[Update] Hillary to Take SoS * David Ignatius, That A–h-le Pretentious Snob, Has Me So Furious I Could Throttle Him
By Lena Grove aka nasuS on November 21, 2008 at 4:08 PM in Current Affairs, Media Handling of Story, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
UPDATE: This is not an NBC conspiracy against Hillary. Here are more news and blog sites reporting much the same story:
Fox News is also reporting this now. Here’s one of many videos, this an early Today show video of Andrea Mitchell’s reports all day at MSNBC on the coming announcement:
David Ignatius’s column in today’s WaPo, “The Case Against Hillary“:
[...]
[T]he idea of subcontracting foreign policy to Clinton — a big, hungry, needy ego surrounded by a team that’s hungrier and needier still — strikes me as a mistake of potentially enormous proportions. It would, at a stroke, undercut much of the advantage Obama brings to foreign policy. And because Clinton is such a high-visibility figure, it would make almost impossible (at least through the State Department) the kind of quiet diplomacy that will be needed to explore options. …
OKAY! You are going to need a STRESS RELIEVER after reading that! So, below, I’ve provided you with a fun task! What ever shall we do with Bill Richardson ?!?!?!?!? Heh.
The Richardson “problem” is below. First, here’s more Ignatius:
[...] The foreign policy landscape already has too many big elephants wandering out from the Senate, with Sen. Joe Biden becoming vice president and former presidential candidate John Kerry taking over as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. With this many big talkers on the loose, it’s terrifying to imagine what life will be like in a few months for the booker on “Meet the Press.”
And I haven’t even mentioned here the biggest elephant of all, former President William Jefferson Clinton. I am a big fan of the ex-prez; he’s one of the wisest and most effective thinkers on foreign policy that I know. But it’s even harder to imagine him fitting in as the spouse of the secretary of state than as spouse of the president or vice president. I’ll leave to the transition’s team legal vetters the question of Bill Clinton’s potential conflicts of interest, after having been a “buckraker” speaker and door opener for wealthy business and political leaders around the world. But those leaders would surround almost everything Hillary Clinton tried to do in Foggy Bottom.
The most effective secretary of state I’ve covered in 30 years of writing about foreign policy was George Shultz. He was also the most apolitical. The least effective I can remember was Sen. Ed Muskie, another failed presidential candidate. Someone in Jimmy Carter’s entourage must have had a “team of rivals” idea when they named Muskie to succeed Cyrus Vance. But it was a bad idea then. And I’m sorry to say, it’s a bad idea now.
Blah blah blah.
Now, Al Kamen writes for today’s WaPo, “If Clinton’s the Pick, Where Does That Leave Richardson?“:
[...]
As for Richardson, Murguia suggested he could serve as secretary of commerce or the interior. “Perhaps there’s an ambassador role to China,” she added.
What ELSE could we do with Bill? Here are some thoughts of mine:
- The next mayor of Wasilla, Alaska
- Sarah’s envoy to Russia
- Chief negotiator between the Mexican drug cartel and the Mexican police
- Ambassador to the Galapagos Islands
- Personal deliveryman of booze to Kim Jong-il
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He should play the character of Phaht So, a political traitor, in the next James Bond movie.
LMAO!!!!
LOL. You’re TOO good!
LOLOL!!
Why believe NBC now?
This is probably an Obama leak to force Hillary to take a job where she becomes his pupet
Susan here: The only reason i went to MSNBC was because I heard Andrea Mitchell read that paragraph from Ignatius’s column, then introduce him. I tried and tried to find that video, but MSNBC hasn’t put it up or maybe won’t — it was during the 1 pm ET hour. (I DVR news shows on all channels, and try to watch them all, usually without success — but I want to know what they’re all reporting best I can.)
I could have then gone to CNN or Fox, but i was at MSNBC and it was easy to grab the embed code there.
As another comment says here, NPR is reporting much the same.
Oy.
The report I read did not sound 100% concrete she would be SOS:
Of course Andrea found the most negative piece she could to introduce the HRC announcement. She is one of the most rabid CDS infected talking heads on TV. What have these big mouths done for their country lately? I’ll take the person who has served with focus, dedication and intelligence for almost 40 years over the Opinionators any day.
I can’t wait to see her perform brilliantly, but don’t expect them not to hound and belittle her at every opportunity. It’s a disease.
Learn how to spell puppet! The paranoia is ridiculous.
Oh no, it’s Conan the Grammarianbot!
Hey Mr. Ferd!
Evening, Mr. Galt. It’s troll-slaying time once again in the No Quarter neighborhood.
On a side note, perhaps you can help me with products for herding my cats–I have so many of them.
No problemo. I’ll trade your choice of 1000 Quatloos worth cat herding supplies if I can place a bounty on a spelling and/or grammar cop-bot or two. Your usual ruthless troll emasculation services, of course.
And I agree with you, Hillary should not take the SOS job which by the way my reading of the news to date is, its not 100% for certain. Someone could still be dragging this out for political gain with no Hillary SOS in the end.
I agree. She should simply return the gesture That One (TM) gave her earlier in the campaign and give him the single-finger salute. She’s better off in the senate where she acan be a large burr in his dinky saddle.
Hey Ferd am I missing something here? Many people seem to be saying this Hillary SOS thing is a done deal. Is it? The reason I bring this up is this does not seem 100% definite. And I also read that report was the source for other reports, so I thought maybe this is being spun out of control. I’ve seen initial reports mischaracterized and spun out of control before and am only being prudent I think, to question what’s going on.
Whatever is going on they should stop acting juvenile with the media manipulation and posturing already and make a damn decision.
Richardson can be the HUD secretary.
Go Hillary, Go!! First Lady, Senator, SOS, (VP if Biden doesn’t run in 2012), and SCOTUS!! Amazing!
HUD as in Homely, Ugly and Dirty (politics)?
How about Secretary of CHUD (Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers)?
(CHUD was a nasty film I wish I had never watched.)
hmmmmm …. is that going on the menu? I still prefer biscotti, myself ….
Sounds like my childhood
Hey, I thought we need change.
The only change That One (TM) is bringing is what he could take from his supporters’ pockets.
MNSBC..one of the most biased outlets, won’t call it news organization…you really need at least 2-3 investigative honest reporters…..I will never believe the MSM…I hope everyone remebers this primary season…..MSM, corporate controlled, must be broken.
It is all over the news. I am listening “All Things Considered” on NPR and they are ‘discussing’ this nomination. What did I predict here a while ago? All the problems with Bill Clinton have been solved. He promised to do anything they will ask him to do to help Hillary to get the position. How sweet…
It is change. Change from do-nothing Condi to go-get-em Hillary.
She might be a go-getter but with a millstone around her neck like That One, she’ll get little accomplished. While I am a staunch HRC supporter, I believe that if she takes the position, she is truly foolish.
I agree. He can’t stand not to be the Only One. Her success will diminish him. This is not good. I see nothing good for her — and therefore this country — coming out of this.
Hillary sold her soul again. She will be Obama’s pawn. He will set her up and trip her up.
This is why she campaigned for Obama. They made a backroom deal. Pure sleaze.
What happened to the hope and change? This is politics as usual.
I don’t think it has anything so monumental as “soul” attached to it. I believe that she is convinced that this is a good place for her skills and interests. I don’t think most people who send their money to the Nigerian scammers intend to be taken to the cleaners. Really, really smart people make mistakes all of the time and do it for both good and bad reasons. I don’t know her. I won’t begin to make any claim on knowing her “soul.” Why do I not remember you as an HRC supporter?
Still dont get it. The SoS works FOR the president. They dont set their own policy they do the prez bidding. She believed his foreign policy opinions to be naive (and they are) and she will be required to implement that naivete. It should be fun having her meet with Amidinajad, the Castro boys, and N Korea “with no preconditions”.
She will be gone in 3 years and be neither SoS or Senator.
torland077…I agree with you. But I think the people getting on the bandwagon are looking for a little hope in this huge mess and not looking at the future for HRC. As much as I hate to admit it, Hillary might be the one thing that keeps a bunch of people from leaving the country. No one feels safe with Fraudbama on his own with our foreign policy.
Hello B
You have stated so well the argument.
There are those that see Hillary getting hurt.
and
Folks like myself who see this as a Battle for which America has got to win
There will be patriots aplenty that sacrificed for their country..
Hillary is one of those people.
For the good of country…So help me God!
I just posted elsewhere…You have a lovely attitude about all of this Moss. I will never get on the Fraudbama bandwagon, but I understand your enthusiasm over SOS Clinton.
my latest prediction..
You will come around to my side…
Nah. I will continue to protest against Fraudbama and try to stop him from sticking around too long. But I can throw out my sleeping pills because of the Hillary news.
LOL!!
Can’t always agree on everything..
Just look a Carville and Matalin
I think everyone getting all “Hopey and Changey” and Kumbaya about this is going to backfire big time. I already see disappointment from people who aren’t getting the Christmas goodies. I just hope lots of hearts aren’t broken.
Sorry to raise my leg on this 0mama fest.
Hopey dopey seems to be prevailing even here at NQ. Do you have anything to base this rosey scenario on? I am all ears if you can find me ONE PLACE where he has been receptive to any idea that is not his. All.Ears.
Obama running for President was an industry that has succeeded in what it set out to do..Win..
Now Obama has to lead or we all go down..
I believe Obama wants to be a great president but has not a clue to the machinations of government.
Now it really doesn’t matter what Obama and the far left wish would happen.
Obama has seen the briefings and is petrified to what it takes to protect this country.
Obama is moving fast to put the Clinton foreign policy in exile back in office in high gear.
No more playing around..Obama knows this now.
He isn’t you. He sat in that church. He embraced Ayers. Sorry. I think you are in for a huge disappointment. I truly wish it were not so.
I understand but isnt there the belief that Hill has been a source of good ideas on a host of important problems? Health care, tax policy, credit crisis, etc. … where do the ideas start coming from now? Pelosi, Reid, Waxman, Frank?
I think Hillary supporters who think she should accept are willing to give up a lot to see her become a high profile sales person for Obie’s bad ideas.
Yes you are right. But this is a very emotional time for everyone. This is a big Hillary supporter site, so I think people are just hoping somehow she gets close to the Presidency that she was robbed of. And there is blind hope that she will be able to compel Obama to do things, which she won’t. She couldn’t stop him from committing caucus fraud and stealing her nomination. How is she going to stop him from his looney tunes policies? Nevertheless, if it gives people hope, so be it.
As for Reid, Pelosi, etc. having the ideas? Yeah, that’s the case. That makes me very sad. Now that Fraudbama stole the White House, I get to spend two years praying that in 2010 the Pelosi gang of thieves will be run out of Congress.
Being three spots away doesn’t get her any closer. SHE LOST. I deplore that as much as anyone here. But in the Senate she is a meaningful voice. HE IS GOING TO SILENCE HER. Doesn’t that bother anyone?
Beebop…this bothers a lot of people too. You’re not alone. One of my friends who is a Hillary delegate and true “insider” says everyone knows that he’s doing it to “disempower” her. Who knows? If she chooses to do it, then she has to deal with what happens.
Beebop, it bothers the hell out of me! I’m so disappointed that she’s choosing to do it. And OIAF is right, it’s her choice and she has to deal with the outcome. It’s just too bad, she could have had her own voice in the Senate and continued pushing her agenda on healthcare, women’s rights, etc. Now, she’s just a parrot squawking out his naive and narcissistic ramblings…..Bamboozle wanna cracker??
SFIndiePuma…I just got a call from a bunch of my Hillary friends who just happened to be together having a meeting on some Hillary stuff. They have to give it up now, obviously, since she just took the job. But BOY are they ALL pissed that she did it. Really freaked.
I don’t get it, OIAF. Why would she do it? I wish I’d been a fly on the wall when she and Bill talked about why she would even consider it, because it makes NO sense to me. I don’t blame your friends for being pissed. It just boggles the mind.
That is the question, why did she do it? We may find out in the end.
I keep wondering, if Odrama is the puppet, who is the puppetmaster? That is what bothers me. Didn’t we know from the get go that Cheny was Bush’s puppetmaster?
I’m trying to think with all the Clinton folks in the new new deal (probably new bad deal), that just maybe the Clintons are the puppetmasters. That actually sits well with me. They can lead the country again and then they Odrama there to take the blame. Maybe the backroom deal was that they could not take out Odrama in May or with a roll call vote and upset all the AAs and they said they would give it to him if they set the real agenda. I don’t know. They would have to know they have something big to take him down with if they can’t keep him in line. I just don’t know what to make of it, except that I do feel safer with Hillary as SOS and she is chossing to play down and dirty politics this year.
One thing that truly bothers me is that Rezko helped G W Bush and then chose to help Odrama. We need to look at Rezko more closely, aside from his indictment. I think we may need to go back decades and see what is his full story!
Who is really our Government? This scares me!
It’s easy. Country first. And with Obama and Pelosi and Reid – all weaklings, she knew that she was needed. Tough, strong, grown-up.
And no matter what happens, she will continue to work hard to do the best she can to improve the country and the world. There are no dead-end jobs for Hillary.
Yeah, right, just like Chimpy did. Hahaha. That One has no ideas, except those he stole from her. What she presents as ideas, he’ll steal from her but she’ll still end up getting her way. That one is a simpering neophyte who needs her far more than she needs him.
He has plenty of ideas, they just are politically palatable so he steals others to get elected. I think he might be a little more motivated and devious then you give him credit for.
“politically unpalatable. sorry
EXACTLY. Do you think that Axelrod spent the past two years buffing this product to let the Clintons have their day? GET. REAL.
That One is nothing more than a narcissist who will sell himself to the highest bidder or to those who can continually stroke his mangy ego. He may be clever but his intelligence is far overrated. He can’t even string two pretty sounding words together without creating a stammer or two.
Sorry, but I see the carpet bagger for what he is–a mediocre snake-oil salesman who hoodwinked a large group of really stupid people.
I agree with you completely.
Sad, pitiful actually, to see where Hillary was to her now, being OVomit’s little pet.
Barf!
I don’t think people understand that the SOS doesn’t make their own policy, the do the President’s bidding……heavy lifting.
This time it will be for a brainless, incompetent narcissist, what’s so terrific about that?
So…. do you want more wars? More deaths in the world? More starvation, women hatred?
It is fine to think Obama is a ‘brainless, incompetent narcissist’, quite correctly, may I say – but perhaps Hillary’s common sense, hard work and abilities will help to make some of the problems in the country and the world less. Country (and world) first.
Pehaps that might be so. It’s not that I don’t trust HRC as I do. It’s That One who I don’t trust in any way, form, or fashion. HRC might do well to seriously consider his actions before, during, and after the election before accepting. Personally, I’d rather see her as a large bur in his dinky saddle by being a strong Senator.
How often does the opportunity to be the Secretary of State of the United States come along? It is a pivotal role. My bet is that she will be brilliant at it.
I’m no fan of O but at least he didn’t pick a yes man or women like Kindauseless Rice.
Brilliant! LMAO brilliant!
I hope an prey it is not true.
To have the two people who really love this country work for that scummy – sleasy – racist -anti anmerican – know nothing breaks by heart.
There will be no democrat in congress that gives a damn about this country if she takes this job.
WOMEN,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
When cabinet officials swear, they take an oath to uphold the Constitution, just like te Pres. or VP. not the president or their immediate bosses.
Obama will not be able to tell Clinton what to do, since he doesn’t know very much to do that; he doesn’t care, as long as he gets the credit. And Hillary doesn’t care about the credit; just being able to do something good for her country.
Please. Get real. Who do you think the “united states” is for the next four years?????
It is a done deal. Hillary Clinton our new SoS.
Bill Richardson–
President of the “Homosexuality is a Choice Club.”
I was born heterosexual. I never made that choice.
I wonder how hard Bill struggled with his sexuality, if he thinks it’s a choice.
He took one look at himself and the decision made itself.
When turkeys mate they dream of swans …
Very o/t I know, but I couldn’t resist.
LMAO
I read the WAPO, but not those columnists who have clearly distinguished themselves as incapable of realistic, intelligent unbiased analysis.
I don’t give him a second thought, no more relvant than that of some highly pretentious, uninformed, self important blogger.
that of ——–> should have been stricken, sorry.
I used to be a fan of Richardson until he pulled a Judas — now no one trusts him, not even the Obama camp. He’s damaged goods.
What roll could there possibly be for someone of such low character? Perhaps mascot for the Obama WH because he embodies what that administration is all about anyway — throwing people under the bus.
I meant “role”!
Commerce, I’ve read…
( I actually like “roll,” made me think of parker or crescent …)
Judas for Commerce? A fitting replacement for Subprime Penny imho.
It fits, as Bill is a butterball with a goatee.
Ferd..you did NOT just say…
“Bill is a butterball with a goatee”
ROFLMAO. Man are YOU funny.
It hits me sometimes. He looks like a damn Honeysuckle white (or butterball) with a goatee. I swear. Turkey is off this Thanksgiving.
Sweet.
According to gretawire, Richardson is secretary of commerce.
Well, there goes commerce — down the same toilet as the treasury….
I still would have liked Senator Clinton to have remained in Senate. She would be more of her own woman and be able to critize the Barry Soetoro administration when needed. Barry Soetoro, can’t be trusted! Hope everything turns out well for our real leader and country. She willl have to watch her back every minute with that criminal crowd from Chicago’s gutter politics.
It’s not like they’re the CIA, they’re only Chicago kooks.
They’re the Chicago kooks in charge … have they ever found Hoffa’s body? …..
No, but I can’t say they’re going to succeed.
IL is broke.
IL is broke … so now they are looking to take the rest of us to the cleaners??? Is that the comfort or the chastening? I’m just trying to stay on top of these things.
It means without money, they fail.
So, TPTB either get it together, and clean it up, or they die, too.
Great nations don’t happen by accident.
No, but I can’t say they’re going to succeed.
IL is broke.
Perhaps that was the point.
Hey David Ignatius,
BWAAHAAAHAAA!!!
I heard Richardson is going to Commerce.
Godspeed, Hillary!
Sorry to cut in off topic, but is this legit? How is THIS(I know I should cease to be amazed)not in news!
http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/
This is earth shattering! We may yet have hope after all.
LOL no it is ugly desperate crap fantasy
Gee … I thought you were the ugly desperate crap fantasy … so … now that I know you’re not you must be my awful after dinner maybe I’m sick reality? Do you get it yet, grumpy? He.sold.you …….. and that is just so darn justified because YOU PEOPLE are gullible. And. I mean that in the nicest possible way ….. lol.
I’d say your little plastic chin strap is a bit too tight, there, bot. And stop getting cheetoh dust on your Mommy’s computer.
Yes it is entirely legit and it is in front of SCOTUS. Greenery is a little troll who knows nothing about this issue. I have a link to some documentation that explains the entire issue as well. Ignore the trolls like greenery. Anyone supporting Fraudbama when he refuses to show his BC is nuts.
I still have a feeling Obama is gonna fire all the Clinton supporters in his cabinet. Yeah, I’m paranoid, but I see no reason why Obama would pick Hillary.
Perhaps the people like Podesta are helping him to avoid the pitfalls.
Everyone has their knives out, from world class governments, to, fercryingoutlous, IRAN.
It’s best to go in with people who know the score.
Cheney chose the hard assed approach, all force and threat trying to disguise his own massive fears, and he failed, as expected, catastrophically, taking the country with him.
It could be worse –ie, Pritzker in Commerce, for instance.
Of course, who knows, these things take on a life of their own.
Unless there were backroom deals from the start, with Obama as a democratic figurehead, much like Bush was to the neocons.
Problem is, those things never work, as the figurehead is the easiest crack, especially when they’re corrupt, and grossly unqualified.
Still, I agree with Mr. X.
There are two things I remember:
1) After Hillary was “forced out” of the race in June, Bill Clinton made some remarks in an interview that the truth would be told (he might have said after the New Year, but I don’t remember ). Does anyone remember these remarks?
2) When Obama came to NYC on September 11, he had lunch with Bill Clinton.
If I were a betting woman, I would bet that Hillary (and you must give her credit for being the smart, sharp, shrewd operator that she is) has had a copy of O’s original birth certificate from day one. Whatever is on it, must be a real “game changer” if ever revealed. That must be the ‘trump card’! If so… she could have anything she wants from O. Look how he is packing his administration with all of the loyal Clintonites. YEP, I think the bloggers had this whole B/C (conspiracy theory so I thought) pegged long ago. And, Atty Berg’s suit (a Clinton supporter), the Pennsylvania judge who threw it out(a Bill Clinton appointee), and Pres. Clinton’s reference to O’s constitutional eligibility statement back on the campaign trail, makes this entire saga come full circle. BTW: She will probably be the best Madam Secretary this nation has ever had. We will be watching….
ya Hillary never wanted to me prez
It has always been about the SOS position
The colb is his. Real bc.
greenery, you do know that you embarrass yourself with this nonsense about the COLB being his BC don’t you? If that’s the case, for the 100th TIME, he should just produce a real version. And like I sent your little troll butt off to do…go do research. I can provide the exact code for the law in Hawaii that allows babies to be registered in Hawaii with a COLB even if they are born elsewhere. You never give any real, intelligent, legitimate statements to back up your nonsense.
greenery is a dumb as a salad bowl, like all bots.
Man have they brought in some of the dimmest of the crowd in the past few days. WTF is up with THAT?
LMAO. Apparently those bots with IQs over 70 (about a dozen or so) are on the transition team in DC. The rest (millions upon millions) are taking turns posting here.
Do any of the bots have an IQ over 70? I thought to be a bot you had to register about a 50 on the IQ test. LOL…Good to know we got the dregs.
Dear God PLEASE let it go with the birth certificate already!!!!!!!
Why in the world would Hillary have a copy? And if she did, don’t you think she would have used it by now??
There really is nothing in this world more annoying than the birth certificate conspiracy.
Lorelai…It’s not a conspiracy. Americans have the right to challenge the eligibility of the President. Are you denying that? Have YOU seen a real BC? No, because NO ONE has. The patriotic folks who are doing this are upholding our Constitution, rather than just sitting around watching it be violated. Like everyone says, if Fraudbama has nothing to hide, then why is he hiding behind lawyers in 17 lawsuits, two of which have climbed the ladder to the Supreme Court? If Justice Thomas thought like you, that it’s complete BS, then he would have dismissed it. He didn’t. I would tend to take something seriously if the 9 Supreme Court Justices are going to have a conference on it December 5, rather than just listen to bloggers blast off. It’s a serious issue. Some of us like the Constitution a lot.
Okay, now there are 2 of us… and I would bet there are many, many more. Assuming our suspicions about the cards she is holding are true, this would explain why this offer/acceptance is taking so long. Working out logistics as to how she can get the top security briefings she is cleared for during this transition period; and then, report back to him. Because unlike some of his transition team, he has not been investigated for a top security clearance. Knowing from experience how loyal HRC is to the Party; he is confident she will not give his ruse away. (But if he is sworn in on January 20; won’t the MSM eventually figure out only SHE attends top security briefings? Oh, how very stupid of me; MSM! Joke’s on me.) Anyway, without having done the research, I don’t know whether BO needs a top security clearance, once he is sworn in. If he doesn’t then, he just needs HRC to get him across the finish line… again.
Isn’t it great that we might swear in a guy who wouldn’t be able to pass FBI security clearance and refuses to show his citizenship status? What a great country. Like his “family friend” Billy-America-Makes-Me-Puke says…”Guilty as hell, Free as a bird…”
Richardson is Sect’y of Commerce, but I like your suggestions, Lena, paticularly this one:
“Sarah’s envoy to Russia”
although mayor of Wasilla would work, too.
How funny! But the stockmarket took the news well with all these announcements; Treasury, Commerce and State. We had a rally at the end, a near 500 pt boost.
As for the Hillary bashing, I’m preparing to take Biden’s suggestion and “gird my loins.” Hillary will have to do what she’s done before: be spectacular, something I know she’ll be, and prove her detractors dead-wrong [again].
If you can’t beat ‘em, make them eat their words. I trust she’ll do that many times over. Until the critics all have indigestion.
Hillary will have to do what she’s done before: be spectacular, something I know she’ll be, and prove her detractors dead-wrong [again].
As a female, this is what I find particularly irksome. I didn’t realize it until I saw your comment. But I am totally fed up with the expectation that she has to be f’ing super woman all of the time. I can’t fathom why in God’s name she signed up to have every freaking phrase she utters in public scrutinized more than the asshole she’s going to work for. Is it just me or is she his first line of defense?
I’m with you Beebop. Though male, I thought the same thing.
Thank you, Andrew. I guess some of my reaction is that I am pretty close to HRC’s age. I’ve been hearing for far tooooo long that any day now we’ll all be the same.
O/T my mother is in hospice at home with me. I thank GOD for people like you every day. The crew that works with mom and me are my life line to sanity ….
Big hug.
Hey, I agree the whole idea of Hillary or any other women needing to prove and reprove herself is beyond irksome–it’s fucking ridiculous. But this is the world we live in.
It would be easy to just give it up and walk away. But HRC has demonstrated [to me, at least] that giving up is just “not” in her DNA. And I admire that quality. I also trust her judgment and know she and Bill are far more politically savvy than most Washington types. So, there has to be a reason she believes the decision is in her and the party/country’s best interest.
Will she be “his” first line of defense? No doubt in my mind that if things start going bellyup, she will be a first, dramatic sacrifice. But if it all goes to hell, it won’t make much difference. Because we’ll all be taking the same nosedive.
Yup.
Because she is a great woman who can do really great things in this world, despite all the bo’s and other jerks in the way.
Richardson should suffer the same fate as Judas.
Obama will probably think “well, if he turned on the Clintons who actually did something for him…then how quickly will he turn on me???”
Buh-bye Richardson.
Didn’t I just read that Antarctica needs an Ambassador?
That’s where Richardson should go.
I wonder who Obama will assign as Hillary’s watcher?
I’m predicting that she will be fired by 0 by next summer.
Once she enters the hive of the Chicago mob — they’ll probably suck her brains out. I guess when women are abused as long as she’s been abused that they lose self respect.
I totally agree. She will be licking her wounds by this time next year.
The Chicago mob isn’t terribly intelligent.
Past any glamour others needed to project onto them (for a sense of manliness, I guess) most felt scorn for their lack of sophistication.
All I have ever wanted in this campaign was a Leader who understands the threats facing us.
I supported Hillary and was a delegate. I got up at the caucus and warned people on foreign policy and how the party was taken over by the radical left.
Hillary insures Rational Foreign Policy.
Foreign policy based on the reality of the threat.
Prevent National suicide!!
As a Hillary supporter my wish for a strong USA based on peace through strength has prevailed.
We will not have retreat and defeat of America in the world as long as Hillary is the SOS
I’m dancing in the streets..Anybody want to join me?
Sorry — no can do.
I feel sorry for her — and I’ll try to remember her as she once was before having her brains sucked out.
I will not be able to watch what happens. Bill “engaging” an intern in a room off the Oval office will be nothing compared to what 0bama does to her — publicly.
Why do you see her as victim?
Because that is what is going to happen. Look at what some of the posters are saying here. Hillary will Save the Day. She’s underdog with no cape. She held one small defense — the voters in New York who elect her and can re-elect her — and by taking this job she loses their protection. She’s going to villified when things go wrong and the credit will go to the man when things go well. What good news do you expect to hear of her? That’s the facts, jack.
I dont see her as saving the day, I mean, it’s Iran and Russia, after all, and Iraq IS a huge mess.
Maybe she can help provide some sort of foundation, and that’s a start. (But after Cheney’s group, a Russian stickman with a bongo would be an improvement)
But, you know, she handles herself, I don’t see her as suffering from Obama’s ignorant campaign moves, in fact, it makes me think Obama’s group is unskilled, amateurish, Clinton, looking all the more the player, and professional. (Psst — team O — 99 problems but not that b*tich? Who gave ya that, the same mo who tells you you’re Lincoln? Watch what you eat, you look silly).
Sorry, it’s ALL just so amatuer, it’s still my feeling the election was decided a long time ago, for whatever reason, and some of Obama’s people fail to see the bigger picture.
Anyway, I think she may have marginalized them, simply by her conduct, and a certain dignity.
She can handle it.
Northwest Rain…Me too. When Moss starting talking about the “caucus” and being a “delegate,” it brought it all back. Part of me feels a small bit safer, because I’m not sleeping at all lately over this disaster. But the other part of me feels bad for her. Only time will tell how much she can get done, or if insecure little Bambi keeps her on the short leash. It’s already out there that part of the negotiation is that she can’t “upstage” him or some words to that affect. Will have to find the link to where I saw that. Ughh….
The ONLY good news? I get to laugh at the Far Left folks who had no idea the same old, same old was on its way to DC. I loved that post someone had up here about how irate the wing nuts are about the Clinton stuff. Where’s my “I Told You So” tattoo going?
As much as I dislike Obama, I’m dancing with you Seattle Moss.
Me too Moss!
Well, I’ll walk those streets, Seattle. Maybe skip a few times. Not ready to dance yet.
Am I still worried and a tad conflicted? Yes. Do I feel a measure of confidence in our ongoing foreign policy? Absolutely. I never bought into the retreat and defeat, “can’t we all get along” approach.
Hillary’s smart and tough. She would not have survived this long if she weren’t. So, yes. I’m doing a little skip now. The world’s a dangerous place. I guess the Pope of Hope is beginning to realize that. Hillary actually gives me a reason to hope for our long-term survival.
I agree Hillary will do a good job as SoS. She will bring good will to the country. But her effectiveness will be limited by the ambiguity that Obama will cater on every venue.
seattle moss i am also glad to see summers won’t get the treasury or obama’s little friend penny won’t be in commerce. i think hillary will be most instrumental in keeping stability in the middle east. so i’ll take a tiny dance step, the first ever since the primaries.
So it seems that the position of POTUS is now officially a figurehead. First Bush (although Reagan defined the role) and now barky who also seems quite content to leave the real work to the grownups, the pre “change” grownups.
I predict a two-year fund raising/publicity tour ala W. They’ll keep him away from the WH as much as possible and leave him to what he’s most suited for: bs-ing his adoring fans.
Works for me.
And they’ll call it the “Empty Suit” tour or perhaps “Jackass on Parade”.
I think you nailed it dead on balls. Barky knows he can’t handle real work…he’s leaving it up to the grown ups.
Well, he did call himself “The Delegator”.
Wasn’t that GWB? I know that they are easy to confuse …
I though GWB was the deciderer who was always misunderestimated or was he the misunderestimator who always decidered? All I know is that he must be forever banned from wearing flightsuits and codpieces. Yucko.
Who delegated better?
That One will delegate everything including the blame until the chickens come home to roost. He will make Dubya look like a piker.
This is exactly what I have been thinking. Obama gives the hard work to the really smart people and that lets him get ready for the 2012 election. Didn’t he already say he may not be able to accomplish everything he wants to do in just one term?
That is part and parcel of the shitty boss syndrome.
Great days ahead. Hopey Changey Washington.
Where is the change? It looks to me like a re-run of the Clinton Administration. Even the choice for Treasury Secy was once in the Clinton Administration’s Treasury Dept.
Strange that so many of Obama’s choices come from the past Clinton Administration. Take a bow, Bill, they wanted rid of the Clintons so badly and now they’ve decided to copy your administration. You must have done something right to have Obama opt for so many of your people.
The Commerce Dept. will go straight down the tubes with Judas Iscariot in charge. Nobody will believe a word that comes out of Commerce. Just as Richardson tanked in Energy in the Clinton Administration IMO he will tank in Commerce.
Commerce is not that difficult and carries very little risk. Richardson will do well in Commerce. Richardson is a very talented man.
Obama is triangulating his position to give himself cover.
If Obama wants to talk to Iran and sends Hillary first, what can people say? Hillary’s a hawk.
Iran is not a stable country, they’d just as soon shoot your mom as negotiate.
We need to see them as they are, and let them know we see them as they are, not as their PR would pretend.
Certainly, Cheney’s insanity in regard to bombing was NUTZ, but it’s not realistic to proray Iran as anything other than what it is — a very unstable supporter of state sponsored terrorism.
Their government, that is, not their people.
And the two differ, that should be clear.
So, if Obama sends Hillary do you think she’ll refuse? If she does, she gets blamed if Iran builds the bomb.
She will, at the very least, have to make overtures, it is a diplomatic endeavor.
Cheney didn’t, he sent threats, or Halliburton.
I would hope the idea is to persuade the Iranian govt to reconsider it’s terrorist intentions, diplomatically, but with a sense of realism — they’re hardly trustworthy, or realistic about themselves, they’re corrupt, and they kill, as terrorists, or terrorist supporters.
But like most of us, they like to eat.
(And their relationship with Russia needs to be examined, too, in the larger context, as well as their relationship to Iraq, hence, America).
And lest I forget, the British, too, have been dealing with much, publicly declaring they’re almost at cold war status with Russia.
That, IMO, is a big deal.
This Obama guy is surrounding himself with the old politicians to do the job for him. No doubt why people call him intelligente. I will call him ’smarty-pants’ instead.
And I’ll tell That One (TM) that those smarty pants are also on fire.
He’s not taking calls. He’s already trying to figure out his next career move.
He’s going to become an alchemist and find a way to turn gold into lead. Of course, he won’t realize he’s gone in the wrong direction, until….
I guess Hillary can go the Powell route and say that she advised him against talking to Iran but he wanted to do it anyway.
Yeah, HRC could present her case for not negotiating with Iran to That One by caling him on his “Words of Mass Deception”, a much better phrase for WMD in this case.
News is coming fast and furious out of Camp Barky.
Hillary says yes. Richardson at Commerce. Tim Gwhatever at Treasury. Girls are going to Sidwell Friends. (I am glad about that one, after Rev. Wright screaming and swearing and humping in the pulpit, I’m sure they could use a little quiet and peaceful Quakerism for a pleasant change)
It’s cause it’s Friday. If people like the picks, Obama takes credit. If people don’t like them, he’ll have new ones for them on Monday.
Isn’t Sidwell Friends also where Chelsea went to school?
I would say that is a good choice for them.
But the treasury sec doesn’t look to good, a part of this bailout failure, according to some, heading the new york fed, I think…
Yes, it was also Chelsea’s school.
Senator Clinton is no dullard; regardless of what was said during the primary season, she does have experience with many foreign leaders, and she is the sharpest knife in the drawer. I would rather all things had worked out different, as we all would, but I don’t see Senator Clinton as a victim, in this decision. She has always been a deliberate person, so I will as always give her my support in her efforts and choose to believe her intentions are no different than when she was a candidate, she does believe in country first.
Certainly Clinton got the best of Obama by showing up his inarticulateness and indecisiveness at every debate.
Her natural skills somehow bring out his true character, or lack thereof, without being pretentious about it and to suggest Hillary needs to be worried about being fired I think is a little ridiculous.
And this gets her what as SOS? A jet? Oh. Right. That comes with the job. Until he kicks her to the curb. Please.
Also, probably many people are taking next week off. If they don’t announce the picks now, they have to pretty much wait for December 1st anyway.
My guess is that someone in the campaign is hoping for a bump on the news. When it starts to trade up on Monday, they sell and pull the rug. Gee. Do I sound like a cynic? Thank you (in no particular order) to the democraptic leaderlessship.
I hope this isn’t being “floated” to see how it flies first, because as expected the slamming and sick remarks are abounding everywhere again about Senator and President Clinton, I will not watch another round of this kind of bashing; it never stops, they never tire of it, it is at the very least, sadistic.
The “everywhere bashing” I am referring to is all over the MSM(mutton-headed media) and the usual suspects online.
Hmmm…if Hillary accepts SoS she must have negotiated one hell of a deal where NOBODY not even Barky himself can boss her around. In order for that deal to happen either Barky finally realizes he’s in way over his head OR Hillary has a sh*tload of dirt on him and made it very clear he cannot touch her.
Something’s up. Bill and Hillary are master strategists.
Funny thing is Obama clearly needs Hillary but if she were now in her rightful place as POTUS …not to be condescending…but what would Hillary need Obama for? Obama could only help as a campaign asset but what competent individual would need his help to govern?
Catherine you say it well; and exactly what I couldn’t put into words. Thank you!
Aww…you’re welcome…and thanks.
Okay … you notice who is President, right? Who has the power? Who doesn’t? “former” versus “Current?” WAKE the hell up!
I’m very much awake. Who do you think has been running this country for the past 8 years? Bush? More like Cheney/Rumsfeld.
If a president is a weakling to begin with and has an over inflated ego how difficult can it be for shrewder and stronger personalities to pull his strings?
I’m inclined to agree with you. I’ve thought all along that That One is only interested in himself and not in any real agenda. He will be controlled by whoever can give him what he wants–ego massaging, the centering of attention on him, the title of President and its associated perks. He cuts a very weak personage in the presence of strong wills, otherwise, as amply demonstrated by the debates.
Did anyone register HillaryisSOS, yet? That might be profitable.
What’s being left out here is a reason Hillary Clinton decided SOS. Eventually being a junior Senator is not platform for action on any ambitious agenda. In order to gain a more viable platform for any change, Hillary has to take the risk and accept the offer. She evidently has been weighting the pros/cons and did not come to this decision hastily. I might also add that in my mind, the Congress has been an ineffectual organization. Better to move out of there in a role were people have to take seriously (and report) what you say.
On the reason for the offer, Obama may be a lying weasel, but he’s not stupid. He’s in over his head and he knows it. His gang from the local hood, Alexrod, et.al. ain’t ready for prime time. He’s surrounding himself with strong personalities with backgrounds in government and government operations. As an “inspiration” leader who can’t clean his own desk, others will be doing the heavy lifting in his administration. His job will be get elected, again.
in case anyone should misunderstand, this doesn’t increase my respect for Obama one iota. For Hillary, I trust her judgment and think even with the stigma of Obaman, she will do ok.
Besides the irony of hearing Obaman supporters rant how evil Clinton’s stance on the War was, to now have her help directing foreign policy of their alternative, is too rich to ignore.
That’s for sure. Her economic proposal before the bailout was generally ignored. Being in Congress is politically only good for one thing – getting your share of the pork.
Lena, your suggestions for jobs for Richardson are hilarious. I might also add a previous poster’s suggestion, that he could appear in martial arts movies as the malicious Phaht-So, what with his evil goatee and squinty Judas-like malevolence.
LMAO. You nailed it.
Come on. Richardson is a real good guy. Yes he is a Judas but outside of that, a real good guy.
Marc Rubin has an interesting perspective on this.
It’s great!! Hillary was the best pick on the planet, and this shows that Obama has more horse sense than I thought! And I wouldn’t worry about him pulling some trick to get rid of the Clintons. He needs them if he wants a successful Presidency, and he would shoot himself in the foot if he back-stabbed her once she’s in his administration. It would look like he had bad judgment, and Bill would pull out all the stops to get back at him.
I’d make Richardson amb. to Mexico.
I wouldn’t be to much onto the horse sense. As Marc R. points out in his article, this was a deal Obama felt he had to make back in June.
Link please?
the link:
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/
If your looking for evidence of such a deal, its not here. Just speculation.
As to promising a future cabinet post for political support to more than one person, this is nothing new. For one, a candidate can skirt the issue on breaking his/her word by having surrogates make the promise and later denying knowledge. Hey, what can a guy do? This is O all over.
by the way, the links don’t seem to be working on my machine. maybe I don’t have the authority to link, so its cut and paste.
I’m wondering if this position was promised to Kerry, and Richardson, too, and how that worked itself out.
But, no matter, Clinton sinks or swims on her own merit, she’s probably used to the stink, by now, old, I mean really, old hat.
But it’s nice to see the scene makers so busy.
They’re very important people.
What would we do without their intellectual brilliance?
It no doubt was.
Funny thing is everyone is saying she’s accepted the SoS position – except Hillary.
I see Hillary as smart, capable, and experienced. Has she earned and is she fit for the job? Yes. So was Colin Powell. People forget the SoS works for the President.
The idea that Hillary can, as if she were President, forge her own foreign policy agenda is still ludicrous to me.
Fact: Obama appoints her he can fire her.
Fact: Obama is her boss. No matter how wrong his foreign policy it’s her responsibility to carry it out.
Fact: Hillary’s only means of protest against said foreign policy is to publicly speak out and resign.
If she does that she’ll be vilified as a back stabbing liar – even if she’s right.
Hillary hasn’t accepted the job yet and the same MSM and so-called liberal bloggers are already tearing her apart. Do you think they’ll suddenly blame Obama for foreign policy blunders? Of course not. They’ll blame Hillary.
Obama doesn’t even have a cohesive foreign policy to implement. As Pres Sarzoky so well put it ‘utterly immature’ comprised of ‘formulations empty of all content,”very problematic,’ ‘arrogantly ignorant’ and ‘not crystallized.’
He will take credit for Clintonian ideas and successes, no doubt, but be her overseer and bully — no way. At least not as his confidence allows at present.
We seem to be 40/40/20
I agree with you. This is the snake who tried his best to crap on the Clintons. Who knew that memory would be so short?
I dunno.
Maybe people think Obama, and his team, aren’t capable of formulating foreign policy — you watched the primaries?
And … your confidence that he will:
1. Listen to her?
2. Respect her?
3. Not kick her to the curb?
is based upon what, exactly??????
She’s SOS?
Despite what you term a spanking, she’s still seems intellectually superior to him.
I dont see her a victim, and I don’t respect his intellect.
She will never be his victim.
I guess it’s a matter of perception, you see it one way, I see it another.
Obama does Atwater tricks, that’s it, he’s not smart, and he’s not a stategist, and looking at the big picture, he won’t survive.
Just.like.Cheney.
I guess we see it differently.
You see here is where we differ. I don’t think he’s smart. I don’t see any proof of it. Grades, please? I just think he’s a ruthless Chicago politician. He’s slime. He’s a thug. He’s the dumbest, nastiest, meanest creature to ever hold office.
I think he’s stupid, too.
She will always be superior to him because she is his intellectual superior.
I dont buy into the Rove BS, I see it as the garbage it is, junk.
But he holds the “magic pens.” That’s the difference.
All of you on the fence. Here it is: He’s either smart or he’s not. He’s either good or evil. I know that is really black and white. But you can’t have it
bothall ways just to feel better. Is he the guy who ran against her and villified her, the only successful Democratic president in recent memory and allowed them to be called racists with full evil intent or is he ….???? You don’t get more than one choice. I’m sorry. I didn’t make the rules ….He is smart and evil with amorality thrown in for good measure. I wouldn’t have him for even an acquaintance. What he decidedly lacks is any sense of honor.
Exactly Ferd. I wouldn’t have Fraudbama, Ayers, Wright, ANY of them as friends. WTF? Some of us were raised with values. Fraudbama and his band of azzholes are nothing but haters with no honor.
That One is nothing more than practiced mediocrity. That people think he’s so intelligent says more about our system of education than it does about him. Beware the power of stupid people in large groups.
Yes… and he announced, foreign policy was his strong point. That’s why he would not have to look for a VP with foreign policy creds to shore him up, remember?
I don’t give a flying fig if Hillary takes the job or not I am still a Black Man Not 4 Obama. This is ridiculous! If she was gonna settle for SOS she might as well have run as VP This world has gone MAD MAD MAD I thought Hillary would have been the best choice based on her principles and judgment I am not so sure anymore. What a long ass 4 years this will be.
Right. Why not just pull out in February and let him take his (spitting) victory laps?
In part, Obama’s relationship to not only the Chicago crooks, but to men like Nadhmi Auchi, (someone I would label as truly harmful to American interests, particularly in Iraq), is what destroys any sense of credibility he may strive for, Obama permanently stained by accepting their money.
(The above mentioned man, Auchi, acted against the better interests of the American people, even in a time of war, the defense department cancelling his Iraq cell phone contracts due to concerns about outstanding corruption, including arms smuggling, and money laundering).
And when a “writer” like Ignatius, as a reporter, fails to understand the import, or fails to even investigate this aspect of Obama, he destroys any credibility he might have hoped to harbor as a journalist.
If he doesn’t acknowledge Rezko, and Auchi, and Chicago crime in conjunction with Obama, he isn’t offering an informed analysis.
He’s a PR flack.
Oh the Irony!
LOL….Irony indeed!
People also posit that Bill and Hillary are so smart and have so much on Obama that he’ll be forced to go along with her.
The problem with that scenario is that if the Clinton’s were that powerful and had that much info why isn’t Hillary the President now instead of Obama?
If Hillary stays in the Senate, and she and Bill have that much dirt, they’d have more power outside of the administration than within it.
Already the MSM is focusing on Hillary alone and ignoring all of the previous Clinton appointees that Obama has already selected.
The MSM and so-called liberal bloggers are ignoring and have ignored Biden’s vote for the IWR. The vote, that according to Obama supporters, made Hillary untenable even for VP.
They’re ignoring Rahm Emanuel’s support for the same IWR.
If Hillary gets the SoS she can save the country through foreign policy and save us all? To me that is about as realistic as believing that Obama, as POTUS, will do the same.
But gee, none of that matters. The Obama brats can play on the Whitehouse lawn and show the world how cool we are electing the symbolic idol reincarnation of MLK and Kennedy combined!
Did you order your Obama coins and platter yet for the “historic” cluster @#$% election we just went through? 
Galt–you spelled “idol” wrong. In the case of That One (TM), the correct spelling is “idle”.
That works too except I don’t know how idle he will really be.
Hopefully he will be like that NAZIesque leader on that Star Trek episode who was drugged out behind a podium while someone else did a voice over in his stead. 
At least this way, the damage the Plastiine-(s)elect can do is minimized.
I remember more now: There was a human who got stranded or chose to go to this developing planet, and he used the model of NAZI Germany because he felt is was efficient. But then others took it further than he wanted and they had to drug out their Fuhrer so the populace would still follow him, yet they could control the government behind the scenes. And I did NOT google cheat!
That human was a captain or an admiral who wanted to be a benign dictator and ended up comatose (sounds all too familiar) when his 60s version of bots took over. Bones (I’m not a Doctor..oh, wait, I AM a Doctor) said he was drugged and shenanigans ensued. Excellent episode and kudos to you for not cheating.
And wow that episode is prophetic! LMAO!
I think it was a drug induced near comatose state? I Remember, “Bones” revived him?
“The problem with that scenario is that if the Clinton’s were that powerful and had that much info why isn’t Hillary the President now instead of Obama?”
I’ve considered that same question and the only possible answer I could come up with is that had Hillary destroyed Obama in the primaries it would have been tantamount to her killing Santa Claus in front of children on Xmas eve. His cultist followers are currently in a drug like addiction to the man and would blame Hillary for exposing him as a fraud rather than Obama for being one. Perhaps it would have made it difficult for her to win.
Many experts acknowledge that most people vote emotionally rather than logically. There’s a psychological aspect here. Much more advantageous to Hillary if the voters on their own realize what a fraud Obama is and direct their anger at him for fooling them rather than at her for exposing him.
From their Hillary can plan her next move on the chessboard….although I’m sure she already has.
maybe because the Democratic party decided that Obama was their “man”.
as to ignoring the appointment of persons with Clinton associations, the Press has not ignore those connections, they have been dutifully reported, only haven’t seen, for the most part, there being ironic.
Boy, people project on Obama, but they project on the Clintons, too.
It’s almost like a psychological rorschach blot, look at Hillary, or Obama, or even Bush, and tell me what you see…
Centrist, arrogant ignoramus, arrogant ignoramus. Which politician is associated with each adjective?
Sounds like with more revlations forthcoming today that congratulations are in order for the former First Lady, who is preparing to serve the nation she loves as US Secretary of State. Cheers to you, Hillary!!! You go girrrrl!
http://ontheseventhday.wordpress.com/
Sounds like with more revelations forthcoming today that congratulations are in order for the former First Lady, who is preparing to serve the nation she loves as US Secretary of State. Cheers to you, Hillary!!! You go girrrrl!
http://ontheseventhday.wordpress.com/
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I was very dismayed when I first heard that this appointment was being mooted, but maybe it makes some kind of sense for Hillary to take this role. If she really doesn’t plan to run for president again (and I can see why she wouldn’t want to) maybe SOS is a chance for her to make a real mark in the world.
She was already involved in the Northern Ireland peace negotiations behind the scenes during her husband’s administration, and she spent a lot of time travelling the world as First Lady. She’s also spent her career being diplomatic and disarming the most vicious and powerful opponents. This could be an ideal role for her if President of the USA isn’t coming her way in this lifetime and it’s good for the US too to be represented by someone of her stature, substance and integrity.
The only problem is Obama and his handlers of course. Hillary didn’t manage to beat them once, so it’s difficult to see how she could prevail against them in a scenario where he now has all the power.
Its beneath her. It would be like the winner of the Olympics accepting the silver medal when she knows she earned the gold. Its better for her to keep her pride and let him fall on his face. He is the affirmative action President Elect! The American people must experience the consequences of what happens when a more experienced person is passed over to satisfy misplaced guilt about slavery and racism. You know I also used to dream about having an AA President, a qualified one of course. No more! All I see are people that stabbed the Clintons in the back and helped to destroy two women, Hillary and Palin, just to make their dream of an Obama Presidency come true! No loyalty whatsoever.
He’s only 47. He could have waited but Hillary could not and AAs knew this and they still betrayed her. Why she would ever trust them again is beyond me!
Hillary you owe them nothing!
Poor, poor Richardson – stabbed the Clintons in the back for this…commerce secretary? But he kissed BO’s azz sooo good. Ah well that’s politics Judas.
As for Clinton’s appointment – Obama is a fraud and sheister extraordinaire, the prototypical snake-oil salesman of the late nineteenth-century. And lazy and sorry as hell, a total bamboozler, hoodwinker, etc., who works hard only at having other people do the heavy lifting so that he can step up and take claim.
Obama will need quality people around him to take up his pathetic slack; and most importantly, make Obama retain his exalted status.
But man, that will be a MESS if the Obama-fraud is not worshiped – if the sheister fails to be loved by the masses. An epic and dangerous collapse of narcissistic ego.
SPEAKING OF OBAMA FRAUD………………….
DID YOU KNOW THAT HONEST ABE LINCOLN WAS BI-RACIAL JUST AS OBAMA IS?
THIS HAS BEEN RESEARCHED AND WE HAVE HAD 5 PRESIDENTS IN OUR HISTORY THAT WERE BI-RACIAL JUST AS OBAMA IS.
WHY THE HELL IS EVERYONE MAKING SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT THE ONE WHO IS NOT HONEST THAT WILL BE PRESIDENT WHO LIKES TO SAY HE FOLLOWS IN HONEST ABE LINCOLN’S TRAIL.
PEOPLE KEEP SAYING HE IS THE FIRST BLACK MAN TO BE PRESIDENT. THIS IS NOT TRUE AT ALL.
OBAMA IS NOT BLACK HE IS BI-RACIAL AND NOT THE FIRST BI-RACIAL TO BE PRESIDENT.
MATTER OF FACT I BELEIVE HONEST ABE WAS THE ONE WHO SET THE SLAVES FREE.
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON OUT THERE?
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This is all about appeasing AAs. Like it or not, she needs their support and they’ve shaken down and hijacked the Democrat Party. I am so sick of this bullsh*t! As soon as the Rev. Wright controversy emerged, AAs should have been the ones to demand Obama exit the race! After everything the Clintons have done for their community, to falsely paint them as a racist, its unforgivable! So, how far does Hillary have to go to prove that she’s not a racist.
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