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Confirmation Hearing Open Thread #1

THIS THREAD is closing. Please move to the thread above. BTW: The television coverage is on C-Span2 but the Washington Post has a live feed as does C-Span.

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Watch or listen to the hearings live via C-Span.

Athough C-Span indicates the hearing begins at 10 a.m., the official U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing announcement states that the hearing begins at 9:30 a.m. ET.

Surely, before the hearing begins, there will be gaggles of talking heads on all the cable news shows. DO report what you hear in the comments below. And share any news reports you read.

And, below the fold is the official U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing statement:
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Comment by andrew191 | 2009-01-13 03:33:40

Absolutely nothing controversial or questionable in her past. SHE’S A SHOE IN !!!!!

Kerry presiding? HOPE, CHANGE, and YES WE CAN, it’s all here baby, the democrat party is proudly waving the NEW POSITION banner. “New position” that is regarding how they’ll sodomize this country.

Comment by CG | 2009-01-13 06:01:08

The sodomizing, the raping, the pillaging, the non-stop assault, and destruction of America and the world lies 100% in the hands of Dubya and Dick over the last 8 years, and unfortunately that paved the way for the Obama presidency. Mission Accomplished, America on the Verge of Self-Inflicted Annihilation! Dubya pissed away everything and spit in our faces, leaving the worst financial and moral debts my grandchildren and their children are forced to pay, while it will be at least four years more of job losses and the savings of hard-working, decent people have been flushed down the drain. Dubya’s arrogance and incompetence is incomparable, and he alone brought our country down near bottom; and the blood, the suffering and despair of millions is on his hands. Perdition a la Dubya. I have no love for Obama, but it seems impossible for Obama to be a worse steward of America than Dubya.

Comment by Barium | 2009-01-13 10:18:52

Thank you, well said.

 
 

Comment by Bugs Bunny | 2009-01-13 07:58:20

Dubya and Dick got the HAM, and we got the BONE.

 

Comment by Shainzona | 2009-01-13 10:51:51

Kerry can’t spell, either. One Hundred and “Evelenth”????

 
 

Comment by ford | 2009-01-13 08:38:38

CG there is that disturbing cliche about “The devil that you know.”
I personally have never been lucky when I think things cannot get worse. Smite.

Comment by CG | 2009-01-13 09:35:06

You mean better the devil you know than the devil you don’t? I personally have never been lucky when I think things cannot get worse also, definitely I can relate. The risk with Obama is a big unknown, and things could get worse. But I’m just saying the last 8 years have been no cake walk, and the implication of andrew191’s comment is only now are we going to get sodomized. I liked where our nation was 8 years ago. We freakin’ didn’t even catch Osama after all the lives lost, people wounded and treasury vanished. And thanks to Dubya we got Obama. Sorry for the rant.

 
 

Comment by BernieO | 2009-01-13 08:39:24

Whatever you do DO NOT WATCH THE HEARINGS ON MSNBC. They chose uber Clinton-hater Chris Matthewsto do the broadcast!
How much more insulting can the CDS sufferes at NBC get? Maybe they are hoping he’ll say the the men at the State Department are now in danger of becoming eunuchs like he did during the primaries. Or that he’ll ask Tucker Carlson to help so we can watch him sit there with his legs crossed.

I am going to email NBC and complain. I urge the rest of you to do the same.

Comment by Mary | 2009-01-13 09:44:43

I don’t watch MSNBC for anything, anymore. Yuk. Barf.

But anything important??? Watch C-Span.

The only place you actually get BOTH sides, and respectfully.

Comment by I'm a Linda too | 2009-01-13 10:21:59

same here. I don’t even click on video links that go to their site.

MSNBC
Male Sexist Network Broadcating Corp

 
 
 

Comment by Sassy | 2009-01-13 09:18:56

Thanks for the reminder Susan, I’ll be able to watch part of it.
My political atmosphere is so strange now.
I watched part of President Bush’s news conference…first time I have given him the title…my short-coming, not his.
I am surrounded by Republicans…silence, not one “yellow dog” jab.
Hillary will not be inaugurated…at my age it’s probably my last chance to see a woman gain the Presidency.
Numerous Republicans, starting with McCain have called Obama “their President”…I haven’t.
Is this the calm before the storm?
I feel a sobbing melt-down coming on!

 

Comment by tek | 2009-01-13 09:23:42

Susan, thanks for running this thread.

 

Comment by I'm a Linda too | 2009-01-13 09:32:10

Uh oh, CAUTION, another drinking game being born. And this may be the only way we can handle the next 4 years of an O-shit! administration.

We are learning that Axelrod and crew are disseminating talking points, much like Karl Rove did. You know, the political puppeteer having a key role in the administration to continue the disguise of marketing.

Axelrod and crew have bee descending on Congress to give them their instructions and NEW words and phrases to use. Now talk about “recovery” instead of recession. You know, stuff like that.

Well, today highlights the new word. This administration is going to be attaching SMART to their actions to try to make the ignorant American voter think they are doing something different. I KID YOU NOT.

You know, like a Supervisor who is over their head on a job, you know what their latest Supervisor Meeting was, because they come out using the words and phrases nonstop. lol Well, todays word is SMART. They can’t find new words to go with stimulus or power or things like that, so they are adding the word SMART in front of it.

We heard in the news reports yesterday that Hillary will be talking about SMART power, as opposed to the dumb power of the previous administration, apparently (oh goddess how we hate these folks from having to use such shallow instruction and talking points handed down from the narcissist). And today we heard their new stimulus plan for RECOVERY would be SMART planning. Well, thank goddess, because we wouldn’t want the typical political planning we’ve been seeing, because we know that is dumb. But, as we know, slapping a name on it doesn’t make it so and O is just following the Dubya path for his administration, like Bush’s early CLEAR SKIES INITIATIVE that was pumping more mercury in the air. But, we can have many laughs and a great drinking game on the horizon.

All we have to do is identify the new word of the week coming out from the O-shit! adminstration. Who ever identifies the word gets the first SHOT, and it’s a double. Then one each from there.

SMART.….GOOOOOO

Comment by Gary McGowan | 2009-01-13 11:04:58

I wonder if it could help to identify “the talking point/word of the day” and then bust them for it around the ‘net… “Just how dumb do you think we are?” kind of comments at MSM comments following stories, etc.

Just a thought.

Comment by I'm a Linda too | 2009-01-13 11:22:25

yes, that would be a job. Point out what the media seems incapable of doing.

 
 
 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 09:35:22

Well it’s starting! Senator Clinton looks great!!

 

Comment by candymarl | 2009-01-13 09:37:56

Kerry’s yapping away. Sigh.

Comment by BernieO | 2009-01-13 09:44:11

Zzzzzzzzz. But he did give a shout-out to Claiborne Pell. What is it with Dems that they don’t celebrate accomplishments like his Pell Grants? They should have had a press conference when he died with a bunch of successful people who went to college because of those grants. Republicans would never let this kind of opportunity pass. If Obama is going to use talking points, the least he could do is use them to tout the past accomplishments of his party (instead of dissing them). No wonder polls show the public agrees with the Democratic Party on most issues, but does not like the party.

 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 09:44:30

I know. I know. What gets me is that EVERYONE wants to know what HRC will do, and when it sounds good they tack on (its obama’s policy) knowing good and well what the real deal is. She looks so presidential! Look at her… *sigh* Well if you can see her past Kerry running off at the mouth

Comment by BernieO | 2009-01-13 09:46:50

She looks kind of tired – all that work getting prepared and awareness of the chanlenges we face. Obama looks pretty rested on the other hand.

Comment by Michele | 2009-01-13 09:54:09

I thought she looked tired too. Reminds me of when Obama was taking time off to vacation in Hawaii and she was out campaigning for him. And I believe Obama had another vacation earlier on. I just kept thinking that after Hillary was forced to drop out, that she should take some time off to relax and recoup.

Comment by Gary McGowan | 2009-01-13 11:08:21

Abe Lincoln used to look tired a lot.

 
 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 09:55:21

Yep. You are correct. But listen to what they are wanting her to address. Maybe it’s just me but shouldnt some of this come from the PEBO? They are making comments about * looking forward to working with the PEBO and “cant waite to work with the PEBO”*

But Lugar is bringing up some things that doesnt cover the SOS position but he states he wants to know where she stands on what they will do.

Maybe I need to look up the position for SOS duties because I am now getting confused.

Comment by AF catfish | 2009-01-13 10:17:40

Look at the questions the NYT OpEd page drew up for her. It’s like an open admission they’d never ask PEBO these questions for fear of how insipid his answers would be.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Jackarooty | 2009-01-13 09:54:51

He was very gracious to HRC. It must be the Botox. He looks very “smooth” today.

 
 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 09:49:07

I wonder how much of what she will say today will end up being *PEBO* talking points on his policy! You betcha!

 

Comment by BernieO | 2009-01-13 09:50:38

Lugar just mentioned how this committee has held more hearings in the past few years than any other. Wouldn’t it have been hilarious if he had added “many of which our new President missed or showed up late for.”

 

Comment by Screw-The-DNC | 2009-01-13 09:53:13

OT – Sorry!

NQ is within 34 votes of 2nd place for the weblog awards! I just voted for the last time, so please go add your vote NOW!!

Don’t forget to vote for Uppity Woman too!

 

Comment by candymarl | 2009-01-13 09:53:41

Let the excitement begin. More speechifying.

 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 10:00:11

I am so confused. Lugar states foreign donations to the Clinton foundation could (possibly)cause problems for the U.S. So why does this not apply to the PEBO getting donations from third world countries? Everyone knows about the contributions and everyone ignored it but now they are highlighting what they want the SOS to do about foreign contributions.

God it just feels so dirty that they have no problems with people giving them to the PEBO

Comment by BernieO | 2009-01-13 10:02:25

There was no concern about Bush I getting money from giving speeches for foreigners like Rev. Moon. And that was money that was usually personal income. The Clinton Rules are still in full force.

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 10:10:48

Yep. Schumer is straight hyping HRC! I luvs it!

 

Comment by Mary | 2009-01-13 10:53:25

I agree, Bernie.

If there’s ANY past president whose library and investments should be checked for “influence” from foreign entities, it is George Herbert Walker Bush, AND all of his now-and-forever rejected sons.

The double standard is just astounding.

 
 
 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 10:04:47

Man they are straight fluffing Kerry. What is up with that. Anyway, good gracious the financial crisis is part of the SOS duties? Come on maybe I am just not knowledgeable but I never heard anyone ask Condi about the economy!

 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 10:08:20

YEAH President Secretary of State Hillary Clinton!

Comment by jbjd | 2009-01-13 12:20:21

I love this. HRC is PSoS. Wonderful that is, if it wasn’t so tragic.

 
 

Comment by truthorconsequences | 2009-01-13 10:10:01

Confirmation of another socialist. Nothing to see here.

Comment by Gary McGowan | 2009-01-13 11:16:36

Personally, Id like for more people to learn to see through the “capitalist-socialist” mind trap. Try “American System” (wikipedia not recommended.)

 
 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 10:12:56

blah blah blah. Nothing to see here, just someone else with CDS.

 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 10:15:06

WE have been waiting on this.

Comment by jbjd | 2009-01-13 12:21:39

She, the people.

 
 

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2009-01-13 10:16:42

Well, this is rich. Schumer is singing HRC’s foreign relations acumen, all the points so roundly dismissed and dissed during the primary–Ireland, Bosnia, Rawanda, etc., etc.

Incredible. And sad.

Hillary is speaking now. On the mark, as always.

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 10:18:30

Yes she is. On point. I like how she tacks on the *the president elect and I*

 

Comment by AF catfish | 2009-01-13 10:19:44

Yeah it was good, like in your face! She DID visit those countries HAH! PEBO took his first trip to Europe this summer.

 
 

Comment by Katmoon | 2009-01-13 10:19:50

Such an intelligent person; however I agree she looks a little tired;people who work for a living tend to have that happen.

Comment by Barium | 2009-01-13 10:30:21

GMA was showing a retrospective of Hillary highlights, starting with Bill’s presidency.

At that time, I didn’t really notice, I suppose I was listening to her ideas, but she really is beautiful.

And sometimes, I wonder if someone beautiful and brilliant, talented enough to meet goals within the international arena while NOT pandering, is penalized for those very traits — esp a woman.

Resentment, maybe?

And what was Bill doing with those hideous bimbos?

Comment by Diana L. C. | 2009-01-13 11:54:25

There is a Chinese saying, but I can’t find it now, about how being beautiful AND intelligent is a curse.

I ALWAYS thought she should have been President instead of Bill.

Comment by oowawa | 2009-01-13 12:02:43

There is a Chinese saying, but I can’t find it now, about how being beautiful AND intelligent is a curse.

Indeed, Diana. I have to think of Benazir Bhutto in connection to this. And she almost succeeded in rising above the stereotypes. But certain factions would not permit it.

 
 
 
 

Comment by SJ | 2009-01-13 10:26:37

Looking and listening to Hillary I really wonder if the American people really understand what they have done in helping Oman become President and casting Hillary aside.

Here she if after being tossed aside like a rag, she has to once again step up to the plate and give some credibility to this administration, and am sure once again she will not be appreciated for this, it is really sad.

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 10:39:54

You are 100 percent correct and it took a while to get over it myself. This just shows, clearly, blatantly, and glaringly the differences as well as the truth. I can’t waite for the day when the best person for a job does not depend on manufactured *excitement*, race, gender, or how well you excite the masses with rhetoric.

It’s sad that everything she states will be played out as *Obama’s policy* and whether or not she is a *team player*. There is only one team to be on no matter what political party you are on. I never heard this story about Obama’s mother work in Indonesia Senator Clinton is now talking about.

Comment by Kal | 2009-01-13 12:24:15

… not over it yet

not gonna be

BO is a trainwreck, a mindfuck, and the worst thing to happen to women, progressives, liberalism, democracy, … ever ….

 
 

Comment by CamdenRave | 2009-01-13 10:41:17

Hillary was not “tossed aside like a rag”. She and her husband had major roles at the convention and she was selected to be Secretary of State.

Comment by Mary | 2009-01-13 10:55:17

Rewriting history , again.

You sound like Dubya.

 

Comment by Sandi78 | 2009-01-13 11:40:32

That was after she won the most votes,and they tossed her aside like a rag.

 
 
 

Comment by candymarl | 2009-01-13 10:33:04

This hearing reminds me of a poem I read along time ago.

“For all sad words of tongue or pen
The saddest are these: ‘It might have been’”

I hear those words when I look at HRC.

Comment by Barium | 2009-01-13 10:40:29

I hear , from the Nick Lowe song, “So It Goes:”

In the tall buildings
sit the head of our nations
Worthy men from Sapin and Siam
Al1 day discussions with the Russians
But they still went ahead
and vetoed the plan
Now up jumped the U.S. representative
He’s the one with the tired eyes
747 but him in that condition
Flyin’ back from a peace keepin’ mission

 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 10:43:46

candymarl
I am trying to be happy but it is hard. Not because of just what could of been. But the fact that if qualified women and men begin to not get positions based on the court of public opinion hyped by the MSM. We will never change or have progress, well true progress.

Comment by Barium | 2009-01-13 10:53:20

A lot of us thought this election was fixed, neither Clinton NOR McCain having a genuine shot at the Presidency.

And it was interesting, yesterday, the man Larry quoted in his essay, a former covert CIA agent, admitted to fixing elections in other countires –obviously, it can be done.

Even here, I bet.

But at least we’re talking about it, so that, to me, anyway, is a good sign.

 

Comment by candymarl | 2009-01-13 11:19:05

I hear ya Soldier4H. But I’m willing to suck it up and go on. Like you, I don’t Obama to fail because the country goes down with him.

Obama will be inaugurated. There will be dancing in the streets. This is America and so these are good things.

But the price of liberty is vigilance. Let’s not give our government a free pass because our chosen party (or not) is in power.

We’ve seen what years of one party control with no one to say -STOP!- can bring.

Do I wish Hillary was POTUS elect? Yes. But ya gotta go with what you’ve got not what you wish you had.

Americans are inherent optimists. We survived GWB. We can survive this.

 
 
 

Comment by CG | 2009-01-13 10:38:48

She’s brilliant.

 

Comment by Mandelay | 2009-01-13 10:42:18

Brava, Hillary! Smartest person in that room and, possibly, in that city. She shines. Anyone watching and listening cannot help but see that Hillary Clinton, and others like her, are the real treasure of the United States. Her introductory remarks are showing knowledge of every spot on the globe. Solid stuff. Brava!

 

Comment by SJ | 2009-01-13 10:42:42

Geez they are going to Ann Dunham work in Micro Finance, now that is a new one am hearing from Hillary, Obama’s mother was a finance wiz??

I always love to hear Hillary but when she goes off on this butt licking of Obama I can never understand it, it is as if she does not really understand her own worth and feels she needs this dam loser as a crutch for support.

My god Hillary you are better than that woman, you are more important to this country than 10 Obama’s time to understand that and stand up geez.

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 10:48:56

Wow! We learned more about Obama’s mother from Senator Clinton than from Obama himself. Why wouldnt he want to talk on his mothers accomplishments? I don’t get this. Anyway, now they are asking questions..

Comment by HARP | 2009-01-13 10:55:29

Strange how they have to mention other peoples accomplishments and not his. His whole life is about riding someone else’s coattails.

Comment by candymarl | 2009-01-13 11:29:05

Good point HARP. No one, not even Obama’s most ardent supporters, can point to any major accomplishments.

After all, there have been many community organizers and constitutional scholars. Usually there’s published papers, actual community revitalization, etc. that someone can talk about.

Notice Hillary mentioned “tutelage” when talking about Obama. Proof that it takes more than hope and change to accomplish things. It takes experience and knowledge. Especially when times are tough.

Comment by SJ | 2009-01-13 11:34:46

Of course to the trolls Obama accomplished something he is black and he is POTUS, imagine that? I guess he won because only the black vote counted.

Now what I would love to see is an abundance of progress in the black communities, no more school drop outs, no more gang wars, drugs, no more black men filling the jails things like that.

Since a black man can become President all blacks not should strive to improve themselves, work and educated their kids so they too can achieve what Obama did, that should be their goal, not to stand and boast of Obama’s accomplishments go make some of your own.

 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 11:45:14

You are correct on that one. What we need right now transcinds so many things. Look at Ohio. They are out of money for unemployment funds. The magnitude of the fact that they can’t get unemployment checks is disturbing. Horrifyning really. We are bailing out Wall Street and the people on main street are suffering. Matter of fact, maybe the bots can tell people how to sign up for there jobs. People are suffering horribly and want answers on what the new incoming administration will do. People are broke and suffering, were fighting two wars, losing jobs, & homes….Hell I have to move back into the barracks because I am helping my aunt out with there mortage payments. I dont HAVE to but I am to help out until they are back on there feet. I am making hellish sacrifices and to complain about it changes absolutely nothing so I am very interested in what is happening and want to know about the incoming administrations views on Iraq & Afghanistan. *Hope and Change* does not accomplish jack shit.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by HARP | 2009-01-13 10:43:58

Like I`ve said before…….If Hillary succeeds, Obama will take all the credit……If shit happens, Hillary will take all the blame……Bank on it.

Comment by Anthony | 2009-01-13 10:50:50

Inclined to agree with you, but never underestimate the fury of a Clinton scorned (or supporters either, for that matter)

If worse comes to worst, I bet there’s more than a few tasty little morsels that the Clintons wouldn’t mind feeding to the press

 
 

Comment by jangles | 2009-01-13 10:45:06

HRC will move forward to be one of the great SOS of all time. And she will win the approval of the world, ultimately she will be appointed to Sec. General of the UN where she will bring about a new era of world peace and prosperity.

I think that the global economy and foreign relations ARE entwined. No one asked Condi because no one has been asking Condi anything for the last year and a half.

 

Comment by IndyRobin | 2009-01-13 10:47:13

We are watching the person who should be POTUS. It still hurts like Hell.

Hillary has just honored Obamas mother. How lovely
and this is why I love her so much. She refuses to allow bitterness or defeat to control or decide her rightful place in American history.

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2009-01-13 11:21:09

Yes, it surely does, Indy Robin. She is an amazing woman. To think that the DNC worked SO hard to steal the nomination away from this incredibly qualified woman, the one all of the (male) senators are now claiming is so experienced in foreign affairs, so hard working (unlike Obama who could just not be bothered with committee meetings), who has such good relationships with people on both sides of the aisle, is just distressing. It says a whole lot abt THEM, to be sure, but also how capable she really is.

And jangles, I hadn’t thought abt the UN position…

 
 

Comment by kissy | 2009-01-13 10:51:32

DONT U FAKE DEMOCRATS EVER DO ANYTHING BUT COME IN HERE TO COMPLAIN LOL JEEZ OBAMA IS YOUR NEXT PRESIDENT FOR THE NEXT 8 YRS SHOW SOME DANG RESPECT AND DEAL WITH IT

Comment by SJ | 2009-01-13 10:54:57

Ok we will give Obama just as much respect as you all were willing to give Bush

 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 10:57:12

Who is complaining? Obama is the next president, not god. Do you people believe no one should question him or his administration? Yes, I respect the position, but last time I checked he has yet to take office. Now I understand it goes against Obama supporters belief to even have the audacity to question anything he states but sadly those of us in the real world understand we will have a president and not a messiah.

Also, I thought the presidential term was 4 years? Or are we not having a election in 2012.

 

Comment by Mary | 2009-01-13 10:57:47

Stop screaming, kissy. It’s incredibly rude.

 

Comment by dhelz | 2009-01-13 10:59:20

huh! did you forget to take your meds this morning?

My President is speaking right now. Deal with it.

 

Comment by candymarl | 2009-01-13 11:38:41

Pointing out facts is now disrespectful.
I was probably a Democrat before you were born considering your juvenile comment.

 

Comment by bemused | 2009-01-13 11:46:28

You can be sure he will get all the respect from me that he deserves. I will gladly donate my tax dollars to maintaining him in the lifestyle he has earned, whether it’s at Leavenworth or SuperMax.

 

Comment by mimi | 2009-01-13 11:48:35

 
 

Comment by CamdenRave | 2009-01-13 10:52:41

Wow, Hillbots are out in force today. You know, she’s just a person. She’s not a goddess.

Comment by Barium | 2009-01-13 10:56:17

She just said “specificity,” clearly and articulately.

So she just beat your DUMB ass, huh?

ROTFLMAO

 

Comment by candymarl | 2009-01-13 11:42:47

She’s being admired as being smart, capable, and experienced. What’s wrong with that?

Will she and has she made mistakes? Of course. We recognize she’s human and not some iconic figure “we have been waiting for”.

No one here has referred to her as a goddess. Except for you, of course.

Comment by candymarl | 2009-01-13 11:45:21

You might want to note that it’s Obama, not Hillary, that’s being referred to as a Messiah and Jesus returned.

 
 
 

Comment by kissy | 2009-01-13 10:54:10

OBAMA IS THE BEST THING FOR AMERICA

Comment by HARP | 2009-01-13 10:57:26

You will be late for school.

Comment by candymarl | 2009-01-13 11:51:03

 
 

Comment by stodgie | 2009-01-13 12:14:40

kissy, words can’t express my response here except wth!

 
 

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2009-01-13 10:54:14

Hillary is making an absolutely brilliant presentation. She’s making the committee membership look small in comparison.

As much as I regret what happened during the primary, listening to HRC, knowing that she will have input gives me a reason to hope. She sounds great but she does look tired. I noticed the “smart” buzz word popping up–smart diplomacy, smart power, etc.

Comment by Barium | 2009-01-13 11:05:54

I agree, but I think they have a lot of HARD, really HARD work ahead of them.

The idea women, or even men, should have to look perfect at all times runs counter to the reality of the hard work she, and the US, are facing — it’s 24/7, dealing with some of the biggest MORONS on the planet.

I want to know she can do the job, I don’t want another plastic barbie and ken doll mouthing the words of Jon Feavaroo, while the other stupid people applaud obdurate mediocrity as brilliance.

They are wholly unable to solve the probelms we are facing, as a nation.

This is real, and for there to be progress, it needs to be seen as real.

Troll, do you have input here, any ideas?

NO, he doesn’t.

See the problem?

 

Comment by Mandelay | 2009-01-13 11:39:56

I think you nailed it regarding how “small” the committee looks in comparison, especially Kerry. But they have a lot of power down the road and the “kissy kissy” stuff is necessary. I really admire Hillary’s efforts to not only point out the Bush administrations failures (in a a very diplomatic language) but to also point out the success, particularly in Africa. She continues to reach out to both sides and remain bi-partisan, not only with regard to Dems and Repubs, but also bi-partisan within her own party which at times has treated Clinton supporters as outcasts of the Democratic Party. She is an astonishingly classy act at all times while maintaining clarity and also getting very specific on hot button issues. I hope she runs again in 2012. I know that sounds crazy at this stage of the game, but I still have hopes that one day in the not too distant future, she will be President of the United States. No other public figure, including JFK (he was killed when I was 12) has impressed me as much as Hillary Clinton.

Comment by drmilak | 2009-01-13 12:05:46

Mandelay, I agree with you. However, I think that 2016 will be the year we elect the first female POTUS – HRC. 2012 sounds completely impossible.

I wanted to also say that I have also almost started thinking that it is a good thing BO and not HRC got elected. He has so much good will and he is going to need it. They would have destroyed HRC from day one, I jsut shudder at the thought. Unfortunately, noone awarded HRC with ANY goodwill, and she outshone and outshines EVERYONE! Maybe 2016 will be the year. I sure hope so!

Then I will be watching and crying with pride. Until then, I am a cautious Hillaryite optimist.

 
 

Comment by felizarte | 2009-01-13 12:21:38

Hillary’s intelligence, preparation, poise and wisdom is breathtaking. Imagine how quickly and intelligently she could inspire and lead the economic recovery! In the end, they will all have to look to her for answers. She will have the inimitable authority of true knowledge. Obama cannot afford not to have her to lean on.

 
 

Comment by PYW | 2009-01-13 10:55:15

Gee, supporters of Hillary on a pro-Hillary Web site? Wow, how unusual …

Comment by Mary | 2009-01-13 10:59:39

Are you suggesting the mighty Obama made a bad choice?

Goodness, what an insult to The One.

Gotcha.

 
 

Comment by PYW | 2009-01-13 10:58:49

kissy, Nice to see you know Obama’s going to win re-election in four years. Are you holding a crystal ball in your lap, lol?

 

Comment by kissy | 2009-01-13 10:59:34

RESPECT UR NEW PRESIDENT LOL

Comment by oowawa | 2009-01-13 11:01:38

 

Comment by Mary | 2009-01-13 11:06:03

Your schoolbus has arrived.

Run along, now.

 

Comment by Diana L. C. | 2009-01-13 11:11:47

Go away! You bother me.

 

Comment by bemused | 2009-01-13 12:30:37

Is that you, Freedumb Fighter? We’ve missed you.

 
 

Comment by PYW | 2009-01-13 11:01:53

I certainly respect his choice to be SoS! He couldn’t have made a better one.

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2009-01-13 11:05:56

I agree, PYW.

 
 

Comment by kissy | 2009-01-13 11:03:18

SOME OF U DIDENT EVEN VOTE FOR OBAMA BUT GUESS WHAT HE STILL WON LOL 369 TO 179 LOL DANG

Comment by HARP | 2009-01-13 11:05:39

I have been thinking that I would make a proposition to my Obot friends… that if they will stop telling lies about Hillary, we will stop telling the truth about Obama.

 

Comment by SJ | 2009-01-13 11:06:02

Yep he won but now he has to govern and its not going to be as easy as winning an election, this is where they work starts, also this is where the mistakes happen to, for you sake I hope your bubble does not pop too soon

 

Comment by Barium | 2009-01-13 11:08:25

Hm.

Alinsky?

AGAIN?

No one is arguing this point.

I wonder if some world diplomates are as stupid as trolls?

See, we too can be SOS for a day…

 

Comment by Diana L. C. | 2009-01-13 12:00:08

Got that one right! I DID NOT vote for Obama, and I am proud of that.

 
 

Comment by kissy | 2009-01-13 11:06:12

HE SHOULD OF MADE HILLARY AMBASSADOR 2 THE BAHAMAS OR SOMETHING LOL

Comment by HARP | 2009-01-13 11:07:29

You need to study grammar more.

Comment by Barium | 2009-01-13 11:12:13

Tell Axlerod to send “a SMART troll,” America demands more!

Actually, an infusion of about 100 IQ points wouldn’t hurt, either.

Funny if it turns out he’s an ivy league grad.

Or directed by one.

ROTFLMAO.

In search of a more intelligent troll, someone send a memo, “a SMART troll,” “a power troll.”

 
 

Comment by Mary | 2009-01-13 11:08:38

That’s “should have,” not “should of.”

And the word above is spelled “didn’t,” not “dident.”

Get some education, kissy, and you’ll have more credibility.

 

Comment by I'm a Linda too | 2009-01-13 11:19:52

Does O-shit even know where the Bahamas are?

 
 

Comment by kissy | 2009-01-13 11:10:59

HILLARY GOT MORE BAGS UNDER HER EYE THAN A AIRPORT TERMINAL

Comment by SJ | 2009-01-13 11:14:44

Amazing and to think this was Obama pick for SOS, here we have a die hard Obama supporter knocking the great ones choice, do we have some cracks beginning to show???

Are they no longer in love with Obee? what is going on lol

Comment by Mary | 2009-01-13 11:25:53

One would laugh at her, given that she’s trashing the mighty Obama’s “judgement,” but she’s too inarticulate and uneducated to even understand she’s being laughed at.

And that’s the irony. She doesn’t even KNOW she’s uneducated and inarticulate.

Chicago public schools, proably. William Ayers taught her self-esteem, but not how to spell or write a sentence.

Would YOU hire her?

LOL

 
 

Comment by lorac | 2009-01-13 11:24:20

You have more spelling and grammatical mistakes than a 2nd grader. And what adult says “dang”? I agree with the others; not only are you going to miss the school bus, you’ve missed it many, many times before. Typical, ignorant Obama supporter. Go play and let the grown-ups talk.

 

Comment by IndyRobin | 2009-01-13 11:25:12

I’m calling your therapist Kissy… Lol. For you to come here for the sole purpose of creating conflict and chaos tells me you medication needs to be increased.
A healthy integrated person does not slink on to sites just to metaphorically take a stick and poke people into a negative reaction. Its very passive aggressive behavior. Perhaps you should seek out a peer group that will increase your self esteem.

Comment by lorac | 2009-01-13 11:37:13

Go Indy! (nice to see you!)

Comment by IndyRobin | 2009-01-13 11:48:22

Hey … great to see you too. Whatever happened to all the TM defectors? I tried BP but could never sign on.

Comment by lorac | 2009-01-13 12:36:26

BP went private, but there should be a link on the front page to write to camille to join. TM gets about 15 comments per post now, since she switched to Obama! But I see people around the net – here, Confluence, etc.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by unclekracker | 2009-01-13 11:15:37

Part of her opening speech was particularly powerful:

http://big-daddy-sweet-baby-cheesecakes.blogspot.com/2009/01/suck-it-ms-magazine.html

…a clear reminder of her speech in Beijing in 1995.

 

Comment by jjsmoof | 2009-01-13 11:15:40

why are we feeding the trolls? They slink off to their cheeto bag if you ignore them. teehee

Comment by Barium | 2009-01-13 11:18:56

So we can refer to them as stupid while mocking Feavaroo and Axelrod.

 
 

Comment by oowawa | 2009-01-13 11:15:56

It’s getting harder and harder to find articulate trolls nowadays.

Comment by lorac | 2009-01-13 11:27:36

S/he is probably the result of Chicago schools. I don’t think most even graduate there (seriously).

 
 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 11:18:41

Amazing. Hillary is not a Goddess? Are you serious? No one thinks that. Where would anyone get that idea because we sure ain’t projecting that image. Hillbots? Get real. This is not 2008. No one wants to hear you delusional people with CDS. The truth of the matter is this CDS Bots. President Elect Obama is our next president. He has zero experience, he is not the next messiah, god or ancient diety to worship.

It took him 2 billion dollars to win this election. Some came from countries I have deployed to and it boggles the mind anyone there would have that kind of money to donate when the people live in damn near huts. Mickey Mouse, XYGT, and other fictional characters managed to donate in this election while we listen to the MSM fluff Obama daily.

He makes fly by decisions without thinking anything through to please the left and pander to the right. His foreign policy creditials were earned by a cliff note tour overseas with a major speech in another country. His national security policy resides with him having a name that according to Chris Matthews is putting fear in the minds of al Qaeda.

We dont know where he stands policy wise on Israel, Gaza, Iraq, Afghanistan or just about anything. No, terrorists will not lay down arms on the 21st because we have a historical presidential candidate.

So pardon the hell out of me for being remotely interested and excited to hear someone actually talk and exhibit knowledge on what is happening around the world while on blackout. You think they are doing rock drills today at the Whitehouse on what to do in case terrorists attack seven cities simutaneously for shits and giggles?

God, some of these bots are like ticks that just suck the life, common sense and alternate views on reality right out of you.

 

Comment by Diana L. C. | 2009-01-13 11:19:50

I am sorry. I have been unable to watch politics on television for some time now, so I didn’t watch.

After the election, I began having flashbacks of the 18 years I spent with a highly controlling/narcissistic man and his three daughters, whose behavior mimicked his and their schizophrenic mother. Somehow, this fixing of elections reminded me of all that I had experienced then.

But, I did catch this quote from Jim DeMint, the Republican from S.C., that was on the Comcast News. He said Senator Clinton expresses herself well and will not make “rookie mistakes.” HMMMMMM…..I wonder if that is directed at our wonderful Messiah, the great and remarkable ONE.

Comment by Diana L. C. | 2009-01-13 11:22:13

And I forgot to mention how I nearly upchucked while reading the article because it was pointed out several times that Hillary and the PEBO share views. Whoever wrote the damn thing should have been truthful. They “share” views because our most wonderful genius of a PEBO always had to pilfer his ideas from her.

 
 

Comment by Sonic Ninja Kitty | 2009-01-13 11:21:21

Dear Susan, I was going to write a comment about what they said on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, but it turned into something bigger:
http://sonicninjakitty.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/six-o-dumb-or-half-dozen-o-corrupt/
Double standards in media, as usual.

 

Comment by lorac | 2009-01-13 11:34:37

Go Boxer! Boxer and Hillary, what strong, intelligent women! I see now why someone like “kissy” is here – very jealous and threatened so she has to talk about bags. She probably works at Burger King, herself (I assume they take GEDs).

I think Corker, the republican from TN, was also very genuinely respectful of her.

 

Comment by I'm a Linda too | 2009-01-13 11:40:04

Have you all realized that O-shit! could only hold an elected office, a position put there by unaware citizens. He could never stand up to the scrutiny and real background checks that more important positions, the ones who do the work, not the Front man, have to go through.

The really good news folks, O-shit won’t be able to get even Elected to any other office of importance ever again.

Woohooo! That is cause for celebration.

O-shit’s Word of the week,
SMART
do your shot!

Comment by lorac | 2009-01-13 11:44:43

Yeah, I was just thinking how terribly he would be tripping himself were he to have to answer questions without prepared, teleprompter assisted answers.

Thank god (so to speak) that we still have a few real public servants, who actually have qualifications and work hard. We are so lucky that Hillary is willing to stick around and save us.

 
 

Comment by IndyRobin | 2009-01-13 11:43:52

Can we all make a group decision to ignore Kissy? I should not have responded. If we ignore her/him/… it will scurry back to where-ever it came from.

Lets make this a day of celebration. HRC is showing the world her strength, dignity and ability to move forward. Let’s all follow suite.

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2009-01-13 11:49:05

Your right! Thanx for the reminder

Comment by IndyRobin | 2009-01-13 12:14:09

Big smile S4H …thanks

 
 

Comment by Diana L. C. | 2009-01-13 12:13:46

I have grown to like my cats very much. I like how they like to play with their prey. I have enjoyed reading all the retorts posted to kissy. It has lightened my morning a little to reaffirm my opinion of many of the people who voted for PEBO.

 
 

Comment by Barium | 2009-01-13 11:44:10

As often as it’s decried, the world truly does look to America for hope, and stabilty.

That alone helps to provide a strong basis upon which successful foreign policy can be built.

(And I don’t refer to it as “soft power” — that is simply a misnomer).

Clinton has just said she intends to reestablish that avenue of diplomacy, and while it is no guarantee, it’s a start.

It feels like we’re back in the 21st century, again.

 

Comment by Gary McGowan | 2009-01-13 11:47:50

And to think, at this very moment, Dick Cheney is working like hell to get WWIII going before January 20th.

 

Comment by lorac | 2009-01-13 11:57:05

How wonderful that there is so much talk of worldwide violence against women. They are so right that we can’t have peace and prosperity with so much sexism and misogyny. The mistreatment of the majority cannot be allowed to continue.

 

Comment by Sassy | 2009-01-13 11:57:06

Corker is my Senator…so far, I like him.
Lugar is always a gentleman, and he set the tone for a respectful hearing.
Hillary’s opening statement was really good.
She will get a lot of confirmation votes, I’m sure.
She looks tired, but she works very hard, and will certainly do so now!

 

Comment by jjsmoof | 2009-01-13 12:01:05

thanks to everyone live blogging for those of us who can’t watch.

 

Comment by Gary McGowan | 2009-01-13 12:04:46

I’m so glad she mentioned the Millennium Development Goals, and the violence in the Congo and Darfur.

Now she’s talking about women’s rights and the vital need to educate girls and lift them up out of poverty.
She’s reminding us of the important work of her future staff – foreign and civil service workers. She’s smart – she’s already fighting for a strong and well funded department.

Hillary is always impressive and especially with the way she uses her voice. I could not help but hope that teachers and parents would take every opportunity to urge their daughters [if applicable] to refrain from the tonal, giggly girly-talk sound that grates on the ears.

I realize that a lot of this is from imitating what they hear in the inane TV talking of the media’s chosen celebrities.

So let our daughters hear how a woman talks and eschew the baby talk.

(Above comments copied/stolen from Allegre’s corner, where they are following the hearing too. – by her and twandex.)

 

Comment by lorac | 2009-01-13 12:07:16

Chelsea is sitting right behind Hillary – what a wonderful mother/daughter relationship.

The female republican senator from Alaska is asking Hillary about Arctic issues. Hillary knows all about it.

 

Comment by candymarl | 2009-01-13 12:08:10

I’m glad to see someone finally mention the suffering of the Haitian people.

It’s almost impossible to find news about what’s going on there except from independent media. Lately even that news has slowed to a trickle.

Haiti has been a horror show for well over a year.

Hopefully, something can be done.

 

Comment by Sycamore | 2009-01-13 12:09:44

Why arent’ you covering the passport break in story? The man who did it was caught. He said he was asked to “cauterize” Obama’s file and only accessed Hillary and McCain’s file to divert attention.

Here is a post from another blog:
This is common sense, people. He traveled to Pakistan on his Indonesian passport. He must not have applied (or stolen) a social security number until he was attending Harvard Law School. That is the only time he lived in the Northeast, since his prefix numbers of 042 are assigned to the Northeast (Orly’s blog site). Therefore, he had to have another passport to travel to Pakistan as a 19 or 20 year old–one that would allow him to travel without a social security number from the U.S. He used his Indonesian passport! He had to be at least 22 to attend Harvard Law school after undergrad school. Check and MATE!

Comment by lorac | 2009-01-13 12:39:12

I think you scared the troll away! (thanks!)

 
 

Comment by Sycamore | 2009-01-13 12:11:06

Hillary is frickin’ brilliant! I am depressed watching her on C-span, knowing she should have been President!

 

Comment by Dormaphaea | 2009-01-13 12:13:08

Did a short bus break down somewhere around here?

 

Comment by lorac | 2009-01-13 12:13:40

Hillary is so inspirational. I just so love people who study hard, work hard, don’t cheat, and don’t expect handouts. So many little girls are being inspired to develop their potential by Hillary’s example.

Comment by Barium | 2009-01-13 12:19:10

Isn’t that Chelsea sitting to her right?

How proud they must be!

 
 

Comment by lorac | 2009-01-13 12:15:45

Cardin is thanking her for stepping forward to serve. She worked hard in the Senate, and they all know it.

And they all know who did NOT.

 

Comment by pumatiza | 2009-01-13 12:17:03

 

Comment by Barium | 2009-01-13 12:17:42

I thought I had read Clinton, along with Jones and others from Obama’s team, were in fact working on the current Israeli action?

That is a 24/7 ordeal, with the addition of preparing for these hearings, it must unimaginable, exhausting.

I dont’ know how they do it.

 

Comment by IndyRobin | 2009-01-13 12:24:24

What astounds me about HRC is her insurmountable grasp of knowledge in so many different subject matters.

One might be expected to excel in one or two areas of expertise … but she is knowledgeable, if not prolific, in so many areas it is actually mind blowing.

Comment by Barium | 2009-01-13 12:32:58

We forgot what it is to have intelligent people in American government.

Feingold, too, can run the gauntlet, I bet.

 
 

Comment by scorbs | 2009-01-13 12:33:38

Right, Barium, she’s dealing with a lot of pressure, preparing for her new job and tying up things in New York. She’s also among the first confirmation hearings, and right, Indy, she has a great grasp of many things. The nation is very lucky to have such people like this in government positions.

 

Comment by Gary McGowan | 2009-01-13 12:33:55

she will have an active women’s office tracking slavery, discrimination of women worldwide.
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[camera] shot back towards hillary and the packed room behind her … what a huge audience of reporters back there.
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Both senators who mentioned the Clinton Foundation mentioned it entirely as a problem with the media.
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Violence against women is not culture it is not custom it is criminal.…women enslaved abused tortured in every way. i take responsibility to do all i can do to end this modern slavery. sex, wage slavery, primarily slavery of girls and women. We cannot have a free and progressive world is women are treated in such a violent way…Wants to use State Dept. to end human trafficking.

Addressing Kristof’s article re: women and slavery.
OMG!!! Tweety cut her off!
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She is letting each Senator know she knows their problems and is informed on their issues. begins each senator’s question with how important the issue is, and laying out and clarifying how she’d handle it.
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(Above is smattering of phrases from comments at the confluence/riverdaughter’s.) I’ll stop now.

 

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