if it’s not hate, what is it?
By American Girl in Italy on October 28, 2008 at 3:30 PM in Abuse, Current Affairs, Geraldine Ferraro, Hate Speech, Hillary Clinton, Human Rights, Women
I read this article, Sarah Palin’s a Brainiac, and I wanted to share it, because I really liked it. Trying to do a write up about it, I kind of veered somewhere I didn’t intend to go. Once I start writing, I never know where I wll end up….
The writer, Elaine Lafferty, was discussing this video of Palin, as well as how smart she found Sarah Palin to be. Something that anyone who took the time to actually do, would realize. Things that Sarah said in this video kind of dictated where this post went.
That said, I can’t tell you how many times I heard and read during the primary that people were, “not opposed to a woman President, just not THAT one.”
I can’t tell you how many disparaging, sexist, misogynistic, hateful, violent, horrific, insulting attacks I heard and read about Hillary Clinton, during the primary.
Every day four women die in this country as a result of domestic violence, the euphemism for murders and assaults by husbands and boyfriends. That’s approximately 1,400 women a year, according to the FBI. The number of women who have been murdered by their intimate partners is greater than the number of soldiers killed in the Vietnam War.
There were threats of violence towards her, and a belittling of her accomplishments, and insulting comments on her looks. And these were just the ones from the media!
Some of the attacks I heard:
She only got to where she is because of her husband.
She is too old, too ugly.
She cried. She’s a whiner.
She didn’t shed enough tears. She’s cold hearted.
She was racist.
She didn’t have any experience, she just hosted tea parties.
She was a liar.
The attacks went on and on.
So, now what? Now we have a female candidate, who, for all intense and purposes, is the complete opposite of Hillary Clinton. And we find ourselves right back where we were during the primary.
Sarah Palin is the victim of disparaging, sexist, misogynistic, hateful, violent, horrific, insulting attacks. There are threats of violence towards her, a belittling of her accomplishments, and insulting attacks on her looks.
Although only 572,000 reports of assault by intimates are officially reported to federal officials each year, the most conservative estimates indicate two to four million women of all races and classes are battered each year. At least 170,000 of those violent incidents are serious enough to require hospitalization, emergency room care or a doctor’s attention.
But, she did not get where she is on the back of her husband. She is self made. She worked hard, and got where she is on her own. (As did Hillary, in my opinion.)
She is not old, and she is not ugly. (and neither is Hillary)
She has shown an emotional side, and she is tough as nails (with polish) (as has Hillary)
She is a working mother, with a large family, and a loving husband. (well…Hillary and Bill are loving partners with issues, and they have raised an outstanding daughter)
They differ on party, issues, age, accomplishments, successes, family life, personality and looks. They both have major accomplishments, and they are both intelligent. I don’t think either of these women would be where they are now, if they were not smart as whips.
They have different styles, and they have had different paths. They have had different educations, and different life experiences.
But the thing that these two have in common, above anything, is that they are both women. Women who have chosen to serve the people. Women who have dedicate their lives, to serving others.
They are both women, who have been the victims of disparaging, sexist, misogynistic, hateful, violent, horrific, insulting, personal, personal, personal attacks. Attacks coming from both men and women.
Every year approximately 132,000 women report that they have been victims of rape or attempted rape, and more than half of them knew their attackers. It’s estimated that two to six times that many women are raped, but do not report it. Every year 1.2 million women are forcibly raped by their current or former male partners, some more than once.
Why? We can disagree on policy, but this is not what these attacks are about.
What links these two women is that they are both smart, successful women, who have managed to maintain a family and career, and have chosen to serve the public, through political office. Long story short – they are women.
So, when Hillary haters claimed, *it is not that they are opposed to a woman, not just THAT woman*, they were really saying – *I am opposed to a woman*.
So, I ask, if not now, when? If not Geraldine, or Hillary, or Sarah, then who?
As I see it, if we don’t put a stop to these attacks, if women don’t stop attacking each other, and until women are treated with respect and equality, we will never get passed this. Women will never *overcome* if they are treated this way, and if they attack this way.
Violent juvenile offenders are four times more likely to have grown up in homes where they saw violence. Children who have witnessed violence at home are also five times more likely to commit or suffer violence when they become adults.
And the attacks are not just aimed at Clinton or Palin. They are aimed at women who support them. The ugly attacks that are left on blogs are beyond the pale. Absolutely disgusting.
I am not a psychiatrist, or socialigist, or expert in any way, but I do see a direct correlation in the way women are treated publically, to how they are treated behind closed doors. And, until something changes, we will keep digging those graves. Four women a day.
“Los Angeles County sheriff’s officials said the mannequin sporting a beehive hairdo, glasses and a red coat does not rise to the level of a hate crime. If the same display had been made of a Barack Obama-like doll, for example, authorities would have to evaluate it independently, Whitmore said. “That adds a whole other social, historical hate aspect to the display, and that is embedded in the consciousness of the country.”
“Morisette acknowledged to FOX 11 news that had he depicted Barack Obama in the same scene, it would not have gone over as well, because the history of a hanged black man in America is a lot more intense than a hanged white woman.”
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McCain Camp demands LA TImes release the Obama, Khalidi video.
Here’s FOX covering it too:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/28/la-times-refuses-release-tape-obama-praising-controversial-activist/
Really? The McCain campaign demanded that the LAT release the Khalidi video? cite please.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/McCain_camp_demands_LA_Times_video.html?showall
Thanks for providing the link Doc99.
Believe that this is a vital key in the remaining days before the election.
This tape will speak volumes as it can show Obama in action.There will be no denying it or downplaying it as it is visually documented.
The LA TIMES need to feel the pressure from all over.Releasing it, is the only right thing to do.
Great post. Thank you. I must comment on this quote by Morisette:
“Morisette acknowledged to FOX 11 news that had he depicted Barack Obama in the same scene, it would not have gone over as well, because the history of a hanged black man in America is a lot more intense than a hanged white woman.”
Clearly, Morisette has a selective view of American history. Ever hear of the *Salem Witch Trials,* Mr. Morisette? You and your partner are hateful, pure and simple. I lived in West Hollywood for 14 years and in one move you have completely obliterated my favorable views of that community.
West Hollywood is exclusively gay, innit?
no.
Not exactly, but pretty much. There is a large Russian American community there, but the demographic is primarily gay/lesbian.
Most ironic is the fact that Palin’s first act as Governor was to protect the rights of gay partners while Obama is a homophone — campaigning down south with the likes of Donnie McClunkin — “ex-gay man reformed through prayer.” He also would not allow himself to be phontgraphed with Gavin Newsome, the gay-friendly mayer of S.F. and Obama is now backtracking on repealing don’t ask don’t tell.
Does anyone even check out these candidates before voting?
How terrible of anyone in West Hollywood to do this and think it is remotely amusing.
I wonder if an effigy of an openly gay man was hung up there with a noose around his neck — would they find that funny?
Oded Fehr: Stop Violence Against Women
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdYhmcVgaYI
Amnesty International: Stop Violence Against Women
Every minute of every day all over the world, women are harassed, attacked and even killed just for being women, daughters, Sisters, mothers, children. It doesn’t have to be this way. Amnesty International is working to stop it. Making a difference is easier than you think. The first step is making your voice heard, make some noise to stop violence against women. Take action at Amnesty Internationals’ website:
http://www.amnesty.org/
I just can’t belive that someone thinks that was ok. If they think it was wrong done to blacks, why is it not wrong to do this to ANYONE?? This tells me their cause is not really about anything except winning.
Their cause is about getting a puppet in office and having total power.
Their cause is that Palin came out and said she was against Gay Marriage. It has nothing to do with puppets, however it is spun. The men who presented their Halloween display said it was all in the spirit of the holiday. Obama has also said he’s against Gay Marriage. There is a ballot iniative in California to overrule the court’s interpretation of the CA Constitution that has allowed Gay Marriage in the state.
Where’s Al Sharpton? Where are the Dems denouncing this BS? That’s right, hate towards women is nothing new.
Why doesn’t the great one denounce this? He said he is going to bring the country together…
First of all, what does Obama have to do with this nut in West Hollywood who committed this atrocious act??? Please tell me. And, American Girl, your posting on this blog as well as others continually hammer at the sexist remarks made to Hillary by Obama and the MSM. Please, give some of these? same old same old attacks….would you like to see some of the attacks that YOU and others like you have made on Obama?
empty suit
liar
racist
communist
traitor
anti-American
untrustworthy
ugly with big ears
mother was a whore
father a drunk
wife is an angry black woman
hypocrite
affirmative action baby
lazy
hateful
shameless
throws everyone under the bus
the above is just a start – couple that with all the smears on his associations, whether recent or 25 years ago and for whatever tenuous tie, and I would say Obama has received the worst of the insults throughout the campaign.
Sexism and racism exist – and not just in this country. Hillary and Obama are NOT guilty of either in my opinion and its really shameful to see the attacks from all sides against these two intelligent people.
So don’t vote for Obama…who cares? buy why the continual hammering on these things that have been soooo over for months now.
For someone who lives abroad (I assume you live in Italy), it puzzles me how you can be so narrow-minded.
And the only thing not true is lazy, because obama definately is not other than that I think she was pretty accurate, and don’t call me racist you dolt cause i’m black. I guess it would puzzle you, but what she is doing is judging obama by the content of his character. MLK never said I have dream that no black person no matter how shameless, is lauded as something he’s not. The biggest difference between what is said on this board and what obama does is that he lies and he degrades people on a forum where anyone can and will hear it. And for you to say that obama has been attacked more than any other candidate. I beg to differ. Sarah Palin especially has been treated I would say twice as horribly as hillary cliton. As for barack, I have never seen a man have lips planted so firmly to his buttocks. So please don’t come on here whining about how your mental midget has been treated horribly it cause just doesn’t jive, for what any idiot not sopped up on Koolaid could see. Take that bull and the maxed out race card back to the Koolaid gang central and sit on it. Obama has earned his ire and then some. I could find some less pleasent more accurate degrading words than she did to describe him and you worlds like theif, bigoted, trifling, jackass, arrogent SOB. So go back to obamatown and wait for him to heal your soul or pass out the cynide laced koolaid when he looses.
and they wonder why some women aren’t really happy with the whole obama movement. the way that guy blew off the seriousness of sarah palin’s faux lynching is so typical. you can call woman bitches, hos, cunts, etc; hang them in effigy, make a game out of blowing their heads off, and it’s all good. if any of those things was done to a non-white person, every obamabot in the country would have been rioting in the streets.
As your article illustrates so well, the history and current realities of violence against women are too easily overlooked and dismissed. I’m sickened.
Which is what we’re saying about Obama so on that count we’re all even. Surely we all understand that?
Of course we didn’t attack Obama with cruelty. Not as we see it. He might have found it cruel. If he feels a proper vetting is cruel. But in that regard the man with no history and no credentials can feel whatever he likes. Because it changes nothing.
I don’t think anyone has said *just not THAT one* when talking about Obama. To the contrary: I have seen clearly stated commentary from contributors about Obama’s troubling relationships and lack of accomplishment in Chicago and the Senate as reasons for non-support.
I’m confused by your comment.
Apparently, we don’t all *understand that?*
Right now I would trade “The One” for Al Sharpton hands down… for what that’s worth.
No, the Secret Service would have already had him in for questioning were the display reversed.
NAACP protested last year when someone else had a Halloween noose display
http://www.lagrangenews.com/articles/2007/10/13/news/news01.txt
The message is — it’s fine if victim is female — but the image better not be black or Jewish — because women are getting what is due to them, whereas racism is not tolerated.
Women’s status in America isn’t that much better than in Islamic Countries or in India or Africa. Just a about any anti-female symbolism is allowed in America. Hillary Nut Cracker — for example, and the symbolic hanging of Sarah Palin.
Thankfully I do not blame all men for this behavior — and as many astute men mention — women are part of the hatred toward other women. WHY? Perhaps women feel they need to victimize other women to keep or get the favor of their man?
During the dark ages women were killed by the millions — their crime? Supposedly they were witches — this is a part of history that should never be forgotten — because it could happen again. Obama has unchained the evil residing in the masses and he has directed that evil toward women.
you mean the image better not be black or muslim – obamanazis are quite okay with anti-semitism. it’s anti-muslim attacks that are not allowed, even if they are simply logical, factual arguments against some or their mistreatment of any number of groups and lack of respect for democracy and freedom of religion.
In a 1995 interview, Barack Obama lavished praise on Reverend Jeremiah “God Damn America” Wright, calling him a “wonderful man” and “the best of what the black church has to offer.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh7xMhsLnac
Send all this stuff to the McCain campaign. They can get ads out in a hurry or send it to 527s. They will do it!
I emailed the link to the McCain headquarters in PA, but I doubt they’ll even bring up the Wright issue at this point.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe the McCain camp is sending this to us???
I mean, we are finally seeing a garbage dump on the “blessed one”. Is all this stuff being leaked by McCain.
I HOPE SO. My campaign contributions at work!!
So where are all the human rights activists now? Or are human rights issues and hate speech like “racism” in that they are one-way streets?
Apparently hanging women is okay, but not white men, monsters, or space aliens.
The “woman hate” element makes me think of Islamic fundamentalism. I wonder how this guy feels about public amputations or stoning?
Bingo! Thank-you for the excellent observation. Why is it that when we are pushed to be more “tolerant” and “accepting” women get the shitty end of the stick?
it’s called mindless, leftist orthodoxy, and plain old misogyny.
Good point. It’s the apathy of the rest of society that bothers me.
the people posting comments at Politico seem to think that McCain’s campaign is desperate. it doesn’t feel that way to me. In fact, I think to the contrary. Obummer’s group seem frightened.
Agreed. They do seem frightened.
The majority of the fear is coming from inevitability trolls / Oborgbots posing as Mac supporters and PUMAs. Fark em.
There’s a bunch of trolls on the hillbuzz story regarding PA going for McCain. I don’t recall seeing them at that site before.
It’s been relatively troll quiet lately. I think the tightening polls and the Redistribution of Wealth audio has got them working overtime.
I missed the Corbett interview (PA talk jock) of Palin but caught a bit after. He said the emails are flooding in and Der Precious supporters are worried Palin is going to win.
PA is going to Mac, like it did for Hill.
I particularly liked this quote from over at hillbuzz.
This makes sense. Massachusetts could go to Mac! That would be gravy!
Here’s the Barney Frank ad running in New England. Does this guy have balls, or what??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_w18ywSLKY
Wow. Frank having to run an ad is way bad news for my former party.
Wow, Help Barney finish what he started? WTF. They must really think people are stupid.
I live in Massachetts. The more liberal areas. Last election cycle kerry signs were EVERYwhere. this year not so much. Also Nader is running here too. I think a lot of Dems are going to vote for him. I mean what the heck Obama’s gonna win it anyways….. right? Massachetts is blue …. right? My vote for Nader aint gonna hurt a democrat….right?
Please think that way. All vote for Nader and I’ll vote for McCain
Don’t forget that Massachusetts has had a fairly bizarre recent history. Despite being a reliable Democratic state in Presidential elections since 1960 (although there were a couple of notable exceptions–in 1980 and 1984, Massachusetts went for Reagan), until Deval Patrick was elected as Governor in 2006, the previous 16 years had Republicans attaining the Governor’s post (William Weld, Paul Celucci and Mitt Romney; Jane Swift was only Acting Governor–she was never elected any higher than Lt Governor). In fact, from 1900 through the present, Massachusetts has had 30 different people elected governor, 17 of whom were Republicans and 13 were Democrats (two governors–one from each party, GOP John Volpe in the 1960s, and Dem Michael Dukakis in the 1970s/1980s–would serve non-consecutive terms of office). The GOP has held Massachusetts’ governorship for 65 years out of the past 108.
I spoke with a co-worker today, a die hard Democrat who lives in the city where the JFK Library is located, and whose family includes workers on the Hill (Beacon). He said everyone in his circle is voting McCain.
Whoa..Mass. Liberals do not like crooks, liars and thieves…Just as I predicted before the DNC Convention. If they stole this from Hillary, Mass. will go red!
It’s getting down and serious now. Are you ready to Parrr-tey?
Thanks for the Palin Video. That was raving good. Sarah representing women in the whitehouse is a welcomed and novel plan. YES SHE CAN!
President McCain & Vice President Sarah Palin.
It has a nice ring to it.
Oh and First lady Cindy McCain…sounds very sweet. The Mavericks will have another Fiscal brainiac in Cindy who will be guiding them on.
Hillary won Mass. by 8-10%. This AFTER the passing the torch (barf) from the Kennedy’s and Kerry hoopla.
Barney Frank can’t extracate himself from the bail-out and ACORN.
Ah. I love the epiphany of my fellow citizens. I equally love the revenge factor too. I’m betting my fellow citizens do too.
Those inevitability/downer trolls are the worst. At least you can spot the snipers a mile away.
Hey ferd where have you been? We miss your troll emasculation services!
Galt:
It is good to be back. My wife and I were sharing a computer for a several days until I put in a new power supply for her computer. I had to order it and of course, it took a month of Sundays for it to get here.
Hell, if a candidate would simply promise better service all around–he/she would get my vote. LOL.
Welcome back!
Now go get them trolls!
I’ll be on them like stupid on shovel.
They don’t think that at all – they’re paid to flood the online boards with the “it’s over” theme – “McCain’s desperate and pathetic” in order to demoralize the opposition and suppress McCain turnout.
Reposting this comment that was placed here last night (allegedly) from an 0bama campaign operative – for what it’s worth..
Originally posted at Hillbuzz:
This poster sarah has the DNA of a Obamabot and the integrity of a weasel. She defines the macro world of the Obama campaign to a tee and therefore may have 10% chance of being truthful.
A good 45% of Americans’ don’t have the time or access to political sites with the truth instead of MSM propaganda, but I trust in most of this group to have the gut feeling about Obama and Michele. They will make up their minds when they vote and it will inevitably go to McCain/Palin, the safer of the two tickets.
Yes, they are very frightened! Senator Government can’t close the deal. Any other Democrat would be blowing McCain away right now. They are very very scared. And they should be! McCain’s numbers keep going up. They don’t have an answer for it. The koolaid has made them irrational!
When Mac wins what about the alleged million showing up to Der Precious’ “celebration?”
Der Precious’ Field of Dreams “Build it and they will come” theme is so pathetic and transparent.
They can just burn down his little set. What is it this time? He already did his greek columns. Oh, this time I’m sure it’s made of glod with a huge golden throne.
oops-gold, glod!
That would be the real “Bonfire of the Vanities.”
Lets’ be ready to swarm it and trash it when he loses..
Gallup…..down to 2 points. *heh*
THe people commenting at Politico are paid Obots logged in from Obama’s cyber war room.
Reading some of the comments on the original story that was linked, it’s obvious where the lack of intelligence truly lies. Not only lack of intelligence, but lack of maturity as well.
In typical Obot fashion they swamp the comments with negative and disparaging remarks. The very basis of the story was that those calling Gov Palin ’stupid’ have not met her and have no real understanding of her intelligence. The writer is offering this from an inside experience. Still the commentors call her stupid, without the slightest thought to how stupid they sound.
The selective idignation of the miscreants supporting Oblockhead is appalling. The sexism coming from the campaign itself is enough for me to have cast my vote yesterday for McCain/Palin.
Sexism is the the most base form of bigotry. For any obamalobotobot who disagrees with this statement, imagine yourself being a woman and then black or a woman and Native American. Everything else pales in comparison. This is one reason why I cannot fathom how any woman of any color can support this candidate. As the father of a young woman who is now 20, I could never, ever vote for a bigot, much less a bigot towards women.
His supporters can have that plastic Messiah and when he completes his division of this country and its ensuing havoc, I hope they are in the midst of it, desperately looking for a way out. They have created this monster and they should “enjoy” its full effects.
Aren’t women still considered minorities? Thus why is this not considered a hate crime?
B I N G O ! ! ! ! !
anybody know where the National Organization for Women is these days???
i sure would like to know….
pathetic….
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
great post and thank you for the youtube of Sarah…never get tired of hearing her speak.
I am so glad that we have someone like Sarah Palin on our side. I have no idea what causes a man to mistreat a woman. I do know that if you don’t stand up for yourself, you will be used as a doormat. I think too many women tie their worth to having a man. Society perpetuates this to an extent.
This is the last straw . . . spread this story far and wide . . . .McCain/Palin MUST PREVAIL. Our country and just plain decency requires it.
OUR COUNRTY MUST BE SAVED!
McCain/Palin 2008
obama and biden are a despicable disgrace; they must be crushed . . .
McCain/Palin
America and Americans First and Always!
Politico justifies their bias for Obama. Most revealing argument: his campaign is so much like W!”
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/so-sue-us-were-biased-but-obama-is-sooo-like-w/
What if they just had an emapty noose hanging? I’ll bet then they would get a talking to. I am sure then it would all be about the intentions of the empty noose. “what are you trying to say?” Those two guys would then be labled racist, etc.
But, hanging a white woman. Yep. That’s okay because it’s Halloween!
Draw the line. Take a stand and fight for what YOU know is right! It doesn’t matter if it’s Hillary or Sarah. All that means is all woman are fair game.
Take a stand. Do it for your mother. Do it for your daughter, neice, aunt, cousin, sister. Do it for YOU.
Empty nooses got a demonstration, too. From the article I linked above:
Great piece! I’ve also said time and again that the level of gender hate during this campaign has been stunning. I expected some to be honest, but never did I expect the level and brazenness of the woman-hate. TV pundits, elected officials and others thought it a good idea to pile on Hillary, notwithstanding her position on any issue at all.
The Right started the anti-Hillary stuff, but it took the Left to complete the circle jerk.
And the idea that these people only opposed Hillary because of who she was was given the lie when Palin appeared. The same crap, different target.
And Mr. Post-Racial, good feeling, bring us together uber messiah never even protested. When you run as a messiah, one would think you should at least refrain from misogyny.
I’ve been a Dem my whole voting life. No more. They’ve strung me along for too long.
Then who? It is great question that American Girl asks. They tore down Hillary and they are tearing down Sarah.
Both smart and accomplished women who have, to be sure, different views. If not either one them whom? I guess she would have to be the female version of Obama. That is to say, an empty pant suit…
I am lucky to have many strong and smart women in my life. The one most dear to me is my 15 year old daughter. I don’t know what her future holds but it pisses me off to no end that she may someday be the target of attacks because of her gender.
She may never be Senator or a Governor but what they have done to Hillary and Sarah brings down ALL women. Perhaps my daughter one day. They want to see Obama win at all costs, even if it means setting back any future woman candidate.
It is dishonorable and disgusting what they are doing. Even more sickening is that many of the attack are coming from other women. When they attack Hillary and Sarah, they by extension, are attacking the women I love and making it harder for all women. If not them who, if not now when?
I don’t think of myself normally as a hate-filled person. It amazes me that this campaign has stirred up so much hatred and devisiveness among friends, families, co-workers and strangers. And I don’t even want to think about what it’s done to race relations.
I feel myself building up this knot of resentment with this Palin hanging effigy thing, on top of everything they did to Hillary and all the other things they’ve done and said about Palin. Any normal election will have its disagreements, but this is unprecedented in my lifetime.
You don’t see this type of thing coming from the McCain campaign at all. They may think that talking about Bill Ayers and Wright is negative, but who made it negative? They did, and it’s the truth. Hanging Palin in effigy is hate, pure and simple, and every woman AND man should be offended and it should be removed NOW. The fact that no one in the O campaign speaks out about this, the “C” shirts, etc, tells me all I want to know.
I liken this election to the Second Revolutionary War and we MUST WIN to save our country!
Great Britain (Obama) with its larger and better trained army and navy (i.e., endless campaign funds and groups like acorn) launched a huge land and sea effort to crush the revolution. However, they had to transport and supply its army across the Atlantic Ocean (from the East coast to the West coast of the U.S.). As the war continued, the British won many battles but gained little from their victories. The American patriots (i.e., McPalin’s Army of supporters) always formed new forces and continued the fight to final victory in November 2008.
McCain/Palin 2008!
so glad the site is back up.didn’t get my daily n.q.fix.yesterday..
could,’t sleep at all last night
puma
What has to happen for violence against women to be elevated to the level of HATE CRIME? It’s centuries too long in coming – kell surpreeze!
After what’s been done to her, Sarah definitely knows what we’re dealing with here. I think we need to motivate her to get it going – not that a democrat congress will be any help – we know how much respect they have for women – NOT.
Can President McCain do some kind of executive order making HATE CRIMES against women equal to HATE CRIMES against minorities? Or does it have to be congress?
Anybody know?
most (some?) hate crimes legislation already contains the is language, i.e., “crimes based on gender (male or female);” it seems to me this may just be bias and dereliction of duty by the person in charge there. surprise.
$250K has been donated to the Obama campaign by the Justice Department….No wonder those people aren’t doing there JOB.
Obama Affinity to Marxists Dates Back to College Days
Obama in His Own Words:
“To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully,” the Democratic presidential candidate wrote in his memoir, “Dreams From My Father.” “The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists.”
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/10/28/obama-affinity-to-marxists-dates-back-to-college-days/
What the hell is a “structural feminist”?
Good question!!
It’s a form of feminist thought that looks to the structure of society to explain ongoing gender hierarchies, and recognizes patriarchal privilege, occupational segregation, and womanhating as factors in the continuing disadvantaged status of women. The term does not fit easily with the other marxian terms BO has thrown around in this passage, and does not ring true. Also, his text mentions the word ‘woman’ only 4 times, and his brief discussions of women or feminists all lack context or hook into the dynamic of his larger points. Very ahistorical, decontextualized, and depersonalized — therefore not ‘real’ marxian analysis and definitely paying lip service to feminism for the political payoff.
Perfectly consistent with the womanhating he has supported and participated in all during his campaigns.
I sure hope he loses big time!!!
PUMA!!
yes, Obama hates women… especially his mother and grandmother…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FUq223TGEc
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
They need to stop using that term as it implies something that it is not.
Structural woman sounds better.
It’s Oblockhead’s code for “built like a female”, I would hazard a guess. He’s a sexist pig.
This thought gives me hope….
There are hundreds of of who regularly post here.
For every one poster, there must be a hundred readers
For every one reader, there must be a thousand like minded individuals.
In customer service there is an old adage- imagine every complaint phone call or letter received equals a 1000 unhappy customers. From the traffic on anti-Obama blogs, Barky has a lot of unhappy customers who will voice for the first time their opinion on election day.
It’s open season on women. I’m just stunned.
On a previous article here, someone posted this link to Michelle’s thesis:
http://www.michelleobamathesis.com
I remember a few months ago, I’d found her thesis online somewhere (before I found NQ!). After reading several pages, I was getting really disgusted and clicked off the link without saving it.
I wonder if what’s on this link is it?
I think from comments upstairs that this is her thesis. I read it a while ago on a different site. It’s badly written and the theme is basically: it’s a travesty when black Americans develop “upper class white values” (such as she might by attending Princeton) and they should, instead, concentrate their efforts on “helping their own.” In other words, racially-based social activism. Real melting-pot Americanism, huh? This is one of the reasons I took against the Obamas early on: instead of the spirit of the racially-mixed civil rights movement, they (Michelle with her thesis; BO with Wright) buy into this race-based view of society and culture, where nobody who’s not black can understand or care about the black experience and all whites are bigots just by virtue of being white (a view propounded by many university orientation programs, by the way). I hated this when it found its way into American academia and it’s even more despicable in the political arena.
It is illegal in CT to even display a noose. They had been appearing at random locations throughout CT. Gov. Rell enacted a law forbidding the display of nooses. He would be in trouble in this state.
And the bashing of Gov. Palin is appalling.
It is illegal in CT to even display a noose. They had been appearing at random locations throughout CT. Gov. Rell enacted a law forbidding the display of nooses,as the historical connotation is one of hate. He (the artist)would be in trouble in this state.
(And the bashing of Gov. Palin is appalling and disgusting.)
I live in SE CT. Nice to meet you. I love Gov. Rell!
I’m in SE CT, too. There are a lot of quiet Mac supporters here. And they’re all Dems. Can’t wait to see how this shakes out on Nov. 4.
American Girl, you nailed it for me. This is exactly the way I feel about how HRC was treated and now Sarah Palin. And the woman on woman bashing is truly disturbing. What is it envy? How dare these women be successful and tough and tireless!
And is this the message we really want to send to our daughters: give it up, Babe. No matter how hard you try, no matter how hard you work or how much better you are than your opponent, you’ll be elbowed out because you’re . . . just a former First Lady, just a Governor, just a mother and wife.
Just a woman.
I was horrified when Hillary Clinton suspended her primary campaign and Gloria Steinam appeared on the Today show [very next morning] and casually said she never believed Hillary would win the nomination in the first place. Why? Because she was a woman.
No mention of how appallingly rigged the whole thing was, how the DNC annointed Obama as “their guy.” No mention of how Hillary Clinton won the popular vote or had been a long and loyal Democratic servant.
Oh no. Steinam flicks Hillary off like yesterday’s leftovers. Time to go with the “winner.” That’s not loyalty. It’s petty and dishonorable, particularly for an elder stateswoman of the woman’s movement.
Madeline Albright once said there’s a special kind of Hell for woman who refuse to support other women.
I’m not a big believer in Hell. But this time? I really hope Albright’s right.
peggy sue…
gloria steinem lost my respect a long time ago. her brand of partisan “feminism” is the worst of fakery, and too many leftist women are buying what she sells..
she didn’t waste one minute in her rush to slam Gov Palin, and side with the worst misogynist campaign in memory.
yeah…if that is feminism, i’m the pope.
gladdened my heart to see some of the big wheel radical feminist leaders standing with Palin last week at a rally.
now that is Feminism, with a capital F!
ITA about Steinem. It annoys me that she thinks she speaks for all women. It appalls me that she labels women that aren’t pro-choice traitors or more specifically “only a woman biologically.” Pfft.
This year has taught me so much about the intolerance, sexism and stunning hypocrisy of the left. I used to think the far right were the true “bad” guys. Now I know that crap exists on both sides.
I guess I’ve been running around with blinders on, Silver Fox. This election has opened my eyes in so many ways. This is just one arena. The idea that a woman, an elder stateswoman of the original movement could so cavalier, so totally phony . . . astounded me. I guess I never got the email that only “certain” women qualify for feminine support and congrats. And that if you don’t follow the strict party line, then liberal women will turn on you like barracuda.
I wrote on another thread that in my mind, Sarah Palin is the poster child for what feminists fought for at the start: a successful professional woman, a wife and mother, a woman who could say: I can do it all, maybe not perfectly all the time, but I can juggle like hell and rely on temporary respites from the people around me. Plain’s husband, Todd, is obviously a huge helpmate. She’s a lucky woman.
I’m the first person to admit that Palin is “not” Hillary Clinton. Nor would I expect her to be. But what happened to women saying, Sister, I do not agree with your political stance, but I have your back because you are where we always hoped women could go.
I, too, was somewhat gladdened when local NOW Chapter heads came to Palin’s support. But there should be more.
If not, that glass ceiling won’t ever be broken and the “frat boy” mentality will continue to rule the day.
And women can look in the mirror and see the reason for that failure.
in 1995 interview, Obama is shown on tape saying: “Rev. Wright is The Best of what the Black Church has to offer”. Of course, the video talks about RACE – ALWAYS about race…click on the link to hear/see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh7xMhsLnac
“The best of what the Black Church has to offer” – Rev. Wright, 1995 Obama
Time for all of us to email the above video to the following newspeople: (the more people email these stories, the more likely that the newscasters will pick up on this – since they receive SO many emails per day)
friends@foxnews.com (megyn Kelly)
cavuto@foxnews.com
oreilly@foxnews.com
hannity@foxnews.com
ontherecord@foxnews.com (Greta)
americas-talking@foxnews.com
http://www.loudobbs.com
brit Hume (Foxnews.com) – online form
“In times of economic scarcity, politicians in this country look for a scapegoat. They want to organize race rather than principles…”
–Barack Obama
Huh? WTF?
Yep! In Obama’s eyes – ‘race’ has always been THE problem in the USA (see what his great ‘mentor’ teacher/preacher taught him???). Obama STILL believes that way, but of course, after the Wright fiasco was made PUBLIC, Obama ‘had’ to ‘disavow’ Wright. Yeah, he ‘publically’ ‘disavowed’ him but PRIVATELY, in his HEART – Obama STILL holds contempt for Whites and STILL holds Wright in great esteem – that’s MY opinion.
Quote is, “They want to organize around race…”
The quote is SOMETHING like this (I keep replaying the video and kept typing at the same time; some words might be left out, like ‘today’, but it’s pretty close): “In times of economic scarcity, generally, the politicians in this country want to look for scapegoats, want to organize around race as apposed to around principles and around values, and I think that’s a mistake but I think that can be encountered by grass roots mobilization, work at a local level…”
Do you think politicians in this country want to organize around race? I found that an odd statement.
Just realized it was your post responding to the quote above. Sorry.
AnnieO, I think the quote “wants to organize around race” IS odd. I wonder why and where Obama got THAT idea?
Ooops, I just noticed I omitted the word “around.” Thanks for the correction.
I don’t think the meaning was lost, and
the “Huh” and “WTF” still applies.
Heaven forbid they should organize around the good of the country.
Thanks for posting the video… it was quite wonderful to hear Sarah Palin.. and it would be terrific if that were shown on tv the night Mr. Obama gives his pre-written speech ad infinitum on his paid tv.
You can’t believe anything Obama says… why he even copied her ASL I love you shout out to the deaf and hard of hearing. That is what he is good at -copying others. Don’t forget his talking points taken directly from Hillary Clinton’s official site – except he got them mixed up…and so he was found out.
Mr. Obama’s credibility
gap:
Tax deductions today will change
tomorrow. His campaign turns
on a dime, depending on who is listening.
Keeping track.
McCain/Palin – 2008
Hillary Clinton – 2012
My extended family and I are going to a Sarah Palin rally in Jeffersonville, Indiana tomorrow!!! We are SO excited! She’s supposed to have Hank Williams, Jr. with her (I don’t like country music very much and I esp. don’t like him but THAT is not why I’m going..I’m going to see SARAH. YEA!!!) I hope she draws a big crowd. Jeff(ersonville) is just across the bridge from Louisville, KY – so, hopefully, many WILL show up!
Fox is about to talk about the LA Times tape
SARAH:
GO FOR THE GIZZARD
THE OBAMA CAMP IS CLEARLY ANTI-WOMAN
THEY ARE ENCOURAGING MISOGYNY AND THEY PRACTICE UNEQUAL PAY!!
GO FOR THE JUGULAR ON THIS !!
The violent hatred people have shown for both Sarah and Hillary this election year has been startling to me. NONE of the male candidates have inspired as much hostility as the two women. I’d say it’s on par with Bush Derangement Syndrome or Bill Clinton Derangement Syndrome.
But here’s the thing with Bush: He had to win a close, contested election; start a pre-emptive war (with dubious intelligence data); egregiously abuse presidential powers; and mess up the fed’s response to Katrina to earn that level of hatred. I still think the left is over the top in their Bush hate, but at least they can actually point to a few thngs he’s done to EARN that vitriol.
My question is: What have Hillary and Sarah done to earn comparable levels of vitriol?
I can’t think of a thing.
Is it because they’re both unapoletically outspoken assertive women that speak the truth about Dear Leader O?
Would they inspire such violent anger if they were opposing anyone else?
It’s what you said. Derangement.
Clinton, Bush, Clinton, Palin….it’s all the same stuff. Some of it is here against Obama.
It’s just over-the-top, to me.
Look at the news shows. They yell at the “other side,” your/my side cheers. Frankly, nobody should cheer. It’s disrespectful behavior, nothing more.
Just remember, Big Black won the first two races of the Triple Crown. Ran out of gas in the Belmont, the long one. Since then, hurt his leg and won’t ever race again.
Loved Big Black. The Little o, not so much.
Quit whining. Hitch up your big girl panties. Go vote. Keep the faith. This thing is going to be won.
The horse’s name is Big Brown. FYI.
Wow Joe the Plumber agrees with someone in the audience and says If Obama wins election It will be Death to Israel…..Should wake up a few people.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/28/joe-plumber-backs-claim-obama-bring-death-israel/
What a kick that he’s stumping for McCain in Ohio.
GO JOE!
Almost forgot check out the home page on Fox news.com
it has Quotes from Obama’s book on Marxism…
Front page, should be good Oreilly and Hannity and Greta
great post american girl. if i could add one thing, it is always said that behind every successful man is a supportive women. but in Sarahs case, she has a husband that all men should aspire to be like. Todd has demonstrated how much better this country would be if all men treated their women with respect and dignity. i can honestly say this because the women who stands by me, not behind me, is one of the strongest women i have ever met in my life. after 30 years of marriage, i think my opinion carrys some weight. Of the 4 candidates, i would rather have Sarah as POTUS, but i will be honored to have her as VP.
Don’t blast me please…but I find that there are few women I would vote for.
I am weird among my friends because my focus was never on soaps, clothes, hair, make-up, etc.
Frankly, I find all that stuff boring. I would rather discuss books, politics, world events.
For women to continue to diminish themselves, to garner approval of others, is destructive, and also selective.
As long as another must take the lead, those who follow can play it safe!
That subjective mentality is imposed and adopted!
I don’t know any women who focus on clothes, hair, make-up etc. (maybe when I was thirteen!) Who have you been hanging with? I think that’s a Madison avenue thing.
I’ve always been a bookworm myself, a c-SPAN, Book TV certified geek nerd. But I think there are just as many women, probably a lot more than men, that I would vote for. The problem is the problem that it’s always been in history. How many people know that Mozarts’ sister was just as talented and wrote many of the works accredited to her brother? The guys still get the limelight (except when it comes to sex and Hollywood type attention) and you don’t hear as much about smart, talented and experienced women.
I would think that hanging an effegy of a vp candidate and the presidential candidate consumed in flames would be considered a death threat by the Secret Service.
What kind of person does this? What if this was his mother? A very sad statement on our society.
And an even sadder statement on the condition of out political system. This should have been roundly condemned; the silence is deafening from those who should be out front on this issue.
I can’t look at the picture of the effigy of her and not feel sick to my stomach.
Comment by imustprotest | 2008-10-28 19:04:52
I can’t look at the picture of the effigy of her and not feel sick to my stomach.
Agreed. This is sick, regardless of who it depicts; because it depicts political candidates, it’s also a sign of the political sickness that has infected our nation.
The more I hear Sara Palin, the more I like her, even though I do not agree with some of her policies. She is real genuine. I truly believe that she will be president one day, unlike Hillary, who I believe will never have the chance as long as she remains a democrat. So sorry Hillary…I wanted you in the White House because you were the best candidate. For now I am voting McCain/Palin, and I hope they win.
I have to admit, I think the display is funny and well done.
I don’t have any sense that this is intended to be against women. It’s a political Halloween statement, and that’s all.
It’s a bit more creative than the moose-shoot on SNL.
What?????? Unbelievable.
Oh well, I liked the Waffle mix sold at the RNC, too.
Have a bit of fun.
Whatever, I’m sickened by the display. You obviously have your own opinion on it.
Sorry, AnninCA. On this one I totally disagree. There’s nothing funny about hanging a woman, slugging a woman or killing a woman. Yes, it’s an effigy. But it’s a symbol of the disregard so many of these young men have for women in general. We’ve heard the filthy names in repeated posts.
There’s point at which you say “No!” Pretending that hanging a figure of Sarah Palin is good, clean fun is where I say, “Stop it! Stop it, now.”
If this were a figure of Barack Obama or Michelle Obama no one would be laughing. Why? Because of the history. Take a gander at the stats on violence against women that no one ever wants to talk about. It’s not new. It goes wa-a-y back.
This is not a funny stunt. It’s an insult.
And btw, my older sister died at the hands of her husband. So, I’m clean out of good humor.
Oh, well its ole AnninCA. Desperate for attention – for the 1000th time.
Grow some self-esteem Ann, ASAP!
If it’s not hate, what is it— deep seated perversion. This election has brought out the very worst in people and the best; though locating it is like a needle in a haystack and once one does.. watch the sparks fly. I’d also like to point out to the individual that not all Russian American heritages and backgrounds behave in that manner; from the upper Midwest peninsula, we’d very easily shoot several deer, wash the skins, debone, and can the meat. We respect Sarah Palin because she represents survivalism.
Really psyched. Analyzed the data from the presidential election at our school and discovered two things: The old the students were, the more likely they were to vote for McCain and that young male voters voted overwhelmingly for McCain. Teachers however were kooky!!! Out of 80 teachers and administrators: 23 voted McPalin, 55 voted Obiden, 2 Ron Paul. The most liberal were the Math teachers, the English Teachers, and the Science Teachers. Most conservative were the Social Studies teachers and the Other teachers (Category for people that didn’t fall into a specified department.) Math and English were really bad, all but three were for Os..bama.
Political effigies are not new, folks. There were TONS of Bush effigies last year.
What I personally find off-putting? Nobody dares do one on Obama.
Now, THAT bugs me.
*Freedom of speech…..protect it!*
INSIST on it.
It’s just time one of you creative types return the fun of Halloween and do one on Obama and Biden.
I just read a comment BY YOU that you want to PURCHASE it. WTF!
Its one thing to be schizophrenic in private, quite another to be pasted all over this very popular blog. Feel better now.
Comment by AnninCA | 2008-10-28 19:00:24
There is nothing funny about a woman candidate for VP being hung in a noose on a thugs front porch-gay or straight, it doesn’t matter. Halloween is just an excuse to do this. The real motive is hate and not Halloween. FBI needs to pay them a visit.
I read the latest story on the la times website and there is a poll and comments that says a majority think its offensive.
I think Sarah and her family should visit this guy and ask him to his face, why he thinks she’s so scary.
Ask yourself why you can’t get away with hanging a black effigy; then ask yourself how this came to be.
We have a right to free speech. We may not like what the other guy has to say, but he has the right to say it. The problem has become that only certain views are allowed. Neither we nor the government has the right to choose who can say what. I’ve heard many many things in my life that I’ve found offensive. How I chose to react or not react was my decision, no one elses.