So Now How Do You Feel?
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on January 5, 2009 at 11:45 AM in Abortion, Bamboozling, Barack Obama, DNC, Emily's list, Vice President
All of the women’s groups who endorsed Obama, all of the women who flocked to him, claiming he was SO great on women’s rights and the best choice on issues of choice? I ask because guess who is going to be taking over the DNC? Tim Kaine. Remember him? Maybe this post I wrote back in July will help jog your memory:
My, my – funny how things happen. You would have to be living on the moon to not hear about ALL of the people Obama is considering for his Patsy, uh, I mean Vice President. All kinds of names have been thrown out from Chuck Hagel to Joe Biden. The current major leak (but really you are all supposed to know about it – shhhhh!) has Tim Kaine, Governor of VA, as a likely candidate.
Never heard of him? Yeah, well, we lived in VA when Mark Warner was governor, and he was GREAT. Kaine was his Lt. Governor, so when Warner’s terms was up (VA permits ONE six year term – that’s it), Kaine rode in on his coattails.
He hasn’t done a whole lot since then, at least not a lot of positive changes for which he is receiving any accolades. BUT – Obama stumped for him in VA, and Kaine has been stumping for Obama around the world, uh, I mean, COUNTRY, and now they are BFFs! Woohoo!!!!
Kaine has now moved to the short list for VP!! Gosh – he must be really experienced, and his constituents must really love him, right?? Uh, no. Like Obama (wow – I almost typed “Bush” then – I am not kidding, and it isn’t just because I’m tired!), Kaine isn’t all that experienced, certainly not in important matters like foreign affairs. Which would help since Obama has no experience, even with his NINE DAY trip!!!! A whole nine days – that is enough, right??? No. No, Obama, it is not even anywhere in the same ballpark as REAL experience, like Clinton’s. But you know that already. You’re just trying to appease your cultists, um, ah, I mean FOLLOWERS. Oh, that isn’t right, either – SUPPORTERS! Yes, that is what politicians are supposed to have – supporters Okay. Got it. Anywho…
Ahem. Since you may know NOTHING about Gov. Kaine, he is personally opposed to the death penalty as a practicing Catholic, but when he campaigned as a gubernatorial candidate, he assured people he would not impose him personal beliefs on the state. In other words, he would not prohibit death penalty executions. Wow – what a stand up guy. He was not going to allow his personal faith to supersede the Commonwealth of Virginia’s laws (and I hasten to say that I am completely opposed to the death penalty – always have been). Well, okay then.
Oh, but wait – there is more. While Governor Kaine wouldn’t impose his religious beliefs on the death penalty, he had/has NO problem imposing them on the issue of – wait – for – it, yes, ABORTION!! So, a woman better not kill a zygote, but it’s A-OKAY to kill a full-grown adult. Yes, indeedy! That makes sense, right?? Oh, yeah, NO. Governor Kaine, before he was governor, said he had a “faith-based opposition” to abortion, and vowed to promote ABSTINENCE focused education – you know, the one that doesn’t WORK. And to ban so-called partial-birth abortions. This was a more popular position in VA than his opposition to the death penalty. In other words, his faith-based opposition takes a backseat to political aspiration. One was not politically expedient – the death penalty issue. The other one was – abortion. Regardless, now that Obama has secured the endorsements of NARAL, and even more importantly, for the second time ever in presidential politics, Planned Parenthood’s, it makes PERFECT sense that he would target an anti-choice candidate to run as Vice President. It highlights that some of the very few times Obama exposed his true colors was his exceedingly patronizing comments to/about women and when they can/not choose to have an abortion.
What’s that I hear? Oh, it is Planned Parenthood being thrown under the bus. And NARAL. Couldn’t happen to two more deserving organizations supporting OBAMA over CLINTON after all of the work she has done on behalf of women, and the sexist, patronizing, arrogant way in which Obama has treated women, especially on choice!
So, all of you Obamabots trying to hold Roe v. Wade over our heads, what say you NOW, huh??? Really think he is not going to turn back the clock on women’s rights like you claim McCain will do, and Obama won’t? Because I think you are dead wrong. He doesn’t give a damn about women and our health. He has made that abundantly clear. In the same way he proved he doesn’t give a crap about the Constitution voting for FISA and telecom immunity (AT&T welcomes you to the Denver Democratic National Convention – I kid you not!), oh, and PLEASE stop calling him a “Constitutional Scholar” – he was a lecturer at the same law school he had just attended. It’s like being a TA, for crying out loud. And he has made it clear as day – HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION! He cares about getting money, and getting elected. Your lives will be SO much smoother once you accept that! He will say and do whatever he has to do to accomplish those two tasks. So, quit with the whole Roe v. Wade scare tactic, because Obama DOES NOT CARE ABOUT WOMEN and our health. He does not. Too bad Planned Parenthood and NARAL apparently cared more about publicity (and money?? Does anyone know if Obama’s “Hope PAC” gave them money?) than they did about supporting the candidate who would work the hardest for the issues about which they claim to care. Thanks a whole lot for the capitulation there, PP and NARAL. How do you people sleep at night?
So, Tim thinks we should care what he thinks about abortion, like so many other men. And he wants to impose HIS “faith-based opposition” on VA, and presumably, the country, should the world got to hell in a handbasket and Obama gets into the White House with him. Holy Cow…
What a surprise that Obama finds a way to get Gov. Kaine in after all. Cough. Ahem. It may not be VP, but a pretty plum choice nonetheless. Kaine and Rick Warrencan have themselves a good ol’ time at the Inauguration talking strategy about getting rid of Roe v. Wade. I’m just sayin’…
Oh, yes. And in the, “Isn’t it Ironic” file, there is this THIS article from November 12, 2008:
Gov. Timothy M. Kaine ruled out serving a new Democratic White House as chairman of the Democratic National Committee on Wednesday.
Speculation about Kaine heading the party began after DNC Chairman Howard Dean announced Monday he will step down in January.
Kaine said at a news conference Obama’s transition team asked him if he was interested in the position. He said his response was that he’d rather be governor and won’t do both jobs.
“That’s not something I’m going to do. I don’t view that, frankly, as consistent with being governor, so I’m going to be governor,” Kaine said. “I would view it as taking my eye too much off the ball about things that need to happen here.”
Except, apparently, it IS!!! Ah, more honest and trustworthy politicians in the Democratic Party! So, not only is Kaine rabidly anti-choice, he’s also a big liar! Great! He should fit right on in with the Obama people, don’t you think? I think his response to the possibility of being in Obama’s cabinet highlights just how well:
For Kaine to accept an immediate appointment to an Obama Cabinet post would force him to turn the final year of his term over to Republican Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling.“It’s not turning the keys over to Bill Bolling that worries me. It’s that I took an oath to be here for my whole term … and I have communicated that to the president-elect already,” Kaine said.
“We had talked about it a number of weeks back, but we’ve communicated since the election and I’ve made that point” to Obama, he said.
And how do you folks like THAT in the great Commonwealth of Virginia?!? Sounds to me like Kaine’s attentions just might be a tad divided…I sure hope you didn’t buy his double speak.
But hey, this is Kaine’s payment (hmmm, that seems to be a common theme) for being the first governor to endorse Obama, and to work his little heart out for him making sure all of those felons were registered as they walked out the door of the prison (felons in VA lose their voting rights for life – unless the governor restores them). As is so often the case with Obama, this is a two-fer – he can pay back Gov. Kaine, and NARAL, PPA, Emily’s List, and NOW all at the same time!! So, thanks – thanks so much for throwing us all under the bus supporting this Hope-y Change-y guy, who isn’t all that change-y at all. Those of us who were paying attention are not surprised. Maybe deep down, you aren’t, either, but it’s too damn late now, isn’t it? Way to sell us out. Thanks a lot for nothing.
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Great post RRRAmy…Like I said…the Fraudbama voters are going to get the karmic payback they deserve. And I hope their heads are spinning BIG TIME over the complete idiocy of these continual assaults on their votes.
The tax cuts, without addressing the deficit, and the reasons FOR the deficit, will simply lead to more economic decay, this in spite of the proposed spending.
Obama brought in the SAME people who put us in this mess, economically, did you forget, already?
Checking the dreaded Wal Mart site, I found, yesterday, they are now offering a brand name perscription asthma medication for 9.00, flat.
Normally, with my co pay, it’s 25.00 — two family memebers with asthma, that’s 50.00 a month, after I meet my persription yearly deductible of 350.00, combined, for both family memebers. (Drug is still on patent, not offered in generic).
So, Wal Mart will charge me 18.00, rather than 350.00, leaving me a gain of 332.00 for the month of Jan.
This is how you put money in people’s pockets, THIS is what they need to address — if WalMart can do it, why can’t the government?
Sure, it’s a good deal. Bear in mind, however, that this is what is commonly called a loss leader sales strategy.
The real problem with astronomical prescription drug costs lies elsewhere. Consider: Lipitor 20mg tablets retail for around $272.37 per 100 tablets; the cost to the manufacturer of the active ingredient is $5.82 per 100. Xanax 1mg tabs retail for about $136.79 per 100; the active ingredient in that same 100 tablets costs the manufacturer $0.024. That’s a mark-up from the manufacturer to final consumer of 569,958%. One hundred tables of Prozac 20mg will cost you $247.47; the cost to manufacture that 100 tablets was 11 cents, for a mark-up of 224,973%. (All figures as of 2005.)
Isn’t unfettered capitalism wonderful?
BTW, I totally agree with your observation about tax cuts in times of deficit spending. There’s never been a question in my mind about the dire consequences of deficit spending. The only legitimate debate is about who should be paying more taxes.
Given the history of the two gentlemen concerned here, are you really surprised?
Wow! Denial really is more than a river in Egypt.
You mean to tell me that the DNC chair, who just so happened helped to steal the nomination for the Fraudbama, and who is instrumental in setting the Democratic Party’s platform, is a trivial matter?
Are you one of those Dems who believed that stealing votes from one candidate and giving them to another while violating its own committee rules and long-standing party tradition was just SOP? Of course the party never held roll call votes to decide who the nominee would be, right?
When are people going to wake up to the fact that the PROCESS is just as important as the result? That how one votes is an indication of how one thinks? And that who you appoint or associate with has bearing on your integrity?
this is a reply to SFHillary
Mountains from molehills, as always. What matters is the stimulus package, getting the economy moving again, ending the war, national health care. Stop obsessing about trivia. Pretty please?
gender-equality is trivia??? grow up.
You tell ‘em benny…since when is Civil Rights trivial!
uh …. they got themselves the bro’ prezdent so they think that civil rights is finished ….
Well, it seemed trivial enough to all y’all back when you were supporting Sarah Palin and her anti-choice, anti-contraception, anti-rape-kit record.
more lies. Palin is pro-life, but NOT anti-contraception & the whole anti-rape kit myth is inaccurate–it is the state police’s decision. Please do your homework.
I guess there will always be something “more important” than the truth.
Why is it “trivia?” I have to sit here and watch filth like Fraudbama destroy America when it was a bunch of
bitchesso called “feminists” who destroyed Palin over her choice to give birth to her special needs baby, rather than abort it. These social issues played a large part in the 2008 election and by no means are they trivial to those of us who wanted a REAL President and not this farce. Do you really think Fraudbama is going to get anything done anyway? ROFLMAO. No, he’s not. Unless it’s the making of a bigger mess than we have now.What’s ROLFMAO?
That’s R O F L M A O (you switched the “F” and the “L”).
It’s netspeak for
R olling
O n (the)
F loor
L aughing
M y
A ss
O ff
(Some netspeakers use ROTFLMAO, but the T-less form is more common. Obviously, the actual words in the acronym don’t have the spaces; I just put them there for emphasis.)
Thanks, I was close but not sure.
Great post Rev Amy. I’m waiting to see when Obama’s sweeties are going to wake up. Wait until Miz Oprah, Miz Donna, Miz Caroline, Miz Janet, and the rest go under the bus. It may be subtle and it will take them awhile to understand that for him it will always be “Bros before Hos”. His excuse is that he painted himself as this “fatherless chile” and they all ran to support the foundling. And the black community has no idea how low the white male DNC set the bar for him to be a candidate.
Helen, they all ran to MOTHER the foundling.
And I know that is a sexist thing to say. But then again I really believed that NOW, NARAL, and PP were composed of real feminists and not a bunch of women looking for a daddy to save them so they could mother him in the process.
If I see one more woman fawning over Obama I’m going to upchuck!
You’re right, “What the SF!” Everyone line up to support Obush ‘08 right now! I mean pretty please.
Oh by the way, in your esteemed opinion, when will it be appropriate for people to begin to question That ONE? It seems not long ago you accused people on this blog of being unpatriotic because we’re questioning That One already. You said we should support That ONE because he was going to be the PRESIDENT, just like you supported Bush eventhough you didn’t vote for him.
So how long was it before you starting questioning Bush? And in what manner did you show your objections or did you sit idlely because he was YOUR PRESIDENT?
So when would it be appropriate to question That One, a month from now, a year from now, if ever?
Stop the hate or the love whichever one it is you have!
PS “What the SF”
What part of Reaganomics did you love? Since That One admired him so much, what part did you admire?
Can you tell me again why I should listen to a Bush supporter?
Stop the lovefest!
I will support BHO just as soon as he earns it (and sitting in the Oval Office is not earning it). I am not holding my breath.
“Oh by the way, in your esteemed opinion, when will it be appropriate for people to begin to question That ONE? It seems not long ago you accused people on this blog of being unpatriotic because we’re questioning That One.”
If you have questions about That ONE..leave the SparkPeople.com “Proud Blue Liberal” Team. I just was threatened to be kicked off the team because I was not infected with Obama-mania…and had the audacity to question the qualifications of their Messiah.
NOW it’s trivia? It was Obama supporters coming here over and over screaming Roe v Wade!
Now it’s a trivial issue.
So let’s see reproductive rights are a major issue when being used to beat folks into line to support Obama.
Those same rights are now a minor issue when Obama appoints an anti-choice person.
The hypocrisy, it burns.
Easy for you to say, you don’t have tire marks on your face, after the bus backed up. Your turn will soon come, its just a matter of time, before you are thrown under the bus too.
When it does, don’t blame me, I voted for Hillary!
look like SF has been trained well. she knows her place – in Obama’s pocket as his little tool.
Excellent article, Rev. Amy. Tim Kaine….what a choice (pun intended). The obamacrats are taking over. Whats the difference between the repubs and obamacrats…. nothing.
Hello Benny!
Obama has seen the briefings and understands that the far left are radical America haters. The problem is that he has to throw the entire left wing under the bus to placate the centrists and those on the right.
I believe that you can be centrist and still embrace gender equality and civil rights for gays.
Obama is scared of the thought of being a one termer with scandals throughout his presidency.
That is why he is trying real hard to embrace the right who in an ironic twist may support him more than the left wing loonies
Hey Seattle, haven’t seen you in a while. How are you???
This faux-democrat (Obama) is making the repubs look good. Just imagine the irony!!!
And Tim Kaine???? Now we got Obots (who call themselves democrats) trying to defend this anti-abortion guy. Is that stupid or what???
Just proves that they’re not democrats, just obamacrats. In love with the ‘One’. lol
Hey Moss!
You are absolutely right about the left being radical America haters. But THEY are the Obots so WTF? Anyway, poor Fraud. He’s got nothing but pathetic scandals and filthy politicians surrounding him and he’s not even in office yet. I doubt the hard right is ever going to support the Fraud because, well, he’s a FRAUD. But it’s really fun watching the
Wing Nut Liberal Looney Tunes“progressives” realizing they bought a pig in a poke. LOL LOL LOL.Hello OIAF!
So far Oblah is choosing folks for his cabinet which placate to my sensibilities. But we all know that Oblah is a gamer and just wants to win people like me over to help him when the scandals come home to roost.
You mean Judas Richardson was in line with your sensibilities Moss?
Oh well.
NOOOOOO!
The Judas was never on my list.
However, Hillary remaking the entire state department is very high on my approval list.
Retaining Gates and most of the Bush anti-terrorism bureaucracy is also a very smart move.
I know this will piss off some but the selection of Warren shows a willingness to bridge the divide.
Remember…I give credit where it is do regardless of who is in charge.
Bush has kept us safe since 911..I give him credit.
Obama has seen the terror briefings so I believe that he wants to protect this country and his family from attack.
Well Moss, God bless you. I can’t share your feelings about the mess I predict will happen immediately after the Fraud usurps the White House. But it’s nice to “see” you and Happy New Year!
Happy New Year to you B!!
I hope you go far with your production this year…The year of the scandal!
You have seen a picture of Moss. Now how about a picture of my precious OIAF.
Oh Mossy, I would be happy to fling a pick at you. How do I do that?
I’m excited now!!
Just send a link to this comment…
B,
I’m going to have Susan forward my private e-mail. Then maybe we can send pictures and stuff….
Moss, come on let’s call the Warren selection what it was — political payback! Obama don’t care about bridging any divide. If he did, then why not choose a pastor that evangelicals love and who has been around for a long time — Pat Robertson, or even Billy Graham, Jr.?
Fembot..You might be correct on the selection being payback.
I’m not sure why Oblah would pick Warren except to infuriate the gay community. Maybe he has calculated that he gets those votes anyway and wants to appear conservative.
I know this for a fact…Many AA voted for their rights but couldn’t care less about gay rights.
Well I would think that Warren was a payback for Saddleback, remember? The LIES about McCain being able to hear the interview? And Warren did seem a little prejudiced to the Fraud. Maybe it’s the same Pay to Play thing going on. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit. It’s all so filthy my head is spinning.
B
Everyone that supported Oblah was in on the pay to play program.
The only folks not included were Hillary and all her supporters.
It’s not just the gay community he’s infuriating with the Warren pick. It’s the domestic violence community, the choice community. Warren is a jackass. I’m a feminist leader in my community and I spoke out over and over against this big Zero (O), crossed party lines, like so many others here, to vote McCain/Palin and now that it’s almost January 20th I truly feel assaulted by That One. We’re in a horrible economic mess and That One wants a week to party his “historical success” (Barf), he wants to golf and vacation and vaction and golf. Is this what he’s going to do when Putin calls his bluff, go on vacation to play golf? I’m not laughing, this cannot be good for our nation.
Warren is a bigot. Having Warren at the inaugural is analogous to having a KKK leader in full regalia there. Bridging a divide, my arse!
It really is about the money and the Evangelical Right voting block for 2012.
On a more insidious note, the Warren pick is also about Obama hiding his own sexual identity in the darkest corners of the closet.
Trixta
You might be on to something there!
correct, trixta. i think that what we’re seeing is the outcome of the fact that women and gays gave it away for free to obama, and nobody pays for something that they can get for free.
women and gays made it clear that obama can treat them as badly as he wants and they will still vote for him. given this, it makes perfect sense that obama is ignoring them and flat-out disrespecting them; he knows that there will be no consequences and all he has to do now is work on pulling in votes from the right so he’ll be a shoo-in in 2012.
He could have picked many other conservative ministers to “bridge the divide,”(which I believe is just an excuse since his idea of inclusion only seems to include evangelical Christian ministers), but he chose Warren who equated gay marriage to incest, polygamy, and PEDOPHILIA!!! Not to mention his medieval views of women “submitting to their husbands.” Choosing a fundamentalist bigot is inexcusable–period. ESPECIALLY from a supposed Democrat.
I agree with you…it’s appalling. But I didn’t vote for Fraudbama so I just get to sit and watch the idiots who DID vote for him try to explain his totally INSANE behavior that controverts EVERYTHING he said to get “selected.” It’s the one thing that keeps me sane, knowing that America has just been victim of the biggest con job in history.
SEATTLE MOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Long time —
how are you?
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Back on topic — The trolls are thick — no matter what 0zero does — these jerks will find a way to defend the monster.
The more things change, the more they remain the same. Why am I not surprised?
Wow, abortion rights are TRIVIA now? Is this the post-election obot talking point on abortion? I thought abortion rights were the main reason why we had to vote for Obama. We could not take a chance on another conservative being appointed to the Supreme Court. My head is spinning.
Roe v Wade will never be turned over. All the talk on either side – it will never happen. Partial birth abortion, maybe….
Wow, abortion rights are TRIVIA now?
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How times change and priorities eh. These were the same folks waving cyber hangers at us and saying ‘CHOICE’ was THE ONLY FEMINIST ISSUE! {{{Shaking my head}}}
Yepper … wasn’t Palin going to make us all carry “damaged” babies and deny abortion even in the case of rape? What the Hell?
Kaine has said that he personally opposes abortion, but doesn’t support overturning Roe v Wade. That’s saying that he supports choice. He doesn’t want to change the law to meet his personal beliefs. Is it mandatory for everyone in the Democratic Party to completely agree with you on every issue?
If anyone wonders if the Fraud is still paying subhuman IQ Trolls to post here…read ^^^^^^ and weep. What a dumbazz thing to say.
Why is it a dumbass thing to say? Just because you say it is doesn’t make it so.
And for the love of God, I don’t get paid to post at this site; that’s just your attempt to undercut what I say, but it’s not true. Yes, I know, surprise, surprise, OIAF, something you posted isn’t true.
Do you READ, troll? You apparently are MISSING THE POINT of RRRAmy’s post AND you are MISSING THE POINT of the hypocrisy of your boss, the Fraud and the sheer PANIC that every freak on the planet HAD to vote for the FRAUD otherwise they would be stuck with politicians who didn’t support civil rights. LOL you trolls kill me.
I said Kaine supports choice. His statements back that up. What information do you have that says he doesn’t? Keep in mind that there’s a difference between supporting limitations (most of which I don’t agree with) and supporting the abolition of abortion.
Like I said, you’re missing the point entirely. But what can we expect?
The point of the post above is that Kaine doesn’t support the rights of women, and women’s groups that supported Obama are getting (in the most tired phrase on this board) thrown under the bus. I said he does support the right to choose, because he supports keeping Roe v Wade, thus the original poster is wrong. What don’t I get?
Your master has a position based solely upon the prevailing political wind or which side of his mouth is doing the talking from which personality. WHAT part of that don’t YOU get?
And to think that some people think that obtuse is merely a triangle … the triangulating that goes on is unbelievable … they forgive him FISA, Warren, just about anything. He could piss in this bot’s open mouth and he’d swear it was lemonade ….
Indeed. Like That One and Chimpy, the bots are loathe to ever admit they might have been wrong about anything for any reason. Authority is theirs; responsibility belongs to others.
Well, we did do a primal scream when NARAL endorsed Obama, but NO ONE LISTENED!
You don’t get that any interference into choice rights (i.e., limitations, “partial birth” abortion stats) are cutting into Roe v. Wade, albeit through the back door? One can support Roe v. Wade in theory, but undermine Roe through action. That is what Kaine does.
BTW, that is what all the women’s groups were furious about, guilt-tripped us about, and called us fake feminists because we didn’t support Barky.
Well said, FembotsFO!
Obots are sexist pigs —
Their support of 0zero is proof that they are not logical thinking people — they are primitive jerks (aka — sexist pigs).
skinny
I live in Virginia and actually voted for Kaine before the Democratic party was hijacked and subverted by BO’s thugs. I can tell you also that I am Catholic just like Kaine and he used his religion to get the votes. He told Catholics that he was staunchly pro life(and he is) but that he wouldn’t come out aganist Roe v Wade. In other words he had it both ways, who does that sound like? I wish I had known then what I know now because when he endorsed the liar I became sick that I had voted for him. Everyone and everything that BO come is contact with is becoming tainted–Kaine endorsed him because he thought BO would name him VP(as I’m sure BO’s people gave him some encouragement in that regard just to get the endorsement). Now it’s payback time for Kaine because he knows once his term is up he’s finished as a politician(maybe he’ll go back to being a missionary. The truth is he’s a liar like his pal Barry and all liars stick together.
It’s not true, I tell you, it’s not true!
You’ve got to believe me to make me credible!
I swear I don’t get paid to post here. I have a valid point dang it and you need to listen to me.
Ha, Ha, Ha!
Stop the lovefest!
Believe me, if I got paid to post, I would surely go to a more relevant site that actually has credibility. This site is mostly populated by conspiracy theorists whose only goal is to insult Obama and anyone who says anything not negative about him, and spread malicious romors that have no grounding in reality. If you think in some way that this site is relevant to the outside world, you’re hilariously mistaken.
Skanky…Uhhhh….then you can leave, right? Do we have a gun to your head? Also, no one here is a conspiracy nut you fool. EVERYTHING that is posted about the Fraud here is the truth that you nuts refuse to admit. We document it, post videos, links to news sources, etc. No one makes this crap up about the Fraud. It’s just pathetic that you Obots are still so naive and blind about the TRUTH. Oh well. That will change. Come back in six months and try your crap about the FRAUD. ROFLMAO.
I’ve said it a million times, I’m entertained by posting here. Unlike most of the regulars (you, Ferd, obamastolemyboyfriend, strawberrybitch, etc) I don’t insult people or call people names just because they disagree with me, I just like to point out the BS and complete lack of reality many on this board are afllicted with. It amuses me. And I’ll post here until I’m bored of it, or until I’m banned, which I’m sure some people are just dying to see happen.
Actually, you people entertain US too. Somewhat. Once in a while I do have to remember that it’s you people who hate America so much you voted for that idiot. Post away troll. Post until your delusional little fingers fall off.
Oh, dry up, Sparky Malarkey. Crap comes from your keyboard that isn’t fit for anything other than disposal as a listed waste.
You suffer from selective indignation and memory as well as having a faulty moral compass.
ROFLMAO…You GO Ferd!
selective indignation
- lol, this is the truth!!
your comments about our lack of reality are INSULTING although you claim to be polite and logical. The fact is you Obama lovers just can’t accept the numerous pieces of evidence in front of you. Even the Arab world is starting to wake up to the fraud. Most of us spend time even replying because we have been where you are now. I’ve been a recovering loyal Democratic Party member for over 20 years for about a year now.
Kaine’s appointment as DNC chair is an insult to women and gays! Dean was an insult as well. Although he seemed to promise much in the beginning, and many of us put up with seemingly invisible presence in the daily goings on of the party with his emphasis on the 50-state formula, he delivered the most misogynist campaign that he claimed he didn’t know was a problem for women, then after the election vowed to change it.
Ha! Well played.
Right, as if somebody would be paying people to post on this site, as if noquarter were at all relevant to the real world. (snicker)
thats why you’re here. (snicker)
LOL Benny…they talk about our “bs” but they sure do hang around a lot. Hmmmmm….
lol. they’re mindless obama-worshipping obots. Facts would never matter to them. Whatever the ‘One’ says, they follow.
Facts mean nothing to pre-formatted, pre-fabricated Obamazerotrons.
Yet you post comments pro bono. I suppose that speaks volumes about you, asshat.
For such as those, “pro bono” is still overpaying them.
LMAO Indeed, they should be paying Larry for the opportunity to come here and post such hazardous rubbish.
Yes, but aren’t Skanky and Asshat a great tag team? You always know something is up with the Fraud when they send in two trolls together on the attack.
Tag-team-ROFL. Too bad that together they don’t possess an IQ that adds up to fifty otherwise they could be the first siamese twins on a prexy transition team.
LOL Ferd…I’m serious though. Watch when they send in two together. They play off each other and it’s really rather cutesie, if not predictable as hell. These two would be fun to play with if it didn’t start getting Y-A-W-N over this Roe V. Wade stuff. Don’t they give these boobs a “playbook” or something? Maybe we should write letters to Camp Fraudbama and ask them to update it with some more fun topics. Otherwise….Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…..
Yeah, it reminds me of the tag-teams of Francis the Talking Mule Troll and Kelvin or ee and (Little) Debbie or Detractor and Bob–the bottomless buffoonery was non-stop.
It reminds me of redneck mud wrestling at the Tropicana.
LMAO
Francis the Talking Mule Troll
had me at zero to 100 in 3 seconds….
was he man or woMEN?
Oh, no, certainly not as relevant as those
cesspools full of f*cked up morons who wouldn’t know the Constitution if it bit them in their lemming assesfine examples of journalistic neutrality, Obamington Post and Daily Pus. Oh, yes, they have taken the high road all along and certainly stand on consecrated moral high ground, compared to NQ, right? RIGHT????What we are seeing is the result of the dumbing down of the American education system over the last several decades. In order to raise the self-esteem of the lowest underachievers, we have systematically brought all our citizens down to their same level – with initiatives such as the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. That anyone would tap someone from the Chicago Public School system to head up his administration’s national education initiatives shows just what a dolt our PEBO really is. I personally believe this has been the real goal for decades – raise an uneducated citizenry, incapable of critical independent thought, easily manipulated by a complicit propoganda machine worthy of Goebbels, who will walk willingly and joyfully into the metaphorical political gas chamber, kissing the ring and chanting the praises of their executioner all the way……the goal being the death of democracy while making people think we are more democratic than ever. You can do anything with stupid people, convince them of anything, make them hate anything, make them love anything, make them think they think when they really just regurgitate pre-programmed talking points, manipulate them any way you want – because we are turning out empty vessels from our schools.
Remind you of anyone? Anyone? Anyone at all?
skinny malinky — why are you even here? It’s ironic how you Obots claim we dissenters are irrelevant, but then are still obsessed about what we think of your Precious. Perhaps deep down you know we are right.
sounds like Gov. Kaine’s position on abortion is similar to Sarah Palin’s.
But she’s scary and he’s not. That’s from the Gospel according to 0bot.
lol @ The Gospel according to Obot.
You guys and gals are on a roll today.
sounds like Gov. Kaine’s position on abortion is similar to Sarah Palin’s.
But she’s scary and he’s not. That’s from the Gospel according to 0bot.
……………………….
Sarah Palin had lady parts, Obama camp ran the most disgraceful misogynistic campaign ever. Even I as a Democrat was offended by the attacks on Palin and her children.
This campaign has set back women’s rights years if not decades.
Gee Sarah Palin said the same thing. She was vilified for it and called a liar.
So how do we know Kaine is telling the truth?
Skanky:
That’s funny, the Democratic Party!!
Stop the love or the hate:-)
roflmao
I couldn’t possibly add to this great post. Thank you.
…looks to me that Kaine thought this “DNC” position was beneath him… but finally realized he wasn’t going to get anything else.
So, who’s next form Commerce Secretary? Me thinks O should do some shuffling and place Daschle in that spot and leave Health Secretary to someone with experience, not Lobbying, for that spot.
But didn’t Daschle write a book?
Thanks so much for your reprint of your post from July. After Hillary threw in the towel and supported Obama I have been told by several “brainwashed” Obama supporters that Roe vs. Wade would be repealed and I would be personally responsible for it if I voted for McCain.
It didn’t help to point out that Geo. W. was a two term republican, born-again, pro-life president and Roe vs. Wade hasn’t suffered yet.
Now, I fear women’s rights may be set back a number of years because many foolish people and a corrupt MSM have put into office a president who is not only naive and in-experienced but in his rise to power, he has surrounded himself with fanatics and sleazy “politicos”.
Um… you do understand that Roe isn’t a law that can be “repealed”, right? It’s a Supreme Court decision that can only be overturned by the Court. And it’s holding on right now by a 1-vote majority, so if McCain had been elected and been able to replace any of Souter/Thomas/Ginsburg (all of whom are likely on their way out) with a conservative, Roe would likely have fallen. Right?
And before you say Obama will appoint a conservative justice, take a look at the people he just nominated to DoJ posts today. For example: Dawn Johnsen (former counsel to NARAL) to head the OLC. My God, think of the consequences to women’s rights! (/snark)
ahs…yeah, ever heard the name Sandra Day O’Connor? What a joke. Roe isn’t falling any time soon. But it’s sure as HELL not the reason to violate the Constitution and “select” a Fraudulent, criminal, liar, thief, cheat and con man. Frankly most women I know are sick to DEATH of people with their scare tactics about Roe V. Wade being the gun to our heads to vote for freaks like the FRAUD.
Yeah, there’s a smart tactic. Let’s hope for another O’Connor surprising the hell out of everyone and voting with the liberals. Seems both safe and intelligent.
We know how Roberts, Scalia, Thomas and Alito would vote. We know there are plenty of conservative judges out there who would vote right along with them. Throwing O’Connor out as an example (an example of a happy aberration) proves exactly nothing.
Like I said…on the one hand we could have a REAL President…someone who loves this country, with a track record and a brain. Or, because alarmists like YOU use that Roe V. Wade CRAP, we could get a total America hating POS FRAUD in the WH. Sorry, anyone with a frigging BRAIN or some morality and love of country would take their chances with Roe V. Wade rather than destroy our country because some bitches are afraid they won’t be able to scrape their uteruses.
Hmm.
Probably my favorite part of reading comments on this site is the disjunct between the feminists who are angry about Clinton, and the right-wingers who just show up because the site’s a place to dump on Obama.
Part of my thrill of being here is the Obot freaks like you have to pigeon hole everyone whose opinions don’t match yours. Like, now I’m a “right-winger?” Hmmm…but I am pro-choice and pro-gay-marriage. So, how does that work, wingbat? Hmmmm…Maybe I love my country enough not to risk all of our well being by selecting a FRAUD with no morals, integrity, experience, honesty, love of America? If I have to make a choice, it might not be easy but I make the best one for my friends, family and country. It isn’t Fraudbama. Period. And you wingbats trying to distract everyone from the truth about the idiot by constantly rehashing this Roe V. Wade thing is a joke. With everything this country has to face only a small minded, selfish, petty little snit would make EVERYTHING about ABORTION. WTF is wrong with you?
And you left-wing nutbags come here to dump on everyone who isn’t worshipping at the feet of your polyethylene prevaricator of an idol like you do.
He’s your creation–you worship That One. The rest of us will just watch in amusement.
So, you’re cool with calling women “bitches” I guess, as long as it’s in a context critical of Barack Obama.
Makes… sense?
Yes asshat…I am WAY comfortable calling “women” bitches who ATTACK other women. The definition of “feminist” is NOT one that IMO should exclude women who don’t abort their special needs babies. That was the most REPUGNANT display of hate I have ever seen from a group of bitches who claim to have fought for women’s rights. So, only one group of women has rights? You’re a real genius honey. My disdain of those women is because we should ALL bond as WOMEN and elevate EACH OTHER and THAT, my friend, is what FEMINISM should be. Not some hideous messes of freaks who completely make it their mission in life to DESTROY a successful, talented, caring, professional mother, career woman and wife JUST BECAUSE she didn’t abort her baby. What planet DO you live on?
Name one person who said they didn’t like Palin “just because she didn’t abort her baby”.
Yup another troll is here. Hey Camden. There wasn’t just ONE person you asshat. It was all over Daily Kook and Salon…There were groups of women who attacked Palin for it. Where the hell do they drag you nuts up anyway? This has been discussed over and over again at NQ. They were women from NOW…the nuts that were on MSNBC screaming that it wasn’t her baby in the first place. Did you miss that too? Come on troll, you make my life too easy. Ask a harder question.
Camden-you are still as slack-jawed and mouth-breathing as ever. I bet your significant other hates your constant snoring. Speaking of snoring, why are you here boring us to tears with the ramblings of the voices in your head. Oh, because they told you to. I see.
Camden was at a rave where he/she missed a hand off … it least it certainly is a distinct possibility. Ignorance is a choice. A mind is terrific thing to underdevelop, no?
I never use that word, cretin. So much for the veracity of your post. Why don’t you go drag down the collective IQ of another website, like HuffPo? If you need directions, just google dumpster and extreme left.
Ferd … how do you lower the collective IQ there? It scrapes knuckles as it is …
Well, it could go into negative territory, which would create an intellectual vacuum, sucking all the bots into another dimension… !
By all means, they should go there.
I resent the implication that Obama is on the “left” in any way.
It’s clear from his Senate voting record that he definitely isn’t on the “left” when it comes to economics issues. He was more GOP than Bernie Sanders so how in all f*ck he got most “liberal” Senator is beyond me.
His silence with regards to Gaza clearly shows he’s not on the “left.”
I can go on.
Obama is an opportunist through-and-through. To one side he’s their man, to the other he’s their man. He straddles both sides of the fence and probably laughs at the dupes he’s fooled.
His actions since being elected are an almost airtight prima facia case. Right-winger appointments, obsession with silly “tax cuts”, his support for the bailout, etc.
As for this whole issue of Roe v. Wade, that’s not going ANYWHERE. The GOP isn’t stupid enough to undermine their own game they have going. Without abortion, they really don’t have much control over the Jesusfreak vote. If abortion goes, they lose a huge motivator.
Roe is safe for at least my lifetime assuming things don’t get crazy.
It is safe forever as it was never in danger in the first place and was only used by blowhards on either extreme to keep the herd from milling to the other side.
It is safe until it is whipped out like some wedge issue to separate women from seeing the reproductive issue from the larger issue of women’s overall health rights ….
Perhaps so, but if the electorate would behave more like a collection of humans rather than a herd of cattle, that would not be an issue. Wedge issues are opiates for the masses and a gravy train for politicians.
Wedge issues are opiates for the masses and a gravy train for politicians.
And catchy phrases the media can beat out over and over and over at $XX Million per minute.
That’s for sure.
ahs, you are so full of yourself. actually you remind me of a great big bag of stale potato chips. you think you snap, crackle and pop, and all you are is stale and boring.
Or perhaps you could recognize and struggle past your narcissistic suppositions, and understand.
But that won’t happen.
Do you really think Jon Fearbou is a good writer?
In the real world, outside the mind of some half wit grad of the U of Chicago law school say, a guy like Larry would actually have a better chance at a job with Obama, than say, Kos, for the long run, Larry’s skills being more germane to the successful function of an Obama administration.
His essays on the recent Israeli war provide the fresh insights and truth needed to keep the US a world power.
You, OTOH, are projecting on those you criticize, why would anyone intelligent give your writing a second thought?
They don’t.
BTW, some very nice people post here, are you in the habit of only listening to or acknowledging those you consider to be in agreement with you, or worse, those of your perceived social and economic class?
ROTFLMAO
“How to always be marginal,” ladies and gentlemen.
Hey deadhead … this is NOT AN OPEN thread. Stay on topic or BEAT IT.
Thanks for the snap analysis of my personality. I’ll write it down.
Anyway, I take it you, too, have zero problem whatsoever with calling women “bitches”, and see nothing incongruous in such a comment going uncriticized in a post about women’s rights. Swell.
If you are female…and the shoe fits…LOL…Oh well….
get over yourself. Feminists aren’t just mad about Hillary. Why don’t you just go lap it up some more because obviously you don’t understand anything about the position of antiObama feminists. ~snark~
Come on, on a site that gives so much lip service to being anti-misogyny, no one is going to call out OIAF for the comment above?
hey skinny, come on tell is what YOU stand for besides being a bot. listening????? and tell us how you think it will be achieved. you have to stay in the arena of reality no fantasy predictions are crap like that.
So you think it’s okay to say
? Instead of insulting me, why can’t you just answer the question? It’s not a tricky one. I don’t call women bitches. I just don’t. I respect women; people on this site respect women who agree with them. Any other women can be insulted, degraded, called bitches, etc.
Yes I absolutely feel comfortable with calling those women in particular what they ARE. Or did you miss the vicious attacks on Palin for NO REASON other than she gave birth to a special needs child? Did you MISS (I bet you were part of) the lies about her not giving birth to that child in the first place? Hmmm…and ALL of it from so called “feminists.” I was ASHAMED to have a vagina reading that trash. And I still am. And your troll butt can defend that crap all you want and it is what it is…wingbat bitches who trashed the best politician in the bunch this year IMO. But, regardless of what ANYONE thinks of Palin’s politics, etc. there is NO reason for a woman to hide behind the word “feminist” when she is nothing but a lying, destructive, hateful, JEALOUS bitch. Do you get it yet?
Yes I concur only because it distinguishes these women from other women and accurately describes their actions against Palin. Kind of reminds me of the saying in my AA community ala Chris Rock; There are black folks and then there are ni–ers.
Well, the arguement is somewhat more complex than what your frame.
It’s blackmail, isnt it?
See?
You don’t address, and I would guess you dont even really understand, the greater issues.
Strike that “what,” thank you.
now, now OIAF, your temper (like mine) is rising
abortion is a legit issue but some women just aren’t as nuanced about it. they just wanted some man (Obama) to make sure that their choice isn’t taken away from them at the national level. But as far as getting them to do anything beyond that, protest, write LTEs, etc. on the local level, that is a lost cause. They are under the delusion that all they have to do is keep Roe from being overturned and all their rights are ensured. That is the difference between the feminists of old, and the new ones. The ones who had to fight for it, know how much is easily lost and see where it is really happening at the local level. I would just accuse them (the younger Obot feminists) of simple laziness.
Well Fembots…I go from retching to outrage by the moment. Ughhh…The problem is…I’m pro-choice. Doesn’t mean I voted for Fraudbama. Women should stop letting that be the only reason they vote for someone. By the way, maybe they can get their heads out of their azzes and realize that voting for a man who hates women really didn’t help the matter much now did it? Did they FORGET that he flipped Hillary the finger, brushed her off his shoulder, and that he is one of the most filthy misogynists around? Do, if someone can tell me the logic of voting for the idiot in the first place…Women are, IMO, their own worst enemies and will continue to be unless and until NOW and all of them are revamped, modernized, and don’t rely on the same old same old which hasn’t gotten us far enough yet, as we saw in 2008. So, yeah, I’m pissed. Women fought for their vote yet they WASTED it on FRAUD.
Good thing all those dumbazz chicks voted for Fraudbama…Whew. At least they didn’t vote for the misogynist who flipped Hillary off, brushed off his shoulder, called Palin a pig, etc. I’m sooo glad women before us fought for our right to vote and lots of women were really SMART with that vote and voted for FRAUDBAMA. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH.
Fuck Roe v Wade! As a woman, I refuse to be reduced to one issue. We fought for a woman’s right to chose back in the day, and have received very little support from the younger generations on this and other issues on gender equality. Frankly, after this election fighting misogyny, sexism, and pay equity are of greater urgency for me.
So if those one-issue youngin’s — especially, those who voted for BO — want to preserve R v W, then let them fight for it with the likes Tim Kaine. LOL!
Fight? The young “ladies” (cough, cough) who voted for BO are too busy waiting in line at rainbow parties or taking it in the ass(hat
so technically they can still claim to be virgins.
why is it that some people think receiving two abortions for the price of one from the government actually mean, that a person cares about your right to choose or you as a woman. Let’s take China for example. having an abortion is really not your choice. You are pressured into it if you have had a previous child, then to top it off they still prefer to have boys over girls. Supporting abortion has nothing to do with whether or not Obama and friends respect your rights or you for that matter. But when you have large state programs supporting large numbers of people. You may find that your right to choose is really just the states right to force you to have an abortion or sterilization because it doesn’t want to pay for any new crumb snatchers you might decide to have. What you need to do is start listening to everything a person says not just what you want to hear. And that is what people in this country have been doing for the past two decades, one day americans are going to elect someone that royally screws you because you don’t know how to think for yourselves. YOu think Party, race, or a few catch phrases tell you something about a person. Keep it up and you are going to get screwed, if you aren’t about to already.
well, given that the latest abortion ban attempt out here in SD failed again, it seems that the SCOTUS would be unlikely to try overturning Roe v. wade, knowing that their ruling would have next to no impact, since no state is going to outlaw abortion anyway.
seems like a bit of scare tactic to beat women voters into submission over.
Thanks, Rev. Amy…and good wishes for Jordan’s continued recovery.
So, let me get this right: Tim Kaine has about the same view on abortion that Gov. Sarah Palin does, but SHE is a backward, bible-banging hick?? (according to “liberals”, that is. And you know they know what’s BEST for all of us)
Them men folk … we gotta rely on them fer knowin’ more than us little weak wimmen … right? Yeah. Right ….
I’m telling you, watch the trend. Obie is playing footsie across the isle trying to make a new coalition between the Republican Religious Right and the Democratic Party’s AA base. Divide and conquer. Money is the emperor.
Great post, RRRA. Your early take on The One is being proven right. And the Roe v Wade tactic takes hypocrisy to new heights. Will Obie be any different nominating justices – especially if it suits him politically as framed above?
“Obie is playing footsie across the isle trying to make a new coalition between the Republican Religious Right and the Democratic Party’s AA base. Divide and conquer. Money is the emperor.”
I think you’re on to something there!
Hey, I told you so! People believe all the hype from the phony one….Barry Soetoro looks pretty desperate driving around DC, like he is the Prezzzzz..Looks like a total moron. We only have one presient at a time. Jerk!
president!
2 things my ex boyfriend threw at me for not supporting the one, Roe V. Wade and gay marriage. Yep. We threw away 3 years for that because he determined I didn’t care about those things and it was unconscionable, even though I insisted I did care about those things, but Obama was the one you could not trust with those issues. I wonder what Obama’s new boyfriend thinks now? I still don’t know what he thought of Warren either. I guess I won’t. Oh, well.
I hope Obama is everything his voters deserve and then some!
Wow. How sad for him. At least you learned a major flaw he has now.
He obviously wasn’t paying attention. AND, he obviously has many more issues if he questioned your word and support of these issues.
He deserved the REAL Obama.
Yes, he did,
Obama can have him!
Thanks, Cindy – and I can tell you (to be O/T) that Jordan is better today. We thought we were going to have to take him to the clinic for fluids, but he did what he needed to do, thank heavens…
Obamastoleyourboyfriend, are you saying your ex was OPPOSED to gay marriage? I’m just asking since Obama and Biden are opposed to it.
Roe v. Wade is not going anywhere. It is just the stick that has been used to keep us in line for years and years and years, and was a smokescreen so we wouldn’t see them for who they are – sexists.
I’m enjoying the conversation, folks! Thanks for coming by!
You’re better off without the idiot. Cripes, 0 is AGAINST gay marriage. Always has been. Always will be.
Nobody is really trying to overturn Roe vs. Wade. Its just a very devisive issue that they use to get people to the polls to vote, same thing with the gay marriage. Here in California, the proposition for marriage would have probably passed had it not been for the first grade class going on a field trip to their gay teachers wedding. Once that hit the news cycle, it was pretty much a done deal.
You are spot on. This is just a wedge-issue used by slack-jawed mouth-breathers on the left and right fringes as a means of whipping up their respective bases into a slobbering froth.
Comment by skinny malinky | 2009-01-05 13:20:00
Kaine has said that he personally opposes abortion, but doesn’t support overturning Roe v Wade. That’s saying that he supports choice. He doesn’t want to change the law to meet his personal beliefs. Is it mandatory for everyone in the Democratic Party to completely agree with you on every issue?
—————————————————–During the GE Gov Palin said the same thing, but was slammed for it. Explain why its ok for a Democrat to say that but not a republican. I am a registered Democrat, I am just sick of the democratic double standards this election.
In the Couric interview, Palin said it should be the states’ decision, not a federally mandate. That means she wants to overturn Roe v Wade. That means she has a much different view then Kaine.
Oh I guess that’s why a woman can’t get an abortion anywhere in the state of Alaska.
what are you talking about? that’s not true.
No of course it’s not true. PR is being facetious.
Sorry, I see that now. Too quick on the trigger finger. My apologies Penn Red.
No problem, I’m just enjoying the mental gyrations and intellectual self-deception that the 0b0ts have to perform in order to rationalize the actions of the 0-Panderer.
Women can get a legal abortion in Alaska as a result of Roe v Wade
So why did you make the point that Palin wants Roe v. Wade to remain the states’ individual legislation? If Palin were that anti-abortion there would be none of those procedures in the state she governs.
Tim Kaine is an observant Catholic. Have you checked into the Pope’s position on abortion?
You apparently don’t understand that Roe v Wade doesn’t allow a state to ban abortion. Palin wants states to be able to decide on their own if it should be allowed; right now they can’t, because the Supreme Court won’t let them. Got it, or do I need to dumb it down further for you?
skinny, you don’t get it either!
Roe says that an abortion cannot be banned during the first trimester. The second and third, states have more rights to impose legislative restrictions. This is how states are able to have parental consent laws and wait a day laws, etc.
And this is ultimately how abortion has been limited by the states.
No one will get rid of Roe because it is too big of a fundraiser for Republicans. They didn’t do it during W’s 8 years when they could have.
I’ll use small words:
In Roe , the Supreme Court said no state law against abortion counts. Palin wants to make it so women can’t get abortions. So she wants Alaska to make a law against abortions. But that law won’t count unless Roe goes away. So Palin wants Roe to go away.
That’s what she means when she says it should be “left up to the states.” And that’s why Roe matters so much.
Tim Kaine thinks something else. He thinks there should be fewer abortions, but he doesn’t think Roe should go away. The difference is important.
Look, feces-for-grey-matter, Roe v Wade will never be overturned in spite of your protestations to the contrary. You and your brethren on the left are just as ignorant as your cousins on the far right.
Stay on topic, troll.
You don’t have any idea what you’re talking about, sorry. Scalia and co. would hold that whatever right to privacy exists under the 14th doesn’t extend to cover abortion procedures tomorrow, if they had a) a good test case and b) one more vote. It’s far from “settled” in their minds, and what it is in your mind doesn’t make any difference.
Christ, Thomas filed a concurrence to Gonzalez explicitly calling for Roe to be overturned. That just doesn’t happen with settled law. Stop pretending you know about this stuff.
You don’t know what you are talking about. Scalia and Thomas are only two of nine and are as far right and kooky as you are far left and kooky. The mainstream justices will never overturn Roe v Wade–period.
This is a non-issue, troll. You can slice that bs you call your opinion as thin as you like it–hell, until it is transparent–but it is still bs, zerobot.
You’re pretty unfamiliar with Alito’s work, I take it — it’s a cliche, but “Scalito” really is appropriate for him. Roberts I’ll concede I’m not totally sure would go in lockstep with Scalia on Roe — he’s played it pretty close to the vest his whole career. But what he has written on it has been uniformly critical.
So there’s a definite three, and plausible four. Souter, Ginsburg and Stevens are outgoing. If only one of them were replaced with someone willing to vote to reverse Roe, we’re up to definite four, plausible five. If two anti-Roe judges got on, game over.
If you think that’s impossible, I repeat: you just don’t know what you’re talking about.
BS.
Yes, folks, it’s time for another edition of Name That Troll.
Tonight’s guest is ahs. By what name did this troll originally go by?
Was it:
1. Kelvin Hearts PUMAs,
2. ee,
3. Francis (the Talking Mule Troll),
4. (Little) Debbie,
5. Se,
6. Detractor, or
6. UBM.
Only one guess per NQ guest, please.
BS.
Yes, folks, it’s time for another edition of Name That Troll.
Tonight’s guest is ahs. By what name did this troll originally go by?
Was it:
1. Kelvin Hearts PUMAs,
2. ee,
3. Francis (the Talking Mule Troll),
4. (Little) Debbie,
5. Se,
6. Detractor, or
6. UBM.
Yeah, right.
Yes, folks, it’s time for another edition of Name That Bot.
Tonight’s guest is ahs. Under what name did this bot originally post?
Was it:
1. Kelvin Hearts PUMAs,
2. ee,
3. Francis,
4. (Little) Debbie,
5. Se,
6. Detractor, or
7. UBM.
Only one response per NQ guest, please.
Stare decisis–look it up, shut up, and go away.
The more we debate the finer points of R v W, the more the trolls are able to divert us from discussing Obama and the kind of agenda and politics he is crafting by surrounding himself with the likes of Kaine and Warren.
Basically, Obama is showing himself to be (as I have believed all along) of the Rightward bent. He is no Leftie. The fascist Right continues with its stranglehold on this country and you Obots are too blinded by your Messiah to even notice. You’ve been punked in the worst way!
Well said, trixta. It’s a good discussion, but belongs elsewhere.
Neither of them was able to reference the Pope’s position on abortion, which would be of some interest to a governor who also happens to be an observant Catholic.
And they both totally missed the point of my replies to them, that Palin’s position as a PRACTICAL matter doesn’t differ from Kaine’s. (As far as we know:
Kaine observes the tenets of a faith whose anti-abortion stance is a matter of doctrine and has been the subject of more than one treatise authored by a contemporary Pope.)
Can either skinny malinsky or the other one say with absolute certainty what Kaine’s Catholic conscience will lead him to do – in the way of policy? They seem to be pretty darn sure about what lurks in Palin’s heart and mind.
The intellectual dishonesty metastasizes with every one of their posts…
Palin’s position and Kaine’s differ enormously as a practical matter. I’m not sure what you aren’t understanding.
Palin wants Roe reversed so that states can freely pass laws against abortion. Kaine does not want Roe reversed.
Kaine (and this is not a stance I agree with personally, FWIW; I’m just spelling out Kaine’s position) wants to do what he can to decrease the number of abortions, within the legal confines laid down by Roe and its progeny. Palin wants to bring that number down to zero by making abortion illegal altogether, which can only happen if Roe is reversed. That’s a HUGE practical difference.
I can’t pretend to get inside Kaine’s mind re: the pope any more than I can pretend to get inside Palin’s re: her beliefs. All I have for either of them is their public statements, and those statements paint totally different pictures.
Again, So what? All you have are statements, which do not equate to action, especially where it concerns the object of your undying adoration, That One. You are a gullible fool who fiddles around discussing meaningless hogwash and diverting attention with wedge issues while our economy is a wreck. Thanks for giving us the “pro-choice” (NOT) Oblockhead, Panderer to All but Helper of None.
When the proverbial feces hits the fan because of YOUR selection for POTUS, kindly place your face in its path so we don’t become a victim by proxy.
When the proverbial feces hits the fan because of YOUR selection for POTUS, kindly place your face in its path so we don’t become a victim by proxy.
ROFL…Ferd, you’re my hero…
OBIAF: I’m just getting warmed up. I have had it with microcephallic morons forcing incompetent boobs on this country. Eight years of boneheaded policy wasn’t enough for these Kool-aide addled fools. No, they had to turn that bad same penny over and give us another bonehead to run our country further into the ground. I long for the days when all we had to worry about was what sexual shenanigans were going on in the West Wing. Big Dawg may have been a philanderer, but he was an extremely competent President. HRC would have been an even better president. If I could have but one wish….
Oh Ferd, you crack me up. And HRC might still be POTUS. One way or another Fraudbama won’t cut it for four years.
Ferd … we all bow in awe of the point on your pen!
Obonehead . . . . Omicrocephallic — two more AKAs to add to His list.
Hey Asshat…”I’ll use small words…” LOL LOL LOL…So are you the resident pompous pseudo-intellectual now? Hahahhahahahah…Come on big talker…throw some “big words” at us.
So what? Roe v Wade is settled. You need a new shtick, Skinky.
McCain said Roe v Wade should be overturned. He said he would appoint judges who would overturn it. It wouldn’t be settled if he had been elected.
Again, Spanky, so what? He could have also said the moon might be made of green cheese–and you would be gullible enough to believe it. Roe v Wade will never be overturned in spite of what left-wing and right-wing nutjobs say. Which part of wedge issue do you fail to understand?
But you keep harping on this like the good little obamazerotron so you can ignore the real issues, many of which are centered on the complete unfitness of your master to hold the office of POTUS.
Skanky Malignantsky –
It’s all pseudo intellectual babble from you. YOU have no idea that Palin would have overturned Roe VS Wade or would support the idea.
Conjecture at best and just plain Obot babble on the outside. Get lost.
Palin couldn’t have turned it over anyway. That would either require a SCOTUS ruling overturning settled law and going against precedent or a Constitutional Amendment, neither of which she would have any responsibility for. The bots are not only stupid but intellectually lazy and ignorant of how our system works. Like That One,bots are not Constitutional Scholars. LMAO
Ferd, NO constitutional matter is settled. It is always subject to future rulings. However, the idea that an opinion could be so easily overturned is not based upon reality either.
What we should be more concerned about is the state’s ability to limit birth control, because THAT is where the real assault is right now.
Now I think we are all finished with the Obots diverting the topic away!
Fembots: While I agree with your general sentiments, settled law–which Roe is–rarely is overturned. Our legal system relies on consistency.
With repsect to birth control–it should be readily available and, as far as I’m concerned, free to those who wish to use it. That is one way to definitely limit the number of abortions being performed. But making pragmatic decisions when confronted with difficult questions has never been a characteristic of Americans, unfortunately.
Comment by skinny malinky | 2009-01-05 14:20:30
In the Couric interview, Palin said it should be the states’ decision, not a federally mandate. That means she wants to overturn Roe v Wade. That means she has a much different view then Kaine.
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Palin as Gov of Alaska didn’t enforce her own beliefs on the state, so get the over the double standards. Damn the Dems are more corrupt than the republicans.
yeah, scabby Malarky and company always conveniently “forgets” that Palin is a sitting Governor….with a record….and an 80% approval rating!
AND a thriving economy.
Palin couldn’t impose her beliefs on abortion because of Roe v Wade. Again, she said she wants it to be a state issue. I’m guessing if it was a state issue, she would want to take the right away in Alaska.
Skanky…you have lost your mind. Totally.
OIAF, all you have is insults. Please, tell me what in the statement
is incorrect?
The REASON you people make me vomit is this…You are here as a TROLL to try to distract people from the TRUTH about Fraudbama and rehash Roe V. Wade as a scare tactic. The bottom line is that I am pro-choice and pro-gay-marriage, so you wingbats calling me a rightwinger is a little pathetic and sad for you. But I would NEVER sell out my country in a time of serious trouble because of some self righteous nuts trying to cause panic over something that will NEVER, EVER HAPPEN. You people throw it out there to the point that you seem like part of the Manson Family chanting on and on about cult crap. In the meantime, we have financial issues, terror threats around the world, we’re at war, etc. and all you FREAKS can pop off about it some BS that isn’t going to happen? IT – MAKES – ME – VOMIT. Do you really hate America this much?
In other words, nothing about my statement is incorrect? Glad we agree, then.
Your statement is bereft of meaning. You make mountains out of molehills while ignoring that your house of cards is about to cave in.
In other words SKANKY…I have answered your sad troll azz fifty times…but Ferd just did it very eloquently. Nothing you can say about Roe V. Wade 1) Do I believe. 2) Will I ever think was worth “selecting” Fraudbama. See, it was a CHOICE…”Select” a fraudulent azzhole, or Roe V. Wade will be overturned. LIKE I SAID…you are WRONG IMO that it will EVER HAPPEN and I don’t give a DAMN because FRAUDBAMA is going to trash my country.
LOL
oops the LOL was to OIAF for the MAKE ME VOMIT comment….loved it!
Damn the Dems are more corrupt than the republicans.
You got that right Cathy6224…and that’s why I registered Republican six months ago and will NEVER go back. I’ve never seen anything like the Dems nonsense in this “Selection.”
I also re-registered as a Republican, after over 30 years of voting Democrat. I am torn between laughing my ass off at all the disappointed, and soon to be disappointed, Obama voters, and crying because, just like Bush, Obama will be a disaster for our poor country. The truly amazing thing: eight months after changing party affiliation, I continue to receive telephonic pleas for MONEY for the Democratic Party. I thought they were wallowing in it?! I no longer receive letters requesting money though, not since I used a red marker to write PUMA all over the last message I was sent. Perhaps I need to get a whistle for the phone callers? Hmm.
Interesting discussion going on about the utter and unabashed hypocrisy of the left in going after Sarah for saying and believing essentially the same thing re abortion as Kaine. I’m still thinking McCain would have been more of a moderate than Obama will turn out to be.
ding ding ding
Because, ironically, the 0-guy is going after the very same voters who abandoned Johnny Mac: the religious conservatives!
Well I guess someone will have to replace the disaffected proglodytes.
The Repubs are just as bad — they gave us GWB!
Comment by OBAMA IS A FRAUD | 2009-01-05 14:24:35
Damn the Dems are more corrupt than the republicans.
You got that right Cathy6224…and that’s why I registered Republican six months ago and will NEVER go back. I’ve never seen anything like the Dems nonsense in this “Selection.”
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I changed to independent but will never trust Democrats again.
Speaking of TRUST….look what Pelosi is trying to do:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30143
Anything is better than Howard Dean.
Not true.
Think Joe Lieberman or Zel Miller.
At least Zel Miller was entertaining as hell. JK
Gee. All of the wonderful possibilities and instead we are left to say, at least it’s not Zel … So much like shrub.
Ain’t that the truth. But that is what happens when the electorate’s choices are removed by bloated plutocrats making decisions in smoke-filled backrooms.
I am a happy brand new registered Republican now! It feels very good. Shame on the Democrats!
Good for YOU NYC. Me too! I love it.
Do not waste your time with the Obamabites!
Yes, folks, it’s time for another edition of Name That Bot.
Tonight’s guest is ahs. Under what name did this bot originally post?
Was it:
1. Kelvin Hearts PUMAs,
2. ee,
3. Francis,
4. (Little) Debbie,
5. Se, or
6. Detractor.
Only one response per NQ guest, please.
I’m going to go with Kelvin. This seems like him/her.
I can’t wait for his first supreme court nomination…bwahahaha!
Where are the women’s rights organizations? Will they say anything or have they been paid off too????
So if the Dems. are moving to a solid South, conservative, anti-choice, etc. philosophy, it’s time to strategically start electing “Rockefeller Republicans” – those moderate-to-liberal types from early in the last century and before — Abraham Lincoln and abolitionists, Teddy Roosevelt and environment, etc. It was actually New England Republicans who were many of the early champions of women’s suffrage and family planning programs (Dem. Pres. W. Wilson opposed the suffragettes — also from VA like Tim Kaine), while it was Nixon who brought us federal support for comprehensive family planning programs (and Yes, he was awful on Vietnam and I couldn’t stand him).
So we can take our money and our votes and take over the Republican caucuses in our precincts!!
The women’s rights orgs, NOW, PP, NARAL, Emily’s list – all of them sold out to O. PUMA.org still works its ___ off for women…A few more, but the old biggies are dead.
BTW, I think it’s important to remember that the Repubs and the other usual suspects continue to savage Sarah Palin, in order to keep her from running again, both as Gov and poss POTUS candidate.
Keep an eye on the criticism of her; you’ll note it’s almost all smear.
They had voluntary spinectomies during the primaries.
Suddenly Roe v Wade doesn’t matter? Proof Roe v Wade is just a political football used by Democrats and Republicans.
The reason I supported Clinton was the way Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton interacted with each other.
I said in another thread there are three levels of oppression, institutional, cultural and personal. Roe v Wade and gay marriage represent institutional solutions to oppression whereas PUMAS argued against cultural and personal sexism and homophobia which are more pervasive and dangerous. In other words, even though racism was outlawed in the United States, cultural and personal forms of racism are more dangerous and difficult to uproot. Even if Roe v Wade and gay marriage laws were secured, there would still be the problems of sexism and homophobia in our culture and between individuals.
The best way to combat cultural and personal sexism and homophobia is positive modeling by political and cultural leaders. This is why I liked the Clintons. The respectful manner in which Bill Clinton interacted with Hillary Clinton changed the way men and women interacted with one another.
Obama’s installation of Warren as national pastor and Kaine as Party Chairman finished a trifecta of culturally and personally sexist and homophobic leaders and politicians and ushers in a time when it’s okay to openly discriminate against women and GLBT.