Comments on: Let Us Not Blame Hillary http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/20/let-us-not-blame-hillary/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:43:22 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Cheryl http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/20/let-us-not-blame-hillary/#comment-1057964 Cheryl Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:51:19 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6124#comment-1057964 Artemis, thank you for speaking up and voicing thoughts I have had for a long time. You couldn't speak more truly! Arienrod Artemis, thank you for speaking up and voicing thoughts I have had for a long time. You couldn’t speak more truly!

Arienrod

]]> By: nancy sabet http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/20/let-us-not-blame-hillary/#comment-1051929 nancy sabet Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:52:17 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6124#comment-1051929 I don't agree. She wants to help our country even if she has to work with evil , to make sure she is in the circle and knows what is happening. I don’t agree. She wants to help our country even if she has to work with evil , to make sure she is in the circle and knows what is happening.

]]> By: NomNomNom http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/20/let-us-not-blame-hillary/#comment-1051336 NomNomNom Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:08:23 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6124#comment-1051336 Thanks for the great post Artemis. When she would stump for BHO, I just couldn't even watch; I was so angry that we were cheated of the only real candidate of a major party. <em>Any of her former supporters who voted McCain and spewed venom at Clinton for stumping for BHO:</em> <strong>McCain stumped for Bushie TWICE.</strong> <strong>Bite me.</strong> Thanks for the great post Artemis.
When she would stump for BHO, I just couldn’t even watch; I was so angry that we were cheated of the only real candidate of a major party.
Any of her former supporters who voted McCain and spewed venom at Clinton for stumping for BHO: McCain stumped for Bushie TWICE.

Bite me.

]]> By: amanda_tx http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/20/let-us-not-blame-hillary/#comment-1051145 amanda_tx Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:31:11 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6124#comment-1051145 dont worry folks, the Obama gleam will wear off in time I think. great post re criticisms of Hillary. Have to admit I got a little testy during the ge and couldnt bear hearing or seeing Hill stump for him. But you are so right about impossible expectations and leveling criticisms at other women, as if they should be held to a different, more stringent standard than men. I cant help but feel hopeful that Hillary might accept SOS, she deserves a position of that stature. Go Hillary! dont worry folks, the Obama gleam will wear off in time I think.
great post re criticisms of Hillary. Have to admit I got a little testy during the ge and couldnt bear hearing or seeing Hill stump for him. But you are so right about impossible expectations and leveling criticisms at other women, as if they should be held to a different, more stringent standard than men.
I cant help but feel hopeful that Hillary might accept SOS, she deserves a position of that stature. Go Hillary!

]]> By: Wisewoman http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/20/let-us-not-blame-hillary/#comment-1051028 Wisewoman Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:10:34 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6124#comment-1051028 Soilder of christ I believe you are an imposter and i hope you are caught by the owner of this site. Soilder of christ I believe you are an imposter and i hope you are caught by the owner of this site.

]]> By: Wisewoman http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/20/let-us-not-blame-hillary/#comment-1051008 Wisewoman Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:56:13 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6124#comment-1051008 AnninCA. Why don't you stop lying on the Puma vote. Early in the process it was around 25%-28%. Thanks to Hillary and Bill they helped Obama whittle it down to about 16%. This was more than enough to beat Obama if the Repubs had not stayed at home as compared to their numbers in 2004. They are the ones who lost the election for Mccain not the PUMAs. Try to comment truthfully for a change then maybe people will take you seriously or just get a life. OBAMA IS A CREEP AND THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE. AnninCA. Why don’t you stop lying on the Puma vote. Early in the process it was around 25%-28%. Thanks to Hillary and Bill they helped Obama whittle it down to about 16%. This was more than enough to beat Obama if the Repubs had not stayed at home as compared to their numbers in 2004. They are the ones who lost the election for Mccain not the PUMAs. Try to comment truthfully for a change then maybe people will take you seriously or just get a life. OBAMA IS A CREEP AND THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE.

]]> By: Wisewoman http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/20/let-us-not-blame-hillary/#comment-1050991 Wisewoman Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:45:50 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6124#comment-1050991 AnninCa. It is not trash talk to openly lie about the most contentious issue in America; race. That type of escuse for Obama's conduct regarding the Clintons is totally unacceptable and he should not be escused but called out on his tactic of smearing the Clintons with the charge of racism. I am an AA female Hillary supporter. Let me tell each of you that many AAs (not me) now believe, falsely, that Bill and Hillary are racists. Obama, Michelle and his campaign deliberately used these tactics to win SC. Before the charges Hillary was leading among AAs 65% and was way ahead in the polls. After the charges her numbers plummented. This was a despicable tactic one that I will always despise Obama for using. I marched with Dr. King during my college years. He would be ashamed and disappointed in Obama especially regarding Bill Clinton. When Hillary refused to defend herself and did not allow Bill to defend himself (Its my campaign were her words) against the racism charge she made a horrible mistake. It emboldened Obama and he realized he could use the tactic with success throughout the primary and GE season. As far as the Obamas I am pretty sure they are laughing at all of us because you see they think they are smarter than all of you and they detest most white and black people. They laugh at how they "got over" on all of us. HILLARY UNINTENTIONALLY HELPED TO CREATE A MONSTER. SHE SHOULD STAY FAR FAR AWAY FROM HIM. AnninCa. It is not trash talk to openly lie about the most contentious issue in America; race. That type of escuse for Obama’s conduct regarding the Clintons is totally unacceptable and he should not be escused but called out on his tactic of smearing the Clintons with the charge of racism. I am an AA female Hillary supporter. Let me tell each of you that many AAs (not me) now believe, falsely, that Bill and Hillary are racists. Obama, Michelle and his campaign deliberately used these tactics to win SC. Before the charges Hillary was leading among AAs 65% and was way ahead in the polls. After the charges her numbers plummented. This was a despicable tactic one that I will always despise Obama for using. I marched with Dr. King during my college years. He would be ashamed and disappointed in Obama especially regarding Bill Clinton. When Hillary refused to defend herself and did not allow Bill to defend himself (Its my campaign were her words) against the racism charge she made a horrible mistake. It emboldened Obama and he realized he could use the tactic with success throughout the primary and GE season.
As far as the Obamas I am pretty sure they are laughing at all of us because you see they think they are smarter than all of you and they detest most white and black people. They laugh at how they “got over” on all of us. HILLARY UNINTENTIONALLY HELPED TO CREATE A MONSTER. SHE SHOULD STAY FAR FAR AWAY FROM HIM.

]]> By: Soldier of Christ http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/20/let-us-not-blame-hillary/#comment-1050953 Soldier of Christ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:27:58 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6124#comment-1050953 I worshipped the ground she walked on and was blogging for her for over two years. And, now I see what my republican friends were warning me about. I was blind to her ambitious ways. She screwed up her entire life, and if sec of state is what she has amounted to, the water pitcher gal for Obama, like Condi is to Bush, then let her have the job. After Obama loses in 2012, I believe by then the koolaid kids will finally get the real news from the media, Hillary will have to go back to her little job wiping her husband's cheating butte at home. Simple as that. Don't like what I said, well, too bad. I am over her. My admiration is long gone! There is another new gal in town and she talks straight to the american people, not out of two side of the mouth! I worshipped the ground she walked on and was blogging for her for over two years. And, now I see what my republican friends were warning me about. I was blind to her ambitious ways. She screwed up her entire life, and if sec of state is what she has amounted to, the water pitcher gal for Obama, like Condi is to Bush, then let her have the job. After Obama loses in 2012, I believe by then the koolaid kids will finally get the real news from the media, Hillary will have to go back to her little job wiping her husband’s cheating butte at home. Simple as that. Don’t like what I said, well, too bad. I am over her. My admiration is long gone! There is another new gal in town and she talks straight to the american people, not out of two side of the mouth!

]]> By: sarahb http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/20/let-us-not-blame-hillary/#comment-1050941 sarahb Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:20:03 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6124#comment-1050941 Thank you Artemis for this. You are right and you say it so eloquently too. I am not so eloquent but all I can say is that the people having a go at Hillary for keeping the promise of her campaign to support the winner make me feel sick. They're supposed to be her supporters, yet they fell at the first hurdle and took the opportunity to attack rather than support her. I think a lot of people have no understanding of how misogyny and sexism work against women. Hillary was cheated from the nomination, her power stolen from her by huge and malevolent forces, yet she's supposed to be a one woman crusade against them. Men won't let women win: people seem to have a really hard time acknowledging that despite all the mountains of evidence we saw throughout the election. Hillary at the start of her career decided that being an insider and working on change from within would be her approach in her political career and she's done it masterfully. There would be no sense in changing that tactic now to appease a few naive people - she'd be left with no career whatsoever. I'm just praying now that she manages to avoid Obama's SOS trap - the length of time it is taking to announce it makes me think she is working on it at least. Thank you Artemis for this. You are right and you say it so eloquently too.

I am not so eloquent but all I can say is that the people having a go at Hillary for keeping the promise of her campaign to support the winner make me feel sick. They’re supposed to be her supporters, yet they fell at the first hurdle and took the opportunity to attack rather than support her.

I think a lot of people have no understanding of how misogyny and sexism work against women. Hillary was cheated from the nomination, her power stolen from her by huge and malevolent forces, yet she’s supposed to be a one woman crusade against them. Men won’t let women win: people seem to have a really hard time acknowledging that despite all the mountains of evidence we saw throughout the election.

Hillary at the start of her career decided that being an insider and working on change from within would be her approach in her political career and she’s done it masterfully. There would be no sense in changing that tactic now to appease a few naive people – she’d be left with no career whatsoever. I’m just praying now that she manages to avoid Obama’s SOS trap – the length of time it is taking to announce it makes me think she is working on it at least.

]]> By: Tricia Spiegel http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/20/let-us-not-blame-hillary/#comment-1050895 Tricia Spiegel Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:55:53 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6124#comment-1050895 Good post--a lot worth considering! Good post–a lot worth considering!

]]> By: mary http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/20/let-us-not-blame-hillary/#comment-1050762 mary Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:45:50 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6124#comment-1050762 Jiffy ML Thanks! I've been angry as only a PUMA can be--FOR Hillary! She was vilified by the misogynist MSNBC fratboy leg thrillers--and guess what? Just read MSNBC's parent company GE capital received 140 billion dollars! No wonder Chrissy Matthews Obamabot UNO goes on air and says "We have to protect change"...He should be disqualified as journalilst and also Olbermann The crypto-gay guy with hangups galore! No wonder he's homophobic and misogynistic. All these Hillary-hating men have an axe to grind against women....since they were little boys. And some like Obamarama still are.... Does anyone care about the one million Iraqi women off in Syria and Jordan working as PROSTITUTES becuase Bushie Junior wanted a War to prove Himself to Daddy-o? The full catastrophe from his moron who's destroyed his country's good will and reputation and future....and he's still hanging on as Prez! No impeachment from the corrupt Brazile-Dean-Pelosi Group of Traitors to the unDemocratic Party! Jiffy ML
Thanks!

I’ve been angry as only a PUMA can be–FOR Hillary!
She was vilified by the misogynist MSNBC fratboy leg thrillers–and guess what? Just read

MSNBC’s parent company GE capital received 140 billion dollars! No wonder Chrissy Matthews Obamabot UNO goes on air and says “We have to protect change”…He should be disqualified as journalilst and also Olbermann The crypto-gay guy with hangups galore! No wonder he’s homophobic and misogynistic. All these Hillary-hating men have an axe to grind against women….since they were little boys. And some like Obamarama still are….

Does anyone care about the one million Iraqi women off in Syria and Jordan working as PROSTITUTES becuase Bushie Junior wanted a War to prove Himself to Daddy-o? The full catastrophe from his moron who’s destroyed his country’s good will and reputation and future….and he’s still hanging on as Prez! No impeachment from the corrupt Brazile-Dean-Pelosi Group of Traitors to the unDemocratic Party!

]]> By: Wow http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/20/let-us-not-blame-hillary/#comment-1050750 Wow Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:42:03 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6124#comment-1050750 You guys are really quite the bunch of...curiosities. I hope Clinton takes the SoS job because she is extremely well qualified, and because it allows Obama to neutralize her as an opponent in 2012. And I can't wait for her to overreach so the MSM can take her to task for forgetting that we have one president at a time. It's gonna be fun, folks. This kind of fun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv7K8S4kGQM You guys are really quite the bunch of…curiosities.

I hope Clinton takes the SoS job because she is extremely well qualified, and because it allows Obama to neutralize her as an opponent in 2012. And I can’t wait for her to overreach so the MSM can take her to task for forgetting that we have one president at a time.

It’s gonna be fun, folks. This kind of fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv7K8S4kGQM

]]> By: Sassy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/20/let-us-not-blame-hillary/#comment-1050731 Sassy Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:27:59 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6124#comment-1050731 Thank you for your very thoughtful post! Some portions I agree with, some I disagree. The "truth based" narrative you mention lies with each individual. My support for Senator Clinton was based on her experience and knowledge of issues, and her absolute devotion to hard work! However, she does not belong on a pedastal, and should not be viewed through rose-colored lenses! She can choose to support the "O"...I do not, will not! That puts me on the other side! Thank you for your very thoughtful post!
Some portions I agree with, some I disagree.
The “truth based” narrative you mention lies with each individual.
My support for Senator Clinton was based on her experience and knowledge of issues, and her absolute devotion to hard work!
However, she does not belong on a pedastal, and should not be viewed through rose-colored lenses!
She can choose to support the “O”…I do not, will not! That puts me on the other side!

]]> By: mary http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/20/let-us-not-blame-hillary/#comment-1050681 mary Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:08:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6124#comment-1050681 HARP sweetie Go drink your Bushie-kool-aid....and write a letter in support of impeachment of Dubbya while you're at it--on behalf of 200,000 Iraqi women now working as prostitutes in Syria and Jordan to support their families...and another 250,000 walking aimless and crippled in their own country, Iraq, after the mess your Bush-Messiah created. Your Bushocracy has destroyed the world and caused this meltdown and small wonder you're attached to your koo-aid IV still...Obamyopia is a curable affliction tho... read Artemis' column this time! HARP sweetie

Go drink your Bushie-kool-aid….and write a letter in support of impeachment of Dubbya while you’re at it–on behalf of 200,000 Iraqi women now working as prostitutes in Syria and Jordan to support their families…and another 250,000 walking aimless and crippled in their own country, Iraq, after the mess your Bush-Messiah created. Your Bushocracy has destroyed the world and caused this meltdown and small wonder you’re attached to your koo-aid IV still…Obamyopia is a curable affliction tho…
read Artemis’ column this time!

]]> By: mary http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/20/let-us-not-blame-hillary/#comment-1050672 mary Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:03:26 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6124#comment-1050672 THANKS, ARTEMIS....what a beautiful psudonym...Did you know you share the same name with HIllary Diane Rodham Cllinton? Diane of course is the latin equivalent of the Greek goddess protector of the vulnerable, protector of Children and the forest and promoter of Justice--ARTEMIS! suits Hillary to a t- Great post. Let's be watchful of the anorexic resume's attempts to fool us into thinking the big bad wolf has shed his evil ways cause he's learned how to cover himself in sheepskin! A Puma for Hillary--ALWAYS! THANKS, ARTEMIS….what a beautiful psudonym…Did you know you share the same name with HIllary Diane Rodham Cllinton?
Diane of course is the latin equivalent of the Greek goddess protector of the vulnerable, protector of Children and the forest and promoter of Justice–ARTEMIS! suits Hillary to a t-

Great post. Let’s be watchful of the anorexic resume’s attempts to fool us into thinking the big bad wolf has shed his evil ways cause he’s learned how to cover himself in sheepskin!

A Puma for Hillary–ALWAYS!

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