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		<title>By: The Medicare/Medicaid Fiasco : NO QUARTER</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1075850</link>
		<dc:creator>The Medicare/Medicaid Fiasco : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is the last of three installments in a series.  The other two, Healthcare Programs Need Immunization and The Bad Old Days ran here on NQ within the last week or so.  The opinions expressed here are [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Galt&#8217;s Pizza Parlor &#38; 24 Hour Diner: Observations on Blogging Communities, etc. : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>Galt&#8217;s Pizza Parlor &#38; 24 Hour Diner: Observations on Blogging Communities, etc. : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a series of comments from this thread: Healthcare Programs Need Immunization Comment by Galt &#124; 2008-11-29 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BernieO</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1067776</link>
		<dc:creator>BernieO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that any fraud government programs gets highlighted yet the rampant fraud in the private system, something we all pay for, too, gets ignored. Bias, anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that any fraud government programs gets highlighted yet the rampant fraud in the private system, something we all pay for, too, gets ignored. Bias, anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Justme</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1067125</link>
		<dc:creator>Justme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree I nearly died after transporting my hubby to the ER the cost on the ambulance was over the top we live less than half a mile everything was listed and billed for even the $4 for the rubber gloves...

Considering the Dr gave him different meds which caused the problem had I of known I could of taken him myself...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree I nearly died after transporting my hubby to the ER the cost on the ambulance was over the top we live less than half a mile everything was listed and billed for even the $4 for the rubber gloves&#8230;</p>
<p>Considering the Dr gave him different meds which caused the problem had I of known I could of taken him myself&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: csuzeq</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1067110</link>
		<dc:creator>csuzeq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because the insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies lose out with Universal Health care and they have made sure ever since the Clintons attempted to bring hope and change to American Healthcare to keep this from happening.  They loved Obama.  We will not get Universal Health care (which BTW is different than Universal Health Insurance-Clinton and Obamas plans were that) until we get a really strong leader who really wants to make America better even if the corporates get pissed off.

I just want to add that Universal Health Care is socialized medicine, but that term doesn't have to be a bad term.  I hate Michael Moore now, but as he puts it, it's no different than having the police, fire and public libraries.  Those are Government funded and run programs, too, and they are great!  Just imagine if you had to pay the fire department to come out to your house in a fire, instead of them just responding to all.  Fire and police only for those who could afford it?  That is a basic need, just like healthcare.  We should all have the healthcare we need.  All of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies lose out with Universal Health care and they have made sure ever since the Clintons attempted to bring hope and change to American Healthcare to keep this from happening.  They loved Obama.  We will not get Universal Health care (which BTW is different than Universal Health Insurance-Clinton and Obamas plans were that) until we get a really strong leader who really wants to make America better even if the corporates get pissed off.</p>
<p>I just want to add that Universal Health Care is socialized medicine, but that term doesn&#8217;t have to be a bad term.  I hate Michael Moore now, but as he puts it, it&#8217;s no different than having the police, fire and public libraries.  Those are Government funded and run programs, too, and they are great!  Just imagine if you had to pay the fire department to come out to your house in a fire, instead of them just responding to all.  Fire and police only for those who could afford it?  That is a basic need, just like healthcare.  We should all have the healthcare we need.  All of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Clara Barton</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1066568</link>
		<dc:creator>Clara Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are so many facets of our healthcare system that need restructure, I don't see how anyone can say "let's fix healthcare this year".  This is going to be a mammoth and years long change, if and when it is begun.  

Healthcare just isn't about finding a way to help poor people find insurance to go to the doctor.  What about our nursing crisis?  Nurses are the backbone of the healthcare delivery system but they are dropping in numbers, getting older, moving to more lucrative and less stressful employment.  Studies clearly show that patient outcomes are dependent upon quality and quantity of nursing care, and we're already experiencing serious shortages with worsening predictions down the road.

This is just one of the many tentacles of this healthcare monster that is out of control, but we're going to have to address each one.  There is no one package to fix "the healthcare crisis".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many facets of our healthcare system that need restructure, I don&#8217;t see how anyone can say &#8220;let&#8217;s fix healthcare this year&#8221;.  This is going to be a mammoth and years long change, if and when it is begun.  </p>
<p>Healthcare just isn&#8217;t about finding a way to help poor people find insurance to go to the doctor.  What about our nursing crisis?  Nurses are the backbone of the healthcare delivery system but they are dropping in numbers, getting older, moving to more lucrative and less stressful employment.  Studies clearly show that patient outcomes are dependent upon quality and quantity of nursing care, and we&#8217;re already experiencing serious shortages with worsening predictions down the road.</p>
<p>This is just one of the many tentacles of this healthcare monster that is out of control, but we&#8217;re going to have to address each one.  There is no one package to fix &#8220;the healthcare crisis&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Galt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Galt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like nasuS rescued my comment from the spam abyss. ;) Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like nasuS rescued my comment from the spam abyss. <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: justsome</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1066402</link>
		<dc:creator>justsome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nene, please understand I'm getting conflicting info fro SS higher ups, lawyers &amp; cpas, this isn't something i just dreamed up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nene, please understand I&#8217;m getting conflicting info fro SS higher ups, lawyers &amp; cpas, this isn&#8217;t something i just dreamed up</p>
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		<title>By: justsome</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1066398</link>
		<dc:creator>justsome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nene, Thanks for your input however I'm getting this info directly from SS higher ups....hope some else also has input...I'll keep checking back</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nene, Thanks for your input however I&#8217;m getting this info directly from SS higher ups&#8230;.hope some else also has input&#8230;I&#8217;ll keep checking back</p>
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		<title>By: Fran</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1066331</link>
		<dc:creator>Fran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: Preventive care and benefits -

My Dad has Medicare. So he is in an HMO. I was looking at his policy to see if he had certain benefits. Someone from Blue Cross had been in touch with him on it. Turns out the big new benefit is that they give you information on your condition. Less info than you could find on the internet or in the library! She had sent him a DVD. He does not even have a DVD player. I told the lady that I guess this is what the insurance company provides these days instead of actual services. And they call it a benefit. I also told her that the DVD she sent was really not helpful - it was more appropriate as a cursory overview for lower level HC workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: Preventive care and benefits -</p>
<p>My Dad has Medicare. So he is in an HMO. I was looking at his policy to see if he had certain benefits. Someone from Blue Cross had been in touch with him on it. Turns out the big new benefit is that they give you information on your condition. Less info than you could find on the internet or in the library! She had sent him a DVD. He does not even have a DVD player. I told the lady that I guess this is what the insurance company provides these days instead of actual services. And they call it a benefit. I also told her that the DVD she sent was really not helpful - it was more appropriate as a cursory overview for lower level HC workers.</p>
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		<title>By: Galt</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1066323</link>
		<dc:creator>Galt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted a reply, but the spam filter ate it. :( If you want email me for it. galtspizza AT gmail DOT com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted a reply, but the spam filter ate it. <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> If you want email me for it. galtspizza AT gmail DOT com</p>
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		<title>By: Galt</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1066316</link>
		<dc:creator>Galt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why thank you Choo Choo Magoo! I immersed myself in the campaign and have strayed away from where my inner voice tells me to be: working on long-term species survival and sustainability. Now that the campaign is over, I am returning to my passion: systemic change. All is not lost, I learned more about the bedrock problems from this election.

Sadly, we actually had a chance for wise stewardship towards sustainability and were robbed of it by the usual extremists who pretend to have all the answers then continue to raid the treasury of money and the "bank" of our hope, once they gain power. Elitists ideologues motivated by ego, lust for power and greed on the left and the right are killing us. I hope more people get off the damn treadmill and join me on what constantly gets ignored as people are sidetracked: curing the disease and not just treating the symptoms.

People are easily sidetracked by manipulators that present black and white only positions like pro-choice versus pro-life. Somewhere in the mix pro-solution and pro-compromise get lost. And then these manipulators profit from the division. Yes, people can actually start out sincere in their beliefs when they start an organization. But does anyone honestly think a large organization really wants solutions once they gain power from the division? Solutions equal loss of power and paycheck for these organizations.

I do not pretend to have the answers how even to achieve long-term sustainability and reform of the human spirit, but at least I recognize the problem and will nag the crap out of people until they at least spend some energy on these important issues! I'm looking for solutions, not more of the same. :mrgreen:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why thank you Choo Choo Magoo! I immersed myself in the campaign and have strayed away from where my inner voice tells me to be: working on long-term species survival and sustainability. Now that the campaign is over, I am returning to my passion: systemic change. All is not lost, I learned more about the bedrock problems from this election.</p>
<p>Sadly, we actually had a chance for wise stewardship towards sustainability and were robbed of it by the usual extremists who pretend to have all the answers then continue to raid the treasury of money and the &#8220;bank&#8221; of our hope, once they gain power. Elitists ideologues motivated by ego, lust for power and greed on the left and the right are killing us. I hope more people get off the damn treadmill and join me on what constantly gets ignored as people are sidetracked: curing the disease and not just treating the symptoms.</p>
<p>People are easily sidetracked by manipulators that present black and white only positions like pro-choice versus pro-life. Somewhere in the mix pro-solution and pro-compromise get lost. And then these manipulators profit from the division. Yes, people can actually start out sincere in their beliefs when they start an organization. But does anyone honestly think a large organization really wants solutions once they gain power from the division? Solutions equal loss of power and paycheck for these organizations.</p>
<p>I do not pretend to have the answers how even to achieve long-term sustainability and reform of the human spirit, but at least I recognize the problem and will nag the crap out of people until they at least spend some energy on these important issues! I&#8217;m looking for solutions, not more of the same. <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Fran</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1066306</link>
		<dc:creator>Fran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes. The care is very uneven - some excessive, some inadequate. It has long seemed to me (and I worked in HC also) that the people in the middle were the worst off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes. The care is very uneven - some excessive, some inadequate. It has long seemed to me (and I worked in HC also) that the people in the middle were the worst off.</p>
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		<title>By: nene</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1066302</link>
		<dc:creator>nene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe a 401(k) has to be rolled over into an IRA when employment is terminated or retirement.  Ordinary IRA withdrawals are taxable income(because the funds were initially not taxed), but the assumption is that in retirement, income will be lower, thus the tax bill will also be lower.  Couples/individuals over age 55 may take advantage of a capital gains tax break on the sale of a house &lt;em&gt;once&lt;/em&gt;.

Medicare Part B payments are deducted directly from SS payments and are a percentage of the SS payment.  Other income has nothing to do with Medicare once you are retired and receiving SS/Medicare benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe a 401(k) has to be rolled over into an IRA when employment is terminated or retirement.  Ordinary IRA withdrawals are taxable income(because the funds were initially not taxed), but the assumption is that in retirement, income will be lower, thus the tax bill will also be lower.  Couples/individuals over age 55 may take advantage of a capital gains tax break on the sale of a house <em>once</em>.</p>
<p>Medicare Part B payments are deducted directly from SS payments and are a percentage of the SS payment.  Other income has nothing to do with Medicare once you are retired and receiving SS/Medicare benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: justsome</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1066275</link>
		<dc:creator>justsome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, the incremental increase in the Medicare part B payment takes effect the year following the "windfall" &amp; is calculated by your tax return...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, the incremental increase in the Medicare part B payment takes effect the year following the &#8220;windfall&#8221; &amp; is calculated by your tax return&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: justsome</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1066270</link>
		<dc:creator>justsome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been given 2 different interpretations of a Medicare issue;  does anyone have any experience with this? Background: aledgedly married couples may make up to 160K annually in a "windfall profit" without incurring incremental increaseses in their Medicare part B payments, single people may only make up to 80K in "windfall profit" without incurring "windfall profit" increases on their part B payment. Supposedly this "windfall increase" refers to withdrawing funds from IRAs, 401Ks, surrendering annuities or other insurance products, selling a home or other property, etc. Those who contend this is the rule can't/won't site a specific law &amp; say only, "the law changed a few years ago". The professionals on the other side of the debate stick steadfastly to their position that the above streams of revenue are not 1040 income &amp; are irrelevant to the issue. Who is correct. (no moralizing please)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been given 2 different interpretations of a Medicare issue;  does anyone have any experience with this? Background: aledgedly married couples may make up to 160K annually in a &#8220;windfall profit&#8221; without incurring incremental increaseses in their Medicare part B payments, single people may only make up to 80K in &#8220;windfall profit&#8221; without incurring &#8220;windfall profit&#8221; increases on their part B payment. Supposedly this &#8220;windfall increase&#8221; refers to withdrawing funds from IRAs, 401Ks, surrendering annuities or other insurance products, selling a home or other property, etc. Those who contend this is the rule can&#8217;t/won&#8217;t site a specific law &amp; say only, &#8220;the law changed a few years ago&#8221;. The professionals on the other side of the debate stick steadfastly to their position that the above streams of revenue are not 1040 income &amp; are irrelevant to the issue. Who is correct. (no moralizing please)</p>
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		<title>By: Choo Choo Magoo</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1066255</link>
		<dc:creator>Choo Choo Magoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve in KC - Thanks for the article.  I look forward to the next installment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve in KC - Thanks for the article.  I look forward to the next installment.</p>
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		<title>By: benny</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1066250</link>
		<dc:creator>benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as I stated in the post, I understand the reasonings of both sides of the aisle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as I stated in the post, I understand the reasonings of both sides of the aisle.</p>
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		<title>By: Choo Choo Magoo</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1066246</link>
		<dc:creator>Choo Choo Magoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!!</description>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Kay</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/healthcare-programs-need-immunization/#comment-1066245</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can't afford NOT to have single payer health insurance right now.  It would &lt;a href="http://correntewire.com/how_hr_676_saves_350_billion_a_year_and_saves_the_auto_industry_too" rel="nofollow"&gt;save the country $350 billion a year&lt;/a&gt; overall, and we'll need every penny we can scrape up to pull the Masters of the Universe out of the hole they have dug for all of us.

Of course, we'd have to find work for all the insurance company clerks whose job it has been to deny coverage and deny claims, but maybe we could put them to work as hall monitors in the George W. Bush Presidential Library. 

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can&#8217;t afford NOT to have single payer health insurance right now.  It would <a href="http://correntewire.com/how_hr_676_saves_350_billion_a_year_and_saves_the_auto_industry_too" rel="nofollow">save the country $350 billion a year</a> overall, and we&#8217;ll need every penny we can scrape up to pull the Masters of the Universe out of the hole they have dug for all of us.</p>
<p>Of course, we&#8217;d have to find work for all the insurance company clerks whose job it has been to deny coverage and deny claims, but maybe we could put them to work as hall monitors in the George W. Bush Presidential Library. </p>
<p>Carolyn Kay<br />
MakeThemAccountable.com</p>
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