least according the a northern PA newspaper. The Secret Service has yet to find one person to substantiate those claims.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m new here, so forgive me if I&#8217;m double posting information, but here&#8217;s a link to the article I read this morning:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesleader.com/news/breakingnews/Secret_Service_says_Kill_him_allegation_unfounded_.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesleader.com/news/breakingnews/Secret_Service_says_Kill_him_allegation_unfounded_.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Annie Oakley</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/15/thread-2-post-debate-analyses/#comment-914591</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Oakley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, and then he elaborated: “I guess the point I’m making,” he went on, “is that there is an entire industry now, an entire apparatus, designed to perpetuate this cultural schism, and it’s powerful.” It&#039;s all about him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, and then he elaborated: “I guess the point I’m making,” he went on, “is that there is an entire industry now, an entire apparatus, designed to perpetuate this cultural schism, and it’s powerful.” It&#8217;s all about him.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Oakley</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/15/thread-2-post-debate-analyses/#comment-914559</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Oakley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soon Senator Government will just be Sen. G., which has a nice ring to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soon Senator Government will just be Sen. G., which has a nice ring to it.</p>
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		<title>By: DancingOpossum</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/15/thread-2-post-debate-analyses/#comment-914551</link>
		<dc:creator>DancingOpossum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>W&lt;blockquote&gt;e are absolutely not going to continue this cultural war over abortion. Frankly, if any woman today cannot manage her own reproductive cycle, then we are talking about an rescue/enabling deal.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What unmitigated ignorance and hatred. The only way we end this &quot;cultural war over abortion&quot; is to decide, once and for all, that women are just as entitled as anyone else in our society to make their OWN decisions about their OWN bodies--period. 

Really, what is your problem with that? 

Do you believe women should have bodily autonomy or not? It&#039;s just that simple. And if your answer is &quot;no,&quot; as it clearly is, please explain why. Because they&#039;re stupid? Because they don&#039;t deserve it if they -- oh horrors! -- decide they don&#039;t want to spend their lives reproducing? 

(That said, the really ironic thing is that McCain is actually better on the issue of choice than Obama is.) 

Back in my marching-for-choice days, one of our slogans was: &quot;Any man who doesn&#039;t believe in abortion rights, can go f*** himself.&quot; 

The same is true for any woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>W<br />
<blockquote>e are absolutely not going to continue this cultural war over abortion. Frankly, if any woman today cannot manage her own reproductive cycle, then we are talking about an rescue/enabling deal.</p></blockquote>
<p>What unmitigated ignorance and hatred. The only way we end this &#8220;cultural war over abortion&#8221; is to decide, once and for all, that women are just as entitled as anyone else in our society to make their OWN decisions about their OWN bodies&#8211;period. </p>
<p>Really, what is your problem with that? </p>
<p>Do you believe women should have bodily autonomy or not? It&#8217;s just that simple. And if your answer is &#8220;no,&#8221; as it clearly is, please explain why. Because they&#8217;re stupid? Because they don&#8217;t deserve it if they &#8212; oh horrors! &#8212; decide they don&#8217;t want to spend their lives reproducing? </p>
<p>(That said, the really ironic thing is that McCain is actually better on the issue of choice than Obama is.) </p>
<p>Back in my marching-for-choice days, one of our slogans was: &#8220;Any man who doesn&#8217;t believe in abortion rights, can go f*** himself.&#8221; </p>
<p>The same is true for any woman.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Oakley</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/15/thread-2-post-debate-analyses/#comment-914490</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Oakley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! 

I&#039;ve been polled several times recently because of a close senate race. The first poller was a young, AA man, and he did the poll straight up, but it felt a little awkward telling him I wouldn&#039;t vote for Obama but I might vote for the senate Dem.

Next call was shorter. The interviewer was a young, AA woman. In short, I was asked if I&#039;d vote for the senate Dem and said probably not. Then I was asked if an Obama ad endorsing him would change my mind, and I said no. Next, would an ad by my current, long-term senator change my mind and I said that would be more persuasive. So she asked my straight up if I was saying the Senator&#039;s endorsement would help get my vote while Obama&#039;s would not. I said that was the case, and then the interviewer did something rather shocking. She said, &quot;umm, umm, umm&quot; in a low scolding sound as if to say &quot;My, my, my. And you wear a white hood, too?&quot;

To the point, I have no doubt that the pollsters themselves are introducing bias into responses. I had also thought that the Bradley effect was overstated, but when that polling group calls back, I don&#039;t intend to respond. Like the article said, they know who I am, but I don&#039;t know who they are. Admitting to not being for Obama has become something that shouldn&#039;t be discussed in polite social situation. I&#039;ve never been through an election where I don&#039;t know where most of my contacts stand because no one wants to risk being on the &quot;wrong&quot; side in mixed company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been polled several times recently because of a close senate race. The first poller was a young, AA man, and he did the poll straight up, but it felt a little awkward telling him I wouldn&#8217;t vote for Obama but I might vote for the senate Dem.</p>
<p>Next call was shorter. The interviewer was a young, AA woman. In short, I was asked if I&#8217;d vote for the senate Dem and said probably not. Then I was asked if an Obama ad endorsing him would change my mind, and I said no. Next, would an ad by my current, long-term senator change my mind and I said that would be more persuasive. So she asked my straight up if I was saying the Senator&#8217;s endorsement would help get my vote while Obama&#8217;s would not. I said that was the case, and then the interviewer did something rather shocking. She said, &#8220;umm, umm, umm&#8221; in a low scolding sound as if to say &#8220;My, my, my. And you wear a white hood, too?&#8221;</p>
<p>To the point, I have no doubt that the pollsters themselves are introducing bias into responses. I had also thought that the Bradley effect was overstated, but when that polling group calls back, I don&#8217;t intend to respond. Like the article said, they know who I am, but I don&#8217;t know who they are. Admitting to not being for Obama has become something that shouldn&#8217;t be discussed in polite social situation. I&#8217;ve never been through an election where I don&#8217;t know where most of my contacts stand because no one wants to risk being on the &#8220;wrong&#8221; side in mixed company.</p>
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		<title>By: AnninCA</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/15/thread-2-post-debate-analyses/#comment-914332</link>
		<dc:creator>AnninCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree this morning.  I was too cranky last night to listen to the debate.

My initial reaction was negative.

Today, I disagree with me.  *haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree this morning.  I was too cranky last night to listen to the debate.</p>
<p>My initial reaction was negative.</p>
<p>Today, I disagree with me.  *haha</p>
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		<title>By: tj</title>
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		<dc:creator>tj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was watching CNN and they had there viewer polls in. I found it interesting that they said for us to be aware that the number of democrats in the poll was 54% and the Republicans was around 42%.  There reason was that this represents the percent of democrats in the country verses the number of republicains.  Of course the  outcome we 58% BO and 31% Mccain.  I found this odd that they would actually tell us that they had set it heavy for the dems then make a really bad excuses as to why.  This tells me that the numbers are all done this way so we should just ignore all the polls!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was watching CNN and they had there viewer polls in. I found it interesting that they said for us to be aware that the number of democrats in the poll was 54% and the Republicans was around 42%.  There reason was that this represents the percent of democrats in the country verses the number of republicains.  Of course the  outcome we 58% BO and 31% Mccain.  I found this odd that they would actually tell us that they had set it heavy for the dems then make a really bad excuses as to why.  This tells me that the numbers are all done this way so we should just ignore all the polls!</p>
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