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Axelrod on video: Obama talked to Governor Blecky about his replacement

[See earlier story that proves that Obama DID talk to Blagojevich about the job.]

Barack Obama stated earlier today that he never spoke to Governor Blagojevich AKA “Bleck” about his replacement.

“I had no contact with the Governor”.

Here’s Dave Axelrod discussing a few weeks ago how Obama discussed his replacement with the Governor. View it while you can before Google yanks it.

Obama’s answer? His campaign issued a statement saying

“Axerod Mis-spoke”.

All Righty Then. That settles it. I believe Obama, don’t you? And the fork ran away with the spoon.

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Comment by ford | 2008-12-09 18:39:44

I like to debate this more, but my unicorn ran away with a flying pig.

Comment by catherine | 2008-12-09 19:34:15

Comment by Kal | 2008-12-09 20:03:49

Deliberately OT:

Marist poll shows CKennedy and Cuomo tied 25%@ in poll of NYers re senate appointment.

I’m going to guess that BO might use the Blag duststorm to do his own dirty deal re Hillary’s senate spot. That issue has been eclipsed by the Blag story today, that’s for sure. But it does not sound like CK is going to stand down, seems to feel entitled to be not qualified for this. Maybe her kids convinced her she is qualified.

PUMA!!!

 
 

Comment by jbjd | 2008-12-09 20:18:36

I saw it! I saw it!

 
 

Comment by tillthen | 2008-12-09 18:40:38

What is with Google? Are they tied to commies and terrorists or foreign governments? MG, that is scary. Those aholes are now off my computer.

Comment by Pennsylvania Red | 2008-12-09 18:53:31

Here is an article about Google and some alternate search engines: google hides behind invisibility cloak
I believe some of the comments allude to what you posted.

(warning about the link, it’s to Lucianne, it’s a red meat winger site. But the Google info is good)

Comment by Fancy | 2008-12-09 19:30:06

Google shouldn’t have a monopoly, anyway.

Why haven’t the other search engines stayed current?

Google is stale, creating it’s own information bubble, reinforcing the same results, over and over, “bababooie” thinks it has power, and gives the world Obama.

Aren’t we lucky?

( I just can’t help but think the whole “boy band” thing backing Obama is no more culturally and/or politically sophisticated, (despite the money) in the end, than Howard Stern’s old sidekick - Google was/is a big Obama supporter, part of the whole San Francisco/Silicone Valley group, right?)

Comment by Ferd Berfle | 2008-12-09 19:35:10

Try Alltheweb.com. It is clean, fast, and doesn’t have the ads. I don’t use google.

Comment by Fancy | 2008-12-09 19:42:07

I will, thanks.

I’ve been using various ones, here and there, and they’re OK, get me where I want to go, and I do see more “independent” sites.

Sometimes, the homemade page is better, offering a POV, or info I otherwise wouldn’t have considered, sort of like AOL in the early days…

Comment by tillthen | 2008-12-09 20:14:19

Thanks to all for the info on search engines. Google is now off my computah.

Comment by LV | 2008-12-10 05:53:31

I’ve been using Goodsearch after a tip here from (IIRC) Rev Amy. You select a charity - I think all registered US charities are listed - and then every time you do a search they donate to that charity. A tiny amount of course but it does mount up. A few dollars a week if you search a lot.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Alice | 2008-12-10 02:46:46

So which search engines are not bought and paid for? Tell us and I am sure there are many that would show their might by doing what is right.

 
 

Comment by Mar | 2008-12-10 07:08:36

If you mean Lucianne Goldberg, she was a friend of Linda Tripp. Joe Conason recommended the book “Nightmare” to Al Franken about Nixon and Watergate and Lucianne was around then.

 
 
 

Comment by Buzz Latte | 2008-12-09 18:40:55

Sheesh, when will the under the bus tossing end? No kidding, Obama is the original fairytale.

Axelrod misspoke?

More like Obama is obfuscating once, again.

Comment by tek | 2008-12-09 20:18:58

AFter you read everything, it does appear that Obama was involved in this. How else did Roddo think he was going to get a cabinet post or an ambassadorship I wondered right away, why did Rod think Obama owed him something in the first place? A lot going on here we aren’t hearing about.

Comment by cc | 2008-12-09 20:38:37

remember rod is also linked to rezko…and so he probably knows a whole lot more about obama’s ties to tony…

fyi- it’s becoming really easy to tell when obama is lying…it’s the tone of his voice, how he speaks, the expressions on his face. he’s not a convincing liar.

 
 
 

Comment by ame | 2008-12-09 18:41:18

“Axerod Mis-spoke”.

This evening on “Hardball,” one talking head said he accepts this statement and believes Obama.

Another free pass….as usual.

Comment by tillthen | 2008-12-09 19:02:29

I do not watch Hardball. Would you tell us who the talking head is that said he believed Obama? Thanks.

 

Comment by Tess | 2008-12-09 19:03:41

Obama “mispoke” - I still like the old “WORM” - what Obama really meant.

 

Comment by apsihapa | 2008-12-10 08:37:02

What Azelrod Really Meant (WARM) is somewhat similar to WORM. I wonder who exzactly is assigned to keep WARM and WORM straight.

 
 

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2008-12-09 18:49:05

Let’s see: misspoke, inartful, unfortunate, yada, yada.

I suspect we’re going to hear these words over and over again.

Saddened and shocked, too.

Verbal gymnastics to live and die by. The details just get better and better. Hope that bus is a widebody!

Comment by cc | 2008-12-09 20:40:00

blaggo is not the person obama knew…

 
 

Comment by Touchet | 2008-12-09 18:50:21

uuummmm uummmm what i meant to say is that we didn’t talk about this one specific selection. But thats not the point, the point is that we need to get away from these kinds of political attacks. America doesn’t want that, america wants us to….ummm….give lots of money to billionaires so they can continue to be rich…I mean. ummm ummm.

 

Comment by galt | 2008-12-09 18:51:50

We should change the name of D.C. to Tangled Web City? :shock:

Comment by Ferd Berfle | 2008-12-09 19:22:28

District of Corruption
Decidedly Corrupt
Distinctly Cancerous

Comment by galt | 2008-12-09 19:40:54

Dismally Cantankerous

Comment by Zeke | 2008-12-10 03:13:45

Dose Creeps

 
 
 
 

Comment by Touchet | 2008-12-09 18:53:59

I sense an uplifting speech comming up.

Comment by Concerned Mother | 2008-12-09 18:55:03

Will Jon “Gang Raper” Favreau write the speech?

 

Comment by Pennsylvania Red | 2008-12-09 18:59:14

I sense a faux Palin scandal coming up.

Comment by Touchet | 2008-12-09 19:01:03

LOL, right. Palin’s boobs dropped two inches this just in. What has palin been doing with her tits.

Comment by babalu123 | 2008-12-09 21:53:07

why dont You just live Palin alone, take on Obama, She has nothing to with this mess. Trying to change THE subject???

 
 

Comment by tillthen | 2008-12-09 19:32:48

….or they could blame it all on Bush and McCain. Ne?

 

Comment by stodgie | 2008-12-09 20:19:14

look, we know it all hillary’s fault. a few good rap moves will bring the obots back in line. let obama give a speech about the gov and give him the finger. that’s take care of things i’m sure!

 
 

Comment by oowawa | 2008-12-09 19:03:56

Just thinking about the uplifting speech to come, I am already beginning to “elevate,” tingling is starting to move up my leg, and I may even be feeling the onset of lactation (and I’m an old man).

Comment by benny | 2008-12-09 19:09:37

lol rofl. thats hilarious.

 

Comment by Ferd Berfle | 2008-12-09 19:16:26

Oh yes, the lovely ers, ahs, and ums interspersed between flights of poetic hogwash, deftly packaged for the milling herd.

LMAO.

Comment by galt | 2008-12-09 19:33:17

Ah the infamous rapier wit of the Ferdmeister… :shock:

Hey how goes it?

Galt

Comment by Ferd Berfle | 2008-12-09 19:40:09

Not too bad. How are you doing, Galt? There are some interesting threads today.

Comment by galt | 2008-12-09 19:43:00

Yep. Do you think the OBorg get time-and-a-half when in crisis management mode? :shock:

Comment by Ferd Berfle | 2008-12-09 19:59:31

Yep-$0.075 per post after 5:00 PM. That’ll buy a lot of Night Train in today’s market.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by galt | 2008-12-09 18:59:07

Popcorn and a tall cold one, Uppity, on the house? :mrgreen:

Comment by lark | 2008-12-09 20:03:42

These next four years are going to be miserably funny.

 
 

Comment by ford | 2008-12-09 19:00:38

Rahm is in deep, if he is the “advisor” who spoke and tried to broker a deal with Blog….the reference to “5 CD” is about his seat that Blog was also to appoint. The power these people had, and the way they play with other people’s lives is sicking.

It makes you see how Mrs. Obama was paid 300,000 a year to do the same job she was doing before BO was senator for 120,000 a year…a pattern of feathering your nest…and living knowing that Rezco helped buy the home you live in…

do you think Blog will flip???he did call BO a motherf****er. It sounds like he is a little pissed.

Comment by oowawa | 2008-12-09 19:27:24

Blogo is kind of cute with his poofy little hairstyle. He’ll probably be a star in prison. But he’d better watch his back . . .

Comment by HARP | 2008-12-09 19:48:16

It`s not his back he needs to watch. lol

 
 

Comment by lark | 2008-12-09 20:05:34

Rahm is in deep, if he is the “advisor” who spoke and tried to broker a deal with Blog

Why not Biden. We haven’t seen much of him and he is a Senate WORM.

 
 

Comment by HARP | 2008-12-09 19:05:26

Blagojevich was just a little stupid. Hells bells…He might as well put the senate seat up on E bay.

 

Comment by Touchet | 2008-12-09 19:16:38

Obama’s campiagn song should have been Queen’s “Another one bites the dust.” Pretty soon Obama will be a lonely man. I wonder how many politicans he will throw under the bus before they all revolt on him.

Comment by oowawa | 2008-12-09 19:43:19

The Obots are all too enraptured singing Queen’s other song, “We Are the Champions,” to even think about “Another One Bites the Dust.”

 

Comment by lark | 2008-12-09 20:07:16

Obama will be lonelier than Bush by several degrees. What miserably funny 4 years to have.

 
 

Comment by tillthen | 2008-12-09 19:30:02

Wouldn’t that be sweet, to get Rahmo Emmanuello, the Israeli mole, caught up in the muck.

Over at the NYPost, someone said that Yecchy Bleggy was a Serb and those guys are bad mean mothers. I wonder if that has the O person a bit worried. The Serbs and the Muslims have a long standing feud still running. Uggaly! I wonder if that’s running under the skin of the combatants here.

 

Comment by fif | 2008-12-09 19:36:07

Remember how they crucified her when Hillary said she “misspoke” about Bosnia? What’s good for the goose…

Comment by tillthen | 2008-12-09 19:44:56

Unfortunately, Hillary was out there alone, this fraud has the disgusting MSM covering his ass.

Comment by JustMe | 2008-12-09 20:21:33

yes and Hillary was only getting shot at these are shooting the whole country and bringing it to it’s knees…

My god when all this started I had straight hair now it’s curly!

 
 
 

Comment by fif | 2008-12-09 19:38:39

For someone who is proclaimed the “Smartest President EVAH!” he sure is oblivious to a lot of things going on in close proximity–Wright, Rezko, Ayers, and now this. Either he’s lying or stupid. I go with “A.”

Comment by Ferd Berfle | 2008-12-09 19:47:16

I think he is a stupid liar.

Comment by lark | 2008-12-09 20:12:19

Atttten..shun. A stupid liar. Yes Sir.

 
 

Comment by Steve1 | 2008-12-09 21:14:34

No, no, no, no, its another boneheaded mistake~ Ha, David, making a misquote? When? These guys are liars and cheaters. Tony Rezko, Stuart Levine, Gov. Blago, Rev Wright, Poor Barry Soetoro, the lone clean sheep hanging with the wolfs, such good judgment………pity our country. Hey, didn’t Watergate start off with a little breakin by 4 low level jerks who were out of the loop???? Yeah, right. Can we say resignation or impeachment…where is that original BC???

 
 

Comment by HARP | 2008-12-09 19:42:15

Blagojevich will be singing like a canary. The squeaky wheel gets the oil.

Comment by oowawa | 2008-12-09 20:50:52

Does the squealing pig get greased?

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-12-10 03:02:18

In Shaw Shank they do. :)

Comment by Zeke | 2008-12-10 03:30:30

Say what an AO?

 
 
 
 

Comment by spatch | 2008-12-09 19:43:39

Obama doesn’t know anything about Blago, didn’t know Bill Ayers, didn’t know Tony Rezco, didn’t know what Jeremiah Wright was saying every Sunday for 20 years, didn’t know he had a half brother living in a cardboard shack in Kenya, didn’t know about his illegal alien Aunt who was living in public housing and with tax payer assistance in Boston for years. Are we to believe that the Messiah MENSA had no clue who these people were and what they were up to?
Apparently, 52% of the voters still believe the One and are totally unable to admit an error in judgment in regard to this flim-flam scam man.

Comment by benny | 2008-12-09 19:51:29

did BHO know michelle obama? we’ll have to wait and see if he tries to throw her under the bus too.

Comment by csuzeq | 2008-12-09 20:24:31

Oh, yeah, she’ll go under the bus at some point. Count on it. Watch Mechelle go down in Operation Board Games while Obama gets off scott free. That will be fun to see!

 
 

Comment by wodiej | 2008-12-09 19:52:12

Messiah Mensa…good one….the new thing is not being accountable and making excuses for your behavior. So as Obama does…goes his worshippers as well.

 

Comment by oowawa | 2008-12-09 19:57:47

All this “not knowing”–there’s something pure, spiritual, immaculate about it. That’s why so many photographers are able to capture an aura of light surrounding his head . . .

Comment by benny | 2008-12-09 20:03:39

yep, and a special beam of light coming right through his ears which seem to hypnotise obots and turn them into zombies singing: O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma.

 

Comment by lark | 2008-12-09 20:15:24

The same aura that hovers over every prison and the same beams of light that ushers from their windows.

 
 
 

Comment by samb | 2008-12-09 19:45:07

Yea, you only mis- speak when you get busted. Don’t you just love that 70’s
ex-porn star look Axelrod has? What a thug.

 

Comment by wodiej | 2008-12-09 19:48:22

misspoke indeed….Axerod simply was not supposed to tell anyone…that was supposed to be a SECRET! Obama is not going to be the first black president. He’s going to be the first black president who was impeached. that is what people get for using a person’s skin color as credentials for anything especially when they are as dirty as pigpen.

Comment by OBAMA IS A FRAUD | 2008-12-09 21:57:24

I will make bets with anyone here that you are right. 100% guaranteed this prick will get impeached. And early on too.

Comment by Zeke | 2008-12-10 03:35:47

He hasn’t raised his right hand and placed his left on the Qura..Er, Um, Holy er um, shit, that was close… Bible just yet.
Think Capra finish

 
 
 

Comment by HARP | 2008-12-09 19:51:05

In a 2005 op-ed, Axelrod argued, in effect, that trading political favors – including jobs – is part of the grease that makes government work.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16395.html

 

Comment by NCgirl | 2008-12-09 19:51:17

Blogojevich has already posted bail and is back in the governor’s mansion. So much for justice.

Comment by Elle | 2008-12-09 20:00:46

Oh yes ,and that for a mere change of $4,500.00 Dollars.Unbelievable the cheap price of freedom when it comes to political corruption and crime.

 
 

Comment by Fancy | 2008-12-09 19:56:36

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/February-2008/Mr-Un-Popularity/

From Chicago Magazine, via the WAPO:

I thought I heard something about painting Blago as an unfit POS, which he is, but I’m thinking the intent was to take the heat off Obama, and Rham.

Comment by Elle | 2008-12-09 20:03:44

Timely arrest to ensure that the public can not connect the dots.The heat will ignite nonetheless.
Let’s watch and see.

 
 

Comment by ford | 2008-12-09 20:10:25

If I was Blago,I would be very afraid. Blago is a huge liability to BO…it will be a shame if he is in some kind of accident…

If you get a chance to read the indictment.Blago was in on hospitals, unions, newspapers, development and real estate, zoning, and appointments….he had his corrupt finger in everything, and BO endorsed him, and worked with him. Bo got the medical REVIEW BOARD BILL PASSED THAT REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF REVIEWERS FROM 15 TO 9…SO THEY COULD BE EASIER TO CONTROL, AT BLAGO’S BIDDING…

BLAGO WAS ARRESTED JUST BEFORE HE BROKERED A DEAL WITH BO FOR THE SENATE SEAT.

Comment by oowawa | 2008-12-09 20:40:16

If I was Blago,I would be very afraid. Blago is a huge liability to BO…it will be a shame if he is in some kind of accident…

Do you kind of think that maybe this might never come to trial? I scold myself for being a horrible old cynic and just put another layer of tinfoil in my beanie.

Comment by Zeke | 2008-12-10 03:37:55

My advice is to him is to stay out of the choir loft…

 
 

Comment by cc | 2008-12-09 20:54:37

I think you are right on target with this speculation…blago squealing on bo’s corrupt past has oblowme sweatin’ bullets. of course, princess has gotten away with everything else until now, so he’s feeling superior and truly believes no one can touch him. we’ll see….but I relish the day this fraud gets what he deserves.

 
 

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Comment by tek | 2008-12-09 20:16:01

Speaking of senate seats, what is with all the unqualified celebrities trying to grab Hillary’s seat? Caroline Kennedy? Fran Drescher? People, how about starting out in the house or at the state level?

Comment by oowawa | 2008-12-09 20:19:10

Fran? PUH-LEEEZ! At least she’s pure NYC to the bone.

 
 

Comment by cathnealon | 2008-12-09 20:23:25

Why didn’t Patrick F wait until a full deal had gone through and make the arrest if Rod was indeed brokering one with BO? Why didn’t he wait until he caught him sealing the deal? Did he do this on purpose to once again cover for BO? And my second question is why did BO lie when they asked him whether he had talked to Rod B about replacements? If he wasn’t guilty about anything he would have said “yes, we did discuss candidates but I had no idea he was wanting a payoff.’Now he had to lie again and say that “Axelrod misspoke.” It seems his first impulse is always to lie regardless of whether there are videos out there saying the exact opposite(Wright, Rezko, etc).And the only thing now is that this is only the tip of the iceberg and we all seem to be passengers on the Titanic.

 

Comment by tillthen | 2008-12-09 20:28:15

I want to know why the Feds aren’t doing anything about the phony arrest warrant for Larry Sinclair issued by O’Biden’s son in DE. That is very very fishy.

 

Comment by kat in your hat | 2008-12-09 21:15:51

They are ALL lying CROOKS! my gawd. i can’t take this.

Comment by benny | 2008-12-09 21:20:20

I detest it. Cant imagine all these frauds leading us.

 
 

Comment by OBAMA IS A FRAUD | 2008-12-09 21:55:58

It just gets filthier, more corrupt and more bizarre every single day. And, just think, the azzhole FRAUD isn’t even in the White House yet. Maybe God will show mercy and give the electors some brains next week. This is all so vile. There’s never been anyone THIS filthy BEFORE even officially elected. Can’t wait for the next six months to play out. When do the Obots finally admit they’ve been conned big time?

 

Comment by babalu123 | 2008-12-09 21:58:28

Blago will start yapping very soon. He is so angry at Obama, for not getting job at Obama gang. He will get Obama all the way!!! Guys!!!! two top guys from Chicago Tribune said; Blago is menthaly sick, He is not normal, and everybody in Illionis Governmment knows about???

 

Comment by OBAMA IS A FRAUD | 2008-12-09 22:01:02

List of who Obama has thrown under the bus : 59 incidents so far

1. Rep. Alice Palmer, 12/18/95
2. Gha-is Askia 12/31/95
3. Mr McLachlin: Unforgiven High School PE teacher 4/1/04
4. Novelist, E L Doctorow 5/15/04
5. Bill Clinton, 6/15/07
6. Don Imus 4/6/07
7. Hillary Clinton, 1/12/08
8. Unemployed Americans 2/15/08
9. Black superdelegates, 2/15/08
10. Louis Farrakhan, 2/26/08
11. Austan Goolsbee, 3/3/08
12. Samantha Power, 3/8/08
13. Geraldine Ferraro, 3/13/08
14. His grandmother, 3/18/08
15. Michigan voters, 3/19/08
16. Typical white persons, 3/20/08
17. Asian supporters, 4/7/08
18. Clingy, bitter smalltowners, 4/11/08
19. Charles Gibson and George Stephanopolis 4/18/08
20. Rev. Wright, 4/29/08
21. West Virginia voters, 5/9/08
22. Kentucky voters, 5/16/08
23. Father Pfleger, 5/29/08
24. Democracy, 5/31/08
25. His church, 6/1/08
26. Roy LaVerne Brooks, 6/3/08
27. Tony Rezko, 6/3/08
28. His masculinity 6/14/08
29. Bill Ayers, 6/9/2008
30. Jim Johnson, 6/11/08
31. Black fathers, 6/13/08
32. The indicted Mayor of Detroit 6/14/08
33. Muslim women, 6/18/08
34. Campaign-finance reform, 6/19/08
35. Rod Blagajovich 6/20/08
36. Liberal blogosphere, 6/25/08
37. Michael Klonsky, 6/26/08
38. Gun control, 6/28/08
39. Gen. Wes Clark, 6/30/08
40. MoveOn.org, 6/30/08
41. Welfare recipients, 7/1/08
42. Separation of church and state, 7/1/08
43. Ending the Iraq war, 7/2/08
44. Ryan Lizza, The New Yorker magazine 7/21/08
45. His father 7/25/08
46. Kenyan Orphans 7/28/08
47. The American Flag 7/28/08
48. Debra Bartoshevich, disobedient Clinton delegate 7/28/08
49. Greens and the No Drilling gang 8/4/08
50. Muslim outreach coordinator one week after hiring him 8/5/08
51. Superdelegates 8/23/08
52. Anyone called Edwards 8/24/08
53. Fundamental change 8/27/08
54. Small town mayors 8/30/08
55. US troops in Iraq 9/15/08
56. Harry Reid 9/16/08
57. Aunti Zeituni Onyango 11/1/08
58. Senator John Kerry 12/1/08
59. David Axelrod 12/9/08

Who’s next? Getting hard to keep up with the “under the bus” list. And I think we need a new vehicle. This one is wayyyy tooo crowded.

 

Comment by Sam | 2008-12-09 22:03:19

If Axelrod misspoke, why wasn’t it immediately corrected? What other kinds of “mis-statements” has he made?

Comment by Donna Brazile | 2008-12-09 22:06:55

Anyone paying attention to this election knows that everybody in the Obama camp constantly misspeaks.

Honestly, I think it’s a job requirement.

Stop the hate:-)

 
 

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Comment by KintheNorthwest | 2008-12-10 09:11:48

What I keep wondering about is why Hillary keeps letting Obama and his crew take all these pot shots at her.
Its like Hillary has no more dignity left. Hillary just keeps letting Obama and his crew just walk all over her.
Srry to say this but I have very little respect left for this lady. However I dont think Hillary has any respect left for herself.

 

Comment by JudyR | 2008-12-10 16:00:43

I wonder what story Axelrod would tell under oath? Some of these “mispeaks” are just begging to be challenged in a courtroom.

 

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