MEMO to Voters in States Producing and Relying On Coal: Obama Intends to Bankrupt Your Businesses and Your Industries
By Truthteller on November 2, 2008 at 1:22 PM in Arrogance, Barack Obama, Economy, Energy Policy, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Montana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, Washington state, West Virginia, White Working Class
Wyoming, West Virginia, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Texas, Montana, Illinois, Virginia, North Dakota, Colorado, Indiana, New Mexico, Utah, Ohio, Alabama and Arizona: these coal producing states will be adversely affected by Barack Obama’s energy policy.
Imagine mines closing, factories closing, jobs lost, towns abandoned, small businesses failing, pensions lost, wages dropping and widespread economic depression in states that rely on coal mining and processing. This is what Obama’s cap and trade system will engender in states such as WV, PA, MT, VA, ND, CO, IN, NM, OH and AZ. Just listen to this audio of Obama discussing how he will bankrupt factories and businesses that rely on power generated from coal when he was interviewed by the San Francisco Chronicle in January 2008:
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Here is the transcript:
Let me sort of describe my overall policy.
What I’ve said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else’s out there.
I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.
That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.
The only thing I’ve said with respect to coal, I haven’t been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
It’s just that it will bankrupt them.“
Does Obama realize the number of jobs lost when he arrogantly states that plants will be bankrupted under his energy policy? Does he not understand the number of lives affected?
The Ohio River Basin is one area of the country that will be decimated as a result of Obama’s desire to bankrupt plants relying on coal.
And while the economy of the Ohio River Valley is decimated, the following regions of the country will witness no job growth, as the following proposed plants will never be built:
Permits for these proposed plants have already been cancelled:
The West will also be adversely affected by Obama’s reckless energy policy:
Bankrupting an entire industry will destroy the lives of Americans across the country. Both coal produces and consumers will have to fire employees, and this will create widespread job loss and increased economic recession.
More discussion on Obama’s desire to bankrupt coal producers and consumers is available at Memeorandum.
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By Sarah Palin (Release date: November 17. 2009)
Spread the wealth, bankrupting businesses. Interesting economic policies, barack.
Bankrupting the Coal Industry isn’t a bad decision by Obiteme…It’s a calculated decision…There is a PLAYBOOK for overturning a Capitalistic Gov. and replacing it with a Socialist / Marxist Gov. ..Demoralize, Devaluate and Deter…Step one has already been completed…It was put into motion a generation ago and was achieved through our higher education system, with Marxist educaters (brainwashers)…Step two is coming…Now it is time to send the country spiraling into an economic depression…”Even the playing field” or simply put, make the large majority citizens completely reliant on the government in order to survive…This is the only way the “New Change” gov. is able to stay in power or so they think…Step three?…”Deter”…
Well I’ll let you folks use your imagination on that one, but it ain’t pretty and we have already been seeing small snippets of things to come if BaCrack Obutthole gets elected…VOTE!!!!!!
Exactly. It is the Cloward-Piven Strategy.
Vote this Marxist Messiah out of office.
Read this!
http://sadimtouch.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/cloward-piven-strategy-the-left-and-obamas-attempts-to-destroy-america/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
OBAMA VOWS TO CREATE CIVILIAN DEFENSE
Sorry to be so frank, but we need our beloved readers to stay on topic. Use our open threads, or even the conference call thread, for unrelated stories. Thank you so much. But this IS interesting, and I am going to send this to all of our writers to see if someone wishes to write it up.
understood, and thanks for tactful reminder.
Someone needs to step up and run this vid in
PA, OH, CO, NM, IN, VA, WA
COME ON SPREAD A BIT OF YOUR WEALTH, to save the rest.
Arizona and Colorado too, they also are using coal.
Amazing this comes out with only two days to go before the election — maybe it can still make a difference if hammered home in the states thus affected.
Glad the GOP finally turned this up.
Over 50% of the electicity produced in the United States comes from coal fired plants.
What is he thinking?
My electric bill is horrendous as it is.
He’ll not only bankrupt the coal plants.
He’ll bankrupt ME!
That’s why you’re going to need another one of those Jimmy Carter brand sweaters.
Obama will hand out candles and call it “good.” And while we’re sharing the misery, we can light additional candles to His generosity, for surely we have seen the error of our foolish, selfish ways and know Our Leader loves us.
These people our flatout nuts! They also give me the creeps. Obama’s latest line to counter to reporters saying Johnny Mac had the wind at his back was to say he [Obama] had a “righteous” wind blowing at his own back.
The man acts like a self-centered, 2-year old.
Wake up, America.
why do you think General Electric has been trying to get him elected?
“What is he thinking?”
“Silly notions” to be sure.
Thank you truthteller.
I wish Obama held even an ounce of truthfulness as a virtue.
Everyone, please send the link to this post everywhere you can.
Is it just me but doesn’t Obama have a hit list of what he wants to do from San Francisco?
Rural PA are bitter and cling to their guns and relgisions
Wants to Bankrupt the Coal Industry in states that he needs to win
I am wondering what else is going to come out….
P.S. http://www.newsmax.com asks the question where was Obama born?
Eliminating one of the major sources of energy in this nation makes us that much more dependendant upon oil and natural gas. See a trend there? Who are his major contributors? Who backs him? Why are any of us surprised?
You see, the man does actually talk about his policies. His words are everywhere.
The stunning thing is, the media (and those they have infected with the deaf, dumb & blind virus) don’t hear him.
To repeat a favorite cartoon that comes from I don’t remember where:
King Leonardo comes out on the balcony to address the throng below. They all yell, “Hooray King Leonardo, Hooray King Leonardo” until he quiets the crowd enough to issue the following proclamation:
To which the throng (insert MSM) yells, “Hooray King Leonardo, Hooray King Leonardo”!!!
In our case, those who have nothing shall get a check but it doesn’t matter. The point’s the same.
Yay King Obama!!!
They may have a check, but they won’t have electricity.
He wants to detroy the country and than give hands outs to us because we are so scared we vote for him again just like hamas
He wants the mideast oil folks to get even more control of America by crippling our ability to make our own energy (e.g., shutting down coal plants/production). this guy is dangerous to america. . .we must stop him.
McCain/Palin 2008
America must be saved!
These are fearsome times. Get out and vote.
Truthteller, you are on a roll with these breaking stories. I wish the McCain campaign had hired you months ago. But I’m glad we’ve got your talents here.
thanks for posting…this is another big one.
I had very little knowledge on many bi-products from coal, then, as I’ve learned more about them, how amazing what coal has been bringing into our daily life. I’m certain we will come up a better way using coal as energy source when burning them.
Meanwhile, here is a coal tree if you didn’t know anything about bi-products of coal.
http://www.coalcampmemories.com/coaltree.html
Nice visualization of coal biproducts.
The coal industry has been demonized for so long that people just take for granted that we would be better off if we got rid of it.
If we lost coal tomorrow, we would become a third world nation.
**** ALERT *****
The following post should be IMHO a main thread:
Today on Face The Nation….
Bob Schieffer cryptic message…Vote McCain
He talks about the rise of the Nazi’s though the ballot box & people who don’t vote as a way to be neutral. He said this is wrong to do. He mentioned a book, The Rise & Fall of the Third Reich & how the Nazi’s gained power through the ballot box. He said that if he lived back then he would have voted against the Nazi’s, other words you have to take a stand. Tells people to go out & vote no need to tell anyone who you are voting for. He is on vey good terms with McCain. Senator McCain has been on his program the second highest times.
Here is the link: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4563790n
wow. I have been so annoyed with Bob. This is exactly, exactly what needs to be said. Bravo Bob!!!
Max,
Thank you so much for posting this here — this is a fine catch!! I will pass along to the NoQ writers — I’d love to see this up here as well.
Nicely done.
And nicely done, Bob Schieffer.
Perhaps it was wishful thinking on my part, Max, but I heard that exactly the same way you did.
Thank you for this new topic!!!
Indeed, everyone, please help spread the word on this!!
We are 2 days to VICTORY!!
Let’s make it happen!!
Country First!!
Only a little OT~ sorry
I went to link this info on Greta wire, and it was already posted- Yay!
Now the off topic-
The thread post was this:
At the very least it seems this is a robocall created using Hillary’s previous praise of McCain.
damn that Mccain!!!!
i better ring Obama and tell him to make a robo-call of Biden promising a crisis if Obama is elected!
damn you all!
Love,
Bill
as i always said…
“In a revolution innocent people must die!”™
I even put it on a tee-shirt
its only $9.90 on sale right now until Nov. 4th
Love,
Bill
Democrats, I hope you have learned your lesson. You had better swing your party way to the right. This is the kind of Socialist-Marxist nightmare we have all feared.
Once we have dodged this Obama bullet and put McCain and Palin in the White house, lets work together to make sure WE NEVER GET THIS CLOSE TO A MARXIST OVERTHROW AGAIN.
We have seen the face of evil, and it is Obama.
Wake UP AMERICA.
And here we have an OUTRAGEOUS comment by an OBJECTIVE POLLSTER
King Zogby says for bloggers to shut up in his poll summary today:
“A special note to blogger friends: calm it down. Lay off the cable television noise and look at your baseball cards in your spare time. It is better for your (and everyone else’s) health.”
Such arrogance. Is this a man who is running a scientific polling operation? We are just supposed to accept HIS RECEIVED WISDOM. The writing is on the wall.
IT IS TIME TO TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY.
McCain/Palin
WHat do you expect from Zogby, Lebanese and founder of the Arab American Society. He may not be a Muslim, but he’s Arab and obviously favors Obama.
I sent the link to the McCain camp via the contact us page. Now I only hope they use it!
Spread it around folks!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/02/obama-well-bankrupt-any-new-coal-plants/comment-page-1/
My gosh, we must get this story out now. I already voted for McCain and I am a Democrat from North Dakota but this story plus the story that Bill Ayes wrote Obama’s book will turn this election around if we can get it out there. That story is up at fox news.
I sent the link to the World Coal Institute in London. Maybe they won’t be as terrified of King Obama and his Svengali, Joe Biden.
You can find them at http://www.worldcoal.org
Oh, awesome idea.
damn you all!!!!!!
how dare you try to foil my plans!!!!!11!1!!!
argh!!!!111!!!!1
Love,
Bill
me too!
Interesting idea, but it would make more sense to send it to every coal mine operator and coal fired power plant in the United States and ask them to post it in the locker rooms, elevators and mine shaft. Let them know that the Union sold them out when they supported Obama and that a vote for Obama is a vote to put them one step closer to the unemployment line. Email it to every corporate office, print up a copy and fax it to them too. Use the link that AM posted above and with permission will post here too and find companies in your area that make or use the products on the tree. Send them emails and faxes too. Less than 36 hours before the polls open, we have to get busy folks!
http://www.coalcampmemories.com/coaltree.html
Freaks. They could care less that Joe the Plumber has been investigated, but Obama’s illegal resident Auntie - well that’s a different story”
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/11/conyers_calls_for_investigatio.html
November 02, 2008
Conyers calls for investigation into leak of info about Obama’s aunt
This is the link to fox new that bill ayers wrote obama’s book for him.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/02/report-professor-paid-g-prove-ayers-wrote-obamas-autobiography/
Damn right I wrote it!
you think that clown can wright as good as me?
by the way, this book has been called the GREATEST memoir by an american writer…
GREATEST!
i am shit hot!!!!
woot woot!!!!1!1!1!!!
Love,
Bill
by the way,
If you don’t want to take my word for it…
try this guy:
http://ahillarybmccainamericafirst.com/?q=node/41
Love,
Bill
This is Obama’s agenda and the Dems in power want to do
NATIONIALIZE COAL, OIL and other Energy resources.
That’s called SOCIALISM !
I’m no friend of big coal but this insane.
The thing is we don’t have another low cost and clean energy source available that can replace coal.
The only thing the messiah can do to replace coal is import even more oil from OPEC and build a lot of oil fired power plants(which takes years BTW) or just let people freeze in the winter and get heat stroke in the summer.
This is also going to spell disaster for many states economically and jobs wise.
And oh for you consumers out there expect your electric bills to skyrocket. Its going to kill a lot of folks on fixed incomes too.
And if you’re a eco-warrior or loud mouthed enviro when this happens, it would be wise to hide lest a irate public uses you for a punching bag and torches your Mercedes SUV.
Drudge picked up the story so I’m sure Fox will pick it up this evening. I hope a 527 does a radio ad Monday and Tuesday in OH, PA and VA that where you get a lot of attention.
I am going to post this on every KY papers website of… http://www.kentucky.com is a good one to start with… we should find other states major newspaper’s websites and start posting!
I posted this in the open thread and I’m posting it here as well…
THIS JUST IN
This election is NOT over!
IDP (the most accurate pollster in the 2004 election)
Just released this:
IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll has McCain down by just 2 points today, he was down 4.5 yesterday.
The poll also shows undecided voters still at almost NINE points. Mac WILL get most of the undecided voters, even BHO’s camp thinks so.
Here’s the link:
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/series13.aspx?src=POLLTOPN
Now get off your computers and
GO TO WORK FOR JOHN MCCAIN AND SARAH PALIN!!
Volunteer HERE:
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/StateContact.htm
Even if you live in a Blue state you can go to the McCain office and call people in PA, OH and the rest of the swing states!
Let’s work together and get this done - If for no other reason, just to see the look on Keith Olberman’s face when McCain / Palin wins the White House
^^^
—– ignore him!
-=rubs hands with glee at the thought of getting into the white house=-
Love,
Bill
Timothy McVeigh was Ayers illegitimate son.
And I have the BC to prove it…
McCain and Palin have made energy independence one of their big goals. CLEAN COAL is one. I have one point to make about this….what is worse….some emissions from coal or getting our main source of energy from terroist, communist, socialist countries?? I truly believe McCain and Palin in the WH will aggressively pursue renewable/energy independence and move swiftly to success.
Of course they will.
Your comment reminds me of the fact that the media and some online have tried to say McCain has no central message and has not been able to communicate his ideas.
However, I can state clearly that he will
.Not raise taxes in a recession
.Apply a spending freeze for 1 year
.Reevalute and cut all unnecessary programs
.Veto any pork bills (with his pok cutting knife)
.Will make famous the names of the greedy spenders
.Will keep this country safe
.Will end the Iraq war in victory
His running mate will:
.Help in reforming the Federal Government ( especially in terms of spending)
.Will move us to ENERGY INDEPENDENCE
.Will advocate for special needs individuals and all families
On Obma’s side
He will:
.Provide a tax cut for 95% of Americans (which is a lie)
That’s it, that’s all I know he will do, according to his well messaged campaign. (Of course this is leaving out hoping and changing because those are not plans, but abstract ideas.)
Consider that I have spent the majority of my time researching Obama and not McCain while the money and media Obama drum beat has sounded glaringly in my ears, how is it that I know mcCain’s message better?
When they say McCain has not been able to convey his agenda, what they really mean is THEY WON’T convey it.
OT: http://sandbox.blog-city.com/khalidi_of_the_plo.htm
Proof Khalidi worked for the PLO
The race tightened again Sunday as independents who’d been leaning to Obama shifted to McCain to leave that key group a toss-up. McCain also pulled even in the Midwest, moved back into the lead with men, padded his gains among Protestants and Catholics, and is favored for the first time by high school graduates.
Obama 46.7%
McCain 44.6%
Undecided 8.7%
UNDECIDEDS WILL BREAK 4 to 1 FOR MCCAIN, JUST LIKE THEY DID FOR HILLARY
http://pumapac.org/
I think the undecided block is larger than that. Plus there is a soft block of potential shifters. Keep in mint though, all of this is based on the assumption that both sides will meet turnout projections equally. Now why is it I think the turnout projection for McCain will be easier to meet than the projection for Obama?
I called the Ohio GOP and PA GOP an hour ago about the tape, and now in Ohio, SARAH JUST MENTIONED THE TAPE..U GO GIRL!!!
Sarracuda yes! Excellent!!
Yep, the lady on the other end said “Oh My thank you so much, how can we repay you for this” and I said “Just get John and Sarah into the White House, that’s all I want” and BAM an hour later, she talks about the tape, she didn’t mention where she heard the tape but I told them drudgereport.com so I hope that people in Ohio, PA, and Virginia hear this tape, also Colorado. Obama’s OWN words are gonna bring him down!!
Oh yea. I love it when the ‘Cuda goes “rogue”. Give ‘em hell, Sarah!!!
OH WOW, way kool.
This is why I’m a centrist Democrat, not a crazy koskid socialist and solidly for McCain. Obama has just said he’s going to bankrupt the coal industry. Thanks to this statement, the financial value of every coal plant in the country just became zero, or maybe negative due to the economic costs to scrap it. No utility with any significant amount of coal will be able to get financing, either at a a bank or in the stock market, as people don’t loan money to worthless companies. Every worker in the coal industry just saw his future earnings disappear. Every business that serves the coal industry has seen future profits slashed.
Yet somehow Obama is going to bankrupt the energy industry and collect billions in taxes from them at the same time and his supporters don’t see the disconnect. I’ll tell you exactly what’s going to happen - the coal industry will have just one chance to survive, and that’s by restricting supply and doubling prices and hoping that people can still afford to keep the lights on.
This is why socialism/communism doesn’t work. If I mow my neighbors lawn for $20 and the government only lets me keep $10 of it then the next day I’m going to charge $40 so I can keep $20. But the neighbor can’t afford $40, so he doesn’t get his lawn mowed, I don’t get any money, and the government has nothing to tax.
Wonder what this is gonna do to coal on the stock market this week?
I’ve already forwarded it from a previous comment post, thank you.
AND,
GREAT NEWS. Albuquerque Journal endorsed John McCain for President!
Why couldn’t we have found this video/audio before? This is what happens when the media does not do its job. The states where this is big issue should have been given this info to make up their minds. I hope it is not too late.
Wrong. Obama recovers from anything within a week. Remember the audio that came out where he advocated redistribution of wealth??
The coal tape will give Obama no chance to recover if the Republicans spread the word.
Yes the media rolled over for the One - and so did the GOP - They went from having a highly coordinated attack machine to standing around with their hands in their pockets.
Credit due though to Gov. Palin. I hope it’s not too late too.
A message to our guest here today, Mr, Bill Ayers!
Dear Bill,
Even though I despise your terrorist ways, I have to admit, I get a thrill up my leg an the opportunity to speak with you.
I have so many questions!
I’ll offer one at a time:
Q: Why did you chose today to grace us with your presence?
Thank you Wiley,
I’ll be blunt… I wrote Obama’s Dreams for my Father. This book “created” Obama for the masses.
Lets’s face it. Have you read Barack’s poetry? Good lord it is crap. Barack can’t write worth shit.
So, to cut a long story short…
check out my website:
http://americasfavoriteterrorist.com/?q=ka-boom
Love,
Bill
Whats the big Deal, Mr. Ayers. They are “Words, just words” !!
yes, MY WORDS!!!!
and i haven’t been paid!!!!
a player has got to eat, dawg!!!!
Love,
Bill
Have some nice figs.
ha ha…
very clever…
You want a job?
drop me a line!
Love,
Bill
Say hi to Gerald and Marie for me!
Please allow me:
________________________________
UNDERGROUND
Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance,
Tumble in the
Rushing water,
Musty, wet pelts
Glistening in the blue.
~ Barack Omaba 1981
see what I mean?
how can the clown that wrote that crap be responsible for THE GREATEST MEMOIR BY AN AMERICAN EVER?!?!?!?!
can i get an AMEN?!
Love,
Bill
Glad I did a little research - I almost exposed a NON troll LOL
715 Garfield
The Pigeon flies at midnight.
Love,
Bill
OMG!NoQuarter4
Go check out gretawire!!
Hey, I’m for our side but the FOX story out of the UK about Ayers and Obama’s book does not say that Ayers wrote it. It says a professor was offered $10k to TRY to prove Ayers wrote the book but he didn’t take the job.
He also says it’s unlikely to be true, though that can be dismissed since the guy never actually did any work on it.
Let’s focus on what we can do to WIN this election.
McCain and Palin have pledged to BALANCE THE FEDERAL BUDGET by the end of their first term.
Obama wants to ADD $1 Trilion in NEW spending.
Any more questions?
dude,
i wrote the book…
trust me…
for the long story of how and why i did it see here:
http://ahillarybmccainamericafirst.com/?q=node/41
and here:
http://americasfavoriteterrorist.com/?q=ka-boom
Love,
Bill
I have an idea for you ….
Theme parties for aging hippies … You can hold them in Sedona. Peace, man!
dude,
that is a fantastic idea!
i’ll set up an online booking form on my website!
thanks dude!
Love,
Bill
What I found only slightly more stunning than Obama’s equivocations on the coal question were several of his prefatory remarks.
In outlining his decision to run, he claimed to be the candidate best suited to uniting the country.
Come again?! Not only is the country more divided along party lines than it’s been in years, he’s single-handedly alienated millions of Democrats.
And, if this was not an outright shocker, he went on to say, “I’m not above modulating my tones or positions,” and “GENERALLY SPEAKING, I tell the truth.” (my emphasis) No kidding!
The only part he got right was his observation that “Americans have a pretty good nose for hypocrisy.”
Whether that’s true of enough Americans, we’ll find out on Tuesday, but the “GENERALLY SPEAKING” remark should reverberate with every voter on every issue, be it the economy, national security, energy or anything else.
Just so
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHnwa–5gCE&feature=related
Barack Obama doesn’t give a rat’s ass about people living in coal mining states such as Kentucky or West Virginia. The only reason he’s interested in Pennsylvania is because it’s a swing state. His comment about “bitter people clinging to their Bibles and their guns” expresses, albeit not in his usual air-brushed eloquent fashion, how he genuinely feels about voters residing in that state.
Elitism has more to do with attitude than with status. Both Barack and Michelle Obama are elitists who sterotype people in coal mining states using a broad brush that paints anyone residing in these regions as ignorant and backward. I expressed this very sentiment to the Democratic Headquarters in Kentucky around the time the nomination was stolen from Hillary Clinton. Rather than respond to my concerns about an elitist candidate who’s not going to do jack shit for red states like Kentucky, these Obot campaign workers have spammed my e-mail box ever since with “Hail to the O’Hitler” candidate lauds and vespers.
Going on how Barack Obama ridiculed Joe the Plumber following The One’s “spread the wealth” statement made to Joe in Ohio, I seriously doubt an Obama Presidency would be beneficial to anyone except BO and MO and their radical, extremist, socialist, Marxist cast of friends and associates.
Shout out to West Virginia.
http://www.last.fm/music/John+Denver/_/Take+Me+Home%2C+Country+Roads?autostart
Shut out to Kentucky
http://www.imeem.com/emusicoverage/music/_sqht3Z6/dan_fogelberg_run_for_the_roses/
Shout out to Pennsylvania
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdDwm3QIwfg
I will not hand my liberties over to a man who looks down on me, talks down to me, and whose economic and political policies will push me down.
NOBAMA, McCain/Palin
What is going on over at GretaWire? They have this email saying that Hillary endorsed McCain and something about a RoboCaller and the people are accusing both the Dems and Repubs of dirty tricks. I don’t understand.
Hey … if 0blamesomeone doesn’t win Tuesday, who they gonna call?
That punk better not call me!
I am so glad i took that assertiveness training class…
Love,
Bill
I’m sure a lot of people don’t know how much of our electricity comes from coal. If we can figure out how to make clean coal cost effective, we will not only have a great resource for our own country, but we can also export that technology to China - hello, we are downwind from them and they are burning lots of coal. Even if Obama bankrupts coal here, it doesn’t stop the Chinese.
Something that gets overlooked - I think because people don’t realize how much money is involved- is that Obama has financial backers who salivate at this new trade in carbon offsets. Good business. It’s a close as anyone has come yet to being able to sell thin air.
I’m kinda sad that other than Drudge, this news hasn’t made any of the main media outlets. I emailed the McCain campaign and Fox News but so far, it’s not been reported.
Anyone have any other ideas?
AOL’s political machine has published an article.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/11/02/obama-we-will-bankrupt-the-coal-plants/
FOX NEWS has this story on the news crawl at the bottom of the screen and McCain and Palin are both talking about this on the Stump today.
The stupid stick strikes again!
Ben Smith at Politico is saying the tape was edited and has the whole transcript from The San Francisco Chronicle on his blog.
How edited? Was it edited to condense the size or to distort the message?
Ask Sarah Palin if her interviews with Charlie and Katie were edited, they cut the interview to make her look bad. Obama is AGAINST COAL. We use coal because it is the CHEAPEST way to make electricity if you don’t have a river.
This is another example of Obama’s unmovable idealogy. He is NOT a pragmatist like Bill Clinton he is an idealogue. The fact is we have off-shored our pollution and our jobs to China and other Asian countries. Climate change cannot be solved without the participation of China and India. Their emissions are growing so fast that what the US and Western Europe do now cannot negate the massive amounts of CO2 being released by those two emerging giants.
Bankrupting US industry is NOT a good economic plan. This guy is a LUNATIC!
My retired father has coal assets in his small stock market portfolio.
Countless people across the country probably rely on the health of the coal industry because their employers’ retirement plan includes coal assets.
Most of these people probably aren’t even aware they have a vested interest in the coal industry.
So, I wonder what’s gonna happen with coal on the stock market this week?
After November 4th.
After January 20th.
Jake Tapper has it:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/11/republicans-to.html
Hidden Audio:
Obama Tells SF Chronicle He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry
By P.J. Gladnick
November 2, 2008 - 07:26 ET
(Please read update about the San Francisco Chronicle neglecting to mention Obama’s willingness to bankrupt the coal industry at bottom of this blog.)
Imagine if John McCain had whispered somewhere that he was willing to bankrupt a major industry? Would this declaration not immediately be front page news? Well, Barack Obama actually flat out told the San Francisco Chronicle (SF Gate) that he was willing to see the coal industry go bankrupt in a January 17, 2008 interview. The result? Nothing. This audio interview has been hidden from the public…until now. Here is the transcript of Obama’s statement about bankrupting the coal industry (emphasis mine):
Let me sort of describe my overall policy.
What I’ve said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else’s out there.
I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.
That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.
The only thing I’ve said with respect to coal, I haven’t been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a (sic) ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
It’s just that it will bankrupt them.
Amazing that this statement by Obama about bankrupting the coal industry has been kept under wraps until this time.
UPDATE: NewsBusters’ Tom Blumer has found out that the San Francisco Chronicle story published on January 18 based upon this January 17 interview did not include any mention of Obama’s willingness to bankrupt the coal industry which you can hear on the audio. You can read the story here when you scroll down to the “In His Own Words” section. Way to cover up for The One, SF Chronicle!
—P.J. Gladnick is a freelance writer and creator of the DUmmie FUnnies blog.
I think these stories are missing the real story.
These comments display an ignorance on his part about clean coal. That’s why Biden “gaffed.”
Obama really didn’t know about the technology.
Only someone up on energy, a wonk, such as Hillary or, on this topic, Sarah, would know.
He just took the easy position. Coal is bad.
I don’t, honestly, worry about these stories at this point.
He’s not stupid. He can read. He’ll get up to speed on these issues.
I, therefore, don’t think this is an “gotcha” moment.
But…..it is illustrative of his lack of depth.
Sarah’s lack of depth has potential for development.
Obama’s lack of depth means….he’s on a very high learning curve for a very long period of time.
Is he capable of that?
I am not convinced he is, frankly.
Here’s my own bizarre thinking.
People I’ve known who insist on always being cool, calm, and collected?
They really don’t process fast.
They are slow to change.
Bankrupting the coal industry means a skyrocketing electricity bill, especially in the East and Midwest. Thanks Barack, we always wanted to live in the dark.
TruthTeller, you remember this?
BO said zero when billions of dollars walked out of his state.
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Can you say Exelon?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/16/obama-to-declare-carbon-dioxide-dangerous-pollutant/
http://watthead.blogspot.com/2007/06/senator-obama-yields-to-grassroots.html
The McCain camp is misrepresenting Obama’s coal comments. In fact, McCain and Obama hold the same position on coal.
What the McCain camp is not giving you from the original tape:
Obama: “But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion. Because the fact of the matter is is that right now we are getting a lot of our energy from coal. And China is building a coal-powered plant once a week. So what we have to do then is figure out how can we use coal without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon.”
Obama and Biden on Clean Coal: Develop and Deploy Clean Coal Technology. Carbon capture and storage technologies hold enormous potential to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions as we power our economy with domestically produced and secure energy. As a U.S. Senator, Obama has worked tirelessly to ensure that clean coal technology becomes commercialized. An Obama administration will provide incentives to accelerate private sector investment in commercial scale zero-carbon coal facilities. In order to maximize the speed with which we advance this critical technology, Barack Obama and Joe Biden will instruct DOE to enter into public private partnerships to develop 5 “first-of-a-kind” commercial scale coal-fired plants with carbon capture and sequestration.
Obama Passed An Amendment Supported by Biden To Add $200M For Carbon Capture And Sequestration Technology In Senate’s FY 2008 Budget. Obama was the chief sponsor of an amendment to the 2008 Senate Budget resolution that added $200 million for Function 270 (Energy) for the demonstration and monitoring of carbon capture and sequestration technology by the Department of Energy. [SA 599 to SCR 21, Agreed to by Unanimous Consent, 3/23/07]
Biden Proposed Energy Plan That Would Invest In Technologies To Use Coal More Cleanly. In 2007, Biden proposed an energy plan, “Joe Biden supports more than $50 billion in new incentives for research into: alternative fuel and energy sources, renewable energy technology, nuclear waste management and safety, and carbon capture and sequestration technologies that could allow us to use coal cleanly.” [Biden for President Press Release, 11/20/07]
Source: http://www.whptv.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=43762b42-8e1c-4ad9-9a0e-3c63383449fb
RE: “As a U.S. Senator, Obama has worked tirelessly to ensure that clean coal technology becomes commercialized”
HA HA HA HA HA. Boy, that’s funny!!! Obama hasn’t “worked tirelessly” for anything but his own election campaign!
It’s too late for the flip-flopper to try and change his tune now. We know that he and the other extreme leftists want to destroy American’s economy by taking coal away as a viable energy source and leave us to the “tender mercies” of the oil-producing Middle East tyrants.
How do you explain the stock market crash that the Chinese caused just after the Chinese and Iran along with a couple other overseas campaign donators gave $200 million or more to the Obama campaign in Chicago. Notice too the Chinese member of staff now too. See all truth on my website above. Don’t anyone tell truth anymore?
hi i am a mom of three and a wife of a coal miner obama does not know what he is doing to my family and others my husband knows nothing but coal mining he doped out of school has a learning desabilite so for him to not work in the coal mines would put us on welfer and maybe get my kids took away form me and if that happens i would not be able to live if everybody is soooooooooooooo against coal then they all need to turn there lights off i am all for cleaner energy but think befor you speak of how you are goinh to do this and how much more money it is going to take to make cleaner energy there is so much more he needs to worry about then coal outlaw2627@yahoo.com let me know what you think he is not as good as everybody would like him to be i have lived in an coal miners family all my life and if it was not for coal then i would not be here and neither would my kids or my family
thank you rachael