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		<title>By: JulieD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JulieD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew P - 

First:  Jews make up a relatively small number of overall Dems.

Your fallacies in just one post: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Most Jews actually know something about the history of Palestine, is the biggest reason.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Please provide your cite.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Many had relatives who were active in the terrorist organization Haganah, for example. &lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Really?  How many Dem Jews does that  apply to?  Please cite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew P &#8211; </p>
<p>First:  Jews make up a relatively small number of overall Dems.</p>
<p>Your fallacies in just one post: </p>
<blockquote><p>Most Jews actually know something about the history of Palestine, is the biggest reason.</p></blockquote>
<p>Please provide your cite.</p>
<blockquote><p>Many had relatives who were active in the terrorist organization Haganah, for example. </p></blockquote>
<p>Really?  How many Dem Jews does that  apply to?  Please cite.</p>
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		<title>By: JulieD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JulieD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew P

     Please provide cites for what I believe to be fabrications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew P</p>
<p>     Please provide cites for what I believe to be fabrications.</p>
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		<title>By: JulieD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JulieD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike you terrorist supporters...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike you terrorist supporters&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right about &quot;collective punishment.&quot; It has been categorized as a war crime for a long time. I think it&#039;s pretty clear from the tenor of their comments that the morally challenged among us understand exactly what it is, and support it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right about &#8220;collective punishment.&#8221; It has been categorized as a war crime for a long time. I think it&#8217;s pretty clear from the tenor of their comments that the morally challenged among us understand exactly what it is, and support it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most Jews actually know something about the history of Palestine, is the biggest reason. Many had relatives who were active in the terrorist organization Haganah, for example. They know this issue is not black and white.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most Jews actually know something about the history of Palestine, is the biggest reason. Many had relatives who were active in the terrorist organization Haganah, for example. They know this issue is not black and white.</p>
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		<title>By: truthtelling007</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthtelling007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t give you moral advice. I examined your words.  It was clear that you weren&#039;t open to advice that didn&#039;t pat you on the back some time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t give you moral advice. I examined your words.  It was clear that you weren&#8217;t open to advice that didn&#8217;t pat you on the back some time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: JulieD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JulieD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t need any moral advice from the likes of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t need any moral advice from the likes of you.</p>
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		<title>By: truthtelling007</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthtelling007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no, I said I agree with him that it was blowback. Blowback is the term used for the unintended consequences of actions.

Further I state, and you ignored, that his timing was callous, insensitive, and wrong. He said all that the following Sunday. How dare he.

You act like what he said was in a vacuum. I suggest you read Richard Clarke&#039;s book, Against All Enemies and look at the backdrop of the story.

I also feel that the people in WTC were innocent. I feel the people who were in the Pentagon were innocent.  But the policies we keep on with are interwoven in our results.  If you simply wish to ignore that fine.

And yes, there are innocent Palestinian and Israeli citizens who are being attacked on both sides in the battles between Hamas and the Israeli government.  How dare I acknowledge this...the shame.

Do you understand what &quot;collective punishment&quot; is? Because you and your ilk keep advocating actions towards the &quot;Palestinians&quot; as a group based on the actions of the militants. This by law is &quot;Collective Punishment&quot; and it is explicitly a War Crime. (Geneva Conventions Article 33) You make my case much easier every time you fail to make the distinction between Palestinian citizens and the radicals in Hamas or Hezbollah.

If you want to gloss over all that with simplifications, that is your problem. You simply confuse yourself.

And your opinion of me isn&#039;t my concern.  I think your simplifications are silly and &quot;despicable&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, I said I agree with him that it was blowback. Blowback is the term used for the unintended consequences of actions.</p>
<p>Further I state, and you ignored, that his timing was callous, insensitive, and wrong. He said all that the following Sunday. How dare he.</p>
<p>You act like what he said was in a vacuum. I suggest you read Richard Clarke&#8217;s book, Against All Enemies and look at the backdrop of the story.</p>
<p>I also feel that the people in WTC were innocent. I feel the people who were in the Pentagon were innocent.  But the policies we keep on with are interwoven in our results.  If you simply wish to ignore that fine.</p>
<p>And yes, there are innocent Palestinian and Israeli citizens who are being attacked on both sides in the battles between Hamas and the Israeli government.  How dare I acknowledge this&#8230;the shame.</p>
<p>Do you understand what &#8220;collective punishment&#8221; is? Because you and your ilk keep advocating actions towards the &#8220;Palestinians&#8221; as a group based on the actions of the militants. This by law is &#8220;Collective Punishment&#8221; and it is explicitly a War Crime. (Geneva Conventions Article 33) You make my case much easier every time you fail to make the distinction between Palestinian citizens and the radicals in Hamas or Hezbollah.</p>
<p>If you want to gloss over all that with simplifications, that is your problem. You simply confuse yourself.</p>
<p>And your opinion of me isn&#8217;t my concern.  I think your simplifications are silly and &#8220;despicable&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: foxyladi14</title>
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		<dc:creator>foxyladi14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bo wants to be all things to everyone
however i a conflict thats hard to do..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bo wants to be all things to everyone<br />
however i a conflict thats hard to do..</p>
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		<title>By: OBAMA IS A FRAUD</title>
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		<dc:creator>OBAMA IS A FRAUD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, Peggy Sue, that the worst part of it is us sitting here armchair quarterbacking it.  Really, I wouldn&#039;t let a Hamas POS near my DOG, much less tolerate them shooting rockets into my living room daily.  But I also think it&#039;s rather arrogant for people to think they can impose inappropriate, or non-sensical beliefs onto a situation that has been going on so long, and can&#039;t be worked out just because we use propaganda to queer perception of Israel.  The UN just called for a cease fire and BOTH sides, Israel and Hamas, basically said GFY.  Guess they don&#039;t want others telling them what to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, Peggy Sue, that the worst part of it is us sitting here armchair quarterbacking it.  Really, I wouldn&#8217;t let a Hamas POS near my DOG, much less tolerate them shooting rockets into my living room daily.  But I also think it&#8217;s rather arrogant for people to think they can impose inappropriate, or non-sensical beliefs onto a situation that has been going on so long, and can&#8217;t be worked out just because we use propaganda to queer perception of Israel.  The UN just called for a cease fire and BOTH sides, Israel and Hamas, basically said GFY.  Guess they don&#8217;t want others telling them what to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trust me, OIAF.  If someone shot my child, I&#039;d want to shoot right back.  But I&#039;d also want to make sure I shot the sucker who wounded my family. 

And, of course, it&#039;s easy to &quot;give advice&quot; from our cozy corner of the world. We all saw the reaction we had to 9/11.  I didn&#039;t hear a lot of voices for restraint then.

All I&#039;m saying is that if you beat your head against a brick wall and it doesn&#039;t move, maybe it&#039;s time to try something else.

But I would never suggest giving Hamas a pass.  They and all these other terrorist groups are an absolute menace.  The question being asked [if I have this right] is what is the best way to fight this sort of conflict and win, once and for all?

As for a resolution to stand by an ally?  It would be shameful for the United States to do anything less.  But we can still ask questions, even of our allies.  As they should be able to ask questions of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trust me, OIAF.  If someone shot my child, I&#8217;d want to shoot right back.  But I&#8217;d also want to make sure I shot the sucker who wounded my family. </p>
<p>And, of course, it&#8217;s easy to &#8220;give advice&#8221; from our cozy corner of the world. We all saw the reaction we had to 9/11.  I didn&#8217;t hear a lot of voices for restraint then.</p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying is that if you beat your head against a brick wall and it doesn&#8217;t move, maybe it&#8217;s time to try something else.</p>
<p>But I would never suggest giving Hamas a pass.  They and all these other terrorist groups are an absolute menace.  The question being asked [if I have this right] is what is the best way to fight this sort of conflict and win, once and for all?</p>
<p>As for a resolution to stand by an ally?  It would be shameful for the United States to do anything less.  But we can still ask questions, even of our allies.  As they should be able to ask questions of us.</p>
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		<title>By: HC</title>
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		<dc:creator>HC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>H0w did you drive anyone crazy? You fucking lost. hee-hee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H0w did you drive anyone crazy? You fucking lost. hee-hee.</p>
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		<title>By: Strawberrybitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strawberrybitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read several sources lately that Obama is going to come out in support of Israel.  This should be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read several sources lately that Obama is going to come out in support of Israel.  This should be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: OBAMA IS A FRAUD</title>
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		<dc:creator>OBAMA IS A FRAUD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peggy Sue,

I am trying to not have my blood boil over this stuff, but I really don&#039;t think people will understand until it happens to us and we have to defend ourselves. Perhaps, God forbid, when one of our children dies from a Hamas attack we will retaliate and really anyone who tells me HOW to retaliate can go f**k themselves.  I find it reprehensible to keep reading the nonsense about civilian casualties posted here.  It&#039;s propaganda and crap.  Quite simply, if they want to secure the rights and lives of civilians, they should put the rockets down, stop using human shields and firing from civilian edifices, and stop attacking Israel.  To blame Israel is, IMO, pathetic and why the left is losing so much credibility.  Like I said, it&#039;s sad that it will take happening to us before people &quot;get it.&quot;  But, then again, the left thinks George Bush created and instrumented 9/11.  God help us.

As for the above poster&#039;s comment that Congress passing the Resolution &quot;means nothing.&quot;  Well, to me it means we still know how to do the right thing and it&#039;s the appropriate statement.  Period.  I guess Congress only matters when it&#039;s doing things like voting on aborting live fetuses, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peggy Sue,</p>
<p>I am trying to not have my blood boil over this stuff, but I really don&#8217;t think people will understand until it happens to us and we have to defend ourselves. Perhaps, God forbid, when one of our children dies from a Hamas attack we will retaliate and really anyone who tells me HOW to retaliate can go f**k themselves.  I find it reprehensible to keep reading the nonsense about civilian casualties posted here.  It&#8217;s propaganda and crap.  Quite simply, if they want to secure the rights and lives of civilians, they should put the rockets down, stop using human shields and firing from civilian edifices, and stop attacking Israel.  To blame Israel is, IMO, pathetic and why the left is losing so much credibility.  Like I said, it&#8217;s sad that it will take happening to us before people &#8220;get it.&#8221;  But, then again, the left thinks George Bush created and instrumented 9/11.  God help us.</p>
<p>As for the above poster&#8217;s comment that Congress passing the Resolution &#8220;means nothing.&#8221;  Well, to me it means we still know how to do the right thing and it&#8217;s the appropriate statement.  Period.  I guess Congress only matters when it&#8217;s doing things like voting on aborting live fetuses, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: mountainaires</title>
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		<dc:creator>mountainaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s be clear: &lt;strong&gt;Robert Malley &lt;/strong&gt;was smeared by the right wing, but he certainly didn&#039;t deserve it. 

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_strange_case_of_robert_malley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be clear: <strong>Robert Malley </strong>was smeared by the right wing, but he certainly didn&#8217;t deserve it. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_strange_case_of_robert_malley" rel="nofollow">http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_strange_case_of_robert_malley</a></p>
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