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		<title>By: pm317</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/28/mumbai-update-and-observations/#comment-1066534</link>
		<dc:creator>pm317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, people should read up on how Kashmiri Pandits (Hindus) were systematically removed from Kashmir by force (from Pakistani insurgents and guerrilla groups.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, people should read up on how Kashmiri Pandits (Hindus) were systematically removed from Kashmir by force (from Pakistani insurgents and guerrilla groups.)</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>British Security and the Indian PM have said that there is no evidence that any of them were born and raised in the UK. While there is a significant Pakistan community in the UK, (as there is also in the US) the facts are not known at this time so please do not jump to that conclusion and wait for the evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>British Security and the Indian PM have said that there is no evidence that any of them were born and raised in the UK. While there is a significant Pakistan community in the UK, (as there is also in the US) the facts are not known at this time so please do not jump to that conclusion and wait for the evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/28/mumbai-update-and-observations/#comment-1065946</link>
		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my American friends mentioned this as a war on civilization. Many Indians don&#039;t have an option to have a definite opinion. But plain facts are :

1- A Radical muslim movement &quot;Muslim unity&quot; was supported along the lines of &quot;workers unity&quot; , Distant events in Turkey had impact in India in first part of last century. The Indian National Congress accomodated most of those demands. Good number of Muslims were there in Indian National Congress.

2- In the middle of last century, with british support,  muslim brotherhood was taken in form of partition of India. Its leader was not a devout muslim. But this thing degenerated into one of the worst and less spoken violence of last century. Hindus got cleaned from land of Pure ( That is the meaning of Pakisthan), and gradually from Bangladesh. 

3- In 1990s hindus again got cleaned up from Kashmir, where  they stayed with muslims since the time muslims invaded it hundreds of years ago. Pakisthanis  created these terror camps and sent them to India. It is the same Lakshar that had sent the terrorists to Mumbai . In kashmir they performed cruel attacks on the villagers, it killed them like animals.It also conducted  daredevil attacks and engaged the security forces.

  In the intervening decades, India had fought two major wars  with Pakisthan.

4- When the then USA president Mr Clinton visited India, these Lakshars were dressed in Army fatigue and massacred an entire sikh village in the darkness of night. Then they spread the rumor that Indian Army has massacred sikhs also !! Fortunately Mr Clinton saw through it, President Clinton had condemned the terrorists.

5- The muslim brotherhood of Pakisthan didn&#039;t work, it was split into two after dissatisfaction and atrocities in east pakisthan. 

   Pakisthan see the ummah or muslim brotherhood, and its power brokers managed to rule that country by selling this premise. India essentially says that brotherhood logic is internal to Pakisthan&#039;s ideology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my American friends mentioned this as a war on civilization. Many Indians don&#8217;t have an option to have a definite opinion. But plain facts are :</p>
<p>1- A Radical muslim movement &#8220;Muslim unity&#8221; was supported along the lines of &#8220;workers unity&#8221; , Distant events in Turkey had impact in India in first part of last century. The Indian National Congress accomodated most of those demands. Good number of Muslims were there in Indian National Congress.</p>
<p>2- In the middle of last century, with british support,  muslim brotherhood was taken in form of partition of India. Its leader was not a devout muslim. But this thing degenerated into one of the worst and less spoken violence of last century. Hindus got cleaned from land of Pure ( That is the meaning of Pakisthan), and gradually from Bangladesh. </p>
<p>3- In 1990s hindus again got cleaned up from Kashmir, where  they stayed with muslims since the time muslims invaded it hundreds of years ago. Pakisthanis  created these terror camps and sent them to India. It is the same Lakshar that had sent the terrorists to Mumbai . In kashmir they performed cruel attacks on the villagers, it killed them like animals.It also conducted  daredevil attacks and engaged the security forces.</p>
<p>  In the intervening decades, India had fought two major wars  with Pakisthan.</p>
<p>4- When the then USA president Mr Clinton visited India, these Lakshars were dressed in Army fatigue and massacred an entire sikh village in the darkness of night. Then they spread the rumor that Indian Army has massacred sikhs also !! Fortunately Mr Clinton saw through it, President Clinton had condemned the terrorists.</p>
<p>5- The muslim brotherhood of Pakisthan didn&#8217;t work, it was split into two after dissatisfaction and atrocities in east pakisthan. </p>
<p>   Pakisthan see the ummah or muslim brotherhood, and its power brokers managed to rule that country by selling this premise. India essentially says that brotherhood logic is internal to Pakisthan&#8217;s ideology.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/28/mumbai-update-and-observations/#comment-1065937</link>
		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, the Pakisthani ISI who butchered the hindus in Kashmir by invoking the islamic nation are real good guys . Then that is only once province.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, the Pakisthani ISI who butchered the hindus in Kashmir by invoking the islamic nation are real good guys . Then that is only once province.</p>
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		<title>By: pm317</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/28/mumbai-update-and-observations/#comment-1065711</link>
		<dc:creator>pm317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 06:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I see his Muslim heritage as more of a hindrance to solve this Islamic terrorists problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I see his Muslim heritage as more of a hindrance to solve this Islamic terrorists problem.</p>
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		<title>By: pm317</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/28/mumbai-update-and-observations/#comment-1065701</link>
		<dc:creator>pm317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 06:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did too off and on while reading different articles. A 30 year old commando/NSG Major, the only son from my hometown of Bangalore was hard. Looking at some of those gruesome pictures at www.boston.com was also difficult. How can we not go after those bastards? 7 of them were born and raised in UK. What the hell is going on there? What the hell is going on in Pakistan?  The world community including all those Islamic countries have to come together and devise an original solution to this and get rid of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did too off and on while reading different articles. A 30 year old commando/NSG Major, the only son from my hometown of Bangalore was hard. Looking at some of those gruesome pictures at <a href="http://www.boston.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com</a> was also difficult. How can we not go after those bastards? 7 of them were born and raised in UK. What the hell is going on there? What the hell is going on in Pakistan?  The world community including all those Islamic countries have to come together and devise an original solution to this and get rid of this.</p>
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		<title>By: pm317</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/28/mumbai-update-and-observations/#comment-1065683</link>
		<dc:creator>pm317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My brother was a physicist for a number of years there. Only today we&#039;re talking about how close it was to everything else that is going on there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brother was a physicist for a number of years there. Only today we&#8217;re talking about how close it was to everything else that is going on there.</p>
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		<title>By: pm317</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/28/mumbai-update-and-observations/#comment-1065664</link>
		<dc:creator>pm317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in India for the first 23 years of my life and am well aware of its geopolitical history. First of all, my calling India good guys is valid to the extent that they are trying to make something of themselves and not supporting terrorists trying to blow up places elsewhere whereas Pakistan is forever in competition with India and fixated on Kashmir, not to mention its ISI financing the insurgents then and terrorists now. This Hindu nationalism is a reactionary development to the lengths Indian Govt has gone to accommodate the minority Muslims -- they even have their own law. I grew up in relatively peaceful times but the current younger generations resent all the concessions made to Muslims and their question is for what? Yet, I don&#039;t agree with all the Hindu fundamentalists nonsense -- that is a dangerous road to take. India is a secular nation and they have to preserve it as such if they want to avoid a conflagration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in India for the first 23 years of my life and am well aware of its geopolitical history. First of all, my calling India good guys is valid to the extent that they are trying to make something of themselves and not supporting terrorists trying to blow up places elsewhere whereas Pakistan is forever in competition with India and fixated on Kashmir, not to mention its ISI financing the insurgents then and terrorists now. This Hindu nationalism is a reactionary development to the lengths Indian Govt has gone to accommodate the minority Muslims &#8212; they even have their own law. I grew up in relatively peaceful times but the current younger generations resent all the concessions made to Muslims and their question is for what? Yet, I don&#8217;t agree with all the Hindu fundamentalists nonsense &#8212; that is a dangerous road to take. India is a secular nation and they have to preserve it as such if they want to avoid a conflagration.</p>
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		<title>By: erin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/28/mumbai-update-and-observations/#comment-1065399</link>
		<dc:creator>erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew there was a reason for visiting this site. It is to get a rational approach to political situations. Thank you Larry for sharing with us your obvious knowledge about terrorism. Your thoughts are obviously based on experience and I appreciate you willingness to let us benefit from them. I intend sending this article to others to enable them to have a better understanding of the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew there was a reason for visiting this site. It is to get a rational approach to political situations. Thank you Larry for sharing with us your obvious knowledge about terrorism. Your thoughts are obviously based on experience and I appreciate you willingness to let us benefit from them. I intend sending this article to others to enable them to have a better understanding of the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: NoBamaNoWay</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoBamaNoWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 00:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s what a lot of so-called &quot;progressives&quot; don&#039;t understand - &quot;moderate&quot; islam is worse than fundamentalist christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s what a lot of so-called &#8220;progressives&#8221; don&#8217;t understand &#8211; &#8220;moderate&#8221; islam is worse than fundamentalist christianity.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/28/mumbai-update-and-observations/#comment-1065224</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 00:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TIFR is the Tata Institute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TIFR is the Tata Institute.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/28/mumbai-update-and-observations/#comment-1065220</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 00:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LJ:

Thank you so much for this post. I wonder about Zardari (President of Pakistan) to be effective in verifying ISI really gets dismantled... He was (is?) quite corrupt when Benazir Butho (&quot;Mr 10%&quot;) was PM... What&#039;s your take of him in this regard?


Regarding your point 5 and some of the media hysteria, I want to share with you part of an email from a friend at the Tata Institute (Science Research center; researchers live there as well) which is in 
between 1 to 3 km from South Mumbai (where the attacks too place)

&lt;blockquote&gt; A curfew was imposed in this area for the past 36 hours to stay at home
and security has been stepped up at the Institute as well.  The situation
is far from over within the city, but TIFR and our housing colony are on
Naval Grounds and consequently, we are in a safe enclave.  The mounting
loss of life and damage to historical/heritage sites has been devastating
and it will be some time before the city recovers from this tragedy.
.....
I will leave you with a good image: while most of the academics and
students at TIFR have been milling about watching the community
television, generally unhappy while attempting to work in &quot;life as normal&quot;
mode, the most disciplined and dedicated staff have been those of the
canteen (cafeteria), who managed, even with the trains and buses stopped,
to arrive and serve us three full meals and three regular teatimes with
only an hour delay for breakfast.. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LJ:</p>
<p>Thank you so much for this post. I wonder about Zardari (President of Pakistan) to be effective in verifying ISI really gets dismantled&#8230; He was (is?) quite corrupt when Benazir Butho (&#8221;Mr 10%&#8221;) was PM&#8230; What&#8217;s your take of him in this regard?</p>
<p>Regarding your point 5 and some of the media hysteria, I want to share with you part of an email from a friend at the Tata Institute (Science Research center; researchers live there as well) which is in<br />
between 1 to 3 km from South Mumbai (where the attacks too place)</p>
<blockquote><p> A curfew was imposed in this area for the past 36 hours to stay at home<br />
and security has been stepped up at the Institute as well.  The situation<br />
is far from over within the city, but TIFR and our housing colony are on<br />
Naval Grounds and consequently, we are in a safe enclave.  The mounting<br />
loss of life and damage to historical/heritage sites has been devastating<br />
and it will be some time before the city recovers from this tragedy.<br />
&#8230;..<br />
I will leave you with a good image: while most of the academics and<br />
students at TIFR have been milling about watching the community<br />
television, generally unhappy while attempting to work in &#8220;life as normal&#8221;<br />
mode, the most disciplined and dedicated staff have been those of the<br />
canteen (cafeteria), who managed, even with the trains and buses stopped,<br />
to arrive and serve us three full meals and three regular teatimes with<br />
only an hour delay for breakfast.. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/28/mumbai-update-and-observations/#comment-1065148</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still laugh my ass off at &lt;strong&gt;Office of the President-Elect&lt;/strong&gt;. That One is one of the most self-absorbed excuses for a human being I&#039;ve ever had the misfortune to have run across. Is that office a water closet by chance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still laugh my ass off at <strong>Office of the President-Elect</strong>. That One is one of the most self-absorbed excuses for a human being I&#8217;ve ever had the misfortune to have run across. Is that office a water closet by chance?</p>
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		<title>By: imustprotest</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/28/mumbai-update-and-observations/#comment-1065136</link>
		<dc:creator>imustprotest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, just like a certain person sitting in the &quot;office of President select&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, just like a certain person sitting in the &#8220;office of President select&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: jbjd</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/28/mumbai-update-and-observations/#comment-1065126</link>
		<dc:creator>jbjd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all of you who posted your sarcastic comments to Larry&#039;s article, and symbolically patted each other on the back for your cleverness, rolling on the floor laughing:

I watched the news reports of the massacre in Mumbai while standing in line at the bank today, and burst into tears.

Different strokes for different folks. (Or maybe I fail to see the humor, because I am Jewish.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all of you who posted your sarcastic comments to Larry&#8217;s article, and symbolically patted each other on the back for your cleverness, rolling on the floor laughing:</p>
<p>I watched the news reports of the massacre in Mumbai while standing in line at the bank today, and burst into tears.</p>
<p>Different strokes for different folks. (Or maybe I fail to see the humor, because I am Jewish.)</p>
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