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	<title>Comments on: [Classic NQ] MEMO to Voters in States Producing and Relying On Coal: Obama Intends to Bankrupt Your Businesses and Your Industries</title>
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		<title>By: James (San Jose)</title>
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		<dc:creator>James (San Jose)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynic covers all of the bases on why coal is NOT part of a sustainable energy policy.  As for the rest of the NQ partisans it is the same old, same old. The same old over-the-top baseless accusations, the same old over-the-top hatred of Obama, the same old Hilary worship.

Hilary would not have been much better or worse than BHO on energy policy.  There was next to no difference on this subject between the candidates.   Both stressed Green Energy.  Unfortunately both were much too conciliatory to the Ethanol lobby.

Hopefully BHO and the Democratic Congress can find a way to shift away from coal in way that makes new Green jobs in Coal producing states. In some places, like the state of West Virgina the writings been on the wall for some time, the coal based economy is going away and something else has got to found to replace it.  

Coal is at best a Faustian bargain. For cheap power today we foul our own nest tomorrow. And the damage in some cases is both horrific and permanent. Just the damage done to the physical landscape is insult to god&#039;s creation. Both Mountaintop removal and strip mining create vast vistas of permanent ugliness.  And the ugliness is more than skin deep, the blasted landscape reflects a blasted ecosystem. Everything is poisoned both figuratively and literally.

Coal is a 19th century technology, it has no place in 21st century. Wind, Solar, Tidal and even Nuclear energy are the way forward.  As usual for NQ posters &quot;truthteller&quot; very nome de plume is an oxymoron. What is on offer is propaganda; a non-stop screed against Obama and hagiography of Clinton.  No serious examination of the benefits vs the cost of Coal are offered.  What is on offer is just another tiered talking point of why it is o.k. to despise Barack Obama because he is the devil incarnate out to screw &quot;real Americans.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynic covers all of the bases on why coal is NOT part of a sustainable energy policy.  As for the rest of the NQ partisans it is the same old, same old. The same old over-the-top baseless accusations, the same old over-the-top hatred of Obama, the same old Hilary worship.</p>
<p>Hilary would not have been much better or worse than BHO on energy policy.  There was next to no difference on this subject between the candidates.   Both stressed Green Energy.  Unfortunately both were much too conciliatory to the Ethanol lobby.</p>
<p>Hopefully BHO and the Democratic Congress can find a way to shift away from coal in way that makes new Green jobs in Coal producing states. In some places, like the state of West Virgina the writings been on the wall for some time, the coal based economy is going away and something else has got to found to replace it.  </p>
<p>Coal is at best a Faustian bargain. For cheap power today we foul our own nest tomorrow. And the damage in some cases is both horrific and permanent. Just the damage done to the physical landscape is insult to god&#8217;s creation. Both Mountaintop removal and strip mining create vast vistas of permanent ugliness.  And the ugliness is more than skin deep, the blasted landscape reflects a blasted ecosystem. Everything is poisoned both figuratively and literally.</p>
<p>Coal is a 19th century technology, it has no place in 21st century. Wind, Solar, Tidal and even Nuclear energy are the way forward.  As usual for NQ posters &#8220;truthteller&#8221; very nome de plume is an oxymoron. What is on offer is propaganda; a non-stop screed against Obama and hagiography of Clinton.  No serious examination of the benefits vs the cost of Coal are offered.  What is on offer is just another tiered talking point of why it is o.k. to despise Barack Obama because he is the devil incarnate out to screw &#8220;real Americans.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JOSIE</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/09/classic-nq-memo-to-voters-in-states-producing-and-relying-on-coal-obama-intends-to-bankrupt-your-businesses-and-your-industries/#comment-1111838</link>
		<dc:creator>JOSIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coal may cause a lot of problems, but it has it&#039;s benefits.  Stopping it now would devestate our economy even further. Too many people depend on it.  The USA is working hard to help clean the air, yet other countries just keep polluting it more, so how can we ever win.  The pollution problem has to be a universal challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coal may cause a lot of problems, but it has it&#8217;s benefits.  Stopping it now would devestate our economy even further. Too many people depend on it.  The USA is working hard to help clean the air, yet other countries just keep polluting it more, so how can we ever win.  The pollution problem has to be a universal challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Playwright</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/09/classic-nq-memo-to-voters-in-states-producing-and-relying-on-coal-obama-intends-to-bankrupt-your-businesses-and-your-industries/#comment-1111785</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Playwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By &quot;power&quot; I mean natural sources of energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By &#8220;power&#8221; I mean natural sources of energy.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Playwright</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/09/classic-nq-memo-to-voters-in-states-producing-and-relying-on-coal-obama-intends-to-bankrupt-your-businesses-and-your-industries/#comment-1111776</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Playwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saying he&#039;ll make coal producting industries go bankrupt sounds oh so positive.  HRC would have found a way to ease into other sources of power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying he&#8217;ll make coal producting industries go bankrupt sounds oh so positive.  HRC would have found a way to ease into other sources of power.</p>
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		<title>By: Welcome Back Carteh</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/09/classic-nq-memo-to-voters-in-states-producing-and-relying-on-coal-obama-intends-to-bankrupt-your-businesses-and-your-industries/#comment-1111248</link>
		<dc:creator>Welcome Back Carteh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is undeniably who he is, if you bothered to scratch beneath the surface. Scratch a lie, find a thief. He&#039;s been a crooked, soulless, sellout egomaniac since he took his first piece of candy from Frank Marshall Davis. He is fully indoctrinated to serve his masters, whoever they are. He owes about $650 million in favors going into his first term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is undeniably who he is, if you bothered to scratch beneath the surface. Scratch a lie, find a thief. He&#8217;s been a crooked, soulless, sellout egomaniac since he took his first piece of candy from Frank Marshall Davis. He is fully indoctrinated to serve his masters, whoever they are. He owes about $650 million in favors going into his first term.</p>
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		<title>By: Welcome Back Carteh</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/09/classic-nq-memo-to-voters-in-states-producing-and-relying-on-coal-obama-intends-to-bankrupt-your-businesses-and-your-industries/#comment-1111241</link>
		<dc:creator>Welcome Back Carteh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting ass-raped sideways by a good-looking man doesn&#039;t make it hurt any less.</description>
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		<title>By: Ellen D</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/09/classic-nq-memo-to-voters-in-states-producing-and-relying-on-coal-obama-intends-to-bankrupt-your-businesses-and-your-industries/#comment-1111196</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m struck by how the map seems to reflect the voting in the last election. Perhaps someone with more time than me can do an overlay showing how most of the states with no coal production voted for Obama. I guess they don&#039;t care what happens to the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m struck by how the map seems to reflect the voting in the last election. Perhaps someone with more time than me can do an overlay showing how most of the states with no coal production voted for Obama. I guess they don&#8217;t care what happens to the others.</p>
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		<title>By: obamastolemyboyfriend</title>
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		<dc:creator>obamastolemyboyfriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand that either.

If Obama had had America&#039;s best interests at heat, he would have withdrawn from the primary, supported Clinton and vied for VP so he could gain the experience to be the best President possible when/if his turn came!

IMO the fact he was in such a hurry told me that if we got to know him, he would not get elected!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand that either.</p>
<p>If Obama had had America&#8217;s best interests at heat, he would have withdrawn from the primary, supported Clinton and vied for VP so he could gain the experience to be the best President possible when/if his turn came!</p>
<p>IMO the fact he was in such a hurry told me that if we got to know him, he would not get elected!</p>
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		<title>By: cynic</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/09/classic-nq-memo-to-voters-in-states-producing-and-relying-on-coal-obama-intends-to-bankrupt-your-businesses-and-your-industries/#comment-1111161</link>
		<dc:creator>cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coal is plentiful.  

It&#039;s also the dirtiest planetary energy source going, and the single largest source of dangerous atmospheric pollutants and climate-changing CO2 emissions.  Not to mention the environmental devastation left in the wake of it&#039;s mining.  Most Americans are completely unaware of the alarming extent of mountain top removal, of the destroyed forests, of the polluted lakes, streams, and rivers, and of the clean-up costs that are being left for somebody else to deal with once mined areas are depleted of their profitable resources.  

Then there&#039;s the &quot;clean coal&quot; public relations scam the industry has attempted to foist on the public.  The truth of the matter is that there&#039;s &lt;em&gt;no such thing&lt;/em&gt;, and &lt;em&gt;there&#039;s no real prospect that there ever will be.&lt;/em&gt;  

We&#039;ve got the very real prospect of endless   environmentally friendly alternative energy within our grasp.  Development of the technology and necessary infrastructure would inject billions into our ailing economy, while creating millions of new jobs in the process.  It will be an investment that will deal with our immediate economic problems, while simultaneously building something that will open the doors on a future of unlimited possibilities.  

The coal industry ought not be given any incentives to continue their efforts to stand in the way of all of that.  Nor am I very sympathetic toward efforts to score political points against Barack Obama at the expense of our nation&#039;s long-term future.  

&lt;strong&gt;Coal isn&#039;t the future of America.  It&#039;s the future of China.&lt;/strong&gt;  The Chinese are already getting an unfortunate choking taste of what that sort of future will look and smell like.  Give them 20 years.  If we&#039;ve switched over to wind and solar energy by then, they&#039;re going to become our  technology customers.  

We&#039;ll also see just how effectively hostile elements in the Middle East can threaten the West when the supply of petro-dollars dries up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coal is plentiful.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also the dirtiest planetary energy source going, and the single largest source of dangerous atmospheric pollutants and climate-changing CO2 emissions.  Not to mention the environmental devastation left in the wake of it&#8217;s mining.  Most Americans are completely unaware of the alarming extent of mountain top removal, of the destroyed forests, of the polluted lakes, streams, and rivers, and of the clean-up costs that are being left for somebody else to deal with once mined areas are depleted of their profitable resources.  </p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the &#8220;clean coal&#8221; public relations scam the industry has attempted to foist on the public.  The truth of the matter is that there&#8217;s <em>no such thing</em>, and <em>there&#8217;s no real prospect that there ever will be.</em>  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve got the very real prospect of endless   environmentally friendly alternative energy within our grasp.  Development of the technology and necessary infrastructure would inject billions into our ailing economy, while creating millions of new jobs in the process.  It will be an investment that will deal with our immediate economic problems, while simultaneously building something that will open the doors on a future of unlimited possibilities.  </p>
<p>The coal industry ought not be given any incentives to continue their efforts to stand in the way of all of that.  Nor am I very sympathetic toward efforts to score political points against Barack Obama at the expense of our nation&#8217;s long-term future.  </p>
<p><strong>Coal isn&#8217;t the future of America.  It&#8217;s the future of China.</strong>  The Chinese are already getting an unfortunate choking taste of what that sort of future will look and smell like.  Give them 20 years.  If we&#8217;ve switched over to wind and solar energy by then, they&#8217;re going to become our  technology customers.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ll also see just how effectively hostile elements in the Middle East can threaten the West when the supply of petro-dollars dries up.</p>
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		<title>By: jvsp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jvsp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that people assume that Obama has America&#039;s best interests at heart, that he wants America to succeed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that people assume that Obama has America&#8217;s best interests at heart, that he wants America to succeed?</p>
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		<title>By: obamastolemyboyfriend</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/09/classic-nq-memo-to-voters-in-states-producing-and-relying-on-coal-obama-intends-to-bankrupt-your-businesses-and-your-industries/#comment-1111099</link>
		<dc:creator>obamastolemyboyfriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be more ironic if they are left with no change in their wallets.

I kept telling them I was voting hero over zero, now they will experience the zero.  Congrats, bots, but I spit on you for taking the rest of us with you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be more ironic if they are left with no change in their wallets.</p>
<p>I kept telling them I was voting hero over zero, now they will experience the zero.  Congrats, bots, but I spit on you for taking the rest of us with you!</p>
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		<title>By: Kentucky</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/09/classic-nq-memo-to-voters-in-states-producing-and-relying-on-coal-obama-intends-to-bankrupt-your-businesses-and-your-industries/#comment-1111014</link>
		<dc:creator>Kentucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama has shown a complete willingness to back track on everything he said in the primary. I don&#039;t think this will be much of an issue.</description>
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		<title>By: pt</title>
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		<dc:creator>pt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget the Ayers-Excelon-Obama connection... Billy Ayers&#039; father, Thomas was Chairman and CEO of Excelon.

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/obamas-exelon-ties-ayers-connection/8/


http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/barack-and-rahm-heart-exelon/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget the Ayers-Excelon-Obama connection&#8230; Billy Ayers&#8217; father, Thomas was Chairman and CEO of Excelon.</p>
<p><a href="http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/obamas-exelon-ties-ayers-connection/8/" rel="nofollow">http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/obamas-exelon-ties-ayers-connection/8/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/barack-and-rahm-heart-exelon/" rel="nofollow">http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/barack-and-rahm-heart-exelon/</a></p>
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		<title>By: lark</title>
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		<dc:creator>lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.</description>
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		<title>By: lark</title>
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		<dc:creator>lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s exactly right.

So far everything is going on schedule and ahead of schedule on Obama&#039;s quest and the Democratic Party intention to destroy our country from within. 

Lets have the marching bands play their fanfare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s exactly right.</p>
<p>So far everything is going on schedule and ahead of schedule on Obama&#8217;s quest and the Democratic Party intention to destroy our country from within. </p>
<p>Lets have the marching bands play their fanfare.</p>
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