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	<title>Comments on: A Statement by a Retired FBI Agent Re William Ayers</title>
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		<title>By: Polly Wazerbek</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/19/a-statement-by-a-retired-fbi-agent-re-william-ayers/#comment-965339</link>
		<dc:creator>Polly Wazerbek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go fuck your communist-loving mother, asshole, and face the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go fuck your communist-loving mother, asshole, and face the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, but inaccurate. Ayers, the Unibomber of the 70s, was dangerous then because he bombed with explosives and people bled, some to death. Today he is still bombing but now with words, misrepresentation, and rich boy privilege. Too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, but inaccurate. Ayers, the Unibomber of the 70s, was dangerous then because he bombed with explosives and people bled, some to death. Today he is still bombing but now with words, misrepresentation, and rich boy privilege. Too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/19/a-statement-by-a-retired-fbi-agent-re-william-ayers/#comment-951208</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The "rule of law" demands that each of us - citizens and Presidential candidates alike - meet the same legal standards. I think Senator Obama would have a difficult time passing a standard, "Joe the Plumber" government background check which not surprisingly includes character and loyalty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;rule of law&#8221; demands that each of us - citizens and Presidential candidates alike - meet the same legal standards. I think Senator Obama would have a difficult time passing a standard, &#8220;Joe the Plumber&#8221; government background check which not surprisingly includes character and loyalty.</p>
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		<title>By: Marni</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/19/a-statement-by-a-retired-fbi-agent-re-william-ayers/#comment-945870</link>
		<dc:creator>Marni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is inconceivable that so many Americans, the liberal news media and also the Democratic Party itself can overlook these issues of Obama's character.  Surely these people are just uninformed! Scott Nelson's article should be blasted across this country. It is indeed relevant to the the election! Associations and actions are indicative of moral character and Obama has flunked the test! This man thinks he is above the laws of moral decency!  Explanations of past associations and truth are only what are convenient to him for his purpose at any particular time.  He successfully speaks around uncomfortable issues or totally avoids them!  He is not presidential material.  Wake up America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is inconceivable that so many Americans, the liberal news media and also the Democratic Party itself can overlook these issues of Obama&#8217;s character.  Surely these people are just uninformed! Scott Nelson&#8217;s article should be blasted across this country. It is indeed relevant to the the election! Associations and actions are indicative of moral character and Obama has flunked the test! This man thinks he is above the laws of moral decency!  Explanations of past associations and truth are only what are convenient to him for his purpose at any particular time.  He successfully speaks around uncomfortable issues or totally avoids them!  He is not presidential material.  Wake up America!</p>
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		<title>By: Melisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Send this information to, say, foxnews....they might look into it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Send this information to, say, foxnews&#8230;.they might look into it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zeke</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/19/a-statement-by-a-retired-fbi-agent-re-william-ayers/#comment-935956</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you just wasted fourteen paragraphs to tell us that you're a lying sack of communist supporting shit.
Please take this in the way it is intended...
Go
Fuck
Yourself</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you just wasted fourteen paragraphs to tell us that you&#8217;re a lying sack of communist supporting shit.<br />
Please take this in the way it is intended&#8230;<br />
Go<br />
Fuck<br />
Yourself</p>
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		<title>By: hootnannie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/19/a-statement-by-a-retired-fbi-agent-re-william-ayers/#comment-935873</link>
		<dc:creator>hootnannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If someone told you two years ago that the Democratic nominee would be someone who has associations with outspoken racists and terrorists, you wouldn't believe it.  Nor would it be credible that most of the MSM would viciously defend him.  The world has turned upside down.  But John McCain will right it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone told you two years ago that the Democratic nominee would be someone who has associations with outspoken racists and terrorists, you wouldn&#8217;t believe it.  Nor would it be credible that most of the MSM would viciously defend him.  The world has turned upside down.  But John McCain will right it.</p>
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		<title>By: Hope Floats! Flush Twice!</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/19/a-statement-by-a-retired-fbi-agent-re-william-ayers/#comment-935630</link>
		<dc:creator>Hope Floats! Flush Twice!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all know what the Obamas did as community organizers now, and it wasn't curing blindness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know what the Obamas did as community organizers now, and it wasn&#8217;t curing blindness.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie Spaugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie Spaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>athy -
Per the ARDC Lawyer Search, Barack Obama's status is "voluntarily inactive, last registered year 2008".  Michelle Obama's staus is listed as "voluntarily inactive, last registered year 1993".  But for Michelle under "Malpractice Insurance", it states, "No malpractice report required as attorney is on court ordered inactive status."  Does anyone know why she would be under "court ordered inactive status"?  
Here is the link: https://www.iardc.org/lawyersearch.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>athy -<br />
Per the ARDC Lawyer Search, Barack Obama&#8217;s status is &#8220;voluntarily inactive, last registered year 2008&#8243;.  Michelle Obama&#8217;s staus is listed as &#8220;voluntarily inactive, last registered year 1993&#8243;.  But for Michelle under &#8220;Malpractice Insurance&#8221;, it states, &#8220;No malpractice report required as attorney is on court ordered inactive status.&#8221;  Does anyone know why she would be under &#8220;court ordered inactive status&#8221;?<br />
Here is the link: <a href="https://www.iardc.org/lawyersearch.asp" rel="nofollow">https://www.iardc.org/lawyersearch.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Annie Oakley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie Oakley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, a law license is hard to get, so why give them up? For one thing, how much harder would Axelrove's job be selling two Chicago lawyers as opposed to two community organizers? These lawyers gave up law practice for something more profitable: politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, a law license is hard to get, so why give them up? For one thing, how much harder would Axelrove&#8217;s job be selling two Chicago lawyers as opposed to two community organizers? These lawyers gave up law practice for something more profitable: politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said sir, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said sir, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Betty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cannonfire has picture of Boris and Natasha in a post called "The ultimate guide to the Ayers controversy"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cannonfire has picture of Boris and Natasha in a post called &#8220;The ultimate guide to the Ayers controversy&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: churl</title>
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		<dc:creator>churl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's a helluva lot of smoke for one "small" terrorist fire. Very Oborgish, too. So he was "nothing to Obama" when Obama launched his political career in Asyers' living room? Hmmm. Does not compute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a helluva lot of smoke for one &#8220;small&#8221; terrorist fire. Very Oborgish, too. So he was &#8220;nothing to Obama&#8221; when Obama launched his political career in Asyers&#8217; living room? Hmmm. Does not compute.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bullshit

I knew who they were.  I was in NY at the same time Obama was.  He was in the hot bed of the NEWs in the 1980's.

I was in High School and I knew who they were and what they were.  If a Poli-Sci major at Columbia didn't have a clue when all the crap was in the paper then he is an imbecile.

Obama knew and approved until it became politically useful to throw Ayers under the bus, like his grandmother, like his reverend.

Ayers teaches English and a healthy dose of Anarchy--look at the readings for his class.

THe fact that he had a rich daddy is the only reason that creep breathes free air.

He is a criminal, who benefits from our nation and tries to undermine it in the same breath.

THe fact that anyone associates with that man is a sign that we have lost our standards as a people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bullshit</p>
<p>I knew who they were.  I was in NY at the same time Obama was.  He was in the hot bed of the NEWs in the 1980&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I was in High School and I knew who they were and what they were.  If a Poli-Sci major at Columbia didn&#8217;t have a clue when all the crap was in the paper then he is an imbecile.</p>
<p>Obama knew and approved until it became politically useful to throw Ayers under the bus, like his grandmother, like his reverend.</p>
<p>Ayers teaches English and a healthy dose of Anarchy&#8211;look at the readings for his class.</p>
<p>THe fact that he had a rich daddy is the only reason that creep breathes free air.</p>
<p>He is a criminal, who benefits from our nation and tries to undermine it in the same breath.</p>
<p>THe fact that anyone associates with that man is a sign that we have lost our standards as a people.</p>
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		<title>By: workingclass artist</title>
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		<dc:creator>workingclass artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.examiner.com/x-268-Right-Side-Politics-Examiner~y2008m10d12-Wheres-Obamas-proof-of-citizenship
Maybe the press will finally pick up on this...sheeesh!</description>
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Maybe the press will finally pick up on this&#8230;sheeesh!</p>
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		<title>By: Betty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ayers now teaches college where he continues to pollute young, impressionable minds with his personal brand of radical, destructive rhetoric.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  This is so offensive and should be to all Americans

If Ayres had taken the punishment for his actions  then returned to society still believing what he did was honorable, he could stand like a man and discuss his ideas.   But no, Ayres never suffered the consequence of his actions and instigation's.  And aside from a few months in jail, neither did Dohrn for hers. 

Yet he is allowed to profess his outdated, failed  ideas in a University setting.  

And they are outdated and failed, just look at the outcome of the one above board chance Ayers had the CAC.  With the CAC Ayers had all the money and support he needed to implement his goofie ideas and they failed miserably and the school children of Chicago lost out, though not as badly as his young college friends lost when they were subjects of his social experimentation.  

Yet Ayers is allowed to romanticize urban gorilla warfare and lead more young people into dangers he knows nothing about.  Remember Boris and Natasha on Bullwinkle?  How they always took a powder when things got tuff?  What did they say as they left others to suffer their consequences - We are too important?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ayers now teaches college where he continues to pollute young, impressionable minds with his personal brand of radical, destructive rhetoric.</p></blockquote>
<p>  This is so offensive and should be to all Americans</p>
<p>If Ayres had taken the punishment for his actions  then returned to society still believing what he did was honorable, he could stand like a man and discuss his ideas.   But no, Ayres never suffered the consequence of his actions and instigation&#8217;s.  And aside from a few months in jail, neither did Dohrn for hers. </p>
<p>Yet he is allowed to profess his outdated, failed  ideas in a University setting.  </p>
<p>And they are outdated and failed, just look at the outcome of the one above board chance Ayers had the CAC.  With the CAC Ayers had all the money and support he needed to implement his goofie ideas and they failed miserably and the school children of Chicago lost out, though not as badly as his young college friends lost when they were subjects of his social experimentation.  </p>
<p>Yet Ayers is allowed to romanticize urban gorilla warfare and lead more young people into dangers he knows nothing about.  Remember Boris and Natasha on Bullwinkle?  How they always took a powder when things got tuff?  What did they say as they left others to suffer their consequences - We are too important?</p>
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		<title>By: James (San Jose)</title>
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		<dc:creator>James (San Jose)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Ayers is a professor of education.  His courses do not cover politics in any way shape or form.

2. The "technicality" spoken of was prosecutorial misconduct. Specifically it was COINTELPRO that was the nub of the problem. 

"In the Final Report of the Select Committee COINTELPRO was castigated in no uncertain terms:

    "Many of the techniques used would be intolerable in a democratic society even if all of the targets had been involved in violent activity, but COINTELPRO went far beyond that...the Bureau conducted a sophisticated vigilante operation aimed squarely at preventing the exercise of First Amendment rights of speech and association, on the theory that preventing the growth of dangerous groups and the propagation of dangerous ideas would protect the national security and deter violence." 

The "technicality" happens to be the 1st and 4th amendments.  The "technicality" happens to be that the F.B.I. itself grossly violated the law when it investigated the Weather Underground and other radical left organizations. Leave it to a former F.B.I guy to leave out his organization's own bad faith in the investigation of Bill Ayers and how it let an admitted criminal walk.

3. Other than the actual method of violence, bombing, there is no link either ideologically or historically of Timothy McVeigh to Ayers.  The bombings Ayers participated in caused property damage and were small devices.  The Pentagon bomb was two pounds.  McViegh, on the other hand, used a entire delivery truck as bombing platform.  McViegh was an outsider, a fringe associate of a fringe movement.  He peripherally traveled in far-right wing Christian Identity groups. His main influence was "The Turner Dairies." It is unlikely he had even a passing knowledge of SDS never mind the militant Weathermen that Ayers formed. The link between OBL and Ayers is even more ridiculous.  The only thing OBL shares with Ayers is that members of their respective organizations accidentally blew themselves up.

4. The group that Ayers and Obama were a part of was the Annenberg Challenge. It was a group dedicated to improving the education of children in Chicago's under performing schools. It had nothing to do with radical politics, bomb throwing, or overthrowing the government. It was funded by a Rock-ribbed Republican Mr. Annenberg former ambassador to the UK under Richard Nixon. Ayers help to write the grant proposal with two other people. If one bothers to actually look at the actual composition of the Annenberg Challenge and how it operated for its five years any notions of subversion would be quickly erased. Annenberg was a straight-down-the-middle (if left of center) school reform program. No foaming-at-the-mouth radicals of any stripe allowed.

5. It would be impossible for Barack Obama to object to Mr Ayers 2001 comment of being unrepentant back in 1997 when he penned a few nice blurbs about Ayers book.  More to the point the book itself may have had actual value. Nixon wrote numerous books, some which were highly praised, after his disgraceful exit from politics.  Nixon was also never convicted of any crime, just like Aryes.  

6.  While the Weather Underground was formed by Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn they were not part of the group that caused either death or injury.  The death of Police Officer Brian V. McDonnell was never solved. Both the Weathermen and the Black Panthers were investigated but nothing came of it.  After the Greenwich Village explosion the Weather Underground killed no one.  Some members of WU were convicted for crimes they participated in as members of the Black Liberation Army but this was long after the WU as a movement was dissolved. That particular crime, the robbing of a Brinks Truck, occurred a year after Ayers and Dohrn ended their underground existence.

7. Obama did condemn, denounce, and otherwise tut-tut Ayers when it became a matter of national concern.  As a matter of local concern, there was none.  Chicago had long ago moved beyond Ayers past.  In Chicago Ayers was a respected voice in the field of Educational reform.  Obama was not the only person who gave him such deference, so too did captains of industry and a veritable who's who of Chicago's civic society some of them very main-line Republicans. Many other Chicagoans served on that board. None of them had any problems with Bill Ayers. Either you must believe the entire civic and political establishment of Chicago plus the Annenberg were culpable of bad judgment or maybe just accept that Bill Ayers had something valuable to contribute to the reform of urban schools in Chicago.

8. The relationship between Ayers and Obama has been fully vetted as any relationship in politics will ever be  (sort of like the relationship between John McCain and Charles Keating or John McCain and the sexy blond telecoms lobbyist.) Besides even if Obama gave you every last detail, you would still accuse him of holding back.  Ayers is not really the issue. Obama could come out tomorrow and literally kick Ayers down a flight of stairs and  no one at N.Q. would be impressed. 

9. While Scott Nelson is entitled to his opinions and his long service to nation is much appreciated, his arguments fail to impress.  It is the same old N.Q. / right wing nonsense, the same old guilt by association that McCain and the Republicans have been bandying about for months now.  It is the same old talking points, the same over the top conflation that does not hold water.  Obama is not Aryes.  Obama's association with Ayers only proves a mutual interest in improving the Chicago school system.  It the same old tiered lies repeated over, and over, and over again.  Obama's first fund drive was held in a Holiday Inn not Aryes house.  Obama's relationship with Aryes was tangential at best. By the time Obama met Ayers William Ayers was a respected community leader in the field of education.  

10. William Ayers is still a respected teacher, leader and role model for many students of Education.  He energizes people to become great educators.  His classes are sought out by students and he has mentored many great educators. The city of Chicago awarded him Citizen of the Year in 1997, they did this despite his radical past.  No one at the University of Illinois, Chicago has a problem with Bill Aryes, activist, professor, educator. He is a Senior Scholar and a Distinguished Professor and like every other good professor in the Publish or Perish world of Academia he has written many books on his chosen subject. That is the man Barack Obama knew in Chicago.  The other William Aryes, the fugitive radical, he turned himself into the authorities in 1980. Thanks to F.B.I mis and malfeasance he never was held accountable for his actions. 

That William Ayers was nobody and nothing to Obama.  He was a footnote at best in a History book that Obama read perhaps in High School.  For Obama weathermen were the guys on T.V. telling you if it was going to rain on the weekend. Barack Obama was just getting into college when William Ayers finally became legit.  By the time Ayers had his overprice cup of coffee with Obama in 1995 the former fugitive from justice had been a law abiding citizen for over 15 years. By the time Obama ran for president Ayers had been a model citizen for more than a generation. To steal from Douglas Addams, the Bill Ayers Obama knew was "mostly harmless."  While Scott Nelson may disagree with that conclusion, it is an accurate assessment of Professor William Ayers today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Ayers is a professor of education.  His courses do not cover politics in any way shape or form.</p>
<p>2. The &#8220;technicality&#8221; spoken of was prosecutorial misconduct. Specifically it was COINTELPRO that was the nub of the problem. </p>
<p>&#8220;In the Final Report of the Select Committee COINTELPRO was castigated in no uncertain terms:</p>
<p>    &#8220;Many of the techniques used would be intolerable in a democratic society even if all of the targets had been involved in violent activity, but COINTELPRO went far beyond that&#8230;the Bureau conducted a sophisticated vigilante operation aimed squarely at preventing the exercise of First Amendment rights of speech and association, on the theory that preventing the growth of dangerous groups and the propagation of dangerous ideas would protect the national security and deter violence.&#8221; </p>
<p>The &#8220;technicality&#8221; happens to be the 1st and 4th amendments.  The &#8220;technicality&#8221; happens to be that the F.B.I. itself grossly violated the law when it investigated the Weather Underground and other radical left organizations. Leave it to a former F.B.I guy to leave out his organization&#8217;s own bad faith in the investigation of Bill Ayers and how it let an admitted criminal walk.</p>
<p>3. Other than the actual method of violence, bombing, there is no link either ideologically or historically of Timothy McVeigh to Ayers.  The bombings Ayers participated in caused property damage and were small devices.  The Pentagon bomb was two pounds.  McViegh, on the other hand, used a entire delivery truck as bombing platform.  McViegh was an outsider, a fringe associate of a fringe movement.  He peripherally traveled in far-right wing Christian Identity groups. His main influence was &#8220;The Turner Dairies.&#8221; It is unlikely he had even a passing knowledge of SDS never mind the militant Weathermen that Ayers formed. The link between OBL and Ayers is even more ridiculous.  The only thing OBL shares with Ayers is that members of their respective organizations accidentally blew themselves up.</p>
<p>4. The group that Ayers and Obama were a part of was the Annenberg Challenge. It was a group dedicated to improving the education of children in Chicago&#8217;s under performing schools. It had nothing to do with radical politics, bomb throwing, or overthrowing the government. It was funded by a Rock-ribbed Republican Mr. Annenberg former ambassador to the UK under Richard Nixon. Ayers help to write the grant proposal with two other people. If one bothers to actually look at the actual composition of the Annenberg Challenge and how it operated for its five years any notions of subversion would be quickly erased. Annenberg was a straight-down-the-middle (if left of center) school reform program. No foaming-at-the-mouth radicals of any stripe allowed.</p>
<p>5. It would be impossible for Barack Obama to object to Mr Ayers 2001 comment of being unrepentant back in 1997 when he penned a few nice blurbs about Ayers book.  More to the point the book itself may have had actual value. Nixon wrote numerous books, some which were highly praised, after his disgraceful exit from politics.  Nixon was also never convicted of any crime, just like Aryes.  </p>
<p>6.  While the Weather Underground was formed by Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn they were not part of the group that caused either death or injury.  The death of Police Officer Brian V. McDonnell was never solved. Both the Weathermen and the Black Panthers were investigated but nothing came of it.  After the Greenwich Village explosion the Weather Underground killed no one.  Some members of WU were convicted for crimes they participated in as members of the Black Liberation Army but this was long after the WU as a movement was dissolved. That particular crime, the robbing of a Brinks Truck, occurred a year after Ayers and Dohrn ended their underground existence.</p>
<p>7. Obama did condemn, denounce, and otherwise tut-tut Ayers when it became a matter of national concern.  As a matter of local concern, there was none.  Chicago had long ago moved beyond Ayers past.  In Chicago Ayers was a respected voice in the field of Educational reform.  Obama was not the only person who gave him such deference, so too did captains of industry and a veritable who&#8217;s who of Chicago&#8217;s civic society some of them very main-line Republicans. Many other Chicagoans served on that board. None of them had any problems with Bill Ayers. Either you must believe the entire civic and political establishment of Chicago plus the Annenberg were culpable of bad judgment or maybe just accept that Bill Ayers had something valuable to contribute to the reform of urban schools in Chicago.</p>
<p>8. The relationship between Ayers and Obama has been fully vetted as any relationship in politics will ever be  (sort of like the relationship between John McCain and Charles Keating or John McCain and the sexy blond telecoms lobbyist.) Besides even if Obama gave you every last detail, you would still accuse him of holding back.  Ayers is not really the issue. Obama could come out tomorrow and literally kick Ayers down a flight of stairs and  no one at N.Q. would be impressed. </p>
<p>9. While Scott Nelson is entitled to his opinions and his long service to nation is much appreciated, his arguments fail to impress.  It is the same old N.Q. / right wing nonsense, the same old guilt by association that McCain and the Republicans have been bandying about for months now.  It is the same old talking points, the same over the top conflation that does not hold water.  Obama is not Aryes.  Obama&#8217;s association with Ayers only proves a mutual interest in improving the Chicago school system.  It the same old tiered lies repeated over, and over, and over again.  Obama&#8217;s first fund drive was held in a Holiday Inn not Aryes house.  Obama&#8217;s relationship with Aryes was tangential at best. By the time Obama met Ayers William Ayers was a respected community leader in the field of education.  </p>
<p>10. William Ayers is still a respected teacher, leader and role model for many students of Education.  He energizes people to become great educators.  His classes are sought out by students and he has mentored many great educators. The city of Chicago awarded him Citizen of the Year in 1997, they did this despite his radical past.  No one at the University of Illinois, Chicago has a problem with Bill Aryes, activist, professor, educator. He is a Senior Scholar and a Distinguished Professor and like every other good professor in the Publish or Perish world of Academia he has written many books on his chosen subject. That is the man Barack Obama knew in Chicago.  The other William Aryes, the fugitive radical, he turned himself into the authorities in 1980. Thanks to F.B.I mis and malfeasance he never was held accountable for his actions. </p>
<p>That William Ayers was nobody and nothing to Obama.  He was a footnote at best in a History book that Obama read perhaps in High School.  For Obama weathermen were the guys on T.V. telling you if it was going to rain on the weekend. Barack Obama was just getting into college when William Ayers finally became legit.  By the time Ayers had his overprice cup of coffee with Obama in 1995 the former fugitive from justice had been a law abiding citizen for over 15 years. By the time Obama ran for president Ayers had been a model citizen for more than a generation. To steal from Douglas Addams, the Bill Ayers Obama knew was &#8220;mostly harmless.&#8221;  While Scott Nelson may disagree with that conclusion, it is an accurate assessment of Professor William Ayers today.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy L. NC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy L. NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Nelson is a patriot!  I hope he condenses his article and faxes it to all newspapers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Nelson is a patriot!  I hope he condenses his article and faxes it to all newspapers.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeVeteran</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeVeteran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I turned down Navy Satellite Weapons Targetting in 1997 because as a true child of the San Francisco Bay Area, I did not want a war in the Middle East. My Peace Pipe meant nothing in 2001. Regardless of my position, I found upon analysis and personal self-examination that being out of the National Security loop made me no less responsible than if I had been charting those maps of terrorists. However, the one thing that I never actually realized that people like the Ayers existed freely in our America. Now, I feel that my obligation is to not allow the Anti-Americans sabatoge the nation my family fought for in all of the wars since the American Revolution.

Shame on You Senator Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I turned down Navy Satellite Weapons Targetting in 1997 because as a true child of the San Francisco Bay Area, I did not want a war in the Middle East. My Peace Pipe meant nothing in 2001. Regardless of my position, I found upon analysis and personal self-examination that being out of the National Security loop made me no less responsible than if I had been charting those maps of terrorists. However, the one thing that I never actually realized that people like the Ayers existed freely in our America. Now, I feel that my obligation is to not allow the Anti-Americans sabatoge the nation my family fought for in all of the wars since the American Revolution.</p>
<p>Shame on You Senator Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: nikki</title>
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		<dc:creator>nikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems like a small thing compared to all the others, however this parking ticket issue is simply that Obama feels as though he is above the law. What an awesome characteristic to have in the Commander in Chief!. This blows my mind that I have been reading and watching as much as possible and this is the first I have heard of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems like a small thing compared to all the others, however this parking ticket issue is simply that Obama feels as though he is above the law. What an awesome characteristic to have in the Commander in Chief!. This blows my mind that I have been reading and watching as much as possible and this is the first I have heard of this.</p>
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