Democrats’ “Coming Rift?” or a Spreading One?
By LisaB on January 9, 2009 at 8:45 AM in Current Affairs
Commentary magazine’s Abe Greenwald writes about the “Coming Rift” in the Democratic Party. There’s some interesting stuff here, but I’d say — wouldn’t you? — that he is actually months late. But no matter.
Greenwald talks about how the netroots that helped propel Obama to the White House may be feeling betrayed by the moves of the transition and the likely policies of an Obama administration.
Greenwald notes that the left and many other Americans desperately want the Iraq war ended but that Obama has signaled that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
. . . There’s the Iraq War. A December Washington Post/ABC News poll found that 7 in 10 voters believed that Obama “should fulfill his campaign promise to withdraw U.S. forces from Iraq within 16 months.” If that figure represents the average voter, we can safely assume that more than 70 percent of Democratic voters supported this sentiment. But as Eli Lake argued in an indispensable New Republic article from Christmas Eve, “For all the talk of withdrawal and timetables, however, nothing like that is likely to happen.”
What is likely to happen is that President Obama will stick to the ratified status of forces agreement, keeping troops in Iraq for three more years and allowing for a renegotiation which will probably keep troops there a good deal longer, if not indefinitely. This likelihood is, of course, of a piece with Obama’s choice to stick with George W. Bush’s last Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.
Greenwald also notes that Obama’s LGBT supporters have been surprised.
There’s gay marriage. In October, Michelle Obama stood before a gay and lesbian Chicago audience and said, “I feel like I’m preaching to the choir because you know Barack’s record” on “issues of interest to the LGBT community.” Maybe they didn’t know as much as the future first lady assumed. Between the President-elect’s previously ignored stand against gay marriage, Proposition 8 support from a key Obama voting bloc, and his scheduling of Rick Warren to give the invocation at his presidential inauguration, the liberal gay community isn’t quite sure what hit it.
And, speaking of economics, Obama isn’t drifting left there either.
On the economic front, what Larry Kudlow deems “a pleasant surprise” has the spread-the-wealth crowd in a tizzy. The punitive tax hike on the “rich” that Obama spoke about throughout the campaign is on hold, while a program of new business tax cuts and personal tax credits has been offered in its place.
So, Greenwald asks, how does Obama get the drooling support of the left and then practically turn his back on them after the voting is done?
Open-ended global instability has made certain that the U.S. will stick to the most vital Bush national security positions. Similarly, economic uncertainty requires the continuation of the Bush tax cuts and the indefinite postponement of pie-in-the-sky entitlements. Despite the campaign scraps thrown to the left-wing chorus and the sham apologetics offered to the international community, many liberal policies have been temporarily rendered non-starters. But if Democratic leaders are resigned to the judicious employment of conservative principles, and Democratic voters are not, where is the party heading?
It’s hard to say, but it can’t hurt to look at how this gap came about. One place to start is with the netroots. The runaway train of preposterous (and liberal) expectations that delivered Barack Obama into the White House first gained speed as a runaway train full of preposterous accusations against George W. Bush. With their cartoonish demonization of every Bush policy and associate, groups like the Daily Kos and Moveon.org made it impossible for any liberal with a web browser to give a single conservative policy a fair shake. Barack Obama’s exploitation and mobilization of this online hysteria made for an unstoppable campaign, but also for an illusory state of political affairs. Democratic politicians, President-elect Obama included, always knew better than the frenzied multitude that voted in “change.” But the netroots were duped as a result of their own momentum.
Greenwald ends by saying that if the Democratic party isn’t going to fracture completely, the left needs to rethink and reach out. Yeah. That’ll happen. We have long talked about the difference between what the Bots seem to think Obama will do and what he has clearly done. We’ve also long predicted that salivating supporters will be disappointed.
Back in July, SusanUnPC said this after discussing Obama’s flip-flops on public campaign funds, FISA, Iraq and other positions.
Look. The only “change” anyone can believe that Barack Obama will act on is any finger-to-the-wind “change” that helps him achieve his SOLE goal: Winning.
He is not abandoning his principles because he doesn’t have any that he holds dear.
Medusa and Bud White also covered Obama switches in June.
Two-faced? Hypocritical? Or showing his true colors? Last week Barack Obama made 180 degree turns on three previous positions he had taken in order to seduce liberal Democrats. In an article entitled “For Obama, winning is everything“, Michael Tomasky writes of these changes, claiming that:
It’s acceptable – and necessary – for Barack Obama to compromise his liberal principles in order to get elected.
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The second liberal principal Obama sacrificed in the space of one week is his decision to support a bill that gives the telecoms retroactive immunity. Only last year Obama promised to filibuster the bill but instead, in a stomach-lurching turn to the right, he gave his support to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. . .
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As Michael Tomasky writes, most liberals are opposed to the death penalty, so when Obama joined in with the most conservative minority of the supreme court justices to support the death penalty in the case of the rape of a child, he turned more right than many from the right wing, causing many of his supporters to doubt their support.
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Indeed, there is an emerging narrative — not just in the blogosphere — that Obama is two-faced. Unlike the charge that Kerry was a flip-flopper, this narrative is born out of Obama’s own actions; no windsurfing imagery is necessary, even the big blogs are beginning to see that Obama has no core values and that he suddenly shifts positions and rhetoric to suit his needs.
Does anyone remember the kerfluffle back in March about NAFTA and Canada when an Obama staffer told Canadian officials that campaign statements to the contrary notwithstanding, Obama would continue to support NAFTA? NQ covered it then.
That was Larry Johnson’s response tonight when I showed him the New York Times/A.P. story just published that confirms what the Obama camp has scurried away from: That Obama economic adviser Austan Goolsbee contacted officials with the Canadian consulate in Chicago and assured them that they should not worry about Obama’s remarks about NAFTA. Goolsbee, reported national Canadian media giant CTV.ca, “said that when Senator Obama talks about opting out of the free trade deal, the Canadian government shouldn’t worry. The operative said it was just campaign rhetoric.”
The A.P. has obtained the actual memorandum produced by the Canadian consulate as a record of its meeting.
Then there was Obama’s flip on the Energy bill (from March).
But it’s that last part that gave me a chuckle because, well, Senator Obama has been FAR from consistent on trade policy or hardly any policy at all. In fact he makes stuff up that sounds really good to his adoring fans, he even puts out commercials touting his strong support for workers in need. But when one examines his “consistent” record there is indeed a consistency there, but it is the type of consistency that is inconsistent and is more than a little troubling. In fact you might say that his rhetoric and his actions are two entirely different things as this recent NAFTAgate scandal is making very clear. the guy talks a good game, but when it comes to actually taking action he is missing in action.
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The first example the American people experienced of Senator Obama’s post-partisan working across the aisle approach was on July, 29 2005. On that fateful day Senator Obama voted YEA to the Dick Cheney behind closed doors Energy Policy Act of 2005. The same so-called Energy Policy that offered HUGE giveaways to the oil companies and special interests. I’m sure you have heard Senator Obama on the stump claiming:Washington’s failure is the failure of a president who spent most of his time in office denying the very existence of global warming – of a Vice President who developed America’s energy policy with a secret task force that opened the door to oil lobbyists and then shut it to every other point of view.
To anyone paying attention, Obama loooonnggg ago signaled that he would move away from any lefty position after supporters were already dialed in. Months ago, the left were “outraged” by Obama’s stance on FISA, Iraq, LGBT issues, NAFTA, economic policies, the death penalty, etc. Pick one.
We covered all that then and realized the pattern was that his statements on these issues DID NOT MATTER. All the people expecting huge change from Obama would be disappointed, we warned. Support the guy if you will, but don’t be fooled we said. Time and again.
So, pardon us if we don’t quite feel your pain now. We got inoculated quite a while ago to the “Obama promise.” And that “coming rift” Greenwald talks about? Well, some form of it has long been noticeable, from the PUMA movement to Democrats for McCain to the post prop 8 LGBT community to people who felt the Democratic party left them.
The rift has long been there, but the Democratic party has simply sailed on, assuming the people it jerks around have no where else to go. So, all you women, LGBT, civil libertarians and whomever else feels they got skunked, just take it and go away.
Unless you’ve got another idea.
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A Smattering of NQ articles on Obama switches:
Post Informercial bits and lots of other quibbles
Obama’s infomercial.
Jesse Jackson suggests Obama owes him and that many US policies will change under Obama – notably toward Israel.
Jackson – Obama Foreign Policy Includes Apologies and less “Jewish Clout”
If you are interested in what the Brits thought about possible Obama policies before the election, read this article from October.
Sir Nigel Sheinwald on Senator Obama
RRRA noted Obama flip-flops back in September
It Was Only a Matter of Time
Back in August, we noted (see #3 in the story) that some Obama supporters felt alienated at the convention.
How Does Obama Attack a White Woman in the Post OJ Era – Part Deux
Ani mentioned old as new again back in August.
Obama: Old Politics Dressed Up in a Shiny New Suit
Medusa wrote about Backtrack Obama and flip flops on Iraq
The Clowns of the Circus: Flip Flops and Shenanigans
Susan wrote a GREAT piece on Obama backtracking back in JULY. This piece discusses Obama’s switches on wiretapping, accepting public campaign financing funds, and other changes.
Even the New York Times Editorial Board Turns on Obama
Larry had a few things to say about Obama and Iraq back in July.
Obama, The Fast Change Bamboozler
Medusa also talked about Obama’s wanting to have it all ways.
Obama’s Two Faces and Forked Tongue
NQ noticed back in April that Obama’s support of the LGBT community was less than soulful.
Open Letter to all LGBT Community Members and Supporters
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“That’s not the Democratic Party I knew. . .”
I’m sobered and saddened….
LOL!
LOL!!
I love your name!!
Let us not forget how the Obots kept saying that Obama and Hillary’s platforms were so similar. They simply did not understand that Hillary had a history of championing certain issues (women’s rights around the world and healthcare, etc.) and Obama had a history of bamboozling. BTW, how do you come onto the scene SECOND and have an almost identical platform without copying it? Things like that don’t happen by accident.
And yet, other than a wind flapper, we still don’t know who Obama is or what his true beliefs are, if any.
to be all things to all people: to be vague so that folks can project their own hopes into the empty space.
president etch a sketch /snark
LMAO!!!!
NoQuarter is on fire today!
This statement is a clear, concise explanation of how Obama got this job. All of his far left promises were just to mesmerize the easily led Obots. A president does not get to pass any and all bills just because he wants them. Not only does the opposing party have to support it to an extent, the president’s own party has to support it too. Then there are all kinds of things they can do to stall or derail bills.
Feel sorry for them? The only sympathy I have for them is that they are delusional.
wodie: you make a good point. Even I forget how gullible and uninformed the youth voters were so that it was easy to turn them against the Clintons and sell Obama as the second coming. Everyday I think what a shame Hillary isn’t President. I’ll never see Obama as president, I look at him at just see a puppet.
i have NO sympathy for the bots. none!
The bottom line in all of this is that the Democrats split when Bill Clinton was impeached which opened the door for a Republican administration. Then Bush was so disastrous the Democrats rallied and several Independents and Republicans joined them in voting for whoever the Democrats ran. The DNC knew it was a year for that, so they forced a hand-picked candidate. The far left got all excited about Obama just because he was black. Democrats assume blacks are left wing. All this stuff is more about the party and less about the individual.
Very astute observations, tek. Bill Clinton’s presidency did indeed split the party, for a couple of reasons: 1)Clinton was a true liberal in terms of “values” issues, cabinet appointments and USSC appointments, but he failed to fight against disastrous “conservative” economic policies, many of which either started or continued the problems we’re facing today; and 2)although every legal challenge against the Clintons by the Republicans failed, the number of Dems today who still believe the Clintons aren’t true liberals is a result, IMO, of too many supposed liberals believing the Repub hogwash. Why else would CDS continue to be so strong among so-called Democrats?
Because Obama was my Senator, I knew first-hand that he was a lightweight, barely able to function in responding to constituent needs, but I strongly believe you’re correct that his skin color made many Dem voters believe he would be as progressive in his policies as the CBC’s voting track record. Black Agenda Report, and others, tried to warn voters about Obama’s “blackness” being only skin deep, but the traditional media decided once again that it was going to select our next President and never bothered to ask the tough questions during the primaries or during the campaign.
One thing I will say about Bill Clinton and Barack Obama that I think they both have in common, sadly–they both seem to be more concerned about being popular than being effective. Heaven help us.
Democrats “Coming Rift.” Ya think, Abe?
We live in an era of instant communication, but if people don’t look at what’s going on around them what good does it do? Dispatches sent from field operatives to General George Washington moved with more speed and more accurate intelligence than news moves today.
What can we expect when the so-called newspaper of record, the New York Times, is still discovering Tex-Mex cuisine, tapa bars, and mommies who write blogs.
I thank Divine Providence for No Quarter.
Just kidding?
Nicely done, LisaB!
You know, what continues to amaze me are the number of groups who watch Obama throw group after group under the bus, but NEVER think it will happen to THEM!!
There has been ample evidence that Obama doses not stand for ANYTHING, and will say whatever gets him where he wants to be.
Another groups learning that he has NO loyalty are Senate Dems. Rockefeller was not amused that Obama didn’t consult him abt who would head up the CIA. Well, ya know what, Jay? When you throw 2/3 of your entire STATE under the bus, you get what you have coming to you. Should have seen it coming.
I will never forget, or forgive, the way the DNC gave the nomination to Obama no matter what the people wanted. They deserve everything they get and more, if you ask me…
The kind of denial we are now seeing from these groups borders on (is?) delusion.
I’m with you RRRA, I, too, will never forget and forgive. We could have had a real “historical” president in Hillary Clinton, instead we got shafted. I’m also not forgiving the GLBT, the latte liberals, and the feminists who climbed onboard this train wreck and allowed it to drag this whole country down.
“I told you so” may be small comfort but I intend to milk it for all its worth.
my Obamabot (ex)friends may as well block me if they want to stop receiving email coverage of this phenom.
I know – small comfort when our country is at stake, but holy cow, we DID try to tell them!!! But noooooo…
Really nice to have you around Capt Howdy! And look for a H/T to you in my next post!
thanks amy
nice to have a haven of sanity to hang around.
i went to view talk left yesterday. several things i noted were: there is more positive talk of clinton and more criticism of obama. there is no diary on the gaza conflict(???), and squeaky is paranoid thinking the hillary supporters are all out there i guess trying to get him. geez! my point is this, if this particular blog that went for obama is swinging back then i wonder if others are as well. i noticed that cnn doesn’t seem to in love anymore with obama either.
the next presidential election is going to be interesting I think. I suspect he is going to piss off a lot of folks between now and then.
Lisa, you really made a concise case.
Who is Bo? My deeper question is “who are the democrats now?”
They were so intent on emulating the Republicans, in order to start winning elections again, that I can not tell one from the other!
I agree that those who blindly followed the “new label” deserve the sour mash in the bottle!
I fear that Obama has created a cult of personality. My bet is that anything he proposes will be acceptable. Personality cults are a great danger, as history tells us.
We already have half-hour television shows selling Obama coins, for crying out loud.
Obama will get a free pass for a long time. Years.
A proper Obama coin would have his face on both sides, with one side scarred.
You mean you don’t have that coin already?
Some of the Obama coins are ‘real Liberian tender’! it makes me laugh out loud every time I see them…
I’ve caught that remark, too.
I’m getting repetative injuries from always having to shake my head! Can I sue Obama and the democrats for damages? Class action lawsuit, anyone want to join?
Nope Csuzeq, I’m afraid you’re out of luck. It’s been scientifically proven that head-shaking is really good exercise. The One himself does it, particularly before ever speech. He practices:
Left teleprompter,
Right teleprompter,
Left teleptrompter,
Right.
Left teleprompter,
Right teleprompter,
Left teleprompter,
Right.
Now you try it!
made me chuckle
thanks!
should we take bets on what the next Obamasnafu will be?
well marge at least that china with obama and his “kind” eyes is gone. i hope!
Darn it. I didn’t buy one of those. I guess it really was a limited edition.
By the way, are all these Obama plates and coins made in the USA?
Of course not! Made in the USA? Barrakula would not stand for that. He looks down on folks who manufacture things in America!
If you really want one, try a Walgreens. I was there on Christmas Eve and they had them right by the registers. Just to make me puke. The thing is there were plenty of them. I guess they weren’t selling very well??????
Feinstein ain’t happy. Rockerfeller ain’t happy. Pelosi and Reid are still trying to pretend they’re in charge.
Pass the popcorn.
Obama lied and obscured throughout the entire campaign (another resemblance to bush). Why would anybody think that would change now?
Awwww, and then there’s this a friend emailed me.
You don’t think John Kerry has bad feelings about not being Secretary of State, do you?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090108/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_taxes
This is why an Obama Presidency frightens me. He has a way of making enemies. We haven’t even let him have those sit down, make nice meetings with Castro and Armedinejhad, but you can’t make promises to people like that and then stab them in the back! John Kerry at least won’t nuke us, certain country’s leaders??? We need to be afraid!
I’m scared of the bad hair, but yeah, Kerry won’t nuke us.
Yeah, we wouldn’t want to make enemies out of Castro and “Armedinejhad.” Heaven forbid we get on the wrong side of Cuba and Iran.
Go back to outer space cat. What I meant was when you do have enemies, you don’t want to go making all kinds of promises that you don’t intend to keep. Odrama loves to tell everybody on all sides that he is on their side, while in reality he is only on his side. That kind of crap enrages people, especially deranged lunatics in power.
Have you ever had a person lie to you and then stab you in the back?????
You don’t get how Obama just is exactly the opposite of JFK …
JFK had a way of allowing people to lose gracefully and still saving face. That was the genius he displayed in the Cuban Missile Crisis, after he misread Khrushev and bungled the Bay of Pigs.
Now you have someone, our Commander in Chief and leader of the free world, who the world doesn’t even know if he will uphold his promises, as evidenced by the Muslim world being pissed at his lack of response to the Gaza crisis. And on top of that he has a track record of rising to the top on the backs of others, abandoning them when necessary and then forcing coercion by his newfound friends. This approach makes many many enemies and friends who are always looking for their knife in their backside. This is more than mere politics as usual, because Obama has courted the world on charm only.
Even Raul Castro doesn’t trust Obama, your dear leader. He said that Obama has raised toooo much expectations. too bad for him
Obama is not the problem. People who do not unquestioningly embrace all things Obama are the problem. Dissenting voices must be rooted out at all costs.
When a people have invested a lot of time, money and emotion on another person, they are reluctant to see that they have wasted their efforts on a fraud. You see this sort of thing on a small scale in everyday life.
I had hoped that the bullying repression would end on election day, but if anything it is worse. Look at what they are trying to do to Uppitty Woman?
It is of greatest importance to support blogs like No Quarter. We are dealing in an atmosphere of facism.
Obama is going to get a free pass for years.
Now there’s some poetry, Arabella: “an atmosphere of fascism,” if you say it out loud, it twists your face into a sneer, and you can almost taste it, almost smell it. Uggghhh!
Thanks. I practiced it in front of a mirror.
I think, sadly, that your comments about 0’s free pass are correct. He has set the terms of discourse and even his most vehement critics are going along with them. Read comments (and, worst of all, posts) on this blog about the Roland Burris appointment and what do you see again and again? How scandalous it is that a black man is being treated like this. This is the 0 party line. This is a set-up. People are being played. It should be obvious, but it’s not. The black man who should be praised in the matter is the one to whom Blago offered the seat first, and had the good judgement to refuse it. If Burris had done the same, we would not be distracted from the real issue, which has nothing to do with race. The real issue is the corruption in Illinois that put 0 on the path to the White House. The free pass starts right here, folks.
Good morning, Hilltards.
I wish I had a nuke for you outerspace cat.
Go kiss your leader Odrama!
In other words, F off!
Oh yeah, here’s the guy who says that rational people have moved on from paying attention to PUMAs and yet comes here daily to harass us. Obsessed, you think?
I fed the zoo animal. i should know better. I will stop now. Let’s ignore space troll.
Hey, didn’t BoBo just give a speech promising national computerized medical records in the U.S. in five years? What are these people complaining about? End sarcasm.
The insurance industry would love this. Say goodbye to privacy!
For a time, one of my health insurance carriers (Aetna?) tried to convince insurance holders to submit health data voluntarily to a database. To be “helpful” in case you forgot what medications you took.
It’s those damn medical transcriptionists that cause health care costs to soar! And it’ll only take 5 years to get rid of them. Lol. Think of the last time congress went to work on health care and be afraid, very afraid.
I hope everyone will ignore SpaceCat today. He’s begging to be spayed because his litter box smells so bad.
Good article, Lisa. I just had a conversaton with my younger son [who ended up supporting the "O"]. He’s now expressing doubt about Obama’s stimulus package and some of the appointments.
I really had to bite my tongue. We had enough arguments before the election.
But . . . someone said in addition to “who” Obama is, who or what are the Democrats now? It’s a question I’ve been asking myself because I truly feel adrift. This I know: I will no longer support the party line simply because of the Democratic label. I don’t trust the party or the leadership.
In terms of throwing people overboard, I read an article yesterday that Howard Dean was quickly disposed of after the election [I'd wondered what had happened to him]. Presumably, he’d expected a cabinet position for his 50-state strategy but was summarily dismissed.
Lots of rifts. Makes me wonder why Obama feels he can be so cavalier with people. Unless he truly believes his own spin: he is “The One.”
Good points. Why would you fire Howard Dean who was instrumental in winning the last two elections?
This makes no sense to me. But perhaps Dr. Dean outlived his “usefulness”.
The old Hollywood saying may be coming true. When you start to believe your own press it’s the kiss of death to your career.
I find it odd about Howie Dean too. He was one of the big jerks who promoted the caucus fraud and destruction of HRC in the primary. After selling his black little heart and soul, literally, for the Fraud I wonder WTF happened to him. I expected a big ole cabinet post for the pay to play scheme in the primary for crapstain Howie.
Peggy in his sick twisted mind he does believe he is the ONE.
Heard that Obama purposely avoided being photographed with Mayor Newsom of San Francisco and that the mayor was very impressed with Hillary’s comments on gay issues so he endorsed her.
Guess the gays will be disappointed again. When will Andrew Sullivan ever learn — he certainly knows how to pick ‘em — first Bush and now That One!
the short answer is andrew sullivan will never learn. he jumps from ship to ship never ever landing anywhere.
I realize there are people here who want Obama to succeed so the country does not suffer, but I feel it is actually better for the country in the long run if Obama does not succeed.
Obama’s win would mean that style over substance will become the defining factor in elections; that money will trump integrity; that propaganda will triumph over truth.
I really did not have many doubts about my opposition to Obama, but I have spoken to Mccain voting friends who did wonder if perhaps Obama wasn’t “that bad” and were we doing the right thing?
I am happy that Obama has EXCEEDED my expectations in terms of waffling, BS, and moves towards the right.
Those naive jerks on the left who shafted Hillary still don’t know what hit them.
But I’m happy because I now know that all that energy I expended in trying to defeat Obama was not spent in vain – that we PUMAs were RIGHT, that this will only show more and more in the coming years, and that we will get our payback in 2012 (Sarah Palin).
I know some folks don’t believe Palin has what it takes to be president but I think after 4 years of Obama/Kennedy elitist crap we’ll see a swing back into the direction of REAL people.
So good job so far, Obama, thanks for proving me right.
I agree with you. If Obama succeeds or is allowed to appear to succeed through media coverups then we will never have a real President again. Only media creations and money purchases. No more people’s Presidents. I just can’t tolerate that. Better suffer as a country than kiss it goodbye forever!
Hillary or Bust, I don’t want him to succeed either, or this country will no longer have any democracy left, just corruption – Chicago style. I do hope for the end of the Democratic Party and that another Party rises in its place.
Hillary or Bust…you are 100% correct. Fraudbama should fail for what he has already done to this country. He WILL fail, that’s a given. But for him to succeed would mean that the Constitution, Democracy, everything America is are distant memories for us. We can NEVER allow this again, which is why I revere PUMAS. NO MORE FRAUD.
I received a plea from the Democrats via Obama whining for money – even five dollars would do – yesterday.
I wrote back and said that since the Democratic party no longer represented democracy I would not contribute.
If that is symptomatic of the rift in the democratic party, so be it.
Let the obots donate out of their unemployment checks and Starbuck’s coffee funds.
I’d rather give five bucks to the Berg case against Obama.
Well, considering that Obama only got 52% of the vote in a two-man race, this rift won’t be that big.
I reread your post Patrick Walker…my bad. I misinterpreted your intent.
Agreed: Obama isn’t all that favored by the dem party. However, the clingon Obots will have the most disapppointment to deal with.
again, sorry.
That would be true if the obot assumption that things will stay static as to Obama’s popularity plays out. However, time marches on and the rift will deepen as it always does.
Remember Bush right after 9/11? And what is his approval rating today?
Your political acumen is about at Bush’s approval rating, Patrick Walker.
The Dems have long ago lost their long-time, thinking, supporters. Crazy that they might be worrying about anything now after that sham of a primary and the total joke of a convention! They just threw my vote in the garbage can, so I’m an independent now.
To the party formerly known as “Democratic…”
R.I.P
It won’t be long until no one will admit to being a democrat!
bo sure isn’t…
And to think we could have had Hillary who didn’t pay lip service to getting us out of Iraq. She KNOWS the importance of getting us out for econonical reasons.
I want Hillary now.
I can’t stand this FraudO and the threat he poses on our future. AA’s got up early and voted multiple times. They said to themselves “white man ain’t gonna let him in so let’s go vote over and over so he gets in.”
Who is going to stop voter fraud? We are in serious trouble with FraudO at the helm and he hasn’t even been sworn in.
The You tube called ‘Invisible’ is what we have in store for the nation. And wait until the OBOTS get DRAFTED to war. That’s coming sooner than later. And did you know that FraudO never registered his selective service which is a requirement of all who reach the age of 18 beginning in Oct 1959? That means he is not a citizen. He is ineligible in more ways than one. God please stop this now.
Rise Hillary. 2009 Our real winner!
We’ll we warned the OBOTS this would come to pass and all they wanted was to do the kewl thing and vote for CrudObama ’cause all their friends were.
Everyone take a moment and pray for Berg’s case today which is a tipping point. God Help us!
Fuck the Democratic Party.
Signed,
An ex-loyal Democrat for over 30 years.
So, pardon us if we don’t quite feel your pain now. We got inoculated quite a while ago to the “Obama promise.”
So true. If the Left hadn’t been having so much fun calling everyone racists and shit, they might have waken up in time for us to have a real Democrat in the WH. It doesn’t matter now. We’re all stuck with him. At least Larry Kudlow is happy.
And speaking of Kudlow, I heard on CNBC that Robert Rubin of Citibank is stepping down. They were wondering if he’d be one of the CEOs subject to “claw backs” and have to give back some of the millions he’d raked in during Wall St.’s giant ponzi scheme. It’s amazing how many of the people who supported Obama are under the TARP now.
Repeat after me:
OBAMA IS NOT A DEMOCRAT!
OBAMA IS NOT A DEMOCRAT!
He never was and never will be. He’s an OBUSH period.
Howard Dean should have known Obama would use him and then throw him under the bus. It happened before. Dean’s group, DFA, was a big part of getting BO elected to the Senate. They thought he was a Progressive back then. But once he won, BO turned against Dean, joining the “Dean doesn’t speak for me” Dems. BO went so far as to come out with a public statement critizing his anti-war stand. I could not believe BO’s disloyalty to a man who helped him so much. I sent BO an e-mail protesting his statement – do you think I’m in his “file?” That was the exact moment I started my dislike/distrust of BO, and he’s never done or said anything to change my mind.