1.2 Million Cubans in Miami Support John McCain and this Hillary Clinton Supporter Does, Too
By Joan Of Art on November 4, 2008 at 5:29 PM in Barack Obama, Bill Ayers, Democratic Party, Economy, FISA, Flip Flopping, Florida, Hillary Clinton, Joe The Plumber, John McCain, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., Tony Rezko
I just returned from working in Miami Dade as the coordinator for Citizens for McCain. As a former Hillary Clinton supporter who volunteered for her all over the country, to many, I know it can seem like a stretch to have crossed over to the other side.
But as I reviewed the history of the primary and the current issues facing us, it seemed increasingly like the only ethical, pragmatic and appropriate choice.
Consider the caucus fraud, stripping of Clinton’s votes and denial of a fair and open roll call. The relentless sexism from the media and the silence from Democratic Party. Obama’s refusal to have town halls with her and then McCain. Obama’s waffling on important issues like FISA and campaign finance reform. The obscene amounts of money that Obama’s campaign has spent when people are losing their homes. Over 680 million dollars of which we know. Probably more. His lack of judgment in choosing close associates and friends. Like Jeremiah Wright. Tony Rezko. William Ayers. Khalidi.
It is clear that the Democratic Party as we knew it, the Democratic Party of my parents, no longer exists. Its leadership does not support the most basic principle of one person, one vote. And they do not support women, the majority of its membership.
Clearly, it is time to look somewhere else.
And then the economy tanked and the choice became very clear. I have never voted Republican in my life. As I began to study the issues more closely, I grew to really appreciate what John McCain has to say. He understands that you cannot tax small businesses at a high rate, as Obama is proposing. Small businesses are what drive the economy. We need and must create opportunities for Joe (and Josie!) the Plumber. What can Obama be thinking? And how does he possibly plan to pay for all of the programs he is proposing? More taxes in a struggling economy?
Nobody gets this more than the Cuban community in Miami.
Traveling much of the time in Miami with Dr. Lynette Long, the leading expert on the caucus fraud perpetuated against Hillary Clinton by Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee, we did a lot of canvassing and shaking of hands, otherwise known as retail politics. Almost everyone we met were proudly, even vehemently pro McCain. Even the seniors who didn’t speak English would shake their heads and wag their fingers when we asked them about Obama. They are suspicious of charisma and empty promises. Families who had made the treacherous journey to come to America, often leaving behind everything they knew or had owned compared Obama to Castro. “Fidel said change, too,” one young woman said whose family’s property had been seized and whose father had been imprisoned in Cuba for six years. “I don’t want socialism. I know how bad it can be. Our families want to work hard. We want opportunities, not hand outs. We love John Mccain. We trust him.” America is the land of immigrants and opportunities. In honor of these wonderful Cuban Americans who are the soul of Miami and part of the extended heart of this great country, let’s get out the vote.
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Great report from FLA. This Hillary supporter is crossing his fingers for Sarah Palin & Mac.
Agreed, Joan – excellent! And I totally understand working for McCain now. My vote today was a massive protest vote against the DNC and its descent into, well, what do you call it when people lie, cheat, and steal? Oh, right – criminal behavior, and the misogyny and race-baiting that were the cornerstones of Obama’s campaign. As I have said to a few people, I am a Republican voting virgin no longer. Never voted for one before, but it doesn’t hurt that McCain is much more palatable to me than Obama could EVER be…
Thanks!!
Are celestial choirs singing? Oops that is only if you voted for Opampers!
I want to personally thank Senator Pampers OGovernment for broadening my horizons. I just got back from voting and dang did it feel good to vote straight ticket GOP! This is the first time I ever even voted for a Republican in my entire life!
DNC you can bite me. Unless Hillary is allowed to take over the direction of the party I will never return!
PUMAs will set the course of things. Moderates reign not whackjob elitist extremists!
That’s a comment from this article:
Going to be a long night but McCain will win
Interesting scenario. I will be so happy when all the speculating and spinning is over!
how sweet that would be!!!!
OT – I went to my polling station in mont county and zero line. i walked right in and right up to the booth. it was awesome! first time I ever voted for a republican and was proud to do it.
PUMA POWER!!!
I do think HRC will have a place in a McCain administration.
I don’t know what to make of the light turnout in Montco, it depends what part of the county you’re in?
On another topic – the strange professor guy who bragged on stealing lawn signs was
shit-canned.
I voted in North Wales – near Lansdale. My dad voted too and there was short wait and he is in Chester County near Phoenixville. My friend voted in Downingtown this morning and short lines there as well.
BTW .. we all voted for McCain/Palin
Ydych Chi Cymraes?
YES, me too! As a recovering Democrat, I feel a strange sense of freedom and possibility…
“recovering Democrat?” Love it!
Yes, as a former life long Massachusetts democrat I voted for McCain/Palin with a heavy heart thinking that it should have been Hillary’s day but then I continued to vote all Republican down ticket including against Kerry (she wrote with great snarky pleasure) and felt better!
You took the words out of my mouth! Unless Hillary comes back, the DNC can BITE ME TOO!
DNC is dead to me, no matter what happens.
quick question, amy – does supporting legislation that would deny abortion to a woman even if the doctors say she is likely to die in childbirth strike you as “misogyny”? how about charging poor rural women hundreds of dollars for rape kits because your personal religious views indicate that a rape victim should have the baby anyway? institutionalized “misogyny”?
If this is some clever allusion to Palin, I read that both rapes during her tenure (there were 2 in Wasilla) had rape kits covered by insurance, and she didn’t form or change the regulations covering this. It’s not the kits, rather the expense is in the doctor’s care and lab tests.
It’s unrealistic fearmongering to propose that anyone expects a mother to die in childbirth or even approaching childbirth. Roe v. Wade is stare decisis, it’s not going anywhere after 32 years. There is such a thing as a c-section if the baby is viable. There’s very few conditions that would require an abortion, perhaps severe maternal hypertension, preeclampsia…not too many things.
I think that unrestricted abortion, afterall it is killing a baby and so it should be approached with great care….but unrestricted cavalier abortion is abusive to women. It devalues their maternal instinct to trivialize a fetus as less than human. I think this sets them up for horrible guilt, often-times…and I think that a lot of the weird reaction you see towards Palin is because she chose not to have abortions and it hit a raw nerve. This is the best I can come up to explain the visceral hatred for someone who did nothing to deserve it.
It appears that the Cubans have treated Fidel’s endorsement of Obama with the utmost respect.
It appears to me that O’s plan IS to sink private ownership of business.
Thanks for the report.
I hear the same from former Soviet bloc inhabitants.
Ok since n0bama wants to sink the economy, here’s my plan, when McCain wins I will personally jump-start my regional economy by purchasing a vehicle.
And also donating to the PUMA blogs who intend to stay online, including of course, NQ.
Red – WHEN McCain wins tonight – lets meet at the corner pub and I’ll buy the first round! Where is garlic nose? We should all meet up to celebrate!
Boxer-
I can’t meet up with you tonite, but maybe this weekend? I will send one of the admins of this site my contact info and then you could get in touch with me – and garlicnose.
You Betcha! It’s a deal.
Very quietly people I know are supporting JM/SP. Mostly older Dems. I am in FL too.
I made upwards of 75 calls today to MO, PA, FL, CO, and NM. I left messages on about half of the calls, received rousing measures of support for McPalin on app a third of the calls, got “thanks for the call” on the balance, but had “ONE” lonely individual tell me he voted for BO.
I am not fabricating.
I have been a dem for 22 years and just voted in Florida in a almost all black area and I was the only person in line?
I vote for McCain
lorida in a heavy black area
I’m is Palm Beach County, Florida. Not much of a line or wait at all here. Mostly country people where I am.
What surprised me is the lack of signs, people waving for their candidates, bumper stickers or signs for any candidates.
Its like the silent election this year!
I’m glad to hear the turn out in your area was not strong.
I live downtown WPB… Flamingo Park area… I’m pretty sure my area is going heavily Obama based on yard signs. Then again, we ARE the more bohemian area. Over in El Cid section of West Palm, the estates all have McCain signs out front, lol!
Virginia Update
http://patriotroom.com/?p=3909
Thanks, Bill!
In this election, it seems that anecdotal evidence is more accurate than “official sources” and media.
Bill Dupray:
But how does Fairfax compare to Richmond (I know nothing about VA) in terms of Party affiliation, etc. From your post (at your site) that state official was taking about Richmond?
Thanks for the update!!
Andy I’m in Virginia, and Richmond is a red area and Fairfax(Northern Va inside the beltway) is blue. However, the city of Richmond has a majority African American population which accounted for the long lines in the city. I am just across the line and there was absolutely no lines when we went to vote at 10:00am
Glad to see this. One of the people I polled this week, said that the older Cubans from south Florida would vote McCain, but it’s great to hear it from you as well Joan. I was just going to do some research about this when I opened your post.
Does anyone know how the Jewish community here in Florida is voting for?
I read one chart today that said we needed 165,194 PUMA here in Florida to turn Florida red. I hope they factored in all the new Democrats. But according to them they had been successful in 45 years of predicting. http://www.marstonchronicles.info
I was in Boca a heavy Jewish area all day and saw alot of Obama signs but with clients I meet with they where for McCain and proud to say it.
My Latin Friends from Miami going for McCain
Joe the Plumber help big alot of small business in Florida
First exit poll numbers:
Obama by 4 in Pennsylvania, by 2 in Virginia, trailing by 2 in North Carolina, leading by 1 in Florida, leading by 1 in Ohio.
This is wonderful news! The exit polls were bound to be horribly skewed to Obama and even so they are this tight? I expected to see him 5-10 in each of these states. I think this means McCain wins each of these states!
Shiloh – That’s a great start! The Silenced Majority will speak today.
Arabella, is this normal? Were the exit polls like this with John Kerry? Also, the polls haven’t closed so how are they giving polls right now?
Andrew – Other people can give you a better idea about how exit polling works. Personally, I don’t put much faith in it. People can refuse to answer a poller’s question or lie about how they voted. (By the way, my comment was to Shiloh was kind of a “howdy” to her.)
IIRC, Kerry’s exit polling looked great early on in the evening and we know what happened that year, eh?
It’s going to be a long night, so I’m staying positive, and so should you!
Don’t worry, OK?
Yes, Obama should be up by about 5% in early exit polls. For some reason, Dems answer exit poll questions and skew the polls.
But he is up 15% in PA according to Drudge, although the story is developing so we don’t know where this info is coming from.
Andrew -
take a deep breath and listen:
Actually, no, go to the malstrom article, and read his excellent analysis on Pennsylvania. He predicted that the MSM would call PA for n0bama all night long – until it was clear that McCain took the state.
Kerry is not a logical comparison. Compare to exit polls being skewed in Opampers versus Hillary in primaries. Opampers CONSISTENTLY had artificially higher numbers.
shiloh…i remember how obama was always over-polled in the exit polls during the primaries. you’re right. this is good news.
keep the faith all. we’ve worked our arses off for this. the dnc will have to pay attention!
mccain!!
Rah Rah, how far off were the polls in the primaries? Did this happen to John Kerry in 2004, that is, did John Kerry have polls that said he was up a few points only to lose by several?
Yes.
The exit polls released in the late afternoon made it appear Kerry was headed for a win.
where did you see this Shiloh?
After the 2004 election, the National Election Pool completed a study investigating why the exit polls that year showed John Kerry over performing 5.5 net points[1] better than the actual results showed him to have done. Their conclusion was that the primary reason the exit polls was that Kerry voters and Democrats were more likely to participate in the exit polls.
Shiloh, where do you get these #’s from….Drudge report has a developing story for exit poll numbers in PA — Obama is up 15 +.
Megan Kelley on Fox made a good point today about exit polls. Yes, they are skewed toward Obama which would overestimate BUT his supporters are zealots so there are many early voters that voted for him, thus, underestimating his support in these exit polls. I am hoping the wait is worth the end result. I haven’t prayed like this since Hillary was in the primary.
GO Mac GO! (you too Governor Palin)
Unrelated but HILARIOUS.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/04/man-parks-manure-near-democrats-campaign-office-protest-obama/
I was taught Spanish by a former Supreme Court Justice of Cuba who, while serving under Batista, joined forces with a young firebrand name Fidel Castro. He went into the hills with Fidel and fought to rid his country of a corrupt, oppressive government. He wasn’t with Fidel long before realizing that what was to come would be so much worse, taking his family out of Cuba before Fidel could stop him.
This was in the early sixties, after JFK was killed. His insight into the Communist movement went a long way in shaping my political beliefs.
The advent of the SDS and subsequent Weather Underground were the final straw for me. I read and saw what they were doing and I decided then and there to join the Army, go Airborne and earn a Green Beret just so I could fight against the evil that is Communism.
I swore an oath to defend my country against all foes, foriegn and domestic and just because my government said I didn’t have to follow their officers’ orders anymore did not absolve me of my own oath.
There are more than a few of us who believe in these things, and I am thankful so many of you are here, fighting the fight.
Stay strong in your beliefs. Hold out against the evil.
Doing those two things will always bring you through…
God Bless America
aaahhhh Zeke – thank you for your service and for defending our great country.
You and all of the others serving in the military today are the primary reason I voted for McCain/Palin.
I’m a lifelong Dem but have crossed the aisle from time to time to vote for good Rep’s in local and state elections.
This year though, without question, my vote was for the men and women protecting my country from the forces that want to destroy us. I was deeply affected by the tragedy on 9/11 and was extremely disappointed that Bush declared his preemptive strike on a country that our intelligence knew had nothing in their arsenal to harm us.
Inexperience and family vendetta didn’t sell me then and it certainly didn’t sell me this time either.
It felt really good to vote for my new friend’s President McCain and Vice President Palin. They are my heroes and I respect the hell out of both of them.
Proud PUMA!
ROOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!
drudge is saying: EXIT POLLS CLAIM ‘OBAMA +15′ IN PA… DEVELOPING…
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Don’t worry, Andrew.
WOW, that sure took the wind out of me
They made similar claims in 2004 and it was not true. Don’t pay attention to the exit polls.
REALLY?? I was so happy about the anecdotal reports from people here and now my heart is in my throat.
Don’t pay attention to it. They declared Kerry the winner based on exit polls. No republican will want to talk to a pollster. Obama people are instructed to seek them out. Don’t pay attention to it.
They are over sampling the Philly are.
Don’t fall for it. They oversampled minorities 4:1.
If they had oversampled the Amish and Mennonites by that ratio, McCain would be ahead by 30.
(are they even allowed to vote? I saw some at the rally last Sunday).
or even if they had oversampled the “racist rednecks” in John Murtha’s district you’d see a big McCain lead.
Mennonites usually do vote.
Amish tend not to, except when they feel very strongly that the outcome will affect their community. Since many Amish have small businesses (agriculture, furniture making, household items), then I’m guessing they will be very interested in voting this election…especially with Obama’s views on abortion. I don’t think anyone really took their vote into account because it takes alot for them to do so; but if they are at rallies, then they are voting, which is good for McCain.
A poster on the last thread said his/her sister was approached by an exit pollster (in VA, I think). When he found out she was a democrat the pollster was interested. When she said she was a democrat who just voted for McCain, he lost interest.
In case that helps any…
where are you seeing this? i was just on drudge and didn’t see this are they only polling center city?
Joan, I live in Tampa in the heart of the Cuban community here. Same thing. McCain will win FL. All I here is “Obama is the same as Castro & Chavez.”
Many Latinos in FL distrust him, in fact, SUSA says 52% of Latinos in FL will go to McCain.
PUMA at CNN:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/04/puma-founder-obama-is-democrats-bush/
I read the article. (Thank you, BTW.)
I also read some of the comments. Wow! The hatred for PUMA is almost tangible.
We should learn the lessons of ‘04. Only poll we pay attention to should be the actual votes. Besides, it should be illegal to post exit polls before actual polls close – at least on the West Coast. VOTE!
No shit Doc. I am tired of polls but soon this will be over thank god.
and are not fraudulent…
Agreed! No exit polls should be released until after our Westernmost states have closed their precincts. It influences voting patterns in the Western states. Should be an illegal practice.
which is their raison d’etre.
(the exit polls)
to suppress the Western US vote for the guy the polls say is losing.
Does anyone know what the poll results are so far?
I just don’t want to watch the news!
Exit polls are CRAP. No Way is Obama leading PA by 15, are you freakin kidding me
All these exit polls are probably out of Philly.
You’re probably tight. PA will be very close, either way it goes.
Of course, if BO is only ‘winning’ Philadelphia by 15% (or even 18%) then, he loses PA in a landslide.
Not only that these are early exit polls the poll are still open for an other 45 minutes. So what ever they are reporting is from this morning.
If ANYONE believes the Drudge exit polls, I have some land on the moon to sell you. Drudge wants traffic. Obama is not leading by 15. That’s just crazy talk.
Great points, Mr. X — thanks!!
Exit polls also show that 70% of people believe that US will be hit again by terrorist attack. Are they voting for Obama??
What, did Drudge take the story out of developing? Terrorist attack. Where are these exit polls coming from?
Andrew, exit polling is bull shit.
By the way, what are you doing tonight? Right now I’m eating pretzels and waiting for my husband to come home. I plan to watch Real Housewives of Atlanta on Bravo. Excellent program.
I’m sitting in front of my computer anxiously watching election results. The TV is off, and will remain off. If McCain wins, the TV will go on so I can see those pricks eat crow, if McCain loses, the TV will stay off.
LMAO! Same here! I can’t wait to see Donna B. get humiliated on CNN! And Olberman and that Barney Rubble looking guy on MSNBO! Popcorn anyone?
I’m getting a pedicure at a fancy salon.
No TV no radio nothing.
Drudge is full of crap. Bad story and was pulled.
IT WAS PULLED? YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16% of Clinton supporters in Ohio are going for McCain…
Where is this coming from?
Fox exit polls.
Is Fox reporting that 15 point story?
Chill out dude.
When something extreme is posted its bullshit.
I haven’t seen it, but so far I’ve only seen numbers from certain demographics.. not for a whole state.
If that is true then we got Ohio locked up.
drrrrr!
It’s six o clock in the morning, Nov. 4th 2008.
I get up and check the news. Hillary Clinton and John McCain are at the end of a long campaign, awaiting the outcome of this election.
What was that nightmare I had, I barely remember, caucus fraud, birth certificates, this slimy guy who is in every newspaper, annoying.
Thank God it was just a dream. (no offense MLK)
And for making this nightmare reality and for suppressing our dream candidate, get out the Vote for Mac!
Joan, what You write confirms to me what I feel about the Latino vote in LA/California.
They are smart and have figured BO out long time ago.
Villaroigosa is also not campaigning much (I think).
Latinos vote for the real MacCoy, not the hopy-dopy air baloon.
I was doing errands today and I saw a car parked on the side of the street. It had a big home made banner on the back that said “Obama 2008.” The young man who was driving it ran into the bagel store across the street.
I thought “Either he’s getting bagels for people, or he’s driving folks to the polls.” Then I noticed the car was parked right in front of a funeral home!
LMAO!
Every vote counts.
Obama’s got the George Romero vote locked up.
Agreed. My grandparents instilled the phrase: “It’s the party, not the man…” into me as a child. They never once voted Republican because of their strong allegiance to the Democratic Party. They would be shocked (and saddened) to see their party today.
First State Exit Poll Numbers Are Tighter Than Recent Polling
Obama by 4 in Pennsylvania, by 2 in Virginia, trailing by 2 in North Carolina, leading by 1 in Florida, leading by 1 in Ohio.
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/11/04/first-state-exit-poll-numbers-are-tighter-than-recent-polling/
updated drudge:
“EXIT POLLS CLAIM ‘OBAMA +15′ IN PA… DEVELOPING…
TOO CLOSE TO CALL AT CLOSE: FL, IN, OH…
MCCAIN KEEPING AZ… DEVELOPING… “
I thought the 15 point story was pulled.
They usually exit poll in urban areas.
Maybe Hillary could pull 15% victory in PA… BO not so much.
exactly correct.
OT: Hillary RICO suit against Obama.
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=34745
I read this earlier today and was blown away! Thanks for reposting the link.
Like 1992 and 2004, Obama Dems are more likely to participate in exit surveys. It isn’t anything to get even a little excited about at this point.
don’t believe the lies about exist polls etc…
just vote… that is all… don’t be stopped from voting… by anyone… black panther or in the tank media…
get to the polls!
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Andrew, remember exit polling is just as, if not more prone to error and misrepresentation as any other kind of polling.
I think your mathematical abilities and your awesome physics skillz hamper you in a way. Remember, if the data is crap the results are too. Measuring human behavior and factoring all variables into account is not an exact science.
Oops, forgot the link.
http: //marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/11/mccain_campaign_exit_polls_wil
.php
NO WAY IN HELL IS OBAMA UP BY 15 in PA, not unless ACORN did the job
http://gawker.com/tag/exit-polls/
He’s not
Thanks Bud. Some people here need reassurance that obvious bullshit is indeed bullshit.
Andrew this is for you:
Thanks, Galt. I tried to divert everyone’s anxiety by telling a story about Barney Frank’s dip-hogging ways circa 1975 and nobody showed any interest. Too much on people’s minds tonight, I guess.
Your welcome. And the dip story was funny! A dipshit hogging the dip!
A man apparently dressed in black insisted on reporting his results to the pollster 500 times.
One election night many moons ago, I was in an appartment in Cambridge MA waiting for election results. Barney Frank was hogging all the dip.
True story.
LOL…
The George Costanza of the Senate….full of it.
Barney Frank ran commercials here in MA accusing the Republicans of blocking attempts to regulate Fannie Mae / Freddy Mac. True story.
I never liked Barney Frank, and not just because he hogged all the snacks. He was not out of the closet when I knew him. When he came out, I thought “Oh, no wonder he was such a fat, miserable schmuck. He was suffering.” So he got a pass from me for years.
But he was and always has been a schmuck, and a schnorer too.
Who here said that McCain would win PA, now on Drudge it says Obama up by 15 there, I dont know what to believe anymore, I cant believe people can be THIS stupid
It’s way too early in the evening to say anything.
Sarracuda – don’t believe the exit polls. they over sample and take only the inner city votes. there are tons of folks in the burbs that will not vote for Barry.. remember the ones that cling to their guns and religion.. do you honestly think they are going to participate in the exit polls??
If it were hillary running against McCain I could care less which one won, I would be happy with either outcome, but now, I am praying for my country, I can’t believe that people are THIS dumb to be snowed by a guy who seems “cool” what is wrong with people, he is gonna raise their taxes beyond belief, do they want another Jimmy Carter, heck Jimmy Carter looks good at this point compared to an Obama
We have to have faith in each other as citizens that when making their decision alone in the booth, they will do the right thing. Obama is too risky to vote for, this has to weigh on people’s minds.
We all have to just calm down, breath deep and think positively. There’s no room for negative energy.
Pop some popcorn, open that bottle of red or white and just kick back and relax, it’s gonna be a long night but we’ll pull this one out.
PUMA is the real deal and will tilt the election to McCain/Palin.
We’ll soon have our first female VP and an American Hero as President and there will be a sigh of relief all across the globe.
My sister-in-law in Springfield, VA told me at her voting precinct she asked a neighbor who was handing out sample ballots for Dems (for voters to see how to vote a all Dem ticket) how it was going and was told ‘not well, not many are talking the sample ballot’, she looked very dejected. That could mean either voters didn’t need them or were not voting Dem.
in 2004 Kerry was up far more than Obama the night before the election and the exit polls were running on average Kerry up by 5-10 points as I recall. As the night wore on and the actual results came in it was evident that those were wrong. Many don’t answer or lie if they do. Also Dems are more likely to respond than someone voting for a Rep.
It ain’t over until the fat lady sings and I don’t hear a fat lady yet.
I can’t believe that Minnesota is going to elect Al Franken. What a joke that state will be! Franken is outrageous and will make Democrats look foolish.
More foolish then they already look?
These are base on what?
Foolish like electing an actor to the Presidency?
Hmmm . . . Interesting Exit Polls
http://patriotroom.com/?p=3912
What are the poll results?
Obama wins every state (all 57) by 89 points! You better go tell Drudge! /snark
Will Bower on CNN: Obama is the Democrats’ Bush
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/puma-founder-obama-is-democrats-bush/
results from indiana trickling in on cnn
Bad results? PLEASE DON’T BE BAD RESULTS.
Andrew, go practice your viola for a while. You gotta calm down, man.
Yeah Andrew, I’m confident but you are starting to give me knots in my stomach. PLease step away from the computer, drink some warm milk, go to bed early and tomorrow this will have all been a very bad dream.
BREAKING:
AP-McCain Suit-Virginia
Judge orders officials to keep late ballots
Eds: APNewsNow.
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — A federal judge has ordered election officials in Virginia to preserve late-arriving absentee ballots that Republican John McCain’s campaign claims should be counted.
The McCain campaign says in a lawsuit that absentee ballots weren’t mailed on time to many military members serving overseas. The complaint asks the court to order the state to count absentee ballots from overseas troops postmarked by Tuesday and received by Nov. 14.
The deadline for ballots to be received is 7 p.m. on Election Day.
U.S. District Judge Richard Williams said Tuesday that he will hear the lawsuit on Nov. 10. He ordered election officials to keep the late-arriving ballots until then.
Military ballots should always be counted!
Damn straight! These are men and women who are out in the front lines fighting and keeping peace, so anyone who tries to deny their right to have their votes counted are just unpatriotic aholes.
this is fabulous news!
i’m embarrassed as a Virginian that my SOS and Governor would dare not tabulate these votes. how dare they!
Good Evening All,
This Florida Democrat proudly voted for McCain/Palin. I voted straight ticket Republican because Obama, the DNC and the Democrat party disgusts me. And no way do I want the Dems controlling the house and senate and Obama as President. Obama as president is dangerous for this country.
http://gawker.com/5076419/exit-polls-exit-polls-exit-polls
I HOPE TO GOD THESE POLLS ARE WRONG
After the 2004 election, the National Election Pool completed a study investigating why the exit polls that year showed John Kerry over performing 5.5 net points[1] better than the actual results showed him to have done. Their conclusion was that the primary reason the exit polls was that Kerry voters and Democrats were more likely to participate in the exit polls.
And this year they’re trying to skew them…
I posted upthread how someone commented on the last thread about their sister being approached by an exit pollster who wanted to talk to her when he found out she was a dem – lost interest in talking to her when she told him she’d voted for McCain.
Voila – these exit polls.
We don’t know you. We aren’t clicking on your stupid polls. Go the hell away.
During the primaries, Obama’s numbers were always up in the beginning because big cities – where he does better – are counted first. Smaller communities come in later.
This is going to be a long night.
I see a McCain victory and, because I am starting to see so many Obama supporters make deriding comments (on other blogs, too), I believe they sense it as well. I mean, wasn’t Obama supposed to be 578% ahead by this point?
Right.
Yep.
Certainly if you consider money spent.
Who are we kidding, Obama is gonna be our next President, we are seriously screwed, the American people are retarded, they hate Bush so much, they will have someone that will make Bush look like a prince
The night is young.
Dark Knight apparently has scary polls under that link. Didn’t click on it but I am starting to hyperventilate.
Blow into a brown paper bag.
lol….read campaignspot.nationalreview.com for comfort
These polls arent bad. He is within striking distance or ahead in most of what he needs. Even in VA where he is behind kinda big the breakdown looks good to me. Nearly 60% of whites are supporting McCain with 10% of blacks (which only makes up 22% of the vote). Late voters are breaking his way. Kerry won the exit polls by 5 points. It aint over yet.
Ok…I don’t want to report bad news, but I am having a bad feeling about Indiana. I looked at the county breakdown and the percentage white/black voters. It appears that many of the results in come from 90% plus white counties and either Obama is leading or the vote is split. When the larger, more urban counties come in, that will dominate those more rural counties.
After living in the state for 10+ years, I find it difficult to believe that Indiana could go for Obama but it looks like the white vote is pretty split.
This is giving me a sinking feeling
I just cannot believe that so many voters “believe” in what Obama is selling.
INDIANA is making me sweat
Got my McCain vote in at 7am this morning. Go McCain!! Go!!
Fox showing some polls already.
Looks like Maine, New Hampshire way ahead for BO. Kentucky McCain, Indiana dead heat!
Results I should have said.
Wait, are these the results as they are coming in?
Can we pretty please have an open thread dedicated to the election results as they come in? Thanks!
drudge just put up an article on how exit polls were wrong in 2004
Everybody calm down. Lots of people haven’t even voted yet.
Get away from the computer. Go for a walk. Go out to dinner.
Take it easy.
Am I going to have to just stop looking at this blog? Depressing news from Indiana and Kentucky. Those should be ultra red. Vomit is in my throat.
Yes, get awaf from this blog. Do your homework. And stop worrying.
There is no homework tonight. Gave us the night off for the election. How kind of them.
Do some extra calculus problems.
Do some extra calculus problems.
I could do that. Is it looking really bad? Like really impossibly bad?
Andrew – Indiana strangely enough is a state that has two different time zones. Let’s pretend that only half of their polls are reporting results while the other half hasn’t there polls haven’t even closed yet.
I’m with Arabella – go play your viola or do some extra homework. It is waaaayyyyy to early to have vomit in your throat.
B – R – E – A – T – H
If you were in a fox hole Andrew your comrads would shoot you just to shut you up. Chew on that for a while.
Kentucky is way ahead for Mac, Indiana neck and neck.
But Arabella is right everyone calm down, I’m going to get drunk! Let me know how it turns out in the morning (joking)!!!!
Obama’s internal poll told him that he was trailing McCain 5 % in Indiana. He told his people – we can still win.
Dude, you need to take a chill pill. Nothing anyone can do if Obama wins and you had to be expecting that he would considering the polls. You should already have been braced for it.
That said, I hope their is a big surprise turn of events but I sure am not counting on it.
Dude, you need to take a chill pill. Nothing anyone can do if Obama wins and you had to be expecting that he would considering the polls. You should already have been braced for it.
That said, I hope there is a big surprise turn of events but I sure am not counting on it.
Fox has some returns starting to come in – lower lefthand side of the screen…
EEK!!! NOT WATCHING!! NOT WATCHING!! NOT WATCHING!!
I’n not watching either. I am preparing for the worst. People want someone to blame for the financial crisis, so they are blaming the Republican party because Bush is President, they don’t care what Obama is or how evil he is, they don’t care, they just want to punish the Republicans for the economy
Polls aren’t even closed yet, 3 more minutes EDT.
Where are they closing?
Boot Obama back to Kenya to the jungle. Obama deserves to be the president of chimpanzees in Kenya jungle praying to his moronic allah for constant supply of bananas.
This is really funny you made me laugh. Thank you.
Remember Super Tuesday – the exit polls had Hillary losing everwhere except perhaps NY and the losers at msnbc were delirious with joy… dont trust those exits one bit.
Not good fox is starting to faun over Obama.
Vomit. No longer watch Fox. Better turn them off.
I hate to be the bringer of bad tidings, but here in central Florida it seems like affluent whites are going for Obama big time. I haven’t seen any evidence of PUMA support for McCain anywhere. This is the most bizarre election I’ve seen in my whole life(I’m 54). Millionaires for Che Obama! I’ve seen more support for McCain among Hispanics than anyone else. I’m thinking this is going to be a 4 yr nightmare, and we will have latte-sipping yuppies to thank for it.
are the trolls still here?
Very encouraging!
Either they have no friends, not even with a fake name on the internet.
Or Mac is winning.
Well, or both.
I take option # 3
The early numbers usually look good for dems. I think it’s because the urban areas get reported first.
Obama dis-invited his celebrity guests from the party tonight. Obama’s campaign sent emergency e-mails to volunteers today asking them to come and help in phone banks. Obama looks like bloody hell and runs away from reporters.
Does he sound like a winner to you?
Really? Why would he do that?
Maybe I should go and edit a Wikipedia page. Still, I’m afraid that if I leave, I’ll come back and it will be bad.
Just go to sleep and you’ll find out who won when you wake up.
I’m in California, its 3:53pm here
It’s only 4:54 here. Mighty early to go to sleep. People out her in the West [Arizona] get to suffer the tortures of seeing the entire election play out.
Thanks for that, Arabella. I think you’re a strong person of strong character. Thanks for being here.
From Hillbuzz – Remember: Drudge and the Media Lie
I went to bed four years ago thinking Kerry had won it. I do not believe any early results.
This is why I am NEVER gonna believe stupid internet poll postings again, I got too excited thinking that McCain would win this hands down and now we gotta suffer through this. I am just hoping for the best, God please protect our country tonight
It’s an exit poll. What are you talking about. These are not the real results. Plus Kerry was up by more then 10 points in some cases in 2004
got my tickets and will be heading to the Arizona Biltmore in about 2 hours to see McCain and hopefully will be celebrating!
aaahhhhhhhhhh. what a cathartic experience you are going to have. I’m jealous! Dance and yell real loud “COUNTRY FIRST” in honor of us NQ folk.
Very warming article. Mention of Hillary does that for me.
I consider it every day. None of us shall ever forget it. This is the year our country went down the tubes.
Precisely.
John is very very honest.
That must be wonderful!
Yes. They don’t expect the government to pay their mortgage.
Everybody,
Most people have voted by now. Most of the states that matter except for the CO,NV,NM are closing in 5 minutes or will close with in an hour. So these exit polls don’t mean anything anymore. The real results will come in over the next 3 hours.
The exit polls NEVER meant anything.
One more vote for McCain?Palin!!
This registered PUMA democrat had NO problem voting for McCain!!!!!
I knew this would happen here tonight. All this pissing and moaning. If you can’t be positive just go to bed. You can find out that McCain won in the morning and not bring the rest of us down tonight.
Where did you get those exit poll numbers?
Sarracuda is saying that Kentucky is really close. Is this true?
No…Kentucky is way McCain
CNN just called KY for McCain…VT for Barky. No surprise there.
Ooh, they are already calling states? Hold me!!!
Some things take me ages to understand. I’ve been attacked all year for supporting Hillary. These were vicious people carrying out vicious really hateful attacks. I finally figured out why tonight.
They were all from either Chicago or Philadelphia.
If McCain couldn’t win by a landslide in freakin Kentucky he is screwed
Think! How many common people out in fly-over country are voting for Bobo? The American people rejected McGovern, Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry–and Bobo is way more radical!
My understanding is that the main purpose of exit polls is to analyze the results, by asking people the reasons for their votes and their opinions on issues, and also noting their demographics. Then the exit polls are weighted to the results of the given election. Exit polls aren’t really designed to predict the election’s results.
Thanks!
Bingo!
What does Indiana look like now? Is it going botish? Have the results come in even?
Mccain up in Indiana 50% – 49%
mccain is winning by 1,000 votes
How much more to tally?
50 McCain, 49 Obama. The problem that I am having is that it is mostly rural white areas coming in now, not the urban areas
So Obama is going to win Indiana?
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Seriously, I come here to escape the assholes on television trying to suppress voter turnout and not to listen to people whine about exit polls. Thanks!
Thank YOU. I still intend to watch “Extreme Railroading” on the History Channel tonight. Also “The Real Housewives of Atlanta.”
I’m not gonna waste my time waiting for anninca to show up talking about why she left her ballot entirely blank except for voting for one green party candidate.
Let’s all calm the fuck down.
only 10% of the vote is in.
Marion County in Indiana is too close to call and this is highly unusual here as it normally goes democratic.
Overall McCain is up 51%
Reported now on the local news.McCain is expected to win!
Is Marion a highly populated county?
Yes,Indianapolis and a high african -american central area.This combinded with Gary Indiana( Lake County where all the late reporting took place in the primaries) totals over 20% of our state.Gary of course is close to Obama territory far north bordering Chicago.
So the local news is projecting a win for McCain?
Obama had a better shot in IN than in OH or other normally R states. But looks like McCain takes it.
McCain projected winner in Ky
CNN and FOX should at least show where their numbers are coming from. I’m up for watching results real time, but just looking at a bunch of raw tallies flash by with a constantly recalculating percentage is pretty stupid. Context please !
if you go on CNN’s website they have election talliest per county
Andrew, please knock it off! Chill!
Repub gov in IN is projected winner
I find it difficult to believe that they could call this race when the votes from the urban area are not in yet….strange.
McCain is doing very well in KY. The numbers that you are seeing is coming mostly from Louisville.
I have never written a post before. I first found this site is the early summer and have become a daily reader. I am a little different then most people here in that I am a registered Rebublican that became a Hillary supporter during the primaries.
Just wanted everyone to know that during these stressful time of seeing a possible Obama victory, I have taken great comfort in knowing that you all are out there with similiar opinions.
Welcome Brian. Happy to learn you are part of the audience. I hope you post more often.
Brian ~
The feeling is mutual.
I can tell you that my sister-in-law, who voted for Bush twice was just as happy to hear we were supporting McCain.
There is more of us in the middle than there are at the far right or left.
I said this long ago, there is a brand new party growing right here on NoQuarter.
Thank you Larry Johnson!
Can McCain take Indiana, PLEASE GOD PLEASE!!
I voted in Virginia for McCain Palin
I told the exit poller I voted for BHO hahaha
I even took some of that stoopid voter paper before I went in. Trashed it hahahahahaha
PRAY PEOPLE
PRAY
Brian, welcome. I am also a first time commenter. I discovered this blog from gretawire.
I am a very moderate republican that voted for Hillary because I thought she was a lot like me. she grew up republican and I thinnk she still has that moderation in her.
Today I voted straight republican
Pray for a big win
Welcome Rosemary. Same message to you that I just wrote to Brian. Hope you post more often. NQ is a great site and haven for the sane voter.
Omg, my Direct TV is cool. It has this “election mix” channel where all the election Tv news channels are in little box on the screen i can flip through. LOl.
I’m also new here. Discovered NQ only today, directed from the Hillary Or Bust website. I’m registered Independent & voted for McCain-Palin this morning.
I never knew the extent of the PUMA phenomenon. Wow! Registered Democrats who see through Obama’s fraud and who think for yourselves. You’ve given me hope for America’s future–truly!
If Obama lost the presidency, the democrats want John Dean And Pelosi heads on a platter.
Hey, why can’t you suport McCain if you liked Hillary? It is a democracy, we can vote for whomever we want. They make it sound so conformed, though, if you’re a Democrat vot Democrat, it doesn’t matter who as lond as theres a D in parentheses next to his name. The thing is, it DOES matter, listen to an issue, read something, look the person up for God’s sake. It isn’t that hard! Google it if you must, you’ll eventually find something useful. Why are we constrained to one party? Is it really that shocking for a Hillary to vote McCain? I don’t know, every Democrat I know seems to think so, though.