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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;What Sarah Palin Taught Us&#8221; and Hillary 2012</title>
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		<title>By: BettAZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>BettAZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary has to play the part of supporting Obama if she wants to run for POTUS next time.Yes, it&#039;s hard to watch her &quot;stumping&quot; for Obama, but what other choice does she have to survive in this current INSANE political climate!
Believe me, when Bill and Hillary are sipping a glass of wine(NOT kool-aid) over dinner, they are NOT praising the zero.John McCain and Hillary are friends.He&#039;s one of the few who stuck up for her,and never trashed her.He will get their votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary has to play the part of supporting Obama if she wants to run for POTUS next time.Yes, it&#8217;s hard to watch her &#8220;stumping&#8221; for Obama, but what other choice does she have to survive in this current INSANE political climate!<br />
Believe me, when Bill and Hillary are sipping a glass of wine(NOT kool-aid) over dinner, they are NOT praising the zero.John McCain and Hillary are friends.He&#8217;s one of the few who stuck up for her,and never trashed her.He will get their votes.</p>
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		<title>By: cassie</title>
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		<dc:creator>cassie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>two things: 


1. The Chicago political machine has attempted to take over the Democratic party since Kennedy (if not before 

2. The internal war of the Democratic party to remove anything and everything Clinton and the DLC from its ranks that was taken to the people this cycle

Two birds - one stone. 

Hillary has no choice if she wants to succeed politically and remain in the Senate as a voice for health care, a voice for women&#039;s and children&#039;s rights, a voice for the poor and working class Americans who the Republicans have adopted because they are the unwanted children and all the rest - her only hope is to remain in the graces of the party that puts a D behind her name. No different than the threats and intimidateion put on those superdelegates who are up for reelection or will be in the near future. She would never survive as an IND and would wind up in the trash heap with Lieberman if she dared to turn on the party that she and Bill created (they are afterall, the favored &quot;corporate&quot; Democrats). 

And Obama nailed her coffin shut just as neatly as he nailed that of Alice Palmer, his &quot;typical&quot; white grandmother and his mother and idealized his father  and now is doing to Sarah Palin. Sometimes paybacks are the bitch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>two things: </p>
<p>1. The Chicago political machine has attempted to take over the Democratic party since Kennedy (if not before </p>
<p>2. The internal war of the Democratic party to remove anything and everything Clinton and the DLC from its ranks that was taken to the people this cycle</p>
<p>Two birds &#8211; one stone. </p>
<p>Hillary has no choice if she wants to succeed politically and remain in the Senate as a voice for health care, a voice for women&#8217;s and children&#8217;s rights, a voice for the poor and working class Americans who the Republicans have adopted because they are the unwanted children and all the rest &#8211; her only hope is to remain in the graces of the party that puts a D behind her name. No different than the threats and intimidateion put on those superdelegates who are up for reelection or will be in the near future. She would never survive as an IND and would wind up in the trash heap with Lieberman if she dared to turn on the party that she and Bill created (they are afterall, the favored &#8220;corporate&#8221; Democrats). </p>
<p>And Obama nailed her coffin shut just as neatly as he nailed that of Alice Palmer, his &#8220;typical&#8221; white grandmother and his mother and idealized his father  and now is doing to Sarah Palin. Sometimes paybacks are the bitch!</p>
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		<title>By: S. Bird</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/28/what-sarah-palin-taught-us-and-hillary-2012/#comment-969065</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ME, TOO!  I have voted the democratic ticket my entire life (40 years of voting) and this year I refuse to vote for ANY democrats!  I am so ashamed of being a part of the democratic party this year!

Who wants to be a part of the party that cheated to get somebody elected?  Who wants to be a part of the party who has been so filthy and vicious towards women?

Not one democrat will get my vote!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ME, TOO!  I have voted the democratic ticket my entire life (40 years of voting) and this year I refuse to vote for ANY democrats!  I am so ashamed of being a part of the democratic party this year!</p>
<p>Who wants to be a part of the party that cheated to get somebody elected?  Who wants to be a part of the party who has been so filthy and vicious towards women?</p>
<p>Not one democrat will get my vote!</p>
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		<title>By: S. Bird</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/28/what-sarah-palin-taught-us-and-hillary-2012/#comment-969036</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought it was men that held us back.

But now that I have seen the treatment of Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin by their own gender I understand why women never get ahead.

It is because we are our own worst enemy!  So many women are just jealous of another woman&#039;s success that they are mean and spiteful b&#039;s about it!

It is too bad because we will never make it to the highest positions in this land until we get over it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought it was men that held us back.</p>
<p>But now that I have seen the treatment of Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin by their own gender I understand why women never get ahead.</p>
<p>It is because we are our own worst enemy!  So many women are just jealous of another woman&#8217;s success that they are mean and spiteful b&#8217;s about it!</p>
<p>It is too bad because we will never make it to the highest positions in this land until we get over it!</p>
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		<title>By: JozefAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JozefAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you&#039;ve got until 2012 to consider Hillary&#039;s re-election bid, so I wouldn&#039;t be too concerned with that.  Bear in mind, however, that if Obama does win next week and turns out to be the disaster that WE all know he is, Hillary will have to weigh her options whether to run for re-election or run against Obama.  Since 1968, we haven&#039;t had a single seated and still-eligible President who has decided to run for re-election, regardless of his popularity, or lack thereof.  (The last President to do so was LBJ and he quite literally waited until the last possible moment to withdraw from consideration.  He did have a number of health issues that helped him decide against running, in addition to the mire that was Vietnam.)
As to a McCain victory next week and Obama running in 2012, I don&#039;t see it happening.  My first reason: Going back to the birth of the GOP in 1854, and its first head-to-head competition against the Democratic Party, there have been exactly TWO Democrats who were nominated by the Party more than once and lost every time.  First, there was William J Bryan who ran against William McKinley TWICE (1896, 1900) and lost both times, then came back in 1908 and lost to William Howard Taft.  Then, there was Adlai E Stevenson who went up against Eisenhower TWICE (1952, 1956) and lost both times.
My second (probably more important) reason:  Obama has a Senate seat that he will have to defend in 2010 (again, this presumes he loses next week, &lt;em&gt;inshallah&lt;/em&gt;*) and he will have a much tougher fight doing so since ANY opponent (Democrat OR Republican) can point out how little time Obama spent serving AS a Senator during his first term, a claim that almost no politician wants to have to explain.  Obama cannot successfully pull the &quot;historic nature&quot; ploy since that doesn&#039;t (or shouldn&#039;t) mean diddily to serving the people of Illinois (a US Senator is supposed to weigh his constituents&#039; needs against the needs of the whole country; a President&#039;s constituents ARE the whole country--he&#039;s not supposed to show favoritism).  Then, Obama would be in a rough position since the next Presidential campaign would officially begin a year after he would take his oath of office as a Senator--he would take that oath on Jan 4, 2011 (possibly Jan 5) while the 2012 Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary--unless something changes in the meantime--would take place by Jan 15, 2012.  For him to be involved with EITHER would require a formal decision by November 2011, at the latest (unless he just wants to hope his &quot;campaign&quot; will start itself).  I would relish Obama swearing to the people of Illinois that he would not run for President in 2012 (something he&#039;d almost certainly be forced to do if he really expects to continue as Senator), since he&#039;d find himself in the same place Hillary was in 2004 (she&#039;d promised New Yorkers she wouldn&#039;t run for President if elected their Senator in 2000--she kept her word).  Hillary has years to decide what her next step will be; Obama, if he loses next week (&lt;em&gt;inshallah&lt;/em&gt;*), has no more than six months to decide his next step.

*I apologize for the Arabic invocation (meaning &quot;by the will of God&quot; or &quot;God willing&quot;), but I thought it wryly amusing to use it.  (Just for the record, while it&#039;s more commonly thought of as a Muslim phrase, it&#039;s common among Arab Christians as well, and is the source of the Spanish exclamation, &lt;em&gt;¡ojalá!, &lt;/em&gt;meaning &quot;I hope that&quot; or &quot;how I hope&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you&#8217;ve got until 2012 to consider Hillary&#8217;s re-election bid, so I wouldn&#8217;t be too concerned with that.  Bear in mind, however, that if Obama does win next week and turns out to be the disaster that WE all know he is, Hillary will have to weigh her options whether to run for re-election or run against Obama.  Since 1968, we haven&#8217;t had a single seated and still-eligible President who has decided to run for re-election, regardless of his popularity, or lack thereof.  (The last President to do so was LBJ and he quite literally waited until the last possible moment to withdraw from consideration.  He did have a number of health issues that helped him decide against running, in addition to the mire that was Vietnam.)<br />
As to a McCain victory next week and Obama running in 2012, I don&#8217;t see it happening.  My first reason: Going back to the birth of the GOP in 1854, and its first head-to-head competition against the Democratic Party, there have been exactly TWO Democrats who were nominated by the Party more than once and lost every time.  First, there was William J Bryan who ran against William McKinley TWICE (1896, 1900) and lost both times, then came back in 1908 and lost to William Howard Taft.  Then, there was Adlai E Stevenson who went up against Eisenhower TWICE (1952, 1956) and lost both times.<br />
My second (probably more important) reason:  Obama has a Senate seat that he will have to defend in 2010 (again, this presumes he loses next week, <em>inshallah</em>*) and he will have a much tougher fight doing so since ANY opponent (Democrat OR Republican) can point out how little time Obama spent serving AS a Senator during his first term, a claim that almost no politician wants to have to explain.  Obama cannot successfully pull the &#8220;historic nature&#8221; ploy since that doesn&#8217;t (or shouldn&#8217;t) mean diddily to serving the people of Illinois (a US Senator is supposed to weigh his constituents&#8217; needs against the needs of the whole country; a President&#8217;s constituents ARE the whole country&#8211;he&#8217;s not supposed to show favoritism).  Then, Obama would be in a rough position since the next Presidential campaign would officially begin a year after he would take his oath of office as a Senator&#8211;he would take that oath on Jan 4, 2011 (possibly Jan 5) while the 2012 Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary&#8211;unless something changes in the meantime&#8211;would take place by Jan 15, 2012.  For him to be involved with EITHER would require a formal decision by November 2011, at the latest (unless he just wants to hope his &#8220;campaign&#8221; will start itself).  I would relish Obama swearing to the people of Illinois that he would not run for President in 2012 (something he&#8217;d almost certainly be forced to do if he really expects to continue as Senator), since he&#8217;d find himself in the same place Hillary was in 2004 (she&#8217;d promised New Yorkers she wouldn&#8217;t run for President if elected their Senator in 2000&#8211;she kept her word).  Hillary has years to decide what her next step will be; Obama, if he loses next week (<em>inshallah</em>*), has no more than six months to decide his next step.</p>
<p>*I apologize for the Arabic invocation (meaning &#8220;by the will of God&#8221; or &#8220;God willing&#8221;), but I thought it wryly amusing to use it.  (Just for the record, while it&#8217;s more commonly thought of as a Muslim phrase, it&#8217;s common among Arab Christians as well, and is the source of the Spanish exclamation, <em>¡ojalá!, </em>meaning &#8220;I hope that&#8221; or &#8220;how I hope&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tricia Spiegel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tricia Spiegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this great essay--we still have a lot of work to do no matter who wins this election!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this great essay&#8211;we still have a lot of work to do no matter who wins this election!</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And do you really think Hillary would ever be allowed to run again if she didn&#039;t toe the line? 

She is doing what she HAS TO DO to once again have the chance to be our leader. I feel she has had to suffer through the last few months just as we have, only she is being held to a much higher standard. I know i would never pass the test, my mouth would get away from me and i would speak my mind. The very fact that she can actually say what she is being forced to say without throwing up shows me an inner strength I do not have. It actually makes me respect her. 

When Obama loses she will be free to speak her own words again. I pray for that day. My respect for her and my choice of Hillary as ,y chosen leader have not wained. I understand that it is pretty much along the lines of McCain enduring torture to make it through the Hanoi Hilton experience he went through...only to come home stronger and with a special kind of love of country that walking through a fire gives you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And do you really think Hillary would ever be allowed to run again if she didn&#8217;t toe the line? </p>
<p>She is doing what she HAS TO DO to once again have the chance to be our leader. I feel she has had to suffer through the last few months just as we have, only she is being held to a much higher standard. I know i would never pass the test, my mouth would get away from me and i would speak my mind. The very fact that she can actually say what she is being forced to say without throwing up shows me an inner strength I do not have. It actually makes me respect her. </p>
<p>When Obama loses she will be free to speak her own words again. I pray for that day. My respect for her and my choice of Hillary as ,y chosen leader have not wained. I understand that it is pretty much along the lines of McCain enduring torture to make it through the Hanoi Hilton experience he went through&#8230;only to come home stronger and with a special kind of love of country that walking through a fire gives you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember when Al Gore was running and the far left bunch decided they were going to vote for Nader because Gore was as bad as Bush?  Now they expect us moderates to vote for Obama?  Yeah right.

Bill Clinton was the best Democrat since Johnson or maybe FDR.   The &quot;third-way&quot; or &quot;DLC&quot; democrat is no joke or &quot;Bush-Cheney Lite&quot; as Obama called it.  It is the right course correction for Johnson&#039;s Great Society - replacing welfare with work and improving education, health care, and infrastructure.  And in terms of foreign policy, creating potential allies, but taking a hard line against rogue states like Iraq and Bosnia.  It is the only path that makes sense.  Gore would have continued this path and so would Hillary.

But now all have been thrown under the bus in the far-left coup.  Yes, they&#039;re campaigning for Obama but they do have some obligations to the party, as I&#039;m sure the party has helped them in the past.  I think its said but don&#039;t hold it against them enough to lose sight of the fact that they&#039;re the ones who need to be supported.

The real fight is going to happen in the next primary season and both you and I need to be there to take back the party.  The current leadership - Pelosi, Reid, etc - is a joke and has to go.  Michael Moore is funny but you don&#039;t let him run the country but that&#039;s where we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember when Al Gore was running and the far left bunch decided they were going to vote for Nader because Gore was as bad as Bush?  Now they expect us moderates to vote for Obama?  Yeah right.</p>
<p>Bill Clinton was the best Democrat since Johnson or maybe FDR.   The &#8220;third-way&#8221; or &#8220;DLC&#8221; democrat is no joke or &#8220;Bush-Cheney Lite&#8221; as Obama called it.  It is the right course correction for Johnson&#8217;s Great Society &#8211; replacing welfare with work and improving education, health care, and infrastructure.  And in terms of foreign policy, creating potential allies, but taking a hard line against rogue states like Iraq and Bosnia.  It is the only path that makes sense.  Gore would have continued this path and so would Hillary.</p>
<p>But now all have been thrown under the bus in the far-left coup.  Yes, they&#8217;re campaigning for Obama but they do have some obligations to the party, as I&#8217;m sure the party has helped them in the past.  I think its said but don&#8217;t hold it against them enough to lose sight of the fact that they&#8217;re the ones who need to be supported.</p>
<p>The real fight is going to happen in the next primary season and both you and I need to be there to take back the party.  The current leadership &#8211; Pelosi, Reid, etc &#8211; is a joke and has to go.  Michael Moore is funny but you don&#8217;t let him run the country but that&#8217;s where we are.</p>
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		<title>By: Michele (not the nasty one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele (not the nasty one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an independent voter who followed the Democratic primary with my eye on Hillary, I was not a big Hillary supporter.  That being said, I stand with all the Hillary supporters, the PUMA&#039;s, the Democrats that refuse to tow the party line.  I have so much respect for you.  I can see the logic in the belief that Hillary doesn&#039;t have a choice in her support of Obama.  That she is saving her political future.  I can see it, but I don&#039;t buy it.  I mean, after all the crap the DNC put her (and her supporters) through, all the insinuations by the Obama camp that she and Bill were racists and the fact that this is not democracy at work; I find it hard to believe that she and Bill are willing to tow the party line for Obama.  

Can you imagine the movement she would create, right now, if she were to back off of her support of Obama, and to back McCain.  Of course, not because she backs McCains policies but because she sees that, at this time in our nation, it is for the good of the country.  I mean are we all nuts for harboring all these misgivings about Obama?

What if she and Bill were to go to Obama and advise him to address these issues that have been coming out in the media recently?  Naturally, we know he wouldn&#039;t do that.  So what if Hillary and Bill Clinton were to do some soul searching and come to the conclusion that they can no longer lend their support to this person.  They would have to issue a press release about this decision.  They could explain their frustrations with Obama, their concerns about where his administration would take this country and they could remark on the number of former Hillary supporters who are putting country first before party loyalty.  They could remark that these are not people who are voting for McCain (or Nader or any others) because they refuse to vote for a black candidate.  These are people who would have gladly voted for a black DEMOCRATIC candidate, had that candidate earned their vote and respect.

Hillary could then list all the reasons why people have been alienated by him (caucus frauds, new direction of the Democratic Party, Florida and Michigan shenanigans, all the false attacks of &quot;racism&quot; in his campaign, the sexism in the media that was not addressed by Obama or the DNC against Senator Clinton in the primaries and now against Governor Palin in the general election).  And now there are all the unanswered questions about his campaign fundraising, what his true beliefs are on important issues concerning future of the United States, and the fact that he is where he is because the media has given him a pass; in other words he has not been vetted as she, Senator McCain and Governor Palin have been.  Even Biden gets a pass as he can say any ridiculous thing he wants and everyone just laughs it off, &quot;oh, that&#039;s just Joe being Joe!&quot;.

Oh, okay, I just woke up from my daydream!  But I still can&#039;t help but think that if Hillary were to walk away from the Democratic Party (as it is now), she would be helping to lead this country away from this precipice we find ourselves on just seven days away from election day.  I think she would bring many people with her and after election day, when John McCain has been declared the winner and our country is able to back away from this dangerous precipice; Hillary and Bill and all the other true Democrats can go about the business of rebuilding the Democratic party.  I can&#039;t help but think that they would have the respect, not just of Democrats and those independent Hillary supporters, but also of all Americans who saw this election as one of the most important elections in our generation.  Important not just because we would either be electing a black president or a female vice president (nothing wrong with either idea!), but because in this election, more so than any other in our time, the future of country is at stake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an independent voter who followed the Democratic primary with my eye on Hillary, I was not a big Hillary supporter.  That being said, I stand with all the Hillary supporters, the PUMA&#8217;s, the Democrats that refuse to tow the party line.  I have so much respect for you.  I can see the logic in the belief that Hillary doesn&#8217;t have a choice in her support of Obama.  That she is saving her political future.  I can see it, but I don&#8217;t buy it.  I mean, after all the crap the DNC put her (and her supporters) through, all the insinuations by the Obama camp that she and Bill were racists and the fact that this is not democracy at work; I find it hard to believe that she and Bill are willing to tow the party line for Obama.  </p>
<p>Can you imagine the movement she would create, right now, if she were to back off of her support of Obama, and to back McCain.  Of course, not because she backs McCains policies but because she sees that, at this time in our nation, it is for the good of the country.  I mean are we all nuts for harboring all these misgivings about Obama?</p>
<p>What if she and Bill were to go to Obama and advise him to address these issues that have been coming out in the media recently?  Naturally, we know he wouldn&#8217;t do that.  So what if Hillary and Bill Clinton were to do some soul searching and come to the conclusion that they can no longer lend their support to this person.  They would have to issue a press release about this decision.  They could explain their frustrations with Obama, their concerns about where his administration would take this country and they could remark on the number of former Hillary supporters who are putting country first before party loyalty.  They could remark that these are not people who are voting for McCain (or Nader or any others) because they refuse to vote for a black candidate.  These are people who would have gladly voted for a black DEMOCRATIC candidate, had that candidate earned their vote and respect.</p>
<p>Hillary could then list all the reasons why people have been alienated by him (caucus frauds, new direction of the Democratic Party, Florida and Michigan shenanigans, all the false attacks of &#8220;racism&#8221; in his campaign, the sexism in the media that was not addressed by Obama or the DNC against Senator Clinton in the primaries and now against Governor Palin in the general election).  And now there are all the unanswered questions about his campaign fundraising, what his true beliefs are on important issues concerning future of the United States, and the fact that he is where he is because the media has given him a pass; in other words he has not been vetted as she, Senator McCain and Governor Palin have been.  Even Biden gets a pass as he can say any ridiculous thing he wants and everyone just laughs it off, &#8220;oh, that&#8217;s just Joe being Joe!&#8221;.</p>
<p>Oh, okay, I just woke up from my daydream!  But I still can&#8217;t help but think that if Hillary were to walk away from the Democratic Party (as it is now), she would be helping to lead this country away from this precipice we find ourselves on just seven days away from election day.  I think she would bring many people with her and after election day, when John McCain has been declared the winner and our country is able to back away from this dangerous precipice; Hillary and Bill and all the other true Democrats can go about the business of rebuilding the Democratic party.  I can&#8217;t help but think that they would have the respect, not just of Democrats and those independent Hillary supporters, but also of all Americans who saw this election as one of the most important elections in our generation.  Important not just because we would either be electing a black president or a female vice president (nothing wrong with either idea!), but because in this election, more so than any other in our time, the future of country is at stake.</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama has run three corrupt campaigns. 1st against Alice Palmer, (State Senate), then US Senate vs  Ryan, and now for president against Hillary. These were ALL CORRUPT. I live in Illinois, I know.

This year,I will ask and record every polling place worker their name and ID. I will ask them if they have anything to do with ACORN. And I will ask for proof of my vote.

Anyone else have any ideas? Early voting bothers me because the familiarity of the Judges and voters. (My normal polling place knows me and most others.) Since I have not early voted, I don&#039;t know who is running the show. But it is all volunteer.

I do not want a corrupt election bringing this fraud of a candiddate to office.

The system may be stretched but we can help, can&#039;t we?

Look at the video of &quot;we will not be silenced&quot; and what happened in Texas. This should be a wake up call. It was the election workers that were the corruption. The video is their first hand account of what happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has run three corrupt campaigns. 1st against Alice Palmer, (State Senate), then US Senate vs  Ryan, and now for president against Hillary. These were ALL CORRUPT. I live in Illinois, I know.</p>
<p>This year,I will ask and record every polling place worker their name and ID. I will ask them if they have anything to do with ACORN. And I will ask for proof of my vote.</p>
<p>Anyone else have any ideas? Early voting bothers me because the familiarity of the Judges and voters. (My normal polling place knows me and most others.) Since I have not early voted, I don&#8217;t know who is running the show. But it is all volunteer.</p>
<p>I do not want a corrupt election bringing this fraud of a candiddate to office.</p>
<p>The system may be stretched but we can help, can&#8217;t we?</p>
<p>Look at the video of &#8220;we will not be silenced&#8221; and what happened in Texas. This should be a wake up call. It was the election workers that were the corruption. The video is their first hand account of what happened.</p>
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		<title>By: JiffyJML</title>
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		<dc:creator>JiffyJML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question. Last night I SCOURED the NOW site looking for any indication that they&#039;d made a statement about the Palin figurine hanging in effigy in West Hollywood. I thought, well, they don&#039;t support Governor Palin but surely THIS horrendous act of misogyny deserves a good ol&#039; fashioned repudiation or statement from NOW, right?

No. Nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question. Last night I SCOURED the NOW site looking for any indication that they&#8217;d made a statement about the Palin figurine hanging in effigy in West Hollywood. I thought, well, they don&#8217;t support Governor Palin but surely THIS horrendous act of misogyny deserves a good ol&#8217; fashioned repudiation or statement from NOW, right?</p>
<p>No. Nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is true enough.

Politics is a dirty business.  We do not know what is happening behind the scenes.  Hillary went through hell -- it is unfair to judge her.   She is doing what she has to do to stay viable and fight for us in the future.  I may not like it, but there it is.

It is easy for people to blog anonymously and condemn others who are out there publicly everyday on the firing line.  I live in a glass house and will not throw stones. 

She did not create this situation.  She is trying to make the best of a bad one.  She is a Truman Democrat through and through.  She never promised she would leave the party or become a Republican.  She promised to support her party&#039;s nominee.  It is obvious that the Clintons always campaign for the party -- not for him if you listen carefully to what they say.

My enmity is reserved for Obama, Axelrod and their filthy campaign tactics, the DNC who stabbed her in the back daily and the MSM, who excoriated her and did everything they could to kill her candidacy.

Nobody here can imagine what that woman went through and while I am unhappy with her actions, I am inclined to give her a break.  I have never seen a politician shown the courage and fortitude she did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is true enough.</p>
<p>Politics is a dirty business.  We do not know what is happening behind the scenes.  Hillary went through hell &#8212; it is unfair to judge her.   She is doing what she has to do to stay viable and fight for us in the future.  I may not like it, but there it is.</p>
<p>It is easy for people to blog anonymously and condemn others who are out there publicly everyday on the firing line.  I live in a glass house and will not throw stones. </p>
<p>She did not create this situation.  She is trying to make the best of a bad one.  She is a Truman Democrat through and through.  She never promised she would leave the party or become a Republican.  She promised to support her party&#8217;s nominee.  It is obvious that the Clintons always campaign for the party &#8212; not for him if you listen carefully to what they say.</p>
<p>My enmity is reserved for Obama, Axelrod and their filthy campaign tactics, the DNC who stabbed her in the back daily and the MSM, who excoriated her and did everything they could to kill her candidacy.</p>
<p>Nobody here can imagine what that woman went through and while I am unhappy with her actions, I am inclined to give her a break.  I have never seen a politician shown the courage and fortitude she did.</p>
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		<title>By: postmaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>postmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe that Bill or Hillary will privately, as in voting, vote for Obama.  I think this because I believe Hillary does want to run again and the best way to get that chance in the near future is to keep Obama out. Even tho Hillary and McCain differ on many issues, she knows him and knows they could work toward a common cause, just have different ways of getting there.  One thing&#039;s for sure, if Obama gets in and things go sour, there probably won&#039;t be another democractic president in our lifetime.  And go sour, it will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe that Bill or Hillary will privately, as in voting, vote for Obama.  I think this because I believe Hillary does want to run again and the best way to get that chance in the near future is to keep Obama out. Even tho Hillary and McCain differ on many issues, she knows him and knows they could work toward a common cause, just have different ways of getting there.  One thing&#8217;s for sure, if Obama gets in and things go sour, there probably won&#8217;t be another democractic president in our lifetime.  And go sour, it will.</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I believe this too. Bill, Hillary and Chelsea will do what&#039;s right in private.

So will a lot of other Dems. Diane Feinstein comes to mind.

Still, I understand how disappointed people are. Especially because they seem to be doing more than their fair share. That I don&#039;t like. If 0bama and his supporters revile the Clintons so much, why on earth do they need their support? Especially so enthusiastically?

Just another thing that exposes Botheads for the scumbag hypocrites that they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I believe this too. Bill, Hillary and Chelsea will do what&#8217;s right in private.</p>
<p>So will a lot of other Dems. Diane Feinstein comes to mind.</p>
<p>Still, I understand how disappointed people are. Especially because they seem to be doing more than their fair share. That I don&#8217;t like. If 0bama and his supporters revile the Clintons so much, why on earth do they need their support? Especially so enthusiastically?</p>
<p>Just another thing that exposes Botheads for the scumbag hypocrites that they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Sara - I appreciate that!

Oh, I hear ya.  I have never watched so much Fox News before, well, ever, until a few months ago. It&#039;s them or nothing - no WAY will I watch CNN or MSNBC. 

And yes, I have learned a lot abt people, politics, sexism, and the media, too - mostly things I didn&#039;t want to know, or believe, I&#039;m afraid...

Thanks again, Sara!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Sara &#8211; I appreciate that!</p>
<p>Oh, I hear ya.  I have never watched so much Fox News before, well, ever, until a few months ago. It&#8217;s them or nothing &#8211; no WAY will I watch CNN or MSNBC. </p>
<p>And yes, I have learned a lot abt people, politics, sexism, and the media, too &#8211; mostly things I didn&#8217;t want to know, or believe, I&#8217;m afraid&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks again, Sara!</p>
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