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		<title>By: alan</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/02/cheaters-never-prosper/#comment-1266602</link>
		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottom line Obama SUCKS</description>
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		<title>By: JGalt</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/02/cheaters-never-prosper/#comment-1076898</link>
		<dc:creator>JGalt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/

Another one of many erudite articles debunking global warming.</description>
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<p>Another one of many erudite articles debunking global warming.</p>
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		<title>By: JGalt</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/02/cheaters-never-prosper/#comment-1074818</link>
		<dc:creator>JGalt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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Just one more article from today!</description>
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<p>Just one more article from today!</p>
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		<title>By: rolling_thunder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/02/cheaters-never-prosper/#comment-1074789</link>
		<dc:creator>rolling_thunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for changing the voting age back to 21 too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for changing the voting age back to 21 too.</p>
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		<title>By: rolling_thunder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/02/cheaters-never-prosper/#comment-1074786</link>
		<dc:creator>rolling_thunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary didn&#039;t cheat and she won the primary only to be stolen from her right in fornt of our eyes!</description>
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		<title>By: JGalt</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/02/cheaters-never-prosper/#comment-1074779</link>
		<dc:creator>JGalt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point is not the affair, although I resent him having it in the oval office and not taking phone calls from our generals because he was engaged.

Point is lying under oath, repeatedly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point is not the affair, although I resent him having it in the oval office and not taking phone calls from our generals because he was engaged.</p>
<p>Point is lying under oath, repeatedly.</p>
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		<title>By: JGalt</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/02/cheaters-never-prosper/#comment-1074776</link>
		<dc:creator>JGalt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it assuredly is. 
http://www.gazette.com/opinion/global_44177___article.html/warming_temperatures.html

This is only one of many articles. Most mainstream scientists have been saying for years that the theory didn&#039;t make sense and didn&#039;t match the facts in the real world. For the last two years temperatures have decreased and temperatures have not risen for several years before that. This is a pseudo crisis which threatens to ruin the global economy and the measures proposed will not work and will disproportionally effect the poor. The ethanol mandates alone have had a staggering effect on the world&#039;s food supply. The global warming gurus are spinning as fast as they can but they have been caught falsifying data, lying about it and making up events to try and explain away their mistakes, such as record hot temperatures that never occurred. Time to get quietly off that bus. If we have global cooling and the next mini ice age as most mainstream scientists predict we will need the greenhouse gases as a blanket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it assuredly is.<br />
<a href="http://www.gazette.com/opinion/global_44177___article.html/warming_temperatures.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gazette.com/opinion/global_44177___article.html/warming_temperatures.html</a></p>
<p>This is only one of many articles. Most mainstream scientists have been saying for years that the theory didn&#8217;t make sense and didn&#8217;t match the facts in the real world. For the last two years temperatures have decreased and temperatures have not risen for several years before that. This is a pseudo crisis which threatens to ruin the global economy and the measures proposed will not work and will disproportionally effect the poor. The ethanol mandates alone have had a staggering effect on the world&#8217;s food supply. The global warming gurus are spinning as fast as they can but they have been caught falsifying data, lying about it and making up events to try and explain away their mistakes, such as record hot temperatures that never occurred. Time to get quietly off that bus. If we have global cooling and the next mini ice age as most mainstream scientists predict we will need the greenhouse gases as a blanket.</p>
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		<title>By: workingclass artist</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/02/cheaters-never-prosper/#comment-1073902</link>
		<dc:creator>workingclass artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I think it&#039;s hard to cheat in the Visual &amp; performing Arts like that...It&#039;s pretty obvious because you are called upon to perform. My kid who got scholarships had to AUDITION...Kids who submit portfolios rely on references from teachers which are given equal weight to portfolio and rarely will a  teacher put their reputation on the line for someone they suspect of cheating...Art teachers at that level know the difference and faculty at that college level can be BRUTAL...I know as a former student and a part time foundations professor...you can always tell cause it is very obvious...A kid can either back it up or not and every artist has signature traits that can be seen in the work. Besides...Most students get help from their teachers to apply...Like helping them select the portfolio...I&#039;m just sayin&#039;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I think it&#8217;s hard to cheat in the Visual &amp; performing Arts like that&#8230;It&#8217;s pretty obvious because you are called upon to perform. My kid who got scholarships had to AUDITION&#8230;Kids who submit portfolios rely on references from teachers which are given equal weight to portfolio and rarely will a  teacher put their reputation on the line for someone they suspect of cheating&#8230;Art teachers at that level know the difference and faculty at that college level can be BRUTAL&#8230;I know as a former student and a part time foundations professor&#8230;you can always tell cause it is very obvious&#8230;A kid can either back it up or not and every artist has signature traits that can be seen in the work. Besides&#8230;Most students get help from their teachers to apply&#8230;Like helping them select the portfolio&#8230;I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;</strong></p>
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		<title>By: LV</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/02/cheaters-never-prosper/#comment-1073878</link>
		<dc:creator>LV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>***Well, what happens if their entire portfolio is made up of ideas and concepts stolen from other students, and their kid gets an art scholarship based on his/her portfolio? How does that NOT hurt the other kids trying to get the same scholarship?***
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You are so right. 

This is a real problem, here in the UK at least - not only do kids plagiarise work AT college, they plagiarise material for their applications to get into college in the first place! Downloading personal statements for college applications from the internet is so common, that the central office that oversees the applications process nationally is having to institute automatic checking of all personal statements. However, when students are found to have cheated on their applications after starting their courses, are they thrown out? No - so where is the incentive to do it the right way??

And even when students aren&#039;t actually cheating, there is a worrying laziness. A good friend who&#039;s an English Lit professor, tells me she has had to remove longer texts from the syllabus because most of the kids simply refuse to read them. Kids coming to college supposedly to further their interest in literature, refusing to follow their professors&#039; guidance in what constitutes great literature - because they can&#039;t be bothered to spend a few hours reading. It defies belief. Where is the intellectual curiosity? The respect for knowledge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***Well, what happens if their entire portfolio is made up of ideas and concepts stolen from other students, and their kid gets an art scholarship based on his/her portfolio? How does that NOT hurt the other kids trying to get the same scholarship?***<br />
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<p>You are so right. </p>
<p>This is a real problem, here in the UK at least &#8211; not only do kids plagiarise work AT college, they plagiarise material for their applications to get into college in the first place! Downloading personal statements for college applications from the internet is so common, that the central office that oversees the applications process nationally is having to institute automatic checking of all personal statements. However, when students are found to have cheated on their applications after starting their courses, are they thrown out? No &#8211; so where is the incentive to do it the right way??</p>
<p>And even when students aren&#8217;t actually cheating, there is a worrying laziness. A good friend who&#8217;s an English Lit professor, tells me she has had to remove longer texts from the syllabus because most of the kids simply refuse to read them. Kids coming to college supposedly to further their interest in literature, refusing to follow their professors&#8217; guidance in what constitutes great literature &#8211; because they can&#8217;t be bothered to spend a few hours reading. It defies belief. Where is the intellectual curiosity? The respect for knowledge?</p>
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		<title>By: John House</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/02/cheaters-never-prosper/#comment-1073690</link>
		<dc:creator>John House</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we were separate at birth, because this sounds like something I would&#039;ve written.

I don&#039;t think people can fully appreciate the ire that comes with the disdain for plagiarism unless someone has experienced it committed upon their own person, which is why people are so arrogant and dismissive when it comes to plagiarism.  Plagiarism is the reason we have laws about it, about copyright and about trademarks.  When someone creates an original work, it should be THEIRS.

Working in the arts community I can attest to this.  People have plagiarized my work and when caught, it is NOT pretty.  I&#039;ve also caught others at plagiarism, and when THAT happens, it&#039;s not pretty.  In at least two writing and arts communities, I was known to catch people for stealing others&#039; works;  in both instances, the people were reprimanded (both kicked off the sites) because the work entailed money exchanging hands.  You can&#039;t sit there and STEAL other peoples&#039; ideas and claim them as your own and make money off of it.  It just doesn&#039;t work that way in the real world.

I read a lot of comments about the parents above who don&#039;t care if their kid cheats/plagiarizes.  Well, what happens if their entire portfolio is made up of ideas and concepts stolen from other students, and their kid gets an art scholarship based on his/her portfolio?  How does that NOT hurt the other kids trying to get the same scholarship?  As well, what if it happened in the professional world?  Lawsuits would be flying, and THEN OH NO!  Said thief would be paying out the nose.

Cheating does no one any good.  Do you own damned work, people!  It&#039;s the only way creativity advances.  It stays mired in a recycling of ideas if people just skim off of other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we were separate at birth, because this sounds like something I would&#8217;ve written.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think people can fully appreciate the ire that comes with the disdain for plagiarism unless someone has experienced it committed upon their own person, which is why people are so arrogant and dismissive when it comes to plagiarism.  Plagiarism is the reason we have laws about it, about copyright and about trademarks.  When someone creates an original work, it should be THEIRS.</p>
<p>Working in the arts community I can attest to this.  People have plagiarized my work and when caught, it is NOT pretty.  I&#8217;ve also caught others at plagiarism, and when THAT happens, it&#8217;s not pretty.  In at least two writing and arts communities, I was known to catch people for stealing others&#8217; works;  in both instances, the people were reprimanded (both kicked off the sites) because the work entailed money exchanging hands.  You can&#8217;t sit there and STEAL other peoples&#8217; ideas and claim them as your own and make money off of it.  It just doesn&#8217;t work that way in the real world.</p>
<p>I read a lot of comments about the parents above who don&#8217;t care if their kid cheats/plagiarizes.  Well, what happens if their entire portfolio is made up of ideas and concepts stolen from other students, and their kid gets an art scholarship based on his/her portfolio?  How does that NOT hurt the other kids trying to get the same scholarship?  As well, what if it happened in the professional world?  Lawsuits would be flying, and THEN OH NO!  Said thief would be paying out the nose.</p>
<p>Cheating does no one any good.  Do you own damned work, people!  It&#8217;s the only way creativity advances.  It stays mired in a recycling of ideas if people just skim off of other people.</p>
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		<title>By: Snickers</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/02/cheaters-never-prosper/#comment-1073553</link>
		<dc:creator>Snickers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely article RRRAmy!  You know I also think integrity and honor are learned from films/television/books.  I grew up in the age of Father Knows Best, Donna Reed, Leave It To Beaver, Fury, Roy Rogers, etc. etc., and there were always consequences if you lied or cheated or stole.  It became an engrained way of being because it was role modeled in everything I read and watched.  It was reinforced at school and my parents always had their little favorite which I&#039;m sure most parents used:  If everyone jumped off the roof would you jump off too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely article RRRAmy!  You know I also think integrity and honor are learned from films/television/books.  I grew up in the age of Father Knows Best, Donna Reed, Leave It To Beaver, Fury, Roy Rogers, etc. etc., and there were always consequences if you lied or cheated or stole.  It became an engrained way of being because it was role modeled in everything I read and watched.  It was reinforced at school and my parents always had their little favorite which I&#8217;m sure most parents used:  If everyone jumped off the roof would you jump off too?</p>
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		<title>By: Snickers</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/02/cheaters-never-prosper/#comment-1073550</link>
		<dc:creator>Snickers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JGalt,
Who is John Galt.</description>
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Who is John Galt.</p>
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		<title>By: Snickers</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/02/cheaters-never-prosper/#comment-1073549</link>
		<dc:creator>Snickers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And global warming is not a fake crisis.</description>
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		<title>By: Strawberrybitch</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/02/cheaters-never-prosper/#comment-1073356</link>
		<dc:creator>Strawberrybitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you talking about? Bush 1 was having a long term affair but he was never raked across the coals like Bill was. And just for giggles google up Jeff Gannon aka James Guckert or Militarystud.com.  Why haven&#039;t you heard about him? Your sex life is not my business nor is Bill&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you talking about? Bush 1 was having a long term affair but he was never raked across the coals like Bill was. And just for giggles google up Jeff Gannon aka James Guckert or Militarystud.com.  Why haven&#8217;t you heard about him? Your sex life is not my business nor is Bill&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: trixta</title>
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		<dc:creator>trixta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bill lied about sex; GWB stole our democracy.  Obama is the sequel to GWB.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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