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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/11/economicmarket-highlights-1110/#comment-1028764</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Pres Bush should state he will not be throwing more tax dollars at the private Auto Corporations.  We have consistently been aiding their failing businesses and if the Democratic Congress wants to give more tax dollars to these private businesses, they&#039;ll have to do it on their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Pres Bush should state he will not be throwing more tax dollars at the private Auto Corporations.  We have consistently been aiding their failing businesses and if the Democratic Congress wants to give more tax dollars to these private businesses, they&#8217;ll have to do it on their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Librarian</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/11/economicmarket-highlights-1110/#comment-1027567</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers guys. Maybe USA will go the way of the USSR Just devolve one morning into separate republics.

The current red /blue states would be a good splice.

There are many parallels  which I can see -having visited the USSR in 83.

The bad news is they were Bankrupt but the good news is it was achieved with barely one loss of life.

USSR 1990 = USA 2015</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers guys. Maybe USA will go the way of the USSR Just devolve one morning into separate republics.</p>
<p>The current red /blue states would be a good splice.</p>
<p>There are many parallels  which I can see -having visited the USSR in 83.</p>
<p>The bad news is they were Bankrupt but the good news is it was achieved with barely one loss of life.</p>
<p>USSR 1990 = USA 2015</p>
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		<title>By: Linda C.</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/11/economicmarket-highlights-1110/#comment-1027144</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pittsburgh National Corp (PNC) &quot;borrowed&quot; the tax payers money and bought out National City Bank. I am unsure if it was an &quot;arranged deal&quot; or PNC saw an opportunity to take the money and expand their business.  There doesn&#039;t seem to be any regulations on what banks can or cannot do with the money once they get it.

As a side thought I wonder if the unions could now buy the Big Three stock. It would be risky, but who better to take the risk than the employees who may get the benefit. We can&#039;t afford to loose any more  heavy industry.

I get my financial advice from Lou Dobbs and never from those experts.  Over 2 years ago Lou Dobbs reported that over a trillion dollars of variable rate mortgage financing was going to be readjusted within the next 18 months.  I started to move around the pension funds then switching over to T-Bills.

I also agree that China will finance their stimulus by dumping part of their US dollars.  I also would like to remind everyone that Hillary Clinton warned of this possible scenario and its devastating implications.  This will destroy the dollar.  The price of oil will skyrocket since it is set in US dollars.  This will give impetus to set the price of oil in Euros. We will be forced to contend with a reality of what it truly means to be a debtor nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pittsburgh National Corp (PNC) &#8220;borrowed&#8221; the tax payers money and bought out National City Bank. I am unsure if it was an &#8220;arranged deal&#8221; or PNC saw an opportunity to take the money and expand their business.  There doesn&#8217;t seem to be any regulations on what banks can or cannot do with the money once they get it.</p>
<p>As a side thought I wonder if the unions could now buy the Big Three stock. It would be risky, but who better to take the risk than the employees who may get the benefit. We can&#8217;t afford to loose any more  heavy industry.</p>
<p>I get my financial advice from Lou Dobbs and never from those experts.  Over 2 years ago Lou Dobbs reported that over a trillion dollars of variable rate mortgage financing was going to be readjusted within the next 18 months.  I started to move around the pension funds then switching over to T-Bills.</p>
<p>I also agree that China will finance their stimulus by dumping part of their US dollars.  I also would like to remind everyone that Hillary Clinton warned of this possible scenario and its devastating implications.  This will destroy the dollar.  The price of oil will skyrocket since it is set in US dollars.  This will give impetus to set the price of oil in Euros. We will be forced to contend with a reality of what it truly means to be a debtor nation.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/11/economicmarket-highlights-1110/#comment-1026833</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LD, thanks for the read &#039;em &#039;n weep appraisal.

My other comment got snagged on a tree limb I guess. Just wanted to say thanks for posting it and to NQ for the forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LD, thanks for the read &#8216;em &#8216;n weep appraisal.</p>
<p>My other comment got snagged on a tree limb I guess. Just wanted to say thanks for posting it and to NQ for the forum.</p>
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		<title>By: waldenpond</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/11/economicmarket-highlights-1110/#comment-1026810</link>
		<dc:creator>waldenpond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a great piece.  I actually laughed at how moronic some people are.  Peter has been doing this for a long time.

I have been beating this drum for three years.  I wasn&#039;t comfortable with housing and listened to the few voices of reality.  I told a friend not to buy while we refused to up-size and ran from real estate 3 years ago.  We dumped stock and put resources into cds and cash two years ago knowing what would happen to the market.  I had no sympathy for my friend who lost his house and no sympathy with those swimming in debt.

I do have sympathy for those stuck in the middle.  I am pissed I have to bail out others when we have lived within our means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a great piece.  I actually laughed at how moronic some people are.  Peter has been doing this for a long time.</p>
<p>I have been beating this drum for three years.  I wasn&#8217;t comfortable with housing and listened to the few voices of reality.  I told a friend not to buy while we refused to up-size and ran from real estate 3 years ago.  We dumped stock and put resources into cds and cash two years ago knowing what would happen to the market.  I had no sympathy for my friend who lost his house and no sympathy with those swimming in debt.</p>
<p>I do have sympathy for those stuck in the middle.  I am pissed I have to bail out others when we have lived within our means.</p>
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		<title>By: VinceP1974</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/11/economicmarket-highlights-1110/#comment-1026685</link>
		<dc:creator>VinceP1974</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. The message came in email but this is the link he referred to.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Peter Schiff Was Right 2006 - 2007 (2nd Edition)&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. The message came in email but this is the link he referred to.</p>
<p><a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw" rel="nofollow">Peter Schiff Was Right 2006 &#8211; 2007 (2nd Edition)</a></p>
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		<title>By: justsomeone</title>
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		<dc:creator>justsomeone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NorthWest Rain, I think the justification for the hard credit hits is HOMELAND SECURITY. Somehow screwing with your credit score is suppose to clear you of being a lousey terrorist or money laundry, but I don&#039;t really know &#039;cause I can&#039;t get any clear answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NorthWest Rain, I think the justification for the hard credit hits is HOMELAND SECURITY. Somehow screwing with your credit score is suppose to clear you of being a lousey terrorist or money laundry, but I don&#8217;t really know &#8217;cause I can&#8217;t get any clear answers.</p>
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		<title>By: waldenpond</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/11/economicmarket-highlights-1110/#comment-1026571</link>
		<dc:creator>waldenpond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.... I feel like a conspiracy theorist.. I remember some Mexican politico sniggering they would take back territory without ever firing a shot (through illegal immigration, for which you will soon have shamnesty as both parties pander to Hispanics and to Corporate greed for ever cheaper labor) and non-Democratic countries would take us out through our economy.  Has no one listened to Lou Dobbs for the last 10 years?

As soon as the market implosion happened, the countries communicated and reached some basic agreements, which China apparently violated the very next day.

Do you have a link?  I would like to see the youtube piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230;. I feel like a conspiracy theorist.. I remember some Mexican politico sniggering they would take back territory without ever firing a shot (through illegal immigration, for which you will soon have shamnesty as both parties pander to Hispanics and to Corporate greed for ever cheaper labor) and non-Democratic countries would take us out through our economy.  Has no one listened to Lou Dobbs for the last 10 years?</p>
<p>As soon as the market implosion happened, the countries communicated and reached some basic agreements, which China apparently violated the very next day.</p>
<p>Do you have a link?  I would like to see the youtube piece.</p>
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		<title>By: justsomeone</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/11/economicmarket-highlights-1110/#comment-1026568</link>
		<dc:creator>justsomeone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Northwest rain, I went back &amp; reread your post, &quot;(And credit checks to deposit money???? WTF is that?)&quot; Thanks, I need the empathy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Northwest rain, I went back &amp; reread your post, &#8220;(And credit checks to deposit money???? WTF is that?)&#8221; Thanks, I need the empathy.</p>
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		<title>By: waldenpond</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/11/economicmarket-highlights-1110/#comment-1026546</link>
		<dc:creator>waldenpond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Summers is a Dem? (sarcasm)

Few were writing about Obama&#039;s associates.  Some of us were callng Obama Bush III from the beginning.

There was another article saying Obama had to pick Summers.  Obama needs to give the little people on both sides something, but that he needs to pick people like Summers to send a clear message that he is putting the country first not any constituency (of course it was an article by a far-right conservative who feels Obama needs to give several good kicks in the teeth to the left)

An article by a Dem said Obama needed to pick Summers because he is the best the Dems have to offer and Obama needed to prove he would not consider &#039;ideology&#039;.  If Summers personal beliefs are to be ignored, the far-right should be very reassured about Obama&#039;s slant towards the Supreme Court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Summers is a Dem? (sarcasm)</p>
<p>Few were writing about Obama&#8217;s associates.  Some of us were callng Obama Bush III from the beginning.</p>
<p>There was another article saying Obama had to pick Summers.  Obama needs to give the little people on both sides something, but that he needs to pick people like Summers to send a clear message that he is putting the country first not any constituency (of course it was an article by a far-right conservative who feels Obama needs to give several good kicks in the teeth to the left)</p>
<p>An article by a Dem said Obama needed to pick Summers because he is the best the Dems have to offer and Obama needed to prove he would not consider &#8216;ideology&#8217;.  If Summers personal beliefs are to be ignored, the far-right should be very reassured about Obama&#8217;s slant towards the Supreme Court.</p>
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		<title>By: waldenpond</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/11/economicmarket-highlights-1110/#comment-1026488</link>
		<dc:creator>waldenpond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh goody.... AIG just had a $343,000 party. Open your window, here come&#039;s another scream.

Sh!t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh goody&#8230;. AIG just had a $343,000 party. Open your window, here come&#8217;s another scream.</p>
<p>Sh!t.</p>
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		<title>By: LD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have hit the nail right on the head. While on the one hand the governemtn does not want transparency in this particular program to protect the specific banks and the taxpayers, on th eother hand the governemtn will not share with the taxpayers the extent of the problem because that would increase the level of anxiety. You are spot on. 

I personally think and have tried to highlight here that there are upwards of $1 tillion in embedded losses in our banking system over and above the app 500-600million that has already been recognized. 

The losses in the insurance companies and hedge funds could be of a similar magnitude. 

Thus we are facing another 2-3trillion in losses.

No, you will not hear that from the powers that be. Again , they believe that they are doing us all a service by protecting us from that info because it would cause further panic in the markets and the economy but that&#039;s the reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have hit the nail right on the head. While on the one hand the governemtn does not want transparency in this particular program to protect the specific banks and the taxpayers, on th eother hand the governemtn will not share with the taxpayers the extent of the problem because that would increase the level of anxiety. You are spot on. </p>
<p>I personally think and have tried to highlight here that there are upwards of $1 tillion in embedded losses in our banking system over and above the app 500-600million that has already been recognized. </p>
<p>The losses in the insurance companies and hedge funds could be of a similar magnitude. </p>
<p>Thus we are facing another 2-3trillion in losses.</p>
<p>No, you will not hear that from the powers that be. Again , they believe that they are doing us all a service by protecting us from that info because it would cause further panic in the markets and the economy but that&#8217;s the reality.</p>
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		<title>By: justsomeone</title>
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		<dc:creator>justsomeone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Banks At Risk If Not Part of rescue Plan&quot; Dow Jones News 11/06/08.  This story is scary &amp; implies alot of  regional banks could soon go under. That ought to do alot for confidence. I&#039;m kinda blown away that no one is ticked (other than me) that banks are now running hard credit checks on depositors that lower their credit scores. It makes the adage, &quot;we need to save more&quot; a friggin&#039; joke! The fact that there are no laws/regulations governing how the credit agencies report is part of the bs ailing this country. The ratings agencies like S&amp;P, Moodys, Fitch, etc are just as arbitrary. False financial portraits should not be allowed. S&amp;P will give a company a AA+ rating &amp; then trash them. How is one to know how to invest? Interesting little story around noon on CNBC (that hasn&#039;t developed legs) Henry Paulson &amp; Griffin were shorting financials etc before the decline &amp; these are the guys that are suppose to be fixing everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Banks At Risk If Not Part of rescue Plan&#8221; Dow Jones News 11/06/08.  This story is scary &amp; implies alot of  regional banks could soon go under. That ought to do alot for confidence. I&#8217;m kinda blown away that no one is ticked (other than me) that banks are now running hard credit checks on depositors that lower their credit scores. It makes the adage, &#8220;we need to save more&#8221; a friggin&#8217; joke! The fact that there are no laws/regulations governing how the credit agencies report is part of the bs ailing this country. The ratings agencies like S&amp;P, Moodys, Fitch, etc are just as arbitrary. False financial portraits should not be allowed. S&amp;P will give a company a AA+ rating &amp; then trash them. How is one to know how to invest? Interesting little story around noon on CNBC (that hasn&#8217;t developed legs) Henry Paulson &amp; Griffin were shorting financials etc before the decline &amp; these are the guys that are suppose to be fixing everything.</p>
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		<title>By: waldenpond</title>
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		<dc:creator>waldenpond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oy, that is just counterintuitive to market principles.  That is what transparency is for... so that investors and consumers can make informed decisions about the viability of the company.

Non-transparency resolved with non-transparency because the Govt and their corporacratic shills think it&#039;s &#039;good for us&#039;?  Open you window, you can hear me scream from here.  :)

My belief?  Screw the paternalistic view in this country that issues are just too complicated for the morons of main street to understand so govt is going to take care of it for us.  Dump the data.. the experts always digest it and put it into terms people at every level can understand.

People shouldn&#039;t invest in banks that are participating in loans with crap for collateral, but investors aren&#039;t allowed to know which banks?  Won&#039;t investors be compelled to ignore the industry as a whole thus negating the mis-guided efforts of our Govt?  If I was a non-participating bank I would be shouting it from the rooftops for my shareholders but would I be surprised the corporacrats have agreed to secrecy at the expense of their shareholders? No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oy, that is just counterintuitive to market principles.  That is what transparency is for&#8230; so that investors and consumers can make informed decisions about the viability of the company.</p>
<p>Non-transparency resolved with non-transparency because the Govt and their corporacratic shills think it&#8217;s &#8216;good for us&#8217;?  Open you window, you can hear me scream from here.  <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My belief?  Screw the paternalistic view in this country that issues are just too complicated for the morons of main street to understand so govt is going to take care of it for us.  Dump the data.. the experts always digest it and put it into terms people at every level can understand.</p>
<p>People shouldn&#8217;t invest in banks that are participating in loans with crap for collateral, but investors aren&#8217;t allowed to know which banks?  Won&#8217;t investors be compelled to ignore the industry as a whole thus negating the mis-guided efforts of our Govt?  If I was a non-participating bank I would be shouting it from the rooftops for my shareholders but would I be surprised the corporacrats have agreed to secrecy at the expense of their shareholders? No.</p>
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		<title>By: getfitnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>getfitnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you LD for your insight and expertise. I&#039;ll keep reading and learning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you LD for your insight and expertise. I&#8217;ll keep reading and learning.</p>
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