Whitey Tape, API, Phil Berg, and Andy Martin
By Larry Johnson on October 21, 2008 at 10:52 AM in Current Affairs
Boy the waters are roiling. It is true that we stand on the precipice of electing the least vetted, unqualified man for President in the history of the United States. I am getting a flood of emails from folks–most well intentioned and a few trolls–desperate for the October surprise, whatever it might be. So let me try to answer some of the questions circulating.
The Whitey Tape–None of my three main sources on who told me about the existence of a video recording of Michelle Obama making disparaging comments about white folks have backed off. Two of these sources are Democrats and are journalists. They were not trying to sabotage the Obama campaign. They were passing on something they believed to be true. The fact that my third source, a person who lives on the West Coast and is a Republican, has no ties whatsoever to the other two but told the same story persuaded me this “tape” exists. My Republican friend tells me that the McCain campaign intervened and requested the tape not be used.
There also is the fact that the Obama campaign at one point circulated the lame story that Michelle was not using “whitey” as an epithet. Nope. She was saying, “Why’d he.” You don’t put out a story line like that if such a recording does not exist. At this point I don’t think it is going to be used.
African Press InternationalMany of the conservative blogs are buzzing about the supposed release of an audiotape featuring Michelle Obama complaining about API coverage and her alleged acknowledgment that Barack was an Indonesian citizen. I have no doubt that Barack was adopted by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro, and became an Indonesian citizen as a child. However, I don’t find this report credible. I am happy to be proven wrong in my belief, but I don’t think Michelle Obama is just sitting around watching and reading news accounts and calling up folks to complain. If that was true I would have expected a call from the lovely Mrs. Obama. API is claiming it has the audiotape and it will be released imminently. I was born and raised in Independence, Missouri. I am a Show Me state boy. I am not writing anymore on this matter until an audiotape appears.
Phil Berg and his lawsuit–Poor Phil Berg. He can’t get arrested in Philadelphia right now. His effort to mount a legal challenge to Barack Obama’s qualifications, or lack thereof in terms of citizenship, to be President appears to be going no where. Yet he is declaring victory of sorts today. According to a story at America’s Right:
Berg: Due to Procedure, Obama and DNC Admit all Allegations
According to Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, a party upon whom requests for admissions have been served must respond, within 30 days, or else the matters in the requests will be automatically deemed conclusively admitted for purposes of the pending action.
On September 15, as part of his federal lawsuit contending that the Illinois senator is ineligible, pursuant to the U.S. Constitution, to serve as president of the United States, Philadelphia attorney Philip Berg served Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee with just such a request. Soon thereafter, on October 6, Barack Obama and the DNC acknowledged service in their motion for protective order, filed in an attempt to persuade the court to stay discovery. The Federal Rules require that a response to a request for admissions be served within the 30-day time limit, and Barack Obama and the DNC have not done so.
Therefore, this morning, amidst news reports that Barack Obama will be suspending his campaign for a few days so he can fly to Hawaii to visit his grandmother, who has suddenly fallen ill, Philip Berg will file two motions in district court in Philadelphia:
A motion requesting an immediate order deeming his request for admissions served upon Barack Obama and the DNC on September 15 admitted by default, and
A motion requesting an expedited ruling and/or hearing on Berg’s motion deeming the request for admissions served upon Obama and the DNC admitted.Berg contends that the failure to respond and serve the response within the time limit is “damning,” and made two appearances overnight on Rollye James’ talk radio program, the second one coming shortly after midnight, during which he disclosed the meat of today’s filings and the legal and political ramifications of the defendants’ failure to respond.
I am not a lawyer but I thought the DNC has asked for a delay and the judge in the case still has not ruled. I think this much is certain. Even if Obama is elected these questions, like Whitewater in the case of the Clintons, is not going to disappear and will be fodder for further investigations and legal challenges.
Andy Martin–And Mr. Martin is in the news. The Obama team came after him as a rabid anti-Semite. Let me see if I have this right, Barack Obama hangs out with Louis Farrakhan and Rashid Khalidi and Andy Martin is the anti-Semite? Anyway, Andy is in Hawaii and many are speculating that his investigative efforts there are the real reason that Barack has suspended his campaign and headed for Honolulu. There is a nifty thread on Andy’s efforts over at the Hillary Clinton forum (read here). I don’t know if there is any fire beneath the smoke Andy is putting up, but we will know by next Tuesday.
Conclusion
I believe we ought to start the rumor that Barack Obama really is a disgruntled plumber from Ohio. That appears to be the only way the media will be inspired to conduct a thorough investigation of why Barack has covered up and mythologized his childhood and his ties to radicals like Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and Louis Farrakhan. All hail Barack!
OT…
OMG, Obama holding a Jobs Summit, and on his panel is Richardson. What a joke… Why doesn’t he have a townhall meeting with McCain. This is so ridiculous you can see Richardson going through his role. This summit should have been done on Broadway or Disneyworld inside Fantasy Land. The sad part to this, are the people inside believing all the characters in this Play called, “Obama, The Talk Show”. Their experience’s should come from the HEART not from a piece of Paper in front of them.
I hope that the tape, if it exists, is released independent of McCain.
McCain’s big mistake is to not work sneaky like Obama. The criticism comes directly from his mouth or Pallin’s.
Obama sends his little Trolls out on the web to do his dirty business.
There is a potent smear commercial against McCain replaying here in NYC. They aired it during SNL, and I’ve seen it on CNN as well.
More and more, I agree with Susan.
Let’s vote McCain.
IF this tape exists it seems to me it is the patriotic duty to show it, Biden’s statement hints that Israel is in danger, I know McCain wants to take the high road but if he really puts country first he will expose Michelle for the racist she is.
That’s a sign he is losing support. He never talks about issues unless he absolutely has to.
And is now taking a page from Hillary and John to copy….a Townhall to talk about the issues.
Richardson……..UGH, he is helping cost the Democrats in this state (deservingly). People are so sick of him. They were pushing Richardson so he would leave the state. The same reason they were jumping on the Barry wagon, thinking he would appoint Richardson VP and now they’re prayiing for a Cabinet position. They don’t like what Richardson has done to this state. Just terrible.
And his latest baby. The mega million (over 400) to build his train from south of Albuquerque to Santa Fe. Yep all that money for a choo choo that goes between two cities an hour away in one limited track. He said this is part of state transportation and the state would pay and run it. Then while he was running for Pres, news came out that they were going to raise taxes to help fund the maintenance of it. NO KIDDING. He put a stop to that “silly talk”, until after his failed campaign run. Now he is pushing for the tax and it’s on this Election Ballot. He has to pay the people, particularly his transportation Dept, like Rhonda Fought, who pushed his choo choo through the city planning dept and campaigned for him, so she can get more money. Get this, only half will be going to maintenance of the train and the other half to be dispersed accordingly.
Yes, I wouldn’t mind Richardson gone from here, but I don’t wish him on the rest of our country in exchange for our freedom.
…I’m that kinda’ gal.
I got quite ill this AM on every channel I turned to they had Precious on. His name or him giving a speech or a chart showing how his plans were soooooo much better than McCain’s NBC had maybe 5 to 7 minutes straight of that drivel. It was early morning (before 6 )and I hope that it was the blue collar workers like Joe the Plumber who probably loath him as much as I do that were hearing it. Turning TV off was not an option, a pillow over the head works tho.
Turn on FOX cable channel in the AM. Fox and friends is wonderful and not afraid to tell the truth.
They are getting great ratings, too- another tell tale sign.
( As an aside, it’s always a special treat when Obama surrogate, Stephanie Cutter, visits that or any show. When she provides her shreiking and screaming almost to the point of tears to defend Obama, she really advertises the desperation of those who support ‘the nothing’.)
Haha! I noticed that too. The true definition of shrill.
I’m much happier tuning out and turning off the TV. I turn it on when I know there’s something I WANT TO WATCH, ONLY. And if they don’t provide it, I watch it on line.
They can’t take my home for granted.
I’m much happiier that way. If I can’t change what they are doing, I’m not going to reward them with my blood pressure and time (and stats for viewership).
Fox is getting turned on more and more these days.
Remember, the best invention with the boobs on the tube is the OFF SWTICH.
all the media support, 605 million $$$ to McCain’s 84 million, and a “give me” for the democrats this year and yet he still has not closed the deal. I wonder who is going to be dragging his ass over the finish line this time.
ACORN.
Tzada,
I believe in Abe Lincoln words, you can fool some people all of the time, you can fool all people, some of the time, but you can’t fool ALL people ALL of the time.
I the meantime we get to see these tapes, you might want to see the new sequel of a video that could me known as “Back from the Future Obama Style”.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78576
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Hey Linda, thanks for telling everyone what a disaster (an tool) Richardson is. I visit there at least twice a year and my MIL is always talking about his latest screw up. I think the odds are good NM goes for McCain (judging by the sense I’ve gotten down there in elections past). How do you think it looks?
I don’t know. The numbers of course have been for Barry. But there was a brief time where McCain did get a bump that put him up.
But we have a lot of uneducated voters who tend for Richardson…ie Barry. Weak minds.
I choked when I went in to the post office the other day and a worker was chit chatting with a woman. He was spreading the rumor that an Obot came in and told him “the plumber was a plant…he’s an actor hired by the republicans….oh, good they’ll get their’s, I’m so happy this came out.” The woman was “oh, thank you, I was in a bad mood, but now I’m happy.” The the postal worker sat there going “yeah, and what’s with his arms, he looks like a robot”. Then the woman said “and his wife, she looks like a stepford wife”.
…I was just in shock with my mouth hanging open listening to this…IN THE POST OFFICE.
so if these uninformed koolaid drinkers are a majority…we’re in trouble.
Being it is close and the undecideds usually favor the real candidate, I’m hopefull, especially because there are plenty not happy with Barry here.
It can’t be said enough that Barry approached Joe, uninvited, in his own yard. Barry is the one who bought the cameras too.
And his wife? He’s divorced, just got custody of his son and is a single dad. How can anyone possibly think he was somehow “planted” under those circumstances? Sadly, there are so many idiots out there. And that postal worker should be reported and punished for talking politics on the clock.
Weak minds quick to want to believe in bad.
…isn’t that a sad group of folks?
You see, Linda. I am a little different. Maybe it is that I have an advantage, being dark skin and colored. I was in Winn Dixie and everybody was talking about “the one” and how they couldn’t wait to see him elected. I am one with patience but I had enough. I said” YOU KNOW THAT LAST THING I WANT TO HEAR WHEN I AM TRYING TO DO MY GROCERIES IS WHAT THAT HALF-BREED WHITE SOCIALIST IS GOING TO DO FOR OUR COUNTRY. WHY DON’T YOU ALL DO SOMETHING LIKE “WORK” FOR THIS STORE INSTEAD OF FUMING OVER THIS BI-SEXUAL RACIST.” There was a hush, and one of the cashier rung me up very quietly. I am sure they said alot after I left, but, I made a point. But, as I said, I have an advantage.
Great Job, I would have loved to watch that, you must have put those Morons into Shock!
Lars Thorwald works for the Post Office in New Mexico ?
LOL!
I’m starting to hope the rumor is true that Val Kilmer is looking at running for Governor.
On the Ground in NM: Biden/Richardson/Endorsement Punch Hits So. NM; Big Early Voting Turnout; BREAKING: McCain May Be Here on Saturday
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/on-the-ground-in-nm-bidenrichardsonendorsement-punch-hits-so-nm-big-early-voting-turnout-breaking-mccain-may-be-here-on-saturday/
Seems to be some “torn” voters here….see article I’ve cited…
as of about 3:30 pm, still no confirm on whether McCain will be here Sat. I comment about this in the post…
Thomas the train should come-out with Special Edition for NM. They can call it “Taxes”
I can’t stand Judas. I am sorry for your pain. Your state is incredibly beautiful and he is like a wart.
I also live in New Mexico, so thank you for the compliment. As far as the wart goes, we need some industrial-strength Compound W. I hate the wart.
Linda, I’m a New Mexican since 1991 and I disagree completely with your take on what Richardson has done for this state.
First of all, the Rail Runner–the most beautiful train on the planet IMO–is a commuter train that currently runs between Belen on the south and Bernalillo on the north. The Santa Fe connection should be completed in by Christmas, and I can’t wait.
When it is completed, I’ll be spending a lot of time in Santa Fe (I live in Burque). I have friends there, and also need to do some research for a book I’m writing.
In any case, the Rail Runner is already very, very successful, to the point where they’ve had to add extra cars and extra runs, and the Santa Fe connection will probably double that. There are a LOT of people who live in Santa Fe but work in Burque, and vice versa. Do you really think they’re gonna keep on driving an hour each way if they can just hop on a train, the way it’s done in other major metropolitan centers in this country?
Second, Richardson provided the tax incentives necessary to persuade several of the major Hollywood studios to relocate to Albuquerque. Burque is now “Tamalewood” (see the Nov 2008 issue of New Mexico Magazine for details). I don’t know how many millions of dollars and thousands of jobs this has brought to the state, but it’s considerable.
BTW, the new USA show In Plain Sight–starring Mary McCormack–is set in Albuquerque, and it’s a hoot to watch it and see all the familiar landmarks.
That said, Judas Richardson has revealed himself to be a total jerk this year and I’ve come to detest him personally, but that doesn’t take away from the good things he’s done for us–in utter and complete contrast, I might add, to Gary Johnson’s eight interminable years as gov. What exactly did that doofus ever do for New Mexico?
Totally and completely false:
The Railroad is going to haul illegals from ABQ to Santa Fe.
That’s it.
Its a big joke among New Mexicans who all understand that Santa Feans keep the cost of living high in Santa Fe so as to keep out the very people they claim to want to “help.”
btw, Everybody: Santa Fe is a third-rate town. Nothing worth seeing there that you can’t see in Las Cruces/Old Mesilla.
MG-PUMA
MG-PUMA, you’re an envious bigot.
35,000 people travel between Burque and Santa Fe each day. So you’re claiming they’re all “illegals” going up to clean houses and wait tables?
What an eejit…
He screwed us down here in the south with is crappy Spaceport which WE are paying for, although it’s touted as helping the state…then let all New Mexicans pay! It’s going to be funded by another regressive sales tax on the poor here….
Why didn’t he take the money the state is putting into it and run the damned train down here to the south! By the way, we helped PAID for that lovely train you have up there…
I meant we helped PAY for that train…
PS…the poor are being regressively taxed to help woo Richard Branson…the crew went down to his fancy house in the islands to do the deal…
Richardson is another “all about him” guy…
I think you better look into that Film business a little closer, you are probably paying lots of Money for those jobs. I live in Michiganistan and we are starting to get Films being made here, the State gives a 40% TAX CREDIT for the Money they spend in the State on Production. That means if they spend $1000 the State will send them a check for $400, what a deal, some chumps (the Taxpayers) are paying almost half the cost. If I was making a Film I’d come here too.
Linda,
Kinda like a choo choo to nowhere???
Vote straight Republican, BR will get the message.
It’s not a “choo-choo to nowhere.” It’s a commuter train serving the Middle Rio Grande Valley–the Albuquerque/Santa Fe metropolitan area–which contains half the state’s c. 2,000,000 population. 35,000 of those people travel just between Burque and Santa Fe every day. That’s an hour each way on the interstate. Ever tried getting up (or down) La Bajada Hill on an icy winter day?
And the 1/8 cent sales tax for the Rail Runner applies only to the four counties it serves: Santa Fe, Sandoval, Bernalillo and Valencia.
Linda –
I’m just getting to read this early Wednesday morning. Thanks for the information on Richardson’s Choo Choo train – what a friggin’ dweeb – no – make the friggin’ dweeb JUDAS although he looks like LUCIFER with that devilish goatee of his.
I have a question. The campaign said BO would be back on Saturday to campaign, so does that mean he knows his Grandmother will be healed by his presence, or that he expects that is enough time for her to die and have a funeral just in time for him to get back on the campaign trail??? LMAO!!! Anyone else wondering how he has a time line for his Grandmother’s illness, but SERIOUSLY, when the elders in my family were sick, we waited for days or weeks. Or does he just plan on checking in a hotel, eating some fancy meals per donation money, saying goodbye to Granny, destroying all evidence of anything she owns that would prove he is not a US citizen and then leave to continue his campaign of fraud? Just thinking out loud!! ROFL!!
Richardson will be looking for a job for himself before long. New Mexico says good riddance to the turncoat, traitor, sorry excuse of a politician.
Phil Berg has the Right to ask for enforcement of the admission as it pertains to the Constitution. Obama is in an indefensible position. Berg has to ask the Court for Obama’s removal as the Democratic Nominee.
Barky really screwed up on failure to respond to admissions…amounts to Gross Legal Negligence…Berg is right on that
Actually, it may be just the opposite. From a post on Berg’s site:
This seriously erodes my confidence in the credibility of Mr. Berg.
Mr. Berg apparently doesn’t understand basic civil procedure.
Discovery cannot be served before the parties have conducted a discovery conference. See Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 26(d). Because that hasn’t been done yet, Mr. Berg’s discovery is improper and need not be responded to.
Second, a motion for a protective order is a response to a discovery request and relieves the moving party from the obligation to respond until the motion is resolved by the court. See Rule 26(c) and the cases interpreting that rule.
Is Mr. Berg ruining this case because he’s an incompetent attorney, or is he sabotaging the case on purpose?
Is there any way for a competent and dedicated attorney to intervene and take this over so it is handled right and we don’t get thrown out for failing to follow the procedural rules?
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admissions questios is elementary and separate to the Discovery….Barky has to respond to it. It is different than providing the documents.
I have been through this and learned the hard way.
Because my atty. never gave me the q’s my entire case was almost thrown out…and my atty. in a panic quit the case.
I also found out that this was why another lawyer wouldn’t take my case…it is that basic and that harmful…Barky was required to respond to the admissions/Deny request…
The admissions/deny is standard to discovery but is not quite the same thing…2 different things but related. you can delay and fight discovery all you want…that is what a discovery conference is about…but admissions/deny is different…you have to respond within the time period…period!
FAILURE TO RESPOND IS A BIG MISTAKE!
I agree. Some courts have different rules on this, but the request to delay discovery has not been ruled on yet, and as I understand it, without a specific order extending time to respond to demands to admit, missing the deadline in the rules would trigger the default rules.
Now, if there is good reason for the delay, many courts will cure it all with discretionary orders, but its not a sure thing, and this sounds like BO might just be hoping to solve this the Chicago way — win the election by hook and by crook, and then dare some arm of government to do something about it.
Or maybe the real legal strategy is that Nancy P will rush some curative legislation through, you know, deeming anyone who believed in good faith before reaching the age of majority that they were born in the US to be a natural born citizen, or some such nonsense.
I think FRCP 26(E) is why barky has to disclose the information, even tho he has a motion before the court to dismiss and protect. And basically, this kind of information is something every American has to produce for lots of reasons, so it is unreasonable to think that Barky doesn’t have access to this info:
More on Federal Rules of Civil Procedure here:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/Rule26.htm
there already is a resolution in the Senate which tries to do the same thing. It was put forth by Leahy, McCatskill, and Obama. It tries to create a blanket exception for naturalized citizens. The resolution was done regarding McCain (but was unnecessary actually), and Obama tried to have language strictly about McCain eliminated. Note the bolded parts below:
The whole thing is curious:
http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html
Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and
George Romney-Mexico, Goldwater-AZ territory…you can run for the office but neither got to hold the office.
This is the section Claire and Barky tried to remove:
Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it
Thanks for the additional information. With Barky rushing off to put out another fire in Hawaii, as Andy Martin is filing a motion to release Barky’s Birth Records. It warms my heart to see this impostor run his *ss off trying to hide the inevitable.
The SOB is such a coward!
Since there was no need for this, I am certain it was done on Barky’s behalf. There’s already an Amendment which covers McCain quite adequately.
I’d be willing to bet that Barky’s ineligible and is trying hard to supress that until after the election. However, he cannot override our Constitution, and neither can any Act of Congress. His actions are so telling, and so disrespectful of our nation of laws.
Any whoo, my husband used some of this, as well as other, information to persuade a retired AA military NCO at his job to vote for McCain. This man was SO MAD when he heard that someone tried to make an issue of McCain’s birth. We military are more than Patriotic–duh.
dp–very cool that your husband used this and other information…
I was so furious when I read this resolution–knowing McCain was already a citizen by law–and i’m not even military.
i just note he is so disrespectful of the military, our laws, and the constitution, and that he is purposely pushing chaos and a constitutional crisis, and covering up his tracks using the senate…
Dr. Kate –
Yes – I was born in France to parents in the USAF and I’ve always carried citizenship here – I never had to go thru any procedural red tape to get someone to say I was a legit U.S. Citizen. That entire action is DEFINITELY suspect – but we’re all supposed to be loony tunes to be suspicious.
As I’ve posted here recently, I (and others) have been suspicious of how BO’s grandmother has been kept under lock and key and not out of eyesight of BO’s half sister since his run for the Presidency began. This grandmother has been completely sequestered from ALL press and media questions – half sister ALWAYS being her police.
McCain doesn’t have someone hoving over his mother – she is definitely a firecracker and, like many elderly, not always politically correct – but, nevertheless, McCain hasn’t kept her under lock and key and sequestered from the press.
THIS GRANDMOTHER KNOWS THE TRUTH ABOUT BO’s BIRTH – AND HE DOESN’T WANT HER OPENING UP TO THE MEDIA ABOUT IT – PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
Now Andy Martin is in Hawaii and all of a sudden BO is rushing to Hawaii… even if his Grandmother does have a broken hip or is ill – I have suspicions about all of it.
Long time readers of this blog and similar sites have long been aware of this “curious” legislation, and to me, this is the most damning of all circumstancial evidence pointing to Barry’s natural born citizen status. What I fear is that BHO’s zombie followers won’t even care that he isn’t a natural born citizen. Another graphic reminder that the press is dead. They should have been pounding that fishwife McCaskill until she gave out and admitted that she is part of Barry’s conspiracy to fleece the American people. The question is why. This has to be about more than the egotistical desires of Obama….there has to be more to it and it is terrifying.
The McCain people saw that little trick the Obama folks were doing and stopped it. Maybe they all know Obama isn’t eligible, just look how much info you get online for Free, you’d know much more if you hired the All-Stars like they do.
Important Update:
Obama & DNC Admit All Allegations of Federal Court Lawsuit – Obama’s “Not” Qualified to be President
Obama Should Immediately Withdraw his Candidacy for President
For Immediate Release: – 10/21/08 – Complete contact details and a pdf are at the end of this article
(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania �” 10/21/08) – Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that Obama and tbe DNC “ADMITTED”, by way of failure to timely respond to Requests for Admissions, all of the numerous specific requests in the Federal lawsuit. Obama is “NOT QUALIFIED” to be President and therefore Obama must immediately withdraw his candidacy for President and the DNC shall substitute a qualified candidate. The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.
Berg stated that he filed Requests for Admissions on September 15, 2008 with a response by way of answer or objection had to be served within thirty [30] days. No response to the Requests for Admissions was served by way of response or objection. Thus, all of the Admissions directed to Obama and the DNC are deemed “ADMITTED.” Therefore, Obama must immediately withdraw his candidacy for President.
More Information: http://www.obamacrimes.com
Yep! Berg is correct…First year Law School stuff and standard…You have to respond to the admissions despite the hearings…Regardless…Mostly the other side just circles deny…but you have to read the questions carefully lots of tripping up that can be used later if discovery motion is granted…Barky reall screwed up and by not responding basically agreed to Berg’s accusations…lol…
Gee you’d think the Constitutional Law Expert and the DNC Lawyers would caught that one…I so enjoyed reading Berg about this snafu of Barky’s. Could sway the judge to grant discovery…imho…
Boy I post the articles I found and someone else starts a thread….I would have started the thread but I dont have that privilege…..
But anyway, the truth is getting out….
Whatever, Larry….this stuff isn’t relevant to me, anyway.
I have no doubt Michelle was a big-mouth. I also don’t think she is the same person today.
But…whatever.
These slime-tactics aren’t any more worthwhile than those used against Palin.
I’ve obviously made it clear that I don’t support them.
On either side.
So AnninCa you don’t mind a first lady who wants hates white people?
I think its a pity we don’t get to see it and judge for ourselves. If a potential first lady is a racist, I think the American people have a right to know what they’re getting into when they vote.
Also, the slime tactics the Dems have been using against Palin don’t work with us…but they work with a lot of others. I recently heard from an elderly relative of mine, who lives in WA state, loves Alaska, is an independent type, & who gave me the standard anti-Palin spiel that they heard on msnbc!
If racism is questioned of Michelle Obama just read her Princeton Thesis.
MO supports Rev Wright’s theology and where she met and married BO. They are 2 peas in a pod indoctrinating their children to another generation of “white” racism.
Neither of them are worthy to step foot in the White House much less making it their home for the next 8 yrs.
Read it. It’s good stuff. Maybe you should read it. Maybe you should go to college.
Why is it not important that Barack Obama may not be a citizen of the USA?
Michelle Obama is not a changed person. She and Barack are racists and associate with racists. It may not be important to you but I am one of the millions that they hate.
Barack Obama would not even be hired for most jobs, due to his lack of experience and his radical leanings. He would also be required to provide proof of citizenship for some jobs. He would also have to provide his Selective Service registration proof, his college records, drug testing, medical records and some references.
It is puzzling to me, why you think the vetting process should not be done. It is even more important than some of the other issues that you would redirect to. This will not go away until all questions are answered.
tzada, you are 100% correct! Due to his thin resume, even McDonald will not hire the type of Obama, an admitted ex-drug addict & phony.
His choice of Biden, an old Washingtonian, as his VP,speaks for itself: Obama’s boneheaded judgement !
And now, America, how many boneheaded voters are there to rope you and drag you to despair ?
Do not worry, truth will prevail and America, the great nation, will be saved from Obama’s dirty politics by the patriotic voters.
For our great nation, vote for the safety and prosperity of America !
Vote McCain & Palin’08
God Bless America !!!
annin, i have a bridge in brooklyn for you. if you honestly believe that white hating michelle isn’t the same, then i know you’ll love owning this bridge.
Annin is a concern troll. She needs to be ignored for her own good. She needs to take her act somewhere else. We’ve put up with it long enough.
In short: please ignore the troll.
Concern troll my a**. AnninCA seems to me to be exceptionally calm, levelheaded, and fair–in complete contrast to you wingnuts who still think Obama is a “socialist” and a “far left liberal” who’s supported by the “liberal” media.
Yeah, right–the same “liberal” media that was totally in the tank for Gee Dubya in 2000 and 2004, and did everything they could to help gin up support for his war in EyeRack… that liberal media.
Trolls sticking up for other trolls… that’s precious. You guys have a union or something?
Well, what is he then?
Jules..
Obama is the Face of Fascism before it turns ugly and becomes part of our new way of life.
Annina Ca
Yes, you are right. She is different.
Obama’s campaign “Stepford Wifed” her!!!!
AnninCA –
You don’t think she’s the same person today? LOL! You obviously were NOT paying attention to her behavior in SC during the primaries and must not be informed as to the racist hate white America campaign BO ran here thru the AA churches.
You might want to do some research and read some things that AA women who supported Hillary have said about what BO’s campaign was saying about the Clintons and white America. Also – some of Michelle Obama’s most controversial statements was made at the Univ. of SC.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/RCP_PDF/BG_102108_2-way-ballot-trender.pdf
Well, this is interesting (though somewhat contrary to other polls): GWU/Battleground has Obama up by only one. Uno. (1). Single,
Zogby employees up in Utica, NY also say the race is tied. Zogby polls way more Democrats and that is why the results show as they do.
Rasmussen is 4 again today. I think this is good news.
I also discount most every body involved in trying to get the truth out about Obama except for
Andy Martin. Remember folks the governor of Hawaii is a friend of Sarah Palin’s and a Republican so lets hope she can be persuaded in Andy’s suit and I “betcha” she can be.
This is strange but just a few days ago that same poll showed a 13 point spread. Some others seems to be tightening but not as much.
Hope that it is a harbinger of where the others will be soon.
I did some checking and found that this poll is a University poll that got 2004 correct within 1/2 percentage point. Here is an article that they wrote about their poll
Battleground Hits a Bull’s Eye
The George Washington University Battleground Poll, a highly regarded bi-partisan survey, was the most accurate presidential tracking poll in the nation; a near perfect match to the final popular vote as reported by the Associated Press. The GW-Battleground Poll was the most accurate for the third time in four presidential elections.
“The election is remarkable in that a number of pundit’s predictions were realized, particularly the importance of battleground states such as Ohio and Florida,” Christopher Arterton, dean of GW’s Graduate School of Political Management (GSPM) and liaison for the GW-Battleground 2004 Poll said. “The GW-Battleground Poll applied the science of polling and coupled it with the dynamic of bipartisanship to accurately predict this election outcome. The University looks forward to continuing sponsorship of this nationally recognized survey.”
The University sponsors the GW-Battleground Poll, which is conducted by top polling firms Lake Snell Perry and Associates and The Tarrance Group and guided by Arterton and GSPM. The poll surveyed registered likely voters nationwide and yielded a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percent.
I’m not surprised about McCain not wanting to use the whitey tape. I’m very disappointed though as I feel the public deserves a fuller and truer picture of Obama. He’s called Michelle his most-trusted advisor, so I don’t consider it off-limits. I believe all of these accusations of racism have been to serve the purpose of thwarting the effect the whitey tape would have. Oh well.
I believe in its existence because of the dissembling — the “why’d he” explanation was proof enough for me. But when I recently read rumors that Seymour Hersh had the tape, I lost hope that it would ever see the light of day since he’s a Democrat.
Patience – Very good points – especially, as you said, that she is his closest advisor, 20 years in a racist hate baiting church, cronies all around him have also expressed hatred toward caucasians – Farrakhan, Moses, Wright, Pfleger, etc.
By suppressing the Whitey Tape and mention of Jeremiah Wright, McCain might be running one of the most ethical campaigns in American History. Barack Obama not so much.
If true about the whitey tape, everything should come out. It will only prove to the American people that all Obama has done is lied to us. Starting with his Birth Certificate which should have been Step 1, to run for POTUS, just like McCain did.
Obama should come out and Speak the Truth and Shame the Devil. If he doesn’t McCain should do it for him.
A democracy does not thrive in secrecy and those who help keep the secrets of Soertro/Obama’s life can not preserve by secrecy a democracy created to protect its People.
While I appreciate Sen. McCain’s ethical approach, what’s making me mad is that the 527’s are not putting this stuff out.
The Swift Boat Liar’s didn’t listen to McCain in ‘04, so why start now?
Indeed – why would they hold back?
They wouldn’t.
Ergo — no tape exists
Hey Fred –
If the tape doesn’t exist, why did so many in BO’s campaign rush around like crazy people to every media outlet pushing that Michelle was saying , “why’d he”?
You have YET to explain that one – “ergo” the tape MUST exist…somewhere.
That was, you know, one blogger. On the DailyKos. Who was told to shut up because he didn’t know what the hell he was talking about.
I heard yesterday on a talk radio show that the republicain national party is telling MCcain that he will use Rev. Wright against Obama in the coming weeks. I wonder if they will use the tape of Michelle Obama along with this. I know we have no physical proof of the tapes existance, but I am like you Larry, a person does not try to explain away something unless it is fact. I personaly think it should be used since the Obama campaign has made race such a factor in this election.
n0bama said that his minister was a legitimate issue back during the primary. It was on one of the Sunday morning blabfests.
“a person does not try to explain away something unless it is fact. ”
Are you people actually unaware that the whole “why’d he” thing was totally made up by a blogger just to prove how unhinged Larry is?
pwnd
again
Riiiiight Fred – You MUST own stock in Reynolds Aluminum – keep making the hats bud.
I read McCain’s detailed horoscope, there’s a bit in there about how he can work against himself.
I hope he hasn’t muzzled the 527s.
McCain has run one the worst campaigns in history. Here he has as a opponent, a Marxist thug who has a history of befriending racists, anti-semites and ex-terrorists.
He should have wiped the floor with him months ago.
But instead he has refused to go after Obama and his associates and instead play patty cake with him.
Overall McCain is doing a great job at not getting elected.
Couldn’t disagree with you more.
Your right-wing ideas aren’t a winner this year.
Everyone is aware of your commitment here, miss half-way. Continue with it and watch Obama get elected.
I feel you wrap yourself up in your past-tense ways. That old hippie shit won’t wash right now and your continual efforts at diluting the intensity of people efforts here is not doing shit to stop Obama.
You’re the person who sits in the car while others push and bitches about the ride.
Either try to commit to something and follow through or just go over to the other side and play with them.
Nobody needs a ‘Devil’s Advocate’ or anything resembling one here.
When someone accuses you of this ambivalence, all you do is say maybe yes, maybe no.
This isn’t a practice test, not a dry run, and NOT involved with whether you want to still flash a peace sign and buy into that shit. Its about stopping a Marxist/Socialist who will take away your right to hug a tree, drink some accanacia tea, burn your bra, bitch about greenspace or anything else.
Put down the violin miss grasshopper and get in here with the rest of the ants or get lost.
Thanks for saying this about Annin, Zeke.
You are right. I also think that she’s a troll.
Her continual pessimism is boring. I think the best strategy is to ignore her.
Zeke, you are right about AnninCA being a troll. She quit NQ about a month ago calling us all crazies/loonies or some such nonsense and saying she was never coming back. Now here she is spewing her troll crap.
Zeke, but really, step away from the keyboard. No need to trash AnninCa, she does not deserve it and offers valuable comments here.
So chill. Go take a walk or something. then come back when your misplaced anger is gone.
We are all going to defeat Obama…with the help of idiotic trolls like lars and agnes, little debbie, UBM, etc.
I’m certainly doing my part, Doc.
Latest nationals polls…
Pew Research: OBAMA +14
Gallup (Expanded): OBAMA +10
Zogby: OBAMA +8
Gallup (Traditional): OBAMA +7
Hotline/FD: OBAMA +6
Rasmussen: OBAMA +4
Notice a trend, Dr. Kate?
Yes, this year communist/marxist theory and anti~American/anti~white/anti~Semitic sentiment is all the rage~~~and Barack Hussein Obama is bringing it to the masses.
The same media that gave ‘W’ a pass is now giving a pass to a man who is even less qualified to govern as president than ‘W’ was/is. And just like ‘W’, the only positive about all of this, is that we will be able to point to all the idiots who supported this friend~to~terrorists and say, “I told you so”. Cold comfort indeed. But at lest we will know that we did everything we could to open people’s eyes to this domestic danger.
Nance, go back to DU where you belong.
An excerpt from your piece published on DU Oct. 20, 2008:
Despite all of the current (and downright pitiable) rhetoric, the truth is that on their best day, the Republican Party could not have sired a son like Barrack Obama, no less raised him to manhood.
In the midst of their hatred and bigotry, they could not have nurtured his sense of equality, nor his hunger for true justice – not for the few, but for all. In their desperate need to cling to ignorance, they could not have taught him to become a seeker of the truth, a man whose moral compass is a reality rather than a meaningless talking point to be trotted out when convenient.
he sproutingly–many of us have changed after we stopped drinking the koolaid.
And like many, we are not afraid to admit it.
Too bad the resto of the obots haven’t stopped guzzling the koolaid.
So what are you saying? Are you saying that
-Anti-Constitutionalism
-Marxism
-Racism
-Thugocracy
-Fairness Doctrine
-Unilateral Disarmament
-Appeasement
are things that only the Right oppose?
Are you saying that those things typify the full spectrum of the Left?
I disagree. In my old quaint understanding of this country… Marxism was Anti-American not Anti-Right.
Shutting down political discourse was an attack on the Bill of Rights.. not a cause for the Left to rally around.
Some corners of the Left have made it perfectly clear to everyone… if Conservatives take a position on an issue, then they will take the opposite stand.. no matter what.
And so , somehow, things like fighting Jihad have become a “Conservative” issue. Why the hell is that? Everyone should be against Muslims bringing their nasty backward culture here and steadily and stealthy imposing it on us.. as is their religious-mandated agenda.
I resent that parts of the Left have managed to create these false dichotomies.
They are the death of this country.
Thanks Vince,
Well stated.
Here, here!!!
VINCE –
YOU SHOULD BE WRITING ON NO QUARTER – NOT WELL SAID – …PERFECTLY SAID…PERFECT.
AnninCa
Neither are yours. You can choose then what to read, where to go. don’t think you can fool us. You might not be a troll, but you are one different and disharmonious drum here affecting the beat here.
Sorry.
Hmmm – Let’s see AnninCA –
Marxist corrupt passive agressive lying thug who plans on leading the U.S. to the One World Order vs. Democracy –
Yeah – I PICK DEMOCRACY…I PICK JOHN MCCAIN.
It REALLY is that simple.
I agree with you completely. He was hammered no matter what he did and therefore never completed with any path he took. If he looses he should go down looking like he was fighting.
Completely disagree with you. McCain has run a decent campaign. He is running as a Republican in a time when Republicans are extremely unpopular; he’s running against a candidate with a huge war chest (a significant amount of which is from undisclosed sources); and he is also running against the media, who have given up their role of reporting the facts and are instead an extension of the Obama campaign. The only real surprise here is why McCain isn’t trailing by 15%.
Yes, I agree with you. McCain is running the “Officer and Gentleman” campaign while Obama runs the campaign of a Chicago thug. Obama said they would bring a gun to a knife fight in this campaign so McCain better get his big guns out NOW!!!
I don’t understand McCain. He won’t use Rev. Wright and now you’re saying he won’t use the “Whitey” tape. He needs to use both or he is not going to win. The Media is already blaming McCain for a Nasty campaign, so he should go all the way. Americans have the right to know what the Obama’s really believe. Where are the 527’s – they are the ones that should be putting this stuff out. I’m starting to think the Republicans do not want to win.
I suspect McCain has lost his nerve, remember how he froze up and started stuttering when a older woman was begging him to go after Obama?
Its clear from that and other instances where people were begging McCain to attack Obama that McCain doesn’t have the stomach for a fight.
And if he is restraining the 527’s(which I suspect given how silent they are) he deserves to lose.
absurd….
You just are right-wing.
I can only reassert that all the stories, even on NQ over the birth certificate, the whitey tapes, etc.
You could easily drive me away if I didn’t decide you were just a bunch of tin-foil nutcases.
I’m not interested in radical right thinking.
I’m not “right wing” and although I’m sure you find your stance commendable, I really do believe we deserve to know everything about our leaders.
“LIBERTY CANNOT BE PRESERVED WITHOUT A GENERAL KNOWLEDGE AMONG THE PEOPLE, WHO HAVE A RIGHT, AN INDISPUTABLE, UNALIENABLE, INDEFEASIBLE, DIVINE RIGHT TO THAT MOST DREADED AND ENVIED KIND OF KNOWLEDGE, I MEAN THE CHARACTERS AND CONDUCT OF THEIR RULERS.”
JOHN ADAMS.
So if such a tape exists, we the people have every right to hear and make our own decisions. There is a lawsuit in regards to a birth certificate, what is so hard about producing the certificate? We the people have every right to know such things.
Bev,
Great quote!
I am sometimes literally “awed” by the great wisdom which was laid down over two hundred years ago and still applies DIRECTLY to our situation.
I am seeing the Declaration and the Constitution more and more, each day, as a letter from the wisest father to his children. A permanent missive intended to protect and guide, firm in its foundation, based on real truth.
The founding fathers thought this through so clearly.
How, so long ago, they could anticipate problems and provide concrete answers to issues that we face is amazing in a way and just plain obvious in another.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident…” is something this nation has forgotten to a degree I never thought possible.
When McCain wins, we must get back to those two documents.
Beautiful quote of John Adams.
The wisdom of the founders shines through this Obama demagoguery. Thanks Beverly!
Excellent Quote bl!
<blockquote>“LIBERTY CANNOT BE PRESERVED WITHOUT A GENERAL KNOWLEDGE AMONG THE PEOPLE, WHO HAVE A RIGHT, AN INDISPUTABLE, UNALIENABLE, INDEFEASIBLE, DIVINE RIGHT TO THAT MOST DREADED AND ENVIED KIND OF KNOWLEDGE, I MEAN THE CHARACTERS AND CONDUCT OF THEIR RULERS.”
JOHN ADAMS.
A copy of this quote should be sent to every media “personality” (Note, I didn’t call them journalist – because they are far from true professionals.) that dares to open their mouth and comment (Note, I didn’t say report because that would imply objectivity.) on this election.
If you’re so easily “driven away”, you must be absolutely HORRIFIED and repulsed at the criminal tactics being employed by rabid Obots–vandalism, theft, assault, harassment etc.
So when’s the part where you leave, Ann? Quit being such a tease and just make good on your promises, promises.
You just don’t get it. Our generation has not seen men like McCain in the public spotlight. He is all about honor. A man NEVER questions another man’s honor. It is the worst of insults. The man in question will always show himself for who he really is, there is no need for McCain stoop that low.
I really want McCain to win this election. The country needs him, this is his time. But, I have long since believed that he might be too honorable to play this political game.
I agree with you, Shannon. I also want to add that as a Hillary supporter supporting the GOP for the first time in my life I am tired of reading complaints about the campaign that John McCain is running. Considering the state of the country after eight years of Bush, is it any surprise that he is trailing in the polls? Yes, Obama is a nightmare candidate. But people are fed up. I believe that McCain is the ONLY person the Republicans could have nominated with the proverbial snowball’s chance in hell of winning. I’m not convinced that the nuclear option (attacks-wise) would convert voters who are undecided at this point. I suspect the economy is the way to their votes. I’m worried, too. But John McCain should not be blamed if (God forbid), he loses. The blame for that belongs in the White House.
So true Andrew. Sometimes it’s hard to see the forest for all the trees.
~”Iam tired of reading complaints about the campaign that John McCain is running.”~
And it isn’t a new complaint, these same words were applied to Senator Hillary Clinton; she “lost” because she ran a bad campaign. Totally forgetting that they disenfranchised two states and stole votes from other candidates to put Soertoro/Obama out front.
Yeah C.S.,
agree with you. Same BS from BO. “Oh, they’re being mean to me”– at the same time he is running the ugliest campaign imagineable.
The 527 groups are supposed to be totally independent from the campaigns, and they can lose their ability to operate if they are found to be accepting orders or directions from the campaign. Their very legal structural basis provides plausible deniability to McCain, and he should not be telling them what they should do or should not do. In any event, he can cite the legal requirement that he has nothing to do with their actions, and he can even denounce their ads if he sees an advantage to doing so.
Wasn’t McCain responsible for the legislation setting down these rules?
The 527’s can act on their own. They didn’t listen to him in 2004, so why have they started now?
Revising history is awesome. Let me try.
The reason Hillary lost was not because, like John McCain she ran an inept campaign that showed her to lack leadership abilities, but because the Obama forces secretly trained an elite force of dinosaurs to be able to sense and consume Clinton supporters. Why won’t the liberal media talk about the Obama dinosaur story??
Unfortunately, I feel that McCain has no choice but to ask that the “Whitey Tape” be supressed. If the tape leaked and then word got out that McCain knew about it beforehand, the outrage would not be about the tape. The outrage would be about McCain being a racist and he would be depicted as someone who encouraged racism and hatred of Black Americans. Or something.
It’s bizarro-world in this election. It really is.
Having said that, I’m disappointed in any journalist who might have the tape or have first-hand evidence of it, such as having viewed it themselves. Their job is to release information that is pertinent to the public. I don’t consider the existence of a “Whitey Tape,” if there is one, to be “classified.” It’s not the same as, say, military secrets. A future first lady ranting on about ANYTHING of socio-political significance is pertinent.
I am for all practical purposes, a white woman. However, I have an Asian last name because I married outside of my race. On my family tree, if you go back several generations, there is a branch that is Black. Granted, it’s laughable to say out loud that I’m “1/64th Black” and expect that it means anything to anyone, but my point is that both by blood and by choices I accept the value of all who make up our great country and you’d NEVER catch me disparaging an entire race based on stereotypes. I HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW, dear journalists, if this woman, Mrs. Obama, who wants to represent me on the world stage as First Lady, holds herself to the same standard.
STFW! WTF cares anymore? THis is so ridiculous, an AA women hates white people and the person running for POTUS is afraid to bring it to the public attention because he would be racist? Are you kidding me with this logic? This is asinine. We need to know if the potential first lady hates white people or not.
Thanks to this election I no longer look at AA’s the same way. Ever time I look at an AA I have to wonder if they are race baiters – every single time now. I was never like that. And I will tell you also I now look down at every single liberal feminist (many were my friends). There deserve to be treated like 2nd class citizens they act like. It is amazing with 9 months can do to someone.
If you are calling me asinine, you misunderstand my post.
I followed that statement with: It’s bizarro-world in this election. I.e., crazy, backwards, upside down. Twilight Zone. Bizarre.
Have you been paying attention to the MSM at all? And who they give credence to? I know most of us here try to avoid the MSM, but you and I both know that if the Whitey Tape were released — again, if it exists, that is — the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons of the world would be denoucing the use of the tape and anybody who gave the tape a second thought would be branded a racist. The outrage would be manipulated to land in the wrong spot.
Having said that, I would like such a tape released. I think I also made that clear in my original post.
The things holding back the Republicain party are those you just mentioned. Al Sharpton, Rev Jesse Jackson, NAACP exc…
The problem I see here is that there is no one looking out for everyone else, only the AAs. In a way we fear them and in that perspective try to not do things to call controversey upon ourselves. Many fear being called a racist or a KKK member. If society allows itself to be controlled by a certain race or culture then they are equally to blame. We should not have to fear playing a tape with racist comments. If the individual is truely saying such things it should be shown and no excuses made for it. If the situation were reversed there would be no hesitation.
It was a general pissed off rant to everyone who is saying McCain would be racists for exposing a racist.
and i say….if there is a tape….quit comparing michelle to jackie kennedy will ya? i wouldn’t want her in the white house with a mouth like that…. one she could not keep zipped….she isn’t anything close to jackie never was………………….with or without a whitey tape
The media is not going to release something that would change the election. I remember when Libby Dole begged the Washington Post not to release the story that Bob Dole had cheated on her and because it was essentially the eve of the elections, the Post sat on the story.
rwc…..and you know this HOW? Are you a friend of McCain’s, that you can tell us he is afraid? Doesn’t have the stomach for it? What?
I seem to remember a post by Larry some time back where he talked about the whitey tape and other really damning stuff McCain and the republicans had on 0bama.
In the post Larry said something about: if McCain’s internals look really good going into election day, then they’ll probably lay off using the controversial stuff – somebody correct me if I’m wrong on that.
Anyway, maybe them deciding to lay off means that McCain’s internals are a lot better than America is being led to believe by the media and the pollsters – kell surpreeze there – and maybe he’s looking good going into November 4.
I’m really encouraged by Joe the Plumber’s 58% approval rating – I commented about this on another thread – and I’m thinking that the 58% for Joe the Plumber may be really close to what McCain’s internals are showing, contrary to the fortysomething percent fed us by the crap media and the crap polls. NOBODY who’s voting for 0bama is gonna like Joe the Plumber – nobody – and I think most of the 58% have gotta be McCain voters or potential McCain voters.
58% would translate into a 16 point win for McCain – which ain’t gonna happen, of course. But it all makes me encouraged that McCain’s support is a lot stronger and larger than we’re being told.
or maybe it was just the start of a lame excuse because they knew they never had anything and it was a lie all along
The thing about your post is:
It’s NOT doubting that Michelle would go on a nasty racist rant.
You know as well as everyone else that she would and she probably has.
The only thing you’re claiming is a lie is that it was VIDEOTAPED – or maybe you’re not even doubting that – maybe you know it was videotaped but you don’t believe it made it into republican hands.
She hasn’t. You people are insane.
Hope the tape ends up at Fox,in Sean Hannity’s hands…I could see where he’d probable enjoy destroying Obama.imo….If Michelle,said those words,shows she’s just as racist.imo
Mccain/Palin
I hope it ends up in Pastor Manning’s hands, because he would not only not fear to use it, he would have some amazing commentary on it too.
At least it would be a good show.
Barack Obama really is a disgruntled plumber from Ohio. lol rofl
LOL…I liked that too.
You’ve gotta be kidding me, Larry.
The McCain campaign has a game-winner in hand and they’ve “requested that it not be used”???
My God, do they think that it’s somehow nobler to go down to defeat and not let the tape see the light of day rather than use it and prevent a pseudo-Marxist like Barack Obama from gaining the White House???
One can only hope that if the tape does indeed exist (And to be honest, this sounds an awful lot to me like a cover story that someone’s putting out to to cover up the fact that it doesn’t.) wiser heads within the McCain campaign will prevail and will release it.
Does anyone think for one second that if McCain were leading by 3-4 points with two weeks left to go and the Democrats came across a videotape of Cindy McCain going off on a rant against black people that they wouldn’t use it?
C’mon John!!! The future of this country is at stake here!!!
Your idea of a game-changer would, indeed, change my vote.
I will not vote for McCain if he plays the race card.
End of story.
I will abandon his campaign in a heartbeat.
It’s irresponsible. It’s wrong. It’s against all my principles.
Use it……lose me.
Race card? Obama and Michelle are the racists here darlin.
Get that straight.
And if exposing a black female David Duke offends you so be it.
The GOP doesn’t need the vote of people who support racists and Marxists.
Anninca…is from California…Nuff said…lol
I was raised in the 1950’s in the South, you nitwit.
I’m not a CA nuteater.
Pay attention.
There are many voters like me. We’ll not vote for McCain if there’s even a sniff of racism.
We are opposed, and it’s good that we’re opposed.
We are truly, truly not racist.
And we dont support Obama.
Don’t blow it.
Ehemmm…This nitwit is at least FREE OF CRACKER GUILT AND HAS A SPINE…LOL…
BTW have you read any of the legal papers on Berg’s lawsuit?
Anything on Black Liberation Theology?
Or is all you care about is Taxes and Public schools…AnnnCA…
Currently in this country everyone has the right to have and freely express an opinion…and mine is that every once n a while you expose the fact that you are a SNOB…Ooops! how very nitwit workingclass racist clingy catholic bitter yada yada yada of me!
Not voting for McCain (unfortunately in our system) is the same thing as voting for Obama. So you’ll vote for the Marxist. is that it?
My God.. some people. [Restraining from making this personal]
So you’re saying if the tape gets played you are going to blame McCain even though he said not to play the tape?
You do understand that McCain doesn’t control or own the tape?
If the tape gets played it will not be McCain fault.
McCain will not use the race card.
He is an honorable man from an ear when chivalry wasn’t entirely dead.
It is time we revive the honor system. Barack Obama has no honor nor would he understand the concept if it were presented to him with pictures.
Barack Obama is a creature of convenience and will use or abuse anything or anyone to get what he wants.
He supports failed ideaologies–I stood at the foot of the Berlin wall as it opened. A testimony to the failure of re-distribution and state planned economies.
John McCain is our best hope.
So your sensibilities are more important to you than what might happen if BadRock gets into the WH?
You’re okay with an international crisis designed to test BadRock’s mettle, okay with inflation/recession, okay with a female draft, okay with the misogyny and the voter fraud…..just as long as you don’t have to smell any racism (regardless of the fact that it doesn’t exist on the R side and BadRock and Michelle have been race baiting all along)
Good to know where you stand, Annie.
But it’s ok that OBoBo plays the race card every chance he can get? OK Next!
We don’t care if you’re from Timbuktu. You sound like you eat granola, and you claim to be voting in a state that will 99% likely go blue. Don’t threaten McCain supporters with your vote as if it or your opinion here matters. “Undecideds” don’t attack people for being “right wing,” either. You’re BORING.
I truly don’t know what purpose you are serving with your comments today. The people who are commenting and expressing their opinion have no control over 527’s or John McCain’s own campaign decision. It really does not matter whether you vote for McCain or not…because your state will go to Obama. John McCain has never made race a factor in this campaign…but Obama & Co. certainly have. Who are all of these people you are speaking for and in which states do they reside? They have obviously not been exposed to the onslaught of misleading negative ads from the Obama camp, as well as the race-baiting every time someone criticizes their candidate.
I was raised in former USSR and emigrated in
USA because I wanted live in freedom. Socialism is a prison. Obama’s “change” speech – nothing new(BS). You can find many of them in Soviet school textbook for 5-grades.
About racism – I was so surpised to find real racism – black. I don’t have “white guilt” and don’t care if somebody will call me racist I’ll not vote for empty suit.
You said it MYdress!
Hey! I’m from California. McCain doesn’t have a chance of getting AnninCA’s vote so just ignore her.
Not to me.
I will vote for Obama if McCain or the Republicans pull any race shenanigans.
I promise that.
I am voting for McCain on his record of compromise, his integrity in this election, and the HOPE that Republicans can be changed.
I do not respect their past. I do not go along with any of the radical right rants.
I will not vote for McCain if I smell he’s leaning that way.
That’s a promise.
I am voting Republican for the first time in my life because I trust that he’s more honorable than that.
All this baloney that I see posted by the nutcases puts me off. The ONLY reason it hasn’t pushed me away from McCain is because I’m sure it’s fringe element thinking.
There are nuts in our world. Can’t escape them.
And computers are cheap.
But if I see the actual Republican party going that way?
I’m so outta there, the wind will slam the door.
I am disgusted with Democrats. If I’m disgusted with Republicans, too?
Well, then…….I’ll be one who really does just stay home and let YOU be responsible.
I won’t even participate.
Are you going to ping pong to each side each time your sensibilities are offended? Childish and niave if you ask me, this is the real world and if you didn’t realize during the primaries when Hillary was savaged, that life is all about survival of the fittest, you didn’t learn much. Everyone wants to be honorable but sometimes you have to get in the mud with the pigs otherwise your survival is not guaranteed. Just watch the Oblah campaign, they are very good at getting in the dirt, splashing around and inflicting harm and they will do whatever it takes to win. Open your eyes
LOL, wow, you are an idiot. If that is your moronic train of thought, just go ahead vote for Obama. If exposing Obama and his associates and family causes you to actually vote for Obama, then you aren’t really planning on voting for McCain anyway.
Talk about idiotic logic.
Yes, Anninca
please decide
that you will vote for Obama
and just leave us here
The whiff of racism is too strong
for you I fear, and your nose
is far too sensitive….
Yes, this drama is tedious. Enough already. Vote for whoever you darn well please.
Do you pout and stamp your widdle foot, too?
LOL…YO BUZZ…too funny…
I agree too. While I’m a registered Dem, I’m actually proud of the Republicans for avoiding anything having to do with race. I think it is worth it to take the high road on issues like that. I think the way to go is just having someone like Palin or Giuliani mention that they don’t know how Obama can say he sat in Wright’s church for 20 years and never heard anything controversial and that he isn’t being truthful.
ann under your reasoning you should already be voting for mac by default since Obummer played the race card on Hillary and BIg Dwg and KY WVA PA OH TX etc all thru the primaries
please give it a rest
you must think very highly of yourself
threatening to bolt if you sniff racism?????
WTF???? is that how you BOLTED when the DEMS started throwing it around FIRST AND ALMOST ALWAYS????
get a grip
it’s NOT all equal treatment here
and most don’t give a flying fig what YOU do personally and I don’t think anyone even asked?
you really think highly of yourself don’t you?
soapbox annie
yawn
I know right?
She’s become very annoying.
You hold the republicans to standards you apparently do not hold the obamacrats to.
What does the “and computers are cheap” mean, Ann? I’m dense…
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Sounds like the tiniest, teeniest hint of possible, maybe, racism and you’re ready to toss McCain out. But you haven’t applied the same logic to the Soertoro/Obamas’s own brand of racism because there is more than a hint, it’s more of a Grand Canyon full of bigotry, anti-Semitism and violence against critics you’re ignoring here.
annin, what can you be smoking? to even consider voting for obama says to me you aren’t thinking clearly. sorry but that’s my thought. obama has race baited all throught the primaries and now. he and his wife hate white people. i don’t know your race or care. it doesn’t matter, people like that should NEVER EVER BE IN POSITIONS OF POWER NO MATTER WHAT RACE THEY ARE OR DON’T LIKE.
well, then do it and quit talking about it. It’s evident to me that you are looking for a reason to NOT vote for McCain and saying if he uses race will do it. Unbelievable after all of the crap Obama and his thugs throw around.
Please AninCA
Join the Peace Corps.
Maybe you can then be at peace with your ideas
I’m voting for McCain because I believe Obama is a THREAT to our democracy! I don’t think you can get any more basic than that!
If that isn’t important to you, I can’t help you.
You are kidding right? Obama has played the race card ad nauseum since the beginning of his campaign and you would call McCain racist if this tape comes out? I knew you vacillated all the time, but now your true colors are out there. Go ahead and vote for Obama if you want. Your reasoning on the tape thing is beyond ludicrous. You messed up and spilled the beans that you are a bona fide OBOT. We know the zombie obots are voting for Obama so it’s ok. Don’t you feel better that you finally admitted the truth? Too funny.
rwc,
You are right on that one. The one thing the Whitey tape will show is that you do not have to be white to be a racist. You dont have to be a Mccain supporter to be a racist. No race is better then any other in their racist views of the others.
If a white man had said what Michelle has suppossedly said he would be crucified, lose his job and forced to publicly apploigize. When its the Obamas however we will just hide it under the rug.
It is not playing the race card to point out Barack Obama’s associations with people who appear to
despise Whites and the American system. That’s like saying it would be playing the race card to inform AAs that a particular candidate wanting their vote has had associations with White Supremecists. So, don’t vote for McCain
if this kind of discussion turns you off, but please avoid mischaracterizing it.
I don’t take direction from others about what I participate in discussing. I think the association aspect of this blog is missing the point.
The point is that nobody really knows what Obama will do when faced with real presidential decision.
He’s a “present” voter. A cardboard character.
That’s his danger.
Obviously many people don’t care about his “present” voting otherwise he wouldn’t have gotten so far and this race wouldn’t be so close. Of course it matters and is hugely important, but how can the regular voting public understand the importance when the media covers for him and he lies about his “present” votes.
If that is all Mccain uses, he’s not winning.
Obama reversed his position on every promise he made during the primaries, he had pledged to take public financing and signed his name to it. If he had kept that pledge he would not so far ahead in the polls. national polling indicates that over 80% of the public are opposed to the concept of redistribution of wealth. If McCain hammers Obama with this maybe he can eke out a victory. Unfortunately there appears to be rampant voter fraud, especially with early voting. AnninCA if Mccain loses your vote do you intend to vote for Obama? I agree that the promises Obama makes now have little chance of materialising when he is POTUS.
He has MANY scary things about him soapbox annie
please don’t be so smug
it’s really unattractive
a little direction wouldn’t hurt you at all
and btw, it’s not all about you
and it surely isn’t all about what YOU DEEM important!
get a grip
lol…as anninCA’s officially designated nit wit…I agree with you Dawnelle
and this Nit wit has a cracker guilt free spine
lol
a bit of an attention getter
shades of troll?
That’s what I tell Ron Paul supporters all the time when they feel they have to be “true to themselves”. oh puh-leez.
LOL @ “soapbox annie,” Dawnelle.
annin, you are missing the point. you choose to ignore obama’s race baiting and threaten to key haul mccain if he doesn’t play all soft and gooie while obama knocks him around. race hatred from ANY SOURCE IS WRONG AND TO REWARD OBAMA MAKES YOU WRONG.
That’s his danger.
That’s not his only danger, but evidently it is more dangerous to you to support some perceived “racism” ( never mind that B and M have been race baiting the whole time) than to prevent the country from going over a cliff.
Yes I was over at the
ChicagoPolitical Machine at AOL and I think it was Tommy Christopher trying to associate John McCaine with David Duke because they happened to be at the Senate the same day. John went to something for MLK and precious didn’t but somehow John didn’t hold his mouth right and he was the bad guy once again.We voters have been accused of racism over and over and over. John and Sarah have been trashed on everything. Joe the plumber has too. Yet the true racist Barack and Michelle Obama get a pass. This offends me. No matter what race you are it should offend you as well.
“Knowledge is the first thing eradicated once power is attained. History has repeated this over and over again.” Steve Berry in “The Alexandria Link”
We see knowledge suppression daily from the MSM and it will be put in effect by the Fairness Doctrine that Polosi is pushing, should Obama be elected.
Whatever John decides is ok by me. I prefer it to come out in a 527, but I do want it to come out.
If you are so shallow that the truth offends you, Obama will fix you right up with honeyed lies. Go to the far left and volunteer.
Make no doubt about it we are at war for America’s Freedom. In battle if you don’t have a gun you grab a rolling pin.
John McCain would get down in the trenches and fight side by side with us. Sarah would too. It is my opinion that Barack Obama would sneak out in the night and hand the keys to the enemy.
You own your vote and we own ours.
McCain/Palin
How is that playing the race card? It seems to me it is playing the “truth card.” Dont’ try to pull that racism crap here, it won’t wash. I am sick of being called a racist.
Great point. That’s what we really need. THE TRUTH about Obama!
Loosing your vote to McCain would be worth it for playing the tape.
Bye
But you will not vote for Obama for playing the race card?
Just this weekend Joe Biden said the McCain camp was using a racist subliminal message when he said Osama’s tax plan was welfare. Not sure how that is racist but it came right from the lips of the VP nominee.
And you think they are not racist?
Annin is a troll. please ignore it.
So then you would not be able to vote for no one in this election. All Obama’s campaign does is CONSTANTLY use the race card. Plus they’ve attacked and smeared a private citizen who dared ask a question (Joe the Plumber).
I meant to say “would not be able to vote for ANYone”.
AnninCA –
If there were a tape on a rant such as this, you are saying that TRUTH should be CENSORED from the American public.
WOW – Maybe you should go ahead and change your vote now – because you fit right in with that MARXIST OBAMA crowd. You really do.
Hey BTW as an afterthought: If BOs grandma was so sick for the last couple of weeks why did he not suspend his campaign and go to her before she was released from the hospital. To me this is backwards. Not once was there even mention of her being sick until she was sent home.
I think BO is trying to figure out a way to make this BC thing go away. Granny is just a good excuse to fly to Hawaii.
Also they are saying she is 86 on the news. Did BO not say she was 93? I swear I heard him say this.
I definitely agree that Barky is using his grandma as an excuse to go to Hawaii. He is scared, because Andy Martin went to the Supreme Court about his birth certificate.
Andy Martin has asked the Hawaii Supreme Court to issue emergency writ opening secret Obama birth files.
Oh goodness, gracious.
You’re nuts.
You’re the one that is totally nuts. I’m starting to believe you are an astroturfer, that’s how absolutely insane your logic sounds.
since so many comments upset you ann, why not pass on reading them chickie?
LOL
ya he/she/it challenged my assessment of the Ohio person Brunner who has caused so much partisan problems with the voting in Ohio with her “procedures”
Wonder why Barack made the statement that he was glad “they” were in charge of the electronic voting machines in Ohio?
no it’s true
and I believe the saying goes
“takes one to know one soapbox annie”
think about it
hmm, and you quickly revert to name calling when someone disagrees with you. how quaint is that!
You finally starting to realize what this blog is about, AnninCA?
You see now?
Remember, his mom had ovarian cancer. Horrible disease. He was registering people to vote and never said goodbye. It does seem odd that he would go to a summit with Richardson on the panel if his grandmother is gravely ill.
Obama has not displayed much interest in his white side of the family, as far as I can see. He did not bother to visit his mother when she was fatally ill with cancer. He apparently thinks of his grandmother as “a typical white person” because she is afraid of black men on the street after a homeless black man hassled her at a bus stop.
Let me tell you this. I worked in a black neighborhood with black ladies. They were more afraid of the street people than I was.
Use the damn tape ..the future of the greatest country on earth is at stake here..I do not want to be a socialist…it’s hard enough being a capitalist with the market the way it is… I’ m old enough and smart enough to take care of myself and I do not want the government involved in my life any more..Washington gave us the plastic Jesus…how bright are they???/
If you have the tapes flaunt them……time is a running out!!!
And as much as McCain may protest I think he will overlook others who us the tape to get him elected president…
Sow Baby Show
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I was thinking about something. You know how Biden made those remarks the other day about a crisis happening within the first six months of Obama’s election? Maybe its a Constitutional crisis, like finally finding out he isn’t a US born citizen or dual citizen. That’s why his supporters would have to stand by him!
Obama also stated the other day down here in Florida that people should go out and vote early because you never know what is going to happen. What did he mean by that? I remember thinking that was such a strange statement.
Bidens comments are just plain strange. I have thought this from the beginnig when he was saying Hillary would be the better VP vhoice. It almost is as if he wants to sabatoge BO.
The only way after the election that the BC issue can be taken care of is with impeachment unless they do it before he is sworn in. I still think this is unfair since every other person in the USA has to prove we are citizens other wise we are a terrorist threat. Why is the same not done for the elected officials of this country.
This picture of Joe Biden looking at Obama is revealing. He looks like he has nothing but contempt for him.
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080829/i/r3654586364.jpg?x=400&y=294&q=85&sig=4xBkKzZi.2JSLkZvkxE5RA–
Bidens comments are just plain strange. I have thought this from the beginnig when he was saying Hillary would be the better VP choice. It almost is as if he wants to sabatoge BO.
The only way after the election that the BC issue can be taken care of is with impeachment unless they do it before he is sworn in. I still think this is unfair since every other person in the USA has to prove we are citizens other wise we are a terrorist threat. Why is the same not done for the elected officials of this country.
Alice, you raise some interesting points. But I kind of think that Biden was just being sloppy with his words, as he often is. He did specify “international crisis,” which would seem to indicate some trouble coming from abroad.
Your second point, about O advsing his followers to “vote early because you never know what is going to happen,” is truly puzzling. What an enigma he is. Everything is sure up in the air, isn’t it? In a time of great uncertainty, the country seems ready to take the “leap of faith,” from the frying pan into the fire.
Thanks for clarifing about International, I didn’t remember that.
Nothing surprises me anymore. I can’t believe that BO has even made it this far with his history.
Bill Clinton is also telling people to vote early… and telling them to vote quickly as they have monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday etc. to vote before voting day…
And he said he was there because Hillary asked him. He also said Palin has just the same if not more experience than Barack Obama and that she is very smart.
Bill is no fool – just wish he would come out and say what he obviously knows. Of course that would mean he really is a racist.
The whole obama campaign is unbelievable – why Americans actually have fallen for this and what it can actually mean for the future is Orwellian.
Well, if RObamaHood was born in Kenya or was a citizen of Indonesia, then he really is “trouble coming from abroad.”
I just read that with only two weeks left until the election, Biden has no public appearance scheduled. They are punishing him for his mistake and are trying to do damage control. I think the cat is out of the bag now. Too late.
I just read on cannonfire.blogspot.com that Joe Biden is having an affair.
In my tin foil hat world, the MSM exposes it before the election, Biden steps down and Bambi picks Hillary as the VP. Bambi is elected and then exposed, has to step down and Hillary is POTUS.
I know…dream on…
It is my understanding that if Obama is found not to be eligible, then Biden “would be fruit of the poison tree” (from another NQ poster) It is my understanding that the DNC can put anyone they want in Obama’s place. How do you spell Polosi? She is only two places away from President now. shudder.
They maybe would choose Hillary, but the powers that be hate her.
IT’s true!!! Biden is madly in love….with the sound of his own voice.
I never felt Biden and BO worked as a team, especially when you compare them McCain/Palin. From early on, it seemed as though BO kept Biden at a distance.
I think Biden was saying that BO can’t keep his campaign promises (getting out of Iraq, healthcare, etc) by saying that if BO’s decisions are popular then they will not be sound.
I think he’s also warning that when BO is tested, he will have to reinstitute the draft or create a military service requirement when he talks about the weakness in the military, which would also be very unpopular.
Makes sense
I think the WH briefing both campaigns had suggested to Joe somehting will go down adn Joe having to look like the omniscent brilliant one, promised it would,
I think Joe expects Iran to strike Israel and he further expects Obummer to do nothing to help except negotiate a new Palestinian border after the fact
yep
but no worries MAC/PALINwill be sworn in as 44 and VEEP 44
but the way ACORN is shaking out, i expect protracted legal battles see OH NC MO MI VA where OPbummer is stealing votes..so it may be a slightly delayed swearing in while Obummer uses the Odinga playbook for how to threaten your way to power
of course Obummer will find in a strong Consitutional Republic like ours, the Odinga playbook doesnt work
then MAC/PALIN will be sworn in
W00T!!
BOOYAH!!
Thanks Larry for the post…Your opinion is always interesting.
I am not a lawyer but I have been the victim of this admissions discovery thing that Berg is talking about.
It is fundamental…If you don’t respond to the admission as Berg states you in effect throw the case to the other side.
I a custody case ( the 4th brought by my kids father because I had gone to the Atty. Gen. about back child support ) This standard list of admissions ( the questions vary according to the case ) was given to my lawyer.
It is fundamental first year law school stuff…Aaaand my lawyer ( who was moving offices at the time ) never gave me these questions…in fact at the next hearing he blanched when confronted by both the opposing lawyer and ME in the lobby outside the courtroom…and QUIT as my lawyer on the SPOT!…The judge rescheduled the hearing as I was a basket case and had no idea what was going
on…
I went through the phone book trying to get another lawyer…Finally a friend of my mother’s explained to me just how badly my lawyer had screwed up and that this was why I couldn’t find another lawyer to take my case. In fact this lawyer told me I had a duty to repor this Atty. to the Bar Assoc. for making such a fundamental and classic error…He effectively lost my case by not responding to the admissions…
That’s why I say DISCOVERY IS A BITCH!
Now in my case I got instruction on how to amend the admissions and basically plead on bended knee to the MERCY of the Court. Because I was Poor and in the position I was as well as the nature of the case…The Judge took pity on me and did what I was told was a rare thing..He was judicious and granted my petition. But I’m a civilian…
Soeterobama is a constitutional legal expert with the DNC Lawyers behind him. I doubt the Judge will grant the same mercy…We shall see…But from what I was told there is no excuse for inaction barring an act of GOD i.e, earth quake…etc…It is just Gross Negligence according to the Lawyer who helped me…
BTW…I retained custody of the kid who is 18 now..and her Dad had to pay back some of the back support…Not what was owed but at least some of it.
I would expose his behind (Obama) and his wife all day. When you have a spade or Joker in a spades game to win the game, you play the sucker. Period. McCain is right, he is not Bush or Rove. They would have played this along time ago. This ain’t even a Kerry issue.
I believe that they will play it, but they wanted to appear to not be racist. heck Obama has not kept his promises, why should McCain be honorable.
Burn baby Burn.
I think the goal has been to keep Obama just below 50 throughout the whole election. The internal polling likely has them tied or McCain slightly ahead. It is encouraging that Palin has been in CO and NM while McCain will be in PA. I think McCain is holding a royal flush, and it’s not the tape. He will win.
I think it’s pretty clear that the grandmother story is a hoax and he’s going to Hawaii to try to straighten out this BC thing. How sad that Obama thinks he is above our Constitution. But from what I have noticed this election most people don’t seem to care much for America, our freedoms, our Constitution, etc. if they are voting for Obama. I mean, there should be plain OUTRAGE that his close confidant and mentor is standing on the American Flag. But I guess America is just trash to these people. Very sad indeed. After Biden’s freaky speech about America facing some bizarre situation in six months after Obama is elected, etc. these are very scary times for us. I hope that anyone with business, money and families to protect will leave the country. It’s the only way to say that either we live in America, as AMERICA or someone else can pay for all of Obama’s costly, insane spending programs, etc. and live in the dangerous, unsafe, defenseless America he wants.
You Betcha!…Andy Martin has an emergency petition slated for release of records on the 22nd.
He’s using freedom o the press as his argument…and he claims injury as a journalist…lol..Could work…I mean isn’t that how we got the Pentagon Papers ?
He also sez that barky gives up right to privacy cause he posted the COLB on the web…It’s goin to be interestink…I think the count is now at 4 BC law suits in 4 states….Barky has some splainin to do…and apparently a good deal of flying…lol
offtopic, but hilarious or maybe not…
Goldfish Registered to Vote in Illinois (AP/Yahoo)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_st_lo/voter_registration_goldfish
I’m sure it has an absentee ballot too. And they probably registered it in several other states as well.
I thought it was a dead goldfish…
Dead goldfish get to vote twice in Illinois.
what next? are they gonna get cartoon characters to vote too? this election cycle is getting ridiculous. and imagine, a fish? the messiah confirmation for obamacrats comes in here (something like Jesus). lol
did u forget he’d make us fishes of men and change water into wine or Whine even….
12 loaves and fishes he could spread that far and wide…
Was it Nemo?
lol….Fictional and a fish…yeah…it was NEMO…or maybe Nemo’s dead typical fish grandpa
What really scares me about Acorn,they are getting away with it.Do American’s need to register for every election? How does one come out of the system?
It is my understanding that the “Whitey Tape” has Michelle saying some pretty bad things about Bill Clinton. Maybe some of you think it wouldn’t be effective, but I think it would. It might make a great deal of difference to the Taylor Marsh crowd who formerly supported Hillary and are now koolaid drinkers. Saying something that awful about Bill might just piss those people off enough to either stay home or vote McCain. I am beginning to think McCain really doesn’t want to win. He doesn’t want Rev. Wright used and apparently doesn’t want this tape used. I think it is political suicide myself.
former ‘place that shall not be named’ person here, MANY of us, MOST that I know are MAC/PALIN supporters
we are in fact working HARD for MAC’PALION
just so ya know
:0)
Yup… I used to be over at Taylor Marsh and as she came out in the open for Barky – long before the writing was on the wall – I then left and found more favorable blogs… when I went back in to check out what was going on the place was full of names unrecognizable – not the same Hillary supporters – different with fake Hill names. Those people are all barck supporters from the get go as was Marsh – who just used Hill supporters to get her blog going. Faker. Notice one of the trolls is here now. enuff said.
I wondered about that — thanks Annie!
McCain does of course want to win and so does Gov Palin.
How did our culture evolve to the point of blaming the victim for not anticipating the con artist cheater’s actions with precise accuracy?
Just like Hillary was blamed for not knowing Obama and ACORN would commit caucus fraud.
Just because McCain has previously said he was not in favor of using the Wright issue at the time, does not mean it negates it’s importance. You know what Wright said,I know what Wright said.Everyone can see that Obama idolized him, and then lied about it. You don’t need John McCain to tell you that.
We also don’t need a whitey tape to prove either Obama would disrespect Bill Clinton. They already have during the primaries. Anyone who could vote for Obama was not a real Clinton supporter. As for the term itself, ‘whitey’ is used frequently by those with whom the Obama’s frequently associate, there needs to be no tape to prove their approval of the term.
An issue that seems relevant and has not been dicussed in the media at all is Obama’s Odinga connection. There are serious political maniputlations and dangerous support of Anti American policies at play there. There are documented dealings and campaign advice between them in which the end result was either Sharia Law or Genocide of African Christians. These are recent events and are startling.
OT~
In the ongoing effort to figure out WHY Obama supporters are imune to any of these facts, has anyone following the theory of conversational hypnosis found there is an atedote, so to speak. What is required to deprogram a person afflicted by this technique?
You have to make them start reflecting critically on the speech they are hearing, phrase by phrase, and objectify the meaning (that is the aim of persuasion, to convince by delivering a feeling of personal connection) so that the discourse can be exposed as illogical or trivial.
For instance, when a speaker wants to be convincing (and let’s face it, they all do this), they have to establish their authority so people will believe them. This is called pacing. Speaker says obviously true things, like “Here we are today.” This lulls the listener: yeah, yeah, here we are, true enough.
After the listener gets comfortable with the speaker and starts accepting them as worth listening to, the speaker tells them what he wants them to believe: “I will be the next President.” (inevitability is suggested to you) Or other things: “On election day, vote for me.”
If you can break into this smooth presentation like the hecklers in Florida or Joe the Plumber, it breaks the spell. This is an extra good moment to introduce critical thinking. Otherwise it’s a slog, but if he can hypnotize this way, others can use the same technique too.
NC girl, although it is tempting to get frustrated with JM, I think he knows just how much this man, BO, means to his followers. These people who have believed him are going to be devestated when they finally find out the truth about this man. JM seeks to be POTUS, and that includes Obama supportors. If he can win the race without the tape, he seeks to do that. To expose the tape w/o it being imperative may cause racial unrest in this country the likes of which we have never seen.
If push comes to shove, and this BC thing doesn’t come to fruition then we may see the RNC usurp McCain and “leak” the tape w/o McCain’s approval. one thing is for sure: thing’s should be hot and heavy in the next two weeks.
OT, I think Biden has had a meltdown, and I am not sure why, but something is amiss. He can’t bail, and BO can’t dismiss him, but no scheduled appearances for the next two weeks? BO suspended his campaign until Saturday? Very odd timing. Despite Biden saying International crisis, that does not rule out the BC being at the heart of it. If BO is not a legal citizen of the USA, then that makes him a citizen of another country, thus it is an International crisis.
None of us can do any more than speculate what he meant, but that explaination does match some of what he was saying.
You guys ever see any Espionage type thrillers where somebody inadvertently finds out more than they want to know, and then in an effort to save themselves start babbling in public and people are trying to figure out what the hell is wrong? Kindof a “The Firm” type situation. What if Biden is trying desperately to tell us something w/o saying the exact words? With all the money riding behind BO, I would be completely desperate if I were Joe Biden, knew something important, and was hoping this guy will get caught.
It’s just a thought…
But what if Joe isn’t doing any more appearances at his own behest? The Obama Camp certainly wouldn’t announce it.
Yes,your viewpoints are interesting and theory could be actual indeed.It is very strange that Biden even finished his statement by saying” I probably should not have said that ,I forgto the media is here…! Therefore bringing even more attention to what he just said.
Almost as if though he wanted the media to run with it. Hmmm
Biden’s comments were somewhat foreshadowed at the Al Smith Dinner.
Obama’s joke:
If there is a Whitey tape and the Mccain camp doesn’t use it, they are not very smart.
Wow Larry! You usually have to visit a farm for such a steaming pile. Should we file this with the COLB and “Techdude”?
Larry, I hope you love the people that post to this blog. Because after what you’ve done with your reputation, they are the only people who are going to take you seriously.
What a waste of talent.
POLARIK is the best on the phony COLB…but that’s just my opinion…WHY WON’T BARK JUST PONY UP THE RECORDS…SHOULD WOULD SAVE THE DNC MONEY…AND HELP WITH GLOBAL CLIMATE…LOL
I think if there is a tape of Michelle Obama calling white people “whitey”, it should be exposed. That is racist. If there is a telephone conversation of her admitting Obama’a Indonesian citizenship, it should be exposed. That proves Obama is ineligible to be President of the United States. It is not smear, it is a matter of right and wrong. Especially since the Obama’s want to throw the friggin’ race card so frequently. Neither of them are fit to represent or lead this great country in any way, shape or form. I felt the same way about George Bush Jr.
I am sure there is a reason why McCain is not using things like Rev. Wright against Obama and I don’t believe it’s because he has lost nerve. Are you kidding me?? He was tortured in Vietnam for 5 years. I think he and his campaign feel it would do more harm than good…you know, stoke the race fires more. We don’t need that.
Thank GOD you posted publicly about the API thing. I am so SICK of those people trying to pimp their links on my blog I have erased all links. IMO these people are looking for internet traffic for advertising. I don’t believe anything about this story and if I’m proven wrong I will be VERY surprised. The fact is, they deliberately threw a match and then ran away from their own fire. I urge everyone not to perpetuate their links. You are being used by these people to increase their own traffic.
Rule One: Don’t believe another thing they say unless you first HEAR a tape. That’s my rule and it should be yours.
It’s absurd, and frankly should be banned.
It is pushing away moderates like me.
I have NO interest in some tinfoil hat blog.
I’m already far more liberal than some here.
Heck, I even believe in public schools. *haha
I do not wish to scroll through 75% of the posts because it’s some kind of right-wing blog.
your continuing posting is the most annoying thing on NoQ.
we don’t care about your vote. and not about your opinions. get a shrink
seriously
(someone wants some attention me thinks)
AnninCA..see ya later…Love your hair, hate your shoes…lol…
does she have a bad hair day or what?!
It would be nice if you let others express their opinion without threatning to switch your vote and telling them how absurd they are. This is the first post like this in a long time, why not let the people express themselves? So what if you don’t agree, from your previous posts we Get It.
Frankly, I live in Southern California am extremely liberal and no one is going to push me to vote for Oblah because I don’t agree with what they are saying. I’m also not going to hold my vote over anyone’s head, with the if you do this crap, you’ll lose my vote.
Vote however you want but quit using it as a threat, it’s childish.
I think you are a troll in disguise.
Ann in CA is this your other personality coming out?
Seriously, get a grip or an appointment with your doc.
It is not your duty to police others and if you do not like what is happening here today, you have some options.
Do they need to be listed out?
I second I have a bracelet 2
take a rest ann
I am a lifetime liberal DEM and I dont mind reading the comments here one bit
I am not ‘offended’ by anything but the most violent free speech and I have never seen that here on NQ
your earlier comment that you would in fact vote Obummer if the tape came out, indicates you are a victim of your own RIGHTEOUS liberalism, be happy with that, but please, dont then complain about other NQ comments, LOL!!!
HEY GINAAAAAAA!
frankly annin, you don’t sound like a moderate. i am a moderate. i believe in public schools. i believe in universal health care. i despise bush2. and i am voting for mccain. i am not holding some sneaky, illogical test over him in favor of one i consider to be a direct threat to the welfare of the usa.
If you’re a moderate, then I’m a Martian.
Waaah.
Then don’t.
Agreed about API. As a screenwriter, I found the transcript has very strange stilted language and terminology for someone like Michelle Obama, a native born American, to use. The “voice” in the writing sounds like someone from another country.
API possibly was paraphrasing.
Who were your three sources? Me, Myself and I Bwahahaha. God! What happened to you?
Eww maybe we have a NAME STEALING TROLL?
I forget the official title?
Thanks Larry for the updates. Although I find it commendable on one level, for McCain, to say no to airing the tape, on another level, I feel that he might live to regret it. I think Hillary may be reliving her campaign, and wondering if she should have said more. If McCain feels as we do, that BO would be disasterous for the country, than he should release the tape. I think the American public is sick to death of scandals, but what will they get if they elect the “messiah”? I’m afraid his entire time in office will be spent fighting the scandals surrounding his life. McCain needs to save us from this happening, by doing everything he can to defeat him.
Mac has to forget the good guy Christian thing to do. There are 300MM people at risk here. LETS SEE THE GD TAPE
If any of this is true, McCain is not the original or only owner of the tape. He doesn’t have to be the one to release it.
Whoever saves this nation from Obama will forever be the greatest American hero.
Now who is going to stand up and dot he right thing????
Joe Biden’s words are true, everyone knows it, there are other leaders that know this and need to protect this country.
So far we have Sarah, McCain and Hannity willing to stand up, but they are not providing full disclosure…Hillary, we’d be delighted to see you here (hint, hint).
If WE know Obama presents a clear and present danger, so do the leaders of this nation.
IT’S TIME SOMEONE STANDS UP!!!!!
John McCain may not own the tape. There may not be a tape, but I suspect that Michelle has made those statements. The fear of there may being a tape is weighing on her. Breaks my heart to think she might be in distress…..
snark.
Did she fly to Hawaii to be with her husband and his grandmother? She didn’t even take the grandkids to visit on their vacation.
Wonder if someone has purchase a printing machine that was the same as the one used in Hawaii on that date? Finding the ink may be a bitch though.
I am absolutely beside myself that McCain is allowing the election to pass him by not releasing the whitey tape. I am so disturbed that he is going to “allow” That One to be elected POTUS.
It is so wrong.
Get ready to see Bill Ayers and Uncle Wright dancing at the WH on 01/20/09.
Well, if McCain’s camp actually has this ‘whitey tape’ and doesn’t use it he deserves to lose. There, I said it.
Anyone who doesn’t play dirty while opposing Obama is a fool. He plays dirty, so why in the hell are Republicans playing fair now? WTF??
I am now an Independent who hates both parties. May God save us all.
The other day I came home complaining to my mom about a snake of a woman i work with, and my dear mother told me to stop talking about the woman and to pray with her. I do not understand people with high moral standards even win they are my mother, so i’m not going to wrap my mind around John mccain. maybe being so close to death (cause let’s be honest he is old) he wants to meet his maker when ever that maybe with a clear concious. The truth is no matter if obama get into office, he cheated and stole to get there, so really he didn’t win a damn thing. maybe John McCain wants to earn the positions he gets. Either way john has to past the muster of the person looking back at him in the mirror, there for he must do not what makes us happy, but what makes that person staring back at him happy.
Damn it I wanted to see that whitey tape!
A message to McCain:
Release the freakin tape!!!!!!!!!
There is too much at stake – like our entire way of life in the USA!!!!!!!!!
There was an interesting discussion yesterday among some of the commenters about their “tinfoil” picking up an impending storm. I don’t think I would agree with that but something about the McCain campaign doesn’t seem quite right….something seems to be holding both he and Sarah Palin back. I base that sense on both the lack of action on the news front and a really pathetic campaign ad that McCain is running in Colorado…something about responding to the economic crisis.
Attn: Republican campaign. Get that ad off the air now. McCain is wearing a gold tie and has a plaintive “is this okay” look on his face at the end.
I want a reformer. I voted already for a reformer. Get with it McCain people. Start slugging.
Well, Larry, I wish you had better news on these issues. for us.
having said that though,
“Conclusion
I believe we ought to start the rumor that Barack Obama really is a disgruntled plumber from Ohio. That appears to be the only way the media will be inspired to conduct a thorough investigation of why Barack has covered up and mythologized his childhood and his ties to radicals like Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and Louis Farrakhan. All hail Barack!”
yes, definiely. But the media…do we still have to call them the media, can’t we just call them the extreme left propagandists? Anyhooo, it would be good for plumbers, because then they would change the story “See, America is great, even a Plumber can be President”. LOL
API is disingenuous and playing games. They are lying about their audio tapes which they’ve been releasing for ever and nothing ever comes out.After spending 20 years at trinity racist church we don’t need their tapes to know how michele Obama is. We also know that she probably would have not supported Hillary as the nominee,why?
I AM REPLYING TO MAC’S EMAILS TO ME ASKING FOR MONEY IN THE MOST ANGRY OF TERMS. SHOW THE GD TAPE!!
But isn’t the McCain camp stuck between a rock and a hard place? Just look at the comments here: Fury if the tape is released; fury if the tape is not released. This is not the time to be divided and conquered: we need to be united (and that probably requires compromises on both sides of any issue) to prevent the election of the most inexperienced and potentially dangerous candidate ever to run for president. I’m not trying to preach, so please don’t be annoyed, I’m just worried about the division I see here today.
Thank you requiredreading for the calm and rational voice. I feel that it is already too late for the fabled Whitey tape to make a significant difference anyway. Comet Obama is on collision course with the Earth and is due to strike on Nov. 4. We all long for a “deus ex machina” to change the outcome in the last scene of the last act, but the Whitey Tape is not it. It would be too little, too late, and would only open McCain up to renewed charges of desperation and racism. The only “deus ex machina” that could work at this late date is the Kenyan birth certificate. If only Larry Sinclair would have kept that kleenex he used to wipe off his mouth . . .
He doesn’t need the tape!
He has so much right now to use against Obama that the tape is irrelevant.
Thanks, Larry for your perspective on these rumors. Your analysis seems pretty accurate.
I don’t need anymore evidence. For the first time in my adult life I voted Republican. It was painless, I just walked thru “America is a mean county” down to the mailbox and sent off my bitter, old, deadender ballot.
Love your commentary!
Good for you yttk…A SPINE IS A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE!..YOU ARE A TRUE PATRIOT! TOO BAD 1/2 OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS LOST THEIR SPINES…
I hope u were clinging to your gun in one hand and bible in the other as you walked through that mean country!
Bless u yttk…
Obama is using the lamest excuse and the media is turning the cheek again.
Andy martin files a suit in Hawaii and Obama is suddenly going there.
We need to have a complete stakeout at the courthouse the entire time.
Kinda strange that Obama heading to Hawaii after another law suit was files by Andy Martin.
Possible that Obama is trying to secure an affidavit from his grandmother, on where he was born.
However, can the affidavit be used in lue of the “Birth certificate”?
The BC on FactCheck does not have an official embossed seal from the Dept of Health in Hawaii.
First we have the fake templated Birth Certificate,
then we have the forgery on FactCheck.
The one on FactCheck DOES NOT have the official Seal of the Department of Health, State of Hawaii.
There is NO way to verify where it came from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scjF5oB-JXk
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE
This means that there are 4 law suits right now.
PA, WA, UT, and HI.
The media is avoiding this, WHY!!!
We are heading for a Constitutional crisis and a meltdown of society if this is not addressed.
And the results will rest squarely on Obama’s shoulders.
What better time to coerce an affidavit from grandma than when she’s very sick and her beloved grandbaby is so sympathetically standing by her bedside, get-well gifts overflowing his loving arms!
Yeah, yeah – cynical, I know – that’s what barky has reduced us to.
But I think coercion works both ways – if she signs an affidavit now, when she’s so sick, couldn’t that type of affidavit be challenged in court?
Hmmmm….I barky’s typical cracker Granny do swear that there was this Typhoon thingy sometime in the last 30 years that only effected my apartment and the only thingy that was lost was his birth certificate…and Hawaii had no radar at the time so that’s why no one caught pictures of the typhoon…Aaaand ya’ll quit picking on my super post racial grandson and let him be POTUS…mkay?
Hmmmm…Hope Granny keeps her health…Truly…
First we have the fake templated Birth Certificate,
then we have the forgery on FactCheck.
The one on FactCheck DOES NOT have the official Seal of the Department of Health, State of Hawaii.
There is NO way to verify where it came from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scjF5oB-JXk
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE
That’s incorrect. syc1959 is blowing smoke up your ass.
With regard to the first video, he’s comparing apples to oranges.
The embossed seal used on the DeCosta certificate was larger than the embossed seal used on newer certificates. The newer seal being smaller, the text is not as legible as it is on the larger seal.
The embossed seal on Obama’s certificate is identical to the embossed seal used on more contemporary certificates, such as this one issued to “Michele” in 2008:
SKMBT_C45008071717410.jpg
I pointed this fact out to syc1959 in a reply to his video, however my reply was soon deleted by him.
In the second video, which I’m just looking at now, he says that on his certificate, it was registered some days after his birth, and claims that on Obama’s certificate, it was registered the same day as his birth. To wit:
Also notice that uh, the date that I was born was May 5th, however that this was recorded on uh, May 14th. You’ll notice that Obama’s was apparently done on the same day he was born. This uh really should cause some uh suspicions within itself.
That’s factually incorrect. Obama’s certificate gives his date of birth as August 4th, and the date it was registered is given as August 8th.
Again, syc1959’s simply lying to you here.
He also mentions that the seal on his certificate is visible, but that the seal on the scanned image of Obama’s certificate is not.
This also is incorrect. In the full size scanned image at FactCheck (as opposed to the scaled down image on Obama’s website), the seal is evident without any enhancement, though it’s not easily seen because it was a rather poorly done scan with the brightness/contrast jacked around so that lightly shadowed areas were blown out.
However with edge enhancement, the seal is readily visible.
Next, he says that the image on Obama’s website shows no fold lines. That’s technically true but only because the image on Obama’s website is of much lower resolution than the full resolution san on FactCheck’s website.
And if you look at that image, you will see the top fold. The bottom fold isn’t evident because the tiny ridges created by folding are much shallower in the bottom fold than in the top fold (which is evidenced in the photographs) and weren’t picked up in the scanning process.
As for the altering in PhotoShop, this is a red herring. Again, the image on Obama’s website was scaled down from its original size. Simply resizing an image in PhotoShop and saving it out will show that it was “altered.”
That syc1959 insists on using the low resolution image on Obama’s website instead of the full resolution image on FactCheck just shows that he’s intentionally being less than honest.
Either that or he’s just incompetent and has no business talking about digital imaging and graphics.
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Anybody consider that Grandma has his Birth Records, since Mom the globe trotter abandoned him to the Grandparents, THEY would have needed all the papers of a ten-year-old boy in their custody. Birth Records, Social Security Number and Shot Records/Medical Records. W/O them she would never have been able to Insure him, or enroll him in American Schools, no Drivers License, etc. Seems to me like Toot would have the proof, and if she is ill, maybe he wanted to go through her things before anyone else can.
And if she is that ill, he had better have contemporaneous certificates of mental capacity from two independent and certified medical practitioners, or the affidavit will not be very weighty.
Better yet…
Why are there NO former girl friends or dates of Barack.
Could it be that he is a honosexual.
Frank Marshall Davis, the admitted honosexual pediphile, and mentor of Barack.
Three (3) murders in Chicago all gay men who knew Obama.
The Larry Sinclair allegations have NEVER been disproven.
Oh for crying out loud……..
Get over it.
I am so completely sick of this kind of kinky stuff.
We have real problems to solve.
I couldn’t care less about his sexual life.
I do care about what he’s planning to do if attacked.
See my late post above. I am officially sick of you.
Go to Huffpost and fucking stay there. You have no sense of this situation at all and need to go back to your fern filled, macramaed, peace signed, black light fucking room and STAY THERE!. Listen to Neil Young whine about what-the-fuck-ever on your record player and go back to 1971.
There is no place here for half-assed destructive and negative crap. Try to be part of the solution instead of a Quisling.
Either shit or get off the pot but quit trying to tell us that you are on our side.
That is a lie.
Well, the first thing that comes to mind when you say you couldn’t care less about what he does/says about his personal life but,
is that he’d LIE and cheat and sell us out, like he does about everything else.
THAT’S WHY the issues of his character are so important – his CHARACTER will cause him to lie and cheat and obfuscate in everything he does. That he does that as a private citizen I couldn’t care less about. That he would do it as president of the United States makes him, at the very least, A NATIONAL SECURITY RISK.
“I do care about what he’s planning to do if attacked.”
Obama will convene a committee to discuss the matter, then confer with the UN to issue a strong condemnation of the event. Then he will go meet with Chavez and Brother-of-Fidel to “forge relationships based on trust”. After that he will hold a huge rally to urge all of us to Hope for Change. Bruce Springsteen might show up for that part.
If security is your voting issue, you should vote McCain without reference to the whitey tape.
But ask yourself – why would you want to prevent the rest of America from hearing this tape or suggest that airing it is somehow underhanded or out of line?
The comment, if true, speaks volumes about Mrs. Obama’s character and by association her husband’s.
Character matters to just about everyone and it IS relevant.
Time to go, Ann.
ann, you took off your mask before halloween. another obambi troll. oh well!
I’m unclear why some people here would find telling the truth about the Obama’s to be a game changer with their vote? I guess if you lose one vote like AnninCa then it’s worth the ones you pick up with people who finally get the true story. The Obamas are RACISTS. Not the other way around. That’s why there IS a “whitey tape” and why Michelle’s thesis got locked up and sequestered. Because SHE is a RACIST. I think the country is entitled to know that. It seems most of Obama’s decisions would be based on his own personal beliefs and they are not very friendly ones to most of this country. How is it “negative” to tell the TRUTH?
As for the Obama camp? I mean, they have attacked Palin, her children, the McCains, tried to dig up dirt on McCain’s adopted daughter, etc. They have attacked Joe the Plumber, etc. So it’s a little bit of hypocrisy and kind of pathetic to hear someone wouldn’t vote for McCain if the MSM finally told the TRUTH about him and the insane, ranting, racist wife. Like I said, I think it would be worth losing one vote and “blowing it” with one person to get the rest of the votes that tape would pick up. Just MO though.
That’s legitimate.
You want to continue this refrain, you lose my “one” vote.
Except, I think I can assure you….it’s a lot more than just “one” vote.
You lose the moderates.
We’re just not into fearing Obama as the communist. We don’t go along with the birth certificate crud. We’re outta the loop as far as the right-wing stories go.
Now, I post here, and I try to avoid antagonizing those posters.
They have a right to their right-wing opinions and their space to express themselves.
But me?
The minute I see McCain pull that?
I’m not voting for him.
As it is, I’m a definite soft supporter. I’ve never voted Republican in my entire life. This is a huge risk for me. I THINK I trust him. But if there’s one whisker of a chance that he’s just another nasty, right-wing guy…….I’ll not vote for him and never even feel a whiff of guilt.
McCain has earned my vote. He’s been entirely respectable. Powell…..with his remarks about how he’s “troubled,” left me cold. No, McCain has been respectable, and I don’t respect those who don’t acknowledge that.
A move such as what some of you want……would reverse my opinion.
The good news is that I think McCain is a lot smarter than bloggers.
He’ll not throw MY vote away.
He got it. He knows. He’ll deliver.
We may not win. But he earned my vote.
Anna,
How is telling the truth, in terms of playing the “whitey tape”, racist?
AnninCA, go away.
Yes really, go away. No Quarter is a mixed bag and I think a pretty good representation of America’s right, left and center. That’s why I like it here. All you do. in so many words, is complain about how offended you are.
Take your One Vote, turn it sideways so the edges stick out and shove it up your Half-ass. The last time you committed to something, Nixon was president. Still chew only Stripe Gum?
How’s the Kool Aid?
Zeke!
10-Q, sprout!
I disagree with anninca on a number of things, primarily because I have seen Obama at (not) work in Chicago, and we have been witnesses to his unethical tactics.
Ann, I’m not sure why you are not voting for Obama, but am also not sure why you would risk getting him as president. We have seen enough of his behavior to know what an Obama presidency would look like and develop into.
That said, I have seen some of Ann’s posts up on Taylor Marsh (an Obot) and she does distance herself from the Democratic Party and Obama. So I think she is being sincere.
It is VERY difficult for democrat liberals to make the move to vote for a republican president because it means reneging on the beliefs you said were yours.
Ann, just as I believe in the 1st amendment, and respect your views, I would expect the same from you.
Obama’s campaign and he himself have lied so many times, and engaged in manipulative unethical behavior that I want to regurgitate.
I believe in bringing out information if it is true and as long as it has no spin and is not hurtful to a family (such as the making public of a file that Jack and Jerry Ryan had had sealed to protect their son, or the biased and negative “article” about Cindy McCain in the NYT). I believe that if Obama had a tape with Cindy McCain saying racist things about blacks, I would want to have that made public because it would exemplify how blacks may be treated under an administration where the wife is racist. I feel the same way about this tape.
If it were a sex tape about an affair a la Paris Hilton, then I’d say no way – and would agree with you.
Race relations are a very sensitive issue for all races, and I would want to know because prejudice colors legislation, and policies, in fact every walk of life.
Looking,
A very well presented position. Thanks…
I think that if there ever were a “tape” that had been made of Cindy McCain doing a racist rant that it would be all we saw on every channel 24-7.
Obama’s camp would ride that pony ’til its legs fell off.
rflmao Zeke!…Now I have to clean up my keyboard as I was sippin on a lunchtime beverage…You are a riot…My favorite kind o riot!
mutual admiration, artsy
Exposing Michelle for the racist that she is would make McCain a racist? You have bought the Obama koolaid that any criticism of the Messiah make the critic a racist.
I am a Democrat who has never voted Republican but nothing McCain could do would make me vote for Obama. Here is a person who has used the most despicable sexist, racist tactics, but you would vote for him?
Maybe you should go back to Obamington Post. Remember how the Obots would attack you when you were posting there? People have treated you very nicely here compared to how the Obots treated you. Doesn’t that say anything to you?
for the love of god…WE HEARD YOU THE FIRST TIME!
I was right
she or he just want some attention
(not interested in entertaining them)
You do not speak for all moderates dear. Some of us actually do care of the first lady hates white people or not.
Exactly. People do whisper of their fears of anti-white racism manifesting if “the one” wins. His association with Wright did damage him.
Yep….Racism as a political too cuts both ways and this will bite Barky in the ASS…Cracker Fear trumps Oppressed Masses…lol…
How is Barky goin to fit all those Crackers into Utah?
lmao
I voted for Obama in the Florida primary. My road to disillusionment started with Michelles bitter remarks. It opened my eyes and believe you me I was shocked and hurt. Barack the racist stole my vote. I never dreamed he was racist, in fact I thought America had stepped beyond that.
I am a moderate and have never voted party, but country first, always. So don’t tell me that finding out the the lady in waiting makes those kind of statements will turn me towards her and Barack? Strange way of looking at things. But you have succeeded into turning the discussion to being all about you.
Well I am all about America. McCain/Palin
so by your logic, if the obama campaign released a tape of Cindy McCain railing against black people you’d vote for McCain….
I’m a moderate. In fact, I used to consider myself quite liberal.
Anninca (if that is really AnninCA & not a troll taking her screen name) seems confused about what playing the race card is; playing the race card refers to accusing someone of being racist because they don’t agree with you. For instance, when Bill Clinton talked about the SC primary, the O campaign & the media played the race card on him. When Geraldine made a statement about Barack that was in essence the same thing he said about himself, repeatedly, I might add, she was dealt the race card. It’s a political ploy that involves twisting someones words or thoughts into something they are not.
Playing a video of someone who is running for office making a racist rant & using racist epithets is not playing the race card…it is simply NEWS. Michele Obama is out on the campaign trail, campaigning for her hubbie to be Prez & for herself to be First Lady. She will be representing America over & over if they win.
We have a right to know who she really is, and that is not “playing the race card”.
who cares?
who are you…Obama? Michelle? Bill Ayers?
facts are these, if there is a tape like that there are people who will care. There are people who will feelo betrayed, and there may even be Black people who will see that HE is the racist, and not want to be a part of that. Can you not attribute that Black’s can have the capacity to distance themselves from racism? I can. But, in order for them to do that, they would have to see EVIDENCE that they need to.
It ain’t swiftboatin’ if it’s the TRUTH.
Oh go away AnninCA. I’m here in CA too and you know a few more McCain votes more or less won’t make any difference in this blue state. You just like to get attention – most probably a troll.
i want to loose the AnninCa vote and i want her to leave the site. she is a constant annoyance especially when one reads the postas later on.
I’ll offset her vote. Get off the site AnninCa. Don’t vote for McCain. With the Whitey tape, we won’t need your stinkin vote.
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Crowd is pumped!
Sarah is quoting Joe Biden’s warnings about Obama not being ready to lead. She’s nailing it!
Go Sarah Go!!
Hope everyone is watching. She’s tough and she’s awesome.
America needs Sarah Palin!!!!!!
She inspires a passion for this country that hasn’t been seen since 9/11.
If you are interested in joining in lawsuits in your own state then you can go to Operationexposeobama.com. I was on a conference call with them last night and there were tons of people on it. Maybe 150? People are exploring suits in many other states about this BC thing. It would seem that the best way to get heard and protect the Constitution would be to get as many of the states covered as possible.
That One, and MO are going to laughing for years to come if he is elected. They will be saying, “Those stupid whiteys had every piece of evidence before them and they still voted for me. Here honey, the $10 I owe you, you won the bet. John or the MSM did not report anything on your tapes.” She will reply, OK Great One, go you need to start your first day of Training. Go join, Wright and Ayers they are waiting for you in the Oval office.
Whoever has any evidence, you need to produce it ASAP.
The reason I started reading this blog was because I heard about the MO whitey tape here. After the song and dance on the AFI blog and now here, I’m beginning to think both stories are hoaxes, not just the AFI one. I have a hard time believing McCain would be willing to lose this election because he doesn’t want to expose MO’s racist rant. It’s okay for the NYT’s to publish a hit piece on his wife but it’s not okay to release the tape? Like the AFI tape, unless I hear it, I don’t believe it ever existed.
Well, this “Whitey Tape” is about Obama’s wife… not Obama first of all. I do believe John McCain said families were off limits.
Now that the NYT, Obama propaganda central, wrote that awful hit piece on Cindy, I do not know what will happen.
Obama said families were off limits too, at the same time his surrogates were attacking Sarah Palin saying her son wasn’t hers but actually her grandson. Remember that?
I do. They traced it back to Obama’s media team a couple of times. First some bloggers got IP addresses. Then My Pet Jawa ran a forensics report on a YouTube video spreading lies about Sarah Palin. Obama is scum. It seems McCain wants to beat him honorably, but I say 10 days before, let the mud fly. If they’re exactly even or McCain is slightly ahead, anything should be leaked.
yeah, like the Cindy Mc Cain piece in NYT. Has Barky condemned it? Missed it if he did.
Hank,
I think you are 100% correct. The Obamas have no respect for America and why WOULD they? They ARE IMO laughing themselves to death that Obama could basically go blow up the White House himself, with Ayers, and his sheep would say “whooohooo Obama blew up the White House! He’s our hero.” It’s a disgrace but yes I believe the Obamas are spitting on America and laughing about it all day long. I do think the best was probably more like $500. They can afford the big bucks now. Hell, that’s what Michelle spends on her lobster and champagne snacks these days.
I post a link to my Blog always…my Blog is just a normal blog not a money maker and you erase the links or don’t post the material anyway! So Wheres the beef?
Anyway- Getting back to matters at hand. Obama doesn’t give up this easy. He’s clawed his way to where he is by using the lowest, dirty tactics to win..
So, all of a sudden he’s giving up? I don’t buy it! He will Appeal and drag this thing over the finish line somehow.
Just got an email from the OB campaign…they want me to give them 10 bucks for a “special edition” obama/obiden car magnet…maybe that’s why everyone’s tin foil hats have been vibrating…too much magnetism in the air!
Pssssst . . . Hey buddy, I know where you can get a special edition obama/obiden car magnet, a plastic Obamamessiah dashboard figure, AND a super sanctified Holy-O votive candle, all for $12.99!!!! Check it out, dude:
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B A R F
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If the McCain campaign requested the Whitey Tape not be used, then I guess that shows McCain is principled…but not practical. The NY Times bashes Cindy McCain, but doesn’t dare mention Obama’s drug use, the MSM attempts to destroy the Palin family with the most vile, reprehensible tripe but plays down the Rev. Wright story, Obama’s ads focus on McCain’s cancer, they also misstate his stance on stem-cell research, ridicule his inability to use a computer, etc. etc. — If you go into the ring determined to box according to the rules and your opponent brings a switchblade and a stun gun…who do you think is going to win? America NEEDS and DESERVES the truth, so I hope the McCain camp will begin to fight back.
With all due respect AnninCa….I am a moderate and registered Independent. I just can’t let my own rhetoric get in the way of saving this country. You might be one of the few people I have seen blogging here that still thinks this country would survive an Obama Presidency. Most people I know, moderate or not, are terrified. By Obama and Biden’s OWN statements. The Biden comment yesterday was atrocious. And very telling about what is to come. At this point, yeah, we might lose a vote or two from someone with their heels in the ground. Oh well. If you are so on the fence about McCain then we can’t stop you anyway and threats are sort of silly. Your vote is your vote to use how you feel comfortable. But every day I convert more people, every day, and pretty much that is based on TRUTH about Obama. Because as we all know, the truth isn’t pretty. It’s not about liberal vs. conservative. That race was abandoned back in the Primary when Obama committed the fraud that stole Hillary’s nomination. And then everything after. The truth is simply not acceptable for ANY candidate and Obama must be stopped. I was born and will die in America. Not Cuba.
Larry as much as I appreciated coming to this blog and respect you for what you created for us here, this is a very lame excuse.
What? Are you one of those
looniespeople who think that Larry has possession of this tape? Neither he nor anyone else on this site has ever said that Larry has that tape. Yet there continues to be these repeated posts saying, “Larry, release the tape!”Where in the world did people get the idea it was Larry’s tape?
He has become sort of personally tied to it. I know if I were him and it never came out, I would have three fewer “friends.”
I have little to no faith in our Judicial System. And my reason for that goes way beyond this situation.
Time and time again, the Judges do not seem to care about the American People at all. I don’t mean that Judges should let public opinion alter their take on the law, what I mean is, in those situations where a Judge has discretion.. it seems that so often the result of the decision is not one that favors us.
Now in a case like this.. would kill it the idiot judge to get this case over with one way or another? What the hell takes so freakin long.
It drives me crazy that our legal system will grant Constitutional rights to people who want to destroy the United States and yet no one can assure the American people that NØbama is even eligible to be President.
I have been in a state of profound disillusionment about the government of this country since 2006 and things are getting logarithmicly worse by the day.
Why would anyone think it dishonorable of McCain to show the “whitey” tape? If it’s out there than it’s fair game. Americans should know who they’re electing and their basic values. If such a tape exists it is racist but not on McCain’s part-rather on Michelle’s part. Obama has pointed that finger at way too many people this past year and I suspect previously to get ahead. It’s time we stop dancing around the issue. If someone would change their vote from McCain because McCain used it, I don’t think you’re thinking it through. The Obama camp would have used a tape of Cindy in a heartbeat and if it were true, that would be a reason not to vote for McCain not the other way around.
McCain is afraid he’ll lose Anninca’s vote.
LOL!
Maybe she uses the ACORN voting technique and McCain has a legitimate worry… she might vote 76 times!
LOL…HEY ZEKE….Maybe AnninCA is really a dead person…Al Capone is voting for Obama…Maybe AnninCA should display her BC and Driver’s license…Being from CA maybe she is really an animated character…lol
I thought those Disney characters were supposed to keep quiet!
and if she has a fish tank maybe 80 times.
LOL…good one…
OT – The rumor (via columnist Michael Sneed of the Sun-Times) is that Obama is insisting that his successor to his Senate seat, following his coronation, has to be an AA and that person may very well be Valerie Jarrett. Jarrett is the daughter-in-law of the late columnist, Vernon Jarrett and the daughter of Dr. James Bowman, a pathologist and geneticist. Jarrett, who hired Michelle for her job in the Daley administration, then went on to become the Chairman of the Board of Trustees for the University of Chicago Medical Center and Vice Chairman of the Board of Trustees for the U of C. Michelle, of course, just coincidentally landed a $300,000+ job at U of C Medical Center after Jarrett landed on the U of C boards.
Jarrett, being somewhat less illustrious than other members of her family, is the head of The Habitat Company, a firm that manages some privatized housing for low-income residents. One property that Habitat managed was Grove Parc, a property that “has become a symbol for some in Chicago of the broader failures of giving public subsidies to private companies to build and manage affordable housing – an approach strongly backed by Obama as the best replacement for public housing.” Under Habitat, “a maintenance worker at the complex says money often wasn’t even available for steel wool to plug rat holes.”
Jarrett is part of the Rezko cesspool of Chicago low-income property developers/managers and apparently she may be my next senator. I’m so excited!
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/1232424,CST-NWS-sneed21.article
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/?page=1
Valarie Jarrett, a/k/a “The other side of Barack’s Brain”. The socialists version of Karl Rove, a/k/a Bush’ Brain. So many similarities it isn’t even funny. From the radical right to the radical left.
Notrees,
If you use the “Circle analogy” for the political spectrum, those two extremes are next-door neighbors.
I see those two nut-cases as being equally distant from my viewpoint and equally dangerous…
Karma is a bitch. What if obama gives Jarrett his seat and then loses the WH, or gets kicked out before Inauguration, and Jarrett refuses to step down, ala shades of Obama/Palmer.
She is also Iranian.
I am sorry but if there were a Whitey tape, I think it would have leaked. Or it should.
What’s funny to me is that nobody seems to doubt that Meeechelle would go on a loud, vicious, racist, nasty rant against “whitey” – or anybody else, for that matter. It’s just soooo in her character (and Jeremiah’s and all her other friends’) to do that.
All that seems to be in doubt (from some) is that someone managed to videotape her doing it and/or that the tape is in the hands of the republicans.
Myself, I don’t doubt any of it one bit. The only thing I’m not sure of is whether they’ll use it.
It does seem, though, that the NYT hit piece on Cindy McCain might have had something to do with the tape – or the fear of it.
Good observation Firefly. In light of the Cindy McCain article by the “Obama Times”, I think McCain should definitely use the tape, if he indeed has it.
Man, doesn’t this go right to the root?
We are watching an honorable man being assaulted by a cheating, lying, evil intended group of worthless Motherf**kers and we know that someone, someplace, has a game breaker nuke in his pocket which would literally hand him the election. Given the stakes in this soirée, losing seems hardly an option but to win requires applying the same “ends justify the means” philosophy that the other sonsofbitches always use.
I believe that McCain is seeing further down the road than we are and has concluded that at this time, he will ask that it be kept under wraps.
I think that Sen. McCain, a dude whose personal honor is paramount to him, would absolutely hate having to resort to its use considering that the election will, at that time, become totally about race.
If there is a DonnaBrazilleRiot nationwide as a result, race relations in America will cease to exist.
So, even though it exists and is totally damning, McCain is hoping for anything else to be the cause of his victory. Rezko and Ayers connections to Obama are still holding out hope for that to happen and there are still a number of Joe Biden speeches to hear, so McCain is holding that last-option bomb close to his vest.
In a do-or-die finale, I think that somebody will push that button. Believing as I do that Obama will never give up power if he gets it, I think I would.
come on, McCain has a sense of honour that is lost to this generation. He ain’t like Bush and definitely not like obama. McCain knows obama isn’t honourable, so he doesn’t like obama. but pulling the tapes out in public is NOT honourable for him. the 527’s may do it, but not with McCains permission. McCain rather lose the election than be dishonourable. and dont blame larry. he is telling you the truth as he has been told. and its his blog. so either understand what he is saying or exit.
Whew- so many tough issues for McCain and his team to ponder.
The Whitey tape- if it exists- and Jeremiah Wright- who does, are gut-wrenching for a guy like McCain to exploit.
McCain was genuinely shocked by the incendiary and outrageous remarks of John Lewis. At the same time pundits like Gergen and Carville fan the flames and basically THREATEN McCain and the country with racial riots and rage in the streets if he wins.
McCain well remembers, as do many of us, the really ugly and evil racism that Lewis was talking about- and the FACT that nothing in the character of McCain-Palin reflects that, seems not to matter a whit to these people.
Given the subtle threats, the outright charges from the left of racism at every turn- put yourself in McCain’s spot. Would YOU want to be PERCEIVED as being responsible for re-igniting the 60’s? Because you know damn well that’s what they’re thinking. Code Pink is already planning for it- just in case. McCain is being blackmailed.
If it were up to me- I’d have released the whitey tapes (if they exist) back in July or August. Now? I’m not sure.
Obama is one who has brought up all the issues surrounding race. He is the most divisive candidate since George Wallace. If Cindy McCain was taped going on a racist rant does anyone here think the Obama campaign would not use the tape????
As far as AnninCa goes, our votes for McCain don’t count for much in California anyway. Do you think your one vote or my one vote will count for anything again all the Obots’ votes in San Francisco, Berkeley, Santa Cruz, Marin County, etc?
I agree with everything you’re saying- in theory.
If there are tapes out there- I wish they’d been released months ago.
I’m trying to see it from the perspective of McCain’s campaign. I don’t know what the morals of this should be.
My fear directs me both ways.. First- I think- dear GOD man, this is our country we’re talking about here- the guy is a danger to the republic- do anything legally to defeat him.
Then- I think about the points I made above- the clear threats made to McCain as to what will happen- racially -if he wins.
I concur.
Ever since last year polls suggested that only McCain could win from a Democratic nominee, as ‘W’ has basically scrapped the Republican ‘brand’. He has to tread on thin ice, on the one hand not losing the Republican base for ‘RINO-ism’ (which is one big reason for the Palin pick), on the other hand not losing independents/moderate Democrats. One big reason for his party-wide appeal is that he is known as a man of integrity (that investigator on the Keating 5 even said he’s one of the few), and yes, that’s also a big reason why even in ‘old’ Europe quite a few people and media-outlets are rooting for McCain (which of course means flying figs for the elections but still).
Also, BO is the Teflon-man; the ‘whitey-tape’ wouldn’t change Obots’s opinion but, like you said, only be ‘deflected’ as a ‘McNasty’ attack on poow wee Michelle (who I 100% believe to have used the term, her thesis, her Jackson-association, and choice of ‘church’ just yell it) .
It’s a lousy situation, but to end at a high note: the ‘lynching’ of Joe the Plumber has damaged BO quite a lot, and we’ll see a lot more Joe’s.
Obama and his camp must really be concerned with Ayers. I just got a 4 page high glossy color mail out here in Florida. It was all about his Ayers lies. It was a mail out fight the smears.
I think Ayers is Obama Achilles heel, or one of them but important.
Keep hitting him John and Sarah, use all the ammunition and we will Stand Up With You.
Thank gawd. I’ve been saying API is a scam. I hope I am wrong…but I thought it was a scam immediately.
Anyway, thanks for the info.
some humor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj-EAMgZWtE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h3GPc_yMCE
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Someone will release it on Fox News then it will go viral.. Maybe, Joe, the Electrician!
TD Blog has a couple of good write-ups about Obama’s sudden plans to visit Hawaii and Martin’s legal actions. TD also thought the API story was a hoax, but she seems to think Berg’s suit has legs…