Bill Ayers Redux

I’ve thought long and hard about why the Ayers story got no traction in the press. The only conclusion I can come to is that the baby boomers, who hold the lion’s share of decision-making posts at the most influential media outlets, are still romanticizing the ’60s — and to a lesser extent, the early ’70s — adering to the “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” mentality. Sure the Weather Underground kicked up a fuss, but we didn’t want to go to Vietnam, man! Besides, all those hippie chicks raising their fists in defiance of the Man were hotttt.

The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.
Vladimir Lenin

that’s what happened to our so called “free press.” they have become the O’s collective organizer.

In fact, Ayers said that he knew Obama only slightly: “I think my relationship with Obama was probably like that of thousands of others in Chicago and, like millions and millions of others, I wished I knew him better.”

straight from Comrade lenin!

A lie told often enough becomes the truth.
Vladimir Lenin

well they say there is no such thing as bad press…

so thanks guys!

hopefully now I will be able to shift some t-shirts
http://AmericasFavoriteTerrorist.com

As you all know, Chicago’s Favorite Real Estate Fairy™ is now in prison so I will need to purchase my new mansion using cash money from my anti-american books and destroying of america via its educational institutions…

and these fine high quality t-shirts…

free shipping during Obama’s transition period…

Love,
Bill

The “liberal media” isn’t done yet. From the front page of cnn:
Youthful Obamas inspire Camelot talk

I dare you to click this link and not puke:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2008/11/07/sbt.obama.camelot.cnn

The attacks leveled at Kerry by the Swift boat veterans were true — every one of them. Some of what they said, after having served with him or watched how he denigrated the troops after he returned from the war, was merely their opinion that he would not make a good Commander in Chief. Opinions are neither true nor false.

I just heard on local news last night that Bill Ayers is coming to the University of Illinois, Champaign, Illinois to do a paid project. He will live with students in their dorms for 2 months and also lecture. I am calling the UofI today to complain.

Come to find out Eikenberry (not sure of spelling)- UofI President served on the same Annenberg board with Obama and Ayers. This may get interesting in Champaign, Illinois.

I don’t know about your state but the politians following in Soertoro/Obama’s footsteps weren’t those of Bill Ayers’ generation; they were the “youthful” Barry/Barack, or younger, contemporaries because Mr. Soertoro/Obama is a member of the baby boom generation also!

So, why do these “kids” young enough to be Ayer’s grandchildren not take the terrorist connection seriously? Do they yearn for the “good old days” when you could bomb the Pentagon and not get punished for it? Or is it irrelevant because it is too far in the past because there’s a new group of terrorists in town who make Ayer’s exploits and his FBI terrorist classification look mild by comparison to the new ones…like al Qaida… like Cousin Odinga.

Personally I think Bill Ayers needs to keep MLK’s name out his mouth. Period. Someone who employs those type of tatics to prove point can not and should not comment and judge on such a person. The fact MLK is six feet under and that man still draws breath are just one of the things that make me question the existance of God but assures that of the devil.

I see the ‘Bill Ayers redux’ issue as something that will impact us in our country for the duration of Obama’s incumbency, at least 4 years. It will have a daily impact and it will have a steep cost.

Obama was and is the most irresponsible person this country has ever listened too. And now his irresponsibility will come to the front every single time he speaks on any issue. Irresponsibility here means not giving a full account of matters under consideration. That made him untrustworthy. Now he won the presidency and we have an untrustworthy president.

So we know that Bill Ayers is an anarchist and we can see that the root of Obama’s irresponsibility lies in his adherence to that type of anarchism.

Today, Obama will be addressing many organization’s principals and stakeholders in Chicago and later having his first press conference. Not a word he said to those people will be believable – not one. Some of them will chose to believe him but only those that don’t have any personal something to loose from believing him. Any one that needs to protect the slightest personal interest will not be believing him. And the press conference will be a fiasco. No one will believe one word coming out of his mouth. Not if one has anything valuable to safeguard. So Oblahblah will blabber his points yada yada but those points will be important only to those that don’t have an interest in the success of the issue, to those who can care less one way or the other. There will be always lots of people who will vocalize support for something he says, but always tided to personal interests or lack thereof.

And so Bill Ayers redux will affect our economy and the credibility of this individual, our President for the next 4 years. It will always reveal that Obama’s pathology lies in Bill Ayers’ anarchism.

The pro-Bobo media didn’t investigate Ayers because they’re so determined to put a black man in the WH. And of course most of them love his purported radical agenda (though heaven knows what he really plans!) Now they’re trying to shut down any criticism by gushing about how historic it all is. Twerp Shep Smith had the temerity to jump on Ralph Nader who opined that he hoped Bobo would be an Uncle Sam and not an Uncle Tom. Shep wanted to give him the opportunity to take it all back, given that the first black man has been elected Prez and all. Ralph calmly called him a bully. I would’ve called Sheppy something along the opposite vein of the gender spectrum–but that’s just me. Nader has certainly earned the right to give his opinion and have people politely listen. And then Hannity and Colmes had Jerry Springer on. Now who in hell cares what HE says? But, anyway, the talk turned to how parents can now tell their kids that ANYONE can be elected Prez. Yeah, I said, unless they happen to have DAUGHTERS!!

Bill Ayers Redux = Bill Ayers anarchism = Obama’s ambiguities and obfuscations.

Bill Ayers Redux = Bill Ayers anarchism = Obama’s tendencies to promote chaos.

Bill Ayers Redux = Bill Ayers anarchism = Obama’s project to redefine and redirect America and to make himself its exclusive leader.

Ayers said that once his name became part of the campaign maelstrom he never had any contact with the Obama circle.

That would imply that ayers HAD contact before his name became part of the campaign maelstrom. Correct?

The Ayer’s ideology will infiltrate the Department of Education. And his wife’s into the Department of Justice. Mark my words, (And grid your loins). And it won’t be in high profile public cabinet positions. That will be too obvious. It will be under the radar appointments as Assistants and Deputies. You know the positions that aren’t figure heads, but actually do the work, shape the policy, set budget priorities.

PS and OT- Larry Summers as Treasury Secretary. The MSM is already trying to shove this appointment down women’s throats as acceptable. The same Larry Sanders, as president of Harvard who said women are not sucessful in math and science because 1.) We don’t want to work long hours, would prefer to have babies 2.) High school boys score higher on tests than girls 3.) Men are born with a natural ability that women lack. http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/01/17/summers_remarks_on_women_draw_fire/

Again, I will say that the Ayers, Rezko, Khalidi stuff just added to my deistate for Obama. His actions getting to the White House, the primary and election fraud, the acceptance of illegal campaign funds after breaking his promise to use government matching funds, the refusal to debate or hold the town hall meetings, and OF COURSE the sexist, vindictive behavior toward Hillary and McCain.

His actions show who he is as well as his past (and probably current) associations.

The media also refused to discuss those issues.

I am a baby boomer. Do not paint all of us the way you did. In fact, more of us were not that way. I had a full-tuition academic scholarship during the Vietnam war. I worked 25 to 30 hours a week to earn room and board. I slept an average of 3 to 4 hours a night only because I had to maintain a B+ average back when grades weren’t inflated in order to keep my scholarship.

I spent my time in classes with young women who were trying to break some of the barriers and to go after dreams they hadn’t had a chance of fulfilling until then. I spent my time in class with young men, some of whom wanted the education but many of whom were there because Daddy could afford to put them there so they could have the college draft deferrment.

My brother and four of my cousins joined the military to avoid the draft into the cannon fodder ranks. My brother earned an equivalent of an MS by being able to get through the very difficult nuclear power school. My cousins mostly just wanted to come back, start a family, and continue our family’s tradition of farming.

I visited my poor grandmother in the hospital often as she suffered from crippling, severe migraines worrying about her grandsons.

The people you talk about are the more well-to-do kids whose parents often paid their way so they could go to the demonstrations and drug-induced love-ins.

I didn’t like Viet nam, didn’t like what we were doing there any more than I like Iraq. I would love to find ways to stop this stupid fighting for power and control while using the term “civilian casualties” to mention the deaths of innocents.

One of my high school classmates died from the effects of Agent Orange years ago, leaving a wife and two young daughters. Several other of my high school classmates were changed emotionally from their experiences in that war.

Please don’t paint all of us boomers as the same as the stereotype that has been drawn.

I get it at work, the nastiness against us by the Gen X and Gen Y people who like to make work “fun” while we do most of it. Since I work for an organization that does management training, they give classes on how the different generations want their work environment to be and how to help them get along and how to manage the different types. Then they also give seminars on “What the HELL are we going to do when the boomers all retire and we no longer have people with a real work ethic.”

Many, many, many, many of us boomers supported Hillary and McCain and are disgusted by today’s “standards” of journalism.

I, for one, doubt that the Investigations of William Ayers and Barack Obama will go any further than it did during the campaign.
The Press have their new “Kennedy’s”, and they will knock themselves out for the next four years to sell them to us as such. Does Barack Obama share the same fate as the Kennedy’s? I certainly hope not. We need to remember there are two young daughters who don’t call him Mr. President, they only call him Daddy.
That being said, I believe everything we know about Obama may someday become known to the world, but since I did not hang on to hope for a Hillary miracle after April, I know that I am not one of those who sits around holding their breath.
I am already tired of the McCain/Palin bashing. In fact, I am sickened by the McCain camp bashing Palin now that the Campaign is over. I don’t believe, or at least I hope I wouldn’t have to believe that McCain felt this way about Sarah, but I am sure that tempers can run high when numbers are dropping like a stone, and there seems to be no one to blame.
I don’t like Barack Obama; I doubt that I ever will. I never liked George Bush. Despite my distaste for all things W, I did realize he was my President, like it or not, and that as an American, I would rather try to support America and it’s place in the world, than to be one of the people who takes their bitterness, and unwillingness to accept defeat as a reason to pray for a failed Presidency.
I pray for wisdom, self control, love of America, love of family and God to be not only the attributes that most define me, but especially the traits that if Pres. Obama is lacking, he will be blessed to receive.
I am an American. I pray for the protection of our people, and so I feel I need to Hope for Obama to be a success.
Life has dealt me a lemon tree this Election when I thought I planted a Pomegranite, so for this disgruntled woman there are two choices, one of them is not an option, that being just to pout and cry, what will I do? I plan to open up a Lemonade stand.
I hope I see many of them cropping up around me.

I wish I was like Bill Ayers and had a rich daddy to help me escape overseas and not pay for my crimes. But not being rich and connected and all I would have to pay for my mistakes. Funny how Ayers barely knew a man he raised money for and sponsored to a prominent board. Yet he does not claim minimal knowledge of the Weather Underground.

Obama and Ayers children went to school together according to Axelrod. Does Obama have adult children we don’t know about?

You know, if the Weather Underground was staffed and supported by non-whites they’d still be in prison. But Ayers and wife got a free pass. That must be nice.

That doesn’t bother Black Americans either.

I think that most people, even younger people believe that all politicians are sleazes. So the young people are going to whip out their middle finger and vote for the younger, cooler, darker toned sleaze. Just look at JFK and “The Dark Side of Camelot”. Really, is Obama any worse than JFK in character? You can definitely label Obama and his cohorts misogynists, but whatever you call the lifestyle of JFK, I don’t believe he or his administration did much to elevate womanhood either.

As for Bill Ayers, I think what Jack Cashill has done examining Ayers as the probable ghost writer/editor for “Dreams From My Father” says as much about the Ayers/Obama relationship as anything that has come out so far.

The one aspect of this whole picture that bothers me more than anything is that it seems really unlikely that the FBI would abruptly lose interest in Ayers after his Weatherman-related charges were dismissed on a technicality. That would be stupid and very poor law enforcement in my opinion. I would think the FBI knows about Ayers associations. Strange that the Bush administration did not leak information to help fellow Republican, McCain. Maybe not so strange if they don’t want their fellow Republican to win the election.

Ayers himself reminds me of some smart-mouthed spoiled brat who at the age of 60+ years is still handing out those juvenile Leave It to Beaver deceptions…

“I think my relationship with Obama was probably like that of thousands of others in Chicago and, like millions and millions of others, I wished I knew him better.”

I wish I knew Obama better too. I wish I knew where he was born. I wish he would fill in all the blackened out spaces on his paper thin resume.

What a crock!

Bill Ayers Redux is anti-feminist because it is contentious with others definitions. That’s the crux of that type of anarchism.

That in my opinion is the fight we have to fight.

This issue of contention to others definitions needs to be dealt with.

Oh, that was laughable. Kinda’ like Barry’s, “I’ve always said I would renogotiate NAFTA” roflmao.

This is another thing that has me soooo WTF about the morons who voted for Obama. I wouldn’t let Billy Ayers pet my dogs. Never. Much less go to his home, or allow him in mine. It isn’t up for discussion. Not even if he had been repentant about what he did. But anyone who defends the man who on the worst day of America’s history said “I wish I had bombed more” and “America makes me puke” needs mental health care and a one way ticket to CUBA. This guy ONLY has his own freedom from jail time because his rich daddy bought him out of it. His rich daddy from Exelon, who funded Obama. No tin foil hat needed here. All of this is so obvious to someone with a brain. Oh, yeah, the Obama voters left those outside their polling locations.

Yeah, right, Billy Ayers is “just a guy in the neighborhood.” Nice of the MSM to cover this stuff up. When do you think they will tell the truth about this stuff?

Obama’s Exelon ties, Ayers connection

August 30, 2008

And then we have the Bill Ayers connection

Thomas G. Ayers (1915-2007)(left) is the father of Weather Underground leader and domestic terrorist—and Barack Obama’s friend, “neighbor” and boss of more than a decade—Bill Ayers (right).

Tom Ayers died in his Hyde Park home June 8, 2007. According to his obituary, Ayers was “president in 1964 and served as chairman and CEO from 1973 to 1980. He was the architect of ComEd’s nuclear power program in the 1960s and 1970s.” Following his tenure as CEO, Ayers continued as Chair of the Board of Trustees.

Another Ayers connection is through the Chicago law firm Sidley Austin, where Obama interned during Summer 1989. Here he met his future wife, Michelle Robinson. It was also the same law firm where Bill Ayers’ wife, Bernadine Dohrn, worked. The firm obviously had close ties to the Ayers family, including Tom Ayers.

Later, 1993 to 1996, Obama worked as an associate attorney at the Davis Miner and Barnhill law firm. Judson Miner was a friend of Tom Ayers.

Law professor Stephen Diamond, who blogs at Global Labor and Politics, wrote June 10, 2008:

As I have suggested in earlier posts here it is possible that Tom Ayers served as a mentor to the young Obama as far back as the time Obama spent as a community organizer on the south side of Chicago not far from Tom Ayers’ home in Hyde Park. Obama biographer David Mendell writes that Obama “had returned to Chicago from Harvard Law with an eye on the mayor’s office after witnessing Harold Washington’s historic tenure at city hall.” Tom Ayers’ founded Chicago United, Obama-led Developing Communities Project and Bill Ayers all worked on the same side in the Chicago school wars of the 1987-1988 time period.

My speculation – and, of course, since the Obama campaign won’t discuss these issues in any depth it remains speculation – is that Obama was seriously considering picking up the reins of the late immensely popular first black mayor of Chicago, Harold Washington, whose second term was cut tragically short when Washington had a heart attack in his office.

From his earliest days in Chicago, Barack Obama’s path has been intertwined with that of Bill Ayers, his father, Tom Ayers, and Exelon. There can be no doubt about this. None.

Young folks today don’t even know what the USSR and the cold war were all about, and consequently they don’t have any understanding of socialism or communism, but they have racism drummed into their heads from day one.

Didn’t we all read To Kill A Mockingbird in school? Why not Atlas Shrugged?

I didn’t get “it” till I was 40 or so…had to learn it on my own…school didn’t do squat for me in understanding the ways of the world. Our parents and grandparents lived through it all…they got “it” from life.

But I’ll tell you…MY children have learned a great deal from this election and the spirit of John Galt will live on!

I’m honestly not sure McCain and Palin had a chance this year against a candidate who is such a smooth, seamless liar; a national media that refused to challenge the lies or ever report on any hint of them; and, finally, a public that apparently no longer views patholigical lying as a character flaw.

The lies about Ayers, Wright, Rezko, and Khalidi. The lies about Hillary and McCain. The refusal to release any of the background information that every single candidate I can remember had to release.

How on earth could McCain and Palin conquer all that? God knows they tried…but how do you prove an opponent is lying almost every time he opens his mouth to people who refuse to listen?

McCain said he didn’t care about some washed up old terrorist, but he did care about what the relationship revealed about Obama’s honesty and character. Sadly, the majority of American voters don’t give a damn.

here’s what Bill Ayers is about:

wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77407

‘Bill Ayers forced me to have sex’ with roommate
Woman speaking out to counter reports excusing behavior of ex-domestic terrorist

JERUSALEM – Speaking out as William Ayers becomes an increasingly controversial figure in the presidential campaign, a woman charges the former Weather Underground radical locked her in his attic apartment when both were college students and intimidated her into having sex with his brother and his black roommate.

The woman, Donna Ron, told WND Ayers declared to her during the 1965 incident at the University of Michigan that if she didn’t sleep with his roommate, it would mean she was a bigot and a racist.

“I was terrified. People underestimate terrorism by psychological intimidation. I felt like I was being held prisoner,” recalled Ron, an American who now resides in Israel.

Ron told WND the alleged incident occurred during her freshmen year at the university, where she became attracted to anti-war activism. She had been friends with Ayers for about two months. Ayers later earned a bachelor’s degree from Michigan.

Ron says she supports Sen. Barack Obama and hopes her charges don’t affect his bid for the White House. She’s involved in a socialist kibbutz movement in Israel.

Ayers did not return a WND request for comment.

Ayers helped form an education organization chaired by Obama, and the two later served on a non-profit board and appeared together at various speaking events. Obama launched his political career with a fundraiser at Ayers’ home in Chicago’s Hyde Park neighborhood, where Obama also lives.

Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin has brought up Ayers on the campaign trail this week, charging Obama had been “palling around with terrorists who would target their own country.”

Ayers, now a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, has admitted to involvement in the bombings of U.S. governmental buildings in the 1970s, including the U.S. Capitol in 1971. He told the New York Times in an interview released Sept. 11, 2001, “I don’t regret setting bombs.”

‘Young ideologues on the make’

Ron previously recounted the alleged incident in a column published in 2006 by FrontPageMag.com (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=9E8CD8A7-E90B-4311-8AA9-AEFD014A14B2)

It was at the Undergraduate Library at the University of Michigan on a Friday night in November 1965. … Billy Ayers was standing on the first floor and started talking to me.
I thought he was cute. There seemed to be jovial kind of instant connection between us. … Despite the caution I’d learned about young ideologues on the make, I was charmed by Bill Ayers and by his savvy talk of politics and the children’s school he was involved with.

He asked me to go to a party with him and I did. I have a vague memory of the house where the party was and the people there. I think he got quite drunk and I suppose I drank too. I remember walking home with him. He was very open about himself and told me he was one of five children and that he was from Chicago and that his father was rich.

I felt comfortable with Bill. Throughout my life I had always had a friendly buddy-kind of connection with certain boys and felt that I was developing such a connection with him.

I remember going back to his attic apartment – he describes it in his book “Fugitive Days.” He had a roommate – a black man who was 23 and married with children. There was a couch, a table, a stereo and a sink in the room. There were two beds – Ayers’ and his roommate’s on each side of the attic wall. I slept with him there.

I came there a few times to talk and to listen to his LPs. I especially loved Glen Yarbrough’s album “Come Share My Life.” I met Bill’s roommate who also worked at the children’s school. I also met Bill’s younger brother Rick. Bill was a year older than I and his brother was a year younger. He spent a lot of time at Bill’s apartment.

What I do recall is that when I was getting ready to leave Ayers told me I couldn’t go until I slept with his roommate and his brother. At this point Bill and I had slept together just once. I was sexually inexperienced, having had only one serious boyfriend with whom I had recently broken up.

At first I thought Ayers was joking. I got up; and went to the door. He moved quickly to block me at the doorway. He locked the door and put the chain on it. I went to the couch and sat down and told him that I had no intention of having sex with his roommate and his brother or him.

He said that I had no choice but to do as he said if I wanted to get out of there. He claimed that I wouldn’t sleep with his married roommate because he was black – that I was a bigot. I had gone to school with black kids and had them as friends all my life. I couldn’t believe he was saying that to me.

I felt trapped. I had to get out of the situation I was in and because he was so effective a guilt-tripper, I also felt I had to prove to him that I wasn’t a bigot. I got up from the couch and walked over to the black roommate’s bed and put myself on it and he f—–d me.

Ron wrote that while having sex with Ayers’ roommate she “went totally out of my body,” a description commonly used by rape victims.

“I floated beside myself on the outside and above the bed looking at this black stranger f— me angrily while I hated myself,” she wrote.

“After that I had to go lie down on Bill Ayer’s bed for his brother to screw me. Rick Ayers was a decent person, unlike his brother, and couldn’t go through with it. He started and stopped and let me go. I also thought I had to let Bill screw me but at that point he unbolted the door and I left.” ‘There was no way out’

Ron said she did not immediately report the incident, because she was in shock, and because in the 1960s the term date rape did not exist.

She said she felt like she was “psychologically raped” by Ayers.

“I felt like I was being held prisoner,” she told WND. “I remember sitting on the couch and he kept badgering me and stood over me. At the time, it was clear for me there was no way out if I didn’t do what he wanted me to do.”

She told WND her experience caused her enormous trauma and psychological suffering and that she has undergone years of therapy.

“One of my friends recently pointed out to me how the experience actually colored my life and caused me to do all sorts of things,” she said.

“What had happened affected my ability to trust in a relationship with a man, and I didn’t have a close relationship again for a long time,” said Ron.

Ron said she eventually moved to Israel, where she is now involved in non-profit resource and program development, and was not aware Ayers had reestablished himself as a respected teacher and leader in education in Chicago until he published his memoir, “Fugitive Days,” in 2001.

She said she was compelled to speak out this week only after reading multiple media reports she said attempted to excuse Ayers’ behavior during his Weathermen years.

“How could people accept him back into society as if he did nothing wrong? He may still be having a detrimental influence on people. I have many concerns about speaking out, but I think people need to know who Bill Ayers really is,” she told WND.

‘I feel we didn’t do enough’

Ayers, as WND has reported, was a key member of the Weathermen, a band of revolutionaries who declared war on the U.S. government and the free enterprise system during the 1970s, and has written about his involvement in bombing the New York City police headquarters in 1970, the Capitol in 1971 and the Pentagon in 1972.

He told the New York Times in an interview released Sept. 11, 2001, “I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.” He posed for a photograph accompanying the piece that shows him stepping on an American flag.

Ayers last month wrote on his blog he still feels not enough was done to oppose the Vietnam War, although he clarified, “I don’t think violent resistance is necessarily the answer, but I do think opposition and refusal is imperative.”

Ayers’ wife, Bernadine Dohrn, also has served on panels with Obama. Dohrn was once on the FBI’s Top 10 Most Wanted List and was described by J. Edgar Hoover as the “most dangerous woman in America.” Ayers and Dohrn raised the son of Weathermen terrorist Kathy Boudin, who was serving a sentence for participating in a 1981 murder and robbery that left four people dead.

The charges against Ayers and Dohrn were dropped in 1974 because, as the New York Times reported, “it was ruled the government’s case was based on illegal wiretaps.”

That’s Bill Ayers.

The New Yorker needs a new editor. Hendrick Hertzberg writes a predictable Obama-fawning Talk of the Town column every week. George Packer is now quoting Andrew Sullivan as a credible source.

Hertzberg appears on the Tweety Matthews show and they share leg-tingles.

And now this – a Bill Ayers interview. They should have run this BEFORE the election.

Whitey.