Post Election Quibbles and Bits
By LisaB on November 5, 2008 at 5:20 PM in Barack Obama, Campaign promises, Chicago politics, Civil Rights, Current Affairs, Cyber Attacks, Democratic Party, Emil Jones, Equal Pay, Gender Bias, General Election, Iraq, Jesse Jackson Jr., Media Bias, Misogyny, NATO, National Security, Qualifications, Race, Race Card, Russia, Sexism, Soldiers/Veterans
Well, the election is over and we all need to figure out next steps. However, while we indulge in mulling, there’s stuff going on. Do you know where one of the “front lines” is in international war / finance / fraud? Computers. At least Obama now knows this first hand.
1)The computer systems of both the Obama and McCain campaigns were victims of a sophisticated cyberattack by an unknown “foreign entity,” prompting a federal investigation, NEWSWEEK reports today.
At the Obama headquarters in midsummer, technology experts detected what they initially thought was a computer virus—a case of “phishing,” a form of hacking often employed to steal passwords or credit-card numbers. But by the next day, both the FBI and the Secret Service came to the campaign with an ominous warning: “You have a problem way bigger than what you understand,” an agent told Obama’s team. “You have been compromised, and a serious amount of files have been loaded off your system.” The following day, Obama campaign chief David Plouffe heard from White House chief of staff Josh Bolten, to the same effect: “You have a real problem … and you have to deal with it.”
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Officials at the FBI and the White House told the Obama campaign that they believed a foreign entity or organization sought to gather information on the evolution of both camps’ policy positions—information that might be useful in negotiations with a future administration. The Feds assured the Obama team that it had not been hacked by its political opponents. (Obama technical experts later speculated that the hackers were Russian or Chinese.) A security firm retained by the Obama campaign took steps to secure its computer system and end the intrusion. White House and FBI officials had no comment earlier this week.
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Nothing like being a victim to alert a person to the danger. I wonder if any technology-related policies will benefit from Obama’s victimization.
2)Meanwhile, in Russia, things are heating up. Foxnews has a piece about Russian President Medvedev “sending a signal” to the US.
Russia will deploy missiles near NATO member Poland in response to U.S. missile defense plans, President Dmitry Medvedev said Wednesday in his first state of the nation speech.
Medvedev also singled out the United States for criticism, casting Russia’s war with Georgia in August and the global financial turmoil as consequences of aggressive, selfish U.S. policies.
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Speaking just hours after Obama was declared the victor in the U.S. presidential election, Medvedev said he hoped the incoming administration will take steps to improve badly damaged U.S. ties with Russia. He suggested it is up to the U.S. — not the Kremlin — to seek to improve relations.
“I stress that we have no problem with the American people, no inborn anti-Americanism. And we hope that our partners, the U.S. administration, will make a choice in favor of full-fledged relations with Russia,” Medvedev said.
Well, here we go. A Russian demand for a new American President to kiss some butt. Hmmmmm.
3)In the most thoughtful piece I’ve seen on the racial aspect of a President Obama, Shelby Steele talks a bit about what Obama implicitly promised and what he may not be able to deliver. From LAT.
[Obama's] talent was to project an idealized vision of a post-racial America — and then to have that vision define political decency. Thus, a failure to support Obama politically implied a failure of decency.
Obama’s special charisma — since his famous 2004 convention speech — always came much more from the racial idealism he embodied than from his political ideas. In fact, this was his only true political originality. On the level of public policy, he was quite unremarkable. His economics were the redistributive axioms of old-fashioned Keynesianism; his social thought was recycled Great Society. But all this policy boilerplate was freshened up — given an air of “change” — by the dreamy post-racial and post-ideological kitsch he dressed it in.
This worked politically for Obama because it tapped into a deep longing in American life — the longing on the part of whites to escape the stigma of racism. In running for the presidency — and presenting himself to a majority white nation — Obama knew intuitively that he was dealing with a stigmatized people. He knew whites were stigmatized as being prejudiced, and that they hated this situation and literally longed for ways to disprove the stigma.
——————–Of course, it is true that white America has made great progress in curbing racism over the last 40 years.
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It is exactly because America has made such dramatic racial progress that whites today chafe so under the racist stigma. So I don’t think whites really want change from Obama as much as they want documentation of change that has already occurred. They want him in the White House first of all as evidence, certification and recognition.But there is an inherent contradiction in all this. When whites — especially today’s younger generation — proudly support Obama for his post-racialism, they unwittingly embrace race as their primary motivation. They think and act racially, not post-racially. The point is that a post-racial society is a bargainer’s ploy: It seduces whites with a vision of their racial innocence precisely to coerce them into acting out of a racial motivation. A real post-racialist could not be bargained with and would not care about displaying or documenting his racial innocence. Such a person would evaluate Obama politically rather than culturally.
On the nose. Particularly that last part. Although many people would not feel the same, I can say that this election has pretty much cured me of any need to seek “racial innocence.” While many blacks have often said they felt constrained not to make whites feel “threatened” by their presence, I think whites could respond that they often felt constrained to project “I’m not racist” at every opportunity.
However, I’m not doing it anymore. I’ll be polite to people, not wishing to give offense and just hoping to get along - same as ever. But I’m not going to worry if someone perceives me as a racist because I looked at them too long or noticed what was in their grocery cart or any of a thousand things you do when you interact others. I’m done with that.
But what about how Obama will transform our culture? What does Steele say?
There is nothing to suggest that Obama will lead America into true post-racialism. His campaign style revealed a tweaker of the status quo, not a revolutionary. Culturally and racially, he is likely to leave America pretty much where he found her.
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Presidents follow the culture; they don’t lead it. I hope for a competent president.
Yeah. I completely agree. All I ever wanted was competence.
4)The Orlando-Sentinel had an interesting and yet ridiculous piece today. Obama won because of black athletes. Seriously.
If you’re searching for tangible reasons why it became possible for Barack Obama to make his historic run at the presidency of the United States, then look no further than the golf course, basketball court or football field.
Obama may have emerged from the partisan political arena, but it was the nonpartisan athletic arena that opened white America’s eyes and minds to the amazing potential and personalities of black America.
OK, you can make a case for any barrier-breaker, no doubt about that. But to suggest that black athletes who excel in the ruthless meritocracy that is sports today somehow are the forerunners of a man elected despite a lack of experience is not a very good argument, IMO. Seeing Michael Jordan play basketball or Lynn Swan play football is to see a truly expert individual. Simply put, you don’t play if you don’t have the chops.
But to suggest a presidential campaign reflects meritocracy is absurd. It reflects many things, but not necessarily merit. These athletes will be out on their butts as soon as they can’t perform. Anyone honestly think THAT will happen to BO? Has it yet?
5)Who should get Obama’s Senate seat? An AA of course. I’m seriously doubting any white people need apply, but let’s look at the contenders. From Newser is a Time piece on who could fill that seat.
As confidence grew in recent weeks that Barack Obama would be the next President of the United States, a battle intensified among various Illinois politicos to fill his Senate seat. Although a number of local leaders have publicly expressed interest in the position, the decision on who will complete the roughly two years remaining in Obama’s Senate term ultimately rests with Illinois’ governor, Rod Blagojevich, a Democrat and former congressman. . .
—————Identity politics may play a major part in Blagojevich’s decision. Observers believe the governor may feel compelled to appease two of his core constituencies — women, and blacks, particularly from his native Chicago area — that could prove crucial to his prospects should he seek reelection in 2010. He may feel extra pressure to replace the Senate’s only black member with another African-American. One of the names most frequently mentioned here is Jesse Jackson Jr., a veteran Congressman who represents parts of Chicago’s South Side, and a national co-chair of Obama’s presidential campaign.
In an interview Monday, Jackson told TIME: “I’d be honored and humbled to succeed Sen. Obama in the U.S. Senate. I’m confident the governor will make a decision in the best interest of the state, and country.” But Blagojevich could also opt for a sort of placeholder figure to complete Obama’s term and allow Democrats to find a long-term candidate for 2010. Among the prominent black politicians the governor would turn to in that scenario, are Illinois’ secretary of state, Jesse White, or Emil Jones Jr., the recently retired president of Illinois’ senate, and one of Blagojevich’s few General Assembly allies.
The author mentions some other contenders, but I think Jackson is the most likely choice and he’s clearly indicated he wants it. And as national co-chair of Obama’s campaign, I’m betting it’s his. As for the idea that a woman might get the seat? Only if Obama tells Jesse Jr. to pipe down.
A better question is this: what might Blagojevich need more than the goodwill of the President?
6)Newser also has a story from the AP about Iraq.
Iraqi officials said Wednesday they don’t expect Barack Obama to withdraw U.S. troops hastily from Iraq because he told them last summer that he wouldn’t make a decision without consulting them and U.S. commanders on the ground.
With violence down and the economy No. 1 on American voters’ minds, the Iraqis said they believe the new president will take his time before fulfilling his promise to end the war in Iraq, which costs U.S. taxpayers $12 billion a month at a time of financial crisis back home.
——————“Obama has to deal with Iraq’s issues in a positive way and have a sense of responsibility to correct the situation in Iraq, as well the situation inside America,” said Salim Abdullah, spokesman of the largest Sunni bloc in parliament.
“We are not concerned that he will take a unilateral decision to remove troops quickly from Iraq since he needs to discuss this issue with the Iraqi government first,” Abdullah said.
——————–This year, U.S. and Iraqi negotiators hammered out an agreement that would remove U.S. soldiers from Iraq’s cities by June 30, with the last American troops leaving the country by 2012. The accord still must be approved by parliament by year’s end when the U.N. mandate expires.
The draft agreement has drawn strong opposition inside Iraq, but government officials are hopeful that parliament can approve the pact in time for the deadline.
That would largely satisfy both Obama’s pledge _ and the Iraqi goal _ of an orderly end to the U.S. mission.
Don’t forget that part. Despite an agreement in place, Obama will take credit for any forward movement in Iraq. Having said that, I don’t think Bush deserves any credit at all. But perhaps some of his people might. They won’t get any.
7) Lastly, I looked in vain for MSM or even sorta MSM discussions of this election in terms of misogyny or in terms of women’s issues. Crickets. Except for a wonderful post here on NQ by Bud White, there is very little out there. We should push BO on this issue at every opportunity and carefully monitor his administration. While everyone talked about race being the “unspoken issue” of the campaign, it got thoroughly aired. What was never spoken of was hate against women.
So far, only bloggers are addressing the issue, but here’s another one:
Grail Guardian is pointed:
There will never be a female President of the United States. There. I said it. Ladies, go home and grab your burkas and start cooking dinner for your man and popping out babies. You will never have equal pay for equal work, you will never be considered competent or capable at anything you ever do, and you stand no chance of ever getting anywhere unless it’s to a soccer or hockey game to cheer your (male) children on. Of course the laws will be wide open to allow you to abort female children so you don’t have to sully the landscape with them at all anymore.
How do I know? Because before even half the nation’s votes were tallied tonight, not only were all the major networks calling the race for Barack Obama, but the pundits are already discussing how Sarah Palin was John McCain’s downfall. Pundits attempting to defend her popularity with statistics were shot down on Fox News. That’s it – it’s over. You will not see another female Presidential candidate taken seriously in this country in our lifetimes. We’ll be lucky if we continue to see women continue to hold seats in the Senate and House after tonight. Female Governors? Forget about it. Palin won’t be re-elected there, because in spite of the fact that Alaska loved her (90% approval rating) just 4 months ago, she has been trashed and is now persona non grata in her own state courtesy of the Chosen One.
Time to saddle up. We need to demand BO own this issue since he’s knowingly benefitted from misogyny. At the very least, he should be required to choose some women for his administration. But we already know what his people said to just that request before: “you can’t have that.”
Lynette Long talked with a BO staffer and heard just that.
Think the Congressional Black Caucus might be willing to push for women? BO MIGHT listen to them.
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It’s a lot to swallow. The Obama ‘victory’ is too much for me to swallow right now. I have to indeed mull over it and try to figure what to do - if anything. I guess the first thing is to hold this incompetent asshole responsible for everything he’s said and done. Also we need this voting thing fixed once and for all, with a FEDERAL voting system. They have SSN’s databases. They should be able to cross-check voting lists with that. I’ll post the link but there was a news story that really was alarming about people voting in more than one state.
http://www.wsbtv.com/video/17878347/index.html
Watch this and you’ll definitely see how easy it would be for our 18 million PUMA votes to be swallowed up by vote fraud.
Surprise surprise — BO’s spot in the Ill senate will go to an AA man because Blago owes two constituencies — women and blacks. And I guess we now know that no one who owes women anything will ever ante up.
Hey, Florida Ex-Dem - Just so you know, I incorporated this into a piece I wrote this morning. It is AMAZING that it isn’t getting more play - or it should be…Anyway - thank you for highlighting it. There was GA, OH, FL in which they KNEW there were fraudulent votes, people admitting on camera they voted twice…Some democracy.
Btw, are you the horse trainer who hung out at TL? I’ve been wanting to ask for a while!
Rev Amy–this is regarding your plea for funds against Prop 8 yesterday: How could BO win my state CA with about 60% of the vote and yet we could not defeat 8?
I haven’t looked at the numbers yet but I assume that many of those “new” Bambi voters ONLY voted for The One and never looked down ballot.
And many AAs are prejudiced (they are?) against gays so they might have voted for it.
My husband and I voted as Dems for McCain but voted no on 8–I wonder how many of us there were, too.
Hi ya, Amy. Nope - don’t train horses. I could say I train a couple of kitties but hey, we all know that they train us, right?
Once again, I feel we’ve been screwed by vote fraud. This time, though, no one is going to scream about it.
BTW, I’m hating the fact that I have ever in my past been tied to the DNC. I may change my name again. Not sure what is appropriate, though. I was Florida Dem, now Florida Ex-Dem.
Yes, I don’t want the voter fraud, caucus fraud, illegal voting, illegal campaign contributions, illegal online fundraising and other issues to go away. Heck, just the ones I have named here could keep us busy for the next four years. Not to mention that now that he is the pres elect, doesn’t that broaden who has the standing to request/demand to see his birth certificate. I want to know the story on that and I hope reputable journalists don’t let go of it.
We have to put some pressure on them and force them to do something. Make enough that the MSM cannot hide it. Please sign this and pass it on. We have millions of unhappy people now, lets get it out now, before they go back to their unenlightened lives.
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/
I agree about this voter fraud. Someone needs to sue the DNC, and ACORN for the primaries. Plenty of evidence. Then a lawsuit needs to be brought for the General election. Plenty of evidence there too.
I agree that I cannot swallow an Obama success right now and maybe never will. I posted this to Hillbuzz guys but so far they have not approved it. Don’t matter but here it is:
Hey, Hillbuzz guys this 180 degree about-face regarding your congratulations to Obama seems a wee bit odd to me. What happened to the constant mantra of SoetorObama? I can understand flipping to the realm of acceptance at some point along your way simply because there’s nowhere else for you guys to go now but to do it within hours of the election results seems a tad self-serving regarding your own political aspirations going forward. Yeah, just like Obama is self-serving.
As a life-long Democrat I thought I learned a great deal by watching the Democratic Party turn into a party of fools but even now I am learning more about how people use other people when the timing is right and then move on into a new and improved place to continue on with whatever serves them best. Obama has been a master of this but I see that he is not alone in that regard.
Personally I do not congratulate anyone that is as slimy as Obama has been these past couple of years campaigning, much less his entire political life. He does not deserve an ounce of congratulations. Shall I congratulate Hitler for his accomplishments? He was quite the master, very good at what he was doing even though it was despicable. What about Putin? He’s been a clever cuss, that is for sure, and he deserves our congratulations, too. He has been able to con an entire planet into thinking about him one way when he is entirely another. Shall I congratulate such winners?
All we as American’s have proved is that we are no better than any other sleazy nation when it comes to picking leaders that lack quality.
‘Way to go-He doesn’t deserve congrats for theft of the primary votes and winning by theft.
I’m going to quit working..move up north were they just decriminalized pot…sell my property and buy a cottage up there. I’ll send my husband out to work a no pay job…we won’t need the money. I’ll start having kids to make out on tax day and take advantage of welfare, oh yeah and we’ll skirt the property taxes up there too.
Let the obamination pay for their own change and hope that is going to cost my middle class ass a fortune that I don’t have!
Why do you think Obama got the Jewish vote….they have money…they don’t pay taxes…and keeping the tax burden on the middle class is just their evil greedy style.
Remember that folks-the rich DO NOT pay taxes!
The AMT has been soaking the middle class for a while now and most don’t even know it-it’s hidden.
“Why do you think Obama got the Jewish vote…they have money…they don’t pay taxes…and keeping the tax burden on the middle class is just their evil greedy style…” - I am Jewish, I voted McCain, I don’t “have money” and I do pay taxes - anyway, Jews make about 2% of the population, though they do vote in droves. Why don’t you take your bigotry some place else?
I don’t know what is getting into people. I’m not Jewish but my grandchildren are. My daughter and her family voted for McCain. Honestly, that was a horrible thing for you to say “sneaky”.
Florida,
I fully agree with the need to fix the voting problem asap. It would have to start now to even have a prayer of a solution in place by 2012. Start with getting this issue before your elected officials, not as a letter or call to their offices, but in a well written letter to their legislative teams. There needs to be a public campaign with discussions among neighbors, in community organizations, letters to the editor and everywhere else you can keep the issues alive and out front!
IT has been floated elsewhere that Obama’s brain, Valerie Jarrett, will be a possible senate replacement. The Illinois political situation is extremely complex, and corruption is rampant. I am very anxious to see what steps he takes regarding Patrick Fitzgerald. Fitzgerals is onto the corruption and has many investigations unfolding and at various stages. BHO may, and I emphasize may, be involved as well. At the very least, his associates have been. Who the governor owes will dictate his choice. I see a quid pro quo coming on. Just my guess at years of watching how it works here.
When did/does Obama’s senate term expire, though? He’s was elected in what? 2004? Had a 4 yr term? Isn’t his term done?
6 year term.
Figures for her to get something. Chicago again and an Iranian.
Recalling Gore’s words:
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/its-dark-and-rainy-heremakes-me-think-of-gores-words/
Just because Palin was almost destroyed in the lower 48, don’t assume the Alaskans don’t love her. She brought them more recognition and involvement than they’ve ever had before. I’d be very surprised if it hurt her in Alaska.
I have lived and worked with the people in Alaska. I know for certain that if Palin was popular before this crappy election then she is still popular. Those people are as loyal as they come, and just as tough.
She wasn’t destroyed. In fact she will prolly be groomed for a 2012 presidency run. Mac came very close. In each state he was like 100,000 votes down and some as close as 50-1,000 votes..if not for ACORN I wonder if Mac would have won.
Obama will never, ever own up to his misogyny. Any women who make it in his administration are going to be mommies and babysitters. Similar situation to George Bush. But Bush is going to make Obama look good in terms of women in government.
He will keep his supporters on his side by throwing them the red meat of women hatred. That’s all he has to keep the rabid dogs busy. Tough times ahead for American women. Very tough times.
I imagine he will find a place for Oprah.
mommies his daughters babysitters and crooks
I agree, he will never own up to his woman-hating. He benefits too much from it. Without it, he wouldn’t be where he is. A woman will have to have no soul to be successful in his administation. So Donna Brazile would be a good fit.
This is just tough. He’s still the same old Obarky to me. 3 points: His campaign raised the most money ever; a lot of it from special interests. He’ll have to be watched closely regarding appointments and policy making. 2) his victory never would have materialized if it weren’t for Hillary Clinton. If she had dropped out in early February there would not have been nearly as many new Democrats registering, who ended up voting for Obambi. And last; election fraud is still a crime. Everything he pulled off still has to come under scrutiny. Indeed, that may be just what the Republicans can use to squash his honeymoon, and start painting him as incompetent; as someone who can make a great speech but has no idea how to govern.
I was wondering how much of a honeymoon Obama would get. I was thinking it would be a long one because the Media is so in love with Obama. The Republicans may come out on the attack from the get go, but they may let Obama stumble along for a while.
It will be interesting to see.
BO will not listen to anyone. If it’s not about him then he doesn’t have time.
I basically said the same thing last night. There will never be a women POTUS or VP in my lifetime. For one thing, there aren’t any in politics today strong enough or competent enough. The one who actually earned it was destroyed and BTW, Hillary, where is that glowing speech about how great OBarfy is today? Where are you hiding? Thanks for the pay back to those of us who defended you to the loss of friends and family. Thanks for putting your career before the country’s best interest and I doubt you have much of a career left.
I don’t even care if a woman ever becomes POTUS since women shit all over each other and now I know that in America I am nothing more than dog shit in society.
I guess you missed it or got sloshed by the media..Palin is competent enough…and don’t give me the BS that she is too far right, whatever that means. watch for her red campaign buttons that say Palin for President 2012 and lips on it..
Hillary campaigned for him because she had to. Also she needed to maintain her power in the Senate if she’s going to continue to work for the American people. Was she really going to throw that away on a no-hope stand against Obama, his crooked DNC support, his huge financial backers who gave him $700 million and the media who proclaimed him the new messiah? Hillary is brilliant but she’s not that strong.
I’m sick of her getting the blame for this. She’s not everybody’s mommy. She fought him and the DNC as hard as she could and she lost. How many women do you think could withstand the tidal wave of misogyny and still be standing at the end of it, still smiling, still a leader?
If you don’t want to support women that’s your choice, but don’t blame women for this - the vast majority of the misogyny and hatred has been coming from men, straight down from their top man Obama. It’s up to men to stop treating us like shit, stop bullying us, stop using every evil trick in the book to ensure that we never win against them. The penis crowd need to step up and start changing things, it can’t always be women who have to do all the work.
Spot on. Clinton is one hell of a fighter but she knows how to pick her battles. She fought tooth and nail while she still had a prayer but when your opponents hold the money, the media, and are willing to fight dirty and break every rule in the book with no-one to call them on it, there is nothing more that anyone can do. She just has to bide her time now and wait til they expose their flank again. And that time is sure to come.
I was pretty upset with Hillary until I heard McCain yesterday. It dawned on me that she probably did what she did because she realized that fighting to the end will outrage Obama’s AA supporters so much that it will bring race relations in this country to a point of almost no return - think about the people applauding Jeremiah Wright while he was mocking her. I really think I understand her better now.
When Obama fails, blacks will claim that he is white.
Or they will claim that racist whites (I know, I’m repeating myself) caused Obama to fail. Obama’s incompetence will never be considered.
The two websites that I follow religiously are No Quarter and the Lyndon LaRouche PAC websites. I like these websites because they offer some interesting ideas and valuable information.
I know Lyndon LaRouche is not mainstream and probably isn’t taken too seriously by many political insiders, but he has a broad view of not just national, but international politics as well. And he did correctly forecast the economic disaster, as he does not hesitate to remind his readers. He currently has some very interesting tidbits on the economic picture with particular attention to the upcoming Bush’s G20? conference on November 15th.
I like the widesweep of viewpoints that LisaB presents, but those viewpoints all seem fairly conventional and one has to dig quite a bit for the nuggets. Down-to-earth common sense is good, but outrageous, prophetic insight sometimes is even better.
I mostly came to NO QUATERS and NEW ZEAL to read– and bitch.
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Take the LaRouche spam somewhere else.
Apparently Tristan does not appreciate Mr LaRouche. First of all, this is not spam. It is the totally independent opinion of a totally unaffliated voter/citizen. As difficult as it might be for some idealogues to understand, it is possible for an open-minded person to appreciate both the many fine bloggers at No Quarter and Mr LaRouche and his PAC. They all have constructive things to say.
Propaganda against Russia as posed by this site
right after the Obama Coup, plays right into the hands of Brzezinski and the oligarchical handlers of Obama, who like the Zionist controlled Bush will use faux patriotism to bring the nation together under the pall and smothering blanket of unthinking evil.
Remember Obama was put up by Soros, the man responsible for funding Georgian puppet Saakashvilli, as part of a NATO, MI6 CIA NSA people power coup, as was Barkey’s ascension.
Here we have No Quarter going right along with this insane attack upon Russia, when in fact Russia is the greatest friend of the American Republic against the bankrupt financial oligarchy that has just installed Barkey Davis Obama to become the new politically correct face of imperialism, and fascist Malthusianism.
Putin not only praised FDR in 2006, but implemented policies of the kind in Russia and stated that it is a tragedy that the United States does not revive FDR.
Why are’nt the Isreali’s blamed for the hacking, well they do not have to be they probably already control the computer systems of both parties. Now with Rahm Emmanuel, the Isreal national in the saddle, we know who is really in control.
Did they go along or did they print the news? Most of us know that Brzezinski hates Russia and he along with Soros and Carter and others like extreme Islam are guiding BO as well as the Chicago Political Machine, some think is the MOB.
We all know that this is going to end in world conflict. We are kidding ourselves if we think it will be war overseas. It will be here.
Each faction hopes to win out, each faction is owed by BO. The best I can say is BO is a weak, inexperienced person. But I fear it is much worse than that.
Florida Ex-Dem,
Senators serve for 6 years.
Very, Very nice post. Much of it i covered a bit earlier on this site when I was screaming and bitching how much I hate Obambi and his ilk. I covered (in dif words) much of the topics you speak of.
as for JJ Jr.. he’s a disgusting person. His screams of racism while he chaired Obambi’s campaign were disgusting. He’s a horrible human being and considering the corrupt politics in chicago, maybe they deserve him as their political spokes person in the senate.. but then again.. the guys a prick plain and simple and the idea of him being handed the seat disgusts me.
by the way, the down dropped almost 500 pts in response to the new electee.
I found that humorous even though it affects me.
Wait for the pink slips to start to hit. The general consensus is Obama is bad for business. It’s going to be a homemade gifts and “socks and underwear” Christmas for a lot of folks.
It’s going to get worse. Business people have no confidence in his ability to lead what-so-ever.
We have seen how he let his IL. district fall into disarray..that’s how he’ll deal with the nation.
I can’t believe people could vote for someone with no experience or accomplishments…Like some guy said last night on Fox..Obama is a pretty popular person,even though he’s unknown in many aspects..The other guy said,well I guess we’ll find out what kind of guy he is once he’s in office..
Nothing like putting someone in the White House,just to go down in the history books..
Most Americans are very nieve.imo
Don’t forget that his dad has made an INDUSTRY out of “racism”.
The way I see it is that the only reason BO could win is because the republicans would not come out to vote. Bush and his cronies in the House and Senate have pretty much destroyed the republican brand.
This is no different then if you been buying Ford all your life and then one day you buy a new Ford and the car is OK but gives you some problems but then 4 years later you buy an other one and that one really sucks. Now you did not like the previous one already and the second one left you stranded on the highway.
At this point even if Ford shows you a car that you really really like and when you test drive it you can’t believe how much it reminds you of your old Ford truck you use to have and loved but you will not buy it because the brand has let you down over and over again.
I think the Wall Street melt down was the day many republicans got stranded on the highway. We PUMAs could not over come that. Don’t forget less people turned out in this election then in 2004. The lack of signs just reinforced the fact that people had better things to do then worry bout politics.
I totally agree with this.
I agree, there was alot of republicans around my neighborhood that hate Bush so much that they put a clothpin on their nose and voted for Obama. I thought they were voting for Mccain, but, after today speaking to them they told me they voted for him. I was very surprised. As for the computer hacking- please- anything- to make sure that the donors are not found- it is funny that IP addresses were hacked by the very same people that are crying foul. I guess they think some of us have forgotten. Or better yet, the same people that gave out your private name on blogs to others to invite them to harass you. Some of us are just waiting for the right time!
I think the media beat Bush II senselessly for years now. Bush II is no McCain by any means, but the media played into the Axelrod theme that McCain was Bush II. Ironic… because in reality Obama is Bush III. Ohio may have been lost in the week long voter campaign where you didn’t need an ID to vote. There are a lot of places to point the finger of blame. But, in reality, I think the election was fixed from the start. McCain never had a chance… well he had a Kerrym of a chance in h*ll of ever winning. McCain would have had to become Obama to beat Obama. That is not McCain. McCain is a symbol of the great nation we once were… a strong and honest people. Obama is the symbol of the nation that has gained a recent majority. I guess it’s true… you reap what you sow. So, now we have a garden of weeds.
GOP did not come out. That’s been confirmed by the exit polls. White people still voted for McCain. But it was close, and the AA and Hispanic vote put Obama over the top. This is especially true in FL, CO and NM. And having the GOP stay home just made things more impossible.
You can’t win without the hispanic vote anymore. McCain didn’t get it. He knew it early on. I’m not sure why this was ignored.
I’m still seeing people say that Palin was a mistake. I think this is 100% incorrect. McCain’s campaign would have been over if it were not for Palin. You don’t draw crowds like that by being a mistake. If anything, Palin revitilized the GOP base, but the soft conservative segment did not come back to McCain after the economic crisis. The MSM used this to say Palin was a drag on the ticket. And the narrative was set.
I wish I would have known that there was an internal battle going on in the GOP. We would have known that a part of the GOP wanted to lose. I did not believe it. Thought it was a conspiracy theory. Nope. They stayed home. They want the RINOs like Bush out. McCain isn’t one, but got caught in the middle. RINO supporters hated McCain for going against Bush after McCain lost in 2000. But the MSM linked McCain to Bush and the other Republicans hate the RINOs. These are mostly the Romney supporters. Also, social conservatives (like Hukabee) had no one on the ticket to push their ideals.
There was so much going on with the Republicans that I didn’t know about. Spent too much time looking at Obama. And ultimately, he’s the one that was on people’s minds.
The mistake we made that we focused to much on the democrats where as we should have spent half of our time with the republicans.
No I think Republicans voted. What you left out is ACORN and voter intimidation and cheating, that horrid woman Brunner in OH.At least 200,000 votes there. I saw here office and it was almost all black working there too. Same in the Duval county Supervisor of elections office. Do all black cheat? No. Do some go the extra way to get precious elected? What do you think? Factor in the young Cubans and the Jewish vote. 77% of the Jewish vote. 650,000, Jewish people in Florida registered as Democrats. McCain did very well in Florida despite the Democrats having 600,000 more registered voters. 30,000 illegal felons registered and 100,000 people registered in GA and OH and FL.
More women should have voted to support Sarah Palin. It is my thinking also that she was womens last hope. Can we look for BO to extend his reign to 10 years like he said? Or will Michelle be the next one to run? Will he put her on his cabinet to be the National Health Czar? Fill all his cabinet with Chicago people?
Translation - KISS MY ASS OBAMA!
He also never acknowledged BO by name.
Very telling
Great wrap up. Shelby Steele is very thoughtful and you provide an interesting analysis.
A foreign entity…could well be the Big I;
they surely must suspect Barry’s positions from his attendance and associations at Trinity.
That they were silent during his ascension is very curious indeed.
Why did so many Jews put him in power?
Believe it or not, I think “black athletes” may be a serious factor–along with black musicians and actors. It’s a form of hero worship everyone grows up with. They are cool. Ergo black politicians are cool.
It amazes me how so many AAs are convinced that white people are naturally set against blacks. Look at Sesame Street. What color are the majority of the children? Dark. This is what has been in front of people for many years, dark people are normal, ok, and can do anything anyone else can. If they’re boys.
And your point is?
Obama looks bad. He doesn’t look happy like a winner usually looks. He looks worried and like he swallowed a frog. He got himself into something he has no idea how to handle it…run a government. He has never managed anything in his life.
The bastard deserves to suffer in hell for what he did to us. Good that he looks anxious.
He’ll suffer plenty on earth. Trust me.
He’s not going to like being president.
Plus the fights and the drama among his supporters and hangers-on is going to be fierce.
Not to mention that the Oblamasphere is going to writing about “What Obama Must Do.” And Obama will ignore their advice. And then the
I don’t believe in a real hell. Its a good metaphor and that is exactly what will happen to him, he will have his own hell on Earth.
Yes others have noticed the messiah’s unhappy affect upon winning the election.
It’s likely because Obama only likes to attain greater heights - not stick around and do the real work.
And since there is no “President of the World” title, it’s all a bit anticlimactic for poor Barry.
Indeed.
In about 2 years or so, he will look 57 instead of 47. He has never had to really work at anything before. I know he will be lazier than Bush, but he can’t avoid eveything.
Obama is trying to fill a void in his soul. He’s trying to find out who he is. He thought that being President would finally define the missing pieces in his life. But having won, he’s now realising he still doesn’t know who he is.
In fact, there are tons of articles now being written about his supporters feeling the same way. Lots of emptyness.
On NQ, you can identify them easily. They are the ones that come here asking for the whitey tape or throwing insults around. They won, yet it’s not enough. The fact that they’re here means the void hasn’t been filled. They need us to validate their existence.
You describe the sobs to a T.
I’ve always seen him as walking into the Oval Office for the first time, deer in the head lights, saying “Oh s**t!” “Now what?”
I thought he looked bad too. It’s the look of “Oh Sh*t. Now I finally have to do the job and I have no more time for waffles”. He’s going to age very quickly with all the problems now on his plate.
Excellent articles all around. Speaking of misogyny, Senator Clinton, and PUMA, it is interesting to note the following. Exit polls reveal that Obama won about 80% of those who supported Clinton in the democratic primaries. As it turns out, this is consistent with Obama’s internal polling, wherein they estimated they would lose about 20% of the Clinton vote due to their horrible treatment of her. Obama took a calculated risk that the loss would stay at about 20%, while making up those losses through new voter registration. PUMA and similar organizations were hoping to make the losses closer to 30 to 35%. If we had achieved those figures, it may very well have tilted the race to McCain.
So once again, everything went right for Obama. It was simply a “perfect storm” scenario. He got away with virtually everything, including the complete trashing of the Clinton and their supporters. I am still deeply saddened that he pulled it off, especially at the expense of Senator Clinton and everyone one of us who were repeat victims of the injudicious use of the race card, simply because we supported Senator Clinton.
Yes right. If pumas would have actually voted for Mac instead of going green or leaving the top slot empty, Mac was close enough in votes to win many more states. Now NObama wants to hire mac to help him with the war(s)
With the way Sen Clinton has been acting lately, aggressively campaigning for Obama, I think she deserves and accepted every treatment she got from the Obama camp.
Ted Kenned did not endorse Jimmy Carter because he believes Carter is not the right person for the job. But Clinton, well, party first. She has a lot of explaining to do.
I saw a video yesterday where she was in the polls campaigning. 5 feet from a voting booth too.
With the way Sen Clinton has acted lately, aggressively campaigning for Obama, I think she deserves and accepted every treatment she got from the Obama camp.
Ted Kenned did not endorse Jimmy Carter because he believes Carter is not the right person for the job. But Clinton, well, party first. She has a lot of explaining to do.
Still waiting here to see how many “pieces of silver” it took. I am guessing the first Supreme Court seat that comes up… Obama will have to draft Hillary and cajole her to do it… wink… wink… for the country’s sake.
First seat will be filled by Louis Farrakhan
Second seat will be filled by Bill Ayers.
Why is it “old hippies” like the Clinton’s never grow up? I have searched long and hard in all of this and this is the best guess at a succinct summation I have… that they are reliving their youth and college “glory days” by trying to push their 60’s agenda on us in 2008.
My theory, having been amongst them for a number of years, is that the drugs and alcohol addictions kept them emotionally stunted and unable to mature. So many continue to behave and even think as they did then. I think it’s organic and nostalgic too. You know when you see an little old lady with the shoe polish black beehive that it was the time she felt best about herself. Stuck in the past though.
I, of course, actually look better than I did then!LOL and…did give up the beehive by 1969.
That’s because Jimmy Carter wasn’t a vindictive bastard like Obama and didn’t enjoy humiliating his opponent and making Kennedy work for him. I’m sure it gave Obama an even bigger thrill that he was doing it to a woman.
Stop blaming Hillary for Obama’s political brutality.
What Hillary had to endure is pretty much what the whole of the US is about to experience unless you’re a ‘bot. I guess you’ll be telling everybody else they deserved it too.
as my husband pointed out: if 96% of women had voted for Clinton, or then for Palin, we’d HAVE a female in the white house.
96% being the magic (non-racial, ha) percentage of AAs that voted for Fauxbama.
humph.
96% is a ridiculously high number for skin tone to be merely coincidental. If I ever had any of the “guilt” in me it is surely gone forever.
McPalin- You need to get glasses. I can understand that someone who hates Obama would delude yourself like that, but guess what, no body else see,s it that way except people who hate.
I’m sorry, but McCain made a huge error in choosing Sarah Palin. Romney would have given the McCain ticket instant credibility on the economy. He governed MA as a very liberal Republican, supporting gay rights and health care reform. Romney also has decades more experience than Palin and would at least be viewed as qualified to run the country. 60% of voters said she wasn’t qualified for the presidency. ‘Nuff said.
60% of the voters have their heads up their a$s and Sarah could have made a difference in our energy policy since that is her forte..now nothing will change..everything will stay the same..
Yes, we are hearing this even now. Obama is for all practical purposes Bush III. We will not change direction… just accelerate the path Bush II has established for us. So if you liked Bush II… then you will love Bush III.
I just heard on Fox (Carl Cameron) that Palin did not accept preparation for the Gibson and Couric interviews, and she didn’t know simple facts, for example, that Africa is a continent and which countries were in NAFTA. All my kids down to the youngest could have given those answers (the NAFTA with a few hints, I guess), so I find that a bit far-fetched. But perhaps some hyperbole to undermine her as “dumb,” but of course what do you expect….she is a woman and we have been there, done that this election season.
Having said all that, and giving her the benefit of the doubt, and having 20-20 hindsight, Romney would have been a better pick. But who knew this tanking of the economy would take precedence over the Iraq war which Joe Biden voted in favor of. It is all just weird karma that all aligned in an incredibly complex way for Barry.
My take on this is this. Sarah may well have watched Katie for years and may even have liked her. I think Sarah was unprepared for the venom that was directed upon her. She had been attacked on several fronts rabidly. Oh yes, Sarah was a big threat. If she wasn’t then why all the out and out attacks. They were stunned by her selection and her poise at the convention and the debates.
No one but International Business World gave her any credit for he acute business sense. They had an excellent write up on her stopping the oil cartels plans from impacting the USA. This being Iran/Russia/China. I am taking from memory but think it is close to fact. It is also a fact, that Alaska is the first line of defense between us and Russia. The national guard their are not just any National guard but special trained and from all states. Google her sometime.
I’d have to agree with your take. She’s very smart and effective in performing her job. You can tell by the contingency in Alaska who absolutely abhor her…the AK old time lefty Democrats. Scathing attacks in a sea of otherwise happy campers. There is no strong woman who won’t get used for batting practice; God how they are feared. Found out so many things about “progressive men”. So far, the Republican men (who can also be misogynists…none are 100%) I’ve met have been old school mannered and respectful. A pleasant change from the rude, profanity filled, hip guys (they think) “in the know”.
I would not have voted for McCain had he chosen Romney, Guiliani and I don’t know Pawlenty. I had planned not to vote Obama, just to leave the presidential box blank. Once Palin was chosen, my decision was made.
I have a real hard time believing this is totally a hatchet job on her and done as quickly as her plane got airborn for Alaska. Why? Who were those cowards who won’t go on the record but will slam her behind her back and their fingers crossed behind their backs. Cameron looked a little gleeful dishing out the dirt on her.
Correction! I meant to say I have a hard time believing this is NOT a hatchet job on Palin by someone looking to place the blame elsewhere.
I like Romney a lot. I would have voted for him for Pres. and would still vote for him. However, he just didn’t get traction with the base in spite of the big $$$ he spent. And it would have been the “same old same old” two boring white guys running against an historic ticket. Palin has at least the same experience as Obama…that is fact, not opinion. Can we talk double standards here? So she made some PR mistakes…Biden makes 5 a day. Plus she is a rock star…she pulls in the crowds regardless of what anyone thinks of her. It is amazing that public opinion only finds HER inexperienced. They were calling for her to be removed from the ticket after two days….but oh boy that Obama knows what he’s doing. Either 1) it was a calculated media hit job on Palin that everyone bought or 2) women are simply not respected in this country.
McCain made a great choice, but the misognynist media destroyed Palin just like they did Hillary.
Plain had you OBOTS running scared shitless and you had no other option but to lie about her and yu now continue to twist reality. Palin brought a welcomed suprise to Macs ticket and the race was close..check the vote counts in each state..Plain energized Macs ticket but you won’t admit it because you are sexist!!!!! bite me
Palin had you OBOTS running scared shitless and you had no other option but to lie about her and you now continue to twist reality. Palin brought a welcomed suprise to Macs ticket and the race was close..check the vote counts in each state..Palin energized Macs ticket but you won’t admit it because you are sexist!!!!! bite me
Isn’t it ironic how Palin was exonerated from all wrongdoing from the trooper gate on election day?
Was anyone really taking “Troopergate” seriously???
Give Greta Van Susteren on Fox news credit for pointing out the sexism throughout the campaign. here’s what she wrote about the treatment of sarah palin:
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/11/05/firsthand-knowledge-is-so-different-isnt-it-so-much-more-valuable/
November 5th, 2008 12:05 PM Eastern
Firsthand Knowledge is so different, isn’t it? So much more valuable
by Greta Van Susteren
Since mid August I have heard many (especially women) talk about Governor Palin and read many things said (especially by women) about Governor Palin. I just want to comment about a remark or two.
Unlike all her critics, I actually spent time with Governor Palin (twice) …also met her husband….and her mother…and friends…and I actually went up to Alaska and talked to people who know her personally and/or simply as a politician in their state…I did not run into others in the media when I was in Alaska..where were they? Why didn’t they go to Alaska and do what I did? It might have been more enlightening than talking to each other about her.
I got out of the comfort of my own studio, flew hours and hours (red eye back I might add!) to get my own look rather than be poisoned by the remarks of others….yes, I was able to avoid the herd mentality that poisons the media…and there is no doubt in my mind that she is very smart, an astute politician, a very nice person and that she will be back ….maybe or probably 2012? You may not agree with her (and I certainly don’t on all issues….but I don’t agree with anyone on all issues..not even my friends or my family…) but the treatment she got from the media was disgraceful. It is one thing to disagree, and to challenge (that is the media’s job) but another to simply gratuitously and personally insult and treat with great disrespect….being an elitist is not a quality my parents would want me to have.
Stupid. as if you do not know.
When I told a Dem buddy of mine that I was voting McCain he actually asked me if it was b/c Barry was black. I looked at him horrified and said the color of his skin had absolutely nothing to do with my vote. I told him my decision was based on experience and I wanted someone who understood and could command the respect of our military. I couldn’t believe that this guy actually asked me that, but I inferred from his question that indeed he was voting for Barry b/c of the color of his skin.
This statement says it all -
But there is an inherent contradiction in all this. When whites — especially today’s younger generation — proudly support Obama for his post-racialism, they unwittingly embrace race as their primary motivation. They think and act racially, not post-racially. The point is that a post-racial society is a bargainer’s ploy: It seduces whites with a vision of their racial innocence precisely to coerce them into acting out of a racial motivation. A real post-racialist could not be bargained with and would not care about displaying or documenting his racial innocence. Such a person would evaluate Obama politically rather than culturally.
There is lots to hate about Barry and it’s more than skin deep. Within hours of being selected president, we get threats from Russia and the stock market plunges. This is a preview of what is to come rather quickly. Don’t say we haven’t warned you OBOTS.
But Hillary and McCain will come to the rescue and
help the boob Barry togovern for him behind the scenes.Hillary and McCain will help because unlike Barack Hussein Obama, they love America.
No doubt there was cheating. The votes were close.
I answered you for her, or do you just not know how to read either. Common sense is not your forte but i at least thought you were literate.
Who cares what you think. Go back to OBOT hell.
If it makes anyone feel better, McCain will return as the ranking Republican on the Armed Services Committee. That will put the four-term Arizona senator in a position to influence Democrat Barack Obama’s plan to set a timetable to withdraw U.S. troops from combat in Iraq. Once again, a well written post at NQ!
Well I bet you kids should have known they didn’t have tv in 1929. And that FDR was not president at the start of the great depression. maybe they also know that we have 50 states not 57 or 58 and that people that have asthma use inhalors not inhalators or breathalyzers. so the only point you just made is that it’s ok for men to be dumb as hell, but women, even when we are on the top of our game like with hillary are not even worth of a passing glance.
I would also like to say that i have a very good feeling that when Putin decides to put a missle up our ass. Sarah Palin is going to be the individual who saves the day and not porky pig.
Yes, kgirl. The only thing separating Alaska and Russia is a tiny 10 mile strip of water for your information you Geography challenged (R)OBOTS.
Yep, that somes up about the only qualification Barry put forth, racial idealism.
…seems to be working swimmingly on Russia. ROFLMAO
I’m so glad people here are talking about the voter fraud issue, because no doubt the MSM, even Fox, will give it short shrift. It’s like, oh well, we have our black President now, so let’s just endure whatever for 4 years and be done with it. I guess next we’ll have the first Hispanic Prez. Or maybe Hillary can pick a Latino veep. How’s that?
Or the first Asian American President. When oh when can we get rid of hyphenated citizenry?
I think because people generally like McCain, Bush and Palin will get the blame for the loss. In reality,
1) democrats were so hungry for a victory after eight years they were ready to support a flawed candidate
2) independent voters were ready for a change and didn’t dig too deep into the details
3) hispanics rejected the Republican outreach and voted in their economic best interest
BTW since we’re in our new post-racial world, I guess I can go to the first black or hispanic guy I see and tell him that I voted for McCain? And he won’t assume that I voted on race rather than policy, right? Because we’re all in a cool post-racial world now black people can grow up and become anything they want, as long as they have the MSM in their pocket, Oprah to fundraise, and Howard Dean and Donna Brazile to count the primary votes. And they’re not female, of course.