Classic NQ: Oh, How We Loved Driving Obots Into a Frenzy with Our Anti-Idolatrous Writing at NoQuarter
By SusanUnPC on January 10, 2009 at 1:00 PM in Anti-Semitism, Gaza, Israel, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.
Susan’s Preface: Reverend Amy remembered this story by me from the primaries. She FORCED ME to post it since we’re trying to remind our readers, new and old, of some of the reasons why we might be worthy of an award for political commentary. So, embarrassed as I am to be flaunting my stuff, here goes.
Wow, the memories this story brings back! Do any of the rest of you remember the utterly insane General Tony McPeak who Obama, straight-faced, introduced as his chief military adviser? (Which made us all gasp with genuine fear?)
I wonder where Gen. McPeak is these days? Have any of you seen him anywhere recently? Is he maybe 7,000 miles away under that bus in American-Samoa along with Howard Dean?
[See: "Notable Absence of Howard Dean, January 9, 2009."]
Obama’s top defense adviser on Jews,
and Rev. Wright’s Support
of Hamas
Gen. Tony McPeak, Obama’s top military adviser, was interviewed by a newspaper about the Israeli/Palestinian peace process:
The interviewer asked McPeak: “So where’s the problem? State? White House?”
McPeak replied: “New York City. Miami. We have a large vote — vote, here in favor of Israel. And no politician wants to run against it.”
Translation (as if it’s needed): Jews — who put Israel over every American interest — control America’s policy on the Middle East. And McPeak has the audacity to accuse Bill Clinton of McCarthyism.
For more on Gen. McPeak, read Larry Johnson’s post, “Senator Obama, Have You No Decency?” [The photo above comes from Saturday's rally in Medford, Oregon. Larry quotes from their speeches at that rally.]
Below, “Obama church published Hamas terror manifesto: Compares charter calling for murder of Jews to Declaration of Independence,” along with the PDF of the actual Obama church bulletin:
More:
Sen. Barack Obama’s Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group’s official charter – which calls for the murder of Jews – to America’s Declaration of Independence.
| The Hamas piece was published on the “Pastor’s Page” of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week. |
Yet more:
The revelation follows a recent WND article quoting Israeli security officials who expressed “concern” about Robert Malley, an adviser to Obama who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.
In his July 22, 2007, church bulletin, Wright reprinted an article by Mousa Abu Marzook, identified in the newsletter as a “deputy of the political bureau of Hamas.” A photo image of the newsletter was captured and posted today by the business blog BizzyBlog. The Hamas piece was first published by the Los Angeles Times, garnering the newspaper much criticism.
According to senior Israeli security officials, Marzook, who resides in Syria alongside Hamas chieftain Khaled Meshaal, is considered the “brains” behind Hamas, designing much of the terror group’s policies and ideology. Israel possesses what it says is a large volume of specific evidence that Marzook has been directly involved in calling for or planning scores of Hamas terrorist offensives, including deadly suicide bombings. He was also accused of attempting to set up a Hamas network in the U.S. …
He tried to set up a Hamas network in the U.S. Yet, Obama’s pastor for 20 years thinks so highly of him that he posts his writings in the CHURCH BULLETIN? I hardly know what to say.
NOTE: I have uploaded the actual church bulletin: tuccbulletin_july22.pdf
The “Pastor’s Page” (Jeremiah Wright’s page) features this: “A FRESH VIEW OF THE PALESTINIAN STRUGGLE,” written by Mousa Abu Marzook.
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By Sarah Palin (Release date: November 17. 2009)
Progressives are reframing Hamas as a the helpless victim of Israeli aggression. I see it daily lately.
Obamabots will ignore your pdf and the unthinking, uncritical left will shrug and try to justify it. Anyway Obama is done with Wright, and trying to make any links between them is racism.
Also, Mousa Abu Marzook is just a nice guy from Falls Churh, VA. Some of his children were born in the states (hihi Tariq, still partying I hope). Just because Abu Marzook likes bombs a bit too much should not be held against him. Its racist to think ill of him, in addition it is warmongering and culturally insensitive.
This talk of PR is nonsense, without the abilty to recognize the truth, particularly in military circles, one cannot win.
Is this really a frame, or is it the truth?
And they dont want to know.
I think those who depend on PR control only fool themselves, like Cheney and Bush, a sure sign of loss, making decisions based on false premises, one after another.
At times like these, I am truly grateful for American’s democracy.
You can absolutely win a military victory without any reference to “truth, justice and the american way”. Happens all the time.
I am always grateful for the US Bill of Rights, which still provides me some limited protection from the democratic mob.
“Progressives are reframing Hamas as a the helpless victim of Israeli aggression.”
False. Unless you can demonstrated it. I know of not one “progressive” that is reframing Hamas as helpless victim. Palestinian does not = Hamas no matter how many times you say it.
Palestinians and Israeli citizens are innocent victims in a battle between Hamas and the Israeli government. <— This is the more accurate statement.
truthtelling007 -
You claim Rev. Wright was correct re: “Chickens coming home to roost” and 9/11,
yet you claim Palestinians are innocent victims.
You’re despicable.
no, I said I agree with him that it was blowback. Blowback is the term used for the unintended consequences of actions.
Further I state, and you ignored, that his timing was callous, insensitive, and wrong. He said all that the following Sunday. How dare he.
You act like what he said was in a vacuum. I suggest you read Richard Clarke’s book, Against All Enemies and look at the backdrop of the story.
I also feel that the people in WTC were innocent. I feel the people who were in the Pentagon were innocent. But the policies we keep on with are interwoven in our results. If you simply wish to ignore that fine.
And yes, there are innocent Palestinian and Israeli citizens who are being attacked on both sides in the battles between Hamas and the Israeli government. How dare I acknowledge this…the shame.
Do you understand what “collective punishment” is? Because you and your ilk keep advocating actions towards the “Palestinians” as a group based on the actions of the militants. This by law is “Collective Punishment” and it is explicitly a War Crime. (Geneva Conventions Article 33) You make my case much easier every time you fail to make the distinction between Palestinian citizens and the radicals in Hamas or Hezbollah.
If you want to gloss over all that with simplifications, that is your problem. You simply confuse yourself.
And your opinion of me isn’t my concern. I think your simplifications are silly and “despicable”.
I don’t need any moral advice from the likes of you.
I didn’t give you moral advice. I examined your words. It was clear that you weren’t open to advice that didn’t pat you on the back some time ago.
You are right about “collective punishment.” It has been categorized as a war crime for a long time. I think it’s pretty clear from the tenor of their comments that the morally challenged among us understand exactly what it is, and support it.
Unlike you terrorist supporters…
Of COURSE Fraudbama is on the wrong side of this. Yeah, yeah, we’re not supposed to say what the truth is…the “racist” Muslim talk about who he really is. I wonder what he will do now that Congress passed the resolution IN SUPPORT OF ISRAEL. Sorry to all of the Israel haters and Hamas supporters, but smarter heads prevailed, America took a stand as they SHOULD HAVE, and it’s on the side of Israel defending themselves against terrorism. Too bad for the haters, for Fraudbama and for the Hamas nuts.
Hamas is NOT the asnwer, certainly a terrorist group, like a terrorist state, is never stable, one can never do business with them without a significant change in culture, and leadership.
But a dialouge is certainly a good thing, the Paelestinians horrifically victimized, I don’t think Israel is aware of how bad it looks, how it will go down, alone. Even from the time this was first published, my view on Israel has changed significanly, this current attack on Gaza, revolting.
The US needs to come out on the right side of this issue, to avoid further isolation.
And the Israeli neocons aren’t the Jewish people, that needs to be remembered.
The US just DID take a stand…ON ISRAEL’S RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
NO, Bush did.
The rest of the US is appalled, and if I were advising a candidate, I would point that out as a truth.
Uhhh…Maybe you need to understand how the government works. CONGRESS PASSED THE RESOLUTION IN A LANDSLIDE. Congress has the BRAINS to know that freedom only exists when people are free from, and can defend themselves against, TERRORISM. If you love Hamas and have an issue about what YOUR REPRESENTATIVES just voted for, take it up with them. Personally I am proud as hell about it because reading some of the posts here had depressed me to death about that hate and I have friends who won’t post here because of the Anti-Israel stuff.
thanks for posting that….I didn’t know. I’m glad they are on the right side of this one.
obama/fraud is correct. Here’s a story about the Senate vote in Foreign Policy Journal.
In the House, the vote was overwhelmingly in support of Israel’s action against terrorists. Only a few — Dennis Kucinich, Barbara Lee, et al. — voted nay. Some abstained.
I am in favor of Israel’s action against terrorists. I just wish that they’d take Larry’s point that there are military means to take action that would avoid so many civilian casualties. And the killing of TWO United Nations employees is a tragedy. Israel needs to do better than that.
That’s why Larry also published Pat Lang’s detailed knowledge and observations about the IDF — a must-read that has nearly 300 comments — which reveals the significant differences in how it chooses its military leadership versus the system that the U.S. military chooses. The U.S. system is clearly better with new officers, fresh out of West Point et al., being given master sergeants and sergeants at their side to GUIDE them in the “nuts and bolts” of military units.
Susan,
No offense, but this is important. If Congress passed the Resolution, I would think NQ would post it? I tried to post it three times and it went to spam/moderation. The Resolution is VERY CLEAR that our position is that Hamas is a “terrorist organization dedicated to the destruction of Israel” and that we stand by Israel’s right to retaliate and defend themselves. Since NQ has posted stuff on the other side, might it be fair and balanced to post that Resolution so people get their information right about who passed it and what it says? Clearly it wasn’t BUSH alone, as another poster inaccurately stated.
Congress has passed dozens–perhaps hundreds–of “resolutions” regarding Israel’s “right to defend itself.” These resolutions are nothing but propaganda.
Congress has also passed laws giving us such treasures as the PATRIOT act, FISA spying on Americans, and the AUMF in Iraq.
Congress gave us most recently legislation authorizing Hanky Paulson to unilaterally dispense $700 Billion to his friends in corporate finance and didn’t include the most fundamental requirements for disclosure. That speaks to the level of wisdom of our legislators, not to mention their level of ethical standards.
Passing a law doesn’t give that law moral authority. Our Congress is making their Israeli Lobby donors happy, but they are not representing America’s best interests by passing resolutions defending war crimes against innocent Palestinians.
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/01/10/israel-tells-gazans-to-brace-for-yet-more-escalation/
OIAF, I agree with you about Hamas and I’m glad the resolution was passed stating the obvious:
that Hamas is a “terrorist organization dedicated to the destruction of Israel.”
To apologize for terrorism is to kiss your [our] own survival good-bye.
On the other hand, I’ve been trying to get my head around many NQ comments referring to proportionality. The orginal definition I picked up was this nonsense that Israel should tie one arm behind her back to “be fair.” In any armed conflict, that attitude is just plain nuts. Even Barack Obama knows that, he of the “you bring a knife, we’ll bring a gun” fame.
But a proportioned response from a different angle has more to do with “a smart response,” one that achieves your true objective–to make Hamas irrelevant, to zing them where they live by making it clear to the Palestinians [and all other groups] that their self-interest will never be served by linking themselves to terrorists.
I’m willing to concede that you’re unlikely to do that at the end of a gun. In fact, I fear that the more Hamas leaders and gunmen Israel manages to kill or wound, the more they create out of the general population. And the civilian deaths, whether large or small, unintentional or not, can, does and has shifted public opinion. Anti-semetism [which has always been around] is on an ugly surge right now. We all know how dangerous that can be.
I want to see Israel survive. She has an absolute right to protect her borders and her citizens. I think the question being asked is: what is the best way to do that for her long-term well-being, while ensuring Palestinian citizens their right to live and thrive?
No easy answers, for sure.
Peggy Sue,
I am trying to not have my blood boil over this stuff, but I really don’t think people will understand until it happens to us and we have to defend ourselves. Perhaps, God forbid, when one of our children dies from a Hamas attack we will retaliate and really anyone who tells me HOW to retaliate can go f**k themselves. I find it reprehensible to keep reading the nonsense about civilian casualties posted here. It’s propaganda and crap. Quite simply, if they want to secure the rights and lives of civilians, they should put the rockets down, stop using human shields and firing from civilian edifices, and stop attacking Israel. To blame Israel is, IMO, pathetic and why the left is losing so much credibility. Like I said, it’s sad that it will take happening to us before people “get it.” But, then again, the left thinks George Bush created and instrumented 9/11. God help us.
As for the above poster’s comment that Congress passing the Resolution “means nothing.” Well, to me it means we still know how to do the right thing and it’s the appropriate statement. Period. I guess Congress only matters when it’s doing things like voting on aborting live fetuses, etc.
Trust me, OIAF. If someone shot my child, I’d want to shoot right back. But I’d also want to make sure I shot the sucker who wounded my family.
And, of course, it’s easy to “give advice” from our cozy corner of the world. We all saw the reaction we had to 9/11. I didn’t hear a lot of voices for restraint then.
All I’m saying is that if you beat your head against a brick wall and it doesn’t move, maybe it’s time to try something else.
But I would never suggest giving Hamas a pass. They and all these other terrorist groups are an absolute menace. The question being asked [if I have this right] is what is the best way to fight this sort of conflict and win, once and for all?
As for a resolution to stand by an ally? It would be shameful for the United States to do anything less. But we can still ask questions, even of our allies. As they should be able to ask questions of us.
I think, Peggy Sue, that the worst part of it is us sitting here armchair quarterbacking it. Really, I wouldn’t let a Hamas POS near my DOG, much less tolerate them shooting rockets into my living room daily. But I also think it’s rather arrogant for people to think they can impose inappropriate, or non-sensical beliefs onto a situation that has been going on so long, and can’t be worked out just because we use propaganda to queer perception of Israel. The UN just called for a cease fire and BOTH sides, Israel and Hamas, basically said GFY. Guess they don’t want others telling them what to do.
Butch Zero/Mort -
Please cite:
Yeah I was wondering about that too. Outside of this blog, I find most people support Israel’s right to defend their country 100%. They also know when we start saying someone doesn’t have the right to defend themselves, that tells the terrorist it means US too.
Good Morning Oiaf!
Yes,
We both discussed the consequences of Obama winning.
A free fall in the economy and a rush to dismantle America’s sphere of influence. Because the terrorists view the US and Israel as one and the same any unilateral retreat by Israel is a retreat for America also and will lead to an emboldened enemy.
Morning Handsome!
As MeChelle says…”I’m really proud of my country” LOL. God bless Congress and the intelligent people who stood by our ally and the war against terror. I was starting to totally freak out with all of the propaganda and hate. WTF would that say about America? And it would totally weaken us against the Hamas nuts, who by the way would blow US to hell if they could too.
Sometimes you reach a point where differences are never mended. There is so much hate on both sides that the only remedy is to protect ones strategic interests or die.
Hamas and Iran don’t want peace. They want hegemony over the region and America destroyed.
Sometimes I wonder if this economic collapse is actually a terrorist attack.
The middle east money went somewhere. I wouldn’t be surprised that much of that money was used to speculate the rise of oil prices which have now broken the worlds economy.
Mossy,
Oil prices are in the toilet. It went from $147 to $40 almost overnight. My family is in the oil business. I think there is a lack of connect between the reality of why oil prices bounce around and politics. It’s laughable that people actually thought Iraq was about oil. Laughable. Iran and Venezuela are suffering now because of oil. Iran’s national income is down 2/3 as a result of the dropping prices. Oil should be around $80 and even Fraudbama has said that he won’t enact a Windfall Tax unless it gets there. People in America are a little spoiled. Europeans pay 10-12 Dollars a Gallon for gas. We have it way easier. It’s never going to be free and it’s, what, under 2$ a Gallon now?
What my mother has noticed about oil…when the stock market is up, oil goes up. She said back in the 80’s it was the exact opposite. But oil going down is now a reflection directly of the economic downturn, the lack of demand, etc. We’ll see what the left thinks of Fraudbama when he takes a stab at some energy issues. He took a lot of money from rich oil men in Texas so I doubt he’s really on the side of ditching oil. Also, his friends like Iran, Hamas, and the Arab countries rely on high oil prices. I wonder if this is going to be another FU to his voters.
Oh yeah, and the Fraud’s best friend Chavez relies heavily on oil income too. ROFLMAO…So let’s see what the Obots think about Mr. Green when he usurps the White House.
oiaf,
My family is also in the oil industry. In fact I buy resins to manufacture plastics every week. The point I’m making is that by driving up oil prices the middle easterners were able to break the camels back. Companies now are forced to lower prices even though the costs have already been calculated at a higher price reducing margins and profits.
I’m the first and only blogger to repeatedly bring up the specter of deflation and how it ruins all business.
Mossy, good point. I wish one thing more than any for Americans…I wish they would become educated about geopolitics and oil. I would hear the most RIDICULOUS crap about why oil prices went up, when in truth it was either some nonsense with Chavez, a refinery in Nigeria blew up, etc. There are SO many factors, it’s important, and quite frankly it’s pretty interesting, don’t you think?
Oiaf…You’re so smart!
Because most Americans never read history or look at at maps to see the Geo Political conflicts of History they have no grasp of how America could lose everything by losing our vital interests in the world.
People don’t understand what the United States Sphere of Influence really means.
When we say a country is in the US sphere of influence what we really mean is that they are set up in a pro western trade system with american oversight. This also means that their air space is US friendly or even protected by the US through their own air forces. It means that they have Satelite protection and are part of a greater force of protection from a consortium of allied nations.
Iraq was not part of the sphere of influence and that’s why we had no idea what Saddam was attempting to do. Now that we are in control of Iraq we need not worry about terrorists using Iraqi infrastructure to develop WMD’s and to gain power with petrol dollars.
Iraq is the brilliant strategy which will asloow America to stop the coming resource or Armageddon wars.
I started wondering the other day about the oil prices. I had read an article from February or so last year saying that we shouldn’t be surprised to see the price of oil manipulated higher toward the election along with a significant economic downturn that would be the result of machinations by the likes of Soros, et. al. - http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/02/george_soros_and_the_alchemy_o.html
Imagine my surprise to see it actually happen. It could be a coincidence, but it has me thinking. The other thing that has me thinking is that, in the past, every time the US seems to get serious about reducing our dependance of foreign oil (which that rise in the summer seemed to bring about) the price of oil falls to the point that all other choices become financially insupportable. Look at what’s happening in Alberta right now as a result of the fall in prices, or look at how quiet T. Boone got about wind for proof of it’s affect. We are being manipulated by many entities right now and it’s hard to pick out the real from the imagined. What do you think?
Sorry if I’m double posting, but i just posted a reply and can’t find it. Look at this article from February of 2008, predicting both the rise in oil prices and the economic downturn — I can’t get the link to work, so go to http://www.americanthinker.com and look for the article “George Soros and the alchemy of ‘Regime Change” from February 27, 2008 for some rather chilling predictions that, eerily, came true.
Also, if you look historically, every time the US gets semi-serious about reducing our dependance on foreign oil, the price magically goes below the level where any other option is viable — look at what’s happening in Alberta right now, or at how quiet T. Boone Pickens is on the wind idea if you need any exammples. What do you think?
heather…I tried to find that article but I couldn’t. Maybe I’m having a blonde/senior moment LOL.
Heather…Seems like a conspiracy doesn’t it
Actually when you speculate on oil and cause it to bubble as it did you shut off demand world wide. It’s my belief that world industrial demand will be off close to 30% for some time meaning far less oil.
I predicted this collapse last year as we have been through this cycle before.
What’s different this time is that alternatives have advanced incredibly since 1980.
It’s going to take government intervention to prevent the same conclusion that happened during the Reagan years. Obama’s talk of solar panels and alternatives despite the oil collapse is an area for which I can agree with him.
oiaf..
Gosh, You’re making me feel really old today and I haven’t even hit 50 yet.
Is it true that blonds have more fun?
Oh Mossy, it’s sooo true about blondes. I’m 46 and the fun never stops LOL. I refuse to grow up. So there!
You and me both!
I thought the polling recently done showed a close split, near 50/50 on approval of Israel’s actions. I could be wrong. And i forget where I heard that.
I’m not sure I would even find numbers credible anymore. I just feel that the leftie media has polluted people’s brains with Anti-Israel propaganda, lies and bias that they wouldn’t be able to vote accurately. Just like the people who voted for the Fraud because they didn’t know the truth.
I saw a poll where 61% of Republicans approve of Israel’s actions and somewhere around 30% of Democrats. I can’t figure that one out, since 70% of Jewish folks are Democrats…
Most Jews actually know something about the history of Palestine, is the biggest reason. Many had relatives who were active in the terrorist organization Haganah, for example. They know this issue is not black and white.
Andrew P
Please provide cites for what I believe to be fabrications.
Andrew P -
First: Jews make up a relatively small number of overall Dems.
Your fallacies in just one post:
Please provide your cite.
Really? How many Dem Jews does that apply to? Please cite.
Well said, Butch. Well said.
Thank you, Susan.
susan,what would you do if your next door neighbor was randomly taking shots at your house with a high powered rifle while you were inside and the local cops would not do a thing?would you try a start a conversation with a armed nutjob or would you defend yourself and try to end the threat by whatever it took.
I’d call 911 because, in this city, I KNOW the police would help me. (Btw, are you inferring that Gaza has no police force or U.S-type national guard forces with which to defend its residents?)
But, I see your point. I would strike back, but only if I could get a clear shot.
It would be tragic if I, a not-sophisticated user of firearms, were to start shooting wildly, and not only miss but hit the wrong people and/or animals.
ALSO: I would take into account if my shooting back would do nothing but inflame the situation, leading the neighbor to ramp up the # of shots he would be taking as well as ramp up the weaponry used. (I.e., sometimes it is better not to respond directly and immediately. Sometimes it’s better to wait and see what develops.)
(HERE, I’m thinking of dramatic situations that our U.S. police confront all the time but in which they choose NOT to fire back immediately and instead to try other forms of response.)
I’d also call all of my neighbors and ask them to help me defend my place. And I’d call any agencies that could help, if the police wouldn’t.
And I’d call all the media I could reach and tell them what’s happening to me.
Besides, in the U.S., if I fired back and hit the wrong person, I would be charged with a serious crime and could end up in prison for the rest of my life. Which is why it is always best to secure myself in the safest spot in my home, first, and then make phone calls and strategize.
I.e., I’d never pull out my gun and just begin shooting back. That’s unwise for a host of reasons.
Why is dialog always good in and of itself?
Why is dialog with Hamas necessarily a good thing?
What is the right side of this issue that the US should be on?
Who exactly are “israeli neocons”?
Butch Zero/Mort -
What is your definition of “Israeli neocons’?
You use that phrase so frequently that I wonder what you mean by it.
What do you think Israel can say or do that it hasn’t already tried
(and after so doing continued to be attacked by Palestine)
that will make a difference?
Why did Palestine intensify its attacks after Israel left Gaza?
Does that seem fair to you?
Is that the RIGHT thing to do?
Whatever one’s views on the matter, it certainly cannot be argued that Barack got anything but a free pass on this issue. I really thought BO would get hammered on this kind of thing (the bulletin as well) but instead, there was virtual silence.
I downloaded a copy of that bulletin from the church website some long months ago - it is now, I believe, “disappeared” from the tucc website.
Obama got a free pass because he still has his training wheels on.
We are behind the curve on this. It seems that the Israeli offensive in Gaza is successful beyond anyones hopes - entire Hamas battalions have been wiped out Hamas is crumbling as the Israelis are now performing “root canal” to eradicate the problem once and for all.
Who are the big losers? Well Iran and Hezbollah as they watch their surrogates in Hamas go down the drain. Nassralah has been effectively shut-up, and many Lebanese eyes now turn at him with the silent prayer “you’re next”. Ahmadinejad is facing a tough election with little to show except a weak hand. Hopefully, weak domestically means weak internationally as well leading him to the nuclear bargaining table.
Who are the big winners? First, the Palestinians. Have you noted that there is almost no blowback from Westbank Palestinians? For good reason. Wipe out Hamas politically and militarily and all of a sudden Abbas has the political muscle to negotiate a two-state solution, any “progressives” against that? (lol — I know, I know, it leaves the Zionists still firmly in control of Israel proper). Of course in the long run it actually means a better life for Gazans, and thus we can put aside all the “Warsaw Ghetto” analogies (sorry Larry, but you deserve a bit of a kick in the metaphorical ass for that). Second, the Israelis, who have rebuilt the military deterent that can instill fear. To quote some commenters in the Arab world, “The Jews have gone Crazy”. Good, don’t mess with the crazy guy. And finally maybe the biggest winner of them all - Barrack Obama who will get a settlement of the Palestine problem on his watch without having to do the heavy lifting, proving he is in fact the Messiah.
Califlefty -
I pray it is so.
Great post! Thanks so much!!
No Quarter has never been against the right of Israelis defending themselves. What L J has wrote about is the Lt. William Calley clones in the IDF.
What I can understand is some of the liberal blogs questioning Israel’s right to exist at all. When did this estrangement between the Jewish and Progressive community start? Remember it wasn’t three Muslim young men buried in that levee in Mississippi.
It’s like the “What have you done for me lately?” treatment meted out to the Clintons by the very groups they’ve helped.
Anyone knows what BHO position is regarding the Israeli-Palestinian war? Creation of Palestinian State? The status of Jerusalem?
I know the US Congress has a position. Support the State of Israel. The reason, Israeli’s interest is American National Security Interest. I will be hard press to see BHO tinkering with that policy. And as long as Hillary sits in the state department and sits in on the US National Security meetings, I sleep in peace at night.
A former Palestinian terrorist says the West continues to pursue a failed idea that somehow terrorism against Israel will stop when the Palestinians get their own homeland.
Walid Shoebat is a former member of the Palestine Liberation Organization and a convert to Christianity.
“historically, if you look from 1980 until 2003, let’s say — 224 suicide bombings out of 300 existed in Islamic countries with no occupation whatsoever”
but who were the suicide bombings targeting? western interests? other factions?….
Western interests.
The more reading I do on the subject of some of the black radical groups, Wright’s support of Hamas doesn’t surprise me at all, but someone should really check with Obama where he stands on this, not that he’ll be honest now that his position depends on looking moderate. There is a faction in the black community whose definition I still don’t clearly understand that oppose American military intervention on the grounds that it is somehow not respecting the “self-determination” of non-white peoples around the world, regardless of whether the incoming regime is truly awful or not. In fact, I found this archive of Obama mentor Frank Marshall Davis http://www.hawaii.edu/uhwo/clear/HonoluluRecord1/search.php?zoom_query=frank-ly&zoom_per_page=100&zoom_and=0&zoom_sort=0 where I thought I read he also had this view. Logic doesn’t work for them, it’s all about who is white and who isn’t. That simplistic take determines what side they fall on.
Let’s be clear: Robert Malley was smeared by the right wing, but he certainly didn’t deserve it.
http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_strange_case_of_robert_malley
I’ve read several sources lately that Obama is going to come out in support of Israel. This should be interesting.
H0w did you drive anyone crazy? You fucking lost. hee-hee.
bo wants to be all things to everyone
however i a conflict thats hard to do..