Palin Derangement Syndrome and Those Who Suffer From It
By Ani on October 23, 2008 at 6:40 PM in Barack Obama, Bernardine Dohrn, Bill Ayers, Bill Clinton, Elitism, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Joe The Plumber, John McCain, Sarah Palin, Sexism
I made the mistake recently of attempting to debate the election with some buddies of mine, lifelong Democrats who, though they were fans of Hillary’s and voted for her, now have been assimilated into the Borg that is Obama. Well, he’s a Democrat, right???
If he’s a Democrat, I’ll pass. Thanks.
And since I registered as an Independent June 7th, the day Hillary suspended, as a protest to the ‘election selection’, I figure I am immune from the “Obama Collective.”
So there I was the other day, invited into a political debate via email, painstakingly composing all sorts of facts, figures and associations of Obama that would certainly give any reasonable person pause.
You know the litany: 130 present votes, 6 wrong votes, reneging on FISA, NAFTA, public financing, women’s rights, don’t ask don’t tell, Iraq, Israel. Bitter Gate. Sweetie Gate. I mention ACORN, the Fannie and Freddie scandal, caucus fraud, Ayers, Dohrn, Wright, Rezko Auchi, Pleger, Meeks, Pritzker, Khalidi, Al Mansour and the piece de resistance, picking the bloviating, endlessly gaffe prone – Joe Biden. Wow, what judgment, Barack!!!!
I send facts and figures together with, I must say, a rather cogent argument.
They counter with: McCain will croak in office within two months and Palin, spawn of the devil, will be President and ship us all back to the stone age.
I send more info. They reply with: lalalalalalalalalalalalalalala, but he’s a Democrat and we need change.
These are educated people. M’kay.
They tell me I am bitter than Hillary didn’t win. They tell me the people who are for McCain/Palin are from red states and are low-information voters. Oy vey!
I remind them that Howard Stern had an adorable little video out the other day interviewing NY Obama supporters who were very approving of the fact that Obama had selected Palin as his VP! Go listen for yourself. High information, indeed.
Boy, it must be nice to be a big city Dem and think you know every damned thing, huh? I sure found out from my 800+ GOTV phone calls for Hillary, speaking to plenty of red state voters of both parties, there are a lot of very interesting and well informed people out there.
So these big city slickers better get off their high horses and stop treating everybody else like “the fly-over people.”
To that end, one of our readers put up a wonderful comment in response to my story re Governor Palin’s great speech on behalf of women in Henderson, NV the other day.
To LJ, we thank you for a great post. Enjoy…
“Thank you No Quarter! It’s not easy being a young, female liberal-turned-conservative in New York City – your posts and your reader community keep me sane. I can’t wait to cast my vote for McCain/Palin ‘08!! I sincerely hope we use the momentum and inspiration of the 2008 campaign to better our country even after Election Day. Like Sarah said, “never again!” Do not forget how we’ve been duped by party politics and how our economy was wrecked by corrupt politicians and their social-engineering programs. We should scrutinize every politician who wants OUR vote the way we have scrutinized McCain and Obama…freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.
I’ve been rooting for McCain since the first debate, when he offered insightful, realizable solutions and showed the depth of his foreign policy experience. He inspired me to get out in my community and help where I can (by volunteering mostly). My boyfriend was also a Navy man and served this country. There is something these boys have – honor, respect for “the office, not the man”, love of country, love of service – they don’t complain, they do something about it. McCain may not be right 100% of the time as President (no one is), but from what I have seen, he will lead our country with courage and pragmatism.
As for Governor Palin, I was intrigued by her at first. I didn’t know anything about her so I didn’t pre-judge. I think her personal story is compelling (despite my fancy education, I have a lot of respect for people who worked their way up and are self-made). I think she has demonstrated experience running an executive office and negotiating with powerful interests, like the Alaska legislature and the oil companies. When you actually listen to her on the campaign trail and read the FULL versions of her interviews (not that travesty of an interview done by Charles Gibson in which half of what she said was cut out so she sounded incoherent), she is insightful and pragmatic on many issues. Faced with the Democratic choice of an inexperienced, machine party politician from Chicago, a run-at-the-mouth career politician, and the triple threat of a liberal supermajority in the WH, Congress and the Supreme Court…I am willing to give Sarah a chance.
However, my office has become inflicted with Palin Derangement Syndrome. Every day, they drag in “news” about her SAT scores, about how many colleges she went to, about her “prom queen hair”, about how she has no “family values” because her daughter is pregnant. It’s constant “Harvard good!,” “state school bad!” I don’t want to shatter their delusions and tell them Obama probably got into Harvard due to affirmative action policies and since he won’t release his scores, you don’t know how poorly or well he did (btw – these are the same affirmative action policies the New Yorkers grumble about because it keeps their prep-schooled, Kaplan-tutored kids from getting into their mommy or daddy’s alma mater. Hypocrisy stinks.)
It is sad that the so-called “educated” New Yorkers who pride themselves on how many degrees they have and how many museums they attend in a weekend can only resort to insults, ridicule and their own brand of fear-mongering (”She’s a redneck! She shoots moose! she believes in creationism!”). The women who hate Sarah because she is a conservative are the flag carriers of the “femi-nazi” movement. They think because she thinks differently, she has somehow betrayed women.
I consider myself a strong, independent women who can fight my own battles and I’ll wear heels and lipstick while doing it – thank you very much.
I appreciate the feminists who have made it possible for us to keep breaking the glass ceiling, but these “femi-nazis” would just as readily tear down any woman or man who doesn’t fall in line with their agenda. They don’t stand up and cry “foul” when those awful shirts about Sarah are worn. They don’t say boo about violence toward women when there is an artist in NYC who has erected a cardboard cutout of Sarah in a gallery and participants can take a SHOTGUN and SHOOT at the cutout.
I am not for stopping their right to act like fools and rabid dogs under the 1st Amendment, but maybe a public condemnation against this exhibit from a WOMEN’S ADVOCACY GROUP might be in order?! Doesn’t this de-sensitize violence against women?! The ACLU brings legal action against Christmas displays and the military’s flag-folding ceremonies…and this behavior doesn’t even get a stern frown or a letter from NOW??!!! They should be called NOW WHAT because they have no idea what to fight for anymore.
The funniest thing is, when I ask these “intellectuals” to debate me on the issues (since I actually KNOW what I am talking about and can give them a run for their money
, they don’t bite. It’s easier for them to sit in the warm glow of PDS, feeling oh-so-smart about themselves. Palin Derangement Syndrome is the new Bush Derangement Syndrome.”
Excellent, LJ.
And let us not forget Clinton Derangement Syndrome. Lord knows, we suffered through that one lo these many months. Brave Hillary and her family suffered most of all. How tragic that Hillary opened the door for Sarah Palin to step through, when Hillary, more than anyone, deserved to step through it herself. Hopefully, some years from now, Hillary will.
If McPalin can surmount the Obama Collective’s Money Printing Machine and the MSM, otherwise known as Barack’s personal PR firm, Hillary’s daily flogging may indirectly be an aid to getting them elected. We are now hyper aware and ready to fight back. We will never again be caught off guard.
I am ashamed of men so lacking in self awareness they would vilify a woman, revealing their own insecurity with themselves. Likewise, I am ashamed of women using sexist attacks to degrade yet another woman, not caring that they both degrade and betray themselves, and all of us, in the process.
How gratifying to know that there are high-information voters out there, on both coasts and everywhere in between, who know better than to drink the kool-aid and can think very well for themselves.
More power to you all.
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You guys need to head over to cannonfire. More evidence of violence. It’s getting worse.
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/
Ani, thank you a thousand times for this beautiful, maddening essay. I couldn’t agree more.
And thank you LJ for that post. You’re not alone. I feel for you as a liberal-turned-conservative in NY. I’m the same thing in LA.
It’s like religion with Obama (we don’t call them cultists for nothing), so reasoning doesn’t enter into it. You know they claim they put their trust i.e. faith in him to make everything right.
You can present ALL the facts in the world, but for people going on a belief it will never matter to them.
At this point you just gotta go on the following guidelines….
Don’t argue with them.
Don’t try to reason with them.
Just DEFEAT them.
Period!
I totally agree…well said. People like that are missing a biological chromosone or gene or just have a personality disorder. Everything is based on emotion, not fact. Someone in my family is like that. After many years a counselor gave me the 411 and said not to even engage-it’s frustrating, maddening and totally pointless.
OMG I saw that xax. Nasty. This is what the Obama world will be. Ughhh….
As for Palin? They’re all jealous. She’s amazing. I knew about her a long, long time ago and prayed that McCain would choose her. She will run this country some day and she’s exactly what we need. I am sick and tired of these elitist communist liberal nuts saying you are a redneck if you don’t vote for Obama. They should have my IQ and education, I live in LA, and the only people I think are missing a chromosome in their brain are the idiots voting for Obama. Period. I am ashamed that people like that call themselves American. They belong in CUBA with Fidel for all of the crap they keep putting America through with their socialists leftie rhetoric. We’re not rednecks, we’re AMERICANS. The only thing “red” about me is my blood. AMERICAN BLOOD.
Great Ani.
Did you mention to your Hillary turned Obama supporting friends that just a few months ago, THEY were the uneducated, ill informed, racist voters that weren’t voting for Obama?
LOL!
Yes — I absolutely did — you know the answer to that one???
*crickets*
LOL!!
…these “femi-nazis” would just as readily tear down any woman…who doesn’t fall in line with their agenda.
You betcha!
Reason doesn’t work on the zombified Obots, that much is clear, Ani. Collective loss of rational minds with them. I almost lost a fellow Dem friend due to her final summing up that ‘the end justifies the means’ to my expressed my disgust with the corrupt BH0 campaign through the primaries and now. At least we can still work together despite my absolute shock at her remark!
Thank you for reprinting LJ’s comment here. I can imagine how awful it must be for her to have to deal with these PDS-poisoned Noo Yawkers she meets daily! I’m glad I don’t live or work amongst these arrogant, elitist types – just like their sociopathic, narcissistic, arrogant, elitist Dear Leader!
Though I no longer live there, speaking as a native New Yorker, I can promise you that not everyone in that city is drinking the koolaid.
Libbygurl,
I just lost a long time friend but without regret.
I have told myself not to talk with her about the election but I could not stand her any more when she said that Palin is a “monster”. Whatever facts I mentioned about Obama, according to her are all “right wing propaganda.” When I told her about Obama’s hiding his birth certificate, she said that Obama’s birth document is “nobody’s business.” I reminded my friend that she is a lawyer (indeed) and she has taken the oath to protect the US Constitution.
When people can not reason, what can we do about it?
Part of the reason people are so delusional and willing to accept any b.s. from Obama and vote for him anyway is that they suffer from Bush Syndrome.
On that count, I cannot say I blame them.
They so associate Republicans with the Bush/Cheney/Rovian vileness we have had these past 8 years that, as a friend said to me, he would vote for a Geranium as long as he was a Democrat.
It has made people irrational. It doesn’t matter than McCain is a very very far cry from Bush. They cannot hear it or accept it.
Don’t look now, but a geranium is actually what they are voting for.
Ani,
My friend supports Obama. She does not criticize McCain but she deeply hates Palin. Probably, social psychologists can help we women to understand what’s wrong.
Regarding George W. bush, because the MSM and Hollywood are so biased that I do not know how much we really know about George W. Bush, and whether we can have a fair judgment about his administration at this moment. I will have to do my own research on statistics and other facts to draw my conclusion.
Obama is solely responsible for this insanity and violent, misogynistic cult he’s created. Not George Bush’s fault in any way, shape or form.
I agree with you that Obama is completely responsible for this cult of his. No doubt.
My point is that people’s feelings about Bush/Cheney created fertile ground for them to allow themselves to be seduced.
Certainly not every one of Obama supporters is vile, many are just willfully blind. And they get their news from the MSM so they are unaware of 75% of Obama’s tactics. Too busy with the MSM lovefest.
I can sadly agree. I’ve stoppped discussing it with my brother adn a clsoe friend. it’s likea religion to them adn they can’t see through a thing. take the credit card fraud issue on the obama website, plain for all to see right………..my normal friend tries to rationalise it…maybe it’s poor people with no credit cards using disposable credit cards…..huh, dont u think they need the money for gas ??
I’m at the stage now where I think some of these people deserve what they get.
well, a few less votes for Obama in Ohio.
“Remember them? The Vote From Home kids? Chasin’ the dream of Hope and Change by declaring a house in Columbus, Ohio their “residence” a month or two before the election so that they could vote for The One? The local prosecutor finally canceled their registrations today and politely reminded them that there’s more to residency than a simple say-so. Unless you’re donating online to Barack Obama, of course.
Palestra, which has owned this story, provides the coup de grace — public admission of malfeasance by the group’s spokesman. Do recall as you read the following that a bunch of these kids are Rhodes and Marshall scholars and that the Ohio secretary of state’s page on voting specifically provides, “Your voting residence is the place in which your habitation is fixed and to which, whenever you are absent, you intend to return. Your voting residence should be one you consider to be permanent, not temporary.”
Let there be no doubt, we firmly believed we satisfied all requirements written on the Franklin County Board of Elections Voter Registration Form.
Nevertheless, we did not understand the state’s technical definition of “resident,” and registered not knowing that. Our intention was to register in the community we had become so involved in, but because of our misunderstanding we will not be able to vote in Ohio and may not be able to vote in this election at all. We highly value the importance of a free and fair election, and hope that others will take the necessary steps to ensure they fully meet Ohio’s residency requirements before registering to vote. Speaking directly to the people of Ohio, our mistake was an honest one, but it was a mistake nonetheless. Without reservation, we apologize to the community, which has been so welcoming to us, for the problems this misunderstanding has caused. Thank you.
thanks for this update
This is a relief — thanks!
So-called “scholars” (and community organizers?) arguing they didn’t know. So goes the dumbing down of American education. And they were working with voters, right? If they didn’t know, why were they leading voters?
They all ought to be prosecuted as felons, and if they aren’t it was happen everywhere — why are those without integrity not being held to a standard and being coddled?
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Brings a new meaning to “low information voters”, doesn’t it?
Hey y’all,
check out the Joe and Jo the Plumber videos submitted over at McCain’s site:
http://www.johnmccain.com/content/default.aspx?guid=8b14b7cf-bf1f-4c3f-8ee3-dc6b68912742
OT but flu season is coming and see what the gov is doing…www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcniJxck0gI
excellent post Ani, thank you!
Everyone, women and men alike, please be on your guard and be careful. Don’t go to ATM’s at night or in a secluded area. Be smart. This incident is exactly why I won’t put a McCain bumper sticker on my car. It’s not worth getting hurt over. We can have our say in the voting booth.
Unfortunately history will probably remember Obama as someone prominent and inspirational instead of the lying, cheating, scumbag, socialist asshole that he is.
Hey wodiej. There is now a picture of the poor girl on Drudge. She has a black eye and a “B” on her right cheek. I sincerely hope they catch the guy who did this to her. It has become pretty obvious that Obama attracts the “dregs of society” for supporters.
Or at least put on an Obama t-shirt, when you go out. Just to be safe.
haha
Hopefully the RICO suit will bring Obama an indictment and then we can always look forward to Fitzgerald’s indictment for Obama’s dirty dealings with the Chicago combine and Tony Rezko. I won’t be happy until he is completely exposed – nothing less. That would be beneficial to this country. That would help protect it.
To the media.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvuxDm_a9bU
Maverick-
This video is great.
I love it.
This video is great.
Ani, Susan, Larry –
Can we make October 29th National Turn Off Your TV nite? Can we make it a story and spread it around?
I AM TOLD IT WORKS BETTER IF BOLDED…*****
AND IF OBNOXIOUS***** $)@)*#&!)(*^#!)&^%)!#*)(*!@
SUSAN, LARRY AND ANI
CAN WE DECLARE OCTOBER 29TH NATIONAL TURN OFF THE TV NITE? MAKE IT A STORY AND POST ALL OVER?
Yes — I see your post and I will pass thw word to the powers that be at NoQ!!
While yelling is not required, FEEL FREE!!!
I second the motion!
Use the evening of the 29th to go out a buy supplies just incase of election day/night violence.
By turning off the TV in the tens of thousands we send a message to the MSM that we object to the violation of our Voting System that they have aided and abbetted.
By shopping we do help the economy and ourselves. If we are prepared for the violence and it doesn’t come great. If the violence comes we are safe and need not risk being hurt.
29 OCT 2008 Riot Prep night. NO TV.
Over on bigheaddc.. …
post #355 xbjllb.. has posted photos of a person they claim is Obama’s mother in a very unusual manner. Nude.
I think it looks like her. Sadly.
do you think so? i didn’t… she has a thin chin like his mom, but i wasn’t seeing it too much. :OS
I think the pictures looked exactly like her. His mother had a strange body shape and so does the women in the picture.
If you look at the albums closely it appears to be a black singer on the cover. Not that that means a whole lot but if the pictures were taken by Frank Davis, it could mean something.
Holy cow. wow. That’s why I love this blog. Just never know what your gonna find. Geez Louise.
Those are Photoshopped bodies with her head added.
I don’t know. Look at the earrings and necklace. If it was photochopped, then there were be originals (not nude photos) with her head turned in weird positions, wearing the same earrings and necklace. I’ve only seen maybe a half dozen pictures of her…none look like these.
The 2nd picture looks just like her.
Damn, she really f’d up her son. I never understood women like that. I’d die to protect my kids…both physically and emotionally.
The pictures on bigheaddc are on the Pie thread
#355 xbjllb…yikes.
Great work as usual Ani!
thank you
I like the idea of a screwball VP who just says whatever insanity pops into their head. Any way I can vote for McCain and Biden?
I don’t. Palin is my hero.
I’m starting to think that all is lost because of the constant negativity and because so many people have lost the ability to think straight. A few people I knew who have always been anti-left and pro-free market have told me that they’re rooting for Obama “without question” because “he seems more solid than McCain” and he’s “inspirational.”
People aren’t even talking about ideology or policies any more. I outline what’s wrong with Obama’s tax plan and they just stare and me glassy eyed and say “but we need a change.” People really are losing their minds and it is sad to see.
Fox News has lost my respect. I did actually think they were against Obama being elected, but now it seems that even right wing stalwarts like O’Reilly and Hannity have given up. O’Reilly is so obsessed with trying to appear “fair and balanced” that he defends Obama any chance he gets and plays down his odious past. Like McCain, he’s playing the old fool who’s lost the will to fight.
Hannity is pathetic. He is obviously on our side, but his debate skills are so lightweight he lets Colmes and any pro-Obama guests walk all over him and get the last word. He ALWAYS lets the last word go to Colmes and the guest. A couple of nights ago I saw him arguing with an Obamabot about taxes and there were SO many holes in the Obamabot’s reasoning I could not believe that Hannity let him get away with it. The guy got the last word, Colmes added a pathetic little flourish of his own, it was all easily refutable and Hannity said nothing.
I’m watching O’Reilly the miserable bastard right now – he’s just so negative and keeps saying it’s all over. Thank God for the likes of Dick Morris who is always positive. Negativity will spread like a cancer and make people think there’s no point voting. What the hell is Fox doing?
Oh please , I’m listening to Hannity right now and nothing could be further from the truth. Hannity’s in for the long haul and is often doing morale boosts for those who have become depressed about All Bobo All the time.
Listen, I understand that Hannity is our best hope and has done much in the way of smashing the Obama myth – his segments on Obama’s radical past have been excellent, for instance.
But you can’t deny that in critical moments, he lets Colmes the weed walk all over him and he lets too many Obamabots have the last word on issues that are so easily refutable.
Colmes is annoying. He just spews the standard retorts to charges against Obama and then quickly changes the subject to prevent anyone from offering an counter argument…have you noticed this? He’ll say “Well Republicans also served on the same board as Ayers BUT ANYWAY…”
The thing about the Obama campaign is that it’s all based on half truths and shallow populism. Unfortunately, although I respect Hannity for his intentions, he just doesn’t have the debate skills necessary to set the record straight and keep it set.
O’Reilly has been completely neutered. I don’t know what happened to him. He wimped out. Hannity is relentless, pounding the issues every day.
Hannity is relentless. He is not letting up ever.
I understand that O’Reilly is giving McCain a free half hour (or maybe it was half of his show) on October 29th as counter-programming to the Obie-Fest on other channels.
You need not listen to the nay sayers and assholes.
They have no more sway than you give them.
The polls will tighten and if we are all dilegent we will see a female VP take the senate by storm.
Many people say to me that they think Palin is unqualified. When the argument that she is #2 on the ticket compared to totally unqualified #1 on the Dem ticket, they still foment their disgust about her lack of credentials.
Then I say, “hey, I would vote for you–its a matter of having good sense, which you do”. then they shut up.
LOL…good one.
Just point out to them that Only Palin has deployed troops to war and to natural disater relief. Only Palin has balanced a state budget.
Only Palin has acted to give equal coverage to homosexual partners.
Palin has negotiated successfully for a natual gas pipeline that has been in limbo for more than 30 years.
Palin has acted decisively on budgets and cut waste and has gone after corruption in her own party.
Palin knows what it costs to feed and clothe a family and buys her own diapers just like you and me.
Palin has the admiration of people on both sides of the aisle in her home state and has worked successfully with them.
Governor Palin is more qualified for the job of POTUS today than Barack Obama.
And luck for us she will have at least 4 years to study up under a very qualified man, John McCain. The same man who reached across the aisle to Hillary CLinton with out guile to help make her feel welcome in the US Senate.
Tell me Obama what have you done in your life that shows tenacity and the ability to succeed at the tasks promised.
If the CAC is a measure you are a disaster on budgets and education.
If your voting record in Illinios is a measure, you are a failure on standing up for hard decisions, except for killing live babies.
If your judgement is a measure what do Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Nesbit, Pritzker, Davis, Acorn, SDS, New Party, FISA, NAFTA debacle, and Joe Biden say?
What about your attack on “Joe the Plumber” who only asked you a question?
What about the little old lady who asked you a question?
4 days 4 reaponses to Russia’s naked agression into Georgia?
2 days 2 stances on Israel and the status of Jerusalem?
The leaders of Iran, Cuba, & Venezula?
Supporting your East German educated cousin in an election in Kenya? Campaigning for him on my dime? He incited GENOCIDE, asshat!
OK, Yea Palin is an easy choice. SHe is loyal to the country. SHe understands the American dream and is living it.
She puts country before self.
Screw Obama.
Oreilly is a downer these days, and seems even more focused on himself.
Stay positve, I’m seeing alot of momentum up here in NH. It is not over.
McCain didn’t start to close up here until 8 days before the primary.
People know him, and are waiting to see if BO can close the deal before they committ to MCCain.
The campaign has been pouring resources into the office I am volunteering in..
The trouble is that Fox News is the only media outlet which isn’t 100% in the tank for Obama, yet they are doing absolutely nothing to get solid anti-Obama voices across.
They need forceful, adamant, articulate guests who know what they are talking about and who are not afraid to tell Obamabots to shut the hell up and listen and that they’re wrong wrong wrong. And O’Reilly needs to stop interrupting good points and throwing his hands up and saying, “Look. It’s obviously a very complicated issue…”
No it’s NOT, O’Reilly! It’s very simple! Obama’s tax plan is wrong! Investors Business Daily have torn it apart, the Wall Street Journal have taken it apart. To anyone who has knowledge of economics, it’s a disaster! And yet Fox continually allows Obamabots to sit there and repeat the same mantra over and over: “People know that Obama’s plan will be good for them….people are hurting…Obama will give them a tax cut….tax increases won’t hurt big business…failed policies of the last 8 years….deregulation..blah blah blah”
A school kid could refute these things. Better still, a real economist. Why does Fox news continue to allow this pro-Obama nonsense to escape challenge? I’m screaming at my TV every single night.
O’Reilly is starting to wakr back up however, because he saw his ratings drop as doon as he was nicer to BO.
Is this really the kind of person we want as our next president?!
Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign says his campaign will bring a new level of honesty and transparency to the White House. Obama proudly touts that he and Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla, passed a law requiring more transparency via a public database of all federal spending.
But when it comes to offering the public documents about his own public and private activities, Obama’s record for openness gets an “F” grade.
During the heated Democratic primary, Obama complained of the Bush White House being “one of the most secretive administrations in our history” and chided Sen. Hillary Clinton for not releasing her White House schedules.
Ironically, Obama, just days away from possibly being elected president, continues to stonewall a growing chorus of information requests for documents about his legislative, personal health, education, financing, and background — leaving many voters to cast ballots based on incomplete information.
And serious questions about his past continue to swirl as Election Day looms, fueled in part by his own campaign’s refusal to make relevant documents available.
And the press, usually banging at the door for candidates to make “full disclosure” is strangely quiet about Obama’s stonewalling.
A Newsmax survey of key Obama aspects of Obama’s public and private life continued to be shielded from the public.
Among the examples:
Obama has released just one brief document detailing his personal health. McCain, on the other hands, released what he said was his complete medical file totaling more than 1500 pages. After criticism on the matter, last week the Obama campaign also released some routine lab-test results and electrocardiograms for Obama. All test results appeared normal, but many details about his health remain a mystery.
Obama has refused to offer his official papers as a state legislator in Illinois, and has been unable to produce correspondence, such as letters from lobbyists and other correspondence from his days in the Illinois state senate. There are also no appointment calendars available of his official activities. “It could have been thrown out,” Obama said while on the campaign trail during the Democratic primary. “I haven’t been in the state Senate now for quite some time.”
Obama has not released his client list as an attorney or his billing records. Obama has maintained that he only performed a few hours of legal work for a nonprofit organization with ties to Tony Rezko, the Chicago businessman convicted of fraud in June. But he has not released billing records that would prove this assertion.
Obama won’t release his college records from Occidental College where he studied for two years before transferring to Columbia.
Obama’s campaign refuses to give Columbia University, where he earned an undergraduate degree in political science, permission to release his transcripts. Such transcripts would list the courses Obama took, and his grades. President George W. Bush, and presidential contenders Al Gore and John Kerry, all released their college transcripts. (McCain has refused to release his Naval Academy transcript.)
Obama’s college dissertation has simply disappeared from Columbia Universities archives. In July, in response to a flurry of requests to review Obama’s senior thesis at the Ivy League school, reportedly titled “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament,” Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt told NBC News “We do not have a copy of the course paper you requested and neither does Columbia University.”
The senator has not agreed to the release of his application to the Illinois state bar, which would clear up intermittent allegations that his application to the bar may have been inaccurate.
Jim Geraghty of the National Review has written extensively about Obama’s unwillingness to release records related to clients he represented while he was an attorney with the Chicago law firm of Davis, Miner, Barnhill, and Gallard. Obama was required to list his clients during his years in the Illinois senate. “Obama listed every client of the firm,” Geraghty reported, making it impossible to discern which clients he represented.
Obama has never released records from his time at Harvard Law School.
Obama also has not disclosed the names of small donors giving $200 or less to his campaign. An exception to the finance-reporting laws exempts the campaign from reporting those who donate less than $200, but that law never envisioned the more than $300 million that has been raised by Obama in small amounts. The Republican National Committee has released its small donors, as well as McCain’s, on a public database.
On several occasions, the Obama campaign has offered to provide additional information to reporters if they have specific questions or issues. And in some cases, it has done so.
When Internet rumors began to fly that perhaps Obama was born outside the United States, for example, the campaign released images of a birth certificate that verified his birthplace as Honolulu, Hawaii. When that led to suggestions the birth certificate had been altered, the campaign again responded, allowing reporters to examine the actual birth certificate, complete with raised seal. (In late July, according to FactCheck.org, a researcher uncovered an announcement of Obama’s birth in the August 13, 1961 edition of the Honolulu Advertiser).
Such instances of cooperation pale, however, compared to the many unanswered questions surrounding Obama, such as the financing of his education, and requests for the complete release of all donors to his campaign.
Of course, candidates are often reticent to disclose any information that opposition researchers could use against them.
But Politico.com notes that the Obama’s failure to share documents is “part of his campaign’s broader pattern of rarely volunteering information or documents about the candidate, even when relatively innocuous.”
The hue and cry from the media for disclosure usually forces candidates to release sought after documents. But the press has largely acquiesced to Obama’s stonewalling.
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As for John McCain’s transcripts.
He graduated 5th from the bottom of his class. He probable had a low C to a high D average. THe courses he took are a matter of public record because the Academies have very strict courses of study unlike regular colleges.
He took at least 3 years of English, 2 years of a foreign language, 4 years of mathematics, physics, electrical engineering, behavior and leadership courses, naval training, physical education, Philosophy, military strategy, history, economics, and etiquette. That is a general feel for the military academy course load in the 1960’s.
Art appreciation, social anarchy and “finding yourself” are not generally included in a military academy curriculum
I wrote a letter to the editor today, as well. I reported my impression of the way the 3 women who made it to the POTUS fared, so far. As you can imagine it is very sad.
I wrote of Ferraro, Hillary and Palin and the way the MSM and political machines have treated them.
sara in italy,
I thought the pictures did look like the picture of her and BO when he was little. Check out the shape of her face and her ears.
To all we are discussing the pictures that are alleged to be BO’s mother posted over @ bigheaddc, post #355 xbjllb…
maybe they do… her teeth/mouth looks like her, too.
OK, now that I have seen this side by side, it DOES look like her!
How sad!
what thread?
like who?
It is Photoshopped!!!! The picture of her face was attached to the picture of the body.
Why do you keep saying it’s photo shopped? Doesn’t look like it to me.
You think so? Then show me the original picture (must be on the web somewhere), with her face looking off like that, hair like that & earrings & necklace… Then I’ll believe you.
I don’t believe there is a true “feminist movement” anymore. You know where all women are held up by other women. I think there is only a progressive womens ideology.
If you’re a welfare mom of 6 kids, the progessive ideology embraces you. If you’re a young lady that sleeps around and has abortions, they love you too. If your a wealthy and highly educated woman who donates big bucks to Obama they love you best of all.
However, if you’re a self made woman who comes from a humble background, works hard, and has individual accomplishments but who also has moderate to conservative views, well you WILL BE DESTROYED.
I know many women who are like Gov. Palin. They aren’t Gov’s but they are bright, successful and acomplished of their own accord. They are the equal if not the better of many men I know.
I admire and respect anyone of any gender who is self made. The fact that they try so desperately to destroy her makes me sad and angry. They are doing this to my sisters, my female friends, my wife, etc.
What saddens me most is that much of the damage is being done by other women. Look, I don’t share many of Gov. Palin’s views, but I know the rigtht stuff when I see it. I think how tremendous it would be if a woman, any woman, but especially someone like Gov. Palin was VP.
I fear that if she fails due to these attacks it will only make it more difficult for the next woman. This is a fact lost on the progressive woman. Self defeat is such an ugly thing and ultimately hurts all women.
I voted early and voted for McCain/Palin. It was the right choice for many reasons but I have to tell you that there was a little personal satisfaction too. My one little vote was a vote for decency and against the vile attacks that GOv. Palin has endured. It too was for my daughter, who one day might have the audacity to run for VP though she might not be part of the progressive elite. I did it for her and the hope that America will be a better place one day for her and all her sisters out there.
Sarah won’t fail, even if McCain does not win it this time around, she will DEFINITELY run in 2012, she is the future of the Republican. Anyone that votes for Obama deserves what they are gonna get, they think the Jimmy Carter years were bad, they ain’t seen nothing yet, so good, let the Democrats destroy this country, and then they will come crying back saying that us Republicans were right all along. Sometimes it takes something horrible to happen in order for them to see the truth. Don’t worry about Sarah, she’s fine, she is beautiful on the outside and inside, has a wonderful family, great parents who raised her right, a state that adores her, and she has God on her side, the skies the limit for Sarah she is the future of America
You really should read the Alaska newspapers. They’re on-line, you know. Governor Palin will be lucky to win her primary for re-election. And there are rumblings about a sanction from the Republican controlled state legislation for abuse of power and improper billings to the state. Ya think that will help her get the 2012 nomination?
Deb, if BH Obama can be a nominee for POTUS, anyone can. He has a pathetic resume and he’s completely unqualified.
Debbie,
Your tone sucks.
Big turn-off.
debbie…and Obama is a liar and a thief.,,,,NEXT
Debbie,
Thanks for the voice of sanity in here.
You know what — you’ve lost it. This woman has 80% popularity there. Having just visited the state myself, I can attest to this. She is a great Governor and much beloved.
Nice try, though.
So you think people should vote for candidates because of the chromosomes they were born with? How very interesting!
No, just people who actually have chromosomes. So don’t worry, you’re not in the running!
Stop the hate!
I saw you post and just wanted to read “Stop the Hate”
Was pushed up thread and what do you know? an Obama chomosome bot is hating her some DNA.
Stop the hate!
You think Obama’s tax plan is the same as who?
Obama wants to raise capital gains tax. He wants to tax Social Security on people making over $250,000 increasing their tax to over 50% as stated on the O’reilly Factor. He wants to tax oil and natural gas “to get us off of it quicker”. There are other taxes that he wants that I can’t even think of now.
Who is he the same as?
Do you have something against women who are intelligent and qualified? Hmm, interesting.
John — thank you for your post.
So true. And well said.
Ladies, vote for your daughter’s sake.
I have 2 girls whom I treasure and I want thier future bright. John McCain looks for the best people and gender is not a guiding factor. (for the record he has more women on his Senate staff than either Barfy or Biden)
I want a leader that looks for talent in all quarters and doesn’t discriminate of the basis of gender or sexual orientation. McCain is than man and he will launch a great lady in Sarah Palin.
Where we disagree with her we will have to hold strong. But I believe she will listen to all the people.
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Summer08/RoguesGallery.html
This is the media that is running our country.
No, it’s the people who own the media.
They don’t deserve the name journalists. They are shills and propagandists, not journalists.
Hello everyone. I have VERY BIG announcement I will be making on the show tonight. I have been thinking about it alot these last couple of days. Just, sitting, thinking about the words of Senator Clinton…just a whole lot of things. I hope you will get the chance to tune in.
OMG!! What time?? I’ll actually allow CNN to pollute my TV to watch you.
http://www.rense.com/general83/mich.htm
So I guess this is the piece of the pie Barack Obama was talking about. This is a receipt of Michelle Obama’s little snack that she had at the Waldorf. Notice the Iranian Caviar, I guess she is getting ready for that meeting with Ahmadenejad, Oh well it’s all good, I guess Michelle was just spreading the wealth around
Has this been verified? Texas darlin took this off her blog because she could not verify it.
The newspaper that published this has retracted it since Michelle didn’t even stay at that hotel.
Try keeping up with the news sometime.
Link from Rense, naturally. Like No Quarter itself, all conspiracy, all the time.
Wingnut is a renewable resource
rense is a conspiracy site and the NY Post retracted this story…it’s been debunked.
It was a nonstory to begin with.
Great post Ani and I feel your pain. I’ve gone through similar experiences recently with friends and coworkers who consider themselves liberal, progressive Democrats. They’re really nothing of the sort. And dare I say my female friends are at least as vitriolic (if not more so) towards Palin than the men! It’s absolutely disgusting and despicable. These so-called progressives are nothing of the sort.
Obama has spawned a cult, and his cultists are fanatical and frightening. I broke up with a guy recently because he’s a bona fide nutcase Obot. He told me he’s going to call me all night long on Election night and brag if Obama wins!! Idiot LO-SER. I am so relieved and at peace to be free of the shackles of the Democratic Party, and to be in the midst of reasonable, open-minded, patriotic individuals like those here at NQ.
i think a lot of women are very eager to prove to men (and to themselves?) that they’re “on the team.” they want people to know that they’re not like like that stupid uppity bitch Palin, who doesn’t know how to stay in her place. i think blind partisanship combined with women’s natural tendency to demean themselves has produced this unfortunate reaction to Palin.
Amazing. The majority of Americans who see Palin as simply incompetent and ill-informed are deranged.
Who knew?
Come on Debbie, put Fox on you know you want to. LOL
ADMIN : someone shit themselves in aisle 2008-10-23 19:54:04
Clean up please.
LOL!!!!!!!!! Bring the hydrochloric acid.
You keep reading those polls, hon. She’s admired by most. She’s not admired by the Obamacrat thugs (and their media friends) because she and McCain will kick it on Nov 4.
KathyNeoCon…
I went through the same thing when my entire family, fiance included, was voting for Gore and I prayed for Bush. That won’t make me popular here, but I stand by the fact that we are way more secure and safe today after 9/11 BECAUSE of Bush and Gore was scary to me. Now, I hear the SAME crap all day long…people call me to quote the BS polls and the media nonsense about Palin. They gloat and tell me what an idiot I am for voting for McCain. Karma’s a B**tch. I know in my heart that God loves this country and its people too much to sell us out to socialism and terrorism. I just know it. Let’s all let them gloat, go vote, and claim our victory on November 4.
So God’s been against the progressive tax system, which has been in place since 1911 and supported by every American president?
You sure have amazing insights!
More Obot nonsense…
the progressive tax BTW is one of Karl Marx 14 points to evolving a Marxist state. Thought you might want to know.
Yeah, there’s no reasoning with them. One of my best friends almost sputters with rage when McCain’s name is mentioned. She’s a lost cause.
I have a big ol’ McCain/Palin sign I tape to the inside of my rear window of my car when I drive around LA just to piss off all the deranged hippies I see with Obama stickers on their cars. Of course I take the sign down when I park somewhere lest my car get keyed or worse.
TO HELL WITH YOU OBOTS!!! I DARE YOU to try to mess with me on Election night or riot out front of my place. You don’t scare me and you won’t scare me into becoming an Obama cultist!!!
Its like its not just socialistic narcissitic Obama we are fighting against. Its his zombie followers. Its going to be hard keeping a straight face when Davis-Obama LOSES BIG TIME.
Wonder how Geri Ryan (”7 of 9″) feels about her messy divorce being used by Soetoro to win his crooked US senate election.
Resistance is not futile — assimilate this!
Ani-great post. I’m from the bra-burning days at UC Berkeley and I think Palin is the epitome of what it means to be a feminist. ALL my friends and family (except my wonderful husband of 24 yrs) love to ridicule Palin. They can’t see their hypocrisy. But most of them just buy the msm’s trashing of her and don’t think for themselves. One woman who writes for the NYT said she was insulted that Mac chose Palin. What?
I’ve REALLY been impressed with Palin’s grace under fire.
I heard a discussion today on Fox that early voting has started and the Dems are really encouraged because so many Dems have voted early.
But guess what? My husband and I purposely kept our registration as Dems so when we vote for McCain our vote feels like a protest. So they shouldn’t be so sure that all the Dems voting early will be for Bambi. And we’re voting absentee here in CA.
I am a registered Democrat in CA voting absentee for McCain also.
Palin bashers and BO followers are pre-verbal. Human language is useless when dealing with them. They are much more inclined toward hatred, anger and violence. The better means when you encounter one is to remain silent and walk away–it totally deflates them.
Sarah on Hannity right now.
Ha! Sarah said Obama should “have a back bone” about ACORN.
ha! The spineless wonder.
The internet has done for todays’ society what the television did for the 1950’s generation and beyond. Except the internet is not only the library of Congress, its inter-active, its sharing of videos done by the common folk, in real time. That’s why a totalitarian minded regime of Obama’s will not take root.
Already you can feel the surge of ‘informed’ Americans rising up and ready to fight. First for McCain/Palin and then for America if necessary.
The coup perpetrated by the DNC and Obamacrats will be shortlived. The Counter-revolutionaries will make sure of that.
So Debbie,
Do you think that the alleged pictures of BO’s mother over @ bigheaddc are real??
They are on the Pie thread post #355 xbjllb..
what say you little troll, is that bo’s mother?
OT
The NY Times is losing revenue BIG TIME!
Hip hip Hoorah!
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=081023232610.187uwdxs&show_article=1
LOL re NYTimes!!!!!
Love this part of the article:
LOL!! They’re just scratching the surface.
The NYT’s credit rating has fallen to junk status along with their credibility rating.
If you check what Sarah Palin has done while in office, you will see she is a very intelligent woman. She is more qualified than Obama by far. What has he done?
She is made to look bad by the liberal media.
He’s tried to radicalize Chicago public schools.
KathyNeoCon,
I live in LA and drive around with all of my bumper stickers, have the signs all over my house, etc. I am sure I am asking for one of the losers like Debbie above to come to my house and violate it. Oh well. I’m armed too. Let them riot in the streets when OHitler loses his azz. He’s not even eligible to run. That’s the best part of it. ROFLMAO. One way or another, McCain/Palin is going to win.
More Palin Derangement:
There are still aspects of the Republican National Committee’s shopping sprees on behalf of Gov. Sarah Palin and her family that are murky.
…
Consider also the $4,902.45 charge at Atelier New York, a high-end men’s store, presumably for Ms. Palin’s husband, Todd, the famous First Dude.
Karlo Steel, an owner there, said he had gone through the store’s receipts for September, twice, and found no sales that matched that amount, nor any combination of sales that added up to the total. Because the store carries aggressively directional men’s wear, he caters to a small clientèle and knows most of his customers by name, as well as the history of their purchases.
thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/23/wardrobe-mysteries-linger/
And how do we know this is bullshit:
Karlo Steel, an owner there, said he had gone through the store’s receipts for September, twice, and found no sales that matched that amount, nor any combination of sales that added up to the total.
Please stop. The guy has noithing better to do than go through a months worth of receipts. Twice! Not only did he go through looking for that specific amount but he took the time to do all possible combinations. Then the nyts asks the guy to go through August sales and he does! Un. Fucking. Be. Lievable. They call that kinda thing bullshit in my neighborhood.
They are sick. The “shopping sprees” have been vetted more by the “liberal media” in 2 days than obama has been in 18 months.
All these idiots that think voting for Obama is so great because he will “spread the wealth around” are going to be in for a sad reality when they all start losing their jobs because their bosses are going to get so heavily taxed that it won’t be worth it to keep those employees. That’s why most leading economists say the worst thing you can do is raise taxes during a bad economy. Obama wants to raise taxes to fund more socialist programs. Wake up America before it’s too late!!!
I’ve heard the Republicans have an October surprise for Obamba. I only hope and pray it is true. I actually heard this from a reliable source
Well, it’s October 23rd so now would be a good time — no?
Maybe the real October surprise is all us Democrats voting Republican for the first time. I know I am surprised. If anyone told me six months ago I would vote for McCain, I would have told them they were totally insane.
Welcome to the Party friend!
I think that the October Surprises are coming. Tapes, birth certificates, videos of Osama Biden Laden praying to Allah, it’s all out there. Sad that McCain is too much of a gentleman to do it himself. But we can handle that stuff for him.
Rush, Savage both mentioned the birth ceritificate and his “Hawaii” trip today saying something was not right with this story……..
What to do about the Palin-Haters.
I have run up against the Palin-Hating hyenas myself and it’s astounding the supposed “facts” that they’ve chiseled into their rock-hard skulls and how rabid they are to hunt her down and rip her apart, limb from limb. Where do they get this stuff?
When asked the other day by a kindred spirit what to do about such encounters, rather than spending more of my valuable time, which I’m trying to devote to causes of good rather than to riding ‘round and ‘round on the Ferris Wheel of Whoppers with deranged fools, I thought to come up with a couple of quick suggestions.
First, tell them to go watch Sean Hannity’s interview with the Governor. Give it to them if they don’t have it. Let her tell them, in her own words, what she thinks rather than finding out from the check out line at the grocery.
And, strange as it might sound, go back and watch Charlie “I’m a Lot Smarter Than She Is and I Have the Harumph and the Sneer to Prove It” Gibson’s interview (more like a cross-examination than an interview). Listen to what she really says, not what the press told you she said.
Watch it in context of what we know now. She’s looking for reasonable questions and getting inside pitches from somebody obviously out to make a point rather than get information. They’d never done that before. They certainly didn’t do it with Obama, rather trying to turn slow pitch softball into the national pastime.
Then, go watch her recent one-on-one interview with the reporter in New Hampshire. Now that’s she’s figured out the interview is not always about the questions, she lets nothing by her and she’s as sharp as a razor. She ended up making me feel sorry for the poor reporter who’d been sent to interview her by the time it was over. It was painfully obvious that the reporter was totally unprepared to explain her questions or know what it was she was really asking.
Totally different picture. As they say, you be the judge.
Okay, so, what else? By the way, if they won’t look at any of this, then they value their opinion more than the truth and more than your friendship. Move on (to steal a name).
What else? Let’s see.
Governor Palin’s an idiot. The people of Alaska are all Eskimos living in igloos and are themselves as dumb as rocks for electing her in the first place and for liking her so damned much. They’re all fools.
A few notes, call them talking points if you like.
So, Governor Palin’s an idiot but, since she’s never left Alaska, nobody else knows she’s an idiot and we needed Tina Fey and Matt Damon to tell us. Ask your friends if they know that Governor Palin serves as Chair of what we call the Interstate Compact, The Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission, a multi-state government agency, and that she also serves as Chair of the National Governor’s Association Energy Committee?
Apparently, she’s not only fooled the people of Alaska, who are all sitting around the igloo eating seal fat, but she’s also managed to fool the other states of the union and her fellow Governors. And, if they care to read comments of Governors who serve with her, who have seen her present and preside at the NGA Energy meetings, they’d find out she’s anything BUT dumb.
Next. She doesn’t believe in evolution and is opposed to teaching it in schools. WRONG. Her dad was a science teacher, for goodness sake. Watch Hannity. Listen to what she says in her own words, if you really want to know what she thinks. Of course evolution should be taught in our school’s science classes. She’s never suggested otherwise.
She also doesn’t believe in global warming. WRONG. Do they know that, as Governor of Alaska, she established a Subcabinet entity on climate change, tasked specifically to develop a plan for Alaska to deal with this issue. And, listen to Charlie Gibson (he obviously wasn’t listening to her but I was). Her position? She never said man had nothing to do with Climate Change but, the point is, rather than arguing over who or what is responsible, we need to get to work and deal with it. Typical of her. Take action. Charlie would rather play semantics.
Have your friends actually heard this Governor speak, since she figured out the press really was not her friend? She wises up pretty quickly. And it shows.
When she won the Governor’s seat in Alaska, she and her opponents, the incumbent Republican and, later, the former U.S. Senator, debated numerous times and she thumped them, repeatedly, like a drum. People laughed about the story of the Obama campaign spokesman briefing the press on the plane headed for the Palin/Biden VP debate, telling the press that he’d studied every one of her debates in Alaska’s Gubernatorial campaign and not to underestimate this woman, she could bring it. Some members of the press openly laughed at him.
Why? Who knows. I often wonder why you see somebody in pants hanging off their ass and in a few weeks you see everybody else has to have their pants hanging off their ass, too. Or, among the “elite” I guess it’s the Birkenstock syndrome. All of a sudden, it’s the thing and, if you’re cool, too, you’re going to have them on your feet. And that makes you just a little bit better than somebody else. The story of human nature. Everybody, no matter how high or how low, needs to have somebody to look down on.
Today’s Starbucks special kick me doll? The Governor of Alaska. Does it make sense? No. But, neither does ordering coffee without any coffee in it filled with milk that has no milk in it. It becomes the thing and you’re not the thing unless you have it too and you know the slang of ordering. You have to tell the cashier just the way the cashier yells it out to the new-this-week Barista, and that means you’re better than somebody who just says, “Coffee, black.”
But, back to the challenge of the moment. How to pierce the she’s a dummy fantasy.
You know what? We’ve all got better things to do.
Let’s put it this way.
Governor Sarah Palin is dumb as a rock?
Yeah, you wish.
And if they don’t want to at least stop and listen, go make some calls or shake some hands because you’re wasting your time talking logic to a zealot.
Ever notice how much of it is about lists with Obama?
List of the records which he hasn’t released.
List of his flip-flops.
List of his unsavory allies, friends, mentors.
List of his gaffes.
List of his “present” votes.
List of his contributions from big Wall Street firms.
List of his ideologically incompatible supporters – from Paul Volcker to Cornel West – who met with him privately, then came out in public support of him.
I’ve surely left some lists out.
There’s a need for an Obama list list – an Obama meta-list.
Their hate makes Palin stronger and more wise every day. If you want to scare the Obama supporters who still have a bit of rational thinking left, remind them that if Barky wins, then the only thing standing in the way of a 2012 Palin presidency will be the mess created by a failed state-senator-made-president because of media coddling.
Oooohhh, I like that. Good point!
Wow. Excellent point.
I send facts and figures together with, I must say, a rather cogent argument.
They counter with: McCain will croak in office within two months and Palin, spawn of the devil, will be President and ship us all back to the stone age.
I send more info. They reply with: lalalalalalalalalalalalalalala, but he’s a Democrat and we need change.
These are educated people. M’kay.
Ani: I had this exact same experience on the phone with a friend last night. His brain is so programmed to “D,” he can’t break out of that box. He doesn’t even like or trust Obama, but thinks McCain is “old & crazy,” and Palin is dangerously unqualified. When I present actual facts, he goes round and round in circles. This went on for some time, and when he couldn’t defend the overwhelming information I presented, he paused and said, “What about the hate rallies?” That’s when I wanted to scream. This is a man who reads “The Nation,” “The Economist,” “The Atlantic,” etc. The media is guilty of severe malpractice.
And as pointed out by KC above, the media, the DNC and the rest of the country may live to regret the media coddling him — he is a crybaby and a political and moral coward.
Because he has been allowed to get away with this — with no solid policies or stance to speak of — we neither know what he is really going to do if he gets into office — or if he has the strength, or intestinal fortitude to see us through difficult times.
Judging by his past behavior, I tend to doubt it.
Just watched Hannity allow Colmes and his guests to walk all over him again. I’m pissed. Hannity is NOT good enough, I don’t care what anyone says.
After his interview with Palin he had on Bob Bekel and during a to and fro with him, Hannity mentioned socialism and “spread the wealth” and Bekel replied that spreading the wealth wouldn’t be a bad idea, that the rich had too much and it was about time they shared it. What did Hannity say? Nothing. He just let this blatant promotion of socialism go by without saying a damn thing.
Before you know it, Colmes is be-boppin’ and scattin’ all over the place with his sniveling little “hit and run” retorts.
End result? Another win for Colmes, another silent loss for Hannity. He just doesn’t know how to argue the issues – and there are arguments which trounce anything the Obama camp says. He sure knows how to recite talking points and catch phrases like “Joe the Plumber” and “spread the wealth” – but this is exactly what is wrong with the McCain campaign in general. If I see one more McCain speech in which he brings up Joe the Plumber I think I’ll scream. The problem is that the more they dwell on catchphrases the more it just comes across as a gimmick and starts to annoy. Your average undecided voter is going to switch on the TV and think “ho-hum, McCain’s still prattling on about Joe the Plumber?”
McCain and Hannity don’t know how to expound the issues which were raised by “Joe the Plumber.” Their angle is “the American public doesn’t like the idea of spreading the wealth” but the trouble is that a huge proportion quite obviously does like the idea! McCain needs to explain why this is a bad idea. There are extremely valid and convincing arguments that wealth redistribution harm prosperity and growth in the long run. There are extremely logical moral, economic, philosophical and historical reasons why socialism – or any degree of it – is a disaster. Papers like the Wall St Journal cite these arguments. Libertarian and right wing blogs explain these arguments all the time. But 95% of the population will never see any of these. This is why McCain and presenters like Hannity need to explain them.
But here’s the rub. They can’t. They don’t have the word flow, they don’t have the arguments, they’re not read up. The McCain campaign should have trained McCain in these arguments, but Rick James is an idiot and his lousy campaign strategy has a good chance of handing this country to a radical socialist as a result.
Hannity dammit, do your HOMEWORK! Do your RESEARCH! Start learning how to refute Colmes and his pals effectively! Forget about catchphrases and cliches. Stop letting Obamabots get the last word. Stop letting Colmes make his snide hit and run retorts. What the hell is going on?
On the plus side – Karl Rove is on Greta right now making good points and making them intelligently. I never thought I’d warm to Rove but I have.
Fred Thompson’s wife is good! She didn’t take any of Comlbs crap tonight. She’s starting a Palin call center. Didn’t catch it all but will watch the rerun.
One of my best friends called Palin a witch.I asked her why she said that and she said she did not know why and said she was sorry because she knew I liked her.She is a democrat but is not voting for Obama.But another gal said she absolutely hates her and that she is dispicable and went on to complain how the republicans are so nasty about Obama.I just thought you do not even ealize how ignorant you sound.I have already voted for Mccain and Palin—kept it to myself.Have been called racist because i supported Hillary.Still believe she was treated like a piece of –it.
I lost a friend who told me if Palin is elected, she will bring back witch hunts in this country.
You know, like Salem.
No kidding, she said that.
I responded very sweetly and professionally and sidestepped her little bit of insanity, but she immediately wrote back and dumped me when I did not climb right up on the wagon.
I am sorry to lose a friend, but sheeeeeeeeeeeesh.
jeezus christ. where do these people get their information from?
A guy tried to ‘get in my face’ this week. First, he tried to gang up on me, he turned to another O-bot, pointed to me and said, “he’s voting for McCain.” Oooooooh. So I said, “if you want to try to sell me on Obama, be my guest. I’m listening.” Nothing. They both looked at their shoes.
O-bots, what a joke. This is exactly how we got George Bush in the first place.
STAND UP,STAND UP AND FIGHT,FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY,DONT SHOW FEAR DONT SHOW DESPAIR STAND UP ,STAND UP AND FIGHT.WHAT WOULD THIS COUNTRY BE TODAY IF THE IRISH BRIGADE AT THE STONE WALL AT GETTYSBURG HAD JUST DECIDED TO QUIT,WHAT WOULD THIS COUNTRY BE IF ALL THOSE YOUNG AMERICANS HADNT JUMPED OUT OF AIRPLANES AND WADED THROUGH BLOODY SURF ON JUNE THE 6TH,AND HAD REFUSED TO GO BECAUSE IT WAS TOO HARD.WHAT WOULD THIS COUNTRY BE IF A BUNCH OF ILL CLOTHED FREEZING YOUNG MEN HADNT SAID NUTS AND GAVE UP.WE AS AMERICANS WHO LOVE THIS COUNTRY HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE BUT STAND UP AND FIGHT AND FIGHT TILL OUR LAST BREATH.WE CAN DO NO LESS.
Those were the men with George Washington, had it pretty bad crossing the river, and at the fort, and at many other places.
They’ve provided us with a democracy, if we can keep it. Eeyore time is over. Roll!
GOOD example but i ment the crazy bastards from the 101st at bastonge
Palin is a more frightening and intimidating figure to our enemies than Obama or Biden.
Putin who likes to show pictures of himself hunting and doing other outdoors sports and who has a military background, respects and fears Palin and McCain. Ahmadinejad fears the influence a strong female VP like Palin will have on the women in his country and the rest of the Middle East.
Pictures of Obama’s mother: http://www.mofopolitics.com/2008/10/22/barack-obamas-mother-poses-in-sexually-explicit-photographs/
The background story can be found at contrariancommentary.com, statement issued by Andy Martin.
I admire Sarah Palin. I came from an abusive home. I didn’t start college until I joined the military, was a single mom. I went to several community colleges, and today I have 3 degrees. One of which is a doctorate. I love Sarah’s hutzpah! I trust her so much more than Obama or Biden. When the O-Borg are tearing down Sarah, they are tearing me down as well.
Like all demagogues, Obama primarily tries to appeal to people’s emotions, and does so to great effect.
Of course it’s totally irrational to think that the POTUS is some almighty figure, but this emotive argument allows BO to cast Bush as a scapegoat, The Wellspring of All Evil, and himself as a hallowed lamb, THe One Who Will Heal The World. Tell emotive stuff that wouldn’t be misplaced by a lover-boy (you’re hurt, you’re special, only I see it, follow me and evreything will get better’) and get a group-dynamic by making the sheeple feel they Really Contribute To The Effort (get in ppl’s face, destroy a sign of the other ticket, register your dead fish as a voter, etc.). A symbol makes no sense rationaly, yet BO introduces a symbol for his campaign (iso the time-honored names-with-a-star), it allows his followers to feel special and set themselves apart from the ‘evil unbelievers’. Add a little nonsense chanting (YWC and Obama, the music vids they made of this inane behaviour are the ones that make me wanna puke the most) and sex-appeal, and voila, all the emotive responses a demagogue can dream of.
Once this emotional state is reached, rationality matters not anymore. The Howard-Stern/Illuminatitv vids show this most glaringly. People vote Obama because it/he makes them feel good, the objective of the BO campaign was to make people loathe McCain and the ‘Kill your parents’ crowd ate it up with spades.
Honestly, make ppl watch The Wave
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVRXXbU-z7U (prt1, esp 15.00+) & part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXi71XBdh1o it’s very enlightening.