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		<title>By: lee M</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/18/who-did-they-think-they-were-kidding/#comment-1119904</link>
		<dc:creator>lee M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typo - Mayor Hylan died Jan. 12, 1936.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo &#8211; Mayor Hylan died Jan. 12, 1936.</p>
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		<title>By: lee M</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/18/who-did-they-think-they-were-kidding/#comment-1119897</link>
		<dc:creator>lee M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typo - Mayor Hylan died Jan 12, 1936., and I have egg on my face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo &#8211; Mayor Hylan died Jan 12, 1936., and I have egg on my face.</p>
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		<title>By: LD</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/18/who-did-they-think-they-were-kidding/#comment-1119676</link>
		<dc:creator>LD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like HUD nominee Donovan has done an excellent job. Thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like HUD nominee Donovan has done an excellent job. Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: LD</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/18/who-did-they-think-they-were-kidding/#comment-1119672</link>
		<dc:creator>LD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WhatNow.....we do try to do this every week at LD&#039;s Dollars and Sense &quot;Central Station&quot;. At that &quot;station&quot; (thread) I take questions from readers. 

In regard to your question, I would offer the following (it&#039;s a bit like answering a question with more questions)

I do not view an investment portfolio (401K, IRA, other investments) as an all or none proposition nor do I think others should as well. 

1. What is your time horizon (meaning how old are you) until you retire?

2. How secure do you feel in your job?

3. Are your investments causing you to lose sleep? If so, then you I would offer that you are taking too much risk.

4. Are your investments diversified? (that is, a mix of stocks, bonds, short term funds, some international exposure)

As you answer some of those questions, you may be able to better determine how to approach your 401K.

I would strongly encourage you to continue to fund your 401K if you are able. 

I would also strongly encourage you not to take the funds out and pay the penalty. 

A 401K /IRA is supposed to be by its very nature a longer term savings vehicle but it allows you to shift funds. My sense is that the equity markets will take time to recover. Thus, I think there is better value in a mix of higher quality corporate bonds.  

If you are looking for a little more yield you can invest in a divesified, high quality bond fund. You need to do some homework on the fund and see exactly what types of bonds are in the portfolio. 

I hope this helps. 

Thanks for writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WhatNow&#8230;..we do try to do this every week at LD&#8217;s Dollars and Sense &#8220;Central Station&#8221;. At that &#8220;station&#8221; (thread) I take questions from readers. </p>
<p>In regard to your question, I would offer the following (it&#8217;s a bit like answering a question with more questions)</p>
<p>I do not view an investment portfolio (401K, IRA, other investments) as an all or none proposition nor do I think others should as well. </p>
<p>1. What is your time horizon (meaning how old are you) until you retire?</p>
<p>2. How secure do you feel in your job?</p>
<p>3. Are your investments causing you to lose sleep? If so, then you I would offer that you are taking too much risk.</p>
<p>4. Are your investments diversified? (that is, a mix of stocks, bonds, short term funds, some international exposure)</p>
<p>As you answer some of those questions, you may be able to better determine how to approach your 401K.</p>
<p>I would strongly encourage you to continue to fund your 401K if you are able. </p>
<p>I would also strongly encourage you not to take the funds out and pay the penalty. </p>
<p>A 401K /IRA is supposed to be by its very nature a longer term savings vehicle but it allows you to shift funds. My sense is that the equity markets will take time to recover. Thus, I think there is better value in a mix of higher quality corporate bonds.  </p>
<p>If you are looking for a little more yield you can invest in a divesified, high quality bond fund. You need to do some homework on the fund and see exactly what types of bonds are in the portfolio. </p>
<p>I hope this helps. </p>
<p>Thanks for writing.</p>
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		<title>By: UKforDems</title>
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		<dc:creator>UKforDems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reality is that the US (and the UK) banking mess is still heavily understated. Lending was pushed on a massive scale, without the desposits to back them up.

The UK property market was so deregulated that properties in London were purchased by investors not homebuyers. Property price inflation was allowed to sky rocket and that infected banks worldwide. It also became an acceptable model world wide. The West had become addicted to hyper inflation. Better yet, rather than admit that teh economy was being built on hyper inflation, the UK and US removed property prices from their respective retail price indexes.

This meant the true rate of inflation was not being measured. Our employees were effectively having direct pay stolen but it did not matter - look how much your house is worth. All this did was generate more debt on the &quot;value&quot; of debt. Banks loaned money for people on modest salaries to buy giant SUVs that would not otherwise have been purchased by anyone other than Executives. 

This &quot;boosted&quot; the economy more. Until the banks woke up and realised what they have done. The economy has no foundation. None. That is what recapitalisation means. Providing a foundation to debts already leant out. How are Governments doing that? Borrowing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reality is that the US (and the UK) banking mess is still heavily understated. Lending was pushed on a massive scale, without the desposits to back them up.</p>
<p>The UK property market was so deregulated that properties in London were purchased by investors not homebuyers. Property price inflation was allowed to sky rocket and that infected banks worldwide. It also became an acceptable model world wide. The West had become addicted to hyper inflation. Better yet, rather than admit that teh economy was being built on hyper inflation, the UK and US removed property prices from their respective retail price indexes.</p>
<p>This meant the true rate of inflation was not being measured. Our employees were effectively having direct pay stolen but it did not matter &#8211; look how much your house is worth. All this did was generate more debt on the &#8220;value&#8221; of debt. Banks loaned money for people on modest salaries to buy giant SUVs that would not otherwise have been purchased by anyone other than Executives. </p>
<p>This &#8220;boosted&#8221; the economy more. Until the banks woke up and realised what they have done. The economy has no foundation. None. That is what recapitalisation means. Providing a foundation to debts already leant out. How are Governments doing that? Borrowing more.</p>
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		<title>By: WhatNow</title>
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		<dc:creator>WhatNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sentence should read:

do we keep them tied to the stock market and watch our money drain,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sentence should read:</p>
<p>do we keep them tied to the stock market and watch our money drain,</p>
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		<title>By: WhatNow</title>
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		<dc:creator>WhatNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, I enjoy reading your column.I haven&#039;t posted anything but it has been interesting reading your opinions about what&#039;s going on with the economic crisis. 

As a future column idea, would you have something like send in your questions and I&#039;ll try to address them in a column? 

My questions would be: Looking down the road a bit, How do we safe guard what&#039;s left in our 401k and IRA? Do we keep them tied to the uostock market and watch our money drain, do we transfer to government securities even though there is no interest paid, do we cash out, pay the penalties and keep it under our mattress?

Thanks for writing for NQ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, I enjoy reading your column.I haven&#8217;t posted anything but it has been interesting reading your opinions about what&#8217;s going on with the economic crisis. </p>
<p>As a future column idea, would you have something like send in your questions and I&#8217;ll try to address them in a column? </p>
<p>My questions would be: Looking down the road a bit, How do we safe guard what&#8217;s left in our 401k and IRA? Do we keep them tied to the uostock market and watch our money drain, do we transfer to government securities even though there is no interest paid, do we cash out, pay the penalties and keep it under our mattress?</p>
<p>Thanks for writing for NQ.</p>
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		<title>By: William L. Donlon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/18/who-did-they-think-they-were-kidding/#comment-1119515</link>
		<dc:creator>William L. Donlon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is much worse than you know!
Multiply by ten and you might get there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is much worse than you know!<br />
Multiply by ten and you might get there.</p>
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		<title>By: William L. Donlon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/18/who-did-they-think-they-were-kidding/#comment-1119513</link>
		<dc:creator>William L. Donlon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is far worse than you can ever know.
30% unemployment by Christmas 2009</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is far worse than you can ever know.<br />
30% unemployment by Christmas 2009</p>
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		<title>By: lark</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/18/who-did-they-think-they-were-kidding/#comment-1119480</link>
		<dc:creator>lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you see, I have a solution. Now I don&#039;t say that I will tell you what it is. But it is not that expensive and it will solve the problem the way that would satisfy the left, that is those in the socialist camp. And the right or the capitalistic crowd would then be free to pursue their greedy endeavors once again. I don&#039;t care about greedy fellows as long as greed is kept out of apartment complexes dealings - that is deals where new mortgage money is part of the whole thing. Oh yes, maybe new mortgage money okay but not more that 50 percent of equity or better yet of market value. But then such a minuscule part of the whole economy and we better concentrate on the big chunks. 

So. Who&#039;s Barack&#039;s HUD nominee and what should we expect from him? 

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/01/14/financial/f131304S19.DTL&amp;feed=rss.business</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you see, I have a solution. Now I don&#8217;t say that I will tell you what it is. But it is not that expensive and it will solve the problem the way that would satisfy the left, that is those in the socialist camp. And the right or the capitalistic crowd would then be free to pursue their greedy endeavors once again. I don&#8217;t care about greedy fellows as long as greed is kept out of apartment complexes dealings &#8211; that is deals where new mortgage money is part of the whole thing. Oh yes, maybe new mortgage money okay but not more that 50 percent of equity or better yet of market value. But then such a minuscule part of the whole economy and we better concentrate on the big chunks. </p>
<p>So. Who&#8217;s Barack&#8217;s HUD nominee and what should we expect from him? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/01/14/financial/f131304S19.DTL&amp;feed=rss.business" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/01/14/financial/f131304S19.DTL&amp;feed=rss.business</a></p>
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		<title>By: Winston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really want to see Obama tie his ass to a tree and walk 40 miles. If he can do that then he just might be JHC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really want to see Obama tie his ass to a tree and walk 40 miles. If he can do that then he just might be JHC.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A trillion here and a trillion there; after a while  it adds up to real money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A trillion here and a trillion there; after a while  it adds up to real money.</p>
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		<title>By: LD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your posts. Perfectly cryptically startlingly clear. Like the white snow. 

I think you are writing for &quot;everyman&quot;. I for one appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your posts. Perfectly cryptically startlingly clear. Like the white snow. </p>
<p>I think you are writing for &#8220;everyman&#8221;. I for one appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: lark</title>
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		<dc:creator>lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LD, did you understood my post? Then explain it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LD, did you understood my post? Then explain it.</p>
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		<title>By: Oisafraud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oisafraud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus first miracle was changing water into wine. Now that the Messiah is back, as his follow believe, I hope he doesn&#039;t change wine back to water. I really love wine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus first miracle was changing water into wine. Now that the Messiah is back, as his follow believe, I hope he doesn&#8217;t change wine back to water. I really love wine.</p>
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