Barack Delivers? Not!! [Updated]
By Larry Johnson on November 5, 2008 at 9:27 PM in Current Affairs
If you were banking on Barack to shake things up in Washington, forget about it. Less than 24 hours after nailling down his victory, Barack goes for old style politics in Washington. I refer of course to his latest decision to name Congressman Rahm Emmanuel as his Chief of Staff. Way to go Barack. Unlike Barack, who spoke out in opposition to the war in Iraq even before he was elected to the Senate, Rahm Emmanuel embraced the war. Back in 2002 when Barack was “showing” his political courage, Emanuel was running to replace Congressman Rod Blagojevich who was running for Governor in Illinois. According to Wikipedia:
Emanuel won the primary and easily defeated Republican candidate Mark Augusti in the general election. Emanuel supported the October 2002 joint Congressional resolution authorizing the Iraq War, differentiating himself from all nine other Democratic members of the Illinois Congressional delegation (Sen. Richard Durbin, Reps. Bobby Rush, Jesse Jackson, Jr., Bill Lipinski, Luis Gutiérrez, Danny K. Davis, Jan Schakowsky, Jerry Costello and Evans) elected in 2002.[12]
Remember, we could not trust Hillary Clinton to be President because she voted for the 2002 resolution on Iraq but by God, you can trust Rahm Emanuel, who enthusiastically embraced said resolution, to advise the President. You cannot make this shit up.
Let me put my cards on the table. I am still pissed at Emanuel for lying to my friend Jim Marcinkowski. Jim helped me defend Valerie Plame. Jim and I, along with Valerie, served together at the CIA. The New York Times wrote this about Jim in 2006:
He drew national attention in 2003 and 2005 when he testified before Congress about his friend and former C.I.A. classmate Valerie Wilson. The story of Ms. Wilson, the agent whose identity was leaked by Bush administration officials, sealed Mr. Marcinkowski’s divorce from the Republicans. He had been active in the party from the time he organized the Michigan State University campus for Ronald Reagan’s presidential campaign in 1980 but had gradually become disenchanted, particularly during the George W. Bush years.
His story — former C.I.A. officer, disaffected Republican — had great appeal to Democratic bigwigs seeking Congressional candidates. He talked to Representatives Nancy Pelosi, the House Democratic leader; Steny Hoyer, the Democratic whip; and Rahm Emanuel, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. All urged him to run, especially Mr. Emanuel, who called several times, and even shipped him a thank-you cheesecake after he had agreed to run.
Mr. Marcinkowski says everyone promised their full support.
That is absolutely true. I sat in Emanuel’s office on Capitol Hill when he pitched Jim in late 2005 to run for Congress in Michigan and promised to support him. Jim ran and Emanuel bailed on him. Did not provide a dime of support. I took a piss next to Emanuel in the offices of the Democratic National Committee. Rahm asked me, “Will he run?” And I said, “If you guys are backing him he will?” Well, Jim ran and Rahm bailed. That is what America has to look forward to.
So, why is Rahm’s inexcusable support for the war in Iraq in 2002 okay but it was disqualifying for Hillary Clinton? I guess it is just more change we are supposed to believe in. A liar who supported the war in Iraq before he was against it is now the new President’s closest advisor. Let’s face it. Barack’s first decision as President-elect is to continue the politics as usual in Washington by appointing a quintessential insider who embraced the very thing that Barack claimed should disqualify anyone to occupy the White House. A practice that he promised us he was going to do away with. He did not. First broken promise.
UPDATE–There is this news from Aaron Klein today about the reaction of Hamas to Barack’s triumph.
JERUSALEM – The Hamas terrorist group believes the election of Sen. Barack Obama is an “historic victory” for the world and an opportunity to change U.S. foreign policy toward engagement with America’s foes, Ahmed Yousef, Hamas’ chief political adviser in the Gaza Strip, told WND in an exclusive interview today.
Yousef, speaking by cell phone from Gaza, said Hamas is drafting a letter of congratulation to be sent tomorrow directly to Obama. He said the current draft of the letter praises the president-elect as “another John F. Kennedy, or great Roosevelt.”
“We want to be one of the first to congratulate him,” Yousef said.
“This is an historic day, a turning point. I think this is the very first time in history that one country’s election concerned everyone everywhere all over [the] world,” said Yousef. “Everybody is looking forward to Obama’s change, for a change in the U.S. policy, particularly in the Israeli-Palestinian equation, which is the mother of all conflicts.”
Yousef told WND he believes an Obama administration will be more willing to engage in dialogue with Hamas. He said Obama’s job will be to “restore America’s dignity in the world and put an end to the wars in the region.”
Read the rest here. I guess Hamas did not get the news that Barack bypassed Rashid Khalidi and named Rahm Emmanuel as his Chief of Staff. Rahm, true to his Washington establishment status, is not about to let Israel get sold down the river. At least that is how it looks at this point.
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Wow. Great post. Thank you, Larry. I did not remember this about Rahm.
But it is likewise amazing that some Obama supporters moved to support him because they were furious over Hillary’s IWR vote and said “they could not forgive her” but yet Colin Powell’s endorsement of Obama was hailed as a wonderful thing — even though Powell lied before the UN Security Council, the American people and Congress and got us into the war in the first place.
I guess Powell could be forgiven though huh? The ends justifies the means. Let’s see if his supporters likewise react so positively to Emanuel. I thought he was quite unpopular with the MoveOn crowd, but who knows.
Didn’t Biden vote for the IWR, too?
Remember, we could not trust Hillary Clinton to be President because she voted for the 2002 resolution on Iraq but by God, you can trust Rahm Emanuel, who enthusiastically embraced said resolution, to advise the President. You cannot make this shit up. Yes, and Biden did.
Go figure. Must be cuz Hillary is not in the boys club.
Of course, it’s the penis rule. A woman would need to be as prescient as a goddess to deserve the nomination even when she won the most votes. A man needs only have a recording of an re-enactment of an inconsequential speech to prove his good judgment. lol
Right. Hillary is a woman and so therefore she is supposed to be perfect and do everything right.
I am disgusted. All this stuff is Cloak and Dagger. Now even McCain staffers are leaking stuff about Palin that is simply impossible to believe.
Unnamed sources are saying that Palin did not know that Africa was a Continent.
Now how many National Geographic specials have you heard the phase “The Continent of Africa” or “The Dark Continent that is Africa” or the “African Continent”. How many times has Bono mentioned we need to help the starving and poverty on “The Continent of Africa”. Every child has heard this expression and has been taught that Africa is a Continent and that blacks blah bla blah.
McCain staffers are a joke. They are a bunch of hacks from the word go. Palin was the only thing that was right about the campaign. I am a repub and McCain puts me to sleep, aside from the fact that he is a RINO. I voted for him for two reasons.
1. He was not Obama
2. Palin
Hillary was the only thing that was good about the whole DNC.
Nuke both parties and start fresh with Hillary and Palin. This old boy network is pure corruption. I am a male, not a metrosexual either.
These McCain staffers are making fun of PALIN and smearing that she is stupid? Why don’t they take a friggin’ look in the GD mirror?
McCain was actually leading by a couple of points in some major polls prior to the financial crisis. When that occurred, Americans blamed Republicans in a knee jerk reaction and that anger got pushed on to McCain.
However, these campaign strategists and staffers held the key to the Whitehouse in their hand if they had only chosen to PLAY UP how JOHN MCCAIN co-sponsored legislation back in 2005 and 2006 for tighter regulation of Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac because of the profound corruption that had been found there and their role in this financial crisis. McCain was one of the few leaders in Congress to actually DO something.
Did these strategists do ANYTHING with that PROFOUND information? Xell NO.
The moment that crisis happened they should have had banners hanging at EVERY stump speech and banners held by audience members showing the quote of MCCAIN on the floor of the Senate as he fought to stave off this crisis:
“If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.” JOHN C. MCCAIN 5/25/06
HOW STUPID COULD THEY BE TO NOT ACT AND MAKE THAT A CENTRAL AND RECURRING THEME OF THE MCCAIN CAMPAIGN?!!
Instead of letting Obama get away with blaming McCain for the crisis day after day on the campaign trail – WHY DIDN’T THEY USE THE QUOTE OF JOHN MCCAIN AND THE FACT OF HIS CO-SPONSORING THE LEGISLATION TO PROVE TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC THAT HE HAD TRULY FOUGHT FOR THEM AND HAD EVEN PREDICTED THAT THIS WOULD CRISIS WOULD OCCUR IF NOT ADOPTED?!!
Barack Obama along with the overwhelming majority of Democrats voted NO on this legislation.
COMPARISON:
McCain sponsored legislation to get tighter control of FM & FMac
versus
Obama votes “NO” on legislation to get tighter control of FM & FMac
John McCain’s WISDOM vs. Barack Obama’s
“TOWING THE PARTY LINE”.
And if they had tied in all the people DIRECTLY connected to Obama’s campaign that are also linked to the sub-prime scandal(Pritzker, Raines, Johnson…ACORN) it could have EASILY thrown this country over to John McCain big time – especially the Independent vote and possibly more – all the Americans who are looking at their 401K’s saying what the H happened to my money?
So they have NO business calling Sarah Palin STUPID when they failed to act on the jewel that was sitting right in their laps.
Biden was actually instrumental in stacking the Senate Foreign Relations committee to ensure that anyone opposed to military action against Iraq (i.e, Scowcroft or Ritter) were unable to testify.
Biden didn’t want to get caught on the wrong side of the Iraq issue like he was in 90-91.
Biden was actually
instrumentala tool…His supporters won’t care, they elected American Idol.
Obama’s lies will continue to be excused because once you pick your idol, you don’t want to hear anything bad about them.
Also, if they admit he’s a liar then they have to face the fact that they were had. Nobody likes to admit they’ve been taken for a ride.
This is why the media will treat him EXTREMELY well.
he was a media creation and if he turns out to be a disaster, the media will have to shoulder responsibility. Sort of like Iraq.
I said it many times before, and I’m not the only one, but the US media lied the US into the Iraq diasster and now they’ve lied the US into a Presidential disaster.
I think the media will turn on him after a brief honeymoon period if for no other reason than that they need headlines. Our media is no longer journalism, but has become entertainment and Obama has become celebrity entertainment.
The only news that the great uunwashed masses want to read about concerning celebrities, and by extension celebrity politicians, are their scandals, so that is what will get reported. The news will turn on Obama just as it has on Bush.
As far as entertainers who try to pose as news, like Bill Maher and Jon Stewart, what will they do after Jan. 20 to keep their ratings and job? Continuing to give Obama the kid glove treatment when there is no other enemy will kill off those shows in a NY minute, so Obama must become the enemy. That’s the bitch of being #1, it’s the easiest target to hit.
exactly right! i too believe the media will turn on him quickly. bush was a member of the club after all. he is a repub.
we have an american idol/spears oriented media mentality. they have short term attention spans. they enjoy bashing dems very much and now they have another. michelle? it won’t be the time in the wh she planned all this time. i think the obamas will come to hate the place. barry will have problems all the time and michelle will be an outsider. the hoopla and adoration will go quickly. barry can’t give the obots what they want. they’ll turn on him. the far left will be sidelined. they’ll turn on him. i honestly think he’ll be delighted to leave in four years. barry is a one termer. deal with that. the repubs don’t plan for him to be there 8 years. and the dems? they aren’t disciplined and will be listening to their folks back on their butts constantly. no, i don’t see any euphoria in dc for long.
also the far left are not capable of running the country. they have outlandish ideas about things are supposed to be that can’t be translated into american life. the far right tried to get their foot in the door but were actually kept at bay. cheney didn’t represent them. he represented corporate interests. follow the money. it is the corporations that obama will answer to in the future. chiana is our debtor nation. he can’t afford to piss them off either. bill ayers? please! barry is in a vice! bush was in a vice! sure bush made some decisions but that resulted in money for corporations. the middle east was the excuse to make those decisions.
OMG! I was thinking the exact thing this morning! The dying MSM – could they have possibly promoted The One and his entourage of thugs, a likely myriad of endless investigations – just to have “exciting” and breaking news stories for the next 4 years… to increase their ratings and come back from the dead?
Is this possibly why they turned a deaf ear to all the “associations” – all the stories we knew were out there, that they dismissed or rebuked?
John McCain was too “normal” and no dirt. Too boring for the MSM to keep their sinking ships floating.
Hmmm – this is going to be a verrry interesting 4 years. I give the honeymoon less than 6 months. It will be sublime gratification to see his Majesty de-robed before the “adoring” subjects he scammed.
But, that’s the American culture. Build them up, to bring them down. Bwah-hahahahaha!!!
Get ready for Jimmy Carter part 2.
This is the truth. Give it about a year or so…as long as the Republicans hang low and keep their noses clean, the MSM media MUST come up with some sort of headlines just to exist. The gun MUST shoot, if their no other targets, then The One is it!
It’s gonna be fun!
Frankly, I’d like to see these so-called ‘comedians’ join the new long unemployment line.
They wanted 0bama, who will they make jokes about now????
The MSM will continue to actively shield Obama because if they turned critical now
1) they would show they were wrong in the first place (and expose how much was hidden from the american public)
2) they would be accused of racism (just like the rest of us)
3) they want that all important access to the one and
4) the media sees itself as having evolved from its roles as informers and educators of the public to the makers and writers of history. And they will not go back willingly to a supportive role as defenders of democracy and its citizenry. Just think of all the future book deals they would miss out on!!
Emanuel was the “inspiration” for the character of Josh on The West Wing. You may want to get up to speed.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/8091986/the_enforcer/ – 59k –
His brother, Ari, was the inspiration for Ari on Entourage. And he has a brother who is a respected physician. Not sure he inspired any fictional character yet.
House
Stop! I like House!!!! but your line is damn funny and provided my first chuckle since Tuesday ….
Obama never said he would not support Hillary because of her war vote…he disagreed with her and obviously used that as a campaign point – you do what you have to do when running a tight race. Emanuel was Hillary’s A++++ supporter…and though he knew Obama well, did not come to his side until Hillary stopped her campaign.
He never said disagreeing with the war was a pre-requisite for anything – and if he felt that way,who the hell would he bring on board? At one time or another, almost everyone was in favor of going to war.
now that the election is over, can’t you come up with some new topics? your bitterness can’t go on forever, or can it?
I have to laugh because what i really want to say is ‘try some barbeque sauce with all that crow you must be eating’ – but you guys on this blog are not even real people-so it gives me no satisfaction.
Janet
There is no bitterness but reality and we are refreshing memories of Wo’s who.
You should be celebrating. Go with your crowd.
She (if it is a she) may have simply been kicked out for not being enthusiastic enough. No foaming at the mouth. No burning of Palin or Clinton effigies being offered up.
Obama eviscerated Hillary on the basis of her Iraq war vote. So, um, you are way off base. That is pretty much HOW he won the primary, Janet. That was the whole basis for his argument. You forgot? Oh, yeah, that was several arguments ago. Barry changes his talking points as needed, depending on who he is wooing.
I agree. This was Obama’s CENTRAL TALKING POINT against Hillary. He used it as a weapon. Anyone who doesn’t know this has amnesia.
Emmanuel did not back Hillary. He has endorsed Oblah in early June, before the primaries ended.
Janet, can you possibly have a single moment of honesty in your life? Just one?
You say “Obama never said he would not support Hillary because of her war vote…he disagreed with her and obviously used that as a campaign point – you do what you have to do when running a tight race.”
Look, the entire original basis of Obama’s candidacy at the outset was his rejection of the Iraq War from the beginning, in contrast to Hillary, who voted for the AUMF. This was always — always — the point that so many self-styled progressives focused on when comparing Obama and Hillary, and rejecting her. Hillary’s vote for AUMF was the unforgivable sin, the thing that showed she too was involved in warmongering, and would not stand up to it.
To dismiss all that as just “a campaign point” is one of the most dishonest rewritings of history that I have recently encountered. I repeat: Obama’s rejection of the war was the basis of his candidacy, the argument that he made to the so-called progressive activists, and the argument that they used in turn on his behalf.
Really, you Obama supporters are simply shameless in how dishonest you will be on his behalf. Clearly, you will bargain away any principle for his sake; God only knows what it is you really believe anymore in your heart of hearts, if anything.
It’s really pretty disgusting to behold.
Yep and the constant drum beat of Barry and his followers that he “gave a speech in Chicago” opposing the war.
And, the chorus would sing…but he wasn’t in the Senate then and couldn’t vote on it! As in Hillary’s note “Senator Obama gave a speech in Chicago” that no one seems to remember,supposedly at an anti war rally.
Whenever someone would point out to Obama that he was surrounded by folks like Kennedy,
LurchKerry, Biden, et al. who had also voted in favor of the AUMF, and yet he still touted their judgment and was thrilled with their endorsement, Obama would use the excuse that their vote in favor of the AUMF was not important becuase they were not running for President, but Hillary was, so her vote could be criticised as showing a lack of judgment that should prevent her election.janet you are so far off base here, i simply don’t have the time or energy to refute all your assertions.
Sorry, “janet”, but Obama’s WHOLE raison d’être was based on his “solid” opposition to the war. From the beginning of his campaign, both Obama AND his supporters highlighted his “foresight” in “fighting against the war” (even though he was in absolutely no position to actually, you know, VOTE on the resolution–unlike Hillary, unlike Kennedy, unlike Biden).
But none of his supporters ever questioned Obama on why he didn’t fight more strongly against the war once he took his Senate seat. They never once paid any attention to the fact that his Senate record on the war was NO DIFFERENT from Hillary’s ASIDE FROM his non-existent vote on the IWR. But THAT non-existent vote was THE “crucial difference” that Obama would use to prove his superior judgment. (Again, Obama was in no position to cast a vote on the IWR, but he was perfectly happy to criticize Hillary’s and cast Hillary as a “war-monger” based on the IWR.)
If Obama’s position on the war was never a “prerequisite” in his mind, then why did Obama (and his supporters) choose THAT topic to be THE defining issue of his initial candidacy? (”Hope and change” is a motto–not an issue.)
We will continue to hold Obama to the proverbial fire (unlike the suck-ass MSM who chose to cheerlead for Obama the same way they did for Bush’s war) despite all the Obamadrones, and, um, just for the record, isn’t evidence of insanity to carry on a conversation–even a web-based one–with people who “are not even real people”? To paraphrase Carol Beer (portrayed by David Williams) from the show “Little Britain”, “computer says ‘yes’”.
Good to know.
Look like its a Chicago take over of Washington this should be real interesting in the coming months
I’m thinking they may rebuild the whitehouse in Chicago after DC is bombed.
IL, the IL government has, for all practical purposes, failed, last I read, struggling to maintain services, and budgets, remember how Rezko appointed “players,” pay to play? There is no practice of government, it’s small time hoods, skimming federal monies, IMO.
It will be no different, in Washington, the only thing unifying them is “where’s mine?” much like Cheney, and Bush, only less informed about the truth (though absent an insane world vision, FWIW).
In the meantime, REAL government must function, someone must provide the defense, and all that, and it ain’t gonna come from that crowd.
Oh, brother…
One reason I find Emmanuel reassuring is he’s not a sycophant yes-man who worships at the feet of Obama. Emmanuel supported Hillary until she conceded.
However, it’s interesting you bring up the story of him bailing on your friend. Republican Richard Pombo was looking vulnerable and Emmanuel backed this mealy-mouthed Democrat in the primary when Jerry McInerney had run two years before. McInerney won the primary over the DNC’s preferred candidate, and McInerney went on to beat Pombo. He was just reelected.
Also I believe Emmanuel encouraged the party to back anti-abortion candidates who I believe won yesterday. This I find to be a relief because I’m tired of the choice issue being tied to one party over another.
He didn’t support Eric Massa in 2006 even when third tier races were getting money. Massa just ran again and will probably win (still counting absentee ballots).
Are you sure that he supported Hillary? If memory serves, he remained neutral.
He is there to protect Barack from the many skeletons that are stuffed in the closet. He knows the Chicago stuff, he will get payback, and yes, he might leak on Barry, but he had to weigh the lesser of several evils. Hence, this pick.
Yes I am sure Rahm Emmanuel supported Hillary. Here is Ari Emmanuel (Rahm’s Obot brother) on why he didn’t trust Rahm to pick the next president http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ari-emanuel/my-brother-the-superdeleg_b_85924.html .
I stand corrected. Here is the video of his support of Hillary. Well, maybe there is hope for him. http://www.votehillary.org/CMS/Media/4-22-06RealTime/Hi.html
My mistake, he remained neutral. Maybe I was impressed with him staying neutral given that he’s from Illinois and a Pelosi ally and must have been facing enormous pressure to endorse Obama.
he totally supported Hillary…
He supported Hillary, and then was the last Illinois holdout to support Obama, reported by First Read on June 4. That should tell us something.
I don’t know he supported HRC openly.
I think he was supposed or assumed to be a HRC backer but stay as one of those “undeclared SD”.
Then, the day after the last primary (June4) before HRC announced she would make the DC speeech on Friday (when things were kind of tumultuous) I saw him on TV (Charlie Rose if memory serves me) saying:
“I called HRC and told her, I want to come out and support Obama. What do you think?”
And then said that HRC told him “Sure, go ahead”.
Emmanuel did not back Hillary. He has endorsed Oblah in early June, before the primaries ended.
He remained uncommitted util he endorsed Obama on June 4th.
None of this signifies CHANGE!!!!
Isn’t that what this man ran on???
Also I believe Emmanuel encouraged the party to back anti-abortion candidates who I believe won yesterday. This I find to be a relief because I’m tired of the choice issue being tied to one party over another.
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For the long term, this decision is a disaster.
I fail to understand why they disassociate politics from a successful US government.
This is a fatal flaw, truly fatal, easy for those to exploit who understand why it fails as political theory.
dissociate, sorry….
Not unlike , say, Biden? There’s a reason Ken “cakewalk” Adelmn endorsed Obama.
Off topic but did anyone see Joe the plumber on H&C just now? He did great! Seemed really on the ball with his responses to Colms. He also mentioned he started is own site, but I don’t remember the name. Something like save the dream dot com.
Does anyone have it?
secureourdream.com he said.
Dick Morris was talking about Emmanual on O’Reilly tonight. He said he worked with him in the Clinton white house. he is all about himself and will probably not be loyal to Obama. Also he leaks to the media. Sounds like fun. Also, I was reading earlier that his father was an Israeli terrorist in the 1930’s and 40’s. Seems he helped to blow up some buildings in Palestine and killed some Brits.
Thanks for the link!
His father was member of Igrun, a Zionist terrorist group in the 40’s.
They just keep popping up,don’t they?
FROM LARRY JOHNSON–The correct term is IRGUN
The British certainly considered Irgun a terrorist organization. And, as noted, the World Zionist Congress properly condemned their actions.
Please Jomama: don’t even go there… There is a BIG difference between Igrun and what Ayres, Hamas and other did.
Are you now attacking the Jews??? Jeez.
Um, Andy? Sorry, but I don’t see how bombing the King David Hotel is anything other than an act of terrorism. Irgun used terror tactics for political gains, and there is NO fundamental difference between that and what any other terrorist organization does. Anyone who decides that terrorism has “shades of grey” is nothing but a supporter of terrorism. Plain and simple.
These last 2 comments personify the Mid-East problem. The inability to understand that there are 2 sides to this conflict, is why we are in this situation.
This is only the beginning.
Stay tuned.
If they are fighting against the interests that you support, they are “properly” termed terrorists, while if they are fighting for the interests that you support, they are called freedom fighters. Remember the Contras ?
Yes all three Emmanuel brothers are very tough and very successful. I like that he wouldn’t be loyal to Obama.
Also Emmanuel is a realist on foreign policy not a utopianist who things Obama should sit down with freak leaders without preconditions.
Oh, so he is planning to break another promise.
emmanuel huh? i guess the guys in the internet cafe in beirut aren’t going to like that very much. as i was saying the dnc, ie pelosi/reid are securing their power. i read somewhere and sorry the whole memory cells are overloaded tonight, but that once the general election campaign stated that a lot of the aa supporters with places in the campaign were moved out of the way for the dnc reps. the new boss is the same as the old boss. don’t look for major changes.
Also Emmanuel is a realist on foreign policy not a utopianist who things Obama should sit down with freak leaders without preconditions
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He’s short sighted, if what you’re saying is true, with no greater insight as to what makes a successful, long term effort.
One simply cannot disenfranchise women, and succeed.
He will be played by both sides, those who want to capitalize on his attempts to disenfranchise women, and those who understand WHY such an approach fails.
It all comes down to understanding basic political theory, Rham, or the Obama woman hating kooks, don’t. (again, based on what I’ve read, here).
They are alrady getting bogged down in the admisntration of the corruption, aren’t they?
Certainly, an unspoken, but pertinent factor.
His father was a Zionist–there’s a difference!
“An international movement originally for the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel.” (”Zionism,” Webster’s 11th Collegiate Dictionary). See also “Zionism”, Encyclopedia Britannica, which describes it as a “Jewish nationalist movement that has had as its goal the creation and support of a Jewish national state in Palestine, the ancient homeland of the Jews (Hebrew: Eretz Yisra’el, “the Land of Israel”),” and The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition, which defines it as “A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel.”
If he’s a Zionist that’s great.
I’m a Zionist myself.
Me too !!
LJ: I hope to put a lid on the nonsense up this thread.
Impossible. Tinfoil-hattery is noquarterusa’s reason for being.
Whitey video! Rove indictment! Obama born in Kenya! In Canada! Grandmother’s impending death just a cover story for desperate trip to block noquarter investigation of birth certificate! Hiring of Emmanuel Jr. makes Obama responsible for actions of Emmanuel Sr.!
None of those things are necessarily untrue, that being said, you really don’t have an argument.
I certainly dont look to the MSM to determine my reality, it would seem there should be a way to fight other than constant attempts to discredit what may be true.
I mean, this is how Cheney and Rove lost, you understand, right?
yup, obama will have to deal with israel on the same type basis other presidents have over the years. they are our strongest partner in the middle east. they are also a nuclear power with the best military in the middle east!
of course i have wanted along with others to see a more sensible middle east policy. bush 1 had much more success and used a more even handed approach. baker was good at that!
i haven’t been pleased with the comments made by some of obama’s so called advisors about israel. it was gosh and just dumb.
This is a great story from the Chicago Tribune magazine that I remember from a couple of year’s ago. Emanuel is almost the polar opposite of Obama. His alter ego, if you will.
Enjoy: http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-rahm-emanuel,0,926311.story
That’s probably a good thing. IS he decisive? I still see bambi as indecisive.
Well that article is long but a must read……to beat em you got to know em, so read up…
Please stop the nonsense about his father being a terrorist. Are you now attacking how the State of Israel came to exist? Please. They were not Hamas nor the WeatherUnderground. Think beofre you type stupidities.
Andy’s just an apologist for terrorism.
Andy–again. Plain and simple. Terrorism is terrorism, regardless of who does it.
When one seeks to achieve a political goal and is willing to accept the murder of innocents as just a manner to achieve it, that person is a terrorist. It doesn’t matter what the person’s race, religion or nationality is–he’s a terrorist.
True.
True.
Change is coming.
Russia’s bringing “change” to Obama in January:
http://eursoc.com/news/fullstory.php/aid/2841/Obama_s_First_Test.html
I am not condoning the attack on King David and killing of civilians. I do not condone violence of the military wing of any movement. But that you fail to see the difference will soon lead you to believe that the peple that fought for the independence of this country (and of most) were all terrorists.
Hamas and Weather Undergroundplace bombs on
COUNTRIES that ARE ESTABLISHED and have a rule of law. Violence is violence but there is a difference.
I also take issue with the slippery slope of attacking Emmanuel on the grounds that he is a jew who’s the son of an orthodox jew who wa the member of Irgun.
Please. What’s next? The jews are responsible for electing Obama and what his administration does or does not?
i rather think morris thought he just might get a slot. of course he won’t. he did obama’s dirty work in kenya and is now tainted to say the least. it sounds to me like morris was describing himself.
The connection for Emanual has to be the Chicago machine. The problem Obamna has is the Chief of Staff pretty much controlls the door (except for the VP). So when Obama gets overwhelmed as he will be in a short while, Rahm will be running the domestic government. Rahm is smart – several levels of magnitude over Obama.
Why do I say he will be overwhelmed, as soon as Hillary got Obama off script in the primaries he would start stuttering. Obama is a good talker on script, but we have not seen any on the spot in depth thinking.
The Budget Director, NSC and State department appointments will tell us a lot of what the next 4 years are going to be. Why the Budget Director, because the national debt is out of control and budget is everything in terms of new programs
Some how I think Putin is going to be one of his first challenges internationally.
Nah, Russians are pretty predictable. All they probably want is to cut of Sakashvilli (which the US should because he’s a nimrod and unpopular) and ending “missile defense.”
Missile defense is probably gone, just from simple budget constraints. As for Mr. S., the US may not have to do anything because he’s going to lose his next election rather badly; inability to deal with pressing domestic issues and his badly miscalculated show of strength in Abkhazia have pretty much sealed his fate.
i would add that the russians will now show more strength on the international stage. expect that! the chinese will make their demands behind the scenes is my guess. the chinese will command and obama will have to jump. so much for ayers and the ole gang in chicago. they are so yesterday. i think it is sort of funny.
the only thing i can say is thank goodness jackson jr won’t be chief of staff. i’d be booking tickets for canada if he were.
putin? i said 8 years ago in the famous bush/putin meeting that putin as twice as smart as bush and twice as ruthless. putin bided his time and made his moves carefully and ruthlessly. hey he came up in the old soviet union. don’t forget that while we have unschooled prepies in the wh.
A day after being elected president and acknowledging “the worst financial crisis in a century,” Barack Obama asked one of the biggest recipients of Wall Street campaign contributions to be his chief of staff. Rep. Rahm Emanuel, the Illinois congressman who was an aide in the Clinton White House, was the top House recipient in the 2008 election cycle of contributions from hedge funds, private equity firms and the larger securities/investment industry–not the most popular of industries in the current economy. Since being elected to Congress in 2002, after working as an investment banker, Emanuel has received more money from individuals and PACs in the securities and investment business than any other industry.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/11/obamas-pick-for-chief-of-staff.html
Man it just does not get better than this, I really feel the American people was suckered big time.
isn’t rahm the sleazeball that helped bail out tim mahoney in florida? he just got busted for affairs/money to the women, etc. wasn’t rahm the go -between?
good lord. and did i hear kerry as sec of state????
i’m still waiting for some big exciting out-of-the-box selection…boring so far, politics as usual.
yawn
I remember someone saying that Biden was chosen as VP so that he wouldn’t force himself into the State Department.
So, considering this, Kerry ain’t that bad a choice is it?
Kerry is a walking disaster wherever he is is. Krusty the Klown would be better at State than Kerry. Kerry is the only person that can make Bush look good.
There would be no SURGE. Just a Lurch instead.
Here are a couple of Rahm Emmanuel tidbits:
Honorable Rahm Emanuel U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Financial Services Hearing on FY2004 HUD Budget March 5, 2003
I’d like to thank Chairman Oxley for holding this important hearing on the Fiscal Year 2004 HUD budget. I also appreciate that our distinguished guest, HUD Secretary Mel Martinez, has taken the time to share his views with us on this topic.
Before my election to Congress, I was fortunate to serve as Vice-Chairman of the Chicago Housing Authority and as a Freddie Mac Board member. In those capacities, I saw firsthand the teamwork between public and private entities that’s required to make affordable housing available to hardworking families. When a family is able to build equity in a home, they’ve taken the first step on the road to creating a solid financial foundation. My home city of Chicago has succeeded in developing affordable housing programs because of the commitment of the city government agencies, Mayor Daley’s office, private sector entities like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and many other state and local organizations. Programs like City Mortgage, New Homes for Chicago, HouseChicago and the Chicago Homeowners Assistance Program have been successful because of the commitment of public and private sector entities to community building. However, despite the successes we have had, much remains to be done, both in Chicago and around the country. That’s why I’m so disappointed in the Administration’s FY2004 budget proposal.
Although I disagree with many of Mr. Bush’s proposals, I’m hopeful that this hearing will be the start of a productive dialogue on affordable housing issues. We Democrats are ready to work with the Administration; but at the same time, we won’t stand idly by and allow President Bush to pull up the ladder of opportunity on our low-income families and their communities.
I’d now like to touch on a few specific concerns I have with the FY04 HUD budget:
In short, Rahm was Vice-Chairman of the Chicago Housing Authority and a Freddie Mac Board member!
And now he’s Obama’s chief of staff?
Nice to know the 700 billion dollar will be managed with Rahm’s help??
Holy cow. So it begins!
the new boss same as the old boss. the corporate boys have their watcher/manager in place now that cheney is leaving.
Oh brother, we are in deep trouble.
And Rezko was no stranger to Rahm Emanuel.
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Chicago x 100.
oops.link
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/879255,CST-NWS-rezko05.article
Hmmmm, more evidence that the Bush administration and conservatives tried to reign in the reckless liberal housing policies that led to our current economic problems. The same problems that are the primary reason Obama got elected. How ironic!
Well, it seems that we have much to look forward to. Let’s hope the test does not come too soon.
Obambi loves terrorist so nothing strange there lol
well hillary was kissing his ass and never let him out of her site until June, so is she guilty of shady associates also?
You said it and I believe it.
First broken promise.
We should start a list.
Didn’t Emanuel originally support Hillary?
Funny you should mention a list of Obama’s promises.
Today I downloaded a good solid chunk of Obama’s “issues” portion of his website. You know, where he lays out what he plans to do? Figured I’d do that before it was scrubbed. I got as much as time permitted me to get.
I would think that the Senator who only needed 143 on-the-job Senate session days to be qualified to run for President should only need around 143 on-the-job presidential days to accomplish many of those plans. Because gosh, he must be a real mover and shaker, right?
Day 143 will be: June 11th. Unlike senators, the President doesn’t get any days off.
So on June 11th, I plan to go back through all that stuff and see which of his promises he kept so far.
keep in mind…by June 11th, blowhard will already be tired of being u.s. president and will instead start campaigning for emperor of the world. our p-elect is the worst possible candidate in HISTORY.
So you mean by then he will be blaming Congress for not giving him what he asked.
Larry, who is going to call BO on his illegal campaign contributions. I have been in the industry for 22 years and he is dirty as hell!
You can’t do that! That would be racist! /snark
Stop!
That’s so over!
0bama’s days of playing the race card are kaput.
He used those babies up to achieve his goal.
He has made history.
We are living in a post-racial world as of yesterday.
Tell that to my neighbors.
Oh goodie that means we have achieved racial nirvana and can dispense with affirmative action and quotas! Hallelujah!
Not according to the blacks…now it is all about Black Power. A friend was at a show in Houston last night and all the blacks in the place were yelling Black Power at the top of the lungs. It won’t be post-racial it will be all about black power, last night was only the beginning….
Black power? Does that work with my toaster oven?
ROTFL!!!
Is that Obama’s plan for energy independence?
No, inflating your tires is the way to Energy Independence
Get wise all of you. This will be one of 0bama’s many Achilles Heels. Remember, he never promised anything to the AA community.
He exploited the desperation and ignorance of many in my community. AAs are on a honeymoon right now. And everyone knows that honeymoons have a short shelf life. If you really want to get things rolling, keep insisting on the post racial meme.
Trust me, it’s going to get very interesting. But patience is required.
I don’t know mimi:
The AA community will not turn on him at all. They will never criticize him openly in any representative way, at all.
They will swallow the complaints, disilussions and bitterness they might get from BO neglecting them, not paying attention, not providing the help they need and their issues ( here I mean a GOOD development plan, with ideas not some croocked populist welfare plan)
After all look at how he treated his constituencies in HydePark Chicago and then find me ONE of those people he neglected in rotten buildings with no heat or water that
voted but not for him. Or how many of them did not go vote for him altogether.
What say you ?
i think mimi has a point. the aa’s can very hard on their own once the are good and angry about it. i don’t see them staying quiet and being pushed to the side without some real anger. and obama will do exactly that. the dems will play the game of course but in the end there won’t be much there. obama is no johnson or clinton. obama doesn’t have an inner fire to help like say a robert kennedy. it isn’t there.
Patience is required.
You all want this to happen today. It won’t.
But if you want to accelerate it, keep insisting on the post racial meme that an AA has achieved the highest honor in this society and become POTUS. 0bama has proven that the American Dream exists if you get educated and work at it.
There are no more excuses. It’s about accountability and responsibility. 0bama has proven that if you do those things you will succeed.
Again, patience is required. If you think it will happen tomorrow, then you don’t have a clue as to what I’m saying.
AAs love a celebration and they are now focused on Inauguration Day. And, after all, Bush is still technically the president. So let them enjoy these next 90 days.
Relax and give it time.
But keep insisting on this post-racial meme.
That’s my advice. Take it or leave it.
oh maybe they think it is about black power but the real power in dc isn’t in their hands. obama is a front man and a puppet of the dnc. pelosi put her fav in there to watch over things. corporations rule! the aa’s have been had and all the hoopla from some like those in the theatre just says exactly that. they are already scaling back saying they just can’t do everything they promised because of the financial meltdown. it won’t happen. the aa’s turned on the best friend they had since johnson. shame on them. and the financial meltdown? that was played and oh so convenient. we’ve all been had!
want to bet? They’re still using it. Why would they want to give it up, it’s a great distraction from the real issue. Plus look what it gets them…The White House.
Every time Obama does something wrong it won’t be his fault, it will be some race haters fault. You already know we can’t do anything about his illegal contributions or the voting fraud that went on.
Everyone, be prepared to bend over for the next no doubt 8 years. The only way to beat him is with a better cheater. So where does that leave us?
Is Karl Rove in the house?
Yeah I guess it’d be Karl Rove, for his disciple Steve Schmidt didn’t seem to like playing rough … was dissappointed on him actually.
And set your thermostat cooler in the winter.
That must be why Rezko tenants had no heat, he was being energy efficient. Rezko wasn’t cold so it’s all good! No bill to pay. Those people without heat? Well, to keep them warm just isn’t finacially smart.
oops, this comment was to be up above with the energy plan comments! Sorry
LOL mimi.
No more benefiting from that gift?
Does this now mean that we can hang Obama in effigy and compare him to a monkey as was so often done to President Bush? I mean, all things being equal and no double standards. Hooray First Amendment. No, I guess we can’t, some people are more equal than others. Hail to our first “Sacred Cow” President.
To me, those things are silly. They were silly when done to Bush, too.
And to do all those things now will keep the focus on racism. After all, 0bama is technically only the president-elect. Why would you burn him in effigy or call him names now? He has not governed. So doing those things now would only reflect your personal antipathy for the man and not yet based in fact.
Don’t give 0bama and the AA community an excuse for any failures. Certainly not before you actually have a legitimate reason. Bush wasn’t called ‘Chimperor’ on Nov 6, 2000. He earned that moniker.
That’s why I recommend insisting on the post-racial meme. It puts the ball in the AA community’s court.
But you know, if I just wanted to call 0bama names, I’d pick donkey or jackass. He is a Dem isn’t he? And those names can’t be traced to any racist root. I’d definitely stay away from any simian analogies.
I think monkeys are cute. And it was an insult comparing them to Bush who is a ratfuck. The English language is vast. It’s not like there aren’t options.
Mimi,
I guess the nuanced concept of a double standard is lost on you, your reply and attitude could not have illustrated my point better.
Mimi,
The AA community already has an excuse for failure, slavery. Of all the race cards that get played slavery is the ultimate trump card, and it has been played countless times, even though we are about seven generations removed from the institution.
Also, my antipathy toward the man IS based in fact, a multitude of facts. I’m just getting ahead of the rush to despise him based entirely on his past activities, statements, associations, and countless lies.
I am keenly aware that the English language is vast, and your use of the word “ratfuck” certainly demonstrates your mastery of it. I’m unfortunatly not so eloquent and imaginative, at the moment I can think of no words or phrases vile enough to accurately describe how I feel about Obama.
Carol,
No one is. The FEC is a very partisan group. According to them there is really nothing they can do to trace them and address them. The DOJ won’t touch it either because there are still too many partisan appointments from the Clinton era! So no one will touch him. Newsmax hired a retired CIA operative and his company to investigate the illegal donations….they were traced to countries like Saudi Arabia, Kenya, Nigeris…just to mention three. The list is much longer.
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_illegal_donors/2008/10/29/145612.html
http://msplaceddemocrat.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/former-cia-expert-obama-took-millions-in-illegal-foreign-contributions/
navyvet48, add this to Obama and Mccain being “hacked” back in June and the FBI informing them of it, requesting they take counter measures.
The conduct of this is criminal, because the request to turn off vericaton was done to avoid compliance with the law. Why this was never investigated is wierd considering Gore was slamed by the repubs for taking contributions from China.
why carol the repubs will! they are lusting to go after obama. and it won’t be long before they do. all those questions about the whitey tape just might be answered soon. like i said i don’t think michelle will like being in the wh all that much.
“Liberals” hate Emmanuel with a passion. Right at this very second the liberal whacko-sphere is working overtime ignoring Emmanuel as obama’s Chief of Staff pick. The silence is deafening.
This isn’t the first obama kick in the teeth to the oborg but it is a big one.
They remained silent about the FISA reversal pretty much. Eventually all they are ignoring and the associated tension from bottling up will explode out and it won’t be pretty and I will be laughing my ass off!
I think the oborgs ignore abilities will be taken to the limit pretty quickly.
Of course it isn’t: we can add: voting FOR Cheney’s 2005 (secretly conceived) Energy Bill, Voting AGAINST capping the predatory rates of credit cards companies at 30%, voting to approve Gen. Casey, being the first candidate for president in modern history to decline public campaign financing, voting FOR FISA…Should I go on? Obama voted on all this issues with the Republicans. Hillary votes exactly opposite than Obama.She did teh RIGHT thing. Obama? NO. Still the left is mute. Moral ambivalence it to mild to describe the lunatic left.
Hillary hates the little ballet dancing piece of shit. He was the one who urged Bill to focus on other issues than Universal Healthcare.
And he didn’t even endorse Hillary.
Rahm’s also a partisan’s partisan. He’s going to make sure there is no bipartisanship, either you are in his book or you’re out.
BTW he’s neck deep with K Street, in fact he went to K Street during the ‘06 election and told them the Democratic party is open for business.
He endorsed Hillary, and stuck with his endorsement until she dropped out. He also delivered a hilarious roast of Obama, to his face, nailing him on his wimpiness: “Obama’s so soft that …” x, y, and z. This was WHILE Obama and Hillary were still battling it out.
I am relieved his chief of staff is not some wimpy yesman.
But I’m sad Jesse Jackson Jr. will take Obama’s senate seat. I think the Emmanuel pick is ALL about getting Jackson Jr. in that seat.
Is Jesse Jackson Jr. getting his Senate seat?
Yes, probably: Mark Halperin of Time said “what chance is there Jesse Jackson Jr. will NOT get the seat? Slim.”
well when jackson jr has to actually run for the senate seat, let’s see how the general population feels about him then. that will be interesting!
Isn’t that disgusting? the other thing I heard is that “someone senior from the IL Senate that helped and advised Obama there will be appointed by the Gov. Blagojevich to take Obama’s US Senate seat”. Anyone want to guess??
rwc, thanks for that reminder. I recall reading about that.
West Wing from the dark side.
i hate to keep writing this but the new boss is the same as the old boss. i guess that beats having ayers as our new ambassador in havana!
Anybody have a reading on how close Emanual and Pelosi were. Is he Pelosi’s inside boy?
Someone on FOX today said he was very close to Pelosi.
Even better.
I think i heard ealier he is close to her like her number 3 boy.
It just gets better every day. I live and work in Hollywood and we couldn’t MAKE this crap up. Wow. Well, Obama is at least consistent. He makes promises and pretends to be something he isn’t every single day. DC is going to be the worst version of back room FILTHY Chicago Machine Politics after January 20. And all the low life pieces of crap looking for a free ride are going to look at each other and say WTF?
Out go one group of criminal extremists and in comes another. Nice revolving door at the exec branch.
Hey, OBIAF – Do you mind if I add your VERY funny Inaugural Day Agenda to a post for tonight? With credit, of course!
Oh my God I would be honored. I actually spit that out so fast (because I am so pissed) that I was thinking I could have done more. But of course it’s all yours with my blessing.
SORRY TO BE O/T! I just wanted to try and catch you…
Thanks so much! It will be up as an Open Thread with a VERY funny bumper sticker my aunt sent – the first laugh I had today…THANK YOU!
the usual gang will be in line, ie wall street and corporations. now the aa’s and lefties will be left on the street and told not to throw their water bottles on the sidewalk! their use is at an end till 4 years from now just like the far right was used.
Rahm is a hyper partisan. Thats all the qualification that was needed. Hillary thinks highly of people like McCain. Thats what disqualified her. That and her little problem of not having a penis.
BIG QUESTION….so how do all of bo’s pro-militant, radical, islamic buddies feel about rahm????? I would think with rahm’s military and family background, they would see him as the effin’ enemy????
so isn’t blowhard pissing them off royally now???? I can’t believe him. bo just says f-u to every group that supported him.
also, pretty soon, when he’s pissed off at russia, we’ll see him giving medvedev the finger during a speech. bet the russians will like that.
Check this site out: This is something I never knew.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn/Bollyn-Emanuel.html
WHOA!
Any one took a look at the news on Drudge about New York, interesting, I tell you it wont be long before the crying starts.
NYC may soon have 15% income tax hike…
SORRY: NYC mayor says city can’t afford $400 rebates…
http://www.drudgereport.com/
Now that the “election” is over can we find better sources than Drudge?
Right on Larry. Emmanuel is a thug, untrustworthy and more of the same DC politics. Another interesting story I recently read about Emmanuel makes me wonder about his anger issues. After Clinton was elected a group of his White House insiders went to dinner at a posh restaurant….Emmanuel stood up with a steak knife in his hand naming each person that had stabbed Clinton in the back saying we will get back at them and then stabbing the knife into the table until he named all the names.
Not just same old politics but thuggogracy too right in our White House…
and we have more problems lurking on the horizon and Obama is just president elect:
http://msplaceddemocrat.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/iranophobia-may-be-ending-with-a-new-security-agreement/
Obama has no new plans for the region because he is using advisers with the same ideas as Bush…Israel is screwed and the US right along with them!
Hmmmm. I kind of like that story. I want to see how that one ends. I think we know who the biggest Hillary backstabber is.
POSTED ON Hillary is 44:
rickya Says:
November 5th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
In a previous post, I have enumerated the many advantages that Obama enjoyed unfairly during this election cycle. I’ll repost them here to make a point:
1. Biased Media
This is his biggest advantage because every other advantage Obama had was anchored on it. His weaknesses were downplayed, his strengths mythologized, his opponent’s weaknesses magnified and his opponent’s strengths caricatured. Any potentially explosive clips or videos are buried while his opponents are thoroughly attacked. The mainstream media has served as his most effective PR firm/attack dog. In fact, with this, he doesn’t even need to place ads. The MSM is doing it all for him.
2. Economic Meltdown
This was what changed the direction of the game. In the beginning of the race, McCain started behind but was able to catch up and take the lead. In past races, that trend could have propelled McCain to a victory. It was the economic meltdown that stopped his momentum and completely reversed the trend. Note that at any other time, an economic meltdown would not have helped Obama. Had it happened in the primaries, Hillary would have clobbered him despite his advantages. Had it happened after the elections, it wouldn’t have mattered.
3. An unpopular incumbent
This president has lower approval ratings than Nixon. The hatred of Bush has so solidified that no known democrat could have lost against any republican. Only Obama was vulnerable despite his advantages because he is such a lightweight.
4. Race
The historic nature of his candidacy has helped him generate excitement that no other narrative can match. It is to the Republicans’ credit that they were able to match the mythos surrounding Obama with McCain’s heroic past. Because of the historical nature of his candidacy, his inexperience and naivete was largely ignored. It also lead to race-baiting where all criticism of Obama was painted as racist.
5. Misogyny
In a stroke of political genius, McCain solidified his base by getting Sarah Palin as his running mate. This served the double purpose of highlighting Obama’s inexperience while attempting to capture disaffected democrats. Misogyny aided by an unresponsive MSM reared its ugly head and it helped damp enthusiasm for Sarah Palin. Misogyny also helped Obama win the Democratic nomination.
6. Financial Advantage
By circumventing election laws, the Obama campaign managed to maintain and increase its financial advantage throughout the campaign. For McCain, a biased media and Obama’s illicit financial advantage was just a fatal combination.
Does this mean that Obama is not a Communist? This is not a snark, I really am not sure if he is a socialist, or merely used them. If he is a Black Nationalist or simply used them? I am beginning to get the picture that he is merely an opportunist and a puppet of Pelosi. That was always one of my choices. So much for democracy. As a daughter of Baltimore, where Pelosi’s father (a former mayor ) is revered, I am not so surprised.
Read Emmanuel very good friends with Axelrod, believe it was Newsweek and earlier read the following from 2005:
Most clear-minded observers would agree that among the mortal body blows that have brought the Democrats to their present ebb, the passage of NAFTA in 1993, with consequent evisceration of the American industrial economy, must count as among the most lethal.
Key to that passage was Emmanuel, who directed the Clinton White House operation to get the treaty passed by any means necessary.
Most clear-minded observers would agree that among the mortal body blows that have brought the Democrats to their present ebb, the passage of NAFTA in 1993
Myth.
From reich no friend of the Clintons:
When NAFTA took effect, Ohio had 990,000 manufacturing jobs. Two years later, in 1996, it had 1,300,000 manufacturing jobs. The number stayed above a million for the rest of the 1990s. Today, though, there are about 775,000 manufacturing jobs in Ohio. What happened? The economy expanded briskly through the 1990s. Then it crashed in late 2000, and the manufacturing jobs lost in that last recession never came back. They didn’t come back for two reasons: In some cases, employers automated the jobs out of existence, using robots and computers. In other cases, employers shipped the jobs abroad, mostly to China – not to Mexico.
robertreich.blogspot.com/2008/02/hillary-and-barack-afta-nafta.html
A huge number of jobs were created during the Clinton years.
That’s part of the reason HRC doesn’t trust (like?) Emmanuel much: Nafta and Health care.
Reality bites:
Karzai demands Obama end civilian deaths
WECH BAGHTU, Afghanistan – The Afghan president congratulated Barack Obama and called on him Wednesday to halt civilian casualties as villagers said U.S. warplanes bombed a wedding party, killing 37 people — most of them children.
President Hamid Karzai said airstrikes cannot win the fight against terrorism.
“Our demand is that there will be no civilian casualties in Afghanistan. We cannot win the fight against terrorism with airstrikes,” Karzai said. “This is my first demand of the new president of the United States — to put an end to civilian casualties.”
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081105/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan
Is GITMO closed yet? Are troops on their way out of Iraq yet? Anything happening with health care? Middle class taxes start when?
Prediction: A year from Jan. 20th 2009 obama will still be putting committes together to study those issues.
OMG he is going to be taking a lot of vacations from this stress. He is not a multitasker.
When is Granny`s funeral ?
Excuse me? What kind of classless comment is this?
It’s Ok. BOBO doesn’t know either.
WTF is it with world leader making demands on Obama? One day after the election and the orders are already coming in. World leaders must really see Obama as a wanker. No respect whatsoever.
Three members of my family told me they voted for Obama because we would be respected again in other countries.
Maybe that is so with the masses, but the leaders see Obama as:
Naive: France
Weak: Russia
Dangrous: Ukraine
Manchurian Candidate: Isreal
Protectionist: Canada
Pushover: Mexico
If you are a foreign leader and you want to roll our new president, please take a number and wait your turn.
God that’s exactly why I was uncomfortable with voting for him for that reason. I’m starting to appreciate Bush for not caring what people think.
Good Post larry..
I didnt know that you and your Friends got the WORM BURN..from ROHM Immanuel…
I went to Wikipedia and read His Bio…Fascinating…especially his background..and that of His Dad when His dad belonged to a Militant Group in Jersualem in the Year Days of Isreal..when
The Militant Isreals were even killing the British..and Not Just Palestenians…
I Highly recommen everyone who wants some serious, Important Background go read about Rahm Immanuel and His Family Background..
No Wonder RAHM Voted for the war…It appears some Americans and American Politicians Loyalty seems to go beyond the shores of the United states from time to time..
Shame on Them..
Read the Wikipedia article and figure it out..
Thanks Larry
Patrick Henry:
What do you mean? Are you insinuating here that it is the jews and Israel’s fault that there was a war in Iraq???
C’m on…
Put an end to the SCUD Missle attacks and any other “WMD” Threst didn’t it…Got the Americans bogged down in the middle east..for an Extended time..
If we had gotten OSAMA ..we would have been gone a long time ago..
Who is Pushing us to take Out Iran before we leave..?
I am not Happy about this…
Back in the Vault…
Nooooooooo!
Not the Vault! It’s dark in there.
What a marketing Boon OBL is. I swear in some “cave” he is plotting… but these folks coming down the pipe, are the reason Clarke “had his hair on fire”.
OT and I know that the writers don’t like that but I didn’t see a current open blog:
Just wanted everyone who didn’t see it to look out for the new South Park. Very Very funny. Its about the election and was just on but I now they run it again and again.
Sorry again for the OT!
Hey, if you don’t announce it as off topic, no one ever knows. Just make a feeble effort to link it to the subject, like everybody else.
Also from the book of Commenting Etiquette:
If a post is over an hour old consider it an open thread.
[And I have the only copy of that book. Just so ya know.]
Thanks!
Did Ann Landers write the forward?
Oh I forgot that was Obama writng one for Ayers.
As Mr. Johnson said to end his last post….Stay tuned.
The hire of Emanuel is akin to Bush hiring Tom DeLay to be Chief of Staff. The man is brutally partisan and ultra-aggressive to perceived enemies and all but the most ring-kissing of sycophants.
That’s not exactly the hire of a “uniter.” Of course, in the afterglow from Tuesday no one is going to be critical of the Obama choice.
Havent You Heard…?? Obamas Computers were hacked by a Foreign Government..he has already been Compromised..
And they thought only gullible Americans would look at his hopey dopey plans.
Aawww.
Wonder if they caught the Anti Semitic pages.
Nothing like nic’in a few laptops either.
I know it’s axiomatic that Politicians make promises they cant keep when they run for office.
I think Obama’s entire campaign has been one giant lie.
Did Obama reveal that he wanted to do redistribution when he was in the Primaries?
All I can remember about the Primaries was that Obama was going to be Mr. Rule From the Center.
The Respectful Post-Partisan Candidate
Did he say things like massive tax increase for the “rich”
Or Tax Credits for the entire tax base?
Or pricing coal out of business?
The way I see it, he ran as Mr. Platitude in the Primaries to get hippy dippy Democrats to select him
Then after getting the nomination, he started to unviel his Communistic economic policy.
while at the same time behaving nothing like the candidate he said he was going to be.
You noticed that, too?
Emanuel is a Clinton supporter and a centrist Democrat. I’ll believe it when I see it.
Thats what the Media is starting to Say…They let Bush hang Himself first..The media even Provided the Rope..
Spectaculars Sell..
Its another OJ Moment
They let Bush hang Himself first..???
In regard to Rahm Emanuel?
Yes Hope..
I look at the Media”s role in everything..I saw mit during Nam and the 60s…
They did nothing to HelpPrevent 9/11..when they could have done some good Objective reporting..when the dems were putting up The Fences and destorying Our intel Agencys..
They did nothing to Turn Public opinion against the invasion of Iaq or question the Bush Administration or the Intel..
They LET it Happen…They gave Bush his Rope..and Created the EVENT..
They have done the same with this Election…and ignored Obamas background…His associates ..His Core beliefs Nor VETTED His Associates like Axelonod and RAH..
They Gave OBAMA a FREE Ride..and FREE Media Ticket…
Most people who understand how things work..Know what the media has done and is doing..
Rich Guys buy Networks and use them to Spread Propoganda and Influence public Opinion..
Read a book Called “THE SPIKE’ sometime..
Maybe give them enough rope — when one is corrupt, or considers oneself (incorrectly) a genius, one inevitably hangs oneself, by doing the wrong thing.
So, you know, you start out with perfect, untouched power, say, what’s your first decision?
And if it’s the wrong one, you’re screwed.
Problem is, some think Obama’s electoral tactics/Rezko connections were his first mistake, meaning his boat has already sunk.
The idea he, like Cheney/Bush, will continue a fatally flawed “permanent campaign” through the Presidency is mistake number two.
It will be a PR operation, as opposed to a Presidency, he will operate to push any agenda through in the same manner Cheney did, old hat, you know, just like those before him, just another failed command, so to speak.
But maybe not, he still has time to do the right thing, problem is, again, they have no clue how to govern utilizing successful political theory, they only “do” permanent campaign.
And that, well, has already failed, though they don’t understand it.
Betty Lou..
I really think its out of obamas Hands now..He has to Depend on His “CORE”..They will keep shaping him..because he has “Itchy Ears”..and runs from mentor to Mentor..
I think World Events and Global Economy wil mGive his his madate and Forge his Future..
We are beyond The Idealism of our Founding farhers..
Just think about all the Global news..The International markets..The Financial Crisis..The international appeal already to “OOOBAAAMAAA” to forge a plan of salvation..
You have heard about GLOBALIZATION..
NOW you got it..
NWO Indeed..
The Pump is Primed..
Oh yeah, and Rahm was Vice-Chairman of the Chicago Housing Authority and a Freddie Mac Board member too.
You know, those folks that got us into the whole 700 billion dollar bailout thingy.
Oh I just read in Wikipedia that his mentor is Richard Daley of Chicago – I guess that explains it.
Now that Obama and his followers have won, I wonder if they will start showing some responsibility and social class now that they have power.
Maybe this is a good start…
http://sgsnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/pants_billboard540.jpg
ITA!
This AA is pushing the post-racial meme. Racism is dead! Time for AA youth to get educated and get their act together.
Now that they have won there is no reason to rebel.
Time for them to impress us so that we will support them next time.
Eating their own:
Waxman working to oust Dingell
Just hours after Democrats celebrated an expanded majority in the House of Representatives, a public fight erupted for the leadership of a key committee charged with enacting many of President-elect Barack Obama’s agenda items.
House Government Reform Committee Chairman Henry Waxman, D-Ca, is challenging Michigan Democratic Congressman John Dingell for the chairmanship of the powerful Energy and Commerce committee.
…
Jodi Seth, Dingell’s spokeswoman at the committee, criticized Waxman’s move.
“This is unhealthy, and does not benefit the party in any way. Tearing a leadership apart is something the Republicans should be doing after their big loss; it shouldn’t be the first order of business for the Democrats after a historic election,” Seth said.
politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/waxman-working-to-oust-dingell/
dingel is a big friend of the auto biz and waxman isn’t. I wonder what the poor slubs at the UAW think of their obama endorsment now.
LMAO. He’s playing the race card perhaps? Sorry, that’s only reserved for use by Baby Opampers.
I saw this on drudge (ugh) : facebook group for Impeach Barack Obama. I joined just for fun.
Saw this on FoxNews: check out those crazy kids waving the communist flag… aren’t they cute, mom and dad would be so proud… I can hear those kids now, oh and btw mom, dad can you send me some money?
Are they college age kids? Their parents should do us all a favor: immediately cut these Bots off financially. Wonder which flag they would be waving then.
According to fox they were washington university? I agree how long would they wave that flag if mommy and daddy cut them off. I teach at a high school and kids there are screamin about how wonderful obama is, when you ask why, its because he’s black, and these kids are all latino. They don’t know anything about the One only that he is black, and they feel entitled now and they are very bold about it.
I don’t know much about Emanuel. But one of my main concerns about a BO admin is that I felt he would not be a friend of Israel.
But with Emanuel on board can it be that bad? I’m looking for a silver lining here guys.
Sorry, morally bankrupt and can’t afford silver.
Emanuel would be good, but does he want the job? I heard he hasn’t accepted yet.
Obama’s people leak this to the press to pressure Emanuel to accept. Remember they did this to Hillary in the primaries – oh Hillary dropped out. Uh, no she didn’t.
The best thing about the Emanuel pick is the “well educated” “creative” class, ya know obama’s base, hates Emanuel.
We gave up our brie and chardonnay money so obama could pick the most hated Emanuel? I think not [drops monocle]
No he has accepted….
Can’t wait to see the rest of his picks…have to tell you all this one….a realtor, in Tallahassee, Fl. had 20 apt units that he had to collect rent from today and six of those apt. renters did not pay rent. They told him that they did not have to pay anymore because Obama won last night….they really do believe they do not have to pay anymore….
LMAO. They can tell that to the sheriff after they padlock the apartments.
Come on. Do you have a link?
My mother in Dallas heard the same thing at the Grocery Store. Two AA women in line saying they were so glad that they would never have to work again and they could spend their days at SPAS getting massages and then shop at Nieman Marcus like the rich white bitches.
I can’t WAIT until Obama is held accountable for what he has promised these poor people. Like that woman in the youtube video who also said she would not have to work anymore or pay her mortgage or for gas. WTF?
Look at the bright side, above their was a snarkingly brillaint comment mentioning the now post-racial world and I said:
And now David Duke can run for president, as attending a racist church for 20 years is not only excusable in the post-racial world, it is desirable!
I think race-based affirmative action is perpetuating racism. We really should end it. Besides, now colledges freak out when they’re not diverse enough and take matters into their own hands and recruit. UC Berkeley is so largely Asian-American and very boring (not to stereotype against Asians, just saying the mono-ethnicity is boring.)
This must be a joke right?
Rahm Emanuel.
The world is curious.
The democratic money man. Probably a significant factor in Obama’s prodigious money raising feats after Hillery dropped out.
Rahm had a mixed reception on the KOS boards back in 2006. Seems as though his support for the War left some unimpressed. The upshot was that he was viewed as something of a necessary evil. My understanding was that he also holds (held?) dual citizenship.
Don’t know what those blogs are saying now. Maybe some reader can enlighten us on their going ons.
Look at the bright side: one less moron in Congress.
Do you think they will find an HONEST DEM there in Illinois to replace him? hahahahahahahah Second laugh of my day
Another Stinky Can of Worms…Chicago Brand..
I agree completely. I remember the twosome providing those assurances after begging to run. Using moneys to choose the more hawkish candidates in the primary, which should NEVER have happened.
Chuckles Schumer was his soul mate from the Senate. He too did that. They both worked to take out major Paul Hackett from Cinci. After Reid, Schumer BEGGED Paul to run, after being the closest to win the Special Election to fill Rob Portmans seat, after just returning from a tour in Iraq, in many decades. When he lost, with no time off, he took their request, even phone calls to his wife Suzi to force Paul to run. Then Sherrod Brown from the House, changed his mind when he saw Paul was already polling strong and felt he too would have a chance. And within 2 months of saying he would not run, he ran and Schumer and others cut off Paul, had House reps all the way to California calling his donors to give to Brown instead.
Rahm got behind that effort too. They spread rumors that they had pictures of Major Paul Hackett “doing things with the dead bodies in Iraq”. No lie. Then the capper, they had Mayor Mallory release a statement to the press saying he was happy Paul Hackett dropped out of the race and leave the field to Sherrod Brown. Paul had NOT dropped out when Mayor Mallory gave that press relase.
They are the most underhanded, to the people who served this country the most, makes them the lowest.
I should add however, that it seems Paul may have taken cues from them. To my major disappointment, this year he posted a diary on the Orange fart, Dailykos, and promoted making any claim against Sarah Palin in order to win Ohio. He talked about spreading rumors of affairs, etc.
To my major disappointment, he did and promoted the lowest form of politics, just like Rahm and Barry.
See, evil begets evil.
wow – where have we heard that tactic used before.
The puzzle pieces are coming together so nicely now.
Something tells me that the next four years is going to make this blog very popular.
You too, eh?
When I heard about this I just saw another thug from Chicago hanging out.
The expectations are going to be dropping like a stone…by the time this fraud is inaugurated, where will all the HOPE be
They should be, considering the scary mindless actions these promoters sounded like. They made the Bush supporters sound-sound minded. And that’s scary.
Yes. We should all donate to No Quarter!
O/T
I have a new plan of attack with Obama supporters. I am often accused of being brainwashed into “internet rumors” by republicans if I mention Ayers, Rezko, etc. From now on, when they mention That One for any reason, I am going to say, “Stop listening to those internet rumors. Obama President? sheesh. You are so gullible! Mccain’s really the President dumbass!” I may even add. “FOX declared for McCain. Mccain is President. You must have been watching MSNBC. They declared it for Obama, but it was a November fool’s day joke! Sheesh!And Olbermann got fired for that”
Barack Delivers?
I’ll take a peperoni pizza with extra cheese! Does he take debit cards?
*chuckle*
I like Rahm. The man sends dead birds to his political opponents.
Yeah, well, some people I know send dead bodies to their opponents…
(I’m kidding, I thought we were in search of a pair and a brain…
Btw, it doesn’t work, acts of violence, that is, in the end, you have to game the theory, or the thinking, that makes them send dead bodies, or dead birds.)
When Barky calls for the readiness of his civilian military; I am going to tell him that I did not vote for him, so I am exempt…just fill me in with one of your multiple voters
Or a dead voter. They take orders and never complain!
ANd the WHitey tape is where?
we were asking the same question about the forth amendment.
check your hiney; thought I saw it hanging out…
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY A CONCESSION SPEECH WRENCHED MORE HEARTS THAN THE ACCEPTANCE SPEECH. WHAT A GREAT MAN ! IT IS WONDERFUL TO HAVE KNOWN THE MAN EVEN THOUGH IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT WE DID NOT GET TO KNOW HIM AS PRESIDENT.
ATRUE MAVERICK A TRUE HUMAN BEING. THEY DO NOT MAKE THE LIKE OF HIM ANYMORE!!
GOD BLESS HIM AND GOD BLESS AMERICA.
Thank you. True words spoken.
You are so right, Kukki..I would like to be a little mouse to hear the conversation between Hill and Mac when they are back in the Senate…
As a President elect, Barky will now be briefed with very secret info; wonder how fast he has dinner with his kooky friends to tell them what he is learning
Have you thought about how Obama is going to learn and retain any of the briefings; he cannot even remember what the hell state he is in…he was in Jacksonville, Fl last week and said, Hello, Ohio…this is going to be a nightmare…..
If Rahm Emmanuel can keep Obama from throwing Israel under the bus, isn’t that a good thing?
Obama’s President buddy. i think he tells Rahm what to do, not vice versa.
Yes, it is a good thing not to throw Israel under the bus.
Larry –
I didn’t know about that JUDAS betrayal so thanks for illuminating. At this point, I figured anyone chosen by OBAMA has to be morally corrupt, and now, with this post, I see that my assumption was correct.
I’ve seen this happen to my brother in his career – it ended up changing his ENTIRE life …not for the better either – career wise.
But, I was thinking…Emmanuel SCREWED over your & Valerie’s friend, Marcinkowski, after begging him to run for Congress…it’s probably only a matter of time before he SCREWS over OBAMA as well…people like that don’t change their colors, so it’s only fitting that OBAMA choose him – birds of a feather flock together.
Hey Ai1een:
You know I don’t know if Emmanuel will scrw Obama; their Chicago tie run deep and I herad they are “very much alike” and close friends. Part of BO’s rationale for selecting him wa sthat he “knew Emmanuel wll watch his (BO’s) back” Sounds to me Emmanuel will act as a vindictive and ruthless body guard (mafia type).
It is really difficult for ordinary people to come to a conclusion about some of these events. First, there is so much conflicting information. And, secondly, the newsmakers and newsbroadcasters often deliberately try to confuse people.
I remember hearing in the past that Rahm Emmanuel was fired by, or at least not on good terms, with Hillary Clinton, but on good terms with President Clinton. Also, that Emmanual helped arrange the Oslo? Peace Accords with Itzhak Rabin, who was assassinated and out of favor with the more zealous Israelis. That makes Emmanuel look good.
But his Wikipedia bio certainly suggests that he may have divided loyalties. And if he is somebody whose word is not dependable, then that is not good. But then, if he is somebody with influence in a hot zone and his past record supports peace, then he is good and his wikipedia bio can be taken with a grain of salt.
Whatever, he and his fellow schemers should have been and should in the future be more respectful of Hillary Clinton. I expect to see Hillary wield some powerful influence in this administration, Mr Emmanuel and friends. WE WILL BE WATCHING CLOSELY.
Is this an example of how a “leak” first gets out in Washington?
Larry, thank you for the reminder that Emanuel’s number one priority is himself — always. I was proud to have worked for Jim Marcinkowski in 2006, and it was disgusting to see how fast RE broke his promises. It was even worse to see how the guy behaved when Jim called him on it.
Today’s NY Times had an article on Rahm & how he’s changed: apparently, “he’s grown a lot,” and “He’s very self-aware.” I don’t buy a word of it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/06/us/politics/06rahm.html?ref=todayspaper
I was speaking with a friend of mine last night who is an avid Obama supporter. She asked me how I felt about our new president. My answer, “Hes not my president!” I then asked her what he had said or done to make people act the way the do towards him. She told me, “He give me hope of change.” I was in disbelief. I said to her, You based your vote on Hope? Did you not look at the issues of this candadite. And what change? How is selecting Raul Emanual Change? Its the same old, same old.” My friend had not even listend to the news. She also made every excuse possible for Obama and his actions.
What shocked me the most is that she says now she has hope. Hope for what? That she could not answer.
Obama definitly brain washed these individuals. She even believes he should not have to show his BC, even though she has show hers to to get a DL.
I was humored at least by her comments, but I gave her a piece of my mind. I also told her to go educate herself on the constitution and she will see that she has been lied to. I doubt she will do it though since now she has hope and change on her side.
we can only hope the left wing nuts are disappointed. While I consider myself progressive, I think there are a lot of economic, trade, union, educational (tenure) issues that I’m a lot more center-right on and I think Obama is not going to go completely socialist radical on us.
Let’s all hope in a year move on and daily kos is saying, he’s just another Clinton (without impeachment)
Rahm Emanuel is quintessential DLC, the DU/Daily Kos bogeyman. It will be gratifying to watch Obama empty his bladder all over Daily Kos. What was Kos saying just two weeks ago about a “radically different government?” It’s so laughable, they actually believed that would happen.
They don’t have a clue how it works, they don’t have a clue they’re just like Cheney, and Rove, who were soundly defeated, their only weapons delusional grandiosity coupled with pretensions toward intellectualism.
They don’t know a thing about American democracy, do they?
They can’t even understand their weaknesses, see outside their own heads.
Millions have been duped by a sham candidate. Time will balance this all back out and Obama and Co will be on the run from angry voters.
What has changed? NOTHING!!!
Obama the illegal born in kenya and his black widow paid for this election. We will now boycott all media stations, abc/cbs/msnbc/nbc/ cnn .
I got this in my e mail and it’s a perfect plan to prepare for what’s coming:
Dear Fellow Business Owners:
>>
>> As a business owner who employs 120 people, we have resigned ourselves to
>> the fact that Barack Obama will be our next president, and that our taxes
>> and fees will go up in a BIG way.
>>
>> To compensate for these increases, we figure that the Customer will have
>> to
>> see an increase in our fees to them of about 8-10%. We will also have to
>> lay off 25 of our employees. This really bothered us as we believe we are
>> family here and didn’t know how to choose who will have to go. So, this
>> is
>> what we did.
>>
>> We strolled thru the parking lot and found twenty Obama bumper stickers
>> on
>> our employees cars. We have decided these folks will be the first to be
>> laid off.
>>
>> We can’t think of another fair way to approach this problem. If you have
>> a
>> better idea, let me know.
>>
>> We are sending this letter to all business owners that we know.
>> All stocks, bonds are sold today, cleared out 401k and bank accounts except for bare minium. Flags at half staff , it’s a sad time for America when some one Like Obama can Buy an election. And he isn’t even an American Citizen
Just Pray, alot we will need it to protect us from the Evils of the illegal muslim and the black widow. We see the greatest depression this nation has ever seen within two years or sooner.
Pray that god will help us get thru this and that he Evil & black widow are not allowed to destroy all of us and America