[Classic NQ] MEMO to Voters in States Producing and Relying On Coal: Obama Intends to Bankrupt Your Businesses and Your Industries
By Truthteller on January 9, 2009 at 10:15 AM in Current Affairs
From November, 2008, Truthteller warned people in coal producing states that their economy could take a hit from Obama’s energy position. Original post.
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Wyoming, West Virginia, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Texas, Montana, Illinois, Virginia, North Dakota, Colorado, Indiana, New Mexico, Utah, Ohio, Alabama and Arizona: these coal producing states will be adversely affected by Barack Obama’s energy policy.
Imagine mines closing, factories closing, jobs lost, towns abandoned, small businesses failing, pensions lost, wages dropping and widespread economic depression in states that rely on coal mining and processing. This is what Obama’s cap and trade system will engender in states such as WV, PA, MT, VA, ND, CO, IN, NM, OH and AZ. Just listen to this audio of Obama discussing how he will bankrupt factories and businesses that rely on power generated from coal when he was interviewed by the San Francisco Chronicle in January 2008:
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Here is the transcript:
Let me sort of describe my overall policy.
What I’ve said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else’s out there.
I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.
That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.
The only thing I’ve said with respect to coal, I haven’t been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
It’s just that it will bankrupt them.“
Does Obama realize the number of jobs lost when he arrogantly states that plants will be bankrupted under his energy policy? Does he not understand the number of lives affected?
The Ohio River Basin is one area of the country that will be decimated as a result of Obama’s desire to bankrupt plants relying on coal.
And while the economy of the Ohio River Valley is decimated, the following regions of the country will witness no job growth, as the following proposed plants will never be built:
Permits for these proposed plants have already been cancelled:
The West will also be adversely affected by Obama’s reckless energy policy:
Bankrupting an entire industry will destroy the lives of Americans across the country. Both coal produces and consumers will have to fire employees, and this will create widespread job loss and increased economic recession.
More discussion on Obama’s desire to bankrupt coal producers and consumers is available at Memeorandum.
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Are these those bitter clinging people? If they are then they deserve what they get. Why should they have jobs and be able to eat or feed their families?
Obama said bankrupt them so bankrupt them.
Geez.
(snark for the snark impaired)
More jobs lost and replced with???? Zero from the zero.
Good job American voters living in oblivian for the gift that keeps on taking-Barack Hussein Obama.
Why is there never any good news about this guy?
Yet people had hope.
Good question, Mr. X. Why is that? Maybe because this whole thing has been bad news from the start, just wrapped in a pretty package.
a turd with a bow on it is still a turd. Why couldn’t people see that.
Getting ass-raped sideways by a good-looking man doesn’t make it hurt any less.
I remember a YouTube that featured DrinkyWinky (our next vice president) talking face to face with a voter about coal power. The voter was a petite woman, and DrinkyWinky was grasping her shoulder as if he was going to keel over at any minute.
About coal powered plants: “That schtuff will kill ya (hic)” shouted DrinkyWinky as he spoke six inches from the woman’s face.
He looked drunk as Chloe in that video.
To all the Idiots that voted for Obama……I “hope” you have “change” left at the end of every month.
That’s exactly right.
So far everything is going on schedule and ahead of schedule on Obama’s quest and the Democratic Party intention to destroy our country from within.
Lets have the marching bands play their fanfare.
It would be more ironic if they are left with no change in their wallets.
I kept telling them I was voting hero over zero, now they will experience the zero. Congrats, bots, but I spit on you for taking the rest of us with you!
Truthteller, what’s weird is I saw an ad on a Pro Obama site not two weeks ago supporting Clean Coal Technology…something like “Let’s make this happen” or “we can make this happen”…So what you’re saying is that ad was just another ruse to confuse the masses? Wow, and I thought the Bush administration knew how to spin.
The Big 0 (as in zero) is going to pay off all those markers he wrote out during the campaign to companies like Excelon, who hired Tom Daschle to be an unregistered lobbyist for them. Excelon was a major contributor to the Big 0’s campaign.
You think unemployment is high now? Just wait until the Big 0 has thrown thousands of coal workers, and coal related workers out of a job. Just wait until the oil industry is shut down and thousands of jobs are lost there.
But could someone please explain to me how you count the number of “saved” jobs as being part of your plan? How do you know how many jobs were “saved”? Would you not have to know how many jobs were definately going to be “lost” before you can crunch the numbers?
This is new CYA speak.
News flash, Big 0; the oil industry is already moving off shore. They know you are not friendly to them so away they go. Unfortuately, coal miners cannot move to China.
Don’t forget the Ayers-Excelon-Obama connection… Billy Ayers’ father, Thomas was Chairman and CEO of Excelon.
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/obamas-exelon-ties-ayers-connection/8/
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/barack-and-rahm-heart-exelon/
oh I figure about the time people are eating rice from a broken bowl, riding their bicycle to work and freezing their tush off because of a brown out or blackout, will be about the time they wake up.
I agree.
Obama has shown a complete willingness to back track on everything he said in the primary. I don’t think this will be much of an issue.
Obama is undeniably who he is, if you bothered to scratch beneath the surface. Scratch a lie, find a thief. He’s been a crooked, soulless, sellout egomaniac since he took his first piece of candy from Frank Marshall Davis. He is fully indoctrinated to serve his masters, whoever they are. He owes about $650 million in favors going into his first term.
Why is it that people assume that Obama has America’s best interests at heart, that he wants America to succeed?
I don’t understand that either.
If Obama had had America’s best interests at heat, he would have withdrawn from the primary, supported Clinton and vied for VP so he could gain the experience to be the best President possible when/if his turn came!
IMO the fact he was in such a hurry told me that if we got to know him, he would not get elected!
Coal is plentiful.
It’s also the dirtiest planetary energy source going, and the single largest source of dangerous atmospheric pollutants and climate-changing CO2 emissions. Not to mention the environmental devastation left in the wake of it’s mining. Most Americans are completely unaware of the alarming extent of mountain top removal, of the destroyed forests, of the polluted lakes, streams, and rivers, and of the clean-up costs that are being left for somebody else to deal with once mined areas are depleted of their profitable resources.
Then there’s the “clean coal” public relations scam the industry has attempted to foist on the public. The truth of the matter is that there’s no such thing, and there’s no real prospect that there ever will be.
We’ve got the very real prospect of endless environmentally friendly alternative energy within our grasp. Development of the technology and necessary infrastructure would inject billions into our ailing economy, while creating millions of new jobs in the process. It will be an investment that will deal with our immediate economic problems, while simultaneously building something that will open the doors on a future of unlimited possibilities.
The coal industry ought not be given any incentives to continue their efforts to stand in the way of all of that. Nor am I very sympathetic toward efforts to score political points against Barack Obama at the expense of our nation’s long-term future.
Coal isn’t the future of America. It’s the future of China. The Chinese are already getting an unfortunate choking taste of what that sort of future will look and smell like. Give them 20 years. If we’ve switched over to wind and solar energy by then, they’re going to become our technology customers.
We’ll also see just how effectively hostile elements in the Middle East can threaten the West when the supply of petro-dollars dries up.
I’m struck by how the map seems to reflect the voting in the last election. Perhaps someone with more time than me can do an overlay showing how most of the states with no coal production voted for Obama. I guess they don’t care what happens to the others.
Saying he’ll make coal producting industries go bankrupt sounds oh so positive. HRC would have found a way to ease into other sources of power.
By “power” I mean natural sources of energy.
Coal may cause a lot of problems, but it has it’s benefits. Stopping it now would devestate our economy even further. Too many people depend on it. The USA is working hard to help clean the air, yet other countries just keep polluting it more, so how can we ever win. The pollution problem has to be a universal challenge.
Cynic covers all of the bases on why coal is NOT part of a sustainable energy policy. As for the rest of the NQ partisans it is the same old, same old. The same old over-the-top baseless accusations, the same old over-the-top hatred of Obama, the same old Hilary worship.
Hilary would not have been much better or worse than BHO on energy policy. There was next to no difference on this subject between the candidates. Both stressed Green Energy. Unfortunately both were much too conciliatory to the Ethanol lobby.
Hopefully BHO and the Democratic Congress can find a way to shift away from coal in way that makes new Green jobs in Coal producing states. In some places, like the state of West Virgina the writings been on the wall for some time, the coal based economy is going away and something else has got to found to replace it.
Coal is at best a Faustian bargain. For cheap power today we foul our own nest tomorrow. And the damage in some cases is both horrific and permanent. Just the damage done to the physical landscape is insult to god’s creation. Both Mountaintop removal and strip mining create vast vistas of permanent ugliness. And the ugliness is more than skin deep, the blasted landscape reflects a blasted ecosystem. Everything is poisoned both figuratively and literally.
Coal is a 19th century technology, it has no place in 21st century. Wind, Solar, Tidal and even Nuclear energy are the way forward. As usual for NQ posters “truthteller” very nome de plume is an oxymoron. What is on offer is propaganda; a non-stop screed against Obama and hagiography of Clinton. No serious examination of the benefits vs the cost of Coal are offered. What is on offer is just another tiered talking point of why it is o.k. to despise Barack Obama because he is the devil incarnate out to screw “real Americans.”