“Liberal” Media to Hillary: Stay where you are.
By RobWarrior on November 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM in Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, New York Times, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Washington Post
For some reason, “Apocalypse Now” popped into my head (it could be the pain killers, I’m still getting over a root canal.)
Kurtz: I expected someone like you. What did you expect? Are you an assassin?
Willard: I’m a soldier.
Kurtz: You’re neither. You’re an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.
Today’s errands boys are Thomas Friedman of the NY Times and the Washington Post’s David Broder. Both have turned out columns filled with praise for Senator Hillary Clinton. Both are sure she is more than up to the job of Secretary of State and both hope she stays in the Senate. It seems the Great Obama must not be sidetracked by the distractions of the Clintons! What they fail to mention is that most of the so-called distractions of the Clintons are created by the media in the first place. So in other words, the most qualified candidate for Secretary of State should not take the job because we (the MSM) will simply make it impossible for her to function since we will be spending inordinate amounts of time looking into every moment of private citizen and former President Clinton’s life, interpreting every utterance from him again and again and investigating every dime he makes. We will also dissect every facial expression from Hillary to figure out what she really must be thinking at every moment.
You can read Friedman here and Broder here.
Meanwhile, the man who will be President remains unvetted.
Friedman is concerned with the relationship between Senator Clinton and the President-elect. He argues that for the Secretary of State to be effective, the world must know she is speaking for the President.
Frankly, Obama could appoint his dear mother-in-law as secretary of state, and if he let the world know she was his envoy, she would be more effective than any ex-ambassador who had no relationship with the president.
Our current president never cared about this, so neither of his secretaries of state were particularly effective. Rather than having Colin Powell’s back, President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld delighted in stabbing Powell in the back, particularly when he was on the road. But being close to the president is not enough. Condoleezza Rice had a close relationship with Bush, but Bush had no coherent worldview to animate her diplomacy, so all her travels added up to less than the sum of their miles. The two most impactful secretaries of state in the last 50 years were Baker and Henry Kissinger. Both were empowered by their presidents, and both could candidly talk back to their presidents.
Foreign leaders can spot daylight between a president and a secretary of state from 1,000 miles away. They know when they’re talking to the secretary of state alone and when they are talking through the secretary of state to the president.
It is a valid point. However, Senator Clinton’s performance on Obama’s behalf during this campaign more than proves she can be a team player. As a woman she has been forced to understand time and again how to succeed and forge ahead while playing a “subservient” role. As for their personal relationship, the MSM has been telling us about President-elect Obama’s great judgement for months. Shouldn’t they trust him on this one?
As for Broder, well he just wants Obama to think for himself.
What Obama needs in the person running the State Department is a diplomat who will carry out his foreign policy. He does not need someone who will tell him how to approach the world or be his mentor in international relations. One of the principal reasons he was elected was that, relying on his instincts, he came to the correct conclusion that war with Iraq was not in America’s interest. He was more right about that than most of us in Washington, including Hillary Clinton.
Uh, David, what if he doesn’t have a foreign policy? This could be a President-elect reaching out because he needs help shaping that policy. If you haven’t noticed, most of President-elect Obama’s foreign policy talks have been at Rashid Khalidi’s dinner table. Yes, there were some vanity trips abroad during the campaign, but the experience and knowledge is not there. I am surprised Broder is not praising that “superior judgement” for the President-elect actually recognizing this.
And of course, Broder reminds us she is married to Bill.
Even if Hillary Clinton were ready to play such a subordinate role, which she might be, in return for a promise that her voice would be heard in the most serious policy debates, the presence of Bill Clinton makes that a doubly difficult assignment. The former president has, through the Clinton Global Initiative and his own extensive foreign travels and worldwide contacts, made himself a force in international affairs. It would be unfair, and unlikely, for him to shut down his own private foreign policy actions because they might conflict with his wife’s responsibilities. But foreign leaders would inevitably see Bill Clinton as an alternative route toward influencing American policy. And he would be unlikely to remain silent.
Are you trying to say that Mrs. Clinton would not be able to act independently of her husband? You admit Bill is doing good work abroad, so he shouldn’t stop and she shouldn’t be Secretary of State because of that? If the President-elect wants her and she wants the job, this can be worked out. And my guess is that former President Clinton would do whatever it takes to see to it that she has what she wants.
There are reports out today, that Senator Clinton has reservations about the job. She may decide she is better off staying in the Senate. If nothing else, remaining in the Senate will make it easier for her to raise funds to retire the debt she incurred during the campaign. As Secretary of State those activities are severely restricted. As a Senator she is free to speak out on any matter whenever she feels it is necessary. As a cabinet member, you must carry the company line.
But it’s her decision to make. As for Friedman and Broder, another line from Apocalypse now comes to mind.
Civilian: “Terminate with extreme prejudice”
Terminate their columns, that is.
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By Sarah Palin (Release date: November 17. 2009)
Kurtz: I expected someone like you. What did you expect? Are you an assassin?
Willard: I’m a soldier.
Kurtz: You’re neither. You’re an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.
———-
It’s a dirty job, but someones gotta do it.
(I always think of that song by Faith No More, for some reason, when I see that line).
Hillary is Obama’s best decision so far.
I’m hoping she takes the challenge.
During the campaign, Obama claimed he’d “change Washington” and bashed the Clintons as Washington insiders WHILE filling his campaign and advisory staffs with former Clinton admin officials.
He sold his soul to Washington insiders and is now tapping them to be in his admin - like Tom Daschle whose wife is a lobbyist.
LOL
I love seeing Kossacks heads explode!
I’m ambivalent about Hillary as SoS, but Obama tapping Washington insiders to “change Washington” proves once again that he deceived his followers.
I think the word he used was “bamboozled”. Some change. The one reason why I never drank the kool-aid was when I saw him campaigning in Denver and he said he was ALL ABOUT change and transparency. I’m always weary of people promising change. The only change I believe in are the coins in my pocket.
I love me some Hillary, and frankly, I think she can take on any job that requires toughness and intelligence. She can do it, no prob. Barky, not so much. He would gray overnight if another 9/11 were to happen again.
OBOTS know he is deceitful and they do not care. As long as they have a AA president, AA’s can stop whining they think..imbeciles sold us down the river for a deceitful Arab American pig.
Germany faced foreclosures in the 1930s, they
hired Hitler to stop the failing market, and the remainder is history.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNmcf4Y3lGM
Yes, when all is said and done, the one thing left remaining of Obama’s soaring rhetoric of “change” is - we got a Black president.
That’s all.
I don’t think so. I think pound for pound Richardson would make a much better SoS and could probably get much more done than Hillary. I think is a bad selection. I don’t think she will be able to give him what he wants in a SoS. He already betrayed her too many times and she will need to always put the wrong face in order to get the right decision from him. Richardson on the other hand is a Judas and that plus his lifetime accomplishments as a statesman with worldwide respect and notoriety would make him much more able to get things done.
You think this because your head is up your a**, as usual.
I hope for her own sake she politely declines. She’s better than this.
I keep going back and forth on this one. The Secretary of State can make history and make a real difference in the world.
Yes, working for a man who defeated you in the primaries often by fradulent means (see caucus stacking and fundraising for starters) and who had surrogates cast your husband as a raving racist must seem insane.
On the other hand, if you really want to make a difference in the world at a critical time, then you can do far more as Secretary of State then you can as a junior Senator.
If she never gets the chance to President, Secy of State is her best shot at making history.
NW,
My sentiments, too. I’ve tried to be indifferent, but there’s so much. The way her Party and her Senate colleagues dissed her, I can imagine how tempting it is to ditch them. Will she be an effective Senator with these people sniping at her heels.?
Screw the msm. Like who cares what they think.
If she’s a distraction to 0bama they only have themselves to blame. They are Clinton addicts and should go into rehab.
Yes, but you’re invested in seeing Obama fail.
He fails, my portfolio fails.
I’m just not into being a martyr. *haha
I want to thrive!
Ann…where on EARTH do you get your nonsense? “Invested in seeing Obama fail?” ROFLMAO. He’s going to fail, that’s a given. As for what I am invested in? I am invested in trying to keep him out of the WH and/or if he gets there having it be very short lived. I happen to love my country and all I am invested in is seeing this fraud get the hell out of the job he doesn’t deserve, can’t do, didn’t win honestly, etc.
He’s not qualified to be POTUS. He admitted to dual citizenship and that is against the constitution and rules to become POTUS..He is toast. He’s a national security threat.
when or where did he admit to dual citizenship?
It looks like the supreme court is going to go into conference on the 5th to hear the case about Obama’s BC.
Plains radio network will have more information tonight with the lawyer as guest.
Obama ADMITS on his own website to being a citizen of KENYA. However, he claims that the Kenyan citizenship expired in I believe 1982. He probably shouldn’t have posted that.
are you sure it was washed away by now
He has a habit of wiping his website once things like that look bad.
Annin I am investing in his failure. How could it be any other way? That is the nature of the beast. In order for him to succeed he would have to be born again and Billy Graham said he is retired. How can a person who is experienced in having others do all the thinking for him think something that will bring success to others? Not possible.
I tell you what he is good at already. It is at, “You are not going to get any more out of me.” There. That’s what will make him a real success at hiding his feelings and his motives.
I totally agree with you. I think she should stay in the Senate for now. Perhaps she can get more done without her freedom of speaking her great ideas being diced by NoBama.
absolutely, I hope She will say “NO”.
I’ve had it with this media manipulation by the Plasticine-(s)elect. This is not the class president of some high school worrying about who is “popular” and manipulating the school newspaper, but that is how this (p)Residency is sure starting out.
Thank you for the article.
I can’t see into the future, but I know what happened in the immediate past. I don’t think I will ever be able to look at Obama as any more legitimate of a President than I do G.W.B., as not all the votes given to him in the Democratic primary were actually cast for him.
I think Hillary would be wise to ignore the president-select’s inclination to choose her. It is not her charge to lend legitimacy to the next Presidency. Although, she is the only one who ever could.
How can a person who had so little regard for her and even flipped his finger to her when she got the upper hand once be able to perform any clever feat when in the background he will be undermining her efforts and ultimately putting her in ridicule in front of the whole world.
As a New Yorker I would not want to see Hillary leave the Senate for Secretary Of State.
Hillary is the real leader of the Senate as Ted is forced by Cancer to Stop aside.
N.Y. Gov. Paterson is doing a good job with a tough situation right now in Albany and has the support of the people of the State.
If Hillary steps down as Senator David Paterson would get to appoint our new Senator.
David has always wanted to be Senator and he could appoint himself.
That would leave the Senate Seat, the Governor’s office and the Lut. Governor’s office open at the same time.
Not a good thing for New York at this critical time.
I want Hillary to stay and lead the Senate.
As a New Yorker, I feel the same way. I hope the SOS offer isn’t a trap to neutralize her power. It does give her the national/world visibility to help her remain a major player now and in the future. I’d still rather see her in the Senate. She not only bridges the gap between “upstate” and “the city,” she also works across the aisle in the Senate. I hope she ends up where she can do the most good and wish her the best.
Paterson said yesterday that he doesn’t want to leave his position as Gov. and go to the Senate. He did mention several names as possible appointees, one being Andrew Cuomo. I didn’t know the other two, but one was from LI.
Clinton is my Senator too, and I’ve asked her not to leave that position. She cannot trust BO and he’s still out to cripple her in anyway possible.
The Senate is lockstep, and she’s so far away from “leading.”
She’ll be dead by the time she arrives.
This is by far the best way to involve her in leading the country.
Yes, she’ll give him the information. No, they won’t always agree.
Yes, he wins. He’s the president.
Yes, this is by FAR the best news of this election season.
I think Patterson is settling in nicely as Governor. He did have designs on the Senate Seat as the Lt. Governor. The guess was if Hillary became President, Governor Spitzer would appoint Patterson.
I believe the game has changed and Patterson would rather remain Governor of New York. I wouldn’t be surprised if he nominated his Attorney General Andew Cuomo to serve out the term and thus eliminate his main Democratic obstacle to running for a term of his own.
Of course if Senator Clinton remains a Senator, it all is moot
You nailed it.
So what, he’s the smartes, most popular guy in the world. Of course, she can act independently of him.
Thomas Friedman was a ardent supporter of the Iraq War and David Broder is a supporter of Karl Rove and dislikes the Clintons. Their bias has always come through in their opinion pieces. They are not journalists who bother to seek the truth; they are just writing op-eds that fill the printed pages. It is the “in” thing to do.
I agree with your characterization of Friedman and Broder. Let’s go back to when the Clintons were in the White House, MSM was so hostile to both of them and yet they survived all of those negativites and became stronger as individuals.. Up to the last minute MSM was writing about how the Clintons stole silverware and plates, chairs and tables from the White House.. How much can you take from all of these.. If there are individuals that needs to be vetted, those journalists writing the venom against the Clintons should be out there.
Enough already…I, would like her to continue in the Senate because she can affect more lives and she can fight for issues that senators in the likes of Obama never dared to work on anything while serving as bench warmer in the Senate…
These two are seriously deranged. Wasn’t Thomas Friedman one of those media cheerleaders who brought us the Iraq war? I read these articles too and your analysis is piercing and insightful. Thank you.
Thomas Friedman was responsible for the measure of time named in his honor as, “a Friedman”, usually referring to a six month time period. No matter how disasterous things were on the ground in Iraq, Friedman always argued for another “Friedman”, another six months. When that six months had passed, and the situation was worse than it had been at the end of the previous six months, he would come up with another excuse or basis for asking the American public to give Bush another Friedman.
Yes, but here’s the kicker.
We actually did turn the corner. Bush was right.
And….it is far, far better to exit a victor in this misguided war.
Surely we agree on this? No?
AnninCa:
Aside from the argument that we were wrong to go in to Iraq as we did in the first place, once we did, we had a duty to clean up after ourselves. It is generaly preferable to go out a winner, or at least, not being chased out with your tail between your legs. There is a reasonable argument to be made that Reagan’s hasty departure from Beirut sent a message to Osama and other like-minded Islamic militants that the U.S. could be bloodied and defeated by a little bit of Islamic shock and awe.
Why do my intelligent posts go to spam while you are allowed to run off at the mouth???
Where were you when we were fighting off Barky 24/7 in the last days? Stumping for Obama?
Sheesh!
Thanks.
Another thing these columns bring out is that this election was just not about the pundits and columnists falling in love with Obama, it also has to do with a lasting case of severe Clinton derangment syndrome.
It’s kind of like herpes. It last forever and you never know when its going to rear its ugly head.
I doubt seriously that Hillary not accepting will break 0bama’s administration.
And anyone invested in seeing 0bama fail does not care for America.
I cringe at the thought of him being a total disaster. I believe the signs pointed to this and people should have observed them. But they didn’t.
So now I hope the worst we do is simply coast for 4 years. And if we do better, good for him. He wasn’t my choice, but if does a decent job, I’ll give him props.
I have no problem being wrong. This is not about me.
But all the postitive-thinking in the world is not going to change my feelings of intrepidation with regard to 0bama.
Mimi:
Well said!! I’ll never trust him. I fear for the worst, but hope for the best, and wish him luck.
What could be the reason for the whole SOS FU bar?
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/why-the-hillary-as-sos-fu-bar/
Thanks for this link!
RobWarrior, I fear the pain of your recent root canal will last 4 years.
The whole meme of “pulling teeth” to get to the truth, will just get ObamaContin’ed.
Hope you feel better…
Will she or won’t she? Hopefully a decision is made before Friday one way or the other, either decline to accept the offer of US Secretary of State or simply accept it wholeheartedly no regrets…what’s the hold up?!
Broder and Friedman have been errand boys for the chimp and the GOP from the beginning to the end of that criminal failure of an administration.
They’re joining ranks with the other rats (Noonan, K. Parker, yourself [the Murdoch post] et al) currently squeaking piteously to be allowed on the new boat.
These are anonymous sources that are saying that BO has even offered her the position? Do you trust the media? This is all a distraction and this is what BO will do for the next 4 years, one distraction after another. And it also makes BO look like a benevolent Wizard who can make Hillary’s wishes come true–people are listening once again to this nonsense, still lapping it up and have learned nothing from the last 18 months with this con man. What overt sexism–it’s nauseating and now Bill Clinton holds the key, OMG.
Good question.
And one that does dampen my enthusiasm, now that I’m sure they are completely without journalistic standards these days.
Who knows?
They talked to the maids who cleaned up the conference rooms and call it a “top aide?”
This is the result of completely unbridled partisanship in the presses.
We simply cannot know if anything is real.
The good news?
Those stories will so be ignored, maybe they will give them up!
Not a formal announcement?
Don’t waste the ink.
Your skepticism in the media is well founded. However, in this case if she was not a serious contender, both sides would have shot down the story already.
It does neither side any good to have it floating out there for no reason. Although, they work for Obama now, both John Podesta and Rahm Emanuel are friends of Bill and Hill and more importantly shrewd operators. They would have killed this story on day one if it had no legs.
Nocturnal
Oh, there’s a reason alright–I’m not denying that. I’m saying it’s futile to go back and forth but people still do it, should she or shouldn’t she? And I would question Emmanuel’s or Podesta’s loyalties at this point. So many defectors from the Clinton camp during and after the primaries–they have loyalty to whoever is in power. These guys sold their souls a long time ago and would deny their own relatives(like BO) if they have to.
Hillary has to pay her debts off first
Nah*……silly talk
Don’t forget, hillary may have turned down the VP. As Sec. of St. she’s still open to run in 2012. Although, I think her and Barack get along better than some of you die hard Hillary supporters might want to admit.
It is hard to imagine Obama not being the nominee in 2012. In modern politics, we have not seen an incumbent President denied their party’s nomination. Perhaps Lyndon Johnson would have lost in 68, but he stepped down before we could find out.
Even Jimmy Carter got to run for a second term. For Obama to be denied, it would mean his administration would have to screw up ten times worse than Bush, which is something none of us should wish for.
If his administration were to screw up that badly and Hillary was in the cabinet, I am sure the media will find all sorts of way to blame her.
Your’re forgetting what could happen to him, even jail, if the DOJ ever starts functioning again. My prayers for ‘08 were not answered, maybe in ‘12.
Hey you, with the bogus Palin name, Obama is not a citizen of this country, that’s right, he’s a citizen of the country of Africa.
Attributing that statement to Palin is so like you O’bots. You really shouldn’t throw rocks, especially when you know the source was bogus.
Now, about those 57 sates,,,,
That sounds absolutely assinine You sure a an uneducated mess.
At an event in Cape Girardeau, MO on May 13, 2008, Obama claims people in Afghanistan speak Arabic.
If you are going to attack someone based on their putative lack of education, you might trouble yourself to use gramatically correct English.
Elsewise it looks like you are projecting some deep felt inner sense of inadequacy.
obama thought kentucky was leaning toward clinton instead of him since the people there knew her better since it was next to her state.
KY borders 7 states but not Arkansas. it does however border ILLINOIS. obama needs a map of his own state.
Palin never said that, it was a big old lie as were all the other sexist attacks against her to make her out to be just a dumb WOMAN.
The Man Barack Hussein Obama was vetted by the American people. Get used to Democracy. Not many people are buying the Sick Far Rights crap anymore. Maybe Larry can get a gig a FOX “News”.
He was vetted by the Kool-Aid drinkers, and by no one with a brain, or a moral center. You appear to be both.
Just because Obama got voted in does not mean he is eligible to be President.
Until the issue of his BC and questions regarding his parents registering Obama as Barry Soetoro and Indonesian I will have doubts —Why the name change, when was it changed back? Did his parents lie or was he adopted by his stepfather?
I guess the biggest question of all is why Obama Has Not and Will Not answer these questions.
I don’t get you people…you call yourselves democrats….then you vote for McCain…..then you bash Obama offering the Sec. of St. position, even bash Bill for no reason….then you blame the media for being bias…really..IS FOX A PART OF THE MEDIA?……..HMM I just love the way FOX drools over Obama, they sure love him.
Funny post. Everyone likes Obama. That’s why this “hate” blog won’t survive if we don’t get past resentments.
He’s going to be given a huge window of goodwill, which isn’t bad, given our real situation.
Nothing wrong with a fresh start.
I think I agree with Rush L.
Personal attacks on Obama failed. Let it go. Get over it.
Now, address the principles/programs/laws/etc.
If you can’t really complain about his choices, then maybe you need to admit: He’s not as bad as you thought he’d be.
I don’t know. I sure don’t have any firm opinion yet.
I DO definitely approve of his SoS choice, if it’s true.
I agree with on most subjects, but I have my + - on Hillary as SoS.Obama will be OK, and this hate must stop. He is not Prersident YET, give Him 100 days…to prove.
If anyone else was president I would love to see Hillary as SOS.
The problem is Obama cant be trusted.
Then add on all the people all ready under the bus during his campaign.
What do you think would happen to Hillary and any of the other people on Obama’s staff if the crap starts hitting the fan.
Obama does not take the blame for anything EVER; Obama just starts pointing fingers and blaming everything and everyone else.
I have a feeling that Hillary will be one of the first thrown under the bus if anything happens, even if she or the SOS department DONT have the remotest thing to do with whatever is going on.
If Hillary wants a future in Politics, she is better off staying off of any of Obama’s staff.
If lightening struck and Hillary ended up as SoS it would be the beginning of the end of the “liberal media” free ride for obama. The media’s derangement is so complete they would try to destroy barry because Hillary is SoS.
The obama camp is smart enough to know they are where they are because of the media. The obama camp is smart enough to know the “liberal media” hates Hillary.It would be absolute metaphysical hubris for obama to even offer the SoS to Hillary. obama has the hubris but I’m not sure axelrove would let barry pick Hillary. Still don’t believe there was a serious offer.
So if this story proves true, what will you think about Obama then?
I’d still think he is an empty suite. And wonder why his advisors let him make such a terrible mistake. obama is a media creation and I think the media would turn on a dime and start after obama. Of course I’m always wrong so…
Does anyone else find it strange that its Hillary up for SOS but its Bill that is having to reveal money sources. Arent these sources that Obama tried getting in the primary but couldnt?
What I also find strange is that there is so much about Obama that has not been vetted, yet he is going to take the top office.
What ever happened to Obama’s IL senate records?
What ever happened to Obama’s NY years in Columbia or his graduate school years.
What ever happened to answers about Obama’s parents saying his name was Barry Soreto and that he was Indonesian?
I have a feeling that there are many more questions like this that would be asked on a background ck for any almost any ferderal job yet we still dont know the answers to them with Obama.
You all kill me!….you really do…this site is full of people being WAY too sensitive to every word that comes out of Obamas mouth. Give me a break…the man bleed’s just like you and me …HE CAN NOT WALK ON WATER AND PACIFY EVERYONE AND BE PERFECT IN EVRYONE’S EYE’S. He is a MAN, not God or Jesus for that matter,..neither is he the anti-christ for god’s sake. You know what he is?….same thing Reagan AND Clinton were, a lucky SOB that came along when the country was thirsty for change from the previous party in control.
Oh wait …. that wasn’t the meme. Hopey. Changey. You are the dopes he was looking for to vote for him. Feeling used yet? I hope so. I hope when you get your pink slip, you think long and hard about your vote.
BLAME BUSH NOT OBAMA
And hey, they are plenty of places to go to bash Governor Palin. Go to one of them, dickweed.
dickweed?…a little sixth gradish….think?
If MSM runs true to form and if Obama turns out to be a dud, then MSM and especially MSNBC wont blame Bush and the they will not blame Obama but they will blame the woman who gave birth to Barack H. Obama.
Can’t Obama fire the Secretary of State or at least reduce the role to nothing? (Kissinger as National Security Advisor to Nixon was much more important than whoever the Sec. of State was) If Hillary takes the job, Obama could just shuffle her off to the side and her career would be over.
Yes, all cabinet positions serve “at the President’s pleasure.” She can take the job … the media can create a storm around her and make her ineffective … the President can then, “with great sadness” ask for her resignation (and get it, of course). And in a matter of weeks/months, her career is over.
I do think she is very unlikely to allow herself to be used in that way. If issues between herself and Obama become more public and policy oriented, the more likely scenario seems to be a protest resignation first followed by a platform on which to run in 2012.
Thomas Friedman and David Broder, two wandering neocons. They’ve drunk too much of the kool-aid.
Nothing made me madder during the campaign than male commentators on TV talking about what Hillary and Sarah could do when they lost. (I didn’t hear anyone say Palin could eventually run again for Wasilla mayor, but maybe I just missed that one!) Now these MSM chauvinists are coming up with every excuse in the book for Hillary not to accept SoS. (Do they believe Bobo will definitely name her?) They damn with faint praise, claiming she’ll be able to do more in the Senate or on the Court or as NY gov. (How ’bout mayor of Buffalo, boys?) By claiming that she’ll do something as preposterous as running a parallel administration, they’re of course calling her a scheming witch. Then, on the other hand, they fret that Bill will use her like some silly twit to work nefarious foreign deals. Just throw it all out there, guys, and hope something will stick!
Look, Bobo is not going to run his Presidency to please you, MSM. You threw yourselves at his feet, and he’s as likely at walk on your faces as not. He probably won’t even notice. (But I will. Hee hee.)
Nothing made me madder during the campaign than male commentators on TV talking about what Hillary and Sarah could do when they lost. (I didn’t hear anyone say Palin could eventually run again for Wasilla mayor, but maybe I just missed that one!) Now these MSM chauvinists are coming up with every excuse in the book for Hillary not to accept SoS. (Do they believe Bobo will definitely name her?) They damn with faint praise, claiming she’ll be able to do more in the Senate or on the Court or as NY gov. (How ’bout mayor of Buffalo, boys?) By claiming that she’ll do something as preposterous as running a parallel administration, they’re of course calling her a scheming witch. Then, on the other hand, they fret that Bill will use her like some silly twit to work nefarious foreign deals. Just throw it all out there, guys, and hope something will stick!
Look, Bobo is not going to run his Presidency to please you, MSM. You threw yourselves at his feet, and he’s as likely to walk on your faces as not. He probably won’t even notice. (But I will. Hee hee.)
It appears as the best years for the Clintons was before this campaign when she was Senator and he was raising money for Africa. They have been good and positive and productive times, financially good for them as well. The media was even reasonably kind to them and Chelsea. If you really care about Hillary Clinton, you would want her to continue as Senator, have a family life, and not be in the vicious spotlight. That’s what I want for her, she has earned it since she can’t be president at this time. Obama should find another secretary to make his coffe and bring in his mail and leave Hillary alone.
Don’t forget to say thank you Hillary!
I haven’t read all the comments so maybe someone else has also observed…how “they” Obama supporters and some in the MSM all want Hillary to stay in the Senate or go to the Supreme Court…I hear that one over and over again…
the Clinton opponents just want Hillary tucked away in the Supreme Court for life…it does not matter that Hillary has made absolutely clear that she is not interested…but anything for them to get her out of the public eye…
Go Hillary…she will make an exceptional SOS and I predict the Nobel Peace Prize for Hillary and continued significant moments in history for her
I do hope that Senator Clinton rejects the temptation to accept the SOS position because I firmly believe that this is simply a trap by Obama and his bosses(Donna, Pelosi, Dean, Kennedy,et al). We all remember how they destroyed her during the primaries. Now, they want to see her destroyed completely. this is the scenario: Obama offers the SOS position, she accepts it so she has to resign her Senate seat. Next, OBush, uhhhh-Obama makes it impossible for her to accomplish any thing, she is humiliated and is forced to resign–Like Colin Powell before Condi. Thus, she is left without the Senate and without the SOS— Mission accomplished!!!
another proud PUMA
I sincerely doubt Hillary Clinton is the kind to go quietly into that good night. And president or not, Obama can not in any way shape or form control Bill Clinton, a former 2 term President. So my take on it is that Obama knows he is weak in foreign policy, the economy is in the toilet, and he needs Hillary and Bill Clinton to bail his a$$ out of a mess he is just now realizing the magnitude of. He is out of his element and his comfort zone. We always said if we got Hillary we got Bill. Same thing here. Why else would he surround himself with all those Clintonistas? He needs them and he knows it.
Some a*hole from vanity fair was rabidly attacking Clinton on Larry King tonight.
He was livid that she had not accepted the position Obama supposedly offered her.
He said that she was making a fool out of Obama.
I can’t figure that one out. I didn’t realize that it was a great insult to consider a position, and then possibly turn it down.
And if she accepts it, CNN and the NYT will be attacking away.
Was the a**hole Chris Hitchens — or another a**hole??
Unfortunately, there are so many to choose from…
if Hillary becomes the Sec. State, it seems like she will be distracted by her other issues and/or her own career plans
I believe Sen. Clinton should keep her seat in the Senate. Obama doesn’t have any experience, so he wants the “best people” out there for him doing is do. Sen. Clinton is an extremely intelligent and experienced and known political figure in the world. She could fit in any position. I have no doubt about her resume or credentials. I hope that Sen. Hillary Clinton doesn’t accept this SOS spot (thinking of the capital letters: “SAME OLD SHIT’ just a different day). But only she can decide what she wants to do. And Sen. Clinton can continue doing her work as a senator and work on getting her campaign debt down; and if Obama fails, Hillary Clinton can have a shot at running in 2012. One can only “HOPE FOR REAL CHANGE” WHEN AND IF SHE BECOMES POTUS. It is just a damn shame that the “media” can’t move on without Clinton-bashing.