By the Numbers
By Larry Johnson on October 22, 2008 at 7:33 PM in ABC News, Advertising, Air America Radio, Barack Obama, Bush/Cheney, CNN, Current Affairs, Fox News, Joe The Plumber, MSM, Media, Media Bias, NBC, Sarah Palin
The disaster of the Bush Administration and the tarnished legacy of the Republican Congress would normally spell doom for the Republicans in the November election. But then you learn that the Democratic Congress is held in lower esteem than even the Bush Administration. I agree that the trend lines for McCain do not look good, but we are not seeing a flood of support for Obama either.
I would like you to think about some numbers:
In the 2004 Presidential election there were more than 122,000,000 votes cast. In 2006 for the Congressional race, which put the Democrats in charge of both the House and the Senate, 80 plus million people voted. I was surprised that 42 million folks decided not to vote.
Now look at the media numbers. According to Drudge Report, the number of folks watching nightly network news is less than 22 million:
CBSNEWS w/ Couric shed a half a million viewers, falling from 6.4 million to 5.9 million;
ABCNEWS dropped from 8.1 million to 7.6 million;
NBCNEWS slumped from 8.2 million to 7.8 million.
The numbers for cable shows is even less. Fox News, with O’Reilly Factor and Hannity and Colmes, sits atop the heap with around 4.3 million viewers. CNN and MSNBC combined rarely exceed 4 million viewers. Let’s be generous and assume that no one watches more than one show and that the “viewers” are individual and unique. For the national news shows we are talking around 30 million people tops.
Radio, by contrast, reaches over 160 million people each day. And conservatives appear to continue to dominate in this market. Rush Limbaugh, for example, attracts around 14 million listeners. (Note–I have not located a comprehensive summary breaking down total numbers for conservative vice liberal radio stations. If you have it please post below or send me an email and I’ll update this piece)
So where are most of the people who are voting getting their information? It looks to me like radio, rather than network television, is the key medium. I’m also curious about the televised medias’ constant drumbeat against Sarah Palin while she continues to to draw record crowds to her events. Sarah’s authenticity, like that of Joe the Plumber, has struck a chord with average Americans that the media elites don’t comprehend.
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What do we have for Tampa, Don Pardo?
A deluxe case of Tabasco sauce, a Shamwow!, and our undying thanks for not being a first troll!
(I passed on a “First!” today cause I knew somebody’d get me…)
Most people do only hear or see stories about stories these days.
That’s just another story.
I agree Larry…Radio and the internet are key this year. thanks for the article.
Those Wacky geniuses at peoplescube have got a great video..needs to go viral…lol…made my evening
http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?p=45569#45569
I love the People’s Cube.
My fav is the Brains of Conservatives and Liberals.
http://www.thepeoplescube.com/Greatest_Hits.php
Scroll down a little and you’ll see them.
I’ve seen them Vince…I’d love to have those on a t-shirt…Those wacky comrades have saved my funny bone this election season…Just like NQ has saved my sanity…thanks
Oh and the collection of Barkystyle posters s classic…Especially the McCain F**k it one…lol
I wish they would get a Pravda News network like the onion news network…They’d cause an epidemic of Pretentious Uberliberal fascist head explosions on par with scenes from MARS ATTACKS!…lol…
Yes Larry, I agree…the media elites, just like the far left intellectual elites, don’t get it.
Palin’s record crowds, the Joe and Jo Plumbers of the world, and millions and millions of true Americans will come out in DROVES to vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin on Nov. 4th.
Listen, Larry. I can tell you that I hated Rush and for me to put Rush and Glenn Beck on my radio while I drive shows you that we as americans are fed up with the socialist liberal media! I never thought I could watch Fox and listen to Rush all in the same day! What Cnn and Msnbc has done to the american people is a crime!
me too. I’m a former tv radio newscaster who watched news 24-7. today the only msm anchor I can stand now is lou dobbs, but I refuse to watch him because he’s on cnn and I won’t give that network any ratings. before I never watched fox, but now that’s the only network i turn on.
I listen to Rush everyday… I don’t watch any TV, if I did it wouldn’t be NBC, ABC or CBS. I hope they all go broke…..
I’m sorry, I still can’t stand Rush. I guess its because me & dh were big Clinton fans (we are both moderates). I think he is a hypocrite. But I’ll occasionally listen, to get ideas and then research them elsewhere.
Now I listen only to Rush and Roger Hedgecock. And RedEye on Fox is hilarious!!
Yes! I NEVER thought I’d be listening to conservative talk radio shows like Neil Boortz, Michael Savage, Rush and the like. Lou Dobbs is the only person on CNN who I can stand. The networks are all out, except FOX once in awhile.
I get my news from a handful of conservative blogs as well.
I’m a lifelong Democrat who never voted Republican in my life. This year, I’ll be voting, with pleasure, a straight Republican ticket.
I’m on the same page…I would never listen to Rush or Hannity…now I do.
However, I do not swallow everything he says when he talks about certain issues and disses Democrats.
You have to keep your wits about you when you listen!!
Yes, I agree…I don’t buy everything they say either.
I never thought in a million years I would defend Hillary.. and then earlier this year I found myself doing so.. and also was surprisingly almost feeling reassured when I had thoughts that maybe she might win.
That’s how bizarre this election is.
She would have been running now if not for ACORN and Chicago style politics.
never thought i would be wishing it was hillary either, if it was a mccain vs. hillary most likely mccain, but i wouldn’t be scared about hillary as much as i am about obama!
I totally agree with you. Rush particularly has been a good source of information. I hope the radio heads have power with the voters.
You will see the fairness doctrine come back if oblahblahblahbama wins this election. those radio shows and blogs like this one will be the first to go.
You folks here at NQ have restored my faith in Americans. I only wish my fellow conservatives had some of your courage. We probably do not agree much on policy but we agree that oblahblahblahbama is NOT the man for this job.
Lets get McCain/Palin elected then we can battle it out on policy later.
Thanks,
Mr. Bitter
Onward satanic soldiers. Keep the kooks off NQ. Oh please kooks go away JUST GO AWAY. Ugh. Thank you.
places like NoQuarter, the Denver Group and many others…we are the media this year. Word of mouth, many have gathered reliable information here and were able to pass it onto others knowledgeably. I do know that it has been a well known fact for awhile about how bad the approval ratings were for Dem congress.
Hmmmm…Look who’s endorsing Barky now…sheeesh!
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/10/21/the-latest-person-to-endorse-barack-obama.php
Yes, I don’t watch NBC, MSNBC, CBS or ABC anymore. CNN only for Lou. If you had told me a year ago that this would happen, I’d have suggested you were from Pluto.
I listen to Hannity in the car from a station out of Fresno…no local station…only one talk station here and they are extreme left wing.
The other day another talk show host on the Fresno station reported that their competitor conservative station had been criticizing Obama and the Democrats. The Obama supporters filed a complaint about it and now they may be ordered to provide 3 hours for the left wing rebuttal.
Lou Dobbs had a poll today about the “Fairness Doctrine” and 60+% were opposed to it. I’m not sure how The Fairness Doctrine reads but it sounds like one of those laws that turn out to be “NOT”.
Anything Ronald Raygun had repealed must have been a good piece of legislation. When the Fairness Doctrine was in place, no one griped about media bias the way we do today because Gibson’s interviews would have never gotten out of the edit room– they would have been subject to instant on-air (read expensive to the network, free to the complainer) rebuttal by the GOP.
It really cuts both ways. I’m in favor of the Fairness Doctrine but I’m also an anti-Obama voter.
Congress has a 14% approval rating, which is lower than Bush’s. Why the Democrats are crowing as though they have some wave of support flooding in is truly beyond me. I suppose they think that Bush vetoed them, and blame him.
The truth was that they presented very bad bills.
People aren’t stupid. They know.
I think, personally, it might be dawning on some of them that this business of sending their tax dollars to those who don’t pay taxes in this economy means that they are about to see quite a few startling bills.
I think the AP poll might well be accurate. This is turning on Obama.
The AP poll is as accurate as you’d expect a poll with 44% of the respondents being born-again or evangelical Christians.
http://www.ap-gfkpoll.com/pdf/AP-GfK_Poll_3_Topline_FINAL.pdf
Page 20, question DM14.
Ap has a poll today which is more reflective of the race,it has Obama at 44 and McCain at 43 with 25% undecided with movable voters. You would never know it listening to the msm.
They went too far…extremists usually do…in either party…
Palin is AUTHENTIC…McCain is too but folks are so Dazzled by the Pretender they can’t see what’s staring them in the face…sheeesh!
One of my favorite shows is Boston Legal because of the Denny Crane character…Being from Texas we are thick with the like of Denny Crane…lol…But of course I used to be a rarity…a liberal with a sense of humor who could laugh at Liberals and their pretensions…Must be Why I like Sarah Palin so much…Must be the wokingclass in me…
Check this out for a laugh…Scene of Denny Crane, guns and Obama
http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?p=45564#45564
That’s hilarious!
The Denny Crane scene is priceless! Thanks!
I’m actually thinking about getting a gun.
Never thought I’d do it, but I am fearful of the government if Obama steals the election.
too friggin’ funny. LMAO
Guess I should start watching Boston Legal. Haha. Actually stopped because of Candace.
If you only read one thing today it should be Orson Scott Card’s open letter in the Rhino Times. It says it all.
http://ohmyvalve.blogspot.com/2008/10/must-read-from-orson-scott-card.html
excellent!!
This is going around everywhere…I put it up at RCP today.
Excellent! Must read for all Americans!
The media has been utterly derelict in their duty.
They have proven themselves as no longer necessary nor credible.
The old dinasaur media will die as the American people view them as no longer trustworthy or relevant.
Television news is the worst place to get informed, not be cause of the bias, but because of the lack of depth. A story can not be told in 30-60 seconds. It is best a place for headlines to familiarize oneself with for further research of in depth articles in the ink or digital print media. So count me as one outside that 30 million that watches network news, I am not less informed because of it.
I look elsewhere for my sources. The headlines i see on a web portal are just as informative as the 30 minute network evening news. Then I spend a couple of hours reading deeper into those issues that are of primary interest, trying to get a range of opinion.
I don’t think that a general statement can be made that other than those 30 million that do watch network news the rest of the voting public is uninformed. Yes, too many are, but the divide is not whether one watches network news or not. I feel that those that rely solely on network news are the second to least informed, s;light;ly better than those who do not seek out any information whatsoever.
I think the “spreading the wealth around” remark was a nail in Obama’s coffin. Alot of people are already pissed that 40% of people don’t pay income tax. Add a rebate check to their pocket for something they never paid for and that will not sit well. I used to know someone my brother dated. They had 3 kids together, never got married. They broke up. I used to do her taxes. She was rewarded every year through tax refunds and credits aka the taxpayer, w a tax refund double what she paid in income taxes. She got all kinds of tax breaks for those kids. Does she put it to good use at least? Nope, she blows it. Why? No accountability is expected. That’s just a fact.
I know the kind my self…they expect someone else to pay the bills and then they get extra…do they save it , hell no…blow it on crap and then whine because they don’t have money to pay the electric bill.
As a single mother I ran into this type……….I am not begrudging I chose my path……….BUT, I paid full price for my daughter’s daycare……..while I saw less fortunate who had multiple children be subsidized thru the govt.
Funny thing is I drove a 91 Buick (still have it) while they drove brand new SUV’S in 2004. Something wrong with that picture.
You Betcha!…I’m Po and I never catch a break…sheeesh!
I call it the “Piddle Class.”
We’re too poor to really get ahead, but not poor enough to get help from welfare.
And … we get “piddled” on!
But … many folks in the piddle class would rather not depend on welfare.
Can you say earned income credit? My sister used to get welfare (now gets disability) and would work and earn maybe $3000-6000 per year. She got a huge earned income credit. Did I? I was alos a single mom of 2, just like her, but I worked full time, etc. Got no credit for working. Her tax “refunds” (those refunds of what she never paid in) were often 4 times what I got on between $28,000-40,000. Plus, I had mortgage interest deductions, etc. But no. She got a big reward because she would work occasionally. It pissed me off big time.
I have been watching those numbers at drudge also. Fox always out numbers CNN and MSNBC in the debates. Here are some old numbers I just happen to have.
CABLE RACE, WED, SEPT 17
FOXNEWS HANNITY/COLMES 4,921,000
FOXNEWS O’REILLY 3,839,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 3,561,000
FOXNEWS SHEP SMITH 2,184,000
FOXNEWS HUME 2,108,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,854,000
CNN COOPER 1,719,000
MSNBC RACHEL MADDOW 1,716,000
CNN KING 1,646,000
MSNBC HARBALL 1,145,000
CABLE NEWS RACE THU, SEPT. 18, 2008
FOXNEWS HANNITY/COLMES 4,589,000
FOXNEWS O’REILLY 4,092,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 3,286,000
FOXNEWS SHEP SMITH 1,986,000
MSNBC RACHEL MADDOW 1,971,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,947,000
FOXNEWS HUME 1,903,000
CNN KING 1,855,000
CNN COOPER 1,852,000
CNNHN GRACE 1,204,000
CNN DOBBS 1,121,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 944,000
SARAH SHOW: 69,989,000
TOTALS
ABC 13,130,000
NBC 12,820,000
CBS 11,100,000
FOXNEWS 11,098,000 (record)
CNN 10,685,000
FOX 4,500,000
Did you see the headline at Drudge now?
CONSTRUCTION BEGINS FOR OBAMA’S BIG ELECTION NIGHT BASH
MORE…
Obama talks transition, post-election plans…
‘I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs’…
I hope the voters see his arrogance.
http://www.drudgereport.com/
Here is a good link for Cable News ratings
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/
Nielson news ratings
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/06/18/cable-news-ratings-for-tuesday-june-17/4176
SORRY wrong link
http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/top-news/cable-news
Talkers Magaizine publishes some stats about the nationally syndicated Hosts
http://www.talkers.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17&Itemid=34
Some of the hosts dispute these numbers, so don t take them as gospel.. but good for trends.
1. Rush 14.25 Million (Min. Weekly Cume)
2. Hannity 13.25
3 Michael Savage 8.25
Dr Laura
4. Glenn Beck 6.75
5. Laura Ingraham 5.5
Mark Levin
6. Dave Ramsey 4.5
7. Neal Boortz 4.25
8. Mike Gallagher 4
Michael Medved
9. JIm Bohannon 3.5
Bill OReilly
Doug Stephan
10. Bill Bennett 3.25
Clark Howard
11. Jerry Doyle 3.0
George Noory
Ed Schultz
12. Rusty Humphries 2.25
Kim Komando
Lars Larson
Jim Rome
13. Bob Brinker 1.75
Don Imus
Tom Leykis
Mancow
14. Dr Joy Browne 1.5
Alan Colmes
Thom Hartmann
Hugh Hewitt
Lionel
G Gordon Liddy
Dennis Miller
Stephanie Miller
15. Dr Dean Edell 1.0
Bill Handel
Dennis Prager
Michael Reagan
Randi Rhodes
————–
I listen to Rush, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin, Dennis Prager, Michael Medved, and Hugh Hewitt.
Hmmm…no NPR stats….lol
These are personality-based ratings.. not channel or station.
Larry, I think you are absolutely right about Sarah’s authenticity being the real appeal to the American people. That’s what the media elites cannot comprehend–or maybe they do get it, and that’s what they cannot stand. Chris Matthews tonight started in bashing Palin’s wardrobe cost, comparing her to Eliza Doolittle. Between ridiculing Sarah Palin’s accent, her hair, her family, and now, her wardrobe – they distanced themselves from a large segment of the American population, i.e. Joe the Plumbers. (who they also attacked with rabid ferocity.)
The thing that has struck me as most revealing about today’s Democratic Party is that they are ridiculing the people they once courted – the Rosie the Riveters and Joe Six-Packs. I guess we were the “useful idiots” for their agendas. No more.
Yes, so true…wasn’t it that nut Donna B. who said that they didn’t need us to win in Nov.? We will see.
That was a gargantuan mistake on her part as we took her up on her offer.
that’s the problem with strong emotions…no matter hw hard ya try to conceal them they just leak out all over the place…Aaaand Commissar Donna Brazeal has a problem with CRACKERS…I don’t know if she’s allergic or what…But there it is…
Aaaaand now CRACKER as a colloquial term has left the confines of it’s southern closet and made it to PA…lol…where a columnist calls Mac’s supporters Crackers…Gotta love it
The extreme left via Obama is setting the tone.
I couldn’t agree more. I don’t relate to this Democratic party. The snide ageism remarks by Obama set off the wolf packs of youths posting remarks about older people that just show a complete lack of empathy. Look at the Letterman show. All ageist jokes.
The sexism was enough to make any smart young woman in America reconsider the thought of marriage. Why?
It’s just been a transformational year, all right, but not in the way the idiotic pundits think.
Even if McCain can’t pull this out, I can guarantee you that he and Palin have successfully transformed the Republican party into the party of the regular Joes.
And I firmly believe that in that oh so boring off-cycle election year, the Democrats will be quite shocked to learn their more solid-voting base has left.
I’m shaking my head. Just don’t know. This past Saturday, I was on a Long Island Rail Road train with a friend, going out to Montauk Point. This is a very intelligent person who has a very demanding job in one of the largest architectural firms in the U.S. She brought up the election and said she was “leaning” to Obama but hadn’t made up her mind. I told her I’d already cast an absentee ballot for McCain. A one-hour discussion ensued and I discovered she knew nothing about the roles played by Chris Dodd and Barney Frank vis a vis Fannie and Freddie. And, like me, she has an IRA that has taken a big hit. She knew nothing about ACORN’s role in voter registration fraud or that the recently passed bailout package was preceded by an earlier version (voted down in the House) that was supposed to include a financial reward for ACORN. She knew nothing about Obama’s associations in Chicago. She was shocked. I was shocked when she asked, “But isn’t his being the first black man to accomplish this something that cancels all this out?” After replying “No. that should have been the cherry on the cake, not the cake,” I asked her where she gets her news. She watches NY1, a local cable channel that does a great job with New York City news but no real depth on national stories She does not listen to radio news. She does not use the Internet to research news. She admitted to voting for Giuliani twice (2 elections) but this year, she may vote for Obama to be part of history. I know, I know … it’s one of those “New York City” votes, but I wonder if this is what’s happening in all the cities. People, if they’re working, are too busy in the cities to listen to talk radio or research news on the Internet. They don’t drive to work so there’s no “drive time” radio listening going on.
Mandelay, as you know sadly most people are misinformed and only get their information from editorialized and sanitized soundbites. Then as you found out they make irrational emotional decisions. No answer here, bud.
Larry-I think you have to look at word of mouth also. I work in a hospital where I can listen all day to people’s conversations in the waiting rooms and many times one person will say something about how Obama is so intelligent or a great speaker or that he’s for the poor people, etc and the next person will start listening. As far as people watching news on television I think those numbers are way down because hardly anybody really sits down at 6:30 anymore to watch network television. I will say this, my husband has a cousin in Massachusetts who does nothing but watch CNN all day and thinks Obama’s the greatest. But I definitely think the msm has been deliberately lying to the American people in order to get BO elected and try to discourage people like they did in the primaries.
People were mad about the press then and they are now. It didn’t work to well, Clinton won big time when people started noticing what was going on.
The pissed off electorate is hanging up the phone when the pollsters call. We will go to the only ‘polls’ that matter very soon!
That happened to me just today. I got a recorded call from a 203 area code saying “We would like you to participate in a 45-second political survery …” I hung up immediately.
According to Gallup, 80% of the people that they contact are doing the exact same thing. This is why I think that all the polls this year are suspect.
I’d like to know how msnbc is doing. That’s the looney tune of cable news. Anyone see McCain talk about msnbc at the Afred E. Smith dinner? He had it about right.
dinner 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90KbbB9CvsE
dinner 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhGBI2Y3HBQ&feature=related
It’s no secret I am not a big fan of numbers and polling. One thing we know for certain, it is a huge mistake to count Mac out. He has a way of surprising everyone!
I assume many visitors to this blog are activists. If we focus too much on how well Mac is polling that saps energy from things we could be doing for him. Having a soapbox is nice but I think a responsibility comes with it to remain positive and not lose sight of the goal: a win for Mac!
I understand we have become a data obsessed culture. But lets bring the fighting human spirit back into the ‘equation’!
Thanks for this great post, Larry. It’s encouraging.
I guess most Americans are not as dumb and blind as Obama is hoping they are.
Obama has a new tax savings calculator..it popped up in an ad on Drudge. It will compare what you save with him versus McCain. I find it hard to believe when McCain will double the child deduction and give a $5000 health care REFUNDABLE tax credit. But I am no economist. Uhbama doesn’t have a great track record for telling the truth.
I feel that for the past few years, we have been paying what I feel is a pretty fair share of taxes. We get a nice refund check from both the state and federal. So all this is no big deal to me. But with McCain, I trust that he will follow through on what he has promised. I sure don’t want people who pay no taxes, to be getting a check from the government…that just doesn’t seem right.
Anyone else hope that McCain and Sarah cough up a million to do their own television spot?
Hey everyone, please read this article
Would the Last Honest Reporter Please Turn On the Lights?
http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2008-10-05-1.html
This article completely disregards the medium of the internet, which I guarantee is playing a more significant role this year than TV or radio. It allows people to find websites which suit their specific biases.
Here is the Arbitron link.
http://www.arbitron.com/diary/home.htm
http://www.arbitron.com/downloads/radiotoday08.pdf
(Page 85) … some interesting stats.
I know this is sort of OT—well, let me tie it in by saying how a lot fewer people probably follow Israel Insider…..
See the rest on the left in a “note to loyal readers.” http://israelinsider.ning.com/
If one wonders what the fairness doctrine will do to talk radio, read this.
while it is from June 2007 and considering the source flip through this.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/06/pdf/talk_radio.pdf
I haven’t watched any television news for at least 3 months. I watch a few sitcoms online but there is no point in owning a television anymore. I don’t take these broadcast “journalists” seriously. I get most of my news online or on blogs. I have not listened to any news radio but it doesn’t surprise me that no one watches MSNBC or CNN anymore. Not only do these networks not appeal to conservatives, they have alienated millions of liberals who voted for Clinton in the primaries. No one takes these idiots seriously anymore. They have lost all credibility. It amazes me that there would come a day when I would trust FOX over MSNBC but here we are.
This is exactly what happened to me this year. The folks calling themselves ‘journalists’ are a sad joke to the profession that used to be respected.
Count me in re folks who no longer ever watch MSM news. I watch CNBC, Fox News, and a bit of Bloomberg and CNN. I listen to Rush almost every day (well, look at my screen-name!) and to Hannity, Glenn Beck, Savage, etc. if I am driving at those times. And…, getting wonderful info on the ‘Net, like NoQuarter. Bravo, Larry Johnson!
I never listened nor listen to right wing radio, I loathe them since the Clinton presidency. I despise just as much the left wing, ie Pacific, I got tired of hearing: It’s raining, the US is at fault; It’s snowing, the US is at fault; It’s sunny, the US is at fault. It got old.
I use to watch CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, C-SPAN. I began to watch FOX when Bill Hemmer went from CNN to FOX in the early, early mornings…since March, I watch Lou Dobbs at CNN, ZERO at MSNBC, CNBC, C-SPAN, and….FOX, just about anyone there.
And I was a registered Independent who switched to a registered Republican (gulp) when the Democrat monsters dragged bony ass to delegate optimum, creating a lose-lose situation for the Democrats.
I get most of my news online; I DVR Lou Dobbs as he will take a swipe at anyone, and as my partner posited, “Do you have any idea who he is voting for?” For that simple reason alone, I appreciate Lou as all the others are quite transparent in their one-sidedness. I do DVR The McLaughlin Group even though I can’t stand Elenor Clift. I long for John to say, “Bye bye Barack.”
My big concern are all the folks that just get their news from the local paper. I check out my rag daily, mostly for the local news. The national and international stuff is all AP, and as we know, they are slanted. Besides, by the time my local paper prints this stuff, it’s old news for me as I’ve seen it online the day before. Unfortunately, the folks in rural towns will only know what the paper is willing to pick up from the AP. And that is scary. (They rarely pick up Reuters or McClatchy articles.)
Eleanor Clift was one who said the democrats can rely on new, younger voters, not old women (paraphrase).
Her time has come and gone, as if it were ever really here. Bye, Bye Eleanor!
maybe it will look like another “What’s the matter with Kansas?” – but this time we’ll be on the Kansans’ side! last time I was one of the puzzled & angry ones!
I think what worries me is the people who don’t know who is running on the tickets voting.
Greta is coming on…Palin being hit again….later all.
Greta is good tonight.
I just went to alexa.com to see how web traffic was at foxnews.com compared to msnbc.com
WOW! You guys have to go over there to see for yourself. I was amazed that Foxnews.com even gets more hits than politico, huffingtonpost, or msnbc.com.
That’s good to hear. I despise Huffington Post.
Wow…that is twice that Newt has said Obama raising taxes will go to ‘his cronies’.
Not to his programs….or the poor…’his cronies’.
PA look ripe for the picking kids
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribunereview/news/election/s_594532.html
Larry,
This was sent to me from the Latinos4Reform.com site owners.
If time allows, please put attention to this youtube……it’s crunch time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAyg4qWGaDA
(Translation): Barack Obama a friend of the Latino community? The record demonstrates the opposite.
Did you know that after the 2000 census that showed a tremendous growth of Latinos in Chicago, Obama told reporters in Chicago that while everyone agrees that the Hispanic population has grown, they cannot expand by taking power from the African-American community.
You heard right…but there’s more. Did you know that Obama has never hired a Latino to a senior position in his office throughout his legislative career?
Did you know that Obama has opposed trade with Mexico, Central America and Colombia, yet supports free trade with Africa?
And during the immigration debate in the senate, Obama ignored us in order to avoid upsetting labor unions and the voters in Iowa. And now after ignoring Latinos throughout his career, he promises us everything.
Please Mr. Obama, Latinos are tired of the empty promises from politicians, like yourself that offer us everything when you need our votes, but then forget about us.
Latinos, think it over, because the future is in your hands.
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With respect to the 2006 voter turnout compared to 2004, the off-year elections are ALWAYS lower in turnout. In point of fact, the chart at http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html shows that the turnout in 2006 was a larger percentage of the voting-age population than in 2002–when comparing the presidential-year elections, the increase in percentage was greater from 2002 to 2006, compared to 2000 to 2004. In 2002 the turnout was only 37% and in 2006, it was 43.6%l in 2000, the turnout was 51.3% while in 2004, the turnout was 55.3% (IOW, there was an increase of 6.6 percentage points between 2002 and 2006 whereas there was an increase of only 4 percentage points between 2000 and 2004). I also believe a part of 2004’s high voter turnout had to do with the large number of state amendments banning same-sex marriage (14 in 2004, compared to only 6 in 2006) which brought out more of the religious right base.
I think the polls are terribly off.
More people than ever before (I think it’s over 80%) refuse to respond to pollsters calls.
It would make sense to me that centrist dems who are voting (R) this year out of anger at the DNC may likely be in that 80%.
It also makes sense ecstatic Obama supporters high on hopey-changey would most likely chomp at the bit to tell pollsters he’s their choice.
This skews the polls entirely.
Add to that, pollsters are weighting responses for Obama more heavily because of the (Acorn) registered new voters.
You look at real politics and different polls have him anywhere from 4-points ahead to anywhere from 9-11-14 points ahead. RCP averages them to a 7-point lead.
But I think such wildly different polls taken on the same 2-day period (4-point lead verses 14-point lead, for example), makes me suspicious of any accuracy.
Also — my hubby noted something today.
Monday — polls had the race tighter much tighter and one poll had McCain ahead by a point.
The stock market rebounded.
Today, the MSM announces Obama is 10 points ahead — the stock market drops.
Has anyone else noticed that?
Larry, what are your predictions for this election? Do you think McCain still has a chance or that his trend line is only getting worse and he will not be able to win? Just wondering because I trust your judgment more than any of the morons on cable news.
Also, I find it interesting that AP has the race at a dead heat and Investors Business Daily poll has Obama ahead only by 4. However, FOX of all polls has Obama at a 10 point lead despite the fact that it is um…FOX. Do the conservatives want the country to believe that McCain can’t win the race so that they can take us by surprise on Election Day? I don’t understand FOX’s poll at all. I expect MSNBC and Zogby to be off as they usually are in the tank for Obama.
This is great. As always. It really helps to have someone trained in gathering intelligence do these jobs. Thank you Larry!
Then what you are saying is that if the people are getting most of their information from radio, then the Republicans have a natural advantage.
So where it counts the media is far more right-wing leading.