McCain Delivers Big In the Final Debate; Obama Not So Much
By Ani on October 16, 2008 at 8:45 PM in ACORN, Barack Obama, Bill Ayers, Debates, Hillary Clinton, John McCain
What I find hilarious, and most accurate, is our bloggers covering the debate predicted that even if Obama took a nap at the table last night, or pulled belly button lint out of his own navel, the networks would have given him a win on style points. The real story however, is altogether different. Take a look at the round-up and you tell me who won on the only measure that counts: Substance.
The New York Times’ Patrick Healy reported, “John McCain Was In A Groove Early.”
Denver Post’s Joanne Ostrow said, “It Wasn’t Obama’s Night.”
The Arizona Republic’s Dan Nowicki: “For McCain, It Clearly Was His Best Debate Performance …He Effortlessly Kept Obama Off-Balance.”
Even Marc Halperin of TIME, part of the all-Obama-all-the-time cadre admitted:
McCain has best debate yet in final face-off.
McCain: A-
Obama: B
If a koolaid sipper like Halperin gave Obama a B, you know Barack’s real grade had to be much lower.
The Weekly Standard’s Stephen Hayes:
“The winner, and in my view quite decisively, was John McCain. From the very first question, McCain seemed certain of himself and his answers.”
ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos had this to say:
“I think the fact that John McCain was able to make Joe [the plumber] Wurzelbacher a character in this campaign …this was his best debate so far. He was able to set the agenda on a lot of issues like taxes, especially with Joe Wurzelbacher.”
National Review’s Byron York:
“Who Won? There Seems Little Doubt That McCain Scored Many More Points Than Obama.”
New York Post said McCain had…:
“The best debate performance of his campaign last night. On issue after issue, McCain made his case, deftly countering Obama’s jabs. Why, he asked, does Obama ‘always say we have to spend more? Throwing money at every problem is not the answer.’”
Charles Hurt of the New York Post said:
“McCain last night made the strongest and most convincing argument yet that he is prepared to keep the federal government from making the current economic crisis even worse.”
USA Today noted that John McCain…
“[K]ept Obama on the defensive for much of the 90-minute forum, attacking him for everything from his association with ’60s radical Bill Ayers to his decision not to take public financing for his campaign.“
Ironically, it was none other than George Stephanopoulos of ABC who nipped at McCain’s heels for bringing up Obama’s ties to the unrepentant terrorist, Bill Ayers. I guess George S. had to redeem himself in the eyes of all the Obama stalwarts who flooded the station with complaints in April when Georgie rightly brought this up at the Clinton/Obama debate in April – gee Georgie …still doing penance??
Both The Politico’s Jonathan Martin and National Review’s Jim Geraghty noted how well McCain differentiated himself from the Bush administration:
“John McCain creates an instant headline with some of his firmest language yet to distance himself from President Bush. ‘Sen. Obama, I am not President Bush. If you wanted to run against President Bush you should have run four years ago. I will take this country in a new direction.’”
The Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza agrees:
“HUGE moment for McCain. Slams Obama for comparing him to Bush. VERY savvy. AND, he looked directly at Obama. …McCain with a break from Bush Administration — ‘disappointed’ with Paulson’s approach on financial crisis. …McCain has done well for himself… kept Obama on defense.
Yes, Obama was on defense most of the night. And as even Mr. Chris “I’ve got a tingle up my leg” Matthews has noted “If you’re explaining, you’re losing.”
Politico also noted that:
Perhaps the best news for McCain is the rating he received from independent voters. Among respondents not identified with either major political party, McCain was judged tonight’s winner, 51-42 percent.
I’d say that was mighty good news indeed since it is Independents who are going to decide this election, not the Democrats that are being consistently over-polled.
MSNBC’s Pat Buchanan shares his view on the debate as well. Whatever one may think of Buchanan’s politics, his observations have been spot on:
“I think [McCain] clearly won it on points. It was his best performance. He was intense and ideological and he’s appealing to the base, clearly. McCain much more aggressive and specific, and more compassionate on John Lewis, issues of ACORN and Ayer.”
Los Angeles Times:
“McCain again shows that he came into this debate more focused and more disciplined …”
As noted by Commentary’s John Podhoretz.
“McCain got in a good zinger when Obama mentions he wants Warren Buffett to pay more taxes and McCain says we’re talking about Joe the Plumber, not Warren Buffett.”
National Review’s Mark R. Levin:
“I am impressed with McCain tonight. Obama is off his game, as they say.”
Obama lost his trademark cool – he was actually sweating up there.
“McCain came ready tonight, he has Obama resorting to his stump speech answers and a bit unnerved…. And for the most part, he is not letting Obama get away with his endless dissembling.”
McCain made very clear last night there is a huge difference between talking and doing. The American people heard Senator Obama, in his typical dispassionate way, make a lot of vague promises, yet he has not delivered on any one of them. Contrast that with Senator McCain, who named specific instances where he has walked the walk. McCain said “he has stood up to the Bush administration and members of his own party on the floor of the Senate and “has the scars to prove it.” McCain further stated: “Senator Obama, your argument for standing up to the leaders of your party isn’t very convincing.”
No kidding. There were a few moments when McCain eyes bulged incredulously at some of the nonsense Senator Obama was spewing.
As I have said before, McCain will never sound like Shakespeare, but he used that to his advantage. He pointed out that Obama speaks eloquently, but that you really have to listen to what he’s saying – and follow the clues to the reality of his plans under the pretty words. A gentleman interviewed in a focus group after the debate also made telling comments in this regard. He said Obama sounded the most eloquent – but that he did not trust him. If you don’t trust him, you ain’t gonna vote for him. Period.
That summed up last night’s debate for me.
I am also heeding the advice of a fellow traveler, and taking a look at what each campaign is doing. I know many voiced irritation that our beloved Hillary was out there on the network after the debate, trumpeting how well Obama did. I look at that as good news:
Obama was humiliated by Clinton. He will never forgive her for showing him up in the debates as the empty, unprepared suit that he is and making it clear he limped to the finish line, needing cowardly super delegates to push him over the top. His campaign wanted to distance itself from Hillary in every way and prove he could win this without her, otherwise he would have pleaded with her, and her 18,000,000 voters, to be on his ticket.
The other morning on FOX and Friends, Hillary declared she’ll “bloom where she’s planted” in the Senate and last night, like a good Mommy, she gave the seal of approval to Obama’s debate performance. Hillary promised she would campaign her heart out to help the Dem nominee and no matter how angry that makes me, I have to respect a woman of her word – unlike Obama who never met a promise he wouldn’t or couldn’t break.
But here’s the news flash: Do you really think if Obama had this election sewn up, as the polls say, they would be trotting out Hillary to say the chance she’ll run again is “near zero” and vote for him ‘cause he’s really great? This is nonsense. Trust me, if McCain wins, she’ll be firing up the exploratory committee for 2012.
The Obama campaign has to be more than a little worried that the constant media drumbeat of b.s. for him is not really working. They know if even a portion of Hillary Dems don’t vote for him, he is toast. I know a number of these voters myself. They are not swayed. They were certainly not swayed by his lackluster performance last night. Come November 4th, these die hard Dems will absolutely be voting McCain/Palin.
And it sure sounded like Peter Canellos of The Boston Globe thought there were shades of the PA Clinton/Obama debate last night:
“John McCain last night put Barack Obama through a red-hot grilling, barely hiding his disdain for the Illinois senator and his outrage over Obama’s policies.”
Christian Broadcasting Network’s David Brody chimed in with this gem:
“John McCain Put A Dent In The Obama Persona. He was able to pokes some holes in Obama’s armor. He nicked him with Ayers, ACORN, public financing, negative advertising, abortion and yes, Joe the Plumber. Not only was McCain able to use the Joe the Plumber story as an example of class warfare, he also used Joe as a way to make the economy a personal story.”
Speaking of Joe the Plumber, perhaps the best recommendation that McCain can get came from the man himself, as reported by NBC 24 News:
[Joe's ] reaction to talking with Obama about his proposed tax plan: “I wasn’t impressed. In fact, it upset me. For someone to sit there and say you’ve done too good, and I’m going to penalize you now. In essence that’s what he said. I’m paraphrasing, but you done too good; I want some more of your money now. That’s wrong. That’s wrong across the board and I can’t imagine someone not agreeing with that. I can’t imagine America not agreeing with that,” Wurzelbacher.
…
Although it seems Wurzelbacher supports McCain, he refuses to say who he plans to vote for come November 4th.
But this MUST WATCH you tube video of Joe assessing the debate tells the story.
[Wurzelbacher’s] advice to other voters: “Do your own homework. Don’t sit there and take your friends’ advice. Don’t sit there and take TV’s advice. Do your own homework. Find out what you really want instead of what your union steward wants, what anyone wants. That’s my biggest thing right there. Do your own homework.”
Good advice indeed.
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McCain was great at the Smith dinner tonight. Really , really funny.
I’m sorry to miss McCain’s speech. I tuned in and got Obama droning and looking miserable. Damn it.
Usually Hannity repeats in a couple hours. It is well worth to tape to watch.
The shots at MSNBC and Keith and Chris were PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!
He told Keith to shove a banner up his…..ahem!
It’s on YouTube. There are two parts. Very very funny. Don’t miss it.
The way McCain went after the MSM and Acorn was spectacular.
Obama got blindsided big time!!!
ZOMG THIS THREAD IS FULL OF BOLD!
I know.McCain has put it all out there with a
bang!
His sharp and funny wit had me laughing so hard.
Looking at the crowd and their reaction…Vow ,he delievered a masterpiece.
I saw it, I didn’t know what to make of it at first. I thought wow McCain is FINALLY laying into Obama, but why is everyone laughing?!?!?
I didn’t know how these dinners went.
It was great to see, but awkward too.
I’m sure Obambi was pissed that he didn’t get his writers to hit McCain anywhere near as hard. Now he’ll spend the next couple of days out on the trail brushing his shoulders off!
Yeah, its a roast. I think they became famous in the 70’s, esp with Dean Martin and Sammy Davis Jr & the like. Pokes fun at everyone.
Personally, I thought Mc struck a little too close to home for O’blahblah. O was laughing, but, imho, he was pretty uncomfortable on the receiving end of Mc’s jabs.
Yes - Obama’s laugh looked forced - toward the end when Obama picks up the glass of water - DEAD GIVE AWAY - HE WAS PISSED!
McCain was spectacular. He really highlighted his good nature. Oblahblah was his usual thief. When praising McCain lifelong accomplishments he used the second person plural ‘us’ tagging himself to the praise he bestowed on McCain. I was floored. Yes, it looked like an innocent error and yes it looks like I am picky but I am looking strenuously to the day he doesn’t steal or lies about something.
Wow, I’m not the only one that noticed that “us” business. I thought I was imagining it. As if BHO’s life story of privilege equals Mac’s sacrifice for country.
Seriously, I don’t overdo praise, but McCain’s speech was FUNNY.
I couldn’t bear to watch uhbama, so I changed the channel (eh, heh)
McCain was absolutely brilliant at this dinner. He brought down the house!
Michelle Obama Tape…breaking
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78259
Wow!….just WoW! Thank you for posting.
I hope African Press International defends its credibility and reputation by making the tape public. The denials and confusion surrounding the phone call have caused API to look like a Mickey Mouse organization, when in fact, they really have their act together.
API really should clear things up by releasing the taped conversations.
This whole situation is terrible, “white racists” -incredible.
MG-PUMA
michelle obama tape…breaking news
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78259
Bill Maher on Larry King NOW!
Moments ago he said the ” claims agains ACORN are totally bogus”
sad he’s so informed…
ugh, I meant “misinformed” !
Bill voted for Ralph N. in 2000 because he couldn’t see a difference between Al Gore and W.
I’d say his judgment is about as good as O’s is.
Maher also voted for Dole in ‘96 because he believed military service should be honored above all other qualifications.
I hate Bill Maher…his new movie which totally lampoons religion, didn’t win him any points with me. I don’t care what he says…I wouldn’t believe it.
I’ll never forgive him for the way he talked about Hillary’s private parts, this guy is a sicko.
i used to like him now he reminds me of the drunk who doesn’t know anything but dirty jokes that aren’t funny.
Yea, didn’t he get fired? What’s up with that? Please tell me.
I just saw that as ewll. He said it proves everyone else is misinformed. I was hoping King would ask him where he got his information and would he be so kind to share this source with the American public
I just saw that as well. He said it proves everyone else is misinformed. I was hoping King would ask him where he got his information and would he be so kind to share this source with the American public
Bill Maher is a sad excuse for a human.
If you can link a video, it was well worth the watch!
All supporters should see Mac and Hillary!
Personally I skipped Obama. There is nothing funny to me about anything that man says.
I have it saved on DVR McCain’s part anyway, I can upload it if anyone needs, though I’m sure someone’s already on it.
post-debate polls showed Obama seen as “winning”, “more positive”, and “more likable”. McCain seen as somewhat opposite.
(the debate really sucked for anyone with a brain, but how many times do we need to hear about Ayers? that appears to be the only leg Mccain has left, even as the economy melts down all around us. it was also pathetic to refer to a man who has a business that will make 250K+ per year and who faces a less than 1K per year tax increase under Obama’s plan as some egregiously wronged “Joe the Plumber”. Such crap!!)
sad you never had civics in school (I guess), Obama used to belong to a socialist group and is pushing socialist values- plain and simple
“spread the wealth around”
uneducated vote for obama-
Yeah, but these people are probably the sort of goobers who look in the business end of a pair binoculars and wonder why everything looks so small.
Hi Ferd.
Well Ayers does matter as it goes to judgement. How many passes do you want this guy to have? Resko, bad judgement, Ayers, bad judgement, Wright, bad judgement, Acorn, bad judgement. My god, didn’t your parents teach you anything? If you have bad judgement this many times, what happens to the important things, like the economy. You can trust it to someone who has this bad of judgement. 40% of the population do not pay taxes. Period. So now you want to penalize those who work hard, 12 to 14 hours a day, 7 days a week if necessary to achieve the American dream just so that you can have it taken away and given to those who don’t want to do the things necessary to achieve the same things. In your world, then all kids should get the same grades, everyone should make the same money, no incentives to do your best. Such crap you write!!
It’s not just the judgement issue. It’s the honesty issue. Obama dissembles about everything. We DO NOT NEED THAT IN THE presidency. We already have that with George BUsh.
the press said the shrub was “someone they could have a beer with”.
That turned out really fuckin well, ay?
I challenge you to send 10 dollars out of your good heart for philanthropic reasons to the U.S. Treasury in the form of a check or money order. 10 dollars, or maybe if that’s too little send 100.
Ayers doesn’t matter? My friend, a man who couldn’t pass an FBI background check is running for President. Ask anyone in law enforcement if Ayers matters.
no, it is not crap. What is crap is Obama’s redistribution of wealth’.
Yes…
You little people need to stop being so selfish. Taking money you earned and giving it to someone who didn’t earn it is good for everyone. Duh.
Those rules don’t apply to me of course…my family is hurting. We need a bigger mansion, can’t pay for the daughters’ lessons. SHIT.
This country sucks. We need change.
Well, if the Obots thought it sucked then McCain must have won, huh?
just some fool, i’ll give you back what you put out and that is a big wad of nothing. put a sock in it. you aren’t very smart either.
Last night while watching the debate, I kept track of Oblockhead’s er, ahs, and ums. After 50 in the first 15 minutes, I gave up. If this is what the MSM thinks is a good speaker, they have rocks in their tiny little heads.
Eloquent dog shit is still dog shit. And I agree with you, he isn’t even eloquent! Without a heart words are hollow and hold no meaning and there is no eloquence. MLK’s words had a heart. He was Eloquent. The Precious is a sleazy conman in a cheap suit.
Yep, you can parade that jackass around all day as the Democratic nominee but at the end of the day, he’s still a jackass.
Ok, so I guess the actual polls of voters don’t really count in assessing who won? It’s funny, you guys rail against the media so often, but when it’s the punditocracy versus the voters, as it is on McCain’s performance, you’re perfectly willing to believe the pundits if they’re saying what you want to hear.
I really do wonder what you guys are going to do after Obama wins. Will you form a cottage industry of conspiracy theorists like the one that plagued the Clintons through eight years in the White House, or will you just melt back into the swamp?
For anyone who might have missed it, the point I am making here is that even though the pundits and reporters had these great things to say (as noted above) about McCain and wrote that he kicked Obama’s butt last night, these self same pundits still said Obama won the debate.
That it what is wrong with reporting today.
It is not about believe compliments — it is about the fact that even stating the obvious, they still come out with the wrong result for their headlines.
McCain clearly won the debate — but, listening to the networks last night, we heard the opposite.
We are going to form our own little country from half of America and we’re going to cling to our guns and our religion. We’re not going to let any bots anywhere near our families, our money or our homes. Barack is going to have to tax you double to make up for what we won’t give him and he won’t do anything because we’ll threaten to use our nukes (that we won’t really have, but he’ll just shit his pants when we fib about it and stay away.
We’ll call it CintonMcCainville, home of the bravest racist Americans!
Yes, our country will be called America and your will be the republic formerly known as the united states, or maybe simply the divided states of America.
how about if we all move to Alaska, help it become it’s own country? WooHoo!
funny…I was wondering what you obamabots are going to do after Mac gets into the Oval Office…collect unemployment from your chief or maybe go work for ACORN?
I know, I know…I shouldn’t stoop to feed the trolls, but sometimes they are so darned pathetic that I just can’t help myself!
Skid row street corner preaching.
“maybe go work for ACORN”. I thought they already did work for the mob (ACORN).
The actual polls will be the voters on Nov. 4.
We respect them.
I can’t believe the nation will go for the inexperienced “one.” And yeah, I was for Hillary and she had way less money and still beat your chosen one handily in Ohio and PA and Florida.
Go McCain ‘08. Down with the hateful (to Hillary and McCain) Obama media.
It doesn’t. A lot of people believe a lot of things that simply aren’t true. You’re a good example.
Of course we believe in “actual polls of voters”. Just not ones rigged so that Obama can’t possibly lose.
The story line from the MSM:
The headlines and comments prove one thing -
Obama won and McCain lost.
(drinks koolaide and passes out)
/end snark
McCain was definitely more aggressive, but he needed to avoid fringe issues like ACORN or Ayers (most Americans have no idea what the Weather Underground even was at this point, let alone who this aging hippie radical idiot was) and try to actually communicate a serious focus on the issues of the day. He made some jabs at that, but when he started talking about Ayers, he lost a lot of people who don’t know who Ayers was and don’t probably care.
Actually if you speak directly or listen attentatively to McCain, he says that Obama is not or has ever been a terrorist. Do you believe McCain?
That’s a very good criticism of Oblockhead supporters but not much else. They don’t care about history. Ayers was and still is a terrorist.
Most people know how to look up things that they hear about in a debate.
Ayers is NOT just some aging hippie, he is a DAMN DOMESTIC TERRORIST. Period.
All I can say is Remember New Hampshire
I personally thought Obama did better during the 2nd debate and McCain during this last one. McCain was wonderfully funny during his speech at the dinner tonight. Uhbama…not so much.
No matter who wins November 4th, we know who the better, more trustworthy and most honest man is. I believe that deep down inside, Uhbama’s supporters do too
sir, the word “socialist”, just like the word “conservative”, once had meaning. Long, long ago, words used in political debate had actual concrete meanings and not just whatever someone felt like making up or construing at some point. Obama is as much a socialist as he is a member of the John Birch Society. THere are no functioning socialists in national political office.
The same could be said of your fellow traveler’s use of the word racist against McCain supporters but you’re one of those who is selectively indignant. Ther are no functioning racists in mational political office, either. Too bad you won’t ponder that for a while.
John Birch Society…….no,
but, he was a member of the New Party in Chicago, and it’s be documented. The New Party was a socialist party.
Do you want documentation?
Here: http://web.archive.org/web/20010306020133/www.newparty.org/up9603.html
How about this: http://web.archive.org/web/20010306031216/www.newparty.org/up9610.html
Snarling Cur, love your screen name…what a hoot!
God, this all-bold thread is giving me a headache. I hope they fix it for the next thread.
Yeah! It’s gone…the bold print I mean! Thank you Admin!
So whats the Problem its another one of those organizations that wnts to heal the planet and push back the waters….why is that a bad thing for someone who questions barky?
I think you forgot about the Speaker of the House.
oh, wait, i forget. obama is an “arab”. (and a socialist, apparently, as well, and pals around with terrorists, and is a stealth muslim Manchurian candidate ready to destroy the US. Oh, and I forgot, as per post on this web site in the last two days, he is the anti-christ as well.is mccain relying entirely on the tin foil beanie set?
Hmm, aren’t you lost?
Nah–he was one of those who was left behind, so to speak.
just-some-guy
I have reviewed Sen Obama’s past voting record and legislation that he sponsored/co-sponsored.
I have reviewed his resume of accomplishments.
I have reviewed the job description for president of the USA.
I am NOT voting for Sen Obama for president of the USA.
He is NOT qualified nor can he GROW INTO the position. The office of President of the USA is NOT A TRAINING GROUND for anyone so they train and learn so they can move up to a more challenging position in the future. BTW -what’s left? World emperor?
The office of President of the USA is the highest elected office in the land.
Sen Obama is NOT qualified.
Can I make it any more clearer than this for you?
No matter who you plan to vote for…please take 10 minutes and read this article.
http://www.beyondchron.org/articles/The_Obama_Craze_Count_Me_Out_5413.html
Beyondchron.org, The Obama Craze: Count Me out ” by Matt Gonzalez 2/27/08
When the supporters of the other side get worried, they seem to come here. I read articles on this site daily and have noticed this for quite a while. When Palin was introduced to us, the messages here were record high and not from the regulars. Like Obama said…don’t get cocky!
Rumor has it they are very worried about internal polls:
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/david_rasbold/2008/oct/15/conversations-with-an-internal-pollster-for-o/
Greta is showing the dinner speech.
It was hilarious. Thank you for letting us know it was back on.
All well and good - but what really matters is how the voters perceive this.
Where? i can’t find it…do you have a link?
It’s on TV, Foxnews.
No madam. What really matters is how people are educated and raised from childhood into adulthood in order to move them from perception into a self-generated discovery of the truth.
Since the education system is provided and produced by the government itself, then people are raised to accept perception as the final arbiter of truth.
I have to admit. I am politacious. I am against Senator Government.
ROFL!
Missing closing strong tag on line 386.
Repaired. Thank you.
Mac’s dinner speech was hilarious!!
I sure wish Hillary was there as the Dem nominee & not just as a guest.
I am entering a closed B to see if the Bold stops
Now, the after test. If not. Well. Oh, well.
I thought McCain gave his best performance at last night’s debate. He was energized, pointed and focused and put Obama on the defensive.
But tonight at the Alfred E. Smith Charity Dinner, he was downright brilliant and funny as hell. This is a McCain I’ve not seen before. Good tone, amazing timing and also a sense of respect when speaking seriously about Barack Obama as a formidable candidate.
Good job, Senator McCain. You already have my vote but now you have my heart.
obama broke his promise to take public financing because his campaign is fueled by grassroots supporters donating a dollar or two. Or maybe not:
Barack Obama, widening his lead over John McCain, told donors at a New York $30,800 per-person fund-raising breakfast on Thursday not to get too cocky or giddy with the prospect of his winning the White House.
blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/10/obama_warns_backers_not_to_be.html
That fundraiser was earlier today. Tonight obama is at a concert where the donation was from $500 for the cheap seats to $28,000 for the well off grassroots supporters.
Wow. I don’t know where all this money comes from.
What can this mean?
Is it foreshadowing? Where’s the cockiness? He was certainly lashing out in that Mocks Joe Plumber video. Doesn’t look so famously “cool” today.
“Just words? Just speaches?” Give me a break. Words do have meaning and applying the term ’socialist’ to Senator Obama is accurate. Now you may be right in that it has less meaning today but it is only because many in our population has no clue as to what a true socialist is. If elected, they will soon find out.
Actually Oblockhead is an Obamaist. Socialism requires one to contribute according to his ability (which Oblockhead can’t do) and receive according to their need (which Oblockhead won’t do).
McCain was really really funny. Obama just BOMBED! No sense of humor.
McCain is brilliant. Right now, the Obama supporters are attack Joe the plummer. They are acting like nazis. The rest of america is going to see this and take offense. You can’t make this stuff up, by the time the election comes around, I would be suprised if “joe” is no longer living on this earth.
This is truely scare stuff going on here. I am frightened for my life.
Well, personally–I’m not that frightened yet, Touchet. But if I were Joe the Plumber and knew that the Daily Kos and Huffy Po had released my address and phone number online, I’d make sure my big, furry dogs were sleeping by the front door and my guns were lined up and loaded.
This sort of intimidation and violation of privacy is unacceptable.
And why is it going on? Because even the Obamatrons realize what a gaffe their Messiah made with the “spreading the wealth” comment. They want to shut Joe the Plumber down, the way they want to shut the rest of us down.
Good luck with that.
The wave is growing, rising and it’s huge. Do you sense it coming? I can almost hear it, taste it, touch it.
Keep the faith.
Peggy Sue,
I wonder if anyone has the addresses and phone numbers of the editors/publishers/writers at Huffington POst and Daily Kos.
I don’t know, athy. But I’m sure the info is available. Everything’s out there anymore.
I wouldn’t do it myself because I think the invasion of privacy is unspeakable and I really don’t believe in tit for tat.
On the other hand . . .
If it happened? I’d say, “Oh well. Karma is a true bitch!”
NO QUARTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tonight!
John McCain Rocks the House at the Alfred House Dinner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRSmQqw65Pg
John McCain killed it!
Obama–was ok, defintely not as funny!
***This video is not the full event…but it’s a taste!
This is simply TOO FUNNY! McCain was amazing.
Send this link on to everyone you know.
Kat in your hat-
Thanks very much for this link!
I laughed so hard that I was crying…I needed that!
Thank you so much for posting this - it was great!
I didn’t know about it and missed it on TV.
Parts 1 & 2 are now on You Tube.
Wow, the subtext is everything most of us would like to say. Hillary was really cracking up–worth seeing.
Ya, they had 15 minutes. I need the whole thing.
I was screaming laughing at McCain’s jokes!
Me, too. Especially Hillary and the MSM!
I love roasts!!
On Greta, the Weather Underground!
Doing some eductaion.
Hells ya!
forget socialist. He can just go by a name we call: Senator Government.
“spread the wealth” I do not want someone elses wealth. I want my own wealth that I earned and worked for. That is what most decent americans think to. I want a president for all americans. Not just the ones he deems important.
Obama can promise me the sky. I am a father,husband,middle class guy that will rise and fall on my own.
I do not need a Senator Government to tell ME what is wealthy in his view. I do not need HIM capping me or anyone elses success.
The problem with Obama is he lies and tries to act like Warren Buffet is the average tax payer. Oh well he can afford more. Well no shit Senator Government. However in America we have the kindest and most genuine of human beings who open their hearts and wallets to help without government pressure.
It amazes me that Obama is a multi-millionaire and gives less than 3 percent to charity. Over ten years Biden has given less than 1% and he qualifies as rich under their tax code.
If they want to help and other poeple to help. Instead of robbing poeple and taking their money for projects senator government deems fit and interest groups he likes most.
Why don’t those 2 arrogant asswod know-whats-best-for every american penny pinchers give money to charities more?
John McCain donates piles of money as well as his wife. The Clintons gave 10% of over a 100 million to charity.
Inspire americans to be involved. Not force them to pay for what Senator Government thinks is best even if half the country brutally disagrees with him.
OMG! The FBI agents signal got cut off suddenyl and he didn’t get to finish!
I guess he will come back tomorrow to do the Greta Weather Underground show.
It will be interesting to see if he gets “lost” again!
God I just watched on CNN Roland Martin and friends and I want to know when the media deemed it necessary to ridicule a private citizen? I know this man has to be embarrassed. How could Obama stand up there and do that to this man? They were LAUGHING at him! I freakn cant stand Roland. I never thought the democratic party would stoop so damn low.
I thought in this morning’s Good Morning America interview that Diane Sawyer was snickering a bit, too. I think she thought she had some “Fly-over” country yokel that she was going to expose for the hick she thought he was. SURPRISE! Joe bit back, but nicely, while she looked like a sniggering snob.
Go, Joe!
PS: Thanks for that link to the roast! What a treat.
That’s why they love Obama–they’re all so superior. Well, they won’t be laughing when all the Joe the Plumbers go to the polls on November 4th and tell them what they really think of their arrogance and ignorance.
The more the snicker, the more their fear is showing.
They have no card left to play.
They have embarrassed themselves and they are turning off voters.
****Breaking News****
ELECTION 2008
Will Michelle Obama tape ‘change political atmosphere in America’?
African news agency says she should ‘come clean’ on critical telephone call
read the rest: http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78259
So far there is an alleged interview and an alleged recording of it. Tread carefully, people could be duped and end up chasing their own tails for no reason. They need to release the recording and then it must be analyzed to make sure it is her, unless Michelle admits it herself. I read the API story and it is highly doubtful this late in the game she would say a lot of it. Makes no sense.
Meh. Short of pigs flying out of barky’s ass wearing lipstick, nothing claimed shocks me anymore…its just the corroborating evidence that is needed.
We left Reality back on Route 66 when they
stolecaucused the Nomination out from under Hillary.These people are playing a stupid game. They sound stupid. Are these middle school reporters on a story about a lunch room gossip? They are acting abnormally. I don’t think they have anything. Is an African Onion blog.
well, i think the excuse and it may be a valid one as to why their english sounds and reads like a 4th of 5th language is that according to them these are african writers who speak many dialects and languages and english is just one of many.
I just had to say it.
Now that’s funny!
That needs to be a t-shirt or coffee mug! I’d buy one!!
Did you notice that BO really hs no sense of humor or joy or natural, human expressions EXCEPT arrogance?
Except at the Alfred Smith Dinner where he laughed at McCain’s jokes…but oh yeah, I forgot, the jokes were about him!
O’Reilly said today that Joe the Plumber wasn’t registered to vote and made a big deal of it….like, you can’t have an opinion in the country if you’re not going to vote? At this point, not voting might be a protest statement, not a sign of a disinterested citizen….
he is registered. Joe is his middle name.
They know he voted in the republican primaries this year…chances are better than excellent that he is registered to vote…i bet he cast a ballot for huckabee during the primaries.
The M Smear M cant even smear consistantly.
This attack on Joe(me) is an attack on all of us. The guy is just a hard working guy trying to make it in this world.
Wow!! He owes 1200 bucks in taxes. How many of us have been there at one time.
As for registering..I’m still trying to get some people at work to register.
Just a regular Joe and attack on me personally.
The biggest mistake and the downfall of the elitist Obama campaign
1200? shit thats nothing.
I owed 7800 in taxes when i sold my house from just one year of assessment.
I was like Screw It i am not taking cash out of my pocket when i have the house listed to pay this ridiculous property tax rate…let em get it at the settlement table when we close.
and yes it turned into a lien against the property before we closed…so friggin what?
Its not like i signed the papers to buy my house in the living room of a terrorist.
This will, and should, backfire on Obama. Shame on him. Shame on his supporters for going after this guy for asking a simple question and expressing his opinion.
These are Democrats? What happened to freedom of speech.
This man said nothing insulting.
The messiah made a booboo and now someone else must pay for it? This, sadyl, is his typical arrogant behavior. Shameful. Nothing less.
We know more about Joe the plumber in 24 hours than we do about Obama is 21 months.
Crap, I remember a couple of years when I had to make monthly payments to the IRS to pay off my yearly tax.
O’Reilly started to turn after the interview. It was subtle, but I saw it. Once the stock market tanked… the change in tone was apparent. He is one of them now.
Another topic though. Here is another Internet archive article quoting Obama from August 1990. The last paragraph is telling. Mediocre?
http://web.archive.org/web/20030309210012/http://www.chicagoreporter.com/1990/07-90/0790+Sidebar+Top+Student.htm
Yes, you are correct. Obama was flirting with O’Reilly at that interview like a girl. I could not believe what I was witnessing. This man is running for President??
O’Reilly now officially on the koolaid sippers list.
The “right” of white people to be mediocre? That’s certainly a racist thing for him to say. I don’t remember getting a pass to be mediocre in a profession.
Nor do I. Mediocre? Sorry, it’s a dog eat dog world out there. I’ve never thought mediocre was going to cut it…sigh….maybe i should’ve hung out with terrorists and thugs and I’d have a different outlook on life.
Greta is gonna show McCain on Letterman that’s going to be on later tonight.
I thought he voted in the Republican primary. He has to be registered to have voted.
Greta also said Sarah Palin is scheduled to appear on Saturday Night Live but did not have the date yet.
She will be great. She’s a natural, and will laugh at herself.
Obama was humiliated by Clinton. He will never forgive her for showing him up in the debates as the empty, unprepared suit that he is and making it clear he limped to the finish line, needing cowardly super delegates to push him over the top. His campaign wanted to distance itself from Hillary in every way and prove he could win this without her, otherwise he would have pleaded with her, and her 18,000,000 voters, to be on his ticket.
Excellent point Ani. That clearly explains “why he didn’t pick her.” He is trying to prove he is his own man. Only he’s not. He would never be in this position without the help of the DNC leaders, MSM, and his many enablers. And even with all this support, he is still whining because “if it wasn’t for FOX news, he’d be 1 or 2 points higher in the polls.” Grow up.
I only saw a small bit of it on Frontline/PBS because I fell asleep.
But apparently a radio ad by Bill Clinton helped to push Bobbie Rush over Obama.
Which might explain their little lasting grudge against the Clintons.
The plot sickens….
here is a hit piece on joe the plumber because he dared to ask a tough question about obama’s tax plan
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27221645/
please e-mail msnbc and tell them politely how you feel about digging into a private citizens past to “kill the messenger” will not be tolerated. i am going to list several e-mail address the next few days and i am organizing a “call the advertisers of msnbc about boycotting their products”
please help me and post this elsewhere, even if it is in your own words and be polite when e-mailing so we don’t sound like nuts.
letters@msnbc.com
Obama is a serious pod person. He has NO redeeming qualities that really make you want to get to know him. Too many corrupt friends, too many lies, and too many shades of secrecy just make Obama so - ewwww!!!
McCain on the other hand, hell, yeah you’d show up for their backyard BBQ.
It’s kind of like deciding whether you should join the Deltas or that other sadistic fraternity in the movie Animal House. LOL
Nicely done, Ani….
McCain turned this back into a race, in my opinion. I just can sense it, not only with the polls but with the discussion.
Everyone is talking about Joe and his tax problem. *wink*
ACORN COVER UP: Barack Obama’s Political Family Tree Is Red
October 12, 2008 |
Why would Barack Obama lie about his association with ACORN? Let’s see….Once upon a time there was a group called the Communist Party of the United States (CPUSA), and they formed Students For A Democratic Society (SDS). CPUSA and SDS spawned the Weather Underground and The Arkansas Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). That group was later renamed The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN).
ACORN was conceived and devoted to the purpose of applying the Cloward-Piven strategy of collapsing the American system from within.
By crisis, we mean a publicly visible disruption in some institutional sphere. Crisis can occur spontaneously (e.g., riots) or as the intended result of tactics of demonstration and protest which either generate institutional disruption or bring unrecognized disruption to public attention.
No matter where the strategy is implemented, it shares the following features:
The offensive organizes previously unorganized groups eligible for government benefits but not currently receiving all they can.
The offensive seeks to identify new beneficiaries and/or create new benefits.
The overarching aim is always to impose new stresses on target systems, with the ultimate goal of forcing their collapse. [LINK]
That is all pretty interesting in light of the current ACORN scandals. It leads me to wonder if the pattern of fraud is by design. This is not the first election cycle that ACORN has had this exact same problem. The incentive to commit fraud is built into their compensation model, and they could change it if they wanted to. They choose not to. Are they trying to breed a loss of confidence in our election process? That sounds like an operation out of a CIA or KGB subversion playbook.
Barack not only worked for this CPUSA-SDS-Weather Underground front group, but directed millions of dollars to the entity while serving on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and the Woods Foundation with American terrorist William Ayres. Barack’s Campaign has paid ACORN nearly $800,000.00!
Either Barack supported this blatantly socialist/subversive movement for personal/ideological reasons, or he was and continues to be their patsy. Perhaps it is a little from column A and column B.
UPDATE:
F.B. Reader Wahine comments on old school CPUSA member Frank Marshall Davis:
Wahine on October 13, 2008 12:30 am
I didn’t follow the links, but I’m assuming those who read this know BO had a substitute father figure and mentor in Frank Marshall Davis. A Communist Party Member.
He was a close family friend during his 5th grade - highschool years in Hawaii. He was a black poet and I’m sure made quite an impression on the young Barry.
Davis left Chicago for Hawaii and at some point must have told him about the Weathermen and the radical groups who populate the Chicago area.
It’s my opinion it was either Ayers in NYC or Frank Davis who directed BO to Chicago after college.
I did know about this but had not decided the best way to incorporate the info. Your comment gives me the opportunity to share. The source for this information is contained in these two reports:
Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection (PDF)
Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection. (PDF)
And Obama admits to his relationship with Frank Marshall Davis
If there is one thing that is predictable, it’s the predictability of No Quarter.
First, it is entirely predictable that you would predict that the media would hand the debate win to Obama no matter what the outcome of the actual debate.
Then, it was entirely predictable that you would argue that McCain had a great debate and trounced Obama.
Finally, and most predictable of all, was that you’d be totally wrong.
First, the talking heads, after each of the first two debates talked about how McCain had bested Obama. Far from giving the debates to Obama no matter what, they did the opposite.
Naturally, the “fair and balanced” forces at No Quarter, claimed a huge win for McCain.
And just like in the other two debates, the only opinions that matter (the voters) registered an overwhelming victory for Obama.
As usual, McCain looked like a half insane angry old man totally lacking in self-control and barely able to contain his adolescent desire to get in what he was sure would be his next “zinger.”
Obama, who is never going to be ruffled by the likes of McCain, sat calmly through it all, smiling at the lies and delusions of Johnny Drama, and answered with complete sentences with a notable absence of talking points. Johnny with one tired, banal talking point after another failed to connect with actual voters, but he really got the No Quarter fringe excited.
Unfortunately, Johnny Drama is total outclassed and outmatched by Obama and once again looked like an adolescent fool.
As usual, the most entertaining thing about the debate was the post debate “analysis” by those intellectual and ideological soul mates Red State and No Quarter. “McCain Wins Bigger Than Anyone Has Ever Won Anything Before or Ever Will Win Anything in the Future.”
Not.
“The snap polls of reaction to the debate seem to agree: Barack Obama won again.
Fifty-eight percent of debate watchers said that Obama did the best job in the debate compared to 31 percent for John McCain, according to a CNN/Opinion Research poll. The debate caused favorable opinions of Obama to rise slightly from 63 percent at the start to 66 percent, while McCain’s slipped 51 percent to 49 percent.
Obama expressed his views more clearly than McCain in the opinion of viewers, who chose Obama by 66 percent to 25 percent. Obama came across as the stronger leader by 23 points and more likable by 48 points.”
Giggle.
Giggle, you and your movement are being flushed; goodbye.
Actually, at the moment, it looks suspiciously like my movement and I are about to win an election.
I loved it when he Mcacain was talking about former president Bill Clinton and why he can’t stump for Obama.We need to get to a Obama rally and yell we want Hillary chant over and over…the delegates elected you at the end. We want Hillary..that should get Obama fired up and us escorted out.Remember how he got here it was fixed.
I just saw the Alfred Smith diner video. Rick and roll, John. Rock and roll!
The Video that could cost Obama the election:
http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=68
Poll finds American reject redistribution of wealth as suggested by Barack Hussein Obama.
PRINCETON, NJ — When given a choice about how government should address the numerous economic difficulties facing today’s consumer, Americans overwhelmingly — by 84% to 13% — prefer that the government focus on improving overall economic conditions and the jobs situation in the United States as opposed to taking steps to distribute wealth more evenly among Americans.
Read: http://www.gallup.com/poll/108445/Americans-Oppose-Income-Redistribution-Fix-Economy.aspx
Americans Oppose Income Redistribution to Fix Economy
[Note: Elect John McCain for a free America and economic growth.]
O B A M A!