Comments on: “Joe the Plumber” Smears Originated from Ohio State Officials http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:10:27 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: tcartwright http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-984136 tcartwright Sat, 01 Nov 2008 01:09:22 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-984136 McArtor is a registered Republican, according to public records. My guess is he listens to right wing radio so much that it turns his brains to mush. Amazing that threatening people's lives is apparently copacetic discussion of politics and government. Truly amazing and sad. McArtor is a registered Republican, according to public records.

My guess is he listens to right wing radio so much that it turns his brains to mush.

Amazing that threatening people’s lives is apparently copacetic discussion of politics and government.

Truly amazing and sad.

]]> By: Sally http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-963563 Sally Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:00:22 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-963563 Thank you friend for you uplifting note....and for understanding my rage rather that admonishing it. You see I am a Slav...a hot blooded now-free Slav--one who is tuned to feel the deadly approach of real evil when it comes knocking....based on our tragic experience-not genetics. Slav comes from SLAVE...in case you didn't know. I am willing to fight to the death before some BOZO Obama takes my freedoms away. You Americans just can't understand the terror an immigrant such as myself, feels at the prospect of subjugation of myself, my children, my country, my friends, and those Americans values I've grown to LOVE...... The American ideal is straight from God. When America is gone....western civilization is gone....God is gone. NOTHING IN THE WORLD CAN EVER REPLACE IT. EVER! Lord please bless our Troops....those I have the highest reverence for I wouldn't be caught dead negotiating with evil...I'ld just destroy it. WE do not give leniancy and understanding to our enemies...such people only turn on you and kill you....always. I wish you Americans, who have it all at stake with Obama bin Biden, would wake up and start using your God given ability to, feel urgency and HATE and act upon it with URGENCY every once in a while when it comes to your enemies(within bounds of our laws of course). These Marxist will kill you...kill you. Make no mistake....we have very little time left. They must be destroyed within the bounds of our laws and quick....every second Obama hangs around our kids he infects them with Marxism, anti-americanism, etc...and gains irrecoverable ground with them. Blah, Blah, Blah Think Staligrad massacre.....Slavs...its in our blood to be afraid and make sure we survive. Thank you friend for you uplifting note….and for understanding my rage rather that admonishing it.

You see I am a Slav…a hot blooded now-free Slav–one who is tuned to feel the deadly approach of real evil when it comes knocking….based on our tragic experience-not genetics. Slav comes from SLAVE…in case you didn’t know. I am willing to fight to the death before some BOZO Obama takes my freedoms away. You Americans just can’t understand the terror an immigrant such as myself, feels at the prospect of subjugation of myself, my children, my country, my friends, and those Americans values I’ve grown to LOVE……

The American ideal is straight from God. When America is gone….western civilization is gone….God is gone. NOTHING IN THE WORLD CAN EVER REPLACE IT. EVER!

Lord please bless our Troops….those I have the highest reverence for

I wouldn’t be caught dead negotiating with evil…I’ld just destroy it. WE do not give leniancy and understanding to our enemies…such people only turn on you and kill you….always.

I wish you Americans, who have it all at stake with Obama bin Biden, would wake up and start using your God given ability to, feel urgency and HATE and act upon it with URGENCY every once in a while when it comes to your enemies(within bounds of our laws of course).

These Marxist will kill you…kill you. Make no mistake….we have very little time left. They must be destroyed within the bounds of our laws and quick….every second Obama hangs around our kids he infects them with Marxism, anti-americanism, etc…and gains irrecoverable ground with them. Blah, Blah, Blah

Think Staligrad massacre…..Slavs…its in our blood to be afraid and make sure we survive.

]]> By: Sally http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-963428 Sally Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:05:05 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-963428 <blockquote>It isn’t just whether or not you win, but HOW you win. In Obama’s case, he will do ANYTHING to win regardless of how</blockquote> I appreciate what you're saying and why...."if you don't have honor you got nothing" etc. The problem is that we are obviously in an information war....WAR. When in war you gotta fight back. The other thing thats different than any other time in American history and hence makes it impossible to play by the "european" notion of galantry, honor, decency etc.....OBAMA is a trojoan horse MARXIST Islamicist....we don't have time to look nice...we only have time to destroy the TRAITOR. Sorry for the pessimism people....its true that lots of you have worked hard to keep people like me feel somewhat hopeful sometimes.....THANKS. But unfortunately, my background (escape from the USSR) prevents me from seeing these people as HUMAN BEINGS....My hatrad of Marxism and Fascism is viceral and violent. I see only one end to this Traitor.....I'll let you guys to your hopefulness.....me, I see the end of America unless we all get violently opposed to Obama and all that he represents in American politics....I want to spit in his ugly face and..... Please read "liberal Fascism" by J Goldberg....perhaps you'll see just how low our chances are to provail...at least unless we true Americans smarten up fast and demand more from our leaders....more interaction with them (via computer etc). We need to get our kids to KNOW american real history so that identy politics, eurgenics, their betrayal, and Fascismt american style (ist implemented by Wilson and adopted by FDR and truman (a KKK member), Johnson etc) never happens again....the brainwashing has to stop If we are to retain our freedoms. We need to fight the current political establishment....enough with Politcal correctness .....it only leads to fascism......always. That's why I'm so pessimistic....I want to wake people up NOW....the America we know is about to die.

It isn’t just whether or not you win, but HOW you win. In Obama’s case, he will do ANYTHING to win regardless of how

I appreciate what you’re saying and why….”if you don’t have honor you got nothing” etc.

The problem is that we are obviously in an information war….WAR. When in war you gotta fight back.

The other thing thats different than any other time in American history and hence makes it impossible to play by the “european” notion of galantry, honor, decency etc…..OBAMA is a trojoan horse MARXIST Islamicist….we don’t have time to look nice…we only have time to destroy the TRAITOR.

Sorry for the pessimism people….its true that lots of you have worked hard to keep people like me feel somewhat hopeful sometimes…..THANKS.

But unfortunately, my background (escape from the USSR) prevents me from seeing these people as HUMAN BEINGS….My hatrad of Marxism and Fascism is viceral and violent. I see only one end to this Traitor…..I’ll let you guys to your hopefulness…..me, I see the end of America unless we all get violently opposed to Obama and all that he represents in American politics….I want to spit in his ugly face and…..

Please read “liberal Fascism” by J Goldberg….perhaps you’ll see just how low our chances are to provail…at least unless we true Americans smarten up fast and demand more from our leaders….more interaction with them (via computer etc). We need to get our kids to KNOW american real history so that identy politics, eurgenics, their betrayal, and Fascismt american style (ist implemented by Wilson and adopted by FDR and truman (a KKK member), Johnson etc) never happens again….the brainwashing has to stop If we are to retain our freedoms. We need to fight the current political establishment….enough with Politcal correctness …..it only leads to fascism……always. That’s why I’m so pessimistic….I want to wake people up NOW….the America we know is about to die.

]]> By: NoBamaNoWay http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-963247 NoBamaNoWay Mon, 27 Oct 2008 04:41:57 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-963247 heh. heh.

]]> By: AnninCA http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961970 AnninCA Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:38:17 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961970 Well, you earn MY respect. Anyone who can slog through statistics, gets to talk about that subject authoritatively. *haha Well, you earn MY respect. Anyone who can slog through statistics, gets to talk about that subject authoritatively. *haha

]]> By: bemused http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961966 bemused Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:36:17 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961966 I hope so! I had to take many courses in statistics to get the whole story of polls and their interpretation. It easily takes a year or more of time and testing to come up with a really good poll or psychological assessment, which is what a poll is. Consider the reliability of the SAT vs. Zogby. Day to day political polls at best can't come closer to accurate than +/- 3 points. That's why a 6 point spread is not meaningful by itself, and can reverse in 24 hours. I hope so! I had to take many courses in statistics to get the whole story of polls and their interpretation. It easily takes a year or more of time and testing to come up with a really good poll or psychological assessment, which is what a poll is. Consider the reliability of the SAT vs. Zogby. Day to day political polls at best can’t come closer to accurate than +/- 3 points. That’s why a 6 point spread is not meaningful by itself, and can reverse in 24 hours.

]]> By: oowawa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961929 oowawa Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:11:26 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961929 Don't trust anyone under <strike>30</strike> 40. Don’t trust anyone under 30 40.

]]> By: bemused http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961852 bemused Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:53:37 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961852 That picture of him emerging from the Willamette River with the roses and the unicorn in the background. The video where he say that a light will shine and you will be compelled to vote for Barack Obama. If you can find it, the whole picture of the blue page that was on his site, with the eagle turned away and standing on the flag. Now, if you go to barackobama.com, this screen flashes by at an almost subliminal speed before the mainscreen loads. I caught it with PrntScrn but--now it has been chopped a little. The first one I saw long ago was truly upsetting. The eagle was clearly in retreat. Now it looks a little more like a heraldic supporter for other design elements. That picture of him emerging from the Willamette River with the roses and the unicorn in the background.

The video where he say that a light will shine and you will be compelled to vote for Barack Obama.

If you can find it, the whole picture of the blue page that was on his site, with the eagle turned away and standing on the flag. Now, if you go to barackobama.com, this screen flashes by at an almost subliminal speed before the mainscreen loads. I caught it with PrntScrn but–now it has been chopped a little. The first one I saw long ago was truly upsetting. The eagle was clearly in retreat. Now it looks a little more like a heraldic supporter for other design elements.

]]> By: AnninCA http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961843 AnninCA Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:52:13 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961843 My objection to Obama's on-line system is more of a philosophical point, I guess. I was mortified, personally, that this competition for dollars got started in the primary. I didn't think that young people should be digging so deeply into their pockets for a politician, who might...then turn around and not deliver. We all have been through campaigns. We all know the game. Next comes the speech, "Well, the economy is obviously so bad, that I'll have to postpone those tax cuts." The moderators of the debates tried valiantly to bring some honest discussion about this into the campaign. Obama clearly decided....stick to the BS. Now, these young people have spent about what they will pay in taxes next year on electing him? That just seemed wrong. My favorite comments to hate from the Hillary campaign came when she had a good on-line month, and her manager said, "And these were people on fixed-incomes sending her money!" I thought right then, "Shut up, you dope. That's nothing to brag about." I don't like this new "free-for-all" system, may the biggest campaign money raiser win. It over-persuaded the SD's, in my opinion. My objection to Obama’s on-line system is more of a philosophical point, I guess.

I was mortified, personally, that this competition for dollars got started in the primary. I didn’t think that young people should be digging so deeply into their pockets for a politician, who might…then turn around and not deliver.

We all have been through campaigns. We all know the game. Next comes the speech, “Well, the economy is obviously so bad, that I’ll have to postpone those tax cuts.”

The moderators of the debates tried valiantly to bring some honest discussion about this into the campaign. Obama clearly decided….stick to the BS.

Now, these young people have spent about what they will pay in taxes next year on electing him? That just seemed wrong. My favorite comments to hate from the Hillary campaign came when she had a good on-line month, and her manager said, “And these were people on fixed-incomes sending her money!” I thought right then, “Shut up, you dope. That’s nothing to brag about.”

I don’t like this new “free-for-all” system, may the biggest campaign money raiser win.

It over-persuaded the SD’s, in my opinion.

]]> By: Betty http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961811 Betty Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:42:45 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961811 you're a fool you’re a fool

]]> By: tj http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961796 tj Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:39:55 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961796 YUP!! Goverment computer was accessed. It will not be hard to trace who did it. All Gov Comps are signed out to specific individuals with a serial number and you have to have an ID code to access them. They track the usage of them all the time. This person was an idiot or they think they are untouchable. YUP!! Goverment computer was accessed. It will not be hard to trace who did it. All Gov Comps are signed out to specific individuals with a serial number and you have to have an ID code to access them. They track the usage of them all the time.
This person was an idiot or they think they are untouchable.

]]> By: AnninCA http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961755 AnninCA Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:29:07 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961755 Well, they sent 30 lawyers to dig up dirt on Sarah. LOL* All they managed to dig up was trash, in my opinion. Rove gave her a nice pat for doing a good job for McCain today, btw. I agreed wholeheartedly with him. The smears on Palin were directly tied to Obama. I don't know if this nonsense is. I do know that the overall picture of attacking and smearing a guy who dares to ask a hypothetical question was a low point in the Obama campaign. And he definitely participated. He was derisive on the campaign trail. And I fail to see how in the world he thought that would win over blue-collar voters. Just baffled me, anyway..... There were so many other legitimate ways to counter the situation than that. I think that was a HUGE gaffe on his part, bigger than Bidens. Well, they sent 30 lawyers to dig up dirt on Sarah. LOL* All they managed to dig up was trash, in my opinion.

Rove gave her a nice pat for doing a good job for McCain today, btw. I agreed wholeheartedly with him.

The smears on Palin were directly tied to Obama. I don’t know if this nonsense is.

I do know that the overall picture of attacking and smearing a guy who dares to ask a hypothetical question was a low point in the Obama campaign. And he definitely participated. He was derisive on the campaign trail.

And I fail to see how in the world he thought that would win over blue-collar voters.

Just baffled me, anyway…..

There were so many other legitimate ways to counter the situation than that.

I think that was a HUGE gaffe on his part, bigger than Bidens.

]]> By: bemused http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961754 bemused Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:28:46 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961754 Now Andrew, when times are tough the thing that helps the most is humor, and you are right, O's name lends itself more to wordplay than any I've seen, so turn to making him a joke if you feel stressed. Humor, black though it was by necessity, was one of the key things that got people through the concentration camps. There could hardly be a greater test of will to live, or morale, than what the people in Nazi camps went through. Focus on getting through, not what you're going through. Now Andrew, when times are tough the thing that helps the most is humor, and you are right, O’s name lends itself more to wordplay than any I’ve seen, so turn to making him a joke if you feel stressed. Humor, black though it was by necessity, was one of the key things that got people through the concentration camps. There could hardly be a greater test of will to live, or morale, than what the people in Nazi camps went through. Focus on getting through, not what you’re going through.

]]> By: bemused http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961751 bemused Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:22:48 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961751 After thinking of that, think of how to resist and subvert. Another topsy-turvy scenario, all us older people who upheld the rules because of the principles they represented, now being the ones to rage against the machine. After thinking of that, think of how to resist and subvert. Another topsy-turvy scenario, all us older people who upheld the rules because of the principles they represented, now being the ones to rage against the machine.

]]> By: AnninCA http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961748 AnninCA Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:20:28 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/25/%e2%80%9cjoe-the-plumber%e2%80%9d-smears-originated-from-ohio-state-officials/#comment-961748 I value politicians who keep their word. To me, that's more important than anything else. I value politicians who keep their word. To me, that’s more important than anything else.

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