Barack’s Legal Backlash [Updated Twice]
By Larry Johnson on November 23, 2008 at 11:00 PM in Current Affairs
Jane Mayer’s book, The Dark Side: The Inside Story of How The War on Terror Turned into a War on American Ideals [UPDATE 11/23/08: SCREENSHOTS BELOW OF THREE FULL PAGES FROM Ms. MAYER'S BOOK], is must reading for the Obama team and anyone else who wants to understand the legal mayhem created by George W. Bush and company since 9-11. When Barack Obama’s team takes over on 20 January they are going to be dealing with a serious case of legal shock. What do I mean? The Bush Administration has been the most anti-lawyer administration in the history of the United States. Look at the folks who held the top slots, particularly in the first term, who were not lawyers and had no formal legal training:
George Bush
Dick Cheney
George Tenet
Colin Powell
Don Rumsfeld
Paul Wolfowitz
Condi Rice
So what? The Bush Administration has pursued a variety of policies that cause most legal scholars to recoil in horror. There are some highly classified, compartmented programs instituted by the Bush Administration that, when examined by lawyers with more mainstream sensibilities, will likely be terminated. It is no surprise that an Administration so openly hostile to the law would adopt policies and engage in practices that have skirted the law and, in some cases, broken the law. It is quite clear that President Bush and Vice President Cheney treated international law and international treaties as some sort of meaningless bureaucratic burden. And they surrounded themselves with lawyers who enabled their behavior with farfetched, extreme interpretations of what was and was not legal.
Look at the list of folks they relied on for legal judgments. David Addington, Alberto Gonzales, John Yoo, and Doug Feith. Feith, described by General Tommy Franks, as not terribly bright (he used more colorful language to disparage Feith) played a critical role in persuading the non-lawyers that there was no legal obstacle to using torture and violating the Geneva Conventions. Vanity Fair put out an excellent article on this in May:
The abuse, rising to the level of torture, of those captured and detained in the war on terror is a defining feature of the presidency of George W. Bush. Its military beginnings, however, lie not in Abu Ghraib, as is commonly thought, or in the “rendition” of prisoners to other countries for questioning, but in the treatment of the very first prisoners at Guantánamo. Starting in late 2002 a detainee bearing the number 063 was tortured over a period of more than seven weeks. In his story lies the answer to a crucial question: How was the decision made to let the U.S. military start using coercive interrogations at Guantánamo?
The Bush administration has always taken refuge behind a “trickle up” explanation: that is, the decision was generated by military commanders and interrogators on the ground. This explanation is false. The origins lie in actions taken at the very highest levels of the administration—by some of the most senior personal advisers to the president, the vice president, and the secretary of defense. At the heart of the matter stand several political appointees—lawyers—who, it can be argued, broke their ethical codes of conduct and took themselves into a zone of international criminality, where formal investigation is now a very real option. This is the story of how the torture at Guantánamo began, and how it spread.
Conservatives traditionally rail against liberals for supporting “judicial” activism. Ironically, it is conservative lawyers in the Bush Administration who have themselves engaged in a vile form of judicial activism. They have encourage and justified policies and practices that, once fully exposed to the light of day, will be a permanent stain on the honor and integrity of this country. This is not the first time that politicians have ignored the Constitution and engaged in illegal activities. Democratic icon Earl Warren helped imprison in concentration camps American citizens of Japanese heritage.
I am hoping that Barack Obama and his team will recoil in horror at the attack on international and constitutional law carried out by the Bush team as they finally get a look at the “books.” Issues such as FISA, habeus corpus, and Guantanamo are the tip of a very large and dirty legal iceberg. Don’t be surprised when the media turns on Obama and circulates the story that he is jeopardizing our nation’s security by insisting that we abide by the rule of law. I frankly do not know if Obama has the courage to take this issue on. What do you think?
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By Sarah Palin (Release date: November 17. 2009)
Obama broke campaign donation laws by accepting illegal contributions. Obama broke voting laws by supporting ACORN in its voter registration fraud. Obama broke caucus laws with the caucus “irregularities”. Obama voted for FISA. Obama refuses to prove his eligibility to hold the office of President by showing his birth certificate; he tried to pass off a forged copy as the real thing.
Why would anyone think that Obama would insist his administration abide by any rule of law?
You can put lipstick on a pig, but……
1. False
2. False
3. Sad bbbut true
4. Laughable
1. True- the illegal money is just the begining.
funds from overseas is against the law.
2. Not Only does Obama support Acorn, he paid over 800k for their work.
3. FISA- Obama lied. On record
4. An honest man would have nothing to hide.
Obama’s was also adopted by a foreigner in a foreign country and his legal name is Barry Soetoro, as registered as an Indonesian citizen, where as Indonesia does NOT allow dual citizenship.
Obama’s adoption is a bigger disqualification as it also leads to what passport did he use to travel to Pakistan with in the 80’s.
Pakistan was closed to US travelers.
Obama has already admitted to having dual citizenship, from his own web-site:
From Obama own website:
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
Question?
How could it expire, if he never had it?
The forged short form that Obama released, does not have all the information that the long form has;
the doctor that delivered him the witnesses that were there the location/hospital were there other siblings that were born/stillborn
Sec 7c also allows for foreign births to be registered with the State of Hawaii.
As long as the parent lived in Hawaii for 1 year prior to the birth.
So Obama, who’s own relatives state he was born in Kenya, could have been registered with the
State of Hawaii also.
His step-sister Maya, who WAS born in Indonesia, also has a Hawaiian COLB. A known foreign birth from the same mother with a State of Hawaii, Cert. of Live Birth.
Obama has also failed/refused to release any records pertaining to school, college, medical.
Why? Was he registered as a foreign exchange student at both colleges?
I agree that Obama is not an honest man. His surrogates are not honest people. That said, I am getting off the “hope Obama fails miserably” train because the country is too critical to endure another failed administration. I just hope Hillary totally outshines him and becomes our next POTUS.
Of course, he isn’t really the President and isn’t really running the country. We’ll have to hope his appointees are better prepared than he is.
OT: I read that Obama’s people actually sat down with McCain’s people to come up with the appointees. I hope that’s true.
*Obama broke campaign donation laws by accepting illegal contributions.
Rubbish. He did however out raise Republicans and it was just great to know true Democrats had more money than the 527s, GOP and McLame campaign.
*Obama broke voting laws by supporting ACORN in its voter registration fraud.
Republican smear to cover up their attempts at doing actual vote count and exclusion fraud as per 2000 and 2004.
*Obama broke caucus laws with the caucus “irregularities”.
Err - because he won them? Or because some so called Democrats did not actually like being around black people, who were now turning out to vote?
*Obama voted for FISA.
Imagine the attacks about how pro terrorist he is if he had not. No one who voted for a 3rd Republican Term should call him on this.
*Obama refuses to prove his eligibility to hold the office of President by showing his birth certificate; he tried to pass off a forged copy as the real thing.
Completely offensive bull, about as real as the whitey tape and the room service receipt. Except - it is worse as it comes from far right bigots.
Hello troll, still working minimumwage?
Elitist
These thugs keep returning & lying for their messiah.
Ironic that people like the anti bigot comment above think a denial is all the proof needed to give mystery man Soertoro a pass but there is no proof solid enough to penetrate their blind obedience to the leader of their cult.
Every time I see that Greek temple gathering in Denver where candidate Obama did his “Grand Poobah” thing, I think of those mass weddings presided over by Sun Myung Moon and cringe at the thought the world will compare the two also.
TheAntiBigot is the dumbest of all the trolls. I still want to know why they are coming here. We’re just laughing at the lies, denial, and stupidity.
Yes, why are they coming here? I broke down and looked at HuffPo. She is actually defending Hillary now! Then there was an article that the Obamabots love Geithner because he skateboards, snowboards, and use the “f” word. That is their criteria for a cabinet appointee.
I absolutely refuse to go to the HuffPo.
Sorry, but what an mega bitch Arianna is. She will not get a hit from my computer.
The Anti-Bigot? I don’t think so.
because some so called Democrats did not actually like being around black people, who were now turning out to vote?
*Obama voted for FISA.
Imagine the attacks about how pro terrorist he is if he had not. No one who voted for a 3rd Republican Term should call him on this.
This is one of the principle reasons I voted for a third Republican term. Obama promised he would not vote for any FISA bill which granted immunity to telecom companies and would support a filibuster of the bill. Your admission that his vote was politically motivated tells me all I need to know about him and you for excusing it. McCain voted for the bill also, but he never said he wouldn’t.
Do you know what FISA is and the reason it was established? If you do, you are the first bot I’ve come across who does. It protects one of the most important rights in the Bill Of Rights. Our right to privacy. He is no different than Bush and you are no different than the sheep who followed him into hell and drug the rest of us with them.
I feel sorry for you and for us.
Here, here!!!!! WELL SAID!!!
On the February FISA bill, obama and Hillary did not vote, McCain voted yes. (S.2248)
On the July FISA bill, Clinton voted NO, Obama infamously voted YES, and McCain didn’t vote.
(HR 6304)
Anti-Bigot? These people think just because they voted for a black person, they’re better than everyone else. It’s like the fundies voting for a man they thought was at the right hand of God, so they were superior to everyone else. People in this country have to get educated and informed so they can analyze candidates properly and put people in the WH who know what they are doing.
How many times are you going to repost this same piece of nonsense on different threads. It has been proven bogus.
Anti bigot- what are you -some kind of a paid historical revisionist?
Educate yourself and then please come back & refute the following- Thanks.
View the video’s released on August 9th 2008 by the Sam J
Ervin Jr, former chairman of Watergate commission, library and museum in Morgantown NC. According to producers, the DNC (with the support of the MSM) has perpetuated a crime and fraud against the American voters by claiming Obama as the presumptive nominee.
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lPCunsrI1Q
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Khsg8iKjU
Superdelegates votes can not count until convention
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXpz8AJk8TM
*VERY IMPORTANT PART: Why Obama is not the presumptive nominee
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http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/
This is excellent site too…
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm
I think Obama will fear appearing weak more than he will fear alienating his liberal base. His vote for FISA is a case in point. But I do think that the smaller, covert programs will be quietly undone.
We can only hope…wait, uh nevermind. I don’t think that word means anything anymore.
Miss Berry, I won’t let BHO steal the word HOPE from me. fk that!
and Larry, BIG SIGH MAN, I hope some of the ? 22 percent? of the Bush apologists will READ and COMPREHEND your very rational and SERIOUS words here!
The disconnect of so many is just so disappointing and frankly getting a bit scary on BOTH SIDES!
Thanks for keeping it REAL!
I am not entirely sure what has been pointed out here that is of such tragic nature unless you take Vanity Fair as a legitimate, unbiased new source (even though there are, again, no specifics). Again, if the behavior of the Bush admin. is a shredding of the constitution, illegal, criminal, etc. then the great icon of liberalism, FDR, is a criminal of unparalleled proportions. While the patriot act allows US to listen in on citizens phone calls, FDR imprisoned them in relocation camps. FDR charged many citizens with “unAmerican activities”, censored every new article print or broadcast and maintained an office of propoganda, attepted to pack the Supreme Court.
I will never take these charges of “constitution shredding” against the Bush admin seriously unless they are accompanied by a caveat to the effect of “no president since FDR has had such contempt for constitutional law, blah, blah blah”. When I look at this in a historical perspective it all looks pretty tame by comparison and unless you acknowledge the abuses of FDR it just looks partisan.
(I do commend Larry for referencing Warren but the issue was FDR and it was much deeper then what he referred to).
Hasn’t the gov apologized for that?
The similarities here are very superficial, I find your arguments fatuous, sorry.
Do you understand why?
And I’m not excusing FDR’s actions, they were wrong, but to compare Cheney’s actions, a full frontal, deliberate assault on the Constitution, with Roosevelt’s, is at best, a leap of logic.
At the very least the WOT was never defined, and Clinton had set precedent with the first world trade center bombing, as to legal procedure.
Cheney ignored precedent, trying to reshape law around his political agenda.
your right they are superficial. FDR’s were egregious Bush’s were minor league by comparison.
What do you think would of happened if Bush had rounded up Arab-Americans and shipped them off to internment camps? What would of happened if after losing Guantanamo Bay appeals he and the Repubs had expanded the Supreme Court by 5 justices and rammed their guys in? What would have happened if Bush was going around rounding up citizens on charges of “un-American activities” and imprisoning them without habeus corpus? What would happen if the Bush administration was requiring every broadcast and print news story approved by the White House?
This is what FDR does and he’s a hero but Bush is the one who is destroying the republic and undermining the constitution.
Yeah that makes perfect sense.
“And I’m not excusing FDR’s actions, they were wrong, but to compare Cheney’s actions, a full frontal, deliberate assault on the Constitution”
I would like to counter with:
I’m not excusing Bush’s actions, but to compare FDR’s actions, a full frontal, deliberate assault on the Supreme Court and the Constitution, with Bush’s, is at best, a suspension of logic.
Ok, next year Bush will apologize and everything will be right again with the republic and the constitution.
If you don’t take the charges of Bush shredding the Constitution seriously then you can’t read. It has nothing to do with anything any other President has done. Do you think if you can say that a Democrat behaved against the Constitution then it’s okay that Bush did it? When I see someone defending George W. Bush’s administration, especially in regard to the Constitution, then I know that person is a partisan hack who doesn’t care about this country. The first step to recovery for Republicans is to admit they made a mistake to vote for Bush and stop trying to rationalize his criminal actions.
This whole administration should go directly to jail and their fortunes be forfeit to the People of the United States. They are crooks.
You mean like potential AG Eric Holder’s quietly undermining the first amendment? If Bush had said something like this, there’d have been hell to pay.
This Eric Holder video makes me sick. Why does the left hate free speech so much?
That was 10 years ago, before we saw the lawlessness Cheney’s kooks brought to the government.
Meaning the attempts to suppress free speech, (passive attempts to bully, intimidate or censor), just produced lateral movement, it did not inhibit action whatsoever, overt criminal behavior is another animal, altogether, and can be regulated, at least among the more marginal.
There is a difference between trying to limit free speech and regulating spam on the Internet.
My problem with these restrictions on free speech is with the word “reasonable.” Who gets to define that word, now and into the future?
Again, it’s a slippery slope. And frankly, I don’t have a whole lot of trust in the Government these days [on either political side].
Before Dems start talking about the restrictions their planning, I’d like to hear specific policy solutions to the mess we’re in.
But that’s me.
Reasonable is a legal term stemming from English Common Law on which the Constitution is based.
Bud W. :
or not so quietly…He does need to throw some talking points to his `political army’. In othe rowrds he wil porbably make quiet a bit of noise of the smaller things to keep his wing quiet while he keep things such as FISA untouched.
Jeez, my typing is awful: correction
In othe rowrds he wil porbably —–> In other words he will probably….
Sorry.
Bud, I don’t agree. His FISA vote showed he is weak and ready to compromise his principles (assuming he has some). It also spoke to the lack of integrity of the new so-called progressive Democrats when they ignored his lie and betrayed what they claim are their own hopes for America.
Does anybody really expect an Obama administration to refuse the powers usurped by Bush?
I ain’t gonna hold my breath.
“Refuse the powers usurped by Bush”, god NO. I think he will try and expand them.
He’ll use them for 6 years and then tamp them down in the final two to deny the next president.
Well, I have to agree with you there. The whole reason the Dems HAD to have Obama and not Clinton is so they could have a weak president and his surrogates could grab the expanded executive power. We already see this happening.
One reason I LOVE that Hillary is SOS. Kerry and Richardson betrayed her because they thought the position would be theirs. Guess Kerry’s out all together.
President Elect Obama (whew..that was rough…saying it out loud is worse) is in for more than he bargained for and it’s only a matter of time before the MSM turns on him.
Palin 2012
don’t say it!! I can’t!
I call him the token candidate
That comment and your comment about registering to become an illegal alien to get free stuff, says more about you then.
They just repeat anything negative that they hear. It isn’t really an attempt to persuade, though. All they really want to do is get a rise out of you. The acrimony here had zilch effect on the election…or it actually helped Obama by making anti-Obama operatives seem unreasonably partisan.
Otoken, Otoken, Otoken.
He is the token black because the powers that be decided we had to have one and black folks seemed ok with having one who is a symbol of not having had to earn the job.
Otoken, a legend in his own mind.
Larry, I think we have YAFGO (yet another fucking growth opportunity) here. Last night OIAF chimed in about her concerns about using the FD (fairness doctrine) to censor critics of the left. I share her concern. But this is what I pointed out, and please bear with me I will demonstrate some relevance to your point of this thread:
My point is somewhat tangential to yours but related: You are talking about some questionable legal decisions made by non-lawyers, and I presume these were justified by some actual lawyers using some pretty hefty legal mental gymnastics. My point is, these were decisions many in the right wing did not question, because it made us “safer.” Damn the consequences to our liberty, just as damn the consequecnes to our liberty when some in the left are calling for censorship under the guise of “fairness.”
The left was outraged at Bush for threatening our liberty, and now the left threatens our liberty in-kind as perhaps retribution even. The right threatened our liberty for “safety” (out of and using fear) and now they are complaining about the left. I think I am on to something major here that was maybe just too obvious to be noticed: we are on a treadmill and need to jump off to see we are going circular nowhere real fast. I hope others in the pragmatic sensible balanced middle will run with this.
It’s simple, I think: both sides want to cheat to their own advantage, so neither is willing to undo the circumstances that led to being able to cheat, even if it means that the opposition might sometimes cheat more effectively and get the upper hand. Bush et al cheated by ignoring laws and convoluted interpretations, the UnOne et al cheated by exploiting loopholes. If the Repubs could have exploited the nominating process to get the weak candidate, they would have (maybe they did). None of them is going to set this situation straight when they see legal tricks as a possible advantage. Remember it’s an ongoing game, there’s always another election.
I noticed it
My greatest hope is that some day in the next ten years we can stop talking about Bush every time Fraudbama’s name comes up. All I know is this…whatever happened in the past is past. Now, if we take all the advice here, it’s time to move forward. All I have seen throughout the Fraudbama campaign is continual threats to personal rights and freedoms. Please stop saying “well Bush did it, so we can.” That logic doesn’t fly. My concern about the Fairness Doctrine, and the way I understand the left will interpret and “stretch” it, has nothing to do with Bush, Cheney, Condi, etc. They’re not in this mix. It has to do with substantive rights that were TALKING POINTS from the Fraudulent Fraudbama Campaign, and things that ALL AMERICANS should be concerned about. This party nonsense and regurgitating Bush is getting old. I didn’t vote for him. I don’t care about him. I want to stop Fraudbama from destroying the Constitution. Why is Bush brought up every time we discuss the future?
I get pissed that they are STILL BRINGING UP CARTER!!
I served PROUDLY under CArter and appreciate the hell out of the fact he didn’t take ME into some unlawful or illegal war for oil.
Yea digging up the past is for making points that apparently some refuse to grasp.
Bush is history (not yet) but eventually I’ll stop dissing him. Bambi will be on the list much longer.
Dawnelle, history isn’t disconnected points on a line which have no relationshiip to cause and effect. It is an infinite series of events each leading to the next. The Bush presidency will not end when he walks out of the White House for the last time any more than the Lincoln presidency ended with his death, but was a continuation of our history.
We can no more throw away parts of our history as a nation than we can our individual pasts that make us who we are. Why can’t we learn to avoid the fire once we have been burned? If some one tells me to forget about Bush and give Obama a chance to prove he is different when reason tells me he isn’t, I have learned nothing. I live in this country and there is nothing I can do to change anything now because it will require a collective consciesness and that probably will not happen until we crash and burn.
I think you need to get used to the fact most people here are very concerned about the legacy of Bush presidency and will continue to express their concerns. Many of the concerns you have about Obama arguably stem from abuses and increased executive powers stemming from decisions made during the Bush administration. You can chose to ignore this, but don’t expect others to. I respect your viewpoint of course.
This is up thread but let me address it here:
Many here are from the left or are centrist left leaners (like me although I embrace principles from both “sides”). We don’t hate free speech and defend it. Would you like me to generalize and say: Why does the right hate free speech so much?
I know not all on the right think this way. But some of the social conservatives back measures to censor “pornography” or “obscenity” under the guise of “protecting children.”
My point is, both sides are pro-censorship when it suits their agenda and scream the loudest when the other side tries to censor. The rest of us stuck in the middle don’t want any censorship, except for things like screaming “fire” in a crowded move theater, and things of that nature.
Galt, every time you respond to me it’s like you are responding to someone who is some raging GOP member right winger. You know for a fact, as we have discussed privately, that I am not sitting here defending Bush nor did I vote for him. All I said was is it possible to ever discuss Fraudbama’s plans, those that are his own words and things that are on HIS agenda, without talking about what Bush did? It’s getting silly. I didn’t say anyone should stop the 24/7 Bush bashing. That will never stop here. As for my comment about the “left stopping free speech,” I’m sorry but who among the group of Fairness Doctrine SUPPORTERS is NOT on the left? Kerry, Schumer, Pelosi, Feinstein, etc. Are they GOP members? Just curious. The restriction of our rights has nothing to do with Bush or party. It has to do with being American.
I’m sorry you feel that way, as that is not my intention and I do not think a neutral observer would disagree with me. I do not think my comments even imply you are a “raging GOP member right winger” and I do not consider you this at all. But I will continue to voice my opinions about what you are saying. You are putting things out here and should expect feedback. You tend to generalize (”Why does the left hate free speech so much?”) and yes I have a problem with that. And yes I will continue to speak out if I choose to.
I do not see everyone always bringing up Bush. What I do see is you keep criticizing people for bringing up Bush. I understand you don’t like it. You don’t have to reply to people here that bother you. If you want a blog where people don’t bring up Bush critically as much as you see that happening here, there are plenty out there I am sure. But I think there is something here that draws people here from many backgrounds. I always expect friction and inhomogeneity here.
I won’t go back and forth on this, I really do try to understand and respect your views, and expect the same in return.
Read my post Galt…I don’t care about people bashing Bush all day. If I did care, I wouldn’t BE here. What I SAID was is it possible to ever evaluate the legitimate plans that Fraudbama has for this country, which I find very scary, without having to IMMEDIATELY bring Bush up, which is then saying “the GOP did it, so it’s okay for the other side.” I have never once gone on a defense of Bush rant here. NEVER. I couldn’t care less. I have never criticized you for your Bush feelings. But Larry brought up a discussion about the Fairness Doctrine, which didn’t relate to BUSH going forward in 2009, and you immediately posted again about Bush.
maybe bc you sound like a right wing extremist?
Like most of what you claim there isn’t a shred of proof the fairness doctrine is on the table.
Only right wing gas bags claim otherwise.
Maybe because you are an uneducated troll? The Fairness Doctrine IS on the table but you would have to read a newspaper, or watch the news, to know that.
Right.
This is why we supported Clinton, some of us, DK as odious as Free Republic.
They dont see it in themselves, how their tactics, their words, their need to use Cheney Atwater tactics is simply Bush, left.
They justify it as “win at any cost,” without understanding why that is impossible.
The dont seem to understand American political theory, either side, in the end, the reasoning behind the Constitution, and why it provides for successful, long term survival of our government.
And honestly, they seem absolutely obtuse to American law enforcement, like kids thinking Mom and Dad aren’t home, inviting their friends over to party — they’re setting up an already DOA dysfunctional government within a larger structure they can’t see — namely, the Constitution.
exactly
just like PUNK kids!
I remember reading somewhere “punk” meant a homosexual “twink,” of sort, dependent upon an older man for his keep.
I can’t help but laugh every time I hear the word…
my dad would use that when he’d see or hear about protesters tearing up the place after rallies
he would have called those attendees that DUMPED their flags all over the ground after BAMBI’s Denver speech……….. he would have called them PUNKS
that’s what a punk is to me
also
my DAD served in WW2 but he was stationed in the Philippines (he also got malaria while he was in Luzon so was shipped home after 2 yrs) he could never give blood after that. Died in the 80’s and was a very patriotic “rino” and I miss him daily!
just had to add that - a union man - electrician
lol…PUNK has many meanings as a word on both sides of the Atlantic…chuckle…Dawnelle’s Dad used the slang in the classic sense…And Iggy Pop took that and spun it on it’s head as an anthem of protest…chuckle…
Generally it means a young ruffian; someone or something deemed to be worthless…according to webster’s
tyvm! that is my intent!
But for some reason, and I don’t know why, I can only see the prison slang.
Even when you bring up Iggy, well, not Iggy.
Maybe Sid.
Hopefully the new president-elect will spend more time on shoring up the economy than trying to compete with President Bush’s lack of legal influences in his inner circle. Focusing on the economy should be priority-one.
http://ontheseventhday.wordpress.com/
Obama’s first Constitutional challenge would be to produce a legit birth certificate and prove that he is eligible to be President.
Ditto that LisaNY…Oy! The I R O N Y !
Amen, Larry. I just finished a terrific book: The Nine by Toobin.
It’s a solid (yeah…liberal) view of the Supreme Court.
I highly recommend it.
You may wish to read Mark Levin’s Men in Black, then.
I’ve just started reading this, but I think everyone should.
so much for lawyers. the last pair in the whitehouse was impeached. The next pair lives in a world swirling with legal baggage and the legal baggage that will be exposed around Obama will be massive.
Given the unusual campaign season, I really have doubts the MSM will ever give up their kissy face with the new pres.
I agree with most everyone here. Obama will stay away from challenging legal issues but in my estimation because his strategy would be to surmount by rallying up the masses of supporters in a radical socialistic fashion - a la Chavez. Yes, I still see him in that category - as following in Chavez’s instincts.
I don’t see the Obama administration working civilly. I see them continuing to work by rallying up the MSM the same way they so successfully did during the campaign. I think after Jan 20th. the campaign will begin again, subtly but firmly - the campaign of justification by rallying the support of the masses. In other words, they will revive the army of Obots and keep feeding them. That’s they way I see it.
Having wrote that, now I will say that it just dawn on me that the reason for bring Hillary up as SoS synchronizes perfectly with my previous statement. And in that sense Hillary as SoS adds substantially to the danger that Obama possess to not only the U.S. but the world at large. What I am saying is that by having Hillary in the SoS position, it will be much easier for Obama to rally not only his loyal army of Obots but to develop a ‘royal army’ of Obots worldwide that will include Hillary supporters.
Now I ask, what do you think?
paranoid
What kind of response is this?
as a friend of mine says
” if you are not paranoid you are not paying attention”
WOMEN,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
good point
sometimes knowing too much is scary especially when the sheeple are being herded somewhere else!
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrMSM
It’s best not to make something kind of stupid into a monster.
Unfortunately, say, the former USSR is suspected of financing Iran, even if only advising them on their “nuclear development.”
Iran with a nuke frightens people, but why do we assume having a nuclear capability is indicative of knowing HOW to use nuclear weapons?
Asymmetrical war, a concept most of us are somewhat familiar with, works both ways. It is a very complex web, not all are able to strategize equally.
Iran, or even Russia, cannot sustain with broken economies, the cost of financing terrorism is as high as the cost of financing Iraq, all is relative.
I guess I’m trying to say it’s best to keep things in perspective, it’s the best we can do, insuring our own house is in order according to the principles our founding fathers, and other great minds, through the years, instituted.
If Obama, like Bush, violates the Constitution, well, been there, done that…
What do I think? More to the point is what does Obama’s history (or lack thereof) tell us? It tells us what you just stated all summed up in one word, “ALINSKI”.
LOL another boogey man.
List three things about Alinski you disaprove of.
Betcha you don’t have a clue. Rushlevinhannity never got that far into that smear.
No, he’s right, Obama DID use deliberate methods to conquer and divide, deliberate agitation as a campaign method, hardly an inclusive RFK.
IF–IF–Obama would enforce the law, IE our CONSTITUTION and all it envelopes, then, as much as I now dislike the guy , I would want to shake his hand and say THANK YOU. THANK YOU EVER SO MUCH PRESIDENT OBAMA. But as it now stands, if he did that, I think he would have to lock himself up in prison.
And who was that woman who got her law degree from Oral Roberts (or some religious guh) “school” of law? Her bias and incompetence caused a lot of pain for a lot of people.
lmao I remember that ditz!
amazing that she had such a high level job (makes you wonder)
same with the other ditzs living in the bubble
and the harriet meyers nomination!! LMAO! Even the RIGHT had a hissy over that ditz.
now noticing that these are all women ditzs which doesn’t please me at allllllllll!
Obama might have a law degree, but he also has no scruples. This makes him more dangerous, as far as I’m concerned. He will walk right up to the line and put his toe over it again and again and be able to justify it legally. Having his competition eliminated when he ran for the Illinois Senate may have been “legal”, but it showed a lack of ethics or morals. The way he conducted his campaign was seriously ethically challenged. Does anyone really believe that he will do the “right thing” once he is in office.
I just keep thinking of all the political enemies he has made along the way who would be more than happy to see Barfo bite the big one and they may even assist his downfall.
Why haven’t they yet then? Why did they allow him to become POTUS? They did not care now, they will not care later. Instead they will see what they can get from him now that he is in power.
People in this country are free, free to make decisions, free to commit treason, even.
But that doesn’t say they’ll be successful, for the long term.
Like Bush and Cheney, they make their own decisions, if they fail, if they can’t plan, it’s of their own accord, isn’t it?
I mean, if it’s rebuilt successfully, is it really a BAD THING Wall Street failed, considering how unable it is to manage successfully?
Taking into consideration past performance, I don’t believe Obama or the Congress have the intestinal fortitude to hold the Bushies accountable for their violations of the Constitution.
I was delighted in 2006 when Democrats took control of the House and the first woman Speaker was chosen. When those Democrats were elected my understanding was the voters wanted the Democratic House to put brakes on Bush’s illegal, unconstitutional behavior.
Within a short time it became apparent these Democrats were a “get along, go along” bunch who were more than willing to continue enabling Bush. Their only interest is taking their turn at the government trough, not enforcing the Constitution. Perhaps Obama will pleasantly surprise me, but I very seriously doubt it.
Beholden to the same corporate owners, I find Pelosi repulsive.
And the apologists saying she didn’t have the votes for impeachment, as if that excuses the compliant passivity, or the crime.
The stupidest political consultants, ever, in American history.
I mean, shit stupid Ivy Leaguers, dumber than Feith.
On that issue, we part ways.
I am sick of “gotcha” politics.
It’s a luxury that went the way of corporate jets, in my opinion.
Violation of the Constitution is not “gotcha.”
Best to make that determination.
Violating the Constitution is undermining the stability of the US government.
I’m surprised you feel this way.
hmmmm….Gotcha is when you get caught with you pants down in an airport bathroom…or sneakin in to see your mistress with Enquirer reporters hot on your tail…chuckle…imho…Aaaan then there’s that cigar thingy from a decade back…
Bush is done. Obama NOW is shitting on the conistitution, why not dealing with that before it becomes a disaster yet again. Don’t count on the so called left they had seizuers every time Bush did something threatening to our sacred documents, but now they justify every crime this man does. So my guess is we are in new ball game we don’t even have a name for it. I said it during the primaries and I am saying it again.
NOW I know why bloggers thing you drank the kool aide Larry. We all know that since Mr. Selected IS “the horror” how could he recoil from any horror? Prolly need to refer back to the stellar NPD articles written here to get my drift. Selected one is bought and paid for.
The Selected one is appointing to solve the financial disaster the same people who caused it, and Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street predators were among his biggest contributors.
And please tell me why you’d even entertain that Mr. Ilegal allien-Selected President could be horrified at anything? After all, 56 million Americans believe he IS the horror.
What’s in store:
reparations, killing the coal industry and bringing us to our knees…care to add more?
Horror? We haven’t seen the worst of it yet. We could have had Hillary and a Brand New 21st century cabinet…but no..We are stuck in the past with an oudated Bill Clinton cabinet turned into thugs…my oh my..why do we still have the foxes guarding the hen house? The Selected one’s cabinet pick has created a tumble in the market..100 billion of the bail-out money just went to bonuses for hedge fund managers so they can have a good christmas traveling tropical islands and living lavishly while those who foot the bill worry about eating during the holidays..that’s where our bail-out money went..Horror? you betcha!
I guess the economy’s not so bad. If it were really bad I’d have to cancel my internet service and stop blogging.
That can be arranged.
Just kidding, Bob, you know we love you.
actually you ARE making a snarky point for MY LIFE
it comes down to keeping myself INFORMED with a computer and internet service OR give that 50 bux to some charity or blog or group or cause.
anything else for me is a 20 dollar donation and that is usually my gas money or my diet pepsi money or the dog snacks I sometimes buy for my daughters dog that I adore!
so snarky has a point
Yes yes he does…
Just settin em up, pay no mind.
I can’t speak for Larry of course, but I do think I understand him and his blog enough to address your concerns:
RT, Larry is being pragmatic. He has been a loud vocal critic during the campaign and will continue to share his strong views as things unfold. Being pragmatic, he sees no choice but to hope for the best. If/when Obama fucks up, I am certain to the core of my being Larry will be the first to speak out.
I tend to cut the guy a piece of slack, but am not afraid to challenge him, as I did last night, when he put down the overtly loud welcome mat for that previously banned race baiting blogger extraordinaire who shall remain nameless to protect children and small animals.
People like you and I are free to say things differently than him as comments, or on your own blogs if we want more control over things. I kind of like having to be me here on a blog where I don’t agree with a lot that is said. Its good for me and broadens my horizons for sure!
Galt, I think you have to cut some people like RT slack. It’s just a little breathtaking to have been here for SO long, and watched the discovery of who and what Fraudbama is, and then have the instructions be to get all Kumbaya about it. I’m not questioning anyone’s (Larry and Susan’s) authority to change the tenor of their blog. It’s their right of course. Just expect some long time bloggers to say WTF about it for a while, or leave like a few did last night.
Larry wants his site to be informative, entertaining and profitable. You need more people to be profitable. I guess people who don’t want Larry to make money can start their own sites.
He should hire an MBA, then, they’re the best.
I’m sure Larry has enough smart financial people to make sure his site continues to be profitable. They’ve already invited entertaining posters back. My next guess is, Larry’ll publish a book about this blog in the very near future.
hmm having all the time in the world to ponder someone elses future?
and what will you do with your OWN future?
who pays you to blog?
just curious bob
I have a diverse skill set that frees my time for blogging and other lifestyle activities. Do you have a diverse skill set or have you chosen one career path?
.
How bout something like “Crashing the Gates?”
Oh, wait.
I wonder if he can get a deal pimping political candidates, that makes money, too.
I think a better title..
The rise of the town hall community
How blogs destroyed the dinosaur media
Can they make money off of it, though?
Larry’s built a strong community here. I suppose it all depends on how he wants to use it. He could start supporting candidates and asking for donations like the people at Kos do. I’d donate to someone Larry recommends if he gave good arguments fo it.
Certainly, it is up to Larry, it’s his blog.
Problem is, once you start selling yourself, you compromise your ability to tell the truth.
I mean, DK is MSM, right, he can’t tell the truth, because it might compromise business.
(And who knows what the truth is, there, really, one way or another, but I’ll leave that to others).
In all honesty, it’s a rather insulated community, I don’t know of anyone who goes there for analysis.
I think I was very nice and respectful to RT. I don’t see the need to cut any additional anything. I was just trying to explain my view of what I feel Larry is up to.
Yes you were respectful, but it seems like you are telling all of us what to think and post today. Some people won’t catch up to this for a while.
not just him
but I seem to recall a few whole THREADS dedicated to how to chat and how to post and when to post and what not to post and why some are coming back from being KEPT from posting so my question is
why the fk does it matter if we break your rules as you bring us back anyway? or at your own choosing?
dee,dee,dee
I don’t know, Dawnelle, sometimes you have to figure it out for yourself.
Dee dee dee…
Speaking of, I’ve just downloaded a couple fo songs from Dick and Deedee, truly underrated 60’s talent, she has a beautiful voice.
If Obama is so smart, I want to know why one of his high school teachers said that she couldn’t understand how he got into college. Has anyone ever seen any of Obama’s grades in high school or college?
NO ONE has ever seen ANY of Fraudbama’s school records. They are part of all the lawsuits against him over his BC. He also has never provided medical records, other than a note from his doctor that he is “healthy.” Fraudbama has skated by with ZERO examination of who he is. Has anyone heard from his family? His roommates in college? Not one friend from back then has stepped up and Harvard, Occidental and Columbia have ALL refused requests for his grades and documentation. Kind of odd, huh? I still scratch me head about who this guy is and why anyone votes for him.
The Constitution doesn’t say you need a birth certificate to be president. None of the founding fathers had birth certificates.
Bob. You need to read the Constitution. You are wrong. The founding fathers PURPOSELY put an exclusion in for THEMSELVES because, DUH, they were still BRITISH CITIZENS. Yes, the Constitution says you have to be “eligible” under the definitions of Article II. Please read it. The Constitution is a very important document for this country. Didn’t your school teach you about it? Probably not, knowing how education is going in this country.
This election sets a dangerous precedent.
1..The internationalists and foreign interests bought this election without any investigation to illegal fund raising
2. Clearly there is issues with Obama’s citizenship although I believe its a mute point now
Can you just imagine how fast this country will be taken over by foreign powers if we have no checks on what country a person comes from or how they are being financed.
Hey Moss!
You are right, except for the BC issue really isn’t “moot” yet at all. The good news is there are some people out there who won’t give it up until somehow, some way, Fraudbama is compelled to show it! Patriotism alive and well.
Hey B
Thanks for the spell check!
You’re hired..
LOL Moss. I didn’t do it to check your spelling, but, yeah, I guess I corrected you.
When do I start?
I’m still working on that dress code right now…
I’m all for the right kind of change!
he has shown or provided it.
How do you think he got his passport?
Name a single qualified person claiming his comb is fake.
Who’d he show it to? Having a passport has nothing to do with it. Maybe you should go to the websites that contain the documentation before you make judgments on things you haven’t researched? Just a thought. And when YOU see the real version of a BC, let me know!
name a single expert
Go do your reading. Lawyers are experts on the Constitution. DUH.
I have a passport, I never showed my birth certificate to get it either.
Weren’t people talking a few years back about changing the Constitution so Schwarzenegger could run for president? Is that still a good idea?
I might be the wrong person to ask that. I certainly do NOT advocate letting people like Fraudbama near the Constitution at this moment. Considering his admitted disdain for it, that might be a bad idea.
Is the only criteria for “eligible” a birth certificate? Birth certificates weren’t widely used until 1946. How many presidents used birth certificates as “eligibility” for their citizenship? Lincoln was born in a log cabin. Did he have a birth certificate? How about Franklin D. Roosevelt?
bob…If and when you, or anyone else, can “prove” that Fraudbama is “eligible,” then this issue will go away. Unless and until Fraudbama shows a REAL BC (which, yes, is the standard to determine place of birth) then people will give it up, apologize and move on. I’m not clear on what you are trying to say, to be honest, although I’m trying to respond.
Besides a birth certificate what other things can a person to use to prove they’re a citizen?
bob…I don’t get what you are asking. Let’s put it this way…Fraudbama claims that he DOES have a BC, right? So the only issue is his refusal to show it.
he has shown it several times
Bc you claim it is fake does not make of so.
Because you want to believe it is real, doesn’t make it so either. As well as can be determined from examining a picture, which is all this is, it could be a complete Photoshop job and most likely is. It doesn’t look like pictures of known birth certificates. It is also not even a picture of a birth certificate, but of a birth certification which is of lesser legal value.
The fact that a picture exists does not, in this digital age, mean that a real object had its picture taken with a camera. Or do you believe in all the special effects you see in movies?
Whether he shows it or not, is a BC the only way to prove you’re a citizen?
If you lost your BC today OIAF, how would you prove you’re an American citizen?
bob…wow. If you lose it, there is an original on file and you get a copy. WTF is wrong with you?
greenery…no, he hasn’t shown it to anyone. You’re a troll/liar. If he is comfortable showing it, then why are two lawsuits in front of the Supreme Court about it and Fraudbama STILL won’t show it? You trolls and OVomit freaks can NEVER answer that. He should just publically SHOW IT. He has to.
Stupid bigot - this birth certificate rumour is a stormfront thing. I guess you like being associated with them.How is TechDude?If it was not for Obama being African American would you raise doubts about his birth certificate? Did you demand to see the birth certificate of Hillary?Why do you believe where she says she was born any more than Obama? Is it because you hate our American President?
Why are the right wing so hateful of America?
[Administrator: You are an elitist bigot. Furthermore, you're flat out wrong with all of your ASSumptions. Begone with you.]
You are really an unwell person “TheAntiBigot.” Why do you trollz come here with your nonsensical rants? It has nothing to do with race. If and when your BOSS shows a real BC we will deal with it. Hillary’s birth place has already been determined and verified. The ONLY liar and FRAUD is the BS “President Select” who WILL have to answer this. You can whine all your panzy azz wants but it won’t go away. 17 lawsuits against Fraudbama and if he wanted it to stop he would just show a REAL document, rather than just claim, on his own website, that “his Kenyan citizenship expired in 1982.” See, that’s a big problem.
Have you seen Hillary’s BC?
Everyone’s seen it. I’m sure if we asked her, she’d show it. That’s the problem with your boss, troll, everyone’s asking to see it and he’s saying NO and flipping America the finger.
bout time someone figured out who obama was really flipping the bird at. He see’s hillary and mccain everyday. No baby those birds were for all us naysayers. He will get aways with this the same way bush was able to get away with his bull, because a lot of people like these trolls would never believe someone would so blatently lie to them.
Why am I wrong?
Being a con man is a level of smart. Just not book smart.
Right.
Like some people think a fuck monkey is a troll.
You don’t think con men are smart? Wall Street isn’t run by a lot of con men?
NO, I was agreeing, a fuck monkey isn’t a troll, a fuck monkey thinks he’s a troll.
Get it?
As in “I ride the wild fuck monkey…”
Except he isn’t wild, and he isn’t much of a fuck.
(Ok, I’ll stop now).
No, Obama has walked away from all that’s right. As his latest flip on FISA showed. He already had the nomination when he did that too.
The only thing he stood on principle was what John McCain had been advocating and HIS RECORD showed his talk matched his walk, on torture and closing down Guantanamo. O-shit! just was copying (again) John McCain on that one.
German Publishing’s Man in the White House. More trouble on the horizon for the erstwhile Messiah.
He can lecture about ethics. Barack can do that and boast of his commitment to Excelon at the same time.
Obama? Courage? Is this a serious question?
OBAMA IS A FRAUD……you are right about how and what the school teach. As, the teachers knowledge are ” limited”, they can’t teach what they don’t know.
On Sept. 17th, I greeted everyone with “Happy Constitution Day!” Not one of my granddaughters’ teachers knew what I was referring to.
You mean “torture” as in removing religious symbols, having a woman touch them, shaving them, making them stand up for a really long time, and let’s not forget the naked pyramid. That torture? I would take this seriously if they were pulling out fingernails, breaking bones etc. But I’m sorry, this just seems ridiculous. The enemy will saw our soldiers’ heads off on the internet for all to see but ooooh we might shave them? Seriously????Waterboarding is iffy, but I don’t have a problem with it in dire circumstances. I am definitely NOT for REAL torture. This just is not what I consider “torture”.
You gotta hear this 90 minute blogradio on why the media has a blackout of the looming Obama Birth Certificate Constitutional Crisis:
politicalpistachio.blogspot.com/2008/11/why-is-obamas-birth-certificate-still.html
Thanks Larry for point this out as a very important topic that is a swap ready to be drained.
While I will not rule it out, I believe BO will sweep it ALL under the rug.
Not a ray of sun light will shine upon the extent of the law breaking will never be known.
What chits are being held in close…by the transgressors?
Well, I might change my mind if the first person to “frog march” is Rove.
All I have to say to Obama..
Don’t go there..if you investigate or prosecute those that have kept us since 911 you will divide the country.
I believe that Obama has seen the briefings and knows now what is at stake
My recommendation..Run like hell from the left!!
Bill Richardson to Be Commerce Secretary
http://news.aol.com/main/obama-presidency/article/richardson-to-be-commerce-secretary/257746
I would reccomend Jack Goldsmith’s booka nd a review of his congressional testimony.
I believe Charlie Rose interviewed him about the time his book came out as well.
Again, the relationship between the OLC and DOJ is one of an inside kabal.
Why the hell would Andy Card and Addington be involved in strong arming the AG and Tome as the AG was all banged up? Ashcroft can kiss my ()(^, but that said even he knew enough law to know it was illegal. (what ever it was they doing the frog march over)
BO having courage you ask Mr. Johnson?
I can’t wait to see the look on the face of the head of the Office of legal Counsel
face come Feb 1st of next year.
I bet the person hair turns white.
I think if it were a “war on terror”, then we would have been more focused on the terrorists, especially the ones who carried out 9/11.
In regards to Iraq, I still think it was what Bush said about Saddam, “he tried to kill my dad”.
Remember the cries of “Hillary is DLC?”
Here’s DLC gloating : “Obama is our boy! take that, netroots!
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/24/triumphant-dlc-gloats-over-enraged-impotent-netroots/
Great piece by the way. Problem is, I’m concerned there’s going to be no unearthing of illegalities or insisting on accountability. All these people may be allowed to go free. I hope not, but maybe that’s part of this “post-partisanship” — no accountability for government types.
I have read SEVERAL posts on various sites and I can feel the frustration and the hopelessness many feel about the probability of Obama being vetted or exposed. I can understand the frustration but if it’s one thing that we should have learned from Obama is to NEVER give up hope!
ACORN was being investigated for fraud in all of the battleground states and it is just so happens that Obama won the bulk of the battleground states. Do you really think it was a coincidence. The primary and general election has FRAUD written all over it but no one touched this story after he was projected the winner.
Also, WE SHOULD NOT overlook the fact that Obama has not or can not produce a valid copy of his live birth certificate to prove that he is a Natural born US Citizen now in all fairness McCain isn’t a natural born US citizen either. The Constitition is the foundation of what this country was built on and the fact that the media and several judges want to over look this very potent issue issue is a slap in the face to the constitution and the American People!
Are we going to sit back and allow this travesty take place or are we going to FIGHT! Right now there is only one way (I can think of) to get national and international attention about the fact that Obama has yet to produce legitimate documentation to show that he is a Natural Born Citizen which is a strong indication that he isn’t————-Obama ran a good grassroot campaign, let’s take pointers from him. WE THE PEOPLE need to run an even better UNDERGROUND operation. You want the MSM media to cover this story with a vengence—–FORCE THEM TO COVER IT. The question is HOW can we force them to cover it———SIMPLE we must ban together and hold peaceful protest marches———-similar to what was done during the 1060’s Civil Rights Movement.
I guarantee you if hundreds of thousands or even millions of Americans marched on the steps in a peaceful protest to the Supreme Court —–or if peaceful demonstrations and marches were held THROUGHOUT the country, this would be all over the MSM like wildfire and they will be FORCED to cover all of the corruption that they have been apart of covering up! Obama’s people can bully one or two people but they CAN NOT overcome the power of millions of Americans coming together PEACEFULLY asking for the courts, lawmakers and Media to do their jobs!
America–is it time to stop whining and fight back! It is time to reclaim our Country!!
The Born Conspiracy
By Ron Polarik, PhD
Dr. Polarik’s final report is the culmination of over four months of intensive, empirical research, the sole purpose of which has been to determine if the images and photographs posted on the Internet are true reproductions of a genuine document purported to be Obama’s original birth certificate.
In his report, Dr. Polarik provides conclusive and irrefutable evidence that the Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) image created and distributed by Obama’s campaign to the Daily Kos, Annenberg’s Factcheck, and the St. Petersburg Times, and Politifact, is, unquestionably, a false identification document.
Furthermore, there is conclusive and irrefutable evidence that the photos taken by Annenberg’s Factcheck, in collusion with the Obama campaign, are themselves, false identification documents, having been made from the same false identification document image, as well as from additional false identification documents created for the same purpose; namely, to proffer these false identification documents as true reproductions of a genuine, Hawaii-issued and certified, “Certification of Live Birth” document, and thereby, intentionally deceive the American public into believing that Barack Hussein Obama is a natural-born citizen of the United States, and thereby, fully qualified to become their President.
Sadly, mainstream media have totally ignored this inconvenient truth and are not even been willing to even look at this birth certificate issue. They are all still in-the-tank for Obama, but even more so now that he is in line to be President. They all bought into the lies and fraudulent documents proffered up as evidence on Obama’s qualifications. They have been too quick to label as “trash” or “garbage” any legitimate questions asked about Obama’s real birth certificate. Even high-ranking governmental officials in the state of Hawaii where Obama was allegedly born, won’t reveal what’s on Obama’s original birth certificate. All they have said is that they have it. They have not said (1) where Obama was born, (2) when Obama was born, or (3) even to whom Obama was born.
The answer to “What’s on Barack Obama’s real, original birth certificate” ranks right up there with some of the great mysteries of our time — and that is really hard to swallow. That a man, with a dubious background, has been elected to the highest office of the greatest superpower in the world without ever having to prove who he says he is! That is not “nutty,” that’s just plain insane!
With all that said, and without further ado, I present to you my final and complete report on Barack Obama’s bogus birth certificate, The Born Conspiracy.
Dr. Polariks’ Final Report
WARNING: This explosive report is BIG with many large images. If you do not have high-speed Internet access, go get a cup of coffee when you click the link.
SIGN THE PETITION TO FORCE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA TO PRESENT HIS QUALIFICATIONS.
PETITION FOR PUBLIC RELEASE OF
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE
To: Electoral College, Congress of the United States, Federal Elections Commission, U.S. Supreme Court, President of the United States, other controlling legal authorities
Whereas, by requirement of the United States Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, no one can be sworn into office as president of the United States without being a natural born citizen;
Whereas, there is sufficient controversy within the citizenry of the United States as to whether presidential election winner Barack Obama was actually born in Hawaii as he claims;
Whereas, Barack Obama has refused repeated calls to release publicly his entire Hawaiian birth certificate, which would include the actual hospital that performed the delivery;
Whereas, lawsuits filed in several states seeking only proof of the basic minimal standard of eligibility have been rebuffed;
Whereas, Hawaii at the time of Obama’s birth allowed births that took place in foreign countries to be registered in Hawaii;
Whereas, concerns that our government is not taking this constitutional question seriously will result in diminished confidence in our system of free and fair elections;
SIGN HERE:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550
The above article appears on WorldNetDaily.
BREAKING NEWS: We can now report that a tape does indeed exist, that people we have spoken with have SEEN, and on this tape, we see washed-up has-been ex-CIA janitor Larry Johnson in action.
On this alarming, explosive video tape, Larry is seen re-enacting a scene from the famous movie, Brokeback Mountain, and the other participant in this scene is none other than Idaho Senator, and foot-tapping sensation, Larry Craig!
As the two engage in salacious sexual acts, Larry Johnson is CLEARLY heard saying “Whitey! Stick it in my ass! Whitey! Don’t Stop!”.
We are told that this tape is certainly going to be released just in time for the Georgia Senate run-off election.