He Was For It Before He Was Agin’ It
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on January 14, 2009 at 3:35 PM in Backtrack Obama, Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Caroline Kennedy, Current Affairs, DNC idiocy, Democratic Nomination, GLBT, Hillary Clinton, New York State, Pandering, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Sexism
And other news on the ever-changing Barack Obama.
Perhaps you have now heard that a 1996 questionnaire for Barack Obama has mysteriously reappeared AFTER he was elected (which of course he could not have done without the DNC’s new take on voting, i.e., it doesn’t really matter for whom you cast your vote – they will give it to whomever they damn well please). Yes, it is a questionnaire that Obama filled out, and signed himself (though he’ll probably blame it on some staffer pretty soon here) in which he says he SUPPORTS same-sex marriage!
Say, WHAAA??? Yes, indeedy! Ben Smith of Politico.com has this article, “Obama Backed Same Sex Marriage in 1996“:
A document has emerged suggesting that Obama had taken more public, liberal stands in the past than had been revealed in the digging of reporters and opposition researchers over two years of campaigning, the latest of several pointing to a rightward shift as he moved into national politics.In a 1996 questionnaire filled out for a Chicago gay and lesbian newspaper, then called Outlines, Obama came out clearly in favor of same-sex marriage, which he has opposed on the public record throughout his short career in national politics.
“I favor legalizing same-sex marriages,and would fight efforts to prohibit such marriages,” Obama wrote in the typed, signed, statement.
There was no use of “civil unions,” and “no compromise whatsoever,” the Windy City Times story today notes.
On another questionnaire the same year, Obama said he would support a resolution in support of same-sex marriage.
The editor of the Windy City Times, a successor of Outlines, Tracy Baim, said she hadn’t deliberately held onto the news until after Obama’s election. Baim, who had been the editor of Outlines at the time, said that just before the election, she ran across the old Outline story saying Obama backed same-sex marriage, but only dug his forgotten questionnaire out of an old box this week, having assumed that she’d lost it.
Obama now says he opposes same-sex marriage, though he backs giving gays and lesbians a parallel package of marriage-like rights, and opposes a federal ban on same-sex marriage.
Here is a copy of the document:
Okay, now why does ANYONE believe Obama on ANYTHING he says? He changes like the wind. You never know which way he will turn.
Oh – and did you notice his response on #10? He has dialed down that rhetoric a bit now, too. Here is but one take on his position. A quick search will provide many more.
Next on the list is Obama’s choice of dining companions last night. Marc Ambinder has a report in this article, Obama Dines With Conservative Opinion Leaders“:
It’s true.
He motorcaded to a house in Maryland this evening, and if the press pool report is accurate, he is breaking bread with William Kristol and David Brooks. (If Brooks and Kristol seem to be unusually briefed about Obama’s thinking, you’ll know why.)
CBS News’s Dan Raviv tells the pool that the house, on Grafton Street in Chevy Chase, belongs to George Will. (Unless he’s moved.)
Tomorrow, I hear Obama has another private meeting with non-Republican opinion columnists.
Ellen Moran, the incoming White House communications director, set these meetings up.
Again — establishment opinion matters to the Obama communications team.
Oh, I just can’t wait to see what’s next with Mr. Slippery. But I won’t have to wait for long, thanks to Comcast. Oh, yes — Comcast has decided to run an All-Obama-All-The-Time Channel. No, I am NOT making this up. Seriously — it’s for real.
I know I have said before that some Obama supporters (oh, all right – many) are just delusional, not accepting the reality of who this man is and for what he stands (if you can figure it out, that is – except we do know he is at least anti-gay, so there’s that). But this has morphed into flat out insanity. I honestly thought we had reached the zenith of nut-job-iness (yes, that’s a technical term!) with the Bush supporters, but Obama’s supporters are making them look like the most well-balanced, intelligent, grounded folks around. Except for those of us in the reality-based community, that is.
This is just crazy. Crazy!! Can you IMAGINE what all of these exact same people would have said if Comcast has an All-Bush channel?? You know that everyone would be screaming BLOODY murder about that! But now, our nation has collectively crossed the line, and this has become acceptable. Holy crap.
There are two bright lights in the news this week, though. One is that Caroline Kennedy is being edged out in her Camelot quest for Senator Clinton’s Empire State seat. Yes, the people of NY, you know, the ones who really SHOULD have a say in all of this since it is their representation at state, are backing Andrew Cuomo. Assuming their governor is paying attention, it will be nice to see that at least one person doesn’t sell out to the highest bidder and actually listens to their constituents (oh, you know about what I am talking – all of those senators and representatives who didn’t give a WHIT who their constituents wanted for the Democratic nominee – I know, I know, not that it would have mattered since the DNC didn’t care, either, but still…It would have been, um, nice if SOMEONE had a backbone. Maybe Paterson does!).
And the other bright light – well, bittersweet, really – is seeing Senator Clinton display her brilliance and command of the issues during her confirmation hearing (if only C-Span would STOP tossing it from channel to channel to online back to channel).
Watching her, though, is just a reminder of who we SHOULD Have had, this brilliant woman who knows policy. Who makes it CLEAR where she stands, e.g., with women and girls who are being abused as she did yesterday, when she said this:
“They want to maintain an attitude,” she charged, “that keeps women unhealthy, unfed, uneducated, and this is something that results all too often in violence against these young women.” (NYTimes Live Blog)
“This is not culture, this is not custom, this is criminal,” she said.
She’s got that right.
And to all of those women who supported Mr. Misogynist, you blew it. BLEW it. He is not the one who will ensure that women’s rights are human rights. Hillary Clinton will. Obama is a perpetrator of sexism. Clinton is on the side of equality. But I digress.
Back to the hearings: She has a mastery of issues and policies that should be the envy of Obama. Yes, she looks tired. Unlike Bush, I mean, Obama, she has not had a vacation (Obama has had two since the DNC gave him the nomination, in case you are keeping score – TWO). Clinton has continued her tireless work. So, yes, she looks pretty tired, but she can still talk circles around Mr. “Uh, Um, Uh, Well, Look.”
Bittersweet, indeed. Watching Senator Clinton talk is just an ugly reminder of how the DNC and Obama screwed the majority of Democrats in this country. Seeing her is a reminder of who we COULD have had, who we really needed to get us out of this mess we are in. Because Mr. First Term Senator With No Record On Which To Stand is not going to be the one to fix it.
The one saving grace is the comfort of knowing Secretary of State Clinton will be handling some major issues facing us, at home and abroad. (I still cannot get over the way Obama LIED about her extensive Foreign Policy experience, with his minions buying it. No sooner had the last state reported, for all intents and purposes, he announces Clinton for this very important foreign policy post, citing her experience!! Oh, but the Obots will excuse that, too, just like every other damn thing they refuse to acknowledge.)
So that’s the quick round-up. Feel free to add other goings-on of the day!
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I have never seen such a flip flopping back tracking political opportunist, panderer and hustler.
This man shold have been up for an Oscar instead of the presidency.
The link to Politico is no longer available. hmm
As a reporter from Chicago, who knows Barry O so well, said, it appears quite correct as well.
“Yes, Obama is a cynic and a liar. Having spent about an hour alone with the man, I also think he’s very shallow, a rank hustler.”
Amusing, though, the presidential mantle they’re throwing around him, like a an overcoat.
9Lincoln’s overcoat, no doubt).
Best to remember who he is, no matter how he’s portrayed.
And it isn’t presidential.
Much like other cult of personality leaders, his followers seem to think he has a “secret plan” and only says things they dont like to “trick the bad guys”.
Its amazing to me how few people can actually exercise judgement and critical thinking these days.
It is not that 0bama has changed his mind about gay marriage. The fact is he never had a mind. He says whatever he has to to please whomever he is talking to at the time. That is the definition of an empty suit. He has no values. he has no principles. He is a low life. And just why did 0bama appoint Ray LaHood to Sec of Transportation? a GOP corrupt jerk who is from Ill and one of his top contributors was swept up in the Blago scandals, pay to play. And another of LaHoods biggest contributors is Catepillar. I don’t imagine the Sec of Transportation will have much to do with a stimulus package in the hundreds of billions for Road building and of course Catepillar has nothing much to do with heavy equipment for road building, does it??????
Corruption on a level we have not seen yet. And we thought Cheney and Bush were corrupt. They are rank amateurs.
Folks, we are in deep trouble. Many voted for a man that is not what he presented himself to be. I predict hope-aide detox centers opening in a town near you within one year.
In the meantime, our country is going to crumble at the hands of a total incompetent, training-on-the-job President, with the democratic controlled Congress giving him anything he wants, whether right or wrong. The only difference between Obama and Bush is skin color.
I think Abe Lincoln was right in his debate with Douglas and Douglas was right in his thinking but maybe not right in his assessment of Lincoln. The Lincoln /Dougals Debates 1858 seem (now)to have been a prophetic revelation. Even more so than the “Visions of George Washington” and the “Three Perils”.
hope-aide detox centers — ROFLMAO
I’m starting to think that at least Bush had principles, so unlike 0.
I cannot believe I am going to say this but Bush stands up for what he believes in and I give him credit for that. Unfortunately, I do not agree with anything he stands for.
Obama has no principles. Can someone name one thing he has stood for?
During the campaign, another questionnaire came out where he indicated he supported gun control. He denied filling it out and blamed it on an internal error by his staff.
Infanticide. We are not talkin late term abortion; we are talkin letting the botched borns fend for themselves on a Darwinian slab of cold marble.
The only woman who will have any rights under the obama administration is his meechelle, the lady? in the black and red dress. I believe it was ABC who (about a month ago was talking about MOb’s mom moving into the White House with them) was calling michell’s mother “The First Queen’s Mother). First Queen’s mother? Then that must make obama the “first king”.Sounded like just what a lot of people had already been saying, that Obama was about to establish the first kingship to ever rule over us. What a frigging revolting mess.
… and his two daughters … don’t forget he always refers to wanting to see them not be discriminated against as women
… but he never actually refers to women as a class — just two his two daughters ….
truth….. I remember her as referred to by the Rev Manning from New York. She looks like King Kong’s baby sister! Lol, that Rev speaks his mind!
a rank hustler is much to kind words
Not to take away from this thread but i thought you would like to see this.
http://www.hannity.com/article.asp?id=397001
We are so screwed
I promise you if obama get’s americans killed, i’m going to play slap the nearest dumb ass dem.
I have a question: who will be paying for Granny’s detail, spokeperson, personal assistant, fashion consultants etc.? Or the Constitution specifies that extended family needs will be taken care by the tax-payers?
I hope it will at least be deducted from his pay…lol
Nobama ….Is there such a law???? Where does it say in constitution that extended family will be provided for by the Tax payer? This is welfare! I am totally appalled!
Great post RRRA. I had previously read about his ‘original’ stance on gay marriage, so was not surprised about this ‘news.’
I heard from a couple of friends the other day that there is movement afoot to PAY Michelle O a salary while she is in our White House. Could this be true?
Actually, found a little tidbit on the salary issue using the google. I’ll try to post link here, but not sure it will take:
http://michelleobamawatch.com/should-michelle-receive-a-paycheck
Maybe, his flip-flop has to do with the questions regarding his personal behavior? There are those pesky Larry Sinclair allegations.
But Rev. Amy, Obama said that when it was convenient to say that. Expediency is something we’re going to have to get use to as we gear up for “hope and change.”
What a party-pooper you are!
Meanwhile, this is being said by someone struggling to remain guardedly optimistic. But today has put a real crimp in my personal program.
The 24/7 Obama channel is wa-a-ay too creepy for my tastes. But then, I was turned off with the Lincolnesque push–the train ride, the Lincoln Bible and now the food and drink imitating the “Lincoln way.”
Obamatrons are obviously not into “subtle” symbolism, which might give us an idea of what they really think about the public at large [something on the order--the sheeples are so dense you have to hit them between the eyes and a dozen times over the head until they get it].
Okay, I got it. I don’t like it. In fact, I’m offended.
And if the Lincoln bedroom is truly haunted, I hope the ghosties and ghouls make a surprise appearance [of course, some would argue they already have].
Jeeze. Is there no end to the arrogant theatrics? I guess lies and flip-flops are considered business as usual. Because afterll, the Obamanation can make the public believe anything.
Aghhhhhhh!
I thought about this whole issue of the Obama propaganda. Had Obama won the nomination fair and square, I would have been disappointed about Hillary, but I would have voted for him.
Even so, I would have still gotten creeped out and turned off by the hoopla and Obamaganda.
To me, the hype that surrounds Obama is similar to the hype around “the Secret” and it is pushed by the same crowd of simplistic optimists.
I agree, Hillary or Bust. I’ve always liked and admired HRC. But when the primary first started, I was really enthused with the overall choice of candidates, thinking I’d be happy voting for a number of them. I liked John Edwards, Chris Dodd and Biden. But one by one, they all appeared weak and ineffectual. Barack Obama was the weakest of them all.
In contrast, the more I looked at Hillary the stronger she was.
The delegate fiasco was the bitter end. Then, I knew the numbers had been cooked, the die cast long before the primaries. And I will never forgive the Democratic Party for that, never look at the party in the same way.
But the Obamaganda [nice label] really creeps me out. School kids singing tributes to “The One,” doesn’t make me feel warm and fuzzy. Quite the reverse. The cult of personality is dangerous. And whether we’re ready or not, we’re going to see it play out, right here in the land of the free and the brave.
Whether thr lyrics are 100% true or not, I don’t want to the words changed to “the land of the entranced and stupid.”
Nail. Head. Period.
Thank you.
My only question is why is anyone here surprised?
I have watched so many people here look at The Kenyan’s appointments as though there were some silver lining to this.
If you use human excrement to grow vegetables, why be surprised if you get sick when eating the results of your labors.
To see this enemy of freedom as anything less than the real threat to our rights that he is only leads to false Hope that he and his puppet masters are going to Change.
This is no “Chicken Little” warning. To expect anything other than lies and manipulation from this man is utter folly.
He has proven he cannot be trusted at every level of his life. He has lied and committed crimes which we, here discovered on our own.
Caucus fraud, ACORN, Rezko, Alsammarre… any of this ring a bell?
The fucker is a crook! Remember?????
Quit trying to rationalize some chance that there will be any good outcome from this guy…
Apparently the price of Milk of Amnesia and Hopium has gone down so much that some of you are trying it out…
First one’s free!
If I may comment-WTH, this is America and NQ-so I will! Senator outshines the phony messiah, just demostrate what is best about our country. Barry Soetoro, Mr. Drama Queen will be tooooo busy covering-up his Chicago Cesspool associations and personal behavior to be an effective prez! MSM will do its best to cover for the phony one. Yes, historic that our country has elected its first Blk president. Too bad, its “that one!”
The first 1/2 black president. He is the first biracial president. I refuse to call him black. How many times have any of you heard him say he was black? During his quest for the presidency, he would say, “They are going to say, ‘did you know he was black?’” He would never say for example, I am a proud Black man, or I am a proud African American man. He only denigrated Blacks. At one rally early in the primaries, he blamed blacks for the health care crisis, talked about our eating habits and inferred that we were mostly dumb and had dumb kids. Some AA friends of mine said that he said those things to get white votes. 95% of African Americans believed him. I did not. I think he despises whites and blacks. I think he is a sick individual who is getting even with blacks and whites in his past who rejected him over the years. That is why am proud to be in the 5% of AA’s who did not vote for him. All of my family and friends know that I refused to vote for him, and I am proud of it. Go Hillary!!!!
I will! The, she demostrates
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Looks like the gay marriage story at Politico has been Obamatized – er, disappeared.
Here’s another link that works – grab a screen shot while you can.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0109/Obama_backed_samesex_marriage_in_1996.html
Hey NQ, check the “hyphen” in your link: “Obama Backed Same Sex Marriage in 1996.“ It is causing it not to go to the correct address.
His takeover of the media is almost complete with the luncheon and the 24/7 Obama channel. Every truthtelling site and media outlet will soon be underground–think of the stuff that never came out during the election(the biggest being the L.A. Times video/transcript of BO at the anti-Semite’s Khalidi dinner–God only knows what it shows BO doing or saying. Whether the MSM can continue this way in the land of the free will soon be seen. But I hope we have enough people with parents, grandparents, etc who grew up in Communist regimes and passed down what it’s like to have the media shut down so no truth gets out that start to speak out against obamination.
Steve1, that was my question. As a WH resident, will she be entitled to the same perks as the First Family? And who picks up the bill?
Just curious….
Nobama….If there is no such law….Barry Soetoro administration better account for every penny spend on 1st granny! Too bad, his White granny didn’t make it. Would Micelle have invited her???
“Great post RRRA. I had previously read about his ‘original’ stance on gay marriage, so was not surprised about this ‘news.’”
Ditto. Why am I not even remotely surprised?
“I have never seen such a flip flopping back tracking political opportunist, panderer and hustler.”
ITA. What a bloody mess.
barf……..
Barry Soetoro atteneded Rev Wirght’s church for over twenty years, listening to that hate…married by the good Rev. Kids listened to the “Mr. God Damn, America Rev!” He doesn’t invite Wright? Some friend! Hey why doesn’t he invite Rev Manning to give the innvocation?
At least the wind has a direction, and provides fresh air. Obama’s changes are more staggering, like a drunkard trying to keep his balance.
Literary excellence.
He fought and won to take away our right to vote in the democratic primary.
He bought superdelgates with hundreds of thousands of dollars cash under the table.
The media refuses to report any facts that don’t put him in a positive light.
Fixed elections. Government corruption. Politically controlled media.
Is this the Soviet Union???
Americans better fight hard or else we will never re-gain our democracy.
If “zero-qualifications” Obama can do it, every other political hack/thug in the country will be doing it next time.
America’s democracy is DEAD!
It’s amazing: leftists are actually giddy over this news of the recently “found” document. They think Barack has simply been lying about his position on gay marriage during the campaign to get elected.
In their Kool-Aid addled brains, Barack is secretly on their side!
Edit: I’m quite sure Barack has no position on much of anything – only political expediency and the prevailing wind.
I knew this would happen! I figure it’d be excused as poor Obama had to lie. The right wing religious fanatics or evil republicans would ONLY concentrate on the gay marriage issue and BO wouldn’t get any chance to talk about any of the other important changes he’d want to make. He had no choice, he had to lie! MMM, how about the choice to stand by his convictions and take whatever arrows come his way because in his heart he knows it’s the RIGHT thing to do?
Oh I forgot, this is just another example of BOES (barak obama empty suit) syndrome.
I don’t care about gay marriage. Let them have at it if they so choose. So how he feels about the issue isn’t the concern for me. Rather, Obamas inability to pick a side and stick with it long term and most importantly, publicly, is the biggest indicator that he has no personal courage. He is wishy washy and I just can’t get behind wimps!
You guys are right… Obama hid himself from the country…he is a secret Liberal. Oh wait, doesn’t that run opposite of your claims that he is just another Bush conservative?! DOH! Conflicting talking points.. Oww! The stupid, it burns. Do you guys even realize how dumb you are?