Comments on: Open Thread * Bob Woodward’s Vainglorious Indictment of the Clintons http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/open-thread-bob-woodwards-vainglorious-indictment-of-the-clintons/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:32:38 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: fif http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/open-thread-bob-woodwards-vainglorious-indictment-of-the-clintons/#comment-1056598 fif Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:05:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6837#comment-1056598 Excellent ideas--I hope you've forwarded them to HRC's office. Blumenthal provides the POV you never hear in the MSM, ensconced as they all are with the D.C. establishment, spouting the same rubbish about the Clintons Last night I was at an event and a NY financier blurted out: "I don't understand this Clinton as SOS thing. She's too polarizing, and I mean, what has she done--traveled with her husband?" This election cycle has clearly shown me how woefully mis/uninformed people are, and how arrogant they are about their ignorant opinions. This guy thinks he's being so insightful, and all he is doing is repeated hackneyed media talking points. Does anyone read independently anymore (besides people here)? Excellent ideas–I hope you’ve forwarded them to HRC’s office.

Blumenthal provides the POV you never hear in the MSM, ensconced as they all are with the D.C. establishment, spouting the same rubbish about the Clintons

Last night I was at an event and a NY financier blurted out: “I don’t understand this Clinton as SOS thing. She’s too polarizing, and I mean, what has she done–traveled with her husband?”

This election cycle has clearly shown me how woefully mis/uninformed people are, and how arrogant they are about their ignorant opinions. This guy thinks he’s being so insightful, and all he is doing is repeated hackneyed media talking points. Does anyone read independently anymore (besides people here)?

]]> By: hootnannie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/open-thread-bob-woodwards-vainglorious-indictment-of-the-clintons/#comment-1056311 hootnannie Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:55:40 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6837#comment-1056311 Imagine that Obama could end up being the most strident truth-teller about Hillary's upcoming success as SoS! But to think that he will put her in as just as a scapegoat presupposes that he believes he will fail. Obama? Please. If anyone except a Clintonphobe like Matthews or Olbermann claims everything that doesn't pan out perfectly is her fault, it will just appear that Obama made a bad choice and is as foolish or brazenly politically motivated as his critics claim. I'm going to love it. Obama will be in the position of telling everyone how wonderful his SoS is. And the racists who trashed HER as a racist will have to eat crow or turn on their messiah! I guess Obama is going to give his worshippers a break by announcing her over the holidays, when Chris and Keith can be on vacation and not have to comment on the choice that very night. Wonderful what dopey excuses these two will come up with for The One's "mistake"? Imagine that Obama could end up being the most strident truth-teller about Hillary’s upcoming success as SoS!
But to think that he will put her in as just as a scapegoat presupposes that he believes he will fail. Obama? Please. If anyone except a Clintonphobe like Matthews or Olbermann claims everything that doesn’t pan out perfectly is her fault, it will just appear that Obama made a bad choice and is as foolish or brazenly politically motivated as his critics claim.
I’m going to love it. Obama will be in the position of telling everyone how wonderful his SoS is. And the racists who trashed HER as a racist will have to eat crow or turn on their messiah! I guess Obama is going to give his worshippers a break by announcing her over the holidays, when Chris and Keith can be on vacation and not have to comment on the choice that very night. Wonderful what dopey excuses these two will come up with for The One’s “mistake”?

]]> By: Linda C. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/open-thread-bob-woodwards-vainglorious-indictment-of-the-clintons/#comment-1055754 Linda C. Sun, 23 Nov 2008 02:33:09 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6837#comment-1055754 If Hillary didn't work to outshine the other asshats that were supporting Obama..who would have gotten the most important appointments? Did you really want Kerry or Richardson as SoS? She campaigned for him and got her people in as well as herself. We are in a boatload of a mess. More so than we can ever imagine. They are talking about a "deflationary spiral" now. That would be another word for a Great Depression. When prices fall, wages fall and unemployment goes up. However, the bills you owe are still there. We have always known about Obama. He is a typical corrupt politician with an over blown ego and ambition to match. OK fine, that is who we have now. We do not have the luxury of wishing him ill. Unless of course you want to start singing "Brother Can You Spare a Dime". However, we still need to keep his feet to the fire as well as the DNC . Senator Clinton worked her butt off to keep the party together. If the economy tanked now instead of September, the election may have ended up different. If Hillary didn’t work to outshine the other asshats that were supporting Obama..who would have gotten the most important appointments? Did you really want Kerry or Richardson as SoS?

She campaigned for him and got her people in as well as herself.

We are in a boatload of a mess. More so than we can ever imagine. They are talking about a “deflationary spiral” now. That would be another word for a Great Depression. When prices fall, wages fall and unemployment goes up. However, the bills you owe are still there.

We have always known about Obama. He is a typical corrupt politician with an over blown ego and ambition to match. OK fine, that is who we have now. We do not have the luxury of wishing him ill. Unless of course you want to start singing “Brother Can You Spare a Dime”.

However, we still need to keep his feet to the fire as well as the DNC . Senator Clinton worked her butt off to keep the party together. If the economy tanked now instead of September, the election may have ended up different.

]]> By: Open Thread * Bob Woodward’s Vainglorious Indictment of the … at Hillary Clinton On Best Political Blogs http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/open-thread-bob-woodwards-vainglorious-indictment-of-the-clintons/#comment-1055724 Open Thread * Bob Woodward’s Vainglorious Indictment of the … at Hillary Clinton On Best Political Blogs Sun, 23 Nov 2008 02:09:59 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6837#comment-1055724 [...] Open Thread * Bob Woodward’s Vainglorious Indictment of the … She needs to have a large staff capable of gathering intelligence in the State Department and she needs to install hard-core, pro-Israel Clinton loyalists throughout the administration, especially in the Vice President’s Office, … [...] [...] Open Thread * Bob Woodward’s Vainglorious Indictment of the … She needs to have a large staff capable of gathering intelligence in the State Department and she needs to install hard-core, pro-Israel Clinton loyalists throughout the administration, especially in the Vice President’s Office, … [...]

]]> By: AOK http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/open-thread-bob-woodwards-vainglorious-indictment-of-the-clintons/#comment-1055572 AOK Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:33:30 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6837#comment-1055572 Bill Clinton came from Arkansas, one of the most rural states in the union. How did he gain the favor of the media until the Lewinsky scandal hit? They loved Dubya until he lied about WMDs in Iraq and his bumbling response to Katrina. Hell, they loved McCain until he picked Palin. She went from a confident go getter at the RNC convention to a joke in the span of one week. Bill Clinton came from Arkansas, one of the most rural states in the union. How did he gain the favor of the media until the Lewinsky scandal hit? They loved Dubya until he lied about WMDs in Iraq and his bumbling response to Katrina. Hell, they loved McCain until he picked Palin. She went from a confident go getter at the RNC convention to a joke in the span of one week.

]]> By: Trudy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/open-thread-bob-woodwards-vainglorious-indictment-of-the-clintons/#comment-1055537 Trudy Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:15:30 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6837#comment-1055537 I agree with you 100%. I agree with you 100%.

]]> By: LandOLincoln http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/open-thread-bob-woodwards-vainglorious-indictment-of-the-clintons/#comment-1055535 LandOLincoln Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:13:42 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6837#comment-1055535 EWard said: "This is not going to be another Clinton Administration. BO didn’t cheat and accept hundreds of millions of dollars in illegal donations to give power back to the Clintons." Of course he didn't, but I don't think he's got much choice. I don't know what Big Stick the Big Dawg used on BO back at their meeting back in September, but it sure seems to have put the fear into that arrogant, corrupt SOB. EWard said:

“This is not going to be another Clinton Administration. BO didn’t cheat and accept hundreds of millions of dollars in illegal donations to give power back to the Clintons.”

Of course he didn’t, but I don’t think he’s got much choice. I don’t know what Big Stick the Big Dawg used on BO back at their meeting back in September, but it sure seems to have put the fear into that arrogant, corrupt SOB.

]]> By: LandOLincoln http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/open-thread-bob-woodwards-vainglorious-indictment-of-the-clintons/#comment-1055511 LandOLincoln Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:56:39 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6837#comment-1055511 Exactly, Galt, except "<strong>shadow</strong> Clinton presidency <strong>redux</strong> is--you know--reduxdant. ;-) I am sooo loving this situation, and every time BO announces another Clintonista appointment I do a little dance, make a little..well, never mind that part of the song. Exactly, Galt, except “shadow Clinton presidency redux is–you know–reduxdant. ;-)

I am sooo loving this situation, and every time BO announces another Clintonista appointment I do a little dance, make a little..well, never mind that part of the song.

]]> By: Galt's Pizza Parlor, nautical division http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/open-thread-bob-woodwards-vainglorious-indictment-of-the-clintons/#comment-1055506 Galt's Pizza Parlor, nautical division Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:53:51 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6837#comment-1055506 Watch his actions, the ones he can't hide. He is basically setting up the shadow Clinton presidency redux. We can survive that. Watch his actions, the ones he can’t hide. He is basically setting up the shadow Clinton presidency redux. We can survive that.

]]> By: oowawa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/open-thread-bob-woodwards-vainglorious-indictment-of-the-clintons/#comment-1055497 oowawa Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:47:14 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6837#comment-1055497 <blockquote>The key question is what are the core values of BO? No one knows except for his inner circle.</blockquote> I have a very strong feeling that his "inner circle" knows very little about what O's core values might be. What if everybody has been projecting their own wishes, their own "hopes" regarding core values into a void? What if there is no "there" "there"?

The key question is what are the core values of BO? No one knows except for his inner circle.

I have a very strong feeling that his “inner circle” knows very little about what O’s core values might be. What if everybody has been projecting their own wishes, their own “hopes” regarding core values into a void? What if there is no “there” “there”?

]]> By: snosandy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/open-thread-bob-woodwards-vainglorious-indictment-of-the-clintons/#comment-1055486 snosandy Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:40:47 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6837#comment-1055486 I really like Joe Wilson. Do you remember how vile the HuffPo group were towards him in the primaries because he supported Hillary? It was disgusting, and those are the people who chose the next leader of our country. I really like Joe Wilson. Do you remember how vile the HuffPo group were towards him in the primaries because he supported Hillary? It was disgusting, and those are the people who chose the next leader of our country.

]]> By: Galt's Pizza Parlor, nautical division http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/open-thread-bob-woodwards-vainglorious-indictment-of-the-clintons/#comment-1055485 Galt's Pizza Parlor, nautical division Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:39:21 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6837#comment-1055485 Tweety wanted to play kingmaker. He's got his fucking king. Tweety is yet another victim of their own lust for something at all costs. A toast to Tweety's karma, may it bite him in the ass as hard as his complicity in defrauding the nation did. We have every right to enjoy watching universal justice handed out. I am. Cheers! Tweety wanted to play kingmaker. He’s got his fucking king. Tweety is yet another victim of their own lust for something at all costs. A toast to Tweety’s karma, may it bite him in the ass as hard as his complicity in defrauding the nation did. We have every right to enjoy watching universal justice handed out. I am. Cheers!

]]> By: LandOLincoln http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/open-thread-bob-woodwards-vainglorious-indictment-of-the-clintons/#comment-1055480 LandOLincoln Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:37:29 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6837#comment-1055480 When did he say that? Do you have a link? When did he say that? Do you have a link?

]]> By: LandOLincoln http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/open-thread-bob-woodwards-vainglorious-indictment-of-the-clintons/#comment-1055477 LandOLincoln Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:35:39 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6837#comment-1055477 Moss, we certainly did, and I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks Hillary is taking this job out of desperation, or ego, or just because she loves to see her name in the papers, is effing delusional. As I've said before--and IIRC you've agreed with me--I believe the Democratic wing of the Democratic party is quietly moving to retake the party and the country from the corrupt and childish BO and his minions, and every Clintonista Obama appoints to his cabinet, I take as further support for my thesis. & was I the only who ROFLMAO when the Penny Pritzker trial balloon went down in flames, seemingly within minutes of launch? Moss, we certainly did, and I’m sorry, but anyone who thinks Hillary is taking this job out of desperation, or ego, or just because she loves to see her name in the papers, is effing delusional.

As I’ve said before–and IIRC you’ve agreed with me–I believe the Democratic wing of the Democratic party is quietly moving to retake the party and the country from the corrupt and childish BO and his minions, and every Clintonista Obama appoints to his cabinet, I take as further support for my thesis.

& was I the only who ROFLMAO when the Penny Pritzker trial balloon went down in flames, seemingly within minutes of launch?

]]> By: oowawa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/22/open-thread-bob-woodwards-vainglorious-indictment-of-the-clintons/#comment-1055449 oowawa Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:24:22 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6837#comment-1055449 Unfortunately, I'm afraid we're all in the same boat, all in the same Mystery Ship. The mystery will be--who's really steering this thing? Tweety is having fits cuz he thinks Hillary is going to somehow contrive to take over the helm, with tall Captain Bill standing behind her, his arms around her on the wheel as they steer together (good romance novel cover, no?). Tweety's scared to death that the Chosen One will be prevented from directing course to the Enchanted Land, of which only He and He alone knows the location. Oh well--I'm rambling. Sure I'll have a beer--I wish these computers could deliver. Unfortunately, I’m afraid we’re all in the same boat, all in the same Mystery Ship. The mystery will be–who’s really steering this thing? Tweety is having fits cuz he thinks Hillary is going to somehow contrive to take over the helm, with tall Captain Bill standing behind her, his arms around her on the wheel as they steer together (good romance novel cover, no?). Tweety’s scared to death that the Chosen One will be prevented from directing course to the Enchanted Land, of which only He and He alone knows the location. Oh well–I’m rambling. Sure I’ll have a beer–I wish these computers could deliver.

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