FOUR QUESTIONS
By Dr. Kate on November 13, 2008 at 10:30 PM in Citizenship, Civil Liberties, Civil Rights, DNC, Disenfranchisement, Electoral College, Federal Elections Commission, Political Strategy, Supreme Court
It has taken the better part of a year, and specifically the last six months of this election season, for committed citizen journalists at NoQuarter and many other blogsites to do the research on Barack Obama that the media, the democratic national committee, and our Congress should have done. Although our collective knowledge of Barack Obama and the concerns of his candidacy came too late to make a difference in this election, for all our hard work, we were successful in shedding some light on the content of his character: his associations, his deeds, his family relations, his friends, his stewardship, his patriotism, his potential agenda, and the startling depth of his secrecy.
Now that we have “un-muddied” the water…..we stand on the edge of a caldera* with no idea of the complexity, depth, explosiveness, nor unpredictability of this phenomenon we have all witnessed in the rise of Barack Obama! We as a country have never actually been here before, standing at the edge, except perhaps in the election of 1860. One realizes at once the perils of both diving into that hot pool of water or running away to avoid the explosion….
While there seems to be little evidence that we will ever fully know Obama, nor avoid the explosion change he will bring, there is a way we can learn from this experience such that our Country will never again be faced with someone who is truly unknown, inexperienced, untested, and feels (to me anyway) uncommitted to America. We can use the 2008 experiences to also highlight and then design strategies to ensure that every political party is responsive to its constituents, and that our Constitution is really a living document.
The Constitution is by and for “we the people”; therefore “we the people” must make it work and not rely on any political party to sell America to the highest bidder.
FOUR QUESTIONS
I bring forward four questions that get to the heart of our rights, as American citizens, to ensure that our government and its leaders are indeed qualified to lead our great country. By extension, these questions can be used as windows to other potential areas where we the people do not yet have redress.
These questions are miraculously (given procedural errors and existing judgments)before the Supreme Court with the requirement that President-elect Obama respond to them by December 1, 2008.
While I have not kept track of the Berg v. Obama case for many reasons, it truly is miraculous that Justice Souter granted the writ of certiorari. Even if, as some have said, Souter’s action is not significant and procedural only, how Obama responds will reveal much about his view of the Constitution and will determine if the Supreme Court decides to hear the case.
In my opinion, the questions raised by Berg and the questions raised in the case should not have been thrown out entirely based on standing alone, or by the notion that the injury to a voter is “vague”. The Supreme Court Rules permit the grant of a writ of certiorari only under specific circumstances.
The questions presented for review are:
- Whether a citizen of the United States has standing to challenge the Constitutional qualifications of a Presidential nominee under the “natural born citizen clause” [Article II of the U.S. Constitution] when deprivation of the right to such a challenge would result in the infringement of a citizen’s Constitutional right to vote?
- Isn’t it true that no one has the responsibility to ensure a United States Presidential candiate is eligible to serve as President of the United States?
- Are there proper steps for a voter to ensure a Presidential Candidate is qualified and eligible to serve as President of the United States?
- Isn’t it true that there are not any checks and balances to ensure the qualifications and eligibiity of a Presidential Candidate to serve as President of the United States?
The “questions presented for review” in the the writ require Obama’ response. Notice that answering these questions does not require Obama to produce a birth certificate, but to answer why he does not have to prove himself eligible.
Although we cannot predict Obama’s answers, based on past legal motions submitted in the lower court case, Obama may indeed argue that (1)a citizen does not have standing, (2) that no one has responsibility to ensure eligibility, (3) that there are no proper steps for a citizen to ensure qualifications, and (4) that there are no checks and balances that exist today to ensure a candidate is qualified. It is also possible Obama would argue that the 14th Amendment permits “naturalized citizens” and “dual citizens” to be known as “American citizens” and thereby satisfies the requirements of Article II.
I think these questions may have Obama boxed in. If he intends not release his COLB, citizenship records, etc, Obama would then practically argue a big “FU” to the U.S. Supreme Court and say in effect “I don’t have to respond to this because there is no law, no avenue for citizens, and no checks and balances that require me to do so.” He will argue technicalities in how to disregard the Constitution. I wonder how the Supreme Court might respond to that?
If Obama responds in any other way, he will be forced to disclose and or describe why, how, and what steps citizens can take to assure the POTUS’s eligibility, and perhaps then he may be forced prove his eligibility to serve as POTUS under Article II. Alternatively he could be forced to concede that there are no procedures to ensure eligibility of a person for POTUS. Would the Supreme Court order him then to produce his documentation according to the original suit filed by Berg?
One item of interest is how Obama responds to Question 4, on the existence of checks and balances to assure eligibility. One would assume procedurally that “checks and balances” could mean legislative processes, acts, bills, or resolutions that would act as those “checks and balances”. Here is where Obama could argue that the Senate Resolution passed by Leahy, Obama, and McCatskill on John McCain’s eligibility applies. This resolution could be seen as an attempt by the three Senators to create a blanket provision for a naturalized citizen to be eligible to serve as POTUS. In other words, Obama could argue that the checks and balances already exist and this resolution suffices (notice this is not a bill).
Justice Souter will then hear Berg’s response to Obama’s legal argument before deciding where the case goes next, including whether the full Supreme Court will take the issue up. Remember that Souter’s clerks have all the lower court material and reviewed it before Souter granted the writ of certioriari.
How does the Supreme Court react? Will it order the production of Obama’s documents? Will it order the FEC, electors, or Congress to verify his eligibility, or develop verification procedures? Will they say that the 14th Amendment really did modify Article II criteria? Will they dismiss the case?
And how, in the meantime, are we to ever know about Barack Obama? Is the burden of proof really on America (Berg), or on Barack Obama? Is it up to your empoyer to find out who you are, or is it up to you as an employee to provide your documentation? Isn’t Obama supposed to be working for America?
Implications for the Future
The four questions presented to the U.S. Supreme Court in 2008 will have a lasting and enduring effect on the course of the American Constitution in the next decade or more, and will continue to feed the growing doubts about Obama’s intentions in the next four years.
Just my suspician, but I am beginning to get a more complete picture of why Obama has sealed all of his records, including college financial aid applications, papers, and coursework. I believe his financial aid applications reveal his foreign status; and I now see that his Columbia and Harvard papers could reveal his examination of the “weaknesses” of the U.S. Constitution and ways to “remedy” them using “administrative procedures”.
As I look at the scope of research on the issue of eligibility during this election season, I note that nearly all have concluded that there are no checks and balances to assure the eligibility of a Presidential Candidate, that no one is responsible, and that indeed citizens and voters have very little recourse to ask these questions. The Supreme Court has never been presented with this question before on Article II eligibility. I doubt that they will duck their responsibilities to protect the constitution.
It appears that up until this time, it has been assumed that every candidate and POTUS has met Article II qualifications. We assume that in fact no one would dare to run for and claim the Presidency if he/she didn’t meet the qualifications of the Constitution. Looks like our age of innocence is over.
It appears that we will have to craft legislation to assure eligibility criteria are met for the POTUS, and to assign appropriate responsibilities to assure so. If the country wants to amend the Constitution to allow naturalized or dual citizens to serve as POTUS, then we have that mechanism, wherein 75% of the states have to ratify.
The four questions to the Supreme Court also remind me of other areas in which we voters do not have redress when something goes wrong. Although I am now an “unaffiliated” voter, having left the democratic party after November 4th, it also appears that democrats do not have an avenue of redress when the DNC and RBC violate party rules as they did in this case to deny Hillary Clinton the nomination. In addition, we now know that caucuses can be gamed, and do not serve the interests of democracy or provide a fair representation of the strength of our party’s candidates. Because of the DNC, RBC and Obama’s gaming of the system with caucus fraud, the blatant use of race and misogyny to silence critics, we are witnessing the democrats begin the disintegration of the “democratic brand”. I am sure there are issues in the Republican party after GWB destroyed the “republican brand”. We all need a detox from our respective koolaid brands in order to really see clearly.
What is next for our country? Well, if we don’t want to dive into that hot pool, we’d better start creating an alternative vision. A line in one of my favorite movies, The Shawshank Redemption, sums it up for me:
“…get busy livin’, or get busy dyin’…”
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I don’t see the pending legal challenges succeeding in this koolaid induced climate but applaud anyone for trying.
I contend that not only did they vett Senator Obama they found him to be exactly what they were looking for. By covering up and keeping quiet he now owes and owes big. All these little tidbits about him that were never reported are just insurance. Insurance that he’ll do what he is supposed to do instead of what he actually wants to do. I certainly didn’t see it coming when I read today that Obama was going to continue basically the same policies that Bush had concerning torture. What else isn’t changing? What I had hoped for would appears to be DOA. I hoped that we’d have a strong president with a weakened adminisistration. Seems we are going to get the SOS with a weak president and a strong administration. Seems Biden is already pulling a Chaney, more troops, enlarge the theater, torture detainees and what else?
With all the smoke and mirrors in the campaign its no surprise we are in store for more surprises.
So what you see is an emasculated eunuch president being led on a leash by Biden?
Please — got links — where did you see that he is going to continue the same policies on Bush re torture — I’m sure we’d like to blast far and wide…
Thanks.
And Dr. Kate, thank you for a beautifully written and thoughtful post.
We need to get back to a place of critical thought in this country and remember the principles it was founded on and start fighting for them. Rather than allowing the koolaid sippers in the DNC and media to feed us the morsels they deem fit.
We the People need to take back control over OUR government - for we are the government — not GWB, not BHO, not George Soros or any other shadow power.
Enough is enough!
Great post, by the way!
my new cause is shrinking the federal government and getting power back to the states. the corruption and bloating of the federal government has long since exploded beyond all rational proportion. there is no way to stop it except to get power and money back to where citizens can exercise more control over their government.
While I thoroughly agree with you about shrinking the government, why stop at federal? That is why I found myself supporting the Republicans. When I contrasted the messages of “give me mine” verus “get out of my way and let me make my own,” I was stunned at how truly black and white it is. You think that the states are less corrupt? I don’t see it and I have lived in three different ones.
No. Less government is better government.
I think this is the crux of the matter.
Barry Goldwater would have been a “good” case for SCOTUS to clarify the meaning of Article II. If they pass on the Obama case, it will only get worse in the future.
Great post Kate, Thank you so much for this article, and your statement that i especially want to rehash
We the People are the ones who ultimately make the Constitution work, or let it fail. It works as well as we choose to allow it to work. Every day, every year, every election, each of us are obligated in the capacity that we have to ensure that it keeps functioning. We will, and and the questions we discuss here are not going away; they are not only being entertained by a handful of people. Every couple of years, we get to cast a vote, but every single day we get the chance to speak the truth to some one else around us.
Keep on speaking the truth!
Right on! If you don’t use it, you lose it.
Politically correct speech is stifling and could prove to be the death of America.
Speak out! Speak the truth! Don’t let anyone silence you.
drkate, I cannot thank you enough for this well framed, beautifully written article. We have suddenly found ourselves at a place that we not only never expected, but didn’t even know existed: the extreme, chillingly frightening HUBRIS of an individual and his promoters have almost succeeded in not only violating the tenets of the most hallowed document in our history, but, worst yet, keeping it from the American people to such an extent that, when the issue is raised, the messenger is either dismissed as a crackpot or labeled a racist, sometimes both.
The very idea that such an outrage could even occur is disturbing; the fact that the plan got this far without being reported is bone chilling.
This case is historic. Never in our history has a Pretender risen so fast from a steaming pile of obfuscation, completely unknown, undetected, and unrepentant. And yet–not one “news” outlet has even reported it! Tass, Pravda and Goebbels have nothing on American media. The chronic propagandizing and cover up as they assisted his assent has been, in itself, mind numbing.
And so, we who have awakened from the hopium hangover, and we who have never imbibed are compelled to find and speak the truth like never before. I thank everyone who is willing to take a stand and fight for our country and our Constitution and I am moved to my core with the vast numbers of New Patriots.
In our system the president serves as both the head of state and the head of government. I believe what America did in 2008 was to elect a head of state only: someone to ceremonially represent the United States to the world, to make us look good and feel good. Voters were indifferent this year to the notion of electing a head of government who could actually lead. Meanwhile, we stand leaderless while the auto industry teeters on the brink. But our head of state is doing his job in picking out a puppy for the first family.
Based on Opampers political upbringing his inaction domestically is arguably better than him tinkering around? I guess its a good think ol’ Biden will be running things? I know I’m grasping here for even a faint glimmer of hope.
I think Obama’s leanings are far left, but his personal style has been to avoid making decisions. That is not such a good thing when immediate action is required, as with the auto industry.
Massachusetts is living with a Axelgoebbles media creation Governor and from what I can tell they are not too thrilled with him. I don’t think its a stretch to assume a repeat lackluster performance from his latest American idol creation.
Right. We were soo eager to elect an AA governor we never asked about his ability, and Deval Patrick turned out to be another doofus. Massachusetts has had a long string of incompetent governors. Romney, too, arrived to cheers re his talents in financial matters. What a dud. Romney is another of those empty suits.
If Warren Buffet thinks that this is such a good time to invest in the US, let him buy the big three. I have little and no sympathy for the “big three.” Honda in Marysville, OH employs a lot of US workers. They aren’t looking for a handout. ENOUGH of this coddling of people who make bad business decisions. Hummer? Hummer II? Hummer f’ing III? Please. These people couldn’t build a SMART car if you spotted them the s m a r …..
I had a really hard time understanding why they just threw money at that same horrifically bad management…
Why didn’t they set conditions, such as a restructured business plan, the development of a fuel efficient cars, et al?
Why in the world would any sane person throw good money to a bunch of high strung, failed business clowns, whether the big three, or AIG, out of touch with reality?
I dont think I’ve ever seen a Congress more hysterical, to tell the truth, just bad decisions all around.
Yesterday, I got my December Vanity Fair, and looking at the Christmas ads, it would seem some are unaware we are in a recession, the economy contracting, the truth of the situation.
They didn’t speak to me, you know, it was more glitz and porn, and I thought, oh lord, your ad agencies havent’ left 2001, no thanks.
Same with Nordstrom, earnings are down, half, I think, of what was projected. I was visiting their site, not too long ago, as I need a new pair of jeans, but everything was still at 100.00 +.
That’s insane, why would I pay that much for a pair of jeans, it’s antithetical to the moment, yet they continue on as if the reality of the economic conditions is not relevant.
They are supposed to lead, yet they can’t see what is happening?
And then they question why their businesses fail?
KMART, CVS, Target, and others seem to have reduced prices, (K-Mart even going back to LayAway), same with some of the food chains, what is it with these bigger companies?
Bad, stupid, broken management, sorry, bottom line, useless corrupt CEO’s.
Amen. Spot on observation.
He is merely the puppet king and we do stand leaderless at one of the worst times in our history to be in such a situation.
“Meanwhile, we stand leaderless while the auto industry teeters on the brink. But our head of state is doing his job in picking out a puppy for the first family.”
Wow! J.J., this really says it all.
According to Allergists, there is no such thing as a “hypoallergenic” dog. So Obama is lying about that, too.
I have a very simple question for Obama. As per Obama’s writings, he had stated that as a young (19yrs. old) Occidental College student he had traveled to Pakistan in 1981. Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and ruled of martial law. Millions of Afghan refugees were living in Pakistan, while the Afghan Mujahedeen operated from bases inside Pakistan in their war with the Soviets. Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business. So, how was it that Obama, presumably a US citizen was able to enter? Did he enter illegally or did he use his Indonesian Passport? If the later, Indonesian did/does not recognize dual-citizenship, thus making Obama an Indonesian citizen. Obama please answer this simple question.
My understanding is that he went there to visit some college friends and their families. Who (with an American passport) goes to Pakistan on vacation in 1981?!?! Fishy. Very fishy. IMHO…
New York Times suggested ANYBODY could do it. See below.
All hail the NYT for goodness sake … what were we thinking?
Well, gee. It was only an article (which you clearly did not read) written in 1981 by someone who DID travel to Pakistan that year.
But that can’t possibly mean as much as an identical comment that was plastered all over a dozen blogs by one person a couple of months ago, with no backup then or now. Someone posted a comment on a blog, so it hasta be true!!
By the way, did you bother to try to verify it, or just ‘know’ the NYT made it all up in 1981 in order to cover for BO?
“Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business.”
Can you back up or provide a source for this assertion?
I have read this claim a dozen times, and have asked for substantiation each time. I have never gotten ANY response.
The only information I have EVER been able to find regarding travel to Pakistan in 1981 is a New York Times travel article June 14, 1981, describing how to obtain a free 30 day visa, and liquor is available in hotels and non-muslim tourists cannot visit Mosques on Fridays.
(this does not seem to want to post with link… search article>>)
New York Times
LAHORE, A SURVIVOR WITH A BITTERSWEET HISTORY
By BARBARA CROSSETTE; BARBARA CROSSETTE IS AN ASSISTANT NEWS EDITOR OF THE NEW YORK TIMES.
Published: June 14, 1981
Trying link one more time.
http:// (remove these spaces)
query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=travel&res=9F0DE2DA1338F937A25755C0A967948260
One of mine as well, Dr. Kate.
Senator Clinton and Governor Palin were those ladies.
Great read Dr. Kate. I will be waiting to see what happens on the 1st not hopin for much. We live in interesting times.
Whether a citizen of the United States has standing to challenge the Constitutional qualifications of a Presidential nominee under the “natural born citizen clause” [Article II of the U.S. Constitution] when deprivation of the right to such a challenge would result in the infringement of a citizen’s Constitutional right to vote?
My two cents: That is looking at the problem backwards. It’s not up to a citizen to do anything. There are laws. Not anybody can be president. There is at least minimum age, citizenship and length of time spent living in the US requirements. It’s not up to a citizen to ask if a candidate meets those requirements. It’s up to the candidate to prove that meet the requirements. By law certain requirements must be met. Whether anybody challenges a candidate’s requirements or not doesn’t matter.
Seems to me a candidate would have had to provide proof to the federal election commission that the candidate met the requirements before they could be a candidate for president. I don’t know I’m asking. Wouldn’t the FEC have proof a candidate is qualified? Anybody know if a candidate has to provide proof to the FEC that they met the requirements before they can run for president?
That’s not the way the way the law works though. Under the legal system, you can technically (not legally) do anything you want. The law only comes into effect if someone wants to punish you for doing these things, or if someone wants to change the current situation. To do either of these things, you need applicable laws, and you need to show how you have suffered damage (either press charges or bring about a civil suit.)
Just take the printing of money. According to the constitution, only the government may print money, yet the Federal Reserve, a private company, is currently in charge of printing money.
(Disclamer: I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.)
I see your point. If I break the speed limit while driving and there are no cops around then I don’t get a ticket. But the difference here is obama had to file with the FEC as a candidate for president. Isn’t there somewhere in the FEC filing papers where proof is requested from a candidate? If not why not?
Very interesting Dr. Kate. I am hoping Justice John Roberts who will be the justice swearing in Obama, and who is considered to be one of the more conservative justices, will not swear him in without absolute proof of natural born status. He apparently is 4 doors down from Souter’s office and I am sure has heard by now of the lawsuit. How I would love to be the proverbial fly on the wall and hear those conversations!
I don’t hold out much hope for anything happening with this, to tell you the truth. The FEC and everyone else, from media to elected officials, have gone out of their way to protect Obama at every turn and not “embarrass” him.
Certainly, if he were found ineligible, this would be so great an embarrassment to our nation around the world — and people would riot in the streets– but not for the reasons you think, either. We have spent 1 billion dollars on this election to elect a fraud — this man would have perpetrated a fraud of such a magnitude on this nation as to be unheard of.
Can you imagine the fallout?
I would like nothing better than for the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help them God to be revealed and ACTED UPON — but I fear, that no matter the law, in order to save such a grievous embarrassment, it, like everything else, will be swept under the rug.
If that is the case, once again, I am crying for my country.
We have spent 1 billion dollars on this election to elect a fraud
Ani, I hear you on that. However,I take the counter, perhaps the embarresment is that of a criminal enterprise being popped.
Every fairway has it’s divits, even Pebble beach… If the Supremes discharge the one, if not the most important obligation they will find BO wanting on the facts and the premise.
We certianly don’t have the facts as Berg and others have legally requested. The big thing I am looking for is weather, in this day and age, injury to the Constituion and not a person is allowed standing on the merits.
Merlin told me once, that all those that try for the sword will fail when the boots they arrived in are not thiers. Still they come.
The irony is that it has gone this far.
Pelican Brief Reduex.
Again Dr. Kate thanks.
The emporer has no clothes.
There is a grassroots movement backing up all the lawsuits right. 2 things…Write the Supreme Court Justices and write the electors who will officially be casting their vote for Obama on 12/15.
Address letters to:
The Honorable Associate Justice (Full Name)
United States Supreme Court
One First Street, N.E.,
Washington, D.C. 20543.
When writing to Chief Justice Roberts, please make sure the envelope is addressed to:
The Honorable John G. Roberts, Chief Justice of the United States
Sample letter:
Dear Honorable Associate Justice (last name), or, Chief Justice Roberts when writing him
I am writing to ask you to please uphold our constitution by verifying the eligibility of Barack Obama to be the President of the United States. There is much speculation and the only way for the country to feel secure that he is eligible is for you to settle this matter. I support the Case that is before the Supreme Court, Berg vs Obama, and the upholding and protecting our Constitution is for the benefit of ALL Americans.
Please request Barack Obama to present his birth certificate to the courts for verification. Please also request any citizenship papers showing he acquired U.S. citizenship when he moved from Indonesia back to Hawaii. This latter request is due to school records from Indonesia showing he was enrolled as Barry Soetero, with Indonesian citizenship. I believe that if you grant the request of Mr. Berg to have Mr. Obama produce all the documents then the rules of our Constitution can be upheld.
Thank you for your honorable service to our country and for upholding our constitution in these trying times.
Sincerely,
Send letters to the following:
John G. Roberts Jr., Chief Justice of the United States
The Supreme Court Associate Justices are as follows:
John Paul Stevens
Samuel A. Alito Jr.
Antonin Scalia
Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Anthony M. Kennedy
David H. Sauter
Clarence Thomas
Stephen G. Breyer
FYI, Supreme Court HELPFUL TELEPHONE NUMBERS
Public Information Office: 202-479-3211, Reporters press 1
Clerk’s Office: 202-479-3011
Visitor Information Line: 202-479-3030
Opinion Announcements: 202-479-3360
2. Write the electors to try to get the BC resolved. This is growing in power and 24 electors have agreed to be added to the lawsuits. You can do this on your own or visit the following website of Dr. Schell.
Dr. Douglas W. Schell has a site that has all the information one would need to write these, including a cover letter and attachments that will be added. Much has been added in just the last couple of days.
He has cover letters and other reference material available to use:
http://www.democratic-disaster.com/index.php?topic=291.0
I actually wrote Dr. Schell as the letter needs to have included in it the request for the citizenship papers. Use the letter, however, include the request in the above sample letter to the justices regarding the citizenship papers. This will need to be added in the initial request of the letter and also where Dr. Schell says he will drop the case when the birth certificate is verified. Just change it to say when birth certificate and citizenship papers are verified. You can modify it to use without his name, however, they are trying to keep track of who is writing and would like you to post. We want to make sure all states are covered.
Electors’ Names and Addresses
This is per state. There are 39 out of 50 states completed. It is still being added to so people need to check back frequently. Write your state and if you can write electors in other states, please do so.
http://americamustknow.com/electoralcollegecase.aspx
There are some state laws prohibiting electors in those states to change their vote.
I suggest focusing on the states that do allow them to switch before moving on to the other states.
The electors can still join the lawsuit and request the information.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-regi…lege/laws.html
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Also, if you want to write on your own without Dr. Schell’s. Here is another letter you can forward with yours. It was actually a press release.
This letter can be included as any electors can contact him to be added to the lawsuit. There is also a website link to check out.
The site that has info on writing the electors suggest certified/return receipt mail in case it is needed for court. It would be a good idea for any of these.
Excellent article, Dr. Kate! If the US Supreme Court fails this nation by dropping the ball on an honest inquiry into the citizenship of the man who would be our 44th President, God help us all. The way I see it, all that is required of Mr. Obama is to present a legitimate COLB. This would be a simple request for the vast majority of those born in the United States.
I wholeheartedly agree with your conclusion as to why Mr. Obama has conveniently sealed all documents having to do with his college years–admission, transcripts, etc. I would imagine a glance at his passport history would also be enlightening. There are ulterior motives underlying this president-elect’s refusal to be transparent despite the rigorous demands placed on other candidates throughout the vetting process.
Surely there is one honest judge sitting on the highest court in the land who would be interested in knowing whether or not Barack Obama is constitutionally qualified to be POTUS. We as Americans plead with that judge to hold this man accountable. The burden of proof should not be on us or on the courts; the burden of proof should rest squarely on the shoulders of Barack Obama.
Do all you people sit around all day just writing too each other about how much you hate Obama?
It’s time to move on.
Do you always go to blogs with opposing viewpoints, interrupt the conversation and order people about? It’s time to bite my left one.
Nah. Not time to move on. I hate his nasty lying cheating freaky azz. He is a CRIMINAL and I will go down with my last breath FORCING the MSM to tell the truth. YOU need to get a moral compass and a brain. The shitestain on America you work for is a complete disaster. YOU will be one of the lower class that is “forgotten.”
Dear Normal Person.
Yep, that is the only thing that gives meaning to my life. Thanks for your concern.
This is about the Constitution, dumbbell. It doesn’t matter who the candidate is.
5 or 10 pounds Cubs in 09?
You would think it was just a peace of paper the way some folk hold in it such high regard.
No. We sit here writing nasty things about him hoping that assholes like you will show up and give us a hearty laugh.
Why not take your own advice?
So, in addition to everything else that has happened during this election season, we could now be facing a Constitutional crisis.
Just when I thought it couldn’t get any worse. An important essay, Dr. Kate. Certainly a heads-up is in order for all of us. December 1st should be quite interesting. But I agree with OhioMary: how I would love to be the fly on the wall while this case is discussed.
Amazing!
The SCOTUS did not grant cert; Berg requested it to take cert. The Court gave BO until December 1 to respond to Berg’s request for cert. After receiving BO’s response to Berg’s filing, the Court will decide whether to take cert. This only means, it will decide whether it will review the case. If it does review the case, the Court acts as an appellate court. That is, it will review the lower court record for abuse of discretion or violation of law.
The 4 questions were asked by Berg. This is what he wants answered, if the Court grants his petition for cert.
As for where we go from here… Team jbjd is working on it.
Thank you jbjd for this clarification. From your past postings, I’ve come to trust your analysis.
Great read Dr Kate. Sorry to go OT but I saw this on Yahoo.
CHICAGO – Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is among the candidates that President-elect Barack Obama is considering for secretary of state, according to two Democratic officials in close contact with the Obama transition team.
Clinton, the former first lady who pushed Obama hard for the Democratic presidential nomination, was rumored to be a contender for the job last week, but the talk died down as party activists questioned whether she was best-suited to be the nation’s top diplomat in an Obama administration.
The talk resumed in Washington and elsewhere Thursday, a day after Obama named several former aides to President Bill Clinton to help run his transition effort.
The two Democratic officials who spoke Thursday did so on the condition of anonymity to avoid angering Obama and his staff. Clinton spokesman Philippe Reines referred questions to the Obama transition team, which said it had no comment.
Other people frequently mentioned for the State Department job are Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., and New Mexico’s Democratic governor, Bill Richardson.
Obama should not give the Secretary of State position to Hillary, since he has already promised it to each of the other three. Obama should keep at least one of his promises.
I’ll eat my hat and yours then I’ll buy you a new hat if Hillary ends up as SoS. More likely the obama camp will send out a 3:00am text message saying Hillary was never considered.
I wear a beanie with a propellor on top, lined with many layers of tin-foil. Bon appetit!
Good luck. He would never give her such a position. He has been efforting to marginalize her at every turn.
I just checked a news site and its the top story. Someone is spreading it for some reason.
Do you think it has any merit whatsoever though?
Trial balloon maybe? Maybe she gets the slot to appease the Hillary supporters? I really don’t have a clue why they would float the story.
balloon?
BO is the star of F Troop?
I do Galt, but that dog won’t hunt.
This IGIT will do anything to maintain the subtrafuge and spin.
Anything to draw the momentum away from PUMA and other forces that seek to fill the vacuum.
BO’s supply lines are over-extended.
How about just another shiv between the ribs when it turns out not to either be true or to happen? So far that’s his pattern with the Clintons.
Another bad media (gee, oxymorons so early) story without credit ????? Who knew!
You would think the way the MSM is ignoring this issue that it was a rumor circulating in the National Enquirer.
I am really bummed out today. It feels like the Orwellian vision of control of the masses has been realized. I keep thinking now we will soon be seeing posters and messages across the country that simply say, “Turn toward Obama and smile.”
It might as well be in Chicago. I can’t go anywhere without his dopey mug in my face.
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Schlussel Story on Obama’s Non-Draft and Faked-Registration is Net’s Most-Blogged About
By Debbie Schlussel
Check Out the Yahoo News page on President-Elect Obama and the Transition. At the time I write this, my story, this morning, exposing Barack Obama’s lies and faked Selective Service Registration is tied for the most blogged about story on the net, with 9 major blogs so far writing about it.
Thanks for reading this site and getting the news out.
What? Another suspicious document? I’m shocked (not)! Or is this just another tin-foil hat story? Helllllp!
These were my remarks (not part of the story).
Debbie’s original story, which includes photos of said documents…
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/11/exclusive_did_n.html
Bill Ayers on Good Morning America? Wow this topic has spread like wildfire. Nothing like saying you can blow up shit in the U.S and its A OK like putting people like this on TV to tell the world how unfair it is that you are getting a bad rap just because you plotted to blow up some shit on a military installation and a federal building or two. But I guess it’s alright since he didn’t go to jail.
I wonder if he will say he was sorry on Good Morning America for doing it? Nah. Probably say he wish he could of done more like before. Interesting if we get to see the photo of him stepping on the flag. As we all tune in to listen to how it’s unfair he is getting such bad press. I wont miss this shit for the world tomorrow.
What is the point in fighting “the war on terrorism” if we are now going to make excuses for people actions like this? To know people have become so desperate for “change” that now people like this can have free reign?
You have got to be kidding me. I am curious. If this man was a associate of anyone else other than Obama. Would everyone be willing to open there arms and welcome them into there homes?
Good god who is next? Bin Laden? Are we going to make excuses for everyone who comes with a sad sob story and excuse there actions? Do people honestly understand how many ways it is beyond wrong what is playing out?
We have people, Obama’s relative who was suppose to be deported, but is still here illegally. On public assistance. Public. Government. Assistance. Even donated to his campaign and made it on no ones radar. NO ONES RADAR
And people are making excuses and saying it’s a non issue.
So if its that easy. How in gods name can anyone not realize the fucking enemy ie terrorists could get in or be here just that easily?
I am watching my country go to shit before my eyes.
It’s shameful. It’s the “liberal media” proving just how powerful they are. They elected completely unqualified presidents 3 times [bush twice obama once] now they will make unrepentant terrorist ayers in to a hero. Shameful.
They are to be on Democracy Now! tomorrow as well.
I am shaking my head in disbelief.
How convenient for the dirtbag. And on the slim chance he is declared ineligible to be POTUS we won’t have to get him impeached from the Senate now!
Also in the news:
Hear that you bloody trolls you are all going to farking hell!
Galt,
What I can’t believe in my Catholic Church are all those ex Bush supporters who could never get over the Clinton sex crimes but are more than eager to elect someone that voted for Infanticide. These people hate Bush and America so much that they wish for our defeat and genocide on the Iraqi people.
I really don’t feel like talking to them anymore.
I hear ya on that. People are eager to put blinders on for one cause even if it means ignoring suffering elsewhere.
Even though I didn’t vote for any Bush I will give him credit for no terrorist attack since 911.
This achilles heal for the democrats. They have not seen the intellegence data like Bush and are quick to shut down the whole anti-terrorism network.
If we get attacked again it’s on the democrats and they will be blamed as they should.
The fear that these wimps will have like Keith Overjerk as they remember with fondness the days when America was safe under the evil Bush.
I looked this up and it is very interesting:
What is fascinating is that the origins of the natural-born citizen clause can be traced to a July 25, 1787 letter from John Jay to George Washington, presiding officer of the Constitutional Convention. John Jay wrote: “Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.” There was no debate before members of the Constitutional Convention of 1787 and the natural-born citizen qualification for the office of the Presidency was introduced by the drafting Committee of Eleven, and then adopted.
So the founding fathers agreed UNANIMOUSLY that the President should be natural born citizen. Obama and the DNC and others want to circumvent the founding fathers. Supreme Court, you know what to do, uphold the U. S. Constititution. This is as big a crisis as the creation of judicial review in 1803 by Marbury v. Madison.
AGREED!
…but how many in the MSM have ever heard of M v M?
CRICKET-CRICKET-CRICKET
to them if it doesn’t talk about Palins wardrobe, it is not news
F*** the MSM - remember the American Revolution and the tyranny of King George I
We need to take our country back from Democrats, Republicans and this Manchurian Candidate BHO.
This is about our country following the guidelines that have kept us secure.
Dr Kate’s statement:
and your statement:
What can be debated is the meaning of the “Natural Born Citizen Clause” and the “Naturalization Clause”. Black’s Law Dictionary defines the Natural Born Citizen Clause as the clause of the U.S. Constitution barring persons not born in the United States from the presidency. U.S. Const. art II subsection 1, cl 5. (emphasis mine).
The Naturalization Clause is defined as: The constitutional provision stating that every person born or naturalized in the United States is a citizen of the United States and of the State of Residence. U.S. Const. amend. XIV, subsection 1. See jus soli (emphasis mine)
Jus soli (right of the soil) is the rule that a child’s citizenship is determined by place of birth. This is the U.S. rule, as affirmed by the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. Cf Jus Sanguinis
Jus Sanguinis (right of blood) The rule that a child’s citizenship is determined by the parents’ citizenship. Most nations follow this rule.
Ideas anyone?
Well Kate, you sure proved you haven’t been keeping track of the case.
Boy, it’s a sad night for reading comprehension on noquarter. First RobWarrior pens 1,500 words based on a complete misunderstanding of what the Eisenstadt hoax was. Now “Dr.” Kate announces that the Supreme Court has “granted the writ of certiorari.”
This is pretty feeble performance, people. Maybe you ought to proofread each other before you post. A second pair of eyes on a piece could avoid these kinds of embarassments.
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David Serchuk, writing at Forbes.com:
Souter and the SCOTUS do have the case. The request for an injunction was denied (moot now anyway) but the writ is pending a reply from the respondent on December 1:
Galt, you and “Dr.” Kate shouldn’t blog about stuff you don’t understand. No writ of certiorari has been granted — as the docket shows.
Bob,
Thanks for being a watchdog here. Sometimes I wonder if my time is better spent somewhere else.
It is still a free nation until we hear otherwise. We don’t expect you to chant in unison. If that is what you are looking for — thinking in lock step — this may not be the place for you.
Plus the watchdog is wrong, I never said the writ was granted. Someone needs to watch the watchdog.
I did no say a writ was granted.
And I quoted the doc from the SCOTUS:
The writ was filed and is still in process, “Response due December 1, 2008″ so the case is still pending.
I don’t mind being criticized for being wrong but in this case I am not.
I am a Roman Catholic. If you are not Roman Catholic and do not agree with Rev. Newman’s statement, please stay out of this. It does not affect you or your personal beliefs. I chose to be a Roman Catholic because I believe in their doctrines. If you don’t believe in those doctrines, then just keep your criticisms of Church teachings to yourself. I’m not going to change my religious beliefs, and I’m not going to try to change yours.
Galt, this is not directed at you (your’re one of the best at NQ). This is a pre-emptive statement for non-Catholic Catholic bashers—who claim to be so tolerant. Yeah, right…
Sorry about that, the story ticked my funny bone.
tickled that is
Galt, your comment to the trolls tickled my funny bone,too. I said what I said because I could just hear the Catholic bashers criticizing Church teaching. You’ve read it here before, so I needn’t repeated it. I just wanted to say my piece.
And that’s all I have to say about that. ;-D
I needn’t repeat
edit.Bringing out Ayers on these type of shows is going to have consequences. They may not be obvious now but they will be later. I don’t care what reasons people may give. Some things are just wrong no matter how much people try to sugar coat it. I no longer know what the hell is going on because everything I believed to be true, exist no longer. By all means people give Obama a chance. We don’t have any choice but to. Instead of thinking of this country, all they did was think of themselves and the free check they want in the mail.
It is a bad situation to be in. The military volunteers and part of our oath is to “uphold the constitution”. But what happens when everyone begins to treat said constitution like toilet paper? It’s equivalent to guidelines. A outline. But everything I see is in the direct opposite. If we begin to turn away from that, what the hell are we doing? If we are disregarding our own rules and making allowances from illegal aliens down to the guidelines of eligibility to become president, how the hell does one govern a country where we bend the rules or ignore them just to accomadate one person?
How can we have policies on national security if we are willing to overlook our nations security because one party deemed it necessary to not vet at all one candidate? Because they were worried about riots from my community if something was “taken away” from Obama? No, not taken away, but following the rules, regulations and guidelines that were there from the start that everyone else before him had to follow. Because they understood that they were there for a reason. Some people may not care about that little piece of paper but there are those who are guided by it.
No one can tell me that there is any man or woman more important than the country itself that we would risk everything to have them in a position. People that love this country and place it first would never put it, or the people in jeopardy.
We should not be speculating on who Senator Obama is. We should not be questioning where he went in what year and with who. We should not be asking about Birth Certificates and COLBS. We should not be wondering where money came from and from whom. We should not have the same questions we have from day one still unanswered. Because if we do, that means somewhere out there someone believes the man is more important than the job he was just elected to. Every individual before him had to provide these things but this year, in the 2008 election. We have to put our faith, our trust and our country in the hands of someone we have never been able to get one single answer to one single question, for almost 2 years.
I just dont have that confidence, and I can say sadly for the first time in my life, I am not proud of the individuals in this country. I am unable to take that leap of faith for something so important on someone who I don’t even know. And now it is too late and people have no idea what to expect but we are forced to accept this situation. I hope for all of our sakes that people have enough faith in Obama for all of us.
“… give Obama a chance.” Why? Has he earned it? That is the question here. If he does not qualify, if he flouted foreign contribution laws, if his campaign took in 100s of million$ using illegal tactics like disabling credit card ID checking, etc., etc., WHY should he be given a chance?
That kind of fait accompli thinking and acquiescence is exactly what con men, bullies, and tyrants count on.
F that.
That is what I learned this past year, we have no control of our government. I see Rep. Emanuel on tv and I know it is him and others like him who run this country, not “we the people”. They give us primaries and caucuses and campaigns but they have the outcome rigged and most of the time we never know about it, and they keep on pretending to represent us. But when what they want is so different from what we want and we start to prevail, they break cover and beat the shit out of us.
An early example is in 2006 when Emanuel replaced a lady names Marie Cagelus (who had worked and earned the trust of the people of her district) with someone named Tammy Duckworth. I thought that outrageous act was an isolated event, now I know better.
So this is a government “of the people, by the people, and for the people” as long as “the people” go along with what “the few” want.
Betty,
The lady that Emanuel replaced was Christine Cegelis. In an earlier election (2002) she nearly defeated the Repbulican incumbent in that Illinois district. (I can’t remember off-hand who it was.) And she did that (over 40% of the votes) WITHOUT the help of the Dem Party of Illinois. The next time (2004) emanuel wanted a hawk - Duckworth. and she did not win either. But all the support went to her despite the demos of that district wanted Cegelis.
You are so on target re:Emanuel. So there we have the apple and the tree. I think it is Emanuel who is the tree and obama is the apple.
Sickening.
I had thought that at least the people of Massachusetts would get rid of Barney Frank and maybe John Kerry, but here we are again. Until we hold our individual members of congress accountable and vote them out of office when they fail us, nothing will change. I see that the people who returned Frank to office failed the rest of us as well. Some moments in my days, when I think of what was done to us in this election, I just want to go find a quiet cave somewhere or perhaps a lonely mountain top.
I have lost all faith in the people of Masschusetts. Don’t count on them to put our country first, they sold out already.
Here’s a sobering article … read the comments, too:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/11/something-of-hi.html#comments
I’m beginning to think this is not just unfounded paranoia. Obama should have been stopped when there was a chance … if there really ever was a chance.
Will the Secretary of State be texted at 3 AM as well?
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/14/will-the-secretary-of-state-be-texted-at-3-am-as-well/
There is another case in front of the SCOTUS, a motion to stay the election was docketed improperly by the stay clerk and Justice Souter denied the day after the election. The case is being sent to Justice Clarence Thomas. This case is different from Bergs, but could have the same result: SCOTUS requiring that candidates prove eligibility. You won’t believe how this case has been mishandled by the courts. It is like some people are trying to sabotage it. Of course, this guy also claims that McCain is ineligible, but since he lost the election that won’t be of consequence at this point.
Read all of this guys stuff. You’ll be amazed:
http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/
There is no case on the docket at SCOTUS that I can find. I checked that blog last night and the claim is the clerk for Justice Thomas is holding up the case on a technicality. I am not stating the blog is making anything up. All I know is there is no case pending that I can document. I’m sure chris and bob will be thrilled at my journalistic integrity on this.
I found it yesterday. I searched for donofrio.
Here is the link for the updated docket:
http://search.access.gpo.gov/supreme-court/SearchRight.asp?ct=Supreme-Court-Dockets&q1=donofrio&x=34&y=24
http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a407.htm
It’s real.
Hey thanks. I made the mistake of using Obama only as a search term. That SCOTUS case been dismissed.
Souter denied…based on the incorrect docketing by the clerk.
He is submitting to Thomas tomorrow. It should be redocketed, I think, at that time.
You need to read all of his stuff instead of just making assumptions. Just because Souter denied does not mean the case is dead in the water. This only allows him to bring it to the attention of another Justice for a second opinion, and Thomas has the authority by that virtue of then submitting copies (provided by Donofrio) to the rest of the court.
Yes I should have read, but I don’t put much faith in these challenges. I hope I am wrong and respect anyone for trying.
Yeah, it’s like all along every authority has looked for any “out” to avoid challenging The One Machine. I suspect massive infiltration, intimidation, and incompetence.
He did not claim that Justice Thomas is holding it up. The CLERK is impeding the process and Donofrio states he will be resubmitting the case for review to Justice Thomas tomorrow.
Apparently this is allowed on a request for emergency stay when the first request is denied.
That’s what I said, the clerk is holding up the case:
oh, yea… sorry!
Resubmit, baby, resubmit!
There are still lots o’ cases out there…
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80928
Donofiro v Wells is the New Jersey case.
I wish Attorney Donofrio the best of luck.
The Obama mites put that out. Obama never offered her anything. They do this when Obama wants to rub something in her face.
If that’s true what an even MORE pathetic asshole he is. Not like he had to do any more to be pathetic.
Also, people need to look at the Constitution of Kenya, here is the link.
http://kenya.rcbowen.com/constitution/chap6.html#90
90. Persons born outside Kenya after December 11th, 1963;
A person born outside Kenya after 1 lth December. 1963 shall become a citizen of Kenya at the date of his birth if at that date his father is a citizen of Kenya.
Remember what FactCheck.org stated on the Obama Campaign, Fight the Smears Website:
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4, 1982.”
Obama campaign is lying. the applicable provision of the Kenyan Constitution to Obama’s birth on August 4, 1961 is as follows:
Persons entitled to be registered as citizens by virtue of conexion with Kenya before December, 1963
http://kenya.rcbowen.com/constitution/chap6.html#88
OT: Apparently they could use some new tinfoil hats over at API:
That blog is such a joke. They keep stalling the release of the phantom tape. The latest deadline is today for its “release.” LMAO.
This really does read like one of those scam emails promising $15 million if you only wire them $5000 “good faith” money.
Good link, Galt. They say you should read or hear something funny before going to sleep. This fits the ticket.
Be VERY cautious looking at that site. People have reported infections by very serious viruses and Trojans after logging in, or even just looking. In one case, the computer had to be trashed.
No problems here, but my computers are up to date on protection. That’s a wordpress blog hosted by wordpress.com. If there is a problem people should report it to wordpress.com.
Is it possible someone started a rumor about the blog spreading stuff? Not accusing you personally of anything, but the information could be incorrect.
Anyone with two healthy eyes and a set of ears knows that the “fix” is in, in regards to Obamalama Ding Dong…When it can absolutely and no longer be avoided, he will produce the best forged birth certificate that money can buy…It will be printed on the correct type of paper…It will have the necessary raised seal, all the correct signatures and necessary info…It will be artificially aged and lying in wait at the proper archives in Hawaii.
Do I seem paranoid?…Nah, I don’t think so…The machine that groomed and produced the phony, Obamaggot, have come much too far and invested way too much to let a little thing like a birth certificate stand in their way…We have been had!!!
Troy, first of all, congrats on “Obamalama Ding Dong.” Priceless, especially to us old doo-woppers. Also, I really concur with your “best forged certificate that money can buy” conjecture. With all the bucks he’s raked in, how could it be otherwise?
Excellent post Dr. Kate. The Four questions do need researching and answering. I’m pulling out my copy of The Federalist Papers and The Anti-Federalist Papers ,dusting them off and try to figure out what the writers meant.
Antonin Scalia stated that the U.S. Constitution is a not a living document, but a dead one.
This will be a very interesting case to follow.
It’s living, just not in the fast, trendy lane. Thank God!
The only reason that the Secretary of State post is being bandied about is because the Obama camp knows that the rift hasn’t been healed. They know that they got lucky this time around when Obama is not running on anything. In 2012, when he has to run on how well he has governed the swing of Clinton democrats will determine the election. They know that the Clinton democrats will be more of a factor next time around.
I still say that the best position for her would be in the Senate where she can just wait until the Obama administration implodes. She will be tainted by the failure that will be the Obama administration if she joins them.
Plus the fact that as Secy of State, he can blame her for his failures - he can fire her and she’s gone. The Senate seat is elected. She is pretty popular in NY, with good reason.
Thought-provoking, Dr. Kate, thank you!
I can see it now, The Obama Act of 2010
Presidential candidates shall be required to fill out a McDonald’s job application
LSHIAB (Laughing So Hard I Almost Baracked)
I agree with you that our government needs to be downsized, but our government is under the control of two political parties who determine our elections and therefore, control that government without any Constitutional authority to choose candidates for election.
Looking back at the primaries where the Democrats and the Republicans overturned the decision of state legislatures, who are given responsibility over elections, directly led to the disenfranchisement of the voters of two states and that allowed the selection of mystery man Barack Obama for president.
And while we struggle with court cases to force our government to do their job we are told by our judicial system that we have “no standing” even though our Constitution is filled with references to The People, not the political parties who totally control the candidate selection process. And there is not one mention of political parties having any Constitutional standing to supersede the states’ authority over elections.
And I’m sure if an investigation into culpability was done, we would discover that it is the public servants of the nation who have failed to do their duty.
With several court cases filed, but never reported on in “media”, there is enough evidence of deception and fraud that if it was a police investigation into any other crime, the suspect would be brought in for questioning at the very least. We know of at least four lawsuits filed to adjudicate legal eligibility and at least two were filed against a Secretary of State in charge of certifying candidates and elections.
I know of two that have reached the Supreme Court, Berg v Obama and lawyer Leo C. Donofrio who sued the New Jersey Secretary of State for failure to do her job because she admitted she not only did nothing to determine whether McCain and Obama were eligible but did not removed the name of a Nicaraguan born Roger Calero from the ballot. Yet no court granted Lawyer Donofrio’s request for a stay until eligibility of all candidates had been proven.
These are serious charges made against the guardians of our elections, and against the enforcers of our Constitution. This election will not be finished until December 15 when the electoral college; made up of the same politicians who turned a blind eye to this charade; meet and cast their vote so it is not too late for the guardians of Justice to stop it. And if they don’t, the power of the People to seek redress has been taken away. And We the People can’t clean up the mess unless we have the tools to do it.
I wish the MSM would at least give this issue proper coverage. It should have been done long before now, but now that Justice Souter has granted cert, then the media has no excuse not to talk about it. The fact that Bobo is legally fighting the matter should convince any reasonable person that he’s hiding something!! However, now that he’s been elected, every news outlet, including Fox, is probably going to start running scared.
This Berg case was dismissed Oct 24, 2008. See http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2008/10/federal-judge-dismisses-obama.php. Next idea.
Your Berg link is to the local court case, not the Supreme Court case, so you may want to update it because the current link goes to the dismissed case.
I do not know whether Obama is a natural born citizen or not. May be he is and qualified to be POTUS. But if he arrogantly declines to answer SCOTUS and SCOTUS tosses aside the case on technicalities, we can conclude then that US is no longer a country governed by laws but by thugs. Already SCOTUS once did this in 2000. I thought it was an aberration. If they repeat the same this time favoring a democrat, they may prove their neutrality but not their fidelity to justice.
I heard that Obmaa is resigning his US Senate seat this weekend. Guess he must be confident that the Berg’s case will go nowhere.
Does this mean that if Obama is wrong he’ll be out of work?
Call me naive but why can’t the INS, Justice Dept, FBI or Secret Service investigate Obama’s qualification as natural born citizen. They should be examining documentation for all candidates for authenticity and compare it against certified copies gotten straight from the source. This whole situation is utterly ridiculous.
Dr Kate,
Thanks you so much for explaining exactly what is involved in the Berg case before SCOTUS. This is a remarkable post.
thank you for a wonderfully written piece. the truth must out. and we must make our voices heard. but i think the questions raised must be taken further — the real issue is not whether the president-elect was born in this country, but on this planet. why has the obama camp refused to release a detailed medical report? because he has several hearts, obviously. or none. (that part is unclear). but the point is, his presidency would clearly be not just unconstituional, but inhuman, as well. (have you ever seen barack’s stomach distended after a meal? no, because he most likely doesn’t have one. not one like ours, anyway. have you ever seen him perspire? no. because beings from his planet don’t have a hypothalamus, the area of the brain where thermosensitive neurons that control perspiration are located.) i know there is scant evidence of obama’s alien nature — but that is the nature of conspiracy, isn’t it? to cover up the truth so it can’t be seen. but we will not relent. dr. kate is an example to all of us. we must get to the truth.
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Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads: “No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”
There are numerous questions as to Obama’s citizen status raising suspicion and doubt about Obama constitutional qualification to be president. To settle these questions Mr. Obama must produce proof of citizenship!
Documents that must be produced include;
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(b) certified copies of all reissued and sealed birth certificates in the names Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham and Barry Dunham;
(c) a certified copy Certification of Citizenship;
(d) a certified copy Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of maturity;
(e) certified copies of admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School; and
(f) certified copies of any court orders or legal documents changing his name from Barry Soetoro.
It is reasonable that these documents should be produced considering that his father is Kenyan, his adoptive father is Indonesian, and his grandmother claims to have been present at his birth in Kenya. If he is a natural born citizen then producing these documents should not be any problem.
These allegations will not go away until Mr. Obama produces proof to federal authorities and the public. If he will not do so voluntarily he must be compelled by every means available. You, as an employee of The People, have sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution.
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http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis
From 1979 to 1984, I was an In-Country Asset assigned to the US Embassy in Pakistan. Nobody named Barry Soetoro, Barack Hussein Obama or any of the other aliases listed in the Berg case, entered Pakistan on a US Blue Citizen Passport or Brown Government Official passport in 1981. American entries were reported to the Embassy by immigrations and the Pakistani Security Services monitored there whereabouts while in Pakistan.
I was visiting friends last spring when we heard about Senator Obama’s foreign policy experience gathered from a trip to Pakistan in 1981. My comment to those gathered was, Bull Shit.
Something simple of interest here for us all to ponder…..
The state in which I live,MO.- REQUIRES a post 2001 raised State seal long form birth certificate in order to obtain a MO.drivers license or MO.state I.D., along with your SS card, or SSA print out of your SS#.
In order to gain entrance into the SS office, you must provide a valid State picture I.D. or drivers license, and thats just the first step. IF after an applicant has gotten thru security successfully, a applicant when filling out the form to obtain a replacement SS card or printout of your SS#,must also have a valid raised state seal long form birth certifcate. Short form bc’s are not acceptable.
So…as simple as it seems, a citizen cannot apply for or obtain a State ID,or a State drivers license or a Federal SS# without having a post 2001 raised state seal long form birth certificate.
Why is it acceptable to SO MANY that a candidate for the highest office of our nation-POTUS not be required to provide a certified long form birth certificate ???
How can anyone claim this is a matter of racism when ALL citizens no matter their race, must provide this basic documentation ?????!!!!!
Who is this candidate who flagrantly thwarts the United States Constitution?????