TGIF Open Thread!
By SusanUnPC on January 16, 2009 at 6:00 PM in CNN, Inauguration Day, Joe The Plumber, Media Bias, Media Handling of Story, Media, Television, Michelle Obama, Open Thread, Racism, Religion
Take in and digest each of these, will you? And then do tell us how you react to each? Below the fold, you’re going to learn that Robert Redford hates poor people and is a racist, and that one CNN reporter felt compelled to slam “Joe the Plumber” with a stern lecture.
(1) My question: Where did this girl learn to talk to her father like that? Just wondering … (as I chuckle wickedly to myself) …
Obama’s Daughter On Inaugural Speech: “It Better Be Good”
As the final preparations are made for his historic Inauguration on Tuesday, pressure is mounting for President-elect Barack Obama– including from his own children. Speaking to the Washington Post, Obama gives an account of his family “field trip” to the Lincoln Memorial where there is an inscribed copy of the 16th President’s famous Second Inaugural speech. At this point, Obama’s 7 year-old daughter Sasha asked her father if he would be giving a similar speech. Obama describes the interaction to the Post:
“And I said, ‘Well, actually, that’s a short version, but yeah, I will,’ ” Obama recalled. “And then Malia says, ‘First African American president — it better be good.’
“So I just want you to know the pressures I’m under here from my children.The family’s “field trip” was a symbolic gesture to Lincoln, to whom Obama has frequently been compared. Obama’s children clearly have equally or even higher expectations of their father. This sets them somewhat apart from their mother, who throughout the campaign has insisted that her husband is merely human. Ta-Nahisi Coates, in the January/February Atlantic delves into this quirk extensively, explaining why Michelle Obama was initially viewed as an “Angry Black Woman” during the campaign and why that really isn’t the case at all. The article gives an enlightening account of the value the Obamas place on family. …
(2) SensibleWoman e-mailed this story to me. She noted in her e-mail, “It aggravated me to listen to Rick S. ‘calling out’ Joe the Plumber (whom we all KNOW isn’t a journalist) after going through the ‘08 Election year NOT getting enough info from those we THOUGHT were journalists.”
The thoughts of Rick Sanchez, not the sharpest knife in the drawer, if you ask me.
(3) Did you know that film legend and environmental activist Robert Redford is an enemy of the poor, and a racist to boot? Nope? Me either.
Protesters label Redford an enemy of the poor
Oil and gas drilling » Clergymen link famed moviemaker’s stance to racism.Hollywood’s Sundance Kid is hurting poor people.
So say some East Coast ministers and conservative activists, who took to the streets in front of a downtown Salt Lake City theater on the eve of Robert Redford’s Sundance Film Festival to accuse the actor of holding down low-income Americans with his opposition to oil and gas drilling near national parks in Utah.
The protesters, led by the Congress of Racial Equality’s national spokesman Niger Innis, suggested Redford should “relinquish his wealth” and live like a poor person. They complained that the filmmaker’s anti-drilling stance could lead to higher energy prices for inner-city residents, forcing them to accept a lower standard of living.
The clergymen prayed for Redford “to see the light” and linked his environmental activism with racism.
“The high energy prices we’re going to see this winter are essentially discriminatory,” said Bishop Harry Jackson Jr. of the Hope Christian Church in Beltsville, Md., chairman of the High-Impact Leadership Coalition, a petroleum industry advocate.
A month ago, Redford, a trustee of the National Resources Defense Council, voiced support for a federal lawsuit aimed at blocking the Bush administration’s “morally criminal” attempt to auction 103,000 acres of scenic redrock desert for oil and gas drilling near Arches and Canyonlands national parks and Dinosaur National Monument. …
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So, let me get this straight–destroying the land so that rich elitists like Dick Cheney can make more millions through their interests in the oil lobby helps poor people? Are they sure they want to make that argument, right now? I didn’t think so.
But, this is enlightening, if a bit shocking and chaotic in form and language:
[Please note] The opinions in this column belong to those who assert them. The historical facts remain facts, like them or not. There is a list of sources for further enlightenment.
UK Jewish Member of Parliament Likens Israel to Nazis
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2009/01/uk-jewish-member-of-parliament-likens.html
Circuit City is liquidating, and the rumour is a few more of the larger stores may go, also.
30,000 employees out of work.
Sad, I hope it doesn’t get too bad.
The State of California has frozen …the gears of government grinding to a halt.
Companies that are contracted by the State have now been idled. Son in law went to work and no work.
Dominos. Those 30k people are not happy, along with a whole lota of people in the line in front of them.
Hope don’t put food on the table. Come Feburary 1st, 3 billion dollars short and can’t even pay tax returns.
That “my friends” is taxation without representation. Chump change.
The first African American President? Ummm, I’d rather save that title for someone more deserving. Read it here:
http://mylifeontheglist.com/
The first African American President? Ummm, I’d rather save that title for someone more deserving. But the first afirmative action president, he is.
Read it here:
http://mylifeontheglist.com/
Where did this kid learn to talk to her father like that? Hmm, don’t have kids, do you?
Her mother taught her.
What is interesting is that Stinky has no issue sharing how little respect he gets at home. I hope for his sake at least the dog is male.
If anyone wants to strike back at Obama supporters, an excellent way to do that is to point out that FactCheck and several MSM reporters are lying. I provide proof that they’re lying here:
http://24ahead.com/s/obama-citizenship
Please note: that’s not a “tinfoil hat” page. My only claims are that where Obama was born has not be definitively proven, and that FactCheck is lying about the statement from the Hawaii Dep’t of Health. Comparing what the HI Dep’t of Health actually said to FactCheck’s take on what they said will clearly show that. Please don’t take that page as either a claim or as proof that Obama was born outside Hawaii. My claim is simply that we don’t know for sure.
Note also the difficulties I’m having getting that to stick in Wikipedia here: peekURL.com/zq9gv93
Let’s not forget that Lincoln wrote that speech and didn’t have a groper for a speechwriter.
Yeah, That One and his Frat Boy use a random phrase-generator to come up with oratorical claptrap That One uses to exercise his jawbone and our patience.
Just think of how much better the Gettysburg Address would have been if only Lincoln would have had a “random phrase-generator!” But the poor guy didn’t even have a laptop. Or a teleprompter. Or a speechwriter witty enough to grope cardboard cutouts. Wrote speeches himself on scraps of paper. What a pitiful neanderthal!
I hope I’m not showing any Luddite proclivities but what the heck is a
?
Google the term “random phrase generator.” a software tool to inspire creativity. Does Favreau actually use one? Perhaps. Lincoln, on the other hand, certainly did not.
The daughter’s reaction to Obama’s speech strikes me as typically child-like–you better make it good, Daddy. I’m not so sure I buy the qualification: As the first African American, it better be good.
But what do I know?
The Sundance brouaha struck me as completely off the mark, considering the small amount of oil/gas that could be pulled from the area. Which only reminds me that regardless of what you agree or disagree with, sensible or not, you “will” have crtics coming out of the woodwork.
What else is going on in the world? Well, it appears that the “only” thing that has happened in the last 24+ hours is the plane that came down in the Hudson River.
I’m glad that there were no injuries. I tip my hat to the pilot. But, come on! Too often, these heroes of the moment are eaten alive, drained dry by the press and the 24/7 coverage. I hope that doesn’t happen.
Beyond that, it looks like a ceasefire is close in Gaza. And that would be good news.
I am from South Florida, home to Rick Sanchez where he grew up as a cuban/American. He covered the police beat for a local station here. There was a problem though when he and his father left a Miami Dolphin’s football game. He accidentally hit a pedestrian with his car and went on home. He returned several hours later (after sobering up) to cover the story. Turns out, he was with his father, both had been drinking, he hit the man but did not think there had been any damage? The police buddies covered up for the guy and let him go back home to sleep it off and it was swept under the rug. Then he left for CNN. Go figure.
I cannot tolerate the comparison his excellence Barack Obama makes of himself to Abraham Lincoln. Based on my studies of Abraham Lincoln, Mr. BO is not worthy.
Some kids might speak to their parents like that..but Im not sure many parents would want to admit to it. To me this type of talk shows a lack of respect for the parents. Respect that is taught in the home.
Right now Im just expecting to see the a big ole EXPENSIVE party in DC, which with our economical problems right now is so very inanely frivolous.
You would think with all the unemployment, people about to be unemployed, families in foreclosure, familes about to be foreclosed on, and etc in our country that Obama would try a bit of a more low dollar approach to his ignaruation.
Wasnt it Obama who said that we all needed to tighten our belts a bit and do away with some of the extras.
So what does Obama do–Spend twice as much as the biggest ignaruation celebration.
Im sorry but with all the people who are now having to do without and many doing without the just the some of the necessities, I think making an ignaruation celebration the most costly ever for our country’s taxpayers is ludicrous and inane.
JMHO
He apparently didn’t mean the “royal we”–just us peasants.
We’re very fortunate that we cake-eaters will be assisted in our belt-tightening by the collapse of the economy.
Nice retort: we cake eaters. LMAO.
Isn’t it wonderful of us taxpayers to also get to pay for the extra security that is needed in DC for his coronation?
Excuse me, but I thought he was rolling in dough. Why should we have to pay for it? Were we asked to do so?
Those kids are BRATS — classist brats who are learning to HATE from their parents.
Yeck — Brats — I will NOT read another thing about those rugrat brats. And I could care less about the so called “dog” they’re getting.
Why do they need a dog — they have MRS. 0.
They want a dog because they think it comes with the presidential package. And the very wealthy and greedy guy probably thinks we taxpayers have to cough up the money to purchase and feed it for the next four years in spite of unemployment being at all time high. Reality isn’t one of his strong points, you know.
POOR LINCOLN, I think he is getting dizzy in his grave, turning around-around, anytime Obama is comparing himself with him(Lincol). You know what is a saying if you are hungry you talk about food.
Lincoln is rumored to haunt Our White House. Maybe he can give the pretender a night visit and share few choice words about democracy after he moves in.
Joe could and should kick Rick’s sorry butt.
O.K RICK S. WHAT DO I THINK ? WELL ITS NOT MUCH. AS FAR AS I KNOW YOU DID NOT STAND IN A CROWD OF PEOPLE, ASKING THE HARD QUESTIONS TO OBAMA AT A TIME WHEN MANY IN THE MEDIA DIDN’T. YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER STUFF SHIRT WHO IS BEHOLDING TO OTHER STUFF SHIRTS WHO SIGN YOUR PAYCHECK. SO RICK S, STAP ON A FLAK JACKET AND GUN AND GO TO THE MIDEAST AND SHOW US HOW ITS DONE. YOU WANT REPECT FOR ATTACKING A EASY TARGET LIKE JOE, LET SEE HOW BIG YOUR BALLS ARE.
I just listened to Mark Shields on PBS’s Newshour worshipping Obama. Shields said something bizarre about about Obama being the first “post-cultural” president, then went on to list some of the issues of the 60’s like Vietnam and the woman’s movement Of course he didn’t mention civil rights. Then Shields enthusiastically said Obama could not care less about those issues and did not have side!! Is it any wonder that liberals are such losers? Apparently it is much better to have a president who doesn’t care about pesky things like women’s rights.
Then David Brooks, who met Obama at this week’s neocon dinner at George Will’s house, blathered on about how great it was that Obama is driven by empiricism and has no ideology, no grand vision of what government should accomplish, blah blah blah.
So according to these guys, Obama is REALLY great because he stands for nothing. No surprise to me, but I bet his loyal followers will be surprised when - or if - they ever stop drinking the Koolaid.
O is a big giant emptiness into which any fool can project his fantasies. These “journalists” prove it once again.
Good catch - once Shields started slobbering I stopped listening. We’ll have to YouTube that.
Oh goodie - just what we need - the Seinfeld president. He’s about nothing, and lots of it!
That is so sad, Bernie. Are we left with the question of the Civil Rights Movement and whether it is also unimportant to Mr Obama. The answer would seem to be “no” since he has nothing but disdain for the men and women who marched and died. If the only reason for AA support for his election is the color of hi skin, they have accomplished their goal. If they believed he would empathise and try to provide a government more responsive to their needs, they will be disappointed and hurt.
Sorry. “The answer should be “YES.”
Mr. Soertoro/Obama is like Mr. George W. Bush and doesn’t plan to let a little thing like running a country interfere with his leisure. He’s for government by the rich, for the rich and of the rich so that their wealth will not perish and he has willingly thrown aside any moral code to get rich and stay rich and to prove he’s rich he celebrates himself at every opportunity.
I love your response, BernieO.
Dear Lord, did these boobs really say all that above. It sounds like they are trying to pull accolades out of their arse because they really have nothing concrete that is good to say.
It reminds me of going to see a performer in a play you did not like, but you’re trying to pay them a compliment anyway… “Hey, it’s great to see you working! What a spectacle!”
Sound familiar?
“So according to these guys, Obama is REALLY great because he stands for nothing. No surprise to me, but I bet his loyal followers will be surprised when - or if - they ever stop drinking the Koolaid.”
Sorry, but if you have no ideology, left, right, center, it means a) you don’t know yourself and you haven’t matured or b) you are very very new to politics.
I see neither as virtures.
Bernie O, since I no longer watch The News Hour, will you tell me if they had Gwen Ifill, their completely unbiased news anchor, moderating between the two Obama spokespeople?
Stinky was here in Ohio today extolling the virtues of wind power. Anyone know whether Uncle Teddy is still fighting wind power up there in Hyanis? Is it just me or does the hypocrisy sound a little toooooo shrubby to you?
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/05/07/kennedy_doesnt_play_by_the_rules/
I always thought that was the height of hypocrisy, Beebop. Kennedy and all the ultra-liberal greenies extolling the virtues of “clean” energy sources.
As long as it didn’t impact “their” neighborhood or shoreline vista.
Cut me a break!
… “yeah, but not in my neighborhood” takes on a whole different meaning?
He’s full of wind alright and now he’s got power. Whatch wanna bet nothing significant comes of it though. Doesn’t the theme of his cabinet appointments seem to be nuclear and corn ethanol to suck the bucks? If I’m delusional, please blow me some truth. And you are right, very shrubby of tubby.
His trip to Ohio was twofold:
1. Make sure Strickland stays in line.
2. Put pressure on Voinovich/make sure his replacement toes the line.
Ya know, it just begs for fart joke.
But I won’t.
… begs for “a” fart joke.
Sorry, must be channeling my inner Russian.
You’re pulling my finger, right?
beebop, that the “required” clip on the local news.
I had to laugh at his safety ‘googles’.
“half a million people are “being put to work” he says. Could have fooled me.
“worse before it gets better” sounded pretty cya to me …..
It is like BO is a carrier of an infectious form of liars mouth.
Stinky telling the TRUTH would be the surprise!
Open thread…Hmmmm
Sensilbe woman is pretty lucky to get through..
I have a problem with my emails to some people in the great North west..I just never hear back..even if I send crockpot recipes..and story about the history of aprons or Cute Kittys..
People in the Far corners of the north west have even been real Unfriendly..and just keep tellingme NOt to email them any more becuase they have enough from thier friends and they have enough friends so they don’t want MY Friendship..
Must be Something in the Fern Mold ..and if you are exposed to Mosssy trees and too Much Rain..and darkness…
Oh well…My Cat Likes me…He has been declawed..
$150,000–Palin’s wardrobe, all over the MSM,cover story for the NYT
$150,000,000–BO’s coronation, nothing negative said by MSM
We are so screwed once he steps into the WH.
If that is the price tag at this devastating time in our economy, that is a complete disgrace.
I believe it is actually going to cost more now that Dubya has called the inauguration a national emergency in order to mandate extra protection. Don’t know the breakdown however of cost to the taxpayers versus cost to donors though…
we’ll never see the final number imho …. might look worse than the AIG events.
Greed has no honor and is the basterd child of indifference.
While millions stand for the spectacle, everyone is running around setting up projectors in the school district so they can watch “history”.
150 million dollars can feed aand keep warm many people. Ya think BO cares?
You got it. He could have easily said to tone it down out of respect for the American people who voted him in and the country as a whole. His handlers want a big show/coronation and his little narcissistic heart could never recognize that this might be offensive. But you know what? Most of his worshippers will love it and could care less what it costs. They don’t want to know because it is all for their beloved One.
In other news, the drum beat grows to hold Dick Cheney and Co accountable for their crimes. Coverage of this is available at http://www.youtube.com/cheneywatch
They also have a site called, cheneywatch.org
I hope we restore the respect needed to honor our service members and restore the moral high ground to our country.
We spend so much time and effort training our CIA, FBI, and Military service members to perform their tasks professionally, only to have that stripped away by these jackals who spend too much time watching movies.
Well, I don’t like it when things are unfair and since I believe Obama and anyone in his administration will be held accountable for nothing, I say leave Cheney alone. This seems to be the kind of leader the Americans voters love. They must enjoy the abuse. Leave Cheney alone unless your willing to go after Obama!
I cannot believe the things I say/write/think since a year ago!
I don’t make exceptions. I will be pursuing anyone who abuses our constitution. I don’t have to fall into a false duality involving Obama. I didn’t vote for Obama.
The comment could work the other way around, don’t go after Obama if you aren’t willing to after Cheney.
I learned about Larry Johnson because Cheney authorized the release of Valerie Plame’s name. He hasn’t faced justice for this action. I will rest when he’s in prison along with his cohorts.
and in case you didn’t know, I helped NQ all during the primary provide you video of the antics of Obama’s campaign and the media sycophants, so my record of accountability precedes me.
do you know the Shakespeare “protest too much” line?
Hamlet Act 3, scene 2, 222–230
Lady Gertrude
try this one though:
Elie Wiesel:
Plato
“The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men”
BS …. Stinky 0bama has absolutely no intention of holding Cheney responsible — just like Nancy and the girls in charge. He’s hoping for no accountability when he walks out of the WH … Dick Nixon got off … why shouldn’t Stinky?
If you leave everything up to Obama’s choices, then I guess you get what you deserve in the end. Why sit back and let Obama decide the course of the nation?
Don’t leave it to Obama to decide.
He should be held to the same account.
beebop “BS …. Stinky 0bama has absolutely no intention of holding Cheney responsible — just like Nancy and the girls in charge”
By “girls”, are you referring to male senators, and you feel they aren’t doing their jobs, aren’t being “manly”, so you insult them by calling them girls….?
I’m guessing if you’re on NQ, you’re not sexist, but please examine your language. IMO, when people denigrate men by calling them “girls” or “women” or “sissies”, they are saying women are “less than” men, are second class.
IMO. Thanks.
well said lorac.
And I wouldn’t presume that there aren’t sexists who lurk or post here. But it is good that the owners of NQ won’t tolerate the chauvinism.
Lorac … my apologies if you were offended. As a female, I was insulted by all of the BS that Clinton and Palin took simply over an issue of their DNA … A man who would question a colleague’s abilities and talents to do a job based upon something as specious as one’s sex certainly has demonstrated that he deserves the same unreasonable taint. Tongue firmly in cheek. I love the visual image of Chris Dodd, Harry Reid, Barney Frank, etal dressed as back up singers to Diana Ross — though Barney might enjoy it. There. Now I have also made miserable the cross dressers, gay and lesbian readers. Seriously. Have we all lost our perspective and humor?
Beebop, you should have used girly-men like Ahhhnold.
Keep up the good fight girl!
I’ve been so proud watching my daughter over the past few days as she begins a new step in a life so full of accomplishment. And I know she’ll continue to do great things for our country.
Now I have to ask you — for the very last time — to give her your help. This is our last chance to help Hillary pay down the debt from her history-making campaign.
I know how much it would mean to her to have your help this one last time. Please take this opportunity to show Hillary your support by making a contribution today.
Contribute today to help my Hillary in honor of all she’s done to help our country throughout her life.
Thank you for everything you’ve done for Hillary — I know you make a difference for her every day.
Sincerely,
Dorothy Rodham
https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/form.html?sc=1376215&utm_source=1376215&utm_medium=e
I still respect Hillary, but no more money for politicians from this gal! Never!
In 2008, I donated more money to campaigns than ever before in my life. One was cheated out of the office, one I supported and then later chose to go for his opponent instead. One I regretted ever supporting him in my life and had to vote against him. I wasted alot of money and all I got was this damn fake historic President.
No more money for anyone. Hillary should be able to get it. None of these politicians need our money. it’s small potatoes to them anyway!
very powerful testimony regarding the 2008 season. Yes, there were a ton of donations that might now feel like fraud. I only donated to two campaigns, Clinton and Nader. I don’t feel slighted in my donation for either because I knew that it was possible they wouldn’t win, especially with Nader. But that wasn’t my aim.
However, I doubt I contributed as much as you did, so I respect your feelings about future donations.
i got one of those too.
as much as i love HILLARY i had to decline.
i thought bo was going to pay off her debt???????/
Skills, abilities, knowledge and experience is what landed the plane into the Hudson safely…
Skills, abilities, knowledge and exerience is what is needed to land this economy safely..
but we have a rookie at the wheel.
Bend down and hold onto your ankles real tight. Nazi Pelosi and nObama are going to continue to Obamaboozle the American public.
…As millions of Americans prepare to witness the circus of an Usurper thug master–the remainder of us get ready to keep the TV off.
I do not intend to turn my T.V. on at all on Tuesday, the 20th. I refuse to watch this circus. I will spend the day riding my horse, mucking stalls and enjoying the clean fresh air. I received the DVD John Adams for Christmas so I will watch that Tuesday night.
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Ninety One percent of gretas voter just said that Obama DISSED President Bush today by Admitting he went out for dinner and didn’t listen to president bush’s farwell speech today..
Sure aLLOT of DISSIN going On…DISSIN~DAT..
Well..I know bout that..some people never answser my Emails…
In case you didn’t catch Hillary’s full speech. Ah I love her in Navy blue.
http://www.clinton.senate.gov/news/statements/details.cfm?id=306786&&
“This could be a time when people will look back and say, you know, you never can count America out. Whenever the chips are down, we always rise to the occasion. We figure out a way forward and then we make life better – better for our people – and we extend peace and prosperity and progress throughout the world.
and we need your help to kind of clear up the fog, to give us a chance to really operate on all cylinders with the direction and the resources and the improved management techniques that I hope to bring to the job.
We have much to do over in Foggy Bottom
This is a challenging and defining moment. But I will always keep faith in this body and in my fellow Americans. And I remain an optimist that America’s best days are still ahead of us.” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Ooops in case that URL doesn’t work
http://www.clinton.senate.gov/news/statements/details.cfm?id=306786&&
WARREN G. HARDING:
AMERICA’S FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT
http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,10045.0.html
Wouldnt it be grand if they proved that HARDING’s great grandmother was black. That sure would dish every racial aspect Obama has been fighting for.
From what we know wouldnt that make Harding more Negro than Obama?
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Man, I love her!
A kid would say it better be the bomb daddy, but it is kind of strange for a kid e to mention that he is the first African American so it better be a good speech.
Most children don’t see color unless it is something that they hear around the house from their parents about who is black or white, so those words are strange coming from a kid, why did she just not say as president you better be good, but the stress point was you are black so it has to be good…strange indeed.
The Atlantic writer named Coates is a jerk. During the campaign, he deleted my posts because I was anti-Obama. However, I will give credit to the other Atlantic bloggers. Most of them would publish everyone’s posts or comments even if they were against BO’s candidacy.
Memo to Coates - MO is no role model. Her job at the University of Chicago was a pay for play. The University raised her salary from $125,000 to $300,000+ after Obama became a Senator. Since his election, her position has been eliminated. The Obamas are living a lifestyle like King Louie and Marie Antoniette and Barack isn’t even President.
Rebel Carol
Ditto! I plan to read books, walk my dog, exercise, make a delicious meal, and pray for our country. BO is going to bankrupt this nation with his socialist agenda. He is already running for President in 2012. His change or meetup groups are code words for Acorn. Under his leadership, we are turning into a Big Brother nation.
Patrick Henry
With BO’s “cult” of personality, it is no surprise that he didn’t watch President Bush’s speech. However, what goes around comes around. Did anyone catch Bush’s remark that he was proud to be a “citizen” of the US? Could he be referring to BO’s fake BC?
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