Burn it Down
By NewHampster on January 5, 2009 at 5:05 PM in Women
My goddess what a video. I’m speechless.
From the women of http://gabnet.org/
Or are you not speechless? What say you?
Current ArticleBy NewHampster on January 5, 2009 at 5:05 PM in Women
My goddess what a video. I’m speechless.
From the women of http://gabnet.org/
Or are you not speechless? What say you?
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NH, I couldn’t access this at all, here or even link to Youtube. Could you repost link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMVi4xwCuUo
I see the ‘Sarah Palin is a C***’ t-shirts didn’t make the cut. To be honest I was a little underwhelmed. All of that stuff was voluntary, and in fact most of those women were for sale, apparently.
I think it does a disservice to enslaved women to equate this, or even relate this, to that. I can simultaneously not be outraged by those ads (a few of which only celebrated the female form), and not be a misogynist or mistreat women.
However, your point is a good one. There is literal slavery and rape going on right now, all around the world, including here. And there are cultures that directly accept it, and those that do should be punished, outcast, and worse. Our culture, as a whole, does not.
I think most of those advertisers should be treated just like a racist would be treated in civilized company, and be ignored and outcast. That would sort it out quickly, but not too many, male or female, are quitting doing business with D&G or anyone else.
My main problem with the video is the ‘burn it down’. Sorry, but throwing what we’ve got out, and guessing it’ll be better next time around, is a little childish. You work on improving, you point out things that are wrong, and you do it again tomorrow. If burning it down was an appropriate sentiment, believe me there’d have been capitals in flames a long time ago over my tax bill.
What a great video. I KNEW I didn’t like Tom Ford for a reason. . .
Whoa! That’s one of the strongest vids I’ve seen in a while.
Takes your breath away.
The music/chant adds to it [not always the case]. A clear, unequivocal message and/or reminder for us all!
Thanks for posting it.
Hey Peggy Sue:
We started http://www.campaignforgenderequality.org to bring the focus of what is represented in this video to the forefront and to make changes to eliminate this kind of actions against women.
Our first call is to Pres. Obama to form a Presidential Commission on Women. This will allow for a hearings throughout the United States and all issues affecting women will be heard. The Commission will make recommendations that will be put into law through legislation. JFK formed the Presidential Commission on the Status of women and many changes came about through this process.
Go to our website and sign the Petition calling for President Obama to form the Presidential Commission on Women. We partnered with http://www.WomenCount.org to kick off the petition drive.
Take action, fight for Gender Equality.
No Presidential Commission on Women, especially not under this administration. We have a UN Commission on Women and Saudi Arabia is on it. No thank you to feel good, useless gestures. Yes thank you to actual females in elected leadership positions.
i must agree, HC. actions speak louder than commissions.
I don’t trust the male chauvinist pig Obama — he’d more than likely appoint female hating females like Mrs. O and other self loathing women – or heaven forbid — faux feminists of NOW etc.
O has already put — women’s right are human rights — back 40 years — and anything he does will turn to crap.
No reason why we can’t have both. If you look at the critical influence some commissions have played in the past, you would be more in favor of one.
I’ll check it out, Johnny B. Thanks for the info.
Having a women’s commission under Obama’s administration would allow him to just give lip service to women’s equality rather than implementing actual change. After his campaign perpetrated the worst misogyny in election history, I doubt that That One will do anything for women anyway, beg anyone ever so hard. We’re already seeing his choices before his “historic celebration,” and they don’t represent women’s equality or much equality for anyone except for himself.
I second Peggy Sue. Thank you for posting.
Yes. A very powerful video.
Unfortunately, in many ways women are more avid and loyal followers of patriarchy than men.
It’s not men who preside over genital mutilation ceremonies in many Islamic societies; it’s sisters, mothers, grandmothers, aunts and cousins.
It wasn’t men who forced Chinese concubines into binding their feet. The practice grew from a royal concubine who became the emperor’s favorite with that strategy.
In the west, what seems like power to a young woman, a teenage girl, the glorious bloom of sexuality is mistaken for real power.
Until women stop being their own worst enemies and learn to organize and bond, I’m afraid nothing will change.
And some women are always more interested in pursuing their own paths to power via youth, allure, sexuality than in promoting fairness for all.
Just like men.
I’ve come to the conclusion it’s human nature. I didn’t say it’s right.
it’s only the biggest suppoertersd
basil – A few points on Chinese footbinding.
1. It certainly was not only concubines who had their feet bound in China.
2. Footbinding was practiced by the Han. The Manchu did not and tried to stop it. They found it almost impossible and eventually allowed it, apparently because they thought it showed their superiority.
3. Confucius said “A woman should never be heard outside her own home”.
4. The Confucian dictum of Thrice Following stated that a woman must obey her father and elder brothers in her youth, her husband after marriage, and her son after the death of her husband.
5. The worst thing that could happen to a Chinese woman in the past was to have been judged unmarriageable. Without bound feet they would never have found husbands.
6. Without bound feet, women would have been much harder to control. Were not black slaves in the US shackled and mutilated to prevent escape?
“The glorious bloom of sexuality mistaken for power”. Only by the naive, who have the illusion foisted upon them by men. Sadly, women are usually brought up to doubt themselves, while men are mostly secure in their (sometimes totally delusional)sense of entitlement. Sometimes it takes a long time for a female to throw away her stiletto heels and go her own way whether society likes it or not. Anyone who would write the blanket judgement in the first sentence of your post obviously has a lot to learn.
Momule,
Ummmmm . . . . . I have experienced the same wide range of discrimination, misogyny, career obstacles, etc throughout my 4 plus decades on the planet as most women have.
What I’m saying is that I have come to the realization many women are complicit in the perpetuation of the patriarchal system and I can no longer make a ‘blanket’ statement that it’s all men’s fault.
The (mostly) beautiful women in the video were hired, no doubt, for their ‘beauty’ and were, no doubt, perfectly happy and probably proud of their ‘power’ to command high prices for ‘modeling.’
Also, I’m sure some of those ads were taken by women photographers, and displayed in magazines edited by women.
Women have always bartered with their ‘beauty,’ and ‘youth’ in much the same way men have bartered their ‘physical strength.’
The problem is, at a certain point, women realize their ‘power (beauty) won’t last forever and yet it seems that many (in the west) fail to impart that lesson to their daughters and fail to prepare themselves for a life devoid of that ‘power.’
Some of the worst discrimination I have gone through has been at the hands of other women. For every woman who thinks gender ‘equality’ is a legitimate goal, there are 2 or 3 perfectly content with the system the way it is. For proof, look no further than what was done to HRC.
Women are not saints. They are neither better nor worse than men.
About Chinese foot-binding. I’m well aware that it was a widespread practice cutting across all social classes when it was finally banned in the twentieth century.
I was referring to its origins. It was initiated by a royal concubine (I will post her name later,) imitated by other ladies of the court and then spread (in a fad-like way) to women throughout China.
‘The first documented reference to the actual binding of a foot is from the court of the Southern Tang dynasty in Nanjing, which celebrates the fame of its dancing girls renowned for their tiny feet and beautiful bow shoes.[2] The practice apparently became the standard for feminine beauty in the imperial court, spreading downward socially and geographically as the lower classes strove to imitate the style of the elite. [3]
960-1270′
Levy, Howard. Chinese Footbinding: The History of a Curious Erotic Custom. New York: Bell Publishing Co, 1967. (GN 161.L4)
basil – There is only an accepted “theory” for the origin of footbinding. Prince Li Yu who ruled one of the ten kingdoms in S. China had a favorite concubine, Precious Thing, who was a superb dancer. She danced on toe inside a six foot high lotus blossom. This makes it appear that it started as akin to ballet en pointe. However, instead of developing with hard toed shoes, it appears the foot became the lotus blossom. This theory blends local tradition, some historical facts and scholarly guesses. Anyone who has seen what a lotus blossom foot looks like when uncovered can appreciate what agony those girls must have gone through.
I would never say that it is all the fault of men. I have been married to the same guy for 46 years, so I guess I must think that some of them have some saving graces. But the objectification and demeaning of women which has gone on for so many years is disgusting and unacceptable.
Agreed.
What I’ve been trying to say is there seem to be as many misogynistic women as there are men.
But footbinding (which is a disgustingly crippling custom) was not entirely forced on women; rather, some women thought it made them more attractive and insisted on undergoing it and then forced their daughter to do the same.
It became a tradition. Not all traditions are beneficial.
When it as finally banned there was some resistance from women who wanted to continue the practice.
A modern analogy to footbinding, without the horrible crippling associated with it, might be breast augmentation, cellulite removal, nose jobs, even bikini waxes which I have never and will never have as it sounds absolutely tortuous.
no doubt that women are often complicit in their own subjection, but that certainly doesn’t relieve men of their responsibility in their part. i am the first one to take women to task for their passivity, because if women don’t care about equal rights for themselves, then who will?
but it seems like you’re equating women encouraging misogyny with men encouraging misogyny, but the correct analogy would be women encouraging misogyny with men encouraging misandry (?) (man-hating). i don’t think men spend a lot of time trying to encourage each other to become/stay subordinate to women. they do encourage what i consider to be self-destructive behaviors in themselves, but these behaviors don’t have anything to do with women.
Stark, stunning, powerful, and all too true.
Thank you.
Very powerful. Women cannot allow this to continue.
Isn’t that sad?
Good grief, I can’t believe we allow this crap to continue. When is enough going to be enough?
Women will never be equal until these kind of ads are perceived to be WRONG. Imagine the counterparts about race.
Everyone should watch Killiung me softly 3. I think that is the most recent version. I got to watch it in a college class and it shook the young males in the room up alot!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0336699/
Absolutely, Obamastoleyourboyfriend. I had the pleasure of working with Cambridge Doc. Films – great people, and very committed to these issues.
And NH, yes, I am speechless abt the video. It is disturbing on oh-so-many-levels, not the least of which is how ACCEPTABLE those kinds of ads are…
Thanks for this…
Everyone should watch Killng me softly 3. I think that is the most recent version. I got to watch it in a college class and it shook the young males in the room up alot!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0336699/
powerful.
Wow.
Thank you for posting this. I’ll pass it on.
The problem with the video’s impact, IMHO, is it displays images of women, models, actresses, aspiring models, willingly posing in exchange for money.
By the level of photography, I’d say the ads were mostly for high-end rags paying high prices to the models.
The women in the ads don’t look like they’re doing anything against their will.
A more meaningful video would, IMHO, show REAL victims of abuse, not pampered pets pretending to be victims.
And the chanting got on my nerves.
(BTW – I’m female)
Yeah we know Basil. it’s all women’s fault. Did it ever occur to you that maybe they can’t make as much money as their male counterparts in traditional jobs? That maybe they don’t have the opportunities in the real world. Seems to me that it’s a great setup. Gee you got a hot body, I’ll pay you way more if you will just….
Hey you want to get out of this lousy town and make some big bucks?
And what about when they are 40?
But considering that the Enabler headed for the White House spurred this all on, I will expect more of these ads as women get treated worse. One day, the young ones will figure out they threw their rights away and fight back. I pitty these pigs when they do. Too bad it was already done for them once but they took it for granted.
I’m still waiting for that shithead to say something about his speechwriter. His silence is deafening, the shithead.
I was just getting ready to write something back to Basil, Uppity, who also has a “blame the victim” comment over at my post (did you know that it isn’t because of patriarchy that women engage in genital mutilation performed by women? That was just one example Basil gave of how women perpetuate all of this – and of course, men are completely blameless in it all.), but I think you took care of it just fine!
Btw, you are KICKING BUTT in the weblog voting! Rock on, sister!
Yes, Rev Amy, me too. Uppity said it so much better than I ever could have. I get so angry, I am almost incoherent about this kind of abuse and men like Basil who insist on the “women must like it” argument. The fool can’t understand after thousands of years of being told they are responsible for their condition and being indoctrinated with the attitude their only value comes from their ability to have babies or their looks (which as Uppity pointed out, fades with time), it is difficult to break the bonds. My beautiful granddaughter is very intellegent, but I can see the influence already at nineteen and she comes from a family with strong women.
Again,
I am not only blaming women for female genital mutilation. I said they were complicit in perpetuating the practice. I have seen several documentaries, read several books and heard first-hand accounts of women (girls) who were subjected to it against their will.
In many tribes it is the mothers, the grandmothers who force their daughters under the knife.
My point is that horrific misogynistic customs from all cultures are often sometimes inflicted by women on women.
Check “Prisoners of Ritual” by Hanny Lightfoot Klein and “Beyond the Veil” by Fertima
Of course I realize how terribly politically incorrect it is for me to dare express the opinion that women aren’t entirely blameless.
A lot of us are, Uppity. Unity and change must just be buzzwords for That One. I’m surprised he didn’t give us a full-blown, teleprompter-inspired bit of soaring oratorical claptrap to make those with short attention spans forget that his speechwriter is a sexist pig.
I never said it was all women’s fault.
You’re putting words in mouth.
I guess that’s what I should expect for voicing a ‘contrarian’ opinion and admitting I find women complicit in perpetuating patriarchal systems.
Basil, there was a time in the history of America when women couldn’t vote and men were legally allowed to beat their wives and women weren’t allowed to own land. IT WAS THE LAW PASSED BY MEN.
Are you claiming the origins of genital mutilation and foot binding was some woman’s idea? The first came from a fear of progeny being questioned so they took away the source of pleasure for women. Foot binding was the standard of beauty as articulated by men to make them more valuable. Yes. Women were sold, traded and killed because they were women.
It’s not easy to have a revolution in a population which is physically weaker and dependent on the stronger for basic necessities and their very lives.
it could be that there are two sides to this. i don’t think any woman here would deny that women are often complicit in their own subjection – jeez, wasn’t this election proof of that? denying this fact won’t help advance women’s equality.
however, basil seems to be denying the reality that there is a peculiar contempt for the female of the species, that does not exist for the male, and one would logically assume that this contempt originated with and was driven by men. if the human race consisted only of females, would misogyny still exist? i suppose anything is possible, but it doesn’t seem likely.
i certainly give men their fair share of the blame for misogyny, but at the same time, i look to *women* at least for the initial solution to it, because if women don’t demand equality and respect, very few men are going to give it to us. that’s just cold hard reality. until there are *consequences* for disrespecting women, it will continue. those are the laws of physics.
I agree with you completely, NoBama. It was shocking to me to learn not all women supported the passage of the ERA and I have been disgusted by the vocal minority of women who, in this election cycle, have supported the sexism in the media and Bama supporters.
The more historic reference isn’t an excuse for that, but I believe it explains, to some extent, the lack of self respect and pride. This isn’t just an American problem, but the shock came in finding how deeply ingrained it is here. The role models are not Hillary or Sarah. They are Brittney and Paris and what drives that? The media!
Who controls the media? I haven’t found a single media conglomerate controlled by a woman. Are the ads in the video targeting men or women? They don’t represent the fantasies of any woman I know, but the data shows women make up the largest consumer group. It is a form of indoctrination.
At the end of the 1960’s, the pill came along and women were given more sexual freedom. In 1973 the Roe ruling which gave women more power over their own bodies. I believe that, as much as anything threatened many men so they have re-defined the feminist movement as something to be mocked and ridiculed.
Thank you.
I thought the point was that these are high-end ads, and these are the images that are circulated in the media, daily. these women are all obviously models, and they are all obviously advertisements.
that is the point… it is advertised daily, these types of images, of dead, tortured, strangled, stabbed, abused women, and it is considered high fashion, sexy and it sells stuff.
women see images of SUPER skinny women, and develop eating disorders. men see images of women being tortured, and abused, and it is a turn on, or it is deemed *ok*.
these types of images perpetuate the violence and abuse, and overall crap attitude toward women, in daily life.
and that, i do believe, was the point of the video.
Super skinny, wealthy, eating disorders, etc.
Yes, Donatella is one of them…her daughter has struggled with anorexia for much of her life.
Ever seen a Versace ad?
The ads say it is okay. Is it? Take a look for yourself.
http://www.tmz.com/2008/12/26/donatella-versace-and-her-leather-bags/
Why are women in England happier as a size 12?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1102572/Happiness-having-size-14-figure.html
A size 12 in England is equivalent to a size 8 in the US. I’m content as a size 8, but when I tried on clothes at a British store in Singapore I did not like that they were labeled size 12.
A size 12 is fine and so is an 8. When we begin to want the 0 because this is what we are fed, there is a problem.
You cannot tell me that Mother Teresa’s size 0 was what made her most happy in life.
You are so right, mcnorman. I watched my sister purge herself after taking a few bites of food constantly trying to be thin enough to be a model. It damaged her heart and she died far too young.
I am so sorry about your sister. I understand the disease. It is a horrible progression.
I almost don’t even think that is Donatella. She looks so different! her daughter has a serious disorder. She is so thin. If this is donatella, she went down hill! I mean, she was never a grand beauty, but she had some meat on her bones. Now, she is gone!
It’s Donatella. They have other pics of her on the beach in other bikinis. Donatella once said she spent 18 years of her life on coke. I suppose she was not watching Allegra during that time.
If Donatella is happy, that is wonderful. I have read that her pain comes from her daughter’s spiraling health problems.
It doesn’t stop the ads in the fashion industry.
the title of the article, “Donna Versace and her leather bags” was incredibly offensive: they did not mean handbags; and the comments were exceptionally cruel.
I found it ironic that the commenters did not recognize their handiwork in Versace.
sorry, “Donatella”
But the whole POINT is that ADVERTISEMENTS like this normalize it happening in reality and make it more enticing and more likely to happen. That’s the POINT.
Watch “Killing Us Softy 3″
Here’s the google video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1993368502337678412
Thank you, James.
thanks, I am watching now….
Thanks! For some reason I didn’t think it would be on you tube. I should have known better. What isn’t on you tube?!
Thank you so much for the link. It is one of the best uses for slightly over 30 minutes that a woman or someone who loves women. It is amazing how little it appears to touch you if you don’t participate in the MSM via magazines or the rest. But the fact of the matter is that you brush up against people who have been effected so it does touch you. The attitude comes at you even if it isn’t yours.
James,
Thank you. I tried linking to it elsewhwere and was unable to. This was most powerful.
OMG, what a video! I just sent the link to all of my girl friends and young nieces. Jeez, the ads with simulated rape are friggin’ scary. How anyone can even think it’s a form of art boggles the mind. Sicko.
Truly revolting. I remember writing to Vogue about 10 years ago to complain about their violent theme in a fashion layout showing the models in poses threatened by attack dogs. I wondered how a dog’s jaws around an ankle moved people to buy shoes…It amazed me how many letters they printed the next month drooling over this “art” by a celeb photographer.
Wonder whether the drop in sales for designer duds might be a good time to attack them on these very issues…if they want to sell clothes in the future, get on board. I certainly couldn’t in any way use any of the goods portrayed in these ads.
Amazing video; such a reminder as what some of us have been aware of all our lives. It makes no sense does it-that our 4 leggers have the opportunity for better activism against abuse than half the human species. Burn it down in your own corner of the world, don’t put up with it, don’t purchase from and do not condone. Wrong is wrong, cruelty is cruelty and it must be understood this is not advertising it is and has been systematic brainwashing.
Just look at msnbc’s lineup on weekends. Endless stories about victimizing some woman somewhere. It’s also in programming, in a more subtle form.
thank you for the excellent post.
The primary people in power are MEN. Perhaps if women were treated equal, some would not resort to sexuality to get ahead.
If women were taught as little girls that their worth is not what they can give to men but what they can give to themselves, they would not allow themselves to be treated this way.
In other countries, the women simply have no choice. Many women in this country are giving away their dignity and many it is stolen from them.
Very, very sad.
If women were taught as little girls that their worth is not what they can give to men but what they can give to themselves, they would not allow themselves to be treated this way.
You’re kidding, right? When we speak up we’re called vulgar and vile names … when do little boys need a lesson? When do their daddies start to take some responsibility? After their own daughters are at peril? Please.
I think hell will freeze over before large numbers of men take up the fight. Pornography addiction is a huge problem even in the churches. Since girls bear the brunt of misogyny in society, the task of changing attitudes in boys and girls will fall to mothers and teachers–women. Unfortunately, too many of them can’t see the harm in putting their daughters, starting as young as 5, in sexy cheer-leader outfits to cheer for the boys on the peewee football team. Have you been to a junior high pep rally lately? It is shocking and disgusting to watch the dance team in their flashy outfits line up in front of the football team to do their routine, which includes bending over to flash their butts in the boys’ faces. Perhaps if the mothers and fathers could somehow magically hear the thoughts going through the heads of the boys and men in the stands, they would think twice about this ‘innocent’ tradition.
word.
Well I don’t give a rat’s ass what names anyone calls me…I don’t need a man to stand up for me, I stand up for myself and do just fine. Women waiting for a man to defend them is perpetuating the myth that women can’t stand up for themselves…no?
Speechless.
Very, very well done.
As a subscriber to several of the mags that displayed those disgusting ads i thought I’d become numb to the offensive images. To my surprise, I HADN’T seen it all. Of course, my outrage is insignificant because I don’t regularly buy Jimmy Choo’s, so I’m realistic enough to know that protests will do no good as long as the people who design these ads and those who approve their use in print accept them.
The real targets for our outrage should be editors like Anna Wintour who have the final say in whether these pix see the light of day. Misogyny will be a profitable business as long as we keep buying the mags and viewing the ads. JMHO
Very shocking and disturbing.
As someone above noted, it would only have been an iota more poignant with a picture of Favreau inserted.
Let’s all work on violence against women in all its ugly forms. Please join us at The New Agenda – this is one of our organization’s major focuses for 2009.
Wow. Just – wow.
For those of you with daughters or sons, or nieces and nephews – or who just seek understanding and how to begin to move past this, I recommend ‘The Lolita Effect’ by M. Gigi Durham.
Basil,
Regarding your comment – Unfortunately, in many ways women are more avid and loyal followers of patriarchy than men. For women to take action against this kind of violent sexism they must first understand what the issues are. The Campaign for Gender Equality (www.campaignforgenderequality.org) has partnered with Professor Bettina Aptheker, head of the Feminist Studies department at the University of California, Santa Cruz (UCSC). Bettina has just released a 17-DVD set (a broadcast quality recording) of her very important class Introduction to Feminisms.
There’s a lot of information out there but it not always available and easy to understand. Aptheker’s Introduction to Feminisms paints the whole picture. Professor Aptheker explains gender INequailty and how far we have come in the last 40 years but what still needs to change in an entertaining and engaging way. Her 17 lectures will increase your knowledge of sexism, racism and homophobia and how they are all connected and contribute to gender INequality in this country and around the world. I am older and have been around but this painted the whole picture for me – Information is power.
The 17-DVD set is available at: http://www.introtofem.org for only $20….such a deal!!!
Thanks.
I will check it out.
Why is anyone surprised? We live in a society in which SNUFF FILMS exist. You’d be shocked to know the people you might admire who have seen them. I did some research on it and it’s appalling. A room full of men with a box of kleenex jerking off to a woman literally being murdered on camera. WTF? Violence towards women, and the fact that it is a sexual turn on for some men, has gone on since the beginning of time. Too bad we have a buffoon usurping the White House who himself pisses on women…Good luck trying to get help from the idiot who flipped Hillary off and called Palin a pig. Oh well.
Thank you, New Hampster!!
It is horrific. And I cannot help but be reminded of the misogyny and sexism that was hurled at Clinton by the media and BO and his campaign.
This was an eye-opening video.
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Before everyone gets all nutty about what women in America DON’T HAVE…remember that genital mutilation is alive and well in Africa. Yeah, I know because I have a project about it. Seems odd in 2008, right? The reason, or a big reason, that I love being AMERICAN is that women here have WAY more to be thankful for THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. That’s why I keep puking on the so called “progressives” who make it their daily mission to crap on this fine country.
Men jerk off to SNUFF FILMS. How do you explain that? Bondage and really SICK ASS pornography turns a lot of men on. Hmmm…maybe it’s not something we will overcome overnight. And I agree with basil…as long as women MAKE those kinds of films, pose for the photos, etc. then they are COMPLICATE in the hate and violence. I don’t have the answer to stop it. But please grow up and understand that this problem has been going on since the beginning of time, and STILL exists in WAY bigger ways in other countries.
When I see liberal “feminists” piss on America and other women…all I can say is GO LIVE IN AFRICA and then tell me what a piece of crap America is.
Excellent point.
I’ve spent a bit of time in the Caribbean — and this is an extremely misogynistic region.
Girls become mistresses of the rich guys at a very young age. These men often have government jobs and when the young women graduate they often go to work for the government as “secretaries”. Very often there will be an office full of “secretaries” and perhaps one young lady really knows how to be a real secretary. This doesn’t happen on all islands — nor in all Government agencies — but enough so that people who have lived or grown up in the Caribbean can identify with the generic islands and come up with even more details.
It is also the custom for men to have many relationships and several families — it is confusing — but the children seem to know who their half brothers and sisters are. There are several calypso songs with this theme — along the lines of –(father) don’t marry him — he’s your half brother — not so (says mother) — that’s what he thinks.
Throughout most of the world women have difficult lives — but you know — we women expect BETTER here in America. Because we bought into the Democracy myth — but democracy isn’t for women — or it is only if we keep our place and keep our god damned mouths shut.
We have made some progress in the last 40 years — but not enough that our progress is secure. And not enough that girls and young women don’t understand that they are being used by men. These men use women to enforce the patriarchy rules — it may seem like women are doing the enforcing — sort of like the slave masters using slaves to keep the slaves in line.
I’m not disagreeing that women’s lives in other countries are usually far worse than women’s lives here. But I don’t understand your vitriol being directed at women here for protesting the inequality here. Are you suggesting that American women may not complain until everyone else’s situation is corrected first? That’s the kind of thinking that got women the right to vote 50 years after black men. I’ll pass, thx.
Also, do you truly think that there are no snuff films being made here? No women held prisoner in dungeons as sex slaves? No little kids being held prisoner as indentured servants (slaves)? No genital mutilation practiced in America? No trafficked women? Reality check: there are.
Twenty-three years ago, one of rock’s most successful perfomers, Pat Benatar, released her seventh album, Seven the Hard Way. It included a song that was in the Top 40 this week in 1986 that attacked the media’s use of sex. The song was called (rather fittingly) “Sex as a Weapon”.
Pat’s noted her only regret with the song was not using the full chorus line of “Stop using sex as a weapon” for the title because she believes that many radio stations were reluctant to play a song that used “sex” in the title, especially paired with “weapon”.
The video may be a bit tame compared to the “Burn It Down” one, but is still quite strong (even tackling the sacred James Bond image, and, of course, by the mid 1970s, the only requirement for women in a Bond film was to be stunning because, whether friend or foe, her ultimate purpose was to be conquered by Bond and then dumped).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypNE8R3E1Lc
It’s time women in this country start DEMANDING gender parity and an end to misogyny. We’ve been pussy footing around for three decades now.
I don’t know what happened to women’s groups and feminist leaders who seem to have adopted the “request it, be diplomatic about it, work within the system for it, complain about it, whine about it, plead for change” approach to achieving women’s rights.
Look at the bottomless hole feminist leaders dug for us in this election season with the “go along to get along” strategy!
Are they all afraid of the media hate barrage they would have to endure? Are they afraid of the male and (most hurtful) female ridicule certain to come? Are they afraid of the national backlash politicians, media, corporate America and conservatives are certain to unload on them?
It’s time to stand up and fight the battle – like Hillary Clinton did. Like Sarah Palin did.
Women are the majority of the population in this country. Women control most of the money in this country. Women are the major consumers in this country. Women control the vote in this country. Women already have the power right in their hapless damned hands!!!
That’s why men hold on so tightly to power and work so hard to beat the crap out of any women who dares step up to her rightful place in society. They’re afraid because they know how vulnerable they are. Basically, if women would get off their duffs and fight the good fight, men would collapse in a scared sh*tless tsunami.
To hell with asking and appealing and pleading. It’s time to boycott right and left – and start suing the crap out of everybody in sight who is violating our already constitutionally guaranteed rights.
It’s all right there for the taking if women and feminist leadership could get up half the nerve Sarah and Hillary have in their right and left pinkies respectively.
The so called “feminists” in this country were too busy attacking Sarah Palin this year to get anything done. Quite frankly NOW is where I would start the trashing and rebuilding the women’s movement. They seem a tad out of touch, and really not pro-modern women.
Women are the biggest fans of female sexual castration right here in the US, except they call it a hysterctomy.
The biggest abuse of women comes at the hands of their physicianss who drug them massively with anti-depressants and formerly with HRT drugs – all of which have been shown to harm them. To have the largest selling class of drugs -anti-depressants – sold mainly to women in the US means US women are very, very, very sick.
And rather than get well, they want instead to drag other women down to their same level. Women on women violence is far more deadly – and it kills far more slowly only after sucking the life and vitality out of their victims.
Spare me your faux pity about African mutilations and Chinese foot-binding when you still accept without a whimper the massive medical abuse of women right here in the US.
Unless women respect themselves and others, raise their children to respect themselves and others and take responsibility for themselves and not expect others to take the responsibility for them, nothing will change.
Every woman should be insulted that this guy using the name NewHampster who opens his post with “My goddess…”First off, NewHampster is a male who does porn. He likes and approves of porn.
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