Comments on: One Paragraph, Four Obama Statements, Two Equivocations, One Lie, One False Promise [Updated] http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:05:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Blagojevich & Ethics: Barack Obama’s Public Relations Problem : NO QUARTER http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1099041 Blagojevich & Ethics: Barack Obama’s Public Relations Problem : NO QUARTER Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:30:53 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1099041 [...] According to a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released today, more Americans believe Obama or one of his aides engaged in inappropriate conduct with Blagojevich than they did on 11-12 DEC 2008, a clear sign that voters are not swallowing the equivocations and prevarications of the Obama campaign hook, line and sinker. [...] [...] According to a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released today, more Americans believe Obama or one of his aides engaged in inappropriate conduct with Blagojevich than they did on 11-12 DEC 2008, a clear sign that voters are not swallowing the equivocations and prevarications of the Obama campaign hook, line and sinker. [...]

]]> By: The Fallacy of Hope « Sonic Ninja Kitty http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1095012 The Fallacy of Hope « Sonic Ninja Kitty Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:31:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1095012 [...] Do you hope for greater transparency in government promised as by the Obama administration? The double speak and contradictions Obama haas engaged in regarding the actions of his representatives must’ve been quite disappointing. Hope that we [...] [...] Do you hope for greater transparency in government promised as by the Obama administration? The double speak and contradictions Obama haas engaged in regarding the actions of his representatives must’ve been quite disappointing. Hope that we [...]

]]> By: The Holidays may cause a few tummy aches for Sen. Obama. « ZachJonesIsHome - Helping to Keep an Eye on the Larry Sinclair Allegations http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1094681 The Holidays may cause a few tummy aches for Sen. Obama. « ZachJonesIsHome - Helping to Keep an Eye on the Larry Sinclair Allegations Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:17:10 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1094681 [...] guess a lot of trouble. For it was Barack Obama who uttered the following words yesterday: “I have never spoken to the governor on this subject. I am confident that no representatives of [...] [...] guess a lot of trouble. For it was Barack Obama who uttered the following words yesterday: “I have never spoken to the governor on this subject. I am confident that no representatives of [...]

]]> By: 21: A Number Emanuel and Obama Will Remember on Fitzmas : NO QUARTER http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1094141 21: A Number Emanuel and Obama Will Remember on Fitzmas : NO QUARTER Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:34:02 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1094141 [...] guess a lot of trouble. For it was Barack Obama who uttered the following words yesterday: “I have never spoken to the governor on this subject. I am confident that no representatives of [...] [...] guess a lot of trouble. For it was Barack Obama who uttered the following words yesterday: “I have never spoken to the governor on this subject. I am confident that no representatives of [...]

]]> By: Ms Placed Democrat » President Elect Obama Investigates Himself And Declares Himself “Innocent” http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1093605 Ms Placed Democrat » President Elect Obama Investigates Himself And Declares Himself “Innocent” Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:39:07 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1093605 [...] he or his staff has. One would assume the investigations are independent. After all, it was Obama who on Thursday stated the following: I am confident that no representatives of mine would have any part of any deals related to this [...] [...] he or his staff has. One would assume the investigations are independent. After all, it was Obama who on Thursday stated the following: I am confident that no representatives of mine would have any part of any deals related to this [...]

]]> By: Barack Obama: “I Investigated Myself, and I Decided I Am Innocent” : NO QUARTER http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1093141 Barack Obama: “I Investigated Myself, and I Decided I Am Innocent” : NO QUARTER Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:21:15 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1093141 [...] Fitzgerald, one would assume it would not interfere with the federal probe. After all, it was Obama who on Thursday stated the following: I am confident that no representatives of mine would have any part of any deals related to this [...] [...] Fitzgerald, one would assume it would not interfere with the federal probe. After all, it was Obama who on Thursday stated the following: I am confident that no representatives of mine would have any part of any deals related to this [...]

]]> By: alphagirl http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1093110 alphagirl Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:00:36 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1093110 because they are not afraid of the TRUTH! because they are not afraid of the TRUTH!

]]> By: Wisewoman http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1093030 Wisewoman Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:40:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1093030 Unlike the gay issue, the violence was not perpetuated by the victims who lacked civil rights. Just as with the civil rights movement of which I was intricately involved, it was the "VIOLENCE ITSELF' that caused the backlash from the country for the good of the movement. We were taught to refrain from violence. MLK taught us that violence begats violence. Unlike the gay issue, the violence was not perpetuated by the victims who lacked civil rights. Just as with the civil rights movement of which I was intricately involved, it was the “VIOLENCE ITSELF’ that caused the backlash from the country for the good of the movement. We were taught to refrain from violence. MLK taught us that violence begats violence.

]]> By: Wisewoman http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1093020 Wisewoman Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:34:08 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1093020 Snickers: How dare you equate violence to MLK or Ghandi. Sorry your examples are off target. Use some others because these do not fit. Snickers: How dare you equate violence to MLK or Ghandi. Sorry your examples are off target. Use some others because these do not fit.

]]> By: Wisewoman http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1093012 Wisewoman Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:24:47 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1093012 OIAF: I am AA and you are not waiting for me to figure out he is a Fraud. I knew he was a fraud before the Iowa caucaus when Obama made up a lie about his "parents" connection with the Edmond Petis bridge in Alabama. The liar insisted that his parents met during the event and then "little Barack was born" when he was actually born 4 years before the event occurred. He told this bald-faced lie in front of TV cameras in the pulpit of a black church celebrating the event that was attended by him and the Clintons. He said this to ingratiate himself to Blacks and to "out do" the Clintons who spoke eloquently at the event. The media knew he lied and never said a word to inform the public. THIS AA DETEST THIS LYING, RACIST, SCUMBAG AND WILL NEVER, EVER SUPPORT HIM. OIAF: I am AA and you are not waiting for me to figure out he is a Fraud. I knew he was a fraud before the Iowa caucaus when Obama made up a lie about his “parents” connection with the Edmond Petis bridge in Alabama. The liar insisted that his parents met during the event and then “little Barack was born” when he was actually born 4 years before the event occurred. He told this bald-faced lie in front of TV cameras in the pulpit of a black church celebrating the event that was attended by him and the Clintons. He said this to ingratiate himself to Blacks and to “out do” the Clintons who spoke eloquently at the event. The media knew he lied and never said a word to inform the public.
THIS AA DETEST THIS LYING, RACIST, SCUMBAG AND WILL NEVER, EVER SUPPORT HIM.

]]> By: touchet http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1092804 touchet Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:01:05 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1092804 Don't know. I don't know about anything. Sometimes wish I was truly ignorant about all this. It would make my life so much more happy. How does ones condition themselves to not see the truth? Don’t know. I don’t know about anything. Sometimes wish I was truly ignorant about all this. It would make my life so much more happy. How does ones condition themselves to not see the truth?

]]> By: touchet http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1092795 touchet Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:54:25 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1092795 I knew you would take the bait. Now that you have corrected my spelling, would you like to explain what was heard or read on the transcript or tape? If your so smart, please tell me, what type of fallacy you are committing here? The significance is not the grammar. The significance is what has occurred, so I think it is you who fails to get the significance. You are using Ad Hominem to attack the person rather than discuss the actual premise. Just because someones grammar is incorrect doesn't distract away from the argument. This goes way beyond grammatical mistakes. This proves that you are actually the one with faulty logic. <a href="http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html" rel="nofollow"> Description of Ad Hominem</a> Translated from Latin to English, "Ad Hominem" means "against the man" or "against the person." An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of "argument" has the following form: Person A makes claim X. Person B makes an attack on person A. Therefore A's claim is false. The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made). I knew you would take the bait. Now that you have corrected my spelling, would you like to explain what was heard or read on the transcript or tape?

If your so smart, please tell me, what type of fallacy you are committing here?

The significance is not the grammar. The significance is what has occurred, so I think it is you who fails to get the significance. You are using Ad Hominem to attack the person rather than discuss the actual premise. Just because someones grammar is incorrect doesn’t distract away from the argument.

This goes way beyond grammatical mistakes. This proves that you are actually the one with faulty logic.

Description of Ad Hominem

Translated from Latin to English, “Ad Hominem” means “against the man” or “against the person.”

An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of “argument” has the following form:

Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on person A.
Therefore A’s claim is false.
The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made).

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1092775 TeakWoodKite Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:39:19 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1092775 Where would you go? The internet is not the wild west it once was. Where would you go? The internet is not the wild west it once was.

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1092760 TeakWoodKite Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:12:17 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1092760 touchet, respectfully; When listening to BO, I hear both the figurative AND the literal. I am of the humble opinion that BO did not read the transcripts, but heard a copy of the wire-taps... I am NOT a smart man but I know what <strike>love</strike> double talk is. :) touchet, respectfully;

When listening to BO, I hear both the figurative AND the literal.

I am of the humble opinion that BO did not read the transcripts, but heard a copy of the wire-taps…

I am NOT a smart man but I know what love double talk is. :)

]]> By: Seattle Moss http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1092742 Seattle Moss Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:33:28 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1092742 Yes I'm into Sales and marketing The pay is very good! Thanks Yes I’m into Sales and marketing

The pay is very good!

Thanks

]]> By: why lie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1092741 why lie Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:32:30 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1092741 Did you read most of it....Looks like the Clintons are already in trouble...some are saying it was Bill's fault for Obama lying (Maybe they are joking, but many will read it another way.) Did you read most of it….Looks like the Clintons are already in trouble…some are saying it was Bill’s fault for Obama lying (Maybe they are joking, but many will read it another way.)

]]> By: Seattle Moss http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1092740 Seattle Moss Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:31:21 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1092740 The church that burned down was the church of the vice presidential candidate of the republican party that garnered 56 million votes in this past election I hope that militants were not involved as this really will hurt the gay rights movement Story developing!!! The church that burned down was the church of the vice presidential candidate of the republican party that garnered 56 million votes in this past election
I hope that militants were not involved as this really will hurt the gay rights movement

Story developing!!!

]]> By: why lie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1092737 why lie Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:29:11 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1092737 I do believe the is some problem with Obama eligibility for Pres. M aybe he was born in Hawaii and lost his citizenship later. Maybe he wasnt born in Hawaii and should have stepped down. But what ever the reason the whole truth should be brought forth so that there are NO questions. With all his lies when are we to believe him? The latest controversy with the governor, Obama again lied at the onset. I do believe the is some problem with Obama eligibility for Pres. M
aybe he was born in Hawaii and lost his citizenship later.
Maybe he wasnt born in Hawaii and should have stepped down.
But what ever the reason the whole truth should be brought forth so that there are NO questions.
With all his lies when are we to believe him? The latest controversy with the governor, Obama again lied at the onset.

]]> By: Seattle Moss http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1092734 Seattle Moss Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:27:45 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1092734 I don't have a problem with gay rights. I do have a problem with unchecked hateful mobs that rise up through hatred. This year the angry mob was directed at bush and Obama won. Next time around the mob may be against liberals of any kind which could usher in a republican fascist regime. Just be careful..The future is uncertain. I don’t have a problem with gay rights. I do have a problem with unchecked hateful mobs that rise up through hatred.
This year the angry mob was directed at bush and Obama won. Next time around the mob may be against liberals of any kind which could usher in a republican fascist regime.
Just be careful..The future is uncertain.

]]> By: Seattle Moss http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/14/one-paragraph-four-obama-statements-two-equivocations-one-lie-one-false-promise/#comment-1092730 Seattle Moss Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:23:47 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=8593#comment-1092730 All I'm saying is be careful. if it turns out that gay militants were behind the church arson then middle america is going to be angry. Sorry if the truth hurts.. All I’m saying is be careful. if it turns out that gay militants were behind the church arson then middle america is going to be angry.
Sorry if the truth hurts..

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