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		<title>By: A Citizen</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/joe-the-plumber-open-thread/#comment-1056133</link>
		<dc:creator>A Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ayers in his own words:
http://www.zombietime.com/prairie_fire/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayers in his own words:<br />
<a href="http://www.zombietime.com/prairie_fire/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zombietime.com/prairie_fire/</a></p>
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		<title>By: avwrobel</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/joe-the-plumber-open-thread/#comment-1055552</link>
		<dc:creator>avwrobel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trixta, beebop, Dawnelle.  During the 1965-1975 years we were losing THOUSANDS of our young men killed in what everyone knew was a completely corrupt enterprise in Vietnam.  The right wing posturing of &#039;We were fighting communists&#039; was a bunch of bull cover story and EVERYONE knew it!  We did not have to be there.  The Weather Underground were made up of very young (early 20&#039;s) mostly affluent Americans who could have easily cashed in and ignored it all.  But they couldn&#039;t because they loved their country too much to sit by and watch the system eat our young.  So they led a life of deprivation by choice and took great personal risks to try something ANYTHING to draw attention to the outrage of Vietnam. Get and watch the documentary about them. They split up when the war ended.   Also, Obama is a sleaze who I don&#039;t trust at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trixta, beebop, Dawnelle.  During the 1965-1975 years we were losing THOUSANDS of our young men killed in what everyone knew was a completely corrupt enterprise in Vietnam.  The right wing posturing of &#8216;We were fighting communists&#8217; was a bunch of bull cover story and EVERYONE knew it!  We did not have to be there.  The Weather Underground were made up of very young (early 20&#8217;s) mostly affluent Americans who could have easily cashed in and ignored it all.  But they couldn&#8217;t because they loved their country too much to sit by and watch the system eat our young.  So they led a life of deprivation by choice and took great personal risks to try something ANYTHING to draw attention to the outrage of Vietnam. Get and watch the documentary about them. They split up when the war ended.   Also, Obama is a sleaze who I don&#8217;t trust at all.</p>
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		<title>By: cc</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/joe-the-plumber-open-thread/#comment-1055440</link>
		<dc:creator>cc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep...no one is responsible for poor judgment, breaking the law, or violating standard operating procedure. 

&quot;ooops....sorry, what a bonehead I am!!&quot; that&#039;s the catch all get of jail card. mother effers.....

I&#039;m disgusted the msm just looks the other way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep&#8230;no one is responsible for poor judgment, breaking the law, or violating standard operating procedure. </p>
<p>&#8220;ooops&#8230;.sorry, what a bonehead I am!!&#8221; that&#8217;s the catch all get of jail card. mother effers&#8230;..</p>
<p>I&#8217;m disgusted the msm just looks the other way.</p>
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		<title>By: Idiocracy08</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/joe-the-plumber-open-thread/#comment-1055367</link>
		<dc:creator>Idiocracy08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 22:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, they have been melting since the ice age.  It&#039;s called climate change.  It isn&#039;t manmade global warming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, they have been melting since the ice age.  It&#8217;s called climate change.  It isn&#8217;t manmade global warming.</p>
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		<title>By: Idiocracy08</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/joe-the-plumber-open-thread/#comment-1055360</link>
		<dc:creator>Idiocracy08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 22:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know Bush got a briefing entitled Osama wants to strike inside the US.  Looks like Osama &quot;called ahead&quot;.

I guess Charles Manson is ok with you too?  He was against society.  They were around the same time yelling &quot;kill pigs&quot; too.  Let&#039;s let Charles out &amp; give him a teaching job.

Their tatics were terroristic.  Why can&#039;t you find someone like MLK to repsect during those times?  Who used words, not bombs.

They ruined property, they killed people, they intended to kill people at the military dance.  They didn&#039;t care about human casualties.  I guess a bomb in the women&#039;s restroom of the pentagon is no big deal to you.  Cause you KNOW they made sure no one would be hurt - with all their security clearances and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Bush got a briefing entitled Osama wants to strike inside the US.  Looks like Osama &#8220;called ahead&#8221;.</p>
<p>I guess Charles Manson is ok with you too?  He was against society.  They were around the same time yelling &#8220;kill pigs&#8221; too.  Let&#8217;s let Charles out &amp; give him a teaching job.</p>
<p>Their tatics were terroristic.  Why can&#8217;t you find someone like MLK to repsect during those times?  Who used words, not bombs.</p>
<p>They ruined property, they killed people, they intended to kill people at the military dance.  They didn&#8217;t care about human casualties.  I guess a bomb in the women&#8217;s restroom of the pentagon is no big deal to you.  Cause you KNOW they made sure no one would be hurt &#8211; with all their security clearances and all.</p>
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		<title>By: trixta</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/joe-the-plumber-open-thread/#comment-1055199</link>
		<dc:creator>trixta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I guess terrorism is okay as long as you call to warn people first.

This pretzel &quot;logic&quot; is really too much!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I guess terrorism is okay as long as you call to warn people first.</p>
<p>This pretzel &#8220;logic&#8221; is really too much!</strong></p>
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		<title>By: elliewyatt</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/joe-the-plumber-open-thread/#comment-1055006</link>
		<dc:creator>elliewyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Undercover agent Larry Grathwohl, who had infiltrated and joined the Weather Underground, described their post-revolution governing plans for the United States in this video taken from the 1982 documentary “No Place to Hide.” The Weather Underground openly discussed exterminating 25 million Americans who refused to be “re-educated” into communism. 

Here’s a transcript of his interview:&lt;/em&gt; 

I bought up the subject of what’s going to happen after we take over the government. We, we become responsible, then, for administrating, you know, 250 million people. 

And there was no answers. No one had given any thought to economics; how are you going to clothe and feed these people. 

The only thing that I could get, was that &lt;strong&gt;they expected that the Cubans and the North Vietnamese and Chinese and the Russians would all want to occupy different portions of the United States.&lt;/strong&gt; 

They also believed that their immediate responsibility would be to protect against what they called the counter-revolution. And they felt that this counter-revolution could best be guarded against by creating and establishing re-education centers in the southwest, where we would take all the people who needed to be re-educated into the new way of thinking and teach them… how things were going to be. 

I asked, well, what’s going to happen to those people that we can’t re-educate; that are die-hard capitalists. And the reply was that they’d have to be eliminated. And when I pursued this further, &lt;strong&gt;they estimated that they would have to eliminate 25 million people&lt;/strong&gt; in these re-education centers. &lt;strong&gt;And when I say eliminate, I mean kill. 25 million people.&lt;/strong&gt; 

I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees from Columbia and other well known educational centers, and hear them &lt;strong&gt;figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people. 

And they were dead serious.” &lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;em&gt;– Larry Grathwohl, former member of the Weather Underground&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>Undercover agent Larry Grathwohl, who had infiltrated and joined the Weather Underground, described their post-revolution governing plans for the United States in this video taken from the 1982 documentary “No Place to Hide.” The Weather Underground openly discussed exterminating 25 million Americans who refused to be “re-educated” into communism. </p>
<p>Here’s a transcript of his interview:</em> </p>
<p>I bought up the subject of what’s going to happen after we take over the government. We, we become responsible, then, for administrating, you know, 250 million people. </p>
<p>And there was no answers. No one had given any thought to economics; how are you going to clothe and feed these people. </p>
<p>The only thing that I could get, was that <strong>they expected that the Cubans and the North Vietnamese and Chinese and the Russians would all want to occupy different portions of the United States.</strong> </p>
<p>They also believed that their immediate responsibility would be to protect against what they called the counter-revolution. And they felt that this counter-revolution could best be guarded against by creating and establishing re-education centers in the southwest, where we would take all the people who needed to be re-educated into the new way of thinking and teach them… how things were going to be. </p>
<p>I asked, well, what’s going to happen to those people that we can’t re-educate; that are die-hard capitalists. And the reply was that they’d have to be eliminated. And when I pursued this further, <strong>they estimated that they would have to eliminate 25 million people</strong> in these re-education centers. <strong>And when I say eliminate, I mean kill. 25 million people.</strong> </p>
<p>I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees from Columbia and other well known educational centers, and hear them <strong>figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people. </p>
<p>And they were dead serious.” </strong></p>
<p><em>– Larry Grathwohl, former member of the Weather Underground</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Video:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ</a></p>
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		<title>By: LandOLincoln</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/joe-the-plumber-open-thread/#comment-1054999</link>
		<dc:creator>LandOLincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elliewyatt, I hadn&#039;t seen this before but it doesn&#039;t surprise me.

I had a lot of respect for SDS back in the day and would have joined the local chapter in 1965 if it hadn&#039;t been headed by a camo-wearing, revolution-spouting Che Guevara wannabe with &#039;way more testosterone than brains, and no political smarts whatsoever. (I&#039;m sure he later went with the WU when they broke from, and destroyed, SDS.)

By 1970 I was living and working in NYC, and encountered some Weathermen at the big demonstration in D.C. the weekend after Kent State. Of course they were doing their best to give Tricky an excuse to unleash the troops&#039;n&#039;tanks he had stashed all over the city, but wiser and cooler heads prevailed--we were continually reminded that anyone trying to stir up serious trouble was just as liable to be FBI as WU, or both.

A month later, when Diana Oughten &lt;em&gt;et. al.&lt;/em&gt; blew themselves up in a townhouse not far from my West Village digs, all I remember thinking was &quot;serves &#039;em right.&quot;

(Mind you, I did kinda like Bernardine Dorhn--she was very beautiful and not afraid to flaunt it, which was a refreshing change from the Puritanical plainness that was &lt;em&gt;de rigeur&lt;/em&gt; with most of the hard Left-- until she shot off her mouth about the Manson murders and how &quot;cool&quot; the killers were.)

Point being, anyone who claims to have any respect or sympathy for the WU is a mushheaded, uninformed, sentimental jackass. The typical &quot;liberal&quot; Obot, in other words.

And BTW I&#039;ve heartily disliked the very sanctimonious, holier-than-thou Amy Goodman (Democracy Now) for years now, but never more than a week or two ago, when she interviewed Dohrn and Ayers and let them get by with lie after lie about their activities and intentions as Weathermen, their association with Obama, what Billy &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; meant when he said he didn&#039;t think he&#039;d done enough bombing and hinted that he might be open to doing more (interview published in the NYT 9/ll/01).

Finally, getting back to the point of Ellie&#039;s post, it does not surprise me in the least that the WU could seriously contemplate exterminating 25 million Americans. That should surprise no one who remembers Pol Pot in Cambodia--or was it Mao in China? or both??--executing anyone who WORE GLASSES because that person was, &lt;em&gt;ipso facto&lt;/em&gt;, an elite intellectual and therefore an enemy of the people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elliewyatt, I hadn&#8217;t seen this before but it doesn&#8217;t surprise me.</p>
<p>I had a lot of respect for SDS back in the day and would have joined the local chapter in 1965 if it hadn&#8217;t been headed by a camo-wearing, revolution-spouting Che Guevara wannabe with &#8216;way more testosterone than brains, and no political smarts whatsoever. (I&#8217;m sure he later went with the WU when they broke from, and destroyed, SDS.)</p>
<p>By 1970 I was living and working in NYC, and encountered some Weathermen at the big demonstration in D.C. the weekend after Kent State. Of course they were doing their best to give Tricky an excuse to unleash the troops&#8217;n'tanks he had stashed all over the city, but wiser and cooler heads prevailed&#8211;we were continually reminded that anyone trying to stir up serious trouble was just as liable to be FBI as WU, or both.</p>
<p>A month later, when Diana Oughten <em>et. al.</em> blew themselves up in a townhouse not far from my West Village digs, all I remember thinking was &#8220;serves &#8216;em right.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Mind you, I did kinda like Bernardine Dorhn&#8211;she was very beautiful and not afraid to flaunt it, which was a refreshing change from the Puritanical plainness that was <em>de rigeur</em> with most of the hard Left&#8211; until she shot off her mouth about the Manson murders and how &#8220;cool&#8221; the killers were.)</p>
<p>Point being, anyone who claims to have any respect or sympathy for the WU is a mushheaded, uninformed, sentimental jackass. The typical &#8220;liberal&#8221; Obot, in other words.</p>
<p>And BTW I&#8217;ve heartily disliked the very sanctimonious, holier-than-thou Amy Goodman (Democracy Now) for years now, but never more than a week or two ago, when she interviewed Dohrn and Ayers and let them get by with lie after lie about their activities and intentions as Weathermen, their association with Obama, what Billy <em>really</em> meant when he said he didn&#8217;t think he&#8217;d done enough bombing and hinted that he might be open to doing more (interview published in the NYT 9/ll/01).</p>
<p>Finally, getting back to the point of Ellie&#8217;s post, it does not surprise me in the least that the WU could seriously contemplate exterminating 25 million Americans. That should surprise no one who remembers Pol Pot in Cambodia&#8211;or was it Mao in China? or both??&#8211;executing anyone who WORE GLASSES because that person was, <em>ipso facto</em>, an elite intellectual and therefore an enemy of the people.</p>
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		<title>By: elliewyatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>elliewyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the video of Larry Grathwohl (it has been removed from the location of many links, but is still here).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the video of Larry Grathwohl (it has been removed from the location of many links, but is still here).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maria3</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/joe-the-plumber-open-thread/#comment-1054956</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have You Heard This? Kenyan Ambassador Says Obama’s Birthplace in KENYA is “An Attraction…Already Well-Known” (WRIF Radio, Detroit)


http://my.wrif.com/mim/?cat=9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have You Heard This? Kenyan Ambassador Says Obama’s Birthplace in KENYA is “An Attraction…Already Well-Known” (WRIF Radio, Detroit)</p>
<p><a href="http://my.wrif.com/mim/?cat=9" rel="nofollow">http://my.wrif.com/mim/?cat=9</a></p>
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		<title>By: TexasMirth</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/joe-the-plumber-open-thread/#comment-1054829</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasMirth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eeliewyatt - thanks for posting that interview from Larry Grathwohl. I had not seen that before and it only deepens my contempt for those in the media who are attempting to show a kinder, gentler portrait of Ayers &amp; Dohrn. The details of their past are not addressed in these TV interviews.  People need to know who these people really are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eeliewyatt &#8211; thanks for posting that interview from Larry Grathwohl. I had not seen that before and it only deepens my contempt for those in the media who are attempting to show a kinder, gentler portrait of Ayers &amp; Dohrn. The details of their past are not addressed in these TV interviews.  People need to know who these people really are.</p>
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		<title>By: elliewyatt</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/joe-the-plumber-open-thread/#comment-1054795</link>
		<dc:creator>elliewyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>avwrobel said~ &quot;I actually respect what the Weather Underground tried to do during the corrupt Johnson-Nixon years.&quot;

I cannot imagine why you would &quot;respect&quot; planning the murder of 25 million Americans.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Undercover agent Larry Grathwohl, who had infiltrated and joined the Weather Underground, described their post-revolution governing plans for the United States in this video taken from the 1982 documentary &quot;No Place to Hide.&quot; &lt;strong&gt;The Weather Underground openly discussed exterminating 25 million Americans&lt;/strong&gt; who refused to be &quot;re-educated&quot; into communism. 

Here&#039;s a transcript of his interview: 

I bought up the subject of what&#039;s going to happen after we take over the government. We, we become responsible, then, for administrating, you know, 250 million people. 

And there was no answers. No one had given any thought to economics; how are you going to clothe and feed these people. 

The only thing that I could get, was that &lt;strong&gt;they expected that the Cubans and the North Vietnamese and Chinese and the Russians would all want to occupy different portions of the United States&lt;/strong&gt;. 

They also believed that their immediate responsibility would be to protect against what they called the counter-revolution. And they felt that this counter-revolution could best be guarded against by creating and establishing re-education centers in the southwest, where we would take all the people who needed to be re-educated into the new way of thinking and teach them... how things were going to be. 

I asked, well, what&#039;s going to happen to those people that we can&#039;t re-educate; that are die-hard capitalists. And the reply was that they&#039;d have to be eliminated. And when I pursued this further, &lt;strong&gt;they estimated that they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these re-education centers. And when I say eliminate, I mean kill. 25 million people.&lt;/strong&gt; 

I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees from Columbia and other well known educational centers, and hear them &lt;strong&gt;figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people. 

And they were dead serious.&quot; &lt;/strong&gt;

-- Larry Grathwohl, former member of the Weather Underground&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>avwrobel said~ &#8220;I actually respect what the Weather Underground tried to do during the corrupt Johnson-Nixon years.&#8221;</p>
<p>I cannot imagine why you would &#8220;respect&#8221; planning the murder of 25 million Americans.</p>
<blockquote><p>Undercover agent Larry Grathwohl, who had infiltrated and joined the Weather Underground, described their post-revolution governing plans for the United States in this video taken from the 1982 documentary &#8220;No Place to Hide.&#8221; <strong>The Weather Underground openly discussed exterminating 25 million Americans</strong> who refused to be &#8220;re-educated&#8221; into communism. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a transcript of his interview: </p>
<p>I bought up the subject of what&#8217;s going to happen after we take over the government. We, we become responsible, then, for administrating, you know, 250 million people. </p>
<p>And there was no answers. No one had given any thought to economics; how are you going to clothe and feed these people. </p>
<p>The only thing that I could get, was that <strong>they expected that the Cubans and the North Vietnamese and Chinese and the Russians would all want to occupy different portions of the United States</strong>. </p>
<p>They also believed that their immediate responsibility would be to protect against what they called the counter-revolution. And they felt that this counter-revolution could best be guarded against by creating and establishing re-education centers in the southwest, where we would take all the people who needed to be re-educated into the new way of thinking and teach them&#8230; how things were going to be. </p>
<p>I asked, well, what&#8217;s going to happen to those people that we can&#8217;t re-educate; that are die-hard capitalists. And the reply was that they&#8217;d have to be eliminated. And when I pursued this further, <strong>they estimated that they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these re-education centers. And when I say eliminate, I mean kill. 25 million people.</strong> </p>
<p>I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees from Columbia and other well known educational centers, and hear them <strong>figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people. </p>
<p>And they were dead serious.&#8221; </strong></p>
<p>&#8211; Larry Grathwohl, former member of the Weather Underground</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: TexasMirth</title>
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		<dc:creator>TexasMirth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>avwrobel--Maybe you don&#039;t know some of the specifics from Ayers &amp; Dohrn. Here are a few that MIGHT change your mind:
In a speech given to SDS members, Bernadine Dohrn said: “Dig it! Manson killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim&#039;s stomach.”  
Or how about when Dohrn penned the following lyrics when a Chicago Democratic official, Richard Elrod, became paralyzed? Elrod&#039;s paralysis resulted from an encounter with the Weathermen. (Dohrn&#039;s song is to be sung to the tune of Bob Dylan’s “Lay Lady Lay”)

Lay, Elrod, lay,
Lay in the street for a while
Stay, Elrod, stay
Stay in your bed for a while
You thought you could stop the Weatherman
But up-front people put you on your can,
Stay, Elrod, stay
Stay in your iron lung,
Play, Elrod, play
Play with your toes for a while... 

Or Bill Ayers&#039; famous words: &quot;Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents. That&#039;s where it is really at.&quot;  Does that sound like a pacifist or an  anti-war statement?
 Do you still &lt;em&gt;&quot;actually respect what the Weather Underground tried to do during the corrupt Johnson-Nixon years?&quot;&lt;/em&gt; I think Ayers &amp; Dohrn used  the war as an excuse to commit acts of rage. If there hadn&#039;t been a war, they&#039;d probably have protested corporate greed, capitalism in general, anything they could latch on to, illustrating the anarchist Mikhail Bakunin&#039;s belief that- &quot;The passion for destruction is also a creative passion.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>avwrobel&#8211;Maybe you don&#8217;t know some of the specifics from Ayers &amp; Dohrn. Here are a few that MIGHT change your mind:<br />
In a speech given to SDS members, Bernadine Dohrn said: “Dig it! Manson killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim&#8217;s stomach.”<br />
Or how about when Dohrn penned the following lyrics when a Chicago Democratic official, Richard Elrod, became paralyzed? Elrod&#8217;s paralysis resulted from an encounter with the Weathermen. (Dohrn&#8217;s song is to be sung to the tune of Bob Dylan’s “Lay Lady Lay”)</p>
<p>Lay, Elrod, lay,<br />
Lay in the street for a while<br />
Stay, Elrod, stay<br />
Stay in your bed for a while<br />
You thought you could stop the Weatherman<br />
But up-front people put you on your can,<br />
Stay, Elrod, stay<br />
Stay in your iron lung,<br />
Play, Elrod, play<br />
Play with your toes for a while&#8230; </p>
<p>Or Bill Ayers&#8217; famous words: &#8220;Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents. That&#8217;s where it is really at.&#8221;  Does that sound like a pacifist or an  anti-war statement?<br />
 Do you still <em>&#8220;actually respect what the Weather Underground tried to do during the corrupt Johnson-Nixon years?&#8221;</em> I think Ayers &amp; Dohrn used  the war as an excuse to commit acts of rage. If there hadn&#8217;t been a war, they&#8217;d probably have protested corporate greed, capitalism in general, anything they could latch on to, illustrating the anarchist Mikhail Bakunin&#8217;s belief that- &#8220;The passion for destruction is also a creative passion.”</p>
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		<title>By: beebop</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/joe-the-plumber-open-thread/#comment-1054611</link>
		<dc:creator>beebop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fitz is going to get a &lt;strong&gt;GREAT&lt;/strong&gt; job.  One that puts him far away from seeking justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fitz is going to get a <strong>GREAT</strong> job.  One that puts him far away from seeking justice.</p>
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		<title>By: beebop</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/joe-the-plumber-open-thread/#comment-1054604</link>
		<dc:creator>beebop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got further than me ... I stopped at respect for the Weather Underground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got further than me &#8230; I stopped at respect for the Weather Underground.</p>
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