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		<title>By: Anomaly News Syndicate &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Meaning of Mumbai - by Justin Raimondo</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1083588</link>
		<dc:creator>Anomaly News Syndicate &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Meaning of Mumbai - by Justin Raimondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] responsibility for the Mumbai horror, we enter a world of murky ambivalence. Lashkar-e-Taiba is said to be affiliated, in some vague way, with &#8220;rogue&#8221; elements of Pakistani intelligence, which [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] responsibility for the Mumbai horror, we enter a world of murky ambivalence. Lashkar-e-Taiba is said to be affiliated, in some vague way, with &#8220;rogue&#8221; elements of Pakistani intelligence, which [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a chain, India wouldn't do it because China has it. China wouldn't give up because US has it. It's not as easy as we think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a chain, India wouldn&#8217;t do it because China has it. China wouldn&#8217;t give up because US has it. It&#8217;s not as easy as we think.</p>
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		<title>By: The Meaning of Mumbai &#124; New World Order Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1074129</link>
		<dc:creator>The Meaning of Mumbai &#124; New World Order Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] responsibility for the Mumbai horror, we enter a world of murky ambivalence. Lashkar-e-Taiba is said to be affiliated, in some vague way, with &#34;rogue&#34; elements of Pakistani intelligence, which is, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] responsibility for the Mumbai horror, we enter a world of murky ambivalence. Lashkar-e-Taiba is said to be affiliated, in some vague way, with &quot;rogue&quot; elements of Pakistani intelligence, which is, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1067897</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok.  Thanks,   Justme.   I  hadn't  read  that.  

Appreciate  the info.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok.  Thanks,   Justme.   I  hadn&#8217;t  read  that.  </p>
<p>Appreciate  the info.  <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1067890</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Missy?????

Take  a  nap,   Ferd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missy?????</p>
<p>Take  a  nap,   Ferd.</p>
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		<title>By: BernieO</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1067754</link>
		<dc:creator>BernieO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ferdd, just talked to the Farkles and they say they haven't heard from you in awhile. Is your hair still red?(How many people have a clue what this means? Probably no one under 50.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ferdd, just talked to the Farkles and they say they haven&#8217;t heard from you in awhile. Is your hair still red?(How many people have a clue what this means? Probably no one under 50.)</p>
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		<title>By: Cubs in 09</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1066690</link>
		<dc:creator>Cubs in 09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! :mad:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':mad:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: R2D2</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1066671</link>
		<dc:creator>R2D2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't discount ISI involvement, but I would like hard evidence.  It's in India's benefit to point the finger at Pakistan and dismiss its own groups, and thereby dismiss it's Kashmir problem.  Pakistanis extremists will continue to exploit the situation because the Kashmiris will turn to those who help them, as it was done during the US Revolution by the French</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t discount ISI involvement, but I would like hard evidence.  It&#8217;s in India&#8217;s benefit to point the finger at Pakistan and dismiss its own groups, and thereby dismiss it&#8217;s Kashmir problem.  Pakistanis extremists will continue to exploit the situation because the Kashmiris will turn to those who help them, as it was done during the US Revolution by the French</p>
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		<title>By: pm317</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1066546</link>
		<dc:creator>pm317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, my posts are getting caught in the spam filter -- we may be using some objectionable words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, my posts are getting caught in the spam filter &#8212; we may be using some objectionable words.</p>
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		<title>By: pm317</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1066543</link>
		<dc:creator>pm317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, try this: http://www.indianexpress.com/

I don't see that particular article on the main page anymore -- it said something about they came from the sea in its title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, try this: <a href="http://www.indianexpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.indianexpress.com/</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see that particular article on the main page anymore &#8212; it said something about they came from the sea in its title.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1066514</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just me I saw you comment down thread.

Hard to say if the "two gun men" where just posted at the back or they had spotters and comm's. 

Which I &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; REALLY curious about...

errr. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just me I saw you comment down thread.</p>
<p>Hard to say if the &#8220;two gun men&#8221; where just posted at the back or they had spotters and comm&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Which I <em>was</em> REALLY curious about&#8230;</p>
<p>errr. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1066511</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.poorrichardsalmanac.biz
VIDEO: ELITE INDIAN COMMANDOS TALK ABOUT ACTION!
ONLY 10 TERRORISTS!
TRAINED BY PAK ISI!
WATCH LIVE INDIAN TV!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.poorrichardsalmanac.biz" rel="nofollow">http://www.poorrichardsalmanac.biz</a><br />
VIDEO: ELITE INDIAN COMMANDOS TALK ABOUT ACTION!<br />
ONLY 10 TERRORISTS!<br />
TRAINED BY PAK ISI!<br />
WATCH LIVE INDIAN TV!</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1066495</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Pm317,

Where did you see the report of;

 &lt;em&gt;"the terrorist hijacked an Indian trawler to get near the shore."&lt;/em&gt;

? Link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Pm317,</p>
<p>Where did you see the report of;</p>
<p> <em>&#8220;the terrorist hijacked an Indian trawler to get near the shore.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>? Link.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1066493</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, missy, I don't have to read about what I lived through. You really need to get a grip. I don't think you were even alive when I served, now were you? And if you were, 30 years is a long time for you to continue to hold a grudge against Carter for a mistake that was all part of the Cold War, which started with Truman and continued uninterrupted through 1991 and Bush I.

And yet you still didn't answer my original question just like every other anal-retentive bot who is called on their BS.

Try again to answer what I asked in the first place or just dry up. One or the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, missy, I don&#8217;t have to read about what I lived through. You really need to get a grip. I don&#8217;t think you were even alive when I served, now were you? And if you were, 30 years is a long time for you to continue to hold a grudge against Carter for a mistake that was all part of the Cold War, which started with Truman and continued uninterrupted through 1991 and Bush I.</p>
<p>And yet you still didn&#8217;t answer my original question just like every other anal-retentive bot who is called on their BS.</p>
<p>Try again to answer what I asked in the first place or just dry up. One or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: pm317</title>
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		<dc:creator>pm317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read your blog and I agree with what you say here to that Pakistani blogger:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
# Stop obsessing about India. We have left your country in the dust in every respect because for all our mistakes, we kept inching forward. Go rebuild. You owe it to yourself.
# If you are so concerned about the fate of Muslims in India, give them an offer to live in Pakistan and adopt them all. And I bet you this, there will be no takers. And guess what? you are not interested either. Stop pretending that you care about the Muslims in India.
# Pressure your Government to hand over those who are roaming freely in Pakistan after committing atrocious acts on Indian soil. Stop harbouring terrorists who are killing all over the world. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I also agree with you that calling this homegrown is ludicrous. The scale and sophistication and not to mention the destruction, all of which indicates big finances and groups like Lashkar and Al Queda. Some Muslims outside the US thought 9/11 was an internal/homegrown attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read your blog and I agree with what you say here to that Pakistani blogger:</p>
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# Stop obsessing about India. We have left your country in the dust in every respect because for all our mistakes, we kept inching forward. Go rebuild. You owe it to yourself.<br />
# If you are so concerned about the fate of Muslims in India, give them an offer to live in Pakistan and adopt them all. And I bet you this, there will be no takers. And guess what? you are not interested either. Stop pretending that you care about the Muslims in India.<br />
# Pressure your Government to hand over those who are roaming freely in Pakistan after committing atrocious acts on Indian soil. Stop harbouring terrorists who are killing all over the world.
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<p>I also agree with you that calling this homegrown is ludicrous. The scale and sophistication and not to mention the destruction, all of which indicates big finances and groups like Lashkar and Al Queda. Some Muslims outside the US thought 9/11 was an internal/homegrown attack.</p>
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		<title>By: JozefAL</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1066471</link>
		<dc:creator>JozefAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deb, considering the fact that terrorists were operating in far more areas of the world than just India or the Middle East, the "others terrorists are not our terrorists" is a VERY accurate statement.
Where was the US when London offices were being bombed by the IRA?  When Madrid and Barcelona were targets of ETA?  When the Rosse Brigate kidnapped and killed Aldo Moro?  When Aum Shin Rikyoo released sarin gas in Tokyo?  When Jewish terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in the 1940s in the cause of a Jewish homeland?
The whole "global war on terrorism" has been EXCLUSIVELY an American "war" as though ONLY the US had ever been attacked.  Hell, Dubya even invoked the NATO charter--something that not even our NATO allies, UK, Germany and Italy, had done when THEY were faced with terrorist groups.
Until US interests were DIRECTLY attacked, the US paid little heed.  Hell, I'll go so far as to say it:  Until 9/11, the US paid almost no attention to terrorist actions EVEN WHEN THEY TOOK PLACE ON U S SOIL.  The early 1970s saw attacks on a Turkish consulate in LA, with the US taking no more official action than it would had an American citizen been mugged in London.  Hell, the Klan used terrorist tactics against Blacks during the Civil Rights struggle (bombing churches and Black ministers' homes) but, for nearly a decade, very little was really done.  Until the Att'y General stepped in and turned the actions into "violations of civil rights", absolutely nothing was done to hold the perpetrators accountable for their deeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb, considering the fact that terrorists were operating in far more areas of the world than just India or the Middle East, the &#8220;others terrorists are not our terrorists&#8221; is a VERY accurate statement.<br />
Where was the US when London offices were being bombed by the IRA?  When Madrid and Barcelona were targets of ETA?  When the Rosse Brigate kidnapped and killed Aldo Moro?  When Aum Shin Rikyoo released sarin gas in Tokyo?  When Jewish terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in the 1940s in the cause of a Jewish homeland?<br />
The whole &#8220;global war on terrorism&#8221; has been EXCLUSIVELY an American &#8220;war&#8221; as though ONLY the US had ever been attacked.  Hell, Dubya even invoked the NATO charter&#8211;something that not even our NATO allies, UK, Germany and Italy, had done when THEY were faced with terrorist groups.<br />
Until US interests were DIRECTLY attacked, the US paid little heed.  Hell, I&#8217;ll go so far as to say it:  Until 9/11, the US paid almost no attention to terrorist actions EVEN WHEN THEY TOOK PLACE ON U S SOIL.  The early 1970s saw attacks on a Turkish consulate in LA, with the US taking no more official action than it would had an American citizen been mugged in London.  Hell, the Klan used terrorist tactics against Blacks during the Civil Rights struggle (bombing churches and Black ministers&#8217; homes) but, for nearly a decade, very little was really done.  Until the Att&#8217;y General stepped in and turned the actions into &#8220;violations of civil rights&#8221;, absolutely nothing was done to hold the perpetrators accountable for their deeds.</p>
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		<title>By: pm317</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1066468</link>
		<dc:creator>pm317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that Karkare and his cohorts underestimated the scale of this in their response. I feel deeply sad about that young NSG Major who died in the Taj too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that Karkare and his cohorts underestimated the scale of this in their response. I feel deeply sad about that young NSG Major who died in the Taj too.</p>
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		<title>By: The Comic Project</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1066465</link>
		<dc:creator>The Comic Project</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, very thoughtful post. Pakistan, whether it was involved this time or not, has always managed to get away due to some excellent PR. It seemed to be doing so yesterday at a press conference in India. And bloggers from Pakistan are spreading the meme that it is "homegrown indian terrorism due to injustice on Muslims". While we have f**ked up as Indians, we understand that and keep working on it. 

One Pakistani blogger tried to spread that on my blog and I responded at 
http://thecomicproject.blogspot.com/2008/11/mumbai-attacked-message-to-pakistani.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, very thoughtful post. Pakistan, whether it was involved this time or not, has always managed to get away due to some excellent PR. It seemed to be doing so yesterday at a press conference in India. And bloggers from Pakistan are spreading the meme that it is &#8220;homegrown indian terrorism due to injustice on Muslims&#8221;. While we have f**ked up as Indians, we understand that and keep working on it. </p>
<p>One Pakistani blogger tried to spread that on my blog and I responded at<br />
<a href="http://thecomicproject.blogspot.com/2008/11/mumbai-attacked-message-to-pakistani.html" rel="nofollow">http://thecomicproject.blogspot.com/2008/11/mumbai-attacked-message-to-pakistani.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Justme</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1066461</link>
		<dc:creator>Justme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I have not heard what the circumstances around the death of Hemant Karkare, the chief of Mumbai’s Anti-Terrorist Squad were. Which I REALLY curious about.&lt;/strong&gt;


These 3 officials when alerted all jumped into the same car heading for the hospital that was under attack when they arrived around the back of the building 2 gun men ran out and shot all 3

They were stating they should of all taken 3 different vehicles to move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I have not heard what the circumstances around the death of Hemant Karkare, the chief of Mumbai’s Anti-Terrorist Squad were. Which I REALLY curious about.</strong></p>
<p>These 3 officials when alerted all jumped into the same car heading for the hospital that was under attack when they arrived around the back of the building 2 gun men ran out and shot all 3</p>
<p>They were stating they should of all taken 3 different vehicles to move.</p>
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		<title>By: benny</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/29/isi-goes-rogue/#comment-1066460</link>
		<dc:creator>benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karkare died on the first day of the attack. At that time, info was unclear. There was a report that certain murderers had entered the hotel, and were threatening people. He never knew that it was hard-core terrorists. As a basic cop, he went to the hotel relying on the belief that these were simple murderers, and not terrorists. Thats why he died on the very first night from terrorist bullets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karkare died on the first day of the attack. At that time, info was unclear. There was a report that certain murderers had entered the hotel, and were threatening people. He never knew that it was hard-core terrorists. As a basic cop, he went to the hotel relying on the belief that these were simple murderers, and not terrorists. Thats why he died on the very first night from terrorist bullets.</p>
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