“What Sarah Palin Taught Us” and Hillary 2012
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on October 28, 2008 at 9:45 AM in Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Chicago politics, Domestic Terrorist, Hillary Clinton, Illinois senate, Joe Biden, John Edwards, John Kerry, John McCain, Media Bias, Misogyny, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., Rev. Michael Pfleger, Sarah Palin, Sexism, Women
Many of us seem to be on a roll these days - the roll being calling out the degrading treatment of women by the Democratic Party. Yet, those loyal female Democrats are all too willing to accept this treatment, and vote for The One who stole this nomination from Hillary Clinton, aided and abetted by the DNC. I urge you to read Uppity Woman’s OUTSTANDING piece, “Sisters! Remember Then And Do Not Forget Now. Or Pay The Price,” at both her site and No Quarter. Uppity Woman tells it like it is, and in this post, beseeches women to open our eyes. I could not agree more.
It seems that others are noticing the rampant sexism/misogyny, and the hypocrisy of the “liberal elite” when it comes to who can be a feminist or not. Victor David Hanson would be one such person in his article,An Instructive Candidacy: What Sarah Palin taught us about ourselves. In his excellent piece, parts of which are excerpted here, Mr. Hanson takes on not just the Feminist Police, but the journalists who have been “reporting” during this campaign season:
Soon this depressing campaign will be over, and we can reflect on what we learned from our two-month introduction to Sarah Palin.Clearly, it is more than we would have ever wished to know about ourselves.
First, there turns out to be no standard of objectivity in contemporary journalism. Palin’s career as a city councilwoman, mayor, and governor of Alaska was never seen as comparable to, or — indeed, in terms of executive experience — more extensive than, Barack Obama’s own legislative background in Illinois and Washington. Somehow we forgot that a mother of five taking on the Alaskan oil industry and the entrenched male hierarchy was somewhat more challenging than Barack Obama navigating the sympathetic left-wing identity politics of Chicago.
Well, true that. Everyone seems to have convenient amnesia when it comes to the accomplishments of the Governor of Alaska. Far too often, I have seen letters to the editor or comments at blogs claiming she is “just a mother of five.” No, she is that, which is no small thing, by the way, to which my mother can attest, but she is One of FIFTY governors in the entire United States, with the highest approval rating of any governor, as well as one who has taken on her own party, and WON, thank you so much.
But I digress:
So we seem to have forgotten that the standards of censure of her vice-presidential candidacy were not applied equally to the presidential campaign of Barack Obama. The media at times seems unaware of this embarrassment, namely that their condemnation of Sarah Palin as inexperienced equally might apply to Barack Obama — and to such a degree that by default we were offered the lame apology (reiterated by Colin Powell himself) that Obama’s current impressive campaigning, not his meager political accomplishments, was already an indication of a successful tenure as president. The result is that we now know more about the Palin pregnancies — both of mother and daughter — that we do the relationships of Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers, Reverend Wright, and Father Pfleger with our possible next president.
No FREAKIN’ KIDDING! Obama hasn’t had a tenth of the vetting in eighteen months that Palin has had in two months - nice that some people are keeping score here. Hanson continues:
Indeed, the media itself — in private, I think — would admit that while (we? they?) have learned almost everything about Tasergate and the Bridge to Nowhere, we assume that at some future date a publicity-starved, megalomaniac Rev. Wright will soon offer his post-election memoirs, detailing just how close he and a President Obama were. Or we will learn Barack Obama and Bill Ayers, as long-time friends, in fact, did communicate via phone and e-mail well after Ayers had told the world, about the time of 9/11, that he, like our present-terrorist enemies, likewise wished he had engaged in more bombing attacks against the United States government. And the media never wondered whether a Palin’s falling out with those who ran Alaska might have been more of a touchstone to character than Obama’s own falling in with those who ran Chicago.
Uh, yeah. For some reason, while still in the Primary season, the MSM were all too happy to do their level best to ignore anything to do with Wright. They downplayed the videos, believed Obama when he claimed he certainly didn’t hold the same beliefs that Wright does even though his butt was in the pew in that church for over twenty years, and even though he called Wright his “uncle.” Oh, no - we must take him at his word that he would NEVER believe in that hate mongering theology. Just like we are supposed to take him at his word about Bill Ayers, Domestic Terrorist-Who-Wishes-He-Had-Been-More-Successful! Never you mind that they have been hanging around with each other for the past 13 years, working together, living near each other, and handing out hundreds of thousands of dollars to promote Ayers’ “unique” ideology to the youth of Chicago, through Wright, of course. Obama is such a straight shooter, naturally we must believe every word that escapes his lips, right?? Evidently.
And now is when we get to the issue of feminism:
Second, there does not seem to be much left of feminism any more. Of course, feminists once gave liberal pro-choice Bill Clinton a pass for his serial womanizing of vulnerable subordinates, and Oval Office antics with a young female intern. But they gave the game away entirely when they went after Gov. Palin for her looks, accent, pregnancies, and religion, culminating in assessments of her from being no real woman at all to an ingrate — piggy-backing on the pioneer work of self-acclaimed mavericks like themselves.Feminism, it turns out, is no longer about equal opportunity and equal compensation, but, in fact, little more than a strain of contemporary elitist identity politics, and support for unquestioned abortion. Had Gov. Sarah Palin just been a mother of a single child at Vassar rather than of five in Alaska, married to a novelist rather than a snow-machiner, an advocate of pro-choice, who shot pictures of Alaskan ferns rather than shot moose — feminists would have hailed her as a principled kindred soul, and trumpeted her struggles against Alaskan male grandees.
So there was something creepy about droves of irate women, in lock-step blasting Sarah Palin from the corridors of New York and Washington, when most of them were the recipients of the traditional spoils of either family connections, inherited money, or the advantages that accrue from insider power marriages. Indeed, very few of Palin’s critics on their own could have emerged from a small-town in Alaska, with an intact marriage and five children, to run the state of Alaska.
We have come to understand that — for a TV anchorwoman, op-ed columnist, or professor — it would be a nightmare to birth a Down Syndrome child in her mid-forties, or to have had her pregnant unwed teen actually deliver her baby. In the world outside Sarah Palin’s Wasilla, these are career-ending blunders that abort the next job promotion or book tour— or the future career of a prepped young daughter on her way to the Ivy League.
Right? I’ve known people who couldn’t endure the stress of their partner getting a PhD., for cryin’ out loud, much less the stress of moving from one level of government to another with five kids, one of whom is a Special Needs child. Add to that the lack of support from her own party in doing these things, and you got yourself some stress. Which Sarah Palin has handled with seeming ease, a feat that should have been CELEBRATED by feminists, not ridiculed.
Hanson then takes on the whole Biden v. Palin contest:
Third, from the match-up of Joe Biden and Sarah Palin, we discovered that our media does not know anything about the nature of wisdom — how it is found or how it is to be adjudicated. For the last eight weeks, Palin has been demonized as a dunce because she did not, in the fashion of the class toady with his hand constantly up in the first row, impress in flash-card recall, the glasses-on-his-nose Charlie Gibson, or clinched-toothed Katie Couric.Meanwhile Joe Biden has just been Ol’ Joe Biden — which means not that he can get away with the occasional gaffe, but that can say things so outrageous, so silly, and so empty that, had they come out of the mouth of Sarah Palin, she would have long ago been forced to have stepped aside from the ticket.
Factual knowledge? Biden, in the midst of a financial meltdown on Wall Street, apparently thinks that the last time it happened in 1929, we heard FDR rally us on television. And such made-up nonsense came in the form, as many of Biden’s gaffes do, of a rebuke to the supposedly obtuse George W. Bush…
Amazingly, very, very little is made of either Biden’s OR Obama’s gaffes, though BOTH of them have PLENTY. Had Clinton, or McCain, or Palin, or anyone else made the factual inaccuracies or flat out lies that either of these men have made, they would be running across the bottom of your screen for days on end. But Biden and Obama? Hahaha, they made a mistake, move along, nothing to see here. Sheesh. Here are just a few for you:
Silliness? Imagine the following outbursts, mutatis mutandis, from the mouth of a Sarah Palin — “John McAmerica,” “a Palin-McCain administration,” “Senator George Obama,” “Congressman Joe Biden,” who is both “good looking,” and “drop-dead gorgeous.” Or “I guarantee you, John McCain ain’t taking my shotguns. . . . If he tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s got a problem. I like that little over and under, you know? I’m not bad with it. So give me a break.”Or “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.” Or “Mitt Romney is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Quite frankly he might have been a better pick than me.”
Holy toledo. Reversing the positions helps to highlight just how absurd all of this has been…I agree with the following assessment:
The list could go on ad nauseam. But we got the picture. Biden has devolved from the ridiculous to the unhinged, confident that in-house journalism would understand that the law graduate with 36 years in the Senate was simply being Joe, while a Sarah Palin, who flinched when asked to parse the Bush Doctrine, was a Neanderthal creationist. I thought by now the You-tubed exchange of a Congressional Finance Committee hearing between the pompous Harvard Law School graduate Barney Frank and the conniving Harvard Law School graduate Franklin Raines — at the proverbial moment of conception of the financial meltdown — would have put to rest the notion that graduation from law school was any proof of either wisdom or morality.I don’t know whether Sarah Palin would make a great vice president. But I did learn that by the standard of John Kerry’s pick of John Edwards, and now Barack Obama’s choice of Joe Biden, as running mates, she is wise and ethical beyond their measure.
— NRO contributor Victor Davis Hanson is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution.
He’s got a point, don’t you think?
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My first taste of this sexism came last January, when a woman in my family attacked Clinton with such a shocking verbal viciousness I still have trouble relating to this woman…And, surprise, surprise, this same woman now attacks Palin with delight.
Oh, and perhaps this is obvious, but this woman is an ardent Obama supporter…sign.
Next time she attacks Clinton or Palin, just ask point blank, “Why do you have such low self esteem?”
My own sister, a RABID feminist, hates Hillary. She said she refused to vote for anyone who hid FBI(?) files under a table in the WH. HUH???? I told her Hillary wouldn’t have hidden any files under any table had the Republican Party not launched a BOGUS 8 year investigation into everything and anything the Clintons had ever been involved in, but it didn’t matter. Hillary hid files, so she just couldn’t vote for her. *rolling eyes* I am so looking forward to repeating Madeleine Albright’s quote to her…”There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t support other women.”
Oh….and she HATES, HATES, HATES Sarah Palin. It makes her “sick how ‘that woman’ uses ‘that kid of hers’ (Trig) as a prop to get votes.” Yes indeed! That’s what this rabid ’supposed’ feminist had the nerve to say to me! I suggested that just maybe Sarah missed her baby and wanted to hold him and see him, but she wasn’t buying any of it. I swear, I don’t know what’s happening to this country and its people anymore.:( I never thought I’d see the day my sister would turn on other women like she has! It makes me sick and it will take a LONG time before I forgive her for her BO support. Shame on her.
I was an ardent Hillary Clinton supporter, but it saddens me to say that I can not vote for her if she does run again.
She let everyone of us down that fought so hard for her. And now she and Bill are on the campaign trail fighting for Obama, I can’t do it.
She chose party over the people who would have put her in office. She turned her back on us and I can never forgive her for that.
I know a lot of her supporters won’t like what I have said, but it is how I feel. She is now supporting Barack Obama 100% and that means I can never support her again.
I completely relate. I want to vomit everytime I see Hillary and Bill on the campaign trail carrying his water. Either they were lying during the primaries or lying now. To me, Obinokinobe is no ordinary candidate - he’s dangerous. Their partisanship is unacceptable, disappointing and infuriating.
I agree with this totally. I think both Hillary and Bill Clinton should not be supporting Obama like this. I think Hillary goes too far in supporting “the party” and I will not support her in the future - she seems weak. Maybe Obama has just succeeded in demoralizing them both.
Hillary and Pres. Clinton are doing what they feel they need to do to try to keep the party together. Listen to what they both say in supporting Obama and how they say it. They support the Democratic Party only, not Obama. So pleaes vote for Hillary in 2012 if she decides to run. Don’t give up on her - I haven’t, she is still my hero.
I will be voting for McCain/Palin in this election to show to the Democrats that after what they did to our most qualified candidate for President, I cannot support the most unqualified candidate they annointed to represent us.
Remember when Al Gore was running and the far left bunch decided they were going to vote for Nader because Gore was as bad as Bush? Now they expect us moderates to vote for Obama? Yeah right.
Bill Clinton was the best Democrat since Johnson or maybe FDR. The “third-way” or “DLC” democrat is no joke or “Bush-Cheney Lite” as Obama called it. It is the right course correction for Johnson’s Great Society - replacing welfare with work and improving education, health care, and infrastructure. And in terms of foreign policy, creating potential allies, but taking a hard line against rogue states like Iraq and Bosnia. It is the only path that makes sense. Gore would have continued this path and so would Hillary.
But now all have been thrown under the bus in the far-left coup. Yes, they’re campaigning for Obama but they do have some obligations to the party, as I’m sure the party has helped them in the past. I think its said but don’t hold it against them enough to lose sight of the fact that they’re the ones who need to be supported.
The real fight is going to happen in the next primary season and both you and I need to be there to take back the party. The current leadership - Pelosi, Reid, etc - is a joke and has to go. Michael Moore is funny but you don’t let him run the country but that’s where we are.
Hillary has no choice if she wants to remain a Senator and a politician. The Democratic Party could and WOULD dispose of her, DESTROY HER if she didn’t kiss their asses. She was also promised by the LIAR BO that he would pay off her campaign debt. Do you not think he’s holding that over her head? I will NEVER blame Bill and Hill for doing what they have to do to remain in power.
It is too soon to know how Hillary will look to us in the final analysis. The last act has not been played, and although it is very true that she disappointed most of us by backing Obama, she may yet prove to be a strong force working against him, whether he wins or loses. Either way, there will be a struggle for the soul of the Democratic party. At this point, I can’t imagine working for Hillary in the future, but one never knows, do one??? The main thing right now is that we do not divide PUMA’s by arguing over future support of Hillary. That battle will be fought later, probably right here on No Quarter. For now we all agree–DEFEAT OBAMA!!!
I agree with your comment. The jury is out.
But, Hillary is between a rock and a hard place. She and Bill were labeled racists. I think this is the number 1 reason they are supporting 0bama. They are trying to get their good name back in the black community. Many of you seem to trivialize the importance of this, but the truth is, without the support of the black community, Hillary would stand zero chance of winning, even in NYC. Also, the Progressives would use this as an opportunity run someone against her in NY. Those 2 things combined would end her career. Period. And that’s just as a Senator.
0bama put them in a rotten place for which I will never forgive him because they are not racists. Even if he wins, there is a percentage of AAs that believe they are racists. If he loses, many more will buy into this belief.
I am saddened to see Hillary supporting 0bama, and it has even impacted my resolve to support her. If 0bama wins, I’m seriously considering not voting for her come re-election here in NY.
Frankly, unless 0bama is exposed for the rotten scumbag he is, I don’t think the Clintons will ever ressurect their reputations. The only thing that would do it is if McCain pulled off a landslide. And it doesn’t look as if that’s going to happen. Even if McCain squeaks a win, 0bama will want to come back in 2012 unless all of his chickens come home to roost.
But I understand how people feel. At this point, I can no longer defend Hillary enthusiastically.
Well, you’ve got until 2012 to consider Hillary’s re-election bid, so I wouldn’t be too concerned with that. Bear in mind, however, that if Obama does win next week and turns out to be the disaster that WE all know he is, Hillary will have to weigh her options whether to run for re-election or run against Obama. Since 1968, we haven’t had a single seated and still-eligible President who has decided to run for re-election, regardless of his popularity, or lack thereof. (The last President to do so was LBJ and he quite literally waited until the last possible moment to withdraw from consideration. He did have a number of health issues that helped him decide against running, in addition to the mire that was Vietnam.)
As to a McCain victory next week and Obama running in 2012, I don’t see it happening. My first reason: Going back to the birth of the GOP in 1854, and its first head-to-head competition against the Democratic Party, there have been exactly TWO Democrats who were nominated by the Party more than once and lost every time. First, there was William J Bryan who ran against William McKinley TWICE (1896, 1900) and lost both times, then came back in 1908 and lost to William Howard Taft. Then, there was Adlai E Stevenson who went up against Eisenhower TWICE (1952, 1956) and lost both times.
My second (probably more important) reason: Obama has a Senate seat that he will have to defend in 2010 (again, this presumes he loses next week, inshallah*) and he will have a much tougher fight doing so since ANY opponent (Democrat OR Republican) can point out how little time Obama spent serving AS a Senator during his first term, a claim that almost no politician wants to have to explain. Obama cannot successfully pull the “historic nature” ploy since that doesn’t (or shouldn’t) mean diddily to serving the people of Illinois (a US Senator is supposed to weigh his constituents’ needs against the needs of the whole country; a President’s constituents ARE the whole country–he’s not supposed to show favoritism). Then, Obama would be in a rough position since the next Presidential campaign would officially begin a year after he would take his oath of office as a Senator–he would take that oath on Jan 4, 2011 (possibly Jan 5) while the 2012 Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary–unless something changes in the meantime–would take place by Jan 15, 2012. For him to be involved with EITHER would require a formal decision by November 2011, at the latest (unless he just wants to hope his “campaign” will start itself). I would relish Obama swearing to the people of Illinois that he would not run for President in 2012 (something he’d almost certainly be forced to do if he really expects to continue as Senator), since he’d find himself in the same place Hillary was in 2004 (she’d promised New Yorkers she wouldn’t run for President if elected their Senator in 2000–she kept her word). Hillary has years to decide what her next step will be; Obama, if he loses next week (inshallah*), has no more than six months to decide his next step.
*I apologize for the Arabic invocation (meaning “by the will of God” or “God willing”), but I thought it wryly amusing to use it. (Just for the record, while it’s more commonly thought of as a Muslim phrase, it’s common among Arab Christians as well, and is the source of the Spanish exclamation, ¡ojalá!, meaning “I hope that” or “how I hope”.)
Do you honestly think that if Oblahblah wins this election, Hillary will be doing anything other than sweeping out the stockroom? Come on. Everything that you know about Obama’s past actions, predicts his future behavior.
Her only hope of political survival is a McCain win.
I’m astonished at her & Bill. I was okay with them on the sidelines & understood; but actively campaigning for The One? Like someone mentioned, she was either lying then or lying now.
This isn’t to say that I will never vote for her again. It depends on the situation in 2012. But I don’t trust her as much as I used to.
Hillary will be challanged in her relection bid to the senate and will lose in the primaries. The Obama Machine will make sure of that.
If Obama wins the Clintons and every one of their supporters will be run out of the party.
Voting for Obama is voting against Hillary.
Unfortunately I think you are right about this and I think that the Clintons know it too - the Obama machine (which includes the media, which almost completely shields and protects him) has just become so powerful and the Clintons know that they can’t fight it.
I agree with everyone’s disappointment with the Clintons. But to say that Hillary was lying when we know that all politicians running against each other participate in campaign rhetoric when fighting in a Primary is being unfair.
Yesterday, Romney was with McCain. Was Romney lying? Romney is making nice so that he has a shot again in 2012 should McCain lose. It’s a matter of Party politics.
So far, all of the info we have amassed on 0bama has yet to be verified in the msm. And until it is, WE ARE THE ONES who are in a rock and a hard place. As much as I hate saying that, it’s true.
We’ve known about 0bama’s relationship with Khalidi since January. It’s now Nov, a week to the day from Election Day. The LA Times has a tape of 0bama at an event with this man and is refusing to release it. So how do we PROVE to the rest of the world that this is true?
We can’t until the facts are presented before the public.
We don’t know if Hillary and Bill have provable facts in their possession that could have derailed his candidacy. It’s pure speculation on our part. If they don’t, it would be irresponsible to accuse 0bama publicly without concrete evidence. I have to believe they are not in possession of anything damaging because if they were, they would have shown it to SDs who wanted to flip for Hillary.
I’m unhappy with Hillary, but I’m focusing my resolve to do what I committed to months ago, vote for McCain. Since my initial commitment, I am now planning to vote straight Republican. The Democratic Party, the msm and 0bama and his supporters have flipped me over to do that. In my entire life, I HAVE NEVER VOTED A STRAIGHT REPUBLICAN TICKET. But on Tuesday I will.
That everyone has conspired not to vet 0bama and ask him tough questions and have allowed him to get away with not showing his medical records, college transcripts and birth certificate has angered me to the point of extraction.
I will not support a question mark.
Got it?
No to ???????????
John McCain supported George Bush after the Bush campaign smeared John and his family in 2000. Does anyone think that McCain would have been nominated for president if he had not supported Bush in the past? Why is there a double standard for the Clintons?
There isn’t.
Only the Obots want to make it an issue.
Let Hillary and Bill in public play party loyalists.
I private they are going to pull the lever for John McCain with a vengeance.
Trust me on this.
No way in hell Hillary and Bill actually cast their votes for Obama.
Oh I believe this too. Bill, Hillary and Chelsea will do what’s right in private.
So will a lot of other Dems. Diane Feinstein comes to mind.
Still, I understand how disappointed people are. Especially because they seem to be doing more than their fair share. That I don’t like. If 0bama and his supporters revile the Clintons so much, why on earth do they need their support? Especially so enthusiastically?
Just another thing that exposes Botheads for the scumbag hypocrites that they are.
That is true enough.
Politics is a dirty business. We do not know what is happening behind the scenes. Hillary went through hell — it is unfair to judge her. She is doing what she has to do to stay viable and fight for us in the future. I may not like it, but there it is.
It is easy for people to blog anonymously and condemn others who are out there publicly everyday on the firing line. I live in a glass house and will not throw stones.
She did not create this situation. She is trying to make the best of a bad one. She is a Truman Democrat through and through. She never promised she would leave the party or become a Republican. She promised to support her party’s nominee. It is obvious that the Clintons always campaign for the party — not for him if you listen carefully to what they say.
My enmity is reserved for Obama, Axelrod and their filthy campaign tactics, the DNC who stabbed her in the back daily and the MSM, who excoriated her and did everything they could to kill her candidacy.
Nobody here can imagine what that woman went through and while I am unhappy with her actions, I am inclined to give her a break. I have never seen a politician shown the courage and fortitude she did.
Hillary has to play the part of supporting Obama if she wants to run for POTUS next time.Yes, it’s hard to watch her “stumping” for Obama, but what other choice does she have to survive in this current INSANE political climate!
Believe me, when Bill and Hillary are sipping a glass of wine(NOT kool-aid) over dinner, they are NOT praising the zero.John McCain and Hillary are friends.He’s one of the few who stuck up for her,and never trashed her.He will get their votes.
Good point, Ritamary. Excellent parallel.
As a footnote: one McCain who did not support Bush after the attacks on John: daughter Meghan, who was so disgusted by the NeoCons that she voted for Kerry. She seems to be a PUMA from the other side of the aisle–a formidable and attractive young woman. I like to fantasize that Chelsea will pull the lever for McCain-Palin, even if her mom and dad do not.
I second that. She is not putting country first.
Country First!
McCain/Palin 2008
Hillary is supporting someone who is bad for America (It’s impossible for me to forgive her for that).
same here….COUNTRY FIRST.
I don’t know if I would say that I wouldn’t support her again. I am just very depressed that she and Bill have sold out to BO. After what BO ,the weasel, and his minions, said about both of them, how can they support him?
Politically they don’t have a choice. Lighten up on them.
If your lively hood was threatened unless you publicly supported Obama at work and had an Obama sign in your yard and your boss drove by to check on it, if they were the only employers for you in town, what would you do?
Remember in the voting booth nobody can control which lever you pull.
I started watching that video and when it came to that photo of Barry and Hillary together on stage, I had to stop watching. I know people say Hillary is doing what she has to do. Honestly, if she runs again, I don’t know if I can be enthusiastic about her. At the end of the day, she proved to me that she was just another politician, doing her party talk, despite knowing that there are thousands of supporters who refuse to fall in line for all the crap that has happened: sexism, fraud, etc.. To not even mentioning it once, she is an enabler of this whole dishonest process.
As an independent voter who followed the Democratic primary with my eye on Hillary, I was not a big Hillary supporter. That being said, I stand with all the Hillary supporters, the PUMA’s, the Democrats that refuse to tow the party line. I have so much respect for you. I can see the logic in the belief that Hillary doesn’t have a choice in her support of Obama. That she is saving her political future. I can see it, but I don’t buy it. I mean, after all the crap the DNC put her (and her supporters) through, all the insinuations by the Obama camp that she and Bill were racists and the fact that this is not democracy at work; I find it hard to believe that she and Bill are willing to tow the party line for Obama.
Can you imagine the movement she would create, right now, if she were to back off of her support of Obama, and to back McCain. Of course, not because she backs McCains policies but because she sees that, at this time in our nation, it is for the good of the country. I mean are we all nuts for harboring all these misgivings about Obama?
What if she and Bill were to go to Obama and advise him to address these issues that have been coming out in the media recently? Naturally, we know he wouldn’t do that. So what if Hillary and Bill Clinton were to do some soul searching and come to the conclusion that they can no longer lend their support to this person. They would have to issue a press release about this decision. They could explain their frustrations with Obama, their concerns about where his administration would take this country and they could remark on the number of former Hillary supporters who are putting country first before party loyalty. They could remark that these are not people who are voting for McCain (or Nader or any others) because they refuse to vote for a black candidate. These are people who would have gladly voted for a black DEMOCRATIC candidate, had that candidate earned their vote and respect.
Hillary could then list all the reasons why people have been alienated by him (caucus frauds, new direction of the Democratic Party, Florida and Michigan shenanigans, all the false attacks of “racism” in his campaign, the sexism in the media that was not addressed by Obama or the DNC against Senator Clinton in the primaries and now against Governor Palin in the general election). And now there are all the unanswered questions about his campaign fundraising, what his true beliefs are on important issues concerning future of the United States, and the fact that he is where he is because the media has given him a pass; in other words he has not been vetted as she, Senator McCain and Governor Palin have been. Even Biden gets a pass as he can say any ridiculous thing he wants and everyone just laughs it off, “oh, that’s just Joe being Joe!”.
Oh, okay, I just woke up from my daydream! But I still can’t help but think that if Hillary were to walk away from the Democratic Party (as it is now), she would be helping to lead this country away from this precipice we find ourselves on just seven days away from election day. I think she would bring many people with her and after election day, when John McCain has been declared the winner and our country is able to back away from this dangerous precipice; Hillary and Bill and all the other true Democrats can go about the business of rebuilding the Democratic party. I can’t help but think that they would have the respect, not just of Democrats and those independent Hillary supporters, but also of all Americans who saw this election as one of the most important elections in our generation. Important not just because we would either be electing a black president or a female vice president (nothing wrong with either idea!), but because in this election, more so than any other in our time, the future of country is at stake.
And do you really think Hillary would ever be allowed to run again if she didn’t toe the line?
She is doing what she HAS TO DO to once again have the chance to be our leader. I feel she has had to suffer through the last few months just as we have, only she is being held to a much higher standard. I know i would never pass the test, my mouth would get away from me and i would speak my mind. The very fact that she can actually say what she is being forced to say without throwing up shows me an inner strength I do not have. It actually makes me respect her.
When Obama loses she will be free to speak her own words again. I pray for that day. My respect for her and my choice of Hillary as ,y chosen leader have not wained. I understand that it is pretty much along the lines of McCain enduring torture to make it through the Hanoi Hilton experience he went through…only to come home stronger and with a special kind of love of country that walking through a fire gives you.
Last night, I was with a group of obvious mixed political persuasions.
The one thing everyone agreed upon…the sexism of his year has been eye-opening.
We all bemoaned how every single new musical group, every single new young actress, etc., is just all about the perfection of the female sex symbol and so completely unreal that it’s nauseating.
I’d be unable to write a piece that skewered Palin on her clothes. I’d have to quit my job before doing that one. Yet, days of coverage.
Insane. It’s just absolutely shameful.
And I’m fairminded. If Republicans were to do the same on racial issues with Obama, I’d say THAT was shameful, too.
That article was exceptional. I will print it out and put in the mail boxes of the Bots in my neighborhood.
Women have got to be treated better.
McCain knows this and does treat women with respect. He seeks their advice. (his top 3 senate staffers are women)
Have faith in him and give him your vote this year. Hillary will be better off for it.
I agree, Jackie - women MUST be treated better. The level of misogyny has been shocking this election year. Add to that the “hanging in effigy” of Palin in Hollywood, and it is CLEAR - women are under attack in this country more openly than I have seen in decades…I dunno - maybe that means we will be able to address it more forcefully, but that means we have to ADDRESS it…
Glad the article is of use to you!
I don’t believe any man or woman that would put a political party or their career front and center before the National Interest can be trusted. Hundreds of thousands of men and women have put our national interest first and foremost and they have paid the ultimate price by giving their lives to preseve the freedoms and/or rights we have cherished. Some seem to think in a round about way careers are more important than those lives that have been sacrificed for all of us. COUNTRY FIRST.
If you never serve others by sacrificing yourself you can never really comprehend that the Nation’s well being is more important than your next promotion.
Bill CLinton was a good example of this, he treated those in the military very poorly and he was not all respectfull of their sacrifices. When he came to our posts and graced us with his presence it was humiliating to us. In his eyes we were the serfs to be tolerated.
Putting on that uniform even for a little while makes a huge difference in how you view the nation and its people.
Service need not only be military, firefighters, good teachers, paramedics, disaster volunteers these types of people put the gtreater good before their own. These are the real leaders in our world.
They tell us do as I do. Share of your time and treasure.
People like McCain put their money where their mouth is. McCain donates the amount of every pay raise on his senatorial salary to charity and votes against the raises every year.
Sarah Palin donated more to charity last year than Biden has in the last 8 years. Less than 1% of Baracks income over the last 10 years has been “shared” with others.
Service of your fellow human being is the difference.
John McCain challenges us to be part of something greater than our selfinterest.
Country First.
Bill Clinton DID not treat military folks badly. In fact, our benefits went up under Bill. That is a myth put forward by the right wing. It was the military contractors that got hammered under Clinton. No more $150 nuts and bolts. That’s why they went after Bill. Pay as you go and no more good ole boy handshake deals pissed them off.
NO actually we had a pay freeze under Clinton. He also started reducing the military. My MOS was targeted hard with this. Many individuals took early outs. Clinton did not give the military a raise at all.
Bill also would not allow individuals in uniform in the White House. I was doing my training in Maryland at the time and it was a big deal. The reason was that Chealsea was scared of us. Don’t believe me? You cant make this stuff up.
Under CLinton getting supplies was very hard. You had to make due with what you could get. Being medical this was not an easy accomplishment.
I am a Hillary supporter and can understand why Bill took these measures now. I can however say that it was hard on those of us who were serving under his administration. At times we were even told we might not get paid. This is alot of stress on top of having to server your country that was not needed.
The military did not get a pay raise until Bush took office.
FYI-The contractors had it much better then the active duty. I worked with many contractors and Civilian Employee’s as I was part of DOD. They always came first.
This is an issue that you are very wrong on. Clinton cut services to the military to balance the budget. He was not very popular among many of us.
I have actually come to like the man now, but in his early years he did not treat the military with the respect that was needed.
I was lucky in that I served under Eisenhower, JF Kennedy, LBJ. and last but not least–trickey Dickie Nixon–LOL!! I was part of the Marine guard for Eisenhower in 1960–Okinawa motorcade.
I saw on Fox this morning a house that was decorated for Halloween. It had a mannequin - supposedly Sarah Palin - hanging from a house with a noose around her neck.
Can you IMAGINE what would happen if they did that to an Obama mannequin???
It made me sick to my stomach.
here’s a link:
http://cbs2.com/local/Sarah.Palin.mannequin.2.849299.html
I did see that…the owner of the house said he saw nothing wrong w it because it is all just made up for Halloween-fucking’ nut!
I don’t celebrate Halloween either…this is one of the reasons. Too much evil shit, made up or not. I want no part of it.
The whole idea of belittling women seems perfectly fine at this juncture. I was looking at the end of panel discussion led by Brit Hume last night. They ended the segment with a video clip of McCain and Palin, where it appears McCain smacks Palin in the mouth, knocks her over backwards in her chair.
Cute. This is no different than that Tate video where Sarah Palin is presumably tackled during one of the Katie Couric interviews.
And what was the response of the panel? Laughter. Ha-ha.
This is the sort of thing that makes hanging an effigy of a Vice Presidential candidate a practical joke, a Halloween prank. If you lessen women, diminish them, then anything and everything is possible.
Where are the feminists calling out the thugs who propagate this garbage with abandon? Oh, that’s right. Sarah Palin is opposed to abortion on demand, so that makes her fair game. And she’s Republican, too. Forget about the fact that she’s a professional woman, college educated, married and has children. She’s the poster child for that long ago Virginia Slims ad: We’ve come a long way, baby.
Of course, she didn’t go to the right college, she only has a 68% favorability rate in Alaska, where she’s “only” a Governor, she has that weird up-country accent, and OMG she gave birth to a Down’s Syndrome baby. She must be crazy!
The so-called liberal “progressives” have exposed themselves for the frauds they are, and maybe have always been.
Sickening!
Good piece, Rev. Amy.
I’d like to know where the hell all of these feminists are, too. I was attacked by my sister recently for not supporting Obama since I was a founder of the NOW chapter in my hometown in my youth. I told her it was PRECISELY because I was a founder, and a long time feminist, that I would NEVER support Obama!! I also told her if she was so damned concerned abt women’s rights, she would have supported the person with the LONGSTANDING record of fighting for women - Hillary. Huh - come to think of it, she never addressed that response (this is a pattern with her - she attacks me, and when I respond with FACTS, she simply ignores them. She also claimed recently that Obama and Ayers weren’t really close and hardly knew each other - yikes).
Good question. Last night I SCOURED the NOW site looking for any indication that they’d made a statement about the Palin figurine hanging in effigy in West Hollywood. I thought, well, they don’t support Governor Palin but surely THIS horrendous act of misogyny deserves a good ol’ fashioned repudiation or statement from NOW, right?
No. Nothing.
McCain is not using Pallin to his best advantage.
Right now, they have her appealing to slugs.
“Gotcha Joe 6-Pack.”
She could be and should be reaching out to middle
class voters, not the bottom.
Are construction workers, plumbers, soccer moms, hockey moms, executives, business owners, etc. at the bottom? I believe Sarah is appealing to ALL Americans!!
Those slugs are human beings. So how are you different from Obamabits?
This article in the Miami Herald shows how the “Use your brain, vote McCain- Palin ticket is getting new support.
“Palin finds supporters in North Carolina
By Lisa Zagaroli
The Charlotte Observer
ASHEVILLE, N.C. _ Joy Caccavale was not impressed when GOP presidential nominee John McCain chose Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate.
“I said, ‘You’ve got to be kidding me,’ ” said Caccavale, who had been a Hillary Clinton supporter. “I knew he was just trying to get the women’s vote.”
But by Sunday, she was standing in line more than 12 hours before Palin was scheduled to make an appearance here. Earlier in the week, Caccavale had done something she’d never done before in her life – she’d voted for a Republican for president instead of for the Democratic nominee, Sen. Barack Obama.
“My opinion has changed over time,” said Caccavale, who lives in Fairview and is an assistant at an elementary school. “She has the experience. And I started to be turned off by Obama. There are too many unanswered questions about where he is on the issues.”
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/742629.html
Great article. Of course seeing first hand what was plotted and systematically carried out by the DNC and Obama to Hillary - knowing what Obama has done to HRC, Alice Palmer and now Palin…What kind of self loathing woman would vote for Obama? “Party?” I don’t understand what that means. The DNC is nothing but a heartless, criminal embarrassment to America that now has us in this mess. Loyalty to the DNC? Might I ask if that’s the same thing as being led to the gas chambers by Hitler? Women voting for Obama are complicite in the destruction of feminism as we know it. Never mind the entire country and its well being. WTF happened to women this year?
By the way, maybe someone can do an article soon about why:
Jews
Blacks
Hispanics
Whites
Seniors
Special Needs Families
The Handicapped
Gays/Lesbians
Etc.
Why would any of the above vote for Obama either? I have news - he’s not helping them either. The one that pisses me off the most is the Jews. If people don’t get why that’s a bad idea…it’s another WTF?
I think they’re voting for him because he has a “D” after his name - plain and simple.
No research - at all. Any and all criticism of THE ONE is “Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity rightwing spin.”
Then, of course, there’s the famous “racist” catchall.
All Democrats (that includes Jews, blacks, hispanics, etc.) are just programmed to happily fall in line behind the “D” - they don’t have to be “informed” - they still believe (because they don’t look past the “D”) the party has always had the moral highground - democrats take care of the little guys - democrats are all about the safety net.
That’s how I used to think - until this year when I learned to think.
I heard on Fox, McCain will have a new ad, where Biden says don’t worry you will not be taxed below $150K. I guess it has now changed from $250k to $150k.
McCain brought this up at his Hershey PA rally today. He said before long it will be down to taxing no one under $42k.
Obama already used the 40k range. It was in the debate between him na d Hillary. He has always believed it to be in this range IMO. He just changed it to get the votes.
Actually, I remember that debate. He initially said $150,000 (not 42,000).
He revised it. It was VERY poorly received in coastal areas, where the cost of living is a lot higher.
That’s when he hit on the 250,000 figure.
It’ll end up being 150,000.
AND PLEASE ON ELECTION DAY REMEMBER THIS AND DO NOT REWARD OBAMA’S DISGUSTING CAMPAIGN WITH YOUR VOTE!
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/2008/05/rfk-assassination-character.html
Tuesday, May 27, 2008
THE RFK ASSASSINATION, CHARACTER ASSASSINATION, AND OBAMA’S ASSASSINATION OF THE TRUTH
Politics is a dirty business.Everybody knows that. But the other day thanks to Barack Obama, his campaign manager, The Axelrod of Evil, and the mainstream news media it just got dirtier.A lot dirtier.In fact it got dirtier than anything politics has seen since the days of Richard Nixon.And that’s not being fair to Nixon because I doubt even he would have ever stooped as low as Obama did in his response to Clinton’s remarks.
Bill Burton from the Obama campaign and Barack Obama himself responding to Clinton’s remarks about RFK immediately issued a statement that Clinton’s remarks “were unfortunate and had no place in the campaign”.Just in case the idiots in the news media didn’t get the point Burton included a link to a NY Post story referencing Obama’s early secret service protection and that he had been the recipient of threats.
The implication that the Obama campaign was trying to convey and which many in the media swallowed like trained seals catching a fish, was that her remarks implied that she was staying in the race just in case someone knocked off Obama. The press dutifully behaved like the trained seals they have been since the beginning and swallowed the fish that was thrown to them, then blew their horns.
Keith Olbermann,who tries every night to be the Value Meal version of Edward R. Murrow, swallowed the fish, and did some of the biggest tricks, throwing his head around with the fish in his mouth, eating it, then blowing the horn the loudest as he joined the growing list of pro Obama journalists making total fools out of themselves, shredding their credibility worse than it was before. Anyone who watched Olbermann give you your Value Meal dollar’s worth saw that he had his knee jerking uncontrollably while he spat out the the word “assassination”.
(Maybe we should get him a horn to blow to put on his desk).
Less than 24 hours later, Olbermann and the NY Post, and other main stream news outlets looked like their jerking knees knocked out their front teeth since Robert Kennedy Jr and the board of the newspaper to whom Clinton made the remarks came to her defense and anyone with 2c for a brain which seems to exclude Olbermann and the NY Post and as usual, Andrea Mitchell, knew that Clinton had not been referencing Obama or assassinations but that Kennedy had been campaigning into June when he had been assassinated.
Yes a clumsy remark and not the best reference she could have used, but that was more the fault of her campaign than anything else, a failure on the part of her campaign people for not having a prepared and well thought out answer for a question they had to know was coming. And given all the good answers she has to that question it makes you wonder what these people behind the scenes are doing.
But when Obama issued his statement he and his campaign hit new lows when they twisted her response so that Obama could play something he loves to play– the victim.The passive - aggressive victim.
It’s not the first time The day after the ABC debate when Obama was nailed consistently and hammered with questions he couldnt adequately answer, he accused Clinton in a speech the very next day, of “sticking in the knife and twisting it”. And this is what Obama has been doing from the beginning while the news media aids and abetts his political muggings. He sucker punches Clinton then hits the deck and acts the victim so if Clinton hits back he cries victimhood.
Obama then went into Act Two of his passive/aggressive dirty politics drama when he accepted an apology from Clinton that she didnt give him and that he didn’t have coming. Again the equivalent of hitting the ground after you sucker punch someone so the person cant hit back and if they do you scream that you re being attacked. Another cute little trick from Mr. Rejecting the Politics of the Past.
First he and the Axelrod of Evil put out this nonsense in much the same way Bush accused Kerry of “insulting the troops” ( Obama has learned his Karl Rove lessons well), hoping to stir up a media frenzy which it did, and then Obama hits the pavement before she can swing back, say he accepts her apology ( when she wasn’t even apologizing to him) and then The Axelrod of Evil goes on television and says after the sucker punch does as much damage as it can, that, as far as he is concerned the incident is over.That is Obama once again hitting the deck.
It’s probably time for Clinton supporters to let them know its not over. Maybe its time to let them know that after this it’s never going to be over.
If this isn’t the last straw for Clinton voters it probably should be. Clinton voters and everyone connected to her campaign should let it be known publicly and to Obama personally that after this, there will be no reconciliation, no unity, no coming together IF super delegates are stupid enough and corrupt enough to subvert the democratic system and give the nomination to the person the majority of Democrats have voted against . They should let everyone know there will be no reconciliaton. In fact if Obama gets the nomination the winds are already blowing for a huge democratic defeat in the fall.
And then the Democrats responsible will once again wonder why Democrats lose elections.
The Democratic party cannot afford to send out a candidate the majority of voters voted against. They cant afford to send out a candidate just to fullfill a false and corrupt media agenda. And the Democrats cant afford to send out a dirty politician as their presidential candidate. The country will not elect a dirty politician. Not one who has shown the capacity to be as dirty as Obama.
What Obama did with Clinton’s remarks would have been too low even for Nixon. To exploit one of the country’s greatest tragedies for his own political gain would have been beneath Nixon. But not Obama.
Whatever ones wants to say about McCain, however much one wants to disagree with him ( and I do about almost everything) he is a clean politician. There is nothing dirty about him or his politics. On the other hand, Obama is not only unprepared for the job he wants, he is not only not qualified for the job he wants, he is unfit for the job he wants. His lack of character has been apparent for a long time.What he and Axelrod did with Clinton’s remarks speaks for itself. Obama would lose in a landslide to John McCain and he would deserve to. He has nothing to run on.
It will be up to the remaining super delegates,even the ones Obama is trying to bribe with campaigin contributions (more on that in another peice), to decide if the country is going to be more important than their campaign chests. If they do Clinton wins the nomination because when the primary process is over she will be the choice of the majority of democrats and will beat Obama handily in every metric available. It already obvious that the delegate apportionment system is corrupt and in no way a reliable indicator of the will of the people.
If super delegates corrupt the democratic process and send out a dishonest and dirty politician like Obama, one that the majority of Democrats voted against, the Democrats are assured of losing in November.
Super delegates have only one decision to make now. Do they want a Democrat in the White House come January or not. Because any super delegate vote for Obama is going to be a vote for John McCain. And in the fall.17 million Clinton voters are going to make sure of that. And no one can blame them.
Posted by Marc Rubin at 11:09 AM
If Obama Wins, Hillary will never be able to run for president.
Count on it.
If Kennedy couldnt unseat a wildly unpopular moron like carter what makes you think anyone could unseat the Fraud and his thugs in his reelection bid.
Seriously, If you are a Hillary Supporter and you are voting Obama 08, never mention Hillary 12 ever again. Your vote for obama kills that as sure as sniper fire killed her momentum.
OK, we know all this. What are we going to do about it?
The press in this country is in dire shape. How can that be fixed?
Fix it? Are you joking?
Read this article!
There is no fixing it now.
Every last one of em should be booted out of the industry and never allowed to write anything without a warning to readers about their lack of ethics.
Just like Sex offenders have to register with the local police station, these new breed of journalists and in the tank editors whould have to register with the public and let them know that they bear the shameful badge of bias before any reporting and after every story.
I was wondering the same thing this morning. Feeling so helpless like my one little vote in CALIFORNIA isn’t going to do crap. I AM going to go do precinct walks for McCain in Nevada next weekend. God help anyone I run in to. I tend to get rather emotional when it comes to McCain and Palin. It makes me nutty to think that they might not get their shot, the one they deserve and the one that will heal America.
I don’t think my vote for McCain in Texas will matter either.
But I’m going to do it anyway. For me, it’s not about the electoral votes here (since McCain will probably win Texas); I’m showing up for McCain/Palin, and putting my foot down to the Obamacrats.
I voted last Saturday for everything that had republican above it.LOL. Never voted republican before in my life. Only way I had to fight back. Now I want revenge–even if the man from Kenya loses–I want revenge for the destruction of the democratic party by the damned socialists.
ME, TOO! I have voted the democratic ticket my entire life (40 years of voting) and this year I refuse to vote for ANY democrats! I am so ashamed of being a part of the democratic party this year!
Who wants to be a part of the party that cheated to get somebody elected? Who wants to be a part of the party who has been so filthy and vicious towards women?
Not one democrat will get my vote!
It’s been some years since I lived in Texas, but I can’t believe they’ll go blue. I lived in Dallas, which was big fundamentalist Republican country, so maybe my view is skewed. But you think obama could take Texas? I can’t believe it.
Then, I respectfully suggest, don’t go.
A caller blasted me once because he got so emotional. I went out of my way to make sure I voted against that proposition.
Voted for McCain/Palin today and a straight Republican ticket
as did my husband who has NEVER voted before.
I supported Hillary in the Primary and have voted for Democrats all my life. What happened some might ask? Obama
Three new McCain/Palin signs on my street and I went outside this morning to find each one gone, just the metal stand remaining. Got the spare one out of the car and put it right back up! Going to GOP office today to get more!
get a surveillance camera and set it up.
Also you might want to consider rigging a live electrical wire to the metal frame of the sign…
and a little gnome set to go off with a prerecorded message when the juice flows…”YOU’VE BEEN TAZED BRO!”
Set up a field of big ole beaver traps. XXXXXXXXXX require a license beaver traps don’t. Bear traps are too heavy and cost more. Beaver traps have powerful jaws, just be sure to chain and stake your beaver traps down so the jerks don’t run off with them. ;). Nothing I hate worse than a thieving beaver.
There are lots of good reasons why this is a very bad idea–too many to enumerate. Don’t try it.
You don’t win an election by worrying yourself to death. You win by making the OTHER candidate’s supporters worry THEMSELVES to death. An I think we are doing just that!
I live in an urban area in NC and the early voting place was packed with McCain voters. It wasn’t that way last week. They are coming out in droves I tell ya. I thought it would be a bunch of OS’ers (code words for Obama Supporters).
It won’t even be close here in NC. I am not sure the method that are being used to poll, but they are way off. This is NOT a battleground state.
Interesting. The IBD poll has great break-downs. One figure I was surprised to see was that McCain is ahead in the suburban vote.
Obama is still ahead in the urban vote.
It almost looks to me, anyway, that this is coming down to the city mouse versus the country mouse.
The other thing was can do is quickly donate to the GOP group that is funding the Wright videos.
http://nationalrepublicantrust.com/
I think if they have enough money to get the word out in battleground states it will help. I donated this morning.
Thanks Amy!
The only positive to be garnered from this episode are the votes, across the spectrum of the population, that were cast for Hillary, and WILL be cast for Sarah!
When extraordinary, learned women are treated in the manner they were, it does not bode well for those of us who consider ourselves to be ordinary and commonplace!
Yes we are all unique, but our value is only recognized by our creator and our loved ones.
Fortunately, there are many who recognize the sexism…but women, who are intent on voting for ANY democrat, are not among them!
Let’s write to the Dallas Morning News…the story teller’s email address is listed below.
Roar of PUMAs, vocal Hillary Clinton supporters, has softened
06:49 AM CDT on Tuesday, October 28, 2008
By KAREN BROOKS / The Dallas Morning News
kmbrooks@dallasnews.com
AUSTIN – If the polls and the media are any indication, the once-ferocious roar of the PUMAs …
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Great piece. Man, the video was good too. It has been such an emotional year! I have put on weight, glued to my computer, and exhausted myself week after week, watching debates, and chatting online with Hillary supporters (staying up until 5 or 6 in the morning, many times). Those videos just bring it all back.
I sure have learned a lot, too. About politics, people, media and sexism.
Thanks, Sara - I appreciate that!
Oh, I hear ya. I have never watched so much Fox News before, well, ever, until a few months ago. It’s them or nothing - no WAY will I watch CNN or MSNBC.
And yes, I have learned a lot abt people, politics, sexism, and the media, too - mostly things I didn’t want to know, or believe, I’m afraid…
Thanks again, Sara!
I don’t believe that Bill or Hillary will privately, as in voting, vote for Obama. I think this because I believe Hillary does want to run again and the best way to get that chance in the near future is to keep Obama out. Even tho Hillary and McCain differ on many issues, she knows him and knows they could work toward a common cause, just have different ways of getting there. One thing’s for sure, if Obama gets in and things go sour, there probably won’t be another democractic president in our lifetime. And go sour, it will.
Obama has run three corrupt campaigns. 1st against Alice Palmer, (State Senate), then US Senate vs Ryan, and now for president against Hillary. These were ALL CORRUPT. I live in Illinois, I know.
This year,I will ask and record every polling place worker their name and ID. I will ask them if they have anything to do with ACORN. And I will ask for proof of my vote.
Anyone else have any ideas? Early voting bothers me because the familiarity of the Judges and voters. (My normal polling place knows me and most others.) Since I have not early voted, I don’t know who is running the show. But it is all volunteer.
I do not want a corrupt election bringing this fraud of a candiddate to office.
The system may be stretched but we can help, can’t we?
Look at the video of “we will not be silenced” and what happened in Texas. This should be a wake up call. It was the election workers that were the corruption. The video is their first hand account of what happened.
Thanks for this great essay–we still have a lot of work to do no matter who wins this election!
I always thought it was men that held us back.
But now that I have seen the treatment of Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin by their own gender I understand why women never get ahead.
It is because we are our own worst enemy! So many women are just jealous of another woman’s success that they are mean and spiteful b’s about it!
It is too bad because we will never make it to the highest positions in this land until we get over it!
two things:
1. The Chicago political machine has attempted to take over the Democratic party since Kennedy (if not before
2. The internal war of the Democratic party to remove anything and everything Clinton and the DLC from its ranks that was taken to the people this cycle
Two birds - one stone.
Hillary has no choice if she wants to succeed politically and remain in the Senate as a voice for health care, a voice for women’s and children’s rights, a voice for the poor and working class Americans who the Republicans have adopted because they are the unwanted children and all the rest - her only hope is to remain in the graces of the party that puts a D behind her name. No different than the threats and intimidateion put on those superdelegates who are up for reelection or will be in the near future. She would never survive as an IND and would wind up in the trash heap with Lieberman if she dared to turn on the party that she and Bill created (they are afterall, the favored “corporate” Democrats).
And Obama nailed her coffin shut just as neatly as he nailed that of Alice Palmer, his “typical” white grandmother and his mother and idealized his father and now is doing to Sarah Palin. Sometimes paybacks are the bitch!